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Speaker 1: How do I, twenty four male, get my dad fifty

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Speaker 1: my mom and to quit pressing a relationship. And there

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Speaker 1: are some juicy, juicy updates into that, so let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. So my mom passed when I was fourteen. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I was always closer with her than my dad, So

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Speaker 1: I took it very hard and still missed her every day.

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Speaker 1: My dad moved on extremely quickly. How quickly is too quickly?

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Speaker 2: We've said there was a rule we made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a rule. It's a month for every

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Speaker 1: year of marriage. Yeah, yeah, so you would, all right,

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Speaker 1: so in this marriage at least probably fourteen years if

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Speaker 1: they were married like a little bit before their child,

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Speaker 1: So fourteen months.

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Speaker 2: At least fourteen months at least, Like, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: Of April Hendrix says, within a year is fine, but

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Speaker 1: I'm talking one and a half months later. Bro man

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Speaker 1: moved quick.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't even wait for two rent bills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was openly dating his current wife. I

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Speaker 1: suspect he was cheating on my mom. She moved in

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Speaker 1: four months after my mom's death. Oh, then nine months

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Speaker 1: after her death, they announced their engagement on my birthday

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Speaker 1: as one of my gifts. You're joking. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: great gift. This poving someone else that we're in.

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Speaker 3: This poor fourteen year old kid is trying to grieve

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Speaker 3: and you go on their the one day he's like,

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Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, we're taking this this woman and

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Speaker 2: Now, aren't you happy?

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Speaker 1: Great? Yeah, I love that, love that not. So I

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Speaker 1: obviously didn't take that well, made a scene, dumped the kick,

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Speaker 1: kind of gift is saying we're married? I'm sorry, that's

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Speaker 1: that's like, that's like proposing at someone else's wedding. Literally,

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Speaker 2: This is so much worse. This. This is a child

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I like, I'm okay with that because like,

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Speaker 3: I'm giving the kid the past because I'm yeah best president.

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Speaker 1: Stop stop. So I disappeared for a few days until

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Speaker 1: they tried to get rid of all evidence of my mom, pictures,

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Speaker 3: Sam, I think we got to enter a red flag

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Speaker 3: red flag segment because what kind of you're You're coming

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Speaker 3: in to be a step mom, right, and you think

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Speaker 3: think that's good for this child, You're going to be

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Speaker 3: a good No red flag on you as a step mom,

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Speaker 3: red flag on you as a wife, all the red flags.

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Speaker 1: It's they're like trying to just brush the past under

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Speaker 3: A green flag would have been, hey, you know we

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Speaker 1: But they did not take their time. They announced it

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Speaker 1: to force me to call her dad's wife mom. I

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Speaker 1: never did. They would ignore me when I called her

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Speaker 1: This is so bad? Yeah? Jesse C says this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: saying they were having an affair. Yeah, I think so

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Speaker 1: Heather Marquees says, red a flag for the dad. Janelle

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Speaker 1: I turned eighteen and left for UNI and went extremely

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Speaker 1: Cheating. Yeah, they didn't know I was seeing anyone. My

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Speaker 1: not and never was her son, and she won't be

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Speaker 2: Talk your taco bee.

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Speaker 1: That's a public blast. That's a public blast for sure.

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Speaker 1: Also like, I feel the if if this step mom

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Speaker 1: it is not to force. It has to naturally happened.

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Speaker 3: Like you can't make someone call you mommy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't take any of this. I'm going low no contact. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to know what y'all would do. Would you

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Speaker 1: I mean, I let my dad in, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I honestly, I feel like I would probably let them in.

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Speaker 3: But I also haven't lived through this experience experience.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I don't really like blame op

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, kiss this door. Baby. They wanted

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Speaker 1: I called them delusional and told them to leave and

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Speaker 3: Gatlin and I saw also someone else come at this

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Speaker 1: You understand, Yeah, you understand exactly what you did wrong

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Speaker 1: If I feel like giving them a chance, it is

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Speaker 1: we don't exist. If they break this, they will get

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Speaker 1: a follow up letter up to and including a protection order.

