1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Every day waiting pick your ass up the breakfast Club. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm finished for y'all. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Dune. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the world's more dangerous morning show. Charlamagne the 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: God just hilarious. Envy is out today. But now that 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Simone is here, and we got a brother who's got 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: a project coming out on August twenty ninth, call Lonely 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: at the top. The good brother Joey Badass is here. Man. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: What to through? 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Man? Good morning and blessed black and Holly fair? But 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: how you feel good? 12 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: Man? Good? 13 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: First of all, how is fatherhood? 14 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: Fatherhood is amazing? 15 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Amazing? Congratulations father too? 16 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: Now, thank you, thank you, appreciate that, loving it and 17 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: basking in it. 18 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. At the stage, ain't getting 19 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: much sleep, yeah right now, but you know it's going great. 20 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 3: Is a couple of months now something right? 21 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. 22 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: How they changed you as a man? 23 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: I mean I won't say it changed me as a man. 24 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: I say it's refined, you know what I mean, just uh, 25 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: you know, maturity. It's like I ain't got the bear 26 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: with you know what I'm saying, for like the bullshit 27 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: no more. It's like when I had my first child, 28 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: the biggest revelation I had. 29 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: Was like, oh shit, I only got one kid, you 30 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 31 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: It's like I've been taking cares so many people and 32 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 4: like putting so much energy into that and you realize 33 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: that you have like one child, like one person that 34 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: you're actually solely responsible for, and you know, having my 35 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 4: son now is like, you know, it's no difference, It's 36 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: just it kind of gives you that extra boost of. 37 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: Like, yo, listen, let's get to it. Let's get it done. 38 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: Like when we leave in the house, we on the mission, 39 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: and the mission is to complete it and you know, 40 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: get back home. 41 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 42 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: Real, you got the best of both for us now 43 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: because you got your. 44 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Girl and your boy now absolutely absolutely. 45 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: Said you've matured. Is there like a major difference from 46 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 5: your first time having a child when you were younger 47 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 5: versus now? 48 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I say the biggest difference was, you know, 49 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: I don't I'm at a different readiness and preparedness level now, 50 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, 51 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: with this one, and then also kind of having the 52 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: experience and the dad now right, it's like like playing 53 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: words data, you know what I'm saying, Like and having 54 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: that to apply. So everything that I've learned from my 55 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: first experience being able to take that and it