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Speaker 1: The opie's going really part of the paint, yes, but

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Speaker 2: And why why keep why why?

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that dad isn't enforcing what op he wants,

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Speaker 3: It seems like from the jump, because he remembered very early,

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Speaker 1: controlled yes by the wife, yes, completely controlled. Yeah, not

437
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: a good look not a good look. The letter was

438
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: quite long. Our lawyer looked it over and my wife

439
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: and I signed it. Then he signed it as well

440
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: as it is being notarized, and then we made legal

441
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 1: copies for all our records. My lawyer went with a

442
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: private delivery service and hand delivered it to him with

443
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: a signature of received goods plus video evidence as well.

444
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: So far, so good on that end. I'm now focused

445
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: on my wife and soon to be child. I hope

446
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I know how not to be a father.

447
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: So there is that. They for all of your input.

448
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: Is there anything else I should do or think of

449
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: to protect the family. I would love to know from

450
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: you guys what you think. But there is a thick update,

451
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: thick update, so there there's more. But what do you

452
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: think Opie should do? Stella Davis says the dad death

453
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: didn't deserve Opie's mom agreed one hundred Yeah, not like

454
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean the dad, the dad like has no spine,

455
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: no to not to just like completely bend over to

456
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: what his his like new wife wants. Yeah, it's kind

457
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: of whack.

458
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: It's kind of very very bad, like he should from

459
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: especially from fourteen, right after the mom passed away like

460
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: that's that's the most sad.

461
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally giving no like like giving no time for

462
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: OP to really create, you know. Uh, but we'll worry

463
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of comments before we get into this thick,

464
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: juicy update. Also, to everyone here, thank you for coming

465
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: to a live. We're just kind of getting used to this.

466
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: This whole live will be Once it's done, it will

467
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: go for members only, so if you want to support

468
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: the channel, go subscribe to our members only so you

469
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: can get access to all our lives after it's done.

470
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: These episodes also will come out on the regular feed,

471
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: but if you want like the unedited live versions, please

472
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: support our members only channel. It really helps with just

473
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: making the show better and better. The Raven says, John,

474
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: your hair is so luscious and pretty today. It's the conditioner. Yeah, Janelle,

475
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: it's on. It's on YouTube if.

476
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: You guys want to see YouTube.

477
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: Stella Davis says, apart from everyone changing names and making

478
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: step Monster think they move with an elaborate ruse, I

479
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: can't think of anything. Uh yeah, yeah, I mean getting say.

480
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: Mara Garcia says, like getting cameras, I feel like extra security.

481
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: Which it sounds like Op's on and they're like they're

482
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: working on that, right. Yeah, several cameras several weeks for

483
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: the new camera setup.

484
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's probably a good move.

485
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: But shall we get into the final updates? We'll do it.

486
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: In the weeks leading up to my wife giving birth,

487
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: things were stressful. I ended up having my first panic attack.

488
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: That was not fun. My wife helped me through that.

489
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: One brother in law try to apologize and get back

490
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: with my sister in law, but effed up that by

491
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: trying to explain himself again on how he was in

492
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: the right by reconnecting my parents and my family. After that,

493
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: their divorce has been moving quickly.

494
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: There we go.

495
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: I love this little side story that could be a

496
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: whole Reddit story and it's truly Yeah, I want that one.

497
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, that would be great. So my

498
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: wife giving birth was an amazing experience for me. The

499
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: moment I held my child for the first time amaze me.

500
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: How can I love something so tiny and who I

501
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: just met so much so quickly? Both baby and my

502
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: wife are doing really well. My wife started saying she

503
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: feels like a cow. I'm not sure how to make

504
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: her stop, but she keeps randomly moving at me, that's

505
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: actually really cute.

506
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: You know, they have a good sense of humor in

507
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: a good vibe again, Yeah, that's oi.

508
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: My dad and his wife. Oh, my dad and his

509
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: wife tried to show up at the hospital. Yikes, gosh.

510
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Still not sure how they found us or knew where

511
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: we were, but staff blocked them and covered for us.

512
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: Like a bunch of you said. We would start running

513
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: into them randomly around town, mainly grocery shopping stores. Even

514
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: if I drove out of my way. We would sometimes

515
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: bump into one or both of them. I have an

516
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: okay story time about bumping into people that you maybe

517
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: don't want contact with all the time. Okay, we would

518
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: sometimes bump into one or both of them. Law enforcement

519
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: still says they are not doing anything against the law

520
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: and don't seem dangerous, slush malicious. We did our best

521
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: to ignore them or stay home or have a family

522
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: member get the items. My therapist has sure earned her

523
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: paycheck the last few months. Lawyer is trying their best,

524
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: but they the laws I feel are against us. Innocent

525
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: until proven guilty or in this case, nothing is dangerous

526
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: until after it is, or hurry up and wait until

527
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: something bad happens. And then we might do something. It's

528
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: super frustrating. Also, we moved now I never want to

529
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: do that again. Good family helps, but with a newborn

530
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: and crazy people around, it was stressful. I know it

531
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: doesn't sound possible, and I'm still in disbelief, but my

532
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: in laws are amazing and got us in contact with

533
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: a friend of theirs. Long story short, these friends wanted

534
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: to downside since all of their kids moved out, told

535
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the in laws and brought them over. We ended up

536
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: coming up with a really good deal. Our new home

537
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: is bigger on more Land, but needs a lot of work.

538
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: Still baby friendly though it is as old and outdated,

539
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: but we have been making it ours. We were not

540
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: rich by any stretch of the imagination. We have a

541
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: good network around us. I'm still doing ninety nine percent

542
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: of the work to the house of myself. Sister in

543
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: law moved in to help make it possible. Since moving,

544
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: we have not seen my dad or his wife. Wow,

545
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: that was until that was until that was until that

546
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: wasn't two weeks ago? Okay. I was going to update

547
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: and did write all of the above. Then, since my

548
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: lawyer contacted me saying my dad reached out and wanted

549
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: to talk. I tried to say hard pass, but they

550
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: advised me by saying, I think it would be in

551
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: your best interest. We set up a date in a

552
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: time in public. Okay, so we're meeting with the dad

553
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: one on one, which is what some of you guys

554
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: said that uh OP should do in the first place. Yeah,

555
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: meet one on one. Three days later at a coffee shop.

556
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: We met up. Even though we were early. They were

557
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: waiting for us. It was just my wife and I

558
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: also paralegal from my lawyer's office undercover. I could see

559
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: the disappointment in their eyes that our child did not

560
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: come with us because they wanted to see the kids.

561
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: What do you expect?

562
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: It started awkward at first. They started some small bs talk,

563
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: but I just said, what do you want? Yep, Well,

564
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: my dad's health is not well and is going downhill steadily,

565
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: may have twoish years at most. They showed scans, doctor's notes, tests,

566
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: and other items to prove it. Okay, well yeah, really

567
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: quick pause break down here. Does would this change anything

568
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: for you? So if if like you were going no

569
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: contact with family, they wronged you in some way. But

570
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: your dad is saying, like, basically, I'm on my deathbed

571
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: does this change anything.

572
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: I think you still.

573
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: I think you still say like I will give you

574
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: a chance now, But that doesn't mean that you can

575
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: continue to do what you've done in the past. The

576
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: second you continue to start doing that, especially with you know,

577
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: the new the new child, like you have to recognize

578
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: maybe use that as the maybe not an ultimate him,

579
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: but like recognize what I've been telling you this whole time,

580
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: that you didn't let me grieve and that you brought

581
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: in this new mom and that that was all wrong.

582
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And also maybe maybe it's just separating them,

583
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: like in terms of like, hey, I want a relationship

584
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: with you, dad, I don't want a relationship with her.

585
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: That's a great point, and so I'm I'm happy to

586
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: have you visit, but I do not want her. I

587
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: don't want a relationship with her. She's not my mom.

588
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I've never had a relationship with her. She's always forced

589
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: this like title of motherhood on me that I never wanted,

590
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: and she's tried to systematically erase my real mom, the

591
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: mom that passed away when I was fourteen.

592
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: I can't do it.

593
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I want to what you guys think. We'll read some

594
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: of the comments, so Jem says, have the dad explain

595
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: how it happened so fast? Yeah? Yeah, clean, that's what happened.

596
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Janelle says, if he keeps step monster in law away

597
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: from him and his family only, yeah, that's a I

598
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: think that's a really good stipulation. Heather Marquet says, I

599
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: want to say no, but I know I would try

600
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to make something work. I mean, which does I mean

601
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: if your dad's dying like I feel, I feel like

602
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: emotions but totally total. But Pinky de Slayer says, they

603
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: still can't see my child. All come see them, but

604
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: not my child. Mindy Wilder says, I don't know. The

605
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: dad picked the step mom over his son time and

606
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: time again, so I might not. So yeah, I mean

607
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think you can try to

608
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: have it on your terms, but ultimately it's up to

609
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: the dad to say what he wants. But let's get

610
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: big protein.

611
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: Me looking good? Oh yeah, we're looking good, beautiful. I

612
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: just had a conspiracy theory.

613
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: What's your conspiracy theory? Really?

614
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: Okay? So have you guys ever seen community?

615
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

616
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, sure, crap. What's the old guy's name,

617
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: Chevy Chase Pierce.

618
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, pierers he would fake a heart attack? Do you

619
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: think he like photoshop figured out how to photoshop all

620
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: this stuff?

621
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: And it's like, so you think that dad is faking? Yeah,

622
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: that thought definitely crossed my mind. Yeah, thinking it all

623
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: all right, Well, let's see that's that's a good, good

624
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory.

625
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: Back to reality.

626
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Back to reality. Baby. I was quiet the entire time

627
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: they talked, and all I could think about is that

628
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: sucks for him. It was like getting news that someoney

629
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you knew of when you were a child died or

630
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: a sick like a neighbor, an old babysitter. For me,

631
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: no real emotion or feelings because I feel like I

632
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a real connection with them. My wife knew

633
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: I was irritated and tried to silently haul me down.

634
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: When they were done, I said something to the effect

635
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry this happened to you. I hope you get better.

636
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Then I got up and walked out. There's more. There's more.

637
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: What do you think of op two stone cold? Put

638
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: put two stone cold? Or he got what he deserved?

639
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: In the comments? Put one of those two stone cold?

640
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Or got what he deserved? What do you think two

641
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: stone cold?

642
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: For me like cold for you, I don't know if

643
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: I would be able to.

644
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: To do that.

645
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: But now, mind you, just a few minutes ago, I

646
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: was like you, I think there would have to be

647
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: all these stipulations to even let and if the dad

648
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: didn't go with them, then don't bring him back in

649
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: the life.

650
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: But I don't think I would go that hard.

651
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think I would go that hard either.

652
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: But we also haven't like experienced the whatever, like the

653
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: ten years of like systemic familial issues of OP trying

654
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Speaker 1: probably and just I mean there's obviously there's a lot

655
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Speaker 1: of pain that is built up over these years, and

656
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Speaker 1: possibly too much pain to even try to bridge a

657
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Speaker 1: relationship even at this point, even on his deathbed.

658
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Speaker 2: Not to super psychoanalyze.

659
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Speaker 3: And everyone take this with a grain of salt, but

660
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Speaker 3: you know how they say, like, oh, when something traumatic happens,

661
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Speaker 3: you stay with that problem.

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Speaker 2: At the age that had happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like what if he's there's still like kind of

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Speaker 3: fourteen year old angst, probably you.

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Speaker 1: Know, probably is, Yeah, I mean I can I can

666
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Speaker 1: see there being Linda Callin says, my sub conscious would

667
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Speaker 1: have not coped. Dennis Brendberg Bros. Says deserved. Mindy Wilder

668
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: says fifty fifty. I want to know why you're fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty on it. Scarlett Wood says he'll probably regret

670
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Speaker 1: it no matter what he does. I mean, yeah, would

671
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: ope regret it if his father did actually pass away? Maybe? Yeah,

672
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Speaker 1: I think I think generally, I mean, like, I think

673
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: it's generally a pretty well known thing that holding a

674
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Speaker 1: grudge is usually regrettable, even if it's against people that

675
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: wrong you.

676
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: It's like you forgive for yourself, not even for.

677
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: The yeah, yeah, not not for yeah, not for him,

678
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: but holding that holding that is is hurtful to you. Yes,

679
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: But you know, also so is this person, right, Like

680
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: the sad is actively hurtful for you. So maybe the

681
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: maybe holding on to the memory of it is less

682
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Speaker 1: painful than dealing it with it in the present.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how they are responding now, if they're still

684
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Speaker 3: like call me mom, call.

685
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Speaker 1: Me yeah, yeah, Are they still and if they're still

686
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Speaker 1: doing that, I I don't think there's any hope of relation. No, hope.

687
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you guys think? Do you think? Ope?

688
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: He should try to make any kinds of meds Ashley

689
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Purkis says, forgive but never forget. I think that, but

690
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: what does that look like? What does that look like?

691
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: What does that really What does forgiving and never forgetting

692
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: look like in the context of a relationship with this father?

693
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Speaker 1: But I would love to know your answers. Put your

694
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Speaker 1: answers in the comments. But we're going to keep going.

695
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Speaker 1: His wife opened her mouth and said something like, that's it,

696
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Speaker 1: that's all you have to say. Do you owe it

697
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: to him? I didn't let her finish and went off

698
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: on them. I said everything that I had been saying

699
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: in my head for years, a practice monologue I started

700
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: when I was a teen. Highlights include, but are not

701
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: limited to, how he owed me more than anything, how

702
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: he ruined any type of relationship, the moment he started

703
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: thinking with his dick, when he tried to erase my

704
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: real and only mom, neglect, abuse over punishment, the works.

705
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: Then I finished with my real mother died when I

706
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: was fourteen. Pretend I did as well, because that is

707
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Speaker 1: when he my dad became dead to me.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, hope he was ready.

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Speaker 1: That was the monologue. That was the rehearsed speech. I'm like,

710
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting like shifty, same, what a gooseber goosebumps. What

711
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: a monologue. Wow. Now, looking back, I find it in

712
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: a way funny that my five foot four wife was

713
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: holding back a six foot two hundred plus guy. But

714
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: they kind of looked like fish opening and closing their mouth.

715
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: My wife then escorted me away. When we got in

716
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: the car, I had my second panic attack. But since

717
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: things have been quiet but still fresh. I'm struggling but

718
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: working through it well. My wife notices me zoning, she

719
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: hands me our child, and things get better. Oh love that.

720
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Speaker 1: Sorry for the long read. If you are still here,

721
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: I hope you have a wonderful day and may your

722
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: life be blessed. Wow? What wow? Wow? How do we

723
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: feel about how it ended? How do we feel about

724
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: like Opie saying everything that he wanted to say all

725
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Speaker 1: these years? How do you feel about that?

726
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it is. I think it is ultimately good.

727
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if they ever truly faced like

728
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: got the repercussion, got the the justice for the crime committed.

729
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they Maybe they did.

730
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: In terms of OPI like cutting them out, but I do.

731
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Speaker 3: Think it is good for them to hear it in

732
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: its purest, most raw and unfiltered way. Which wait, maybe

733
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: OPI probably already said this in the letter too. We

734
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what was said there, but I again,

735
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I would have.

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00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have done that. Yeah, I just can't like.

737
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: But it's also hard for me to even imagine, because,

738
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: like I like, I love my parents, love my dad,

739
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to imagine someone caught like

740
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: my parent causing that much hurt to where I'm ready

741
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: to do this. But obviously Okie has felt that. I'm

742
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: glad they heard it for oh, the best thing for

743
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: OP to do.

744
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough time to share that, but yeah, like,

745
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: I'm glad they heard it, but maybe not at that time,

746
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: I guess.

747
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

748
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: And Angelica Gatlan says he needed to say it cathartic.

749
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Britney Welty says Op he needed that he held onto

750
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: those feelings for so long. Mel Adjusted forty six says, well,

751
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: I don't think the dad and stepmom are going to

752
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: reach out again. I don't know, they haven't gotten a hit. Yeah,

753
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: it's been very persistent.

754
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna start breaking in now.

755
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I like, I don't know, show me

756
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: the baby, Yeah, dude, I mean it's that they it's

757
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't hopefully they take the hint. Now, Okay, story time,

758
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: So about like moving into so we were like in

759
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: the in the this last story. Basically what happened is

760
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the parents moved into Ope's neighborhood and they would like

761
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: run into each other like at random times. So my

762
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend moved seven blocks away from me, and I

763
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: run into her all the time, like like multiple times

764
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: a month, sometimes multiple times a week, and it definitely

765
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: is definitely doesn't help the healing of a breakup. Yeah,

766
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I can understand Opie, uh not wanting

767
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: the parents to be in the same city. Yeah, yeah,

768
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: because it's just like when you live in a small area,

769
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: like you run into each other that is the grocery store,

770
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: and I like, I have a run that I run

771
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, and like she that she also runs

772
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: that run sometimes.

773
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: So much in common, including the what's your what's your

774
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: philosophy on like how to engage for like or if

775
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: someone's in a similar situation.

776
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: I just say so, like I mean, I think, like

777
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: I just tried, I'm like friendly but but but I'm friendly,

778
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: but I'm like not short, but I'm friendly, but I'm

779
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: like moving quickly, so I'll just say like, hey, how's

780
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: it going. Nice to see you, and then I'm like

781
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: blip on over. So it's not like a it's not

782
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: like a stop stop and like really dive in. But

783
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: you know what y'all can do if you haven't already,

784
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,840
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786
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Speaker 1: forever and ever. And also just tell us what you want.

787
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,840
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788
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: We read like a lot of them, so we really

789
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: appreciate everyone coming into live day. Just remember, if you

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00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: love us, make sure to subscribe. We love you. I'd

791
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: see it worrow. This is an episode from Deep Within

792
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Speaker 1: the Archives.

793
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: Time for Okop rewam.

794
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Today up by thinking of my family actually loved me,

795
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: but they had something else in mind.

796
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to give a good old fashioned I

797
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: don't love you. Yeah, yeah, you're not family to me.

798
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what I say, like every time to

799
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: my sister.

800
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna when I put my kids to bed at night.

801
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm gonna say.

802
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, just remember you're nothing you're not going.

803
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: This is how we build character Andrew Tape.

804
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Yesterday I turned eighteen years old, and for the past

805
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: six years, like clockwork, every day on my birthday, we

806
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: go to the same place for dinner, and I'd always

807
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: get the same thing. For those of you that confused,

808
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: I have extreme OCD and high functioning autism, which means

809
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I very which means I'm very well regulated, and like

810
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: things to stay the same as they've always been. Every

811
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: year on my birthday, would go to Apple Peace, amazing

812
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: birthday place I've never been. Actually, really, we'll take you sometimes.

813
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: The first thing I would get is the steak in

814
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: trimp parmesan with a side of loaded mashed potatoes that

815
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: actually sounds good does and cheesy steam broccoli. Hate me

816
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: or not, Hate me or not, but I also get

817
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: a sad amounts of rellisticks. In total, it's thirty bucks,

818
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: a bit expensive. I know. I couldn't really tell something

819
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: was off until a bit later, because when me and

820
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: my mother, my stepfather, and my older brother sat down,

821
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: they didn't really say anything. I was confused, and so

822
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: I started tapping my fingers and the conversation went a

823
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: little like this, Mother, Well, I was rather confused. Well, mother,

824
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: aren't you going to call the waiter over? This gave

825
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: me extreme anxiety. I have extreme issues with speaking with people,

826
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: and I tend to stutter and get very scared, if

827
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: that's the right word. I asked her if she could

828
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: do it, and she does it in a huff. My

829
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: dad and brother staring are My dad and brother stare

830
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: nonchalantly as she calls a waiter over. The alarm bells

831
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: are ringing in my head. This is never how we

832
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: did before. I can't. As a waiter gets to the table,

833
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: he asks everyone what they want, and everyone orders, and

834
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: he gets to me. My mother stops him and tells

835
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: him separate bill. Damn. This is when my heart began

836
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: beating very fast. I don't have a job. All the

837
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: money I get is from all the money I get,

838
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: it's from our neighbors raking leaves. You're gonna make him

839
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: use his leaf money? Why leaving him high and dry

840
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: much like those leaves? Baby goodness, I just kind of freeze.

841
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say the leaf money. I

842
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: don't really say anything, and I get a really bad

843
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: stomach ache from the anxiety. This is where I'm conflicted

844
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: on whether I'm the asshole or not. My mother would

845
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: explain at the table that now that I'm eighteen, I

846
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: should be able to pay for my own things, but

847
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: they all I have is leaf money. I was already

848
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: feeling nauseous for the situation, so I just said, I

849
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: love Anybney. My mom kind of puffs and shoes the

850
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: waiter away, poor waiter, he's bro It's awkward. This sour

851
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: at the dinner party. However, my mom also paid for

852
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: my twenty three year old brother.

853
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: Where's the logic?

854
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: My family was calling me entitled and a little a

855
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: hole the whole ride home. When I got home, I

856
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: just ran to my room and cried. They'd been ignoring

857
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: me all day. I may be bad at social cues,

858
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: but my family has never acted this way before. Applebee's

859
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: was my sanctuary. I mean never. They've been treating me

860
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: horrible the whole day. I feel very angry and upset

861
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: at my family. If I would have been warned, I

862
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: would have saved my breaking money, the leaf money, the

863
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: leaf money. I also don't mean this to be a

864
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: validation post. I have all the information you have. I'm

865
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: just very confused, and I'm terrible with social cues, Aspergers,

866
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: Am I right, my family gets a little tighten of money.

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Speaker 1: I guess I should have really asked them before I

868
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Speaker 1: assumed they were gonna pay for me. No, but I

869
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Speaker 1: missed out on my birthday dinner because I wasn't mature

870
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Speaker 1: enough to bring my own money. Wait. Wait, so did

871
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Speaker 1: he just not eat the whole time? I think so,

872
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm just gonna rake leaves for a

873
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Speaker 1: couple more weeks to order it from takeout. Oh, this

874
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Speaker 1: is so sad. Bro Bro doesn't get any food on

875
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Speaker 1: his birthday and now he's saving up his leaf money

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Speaker 1: to get takeout, And.

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Speaker 3: Like that's already, Like it's so sad already. But like

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's like, oh, here's why, am I

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Speaker 3: being a whole?

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Speaker 2: You are?

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Speaker 3: Literally this is like the hardest not the a whole

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Speaker 3: of all time, Like you were the furthest thing from

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Speaker 3: a hole in existence that is living and breathing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the edit is I underst saying that my

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Speaker 1: parents could be terrible. But I might be missing some

886
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Speaker 1: social cues. I don't know if there's anything I did wrong.

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Speaker 1: I've cried about I've cried about it and tried to

888
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Speaker 1: speak with them, but they don't want to talk to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I did. Also, thank you for

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Speaker 1: everyone for the birthday wishes. I wish my parents did

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Speaker 1: that to me. Jeez, sad Man Hey, Happy birthday, Op Yes,

892
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Speaker 1: happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: Good gosh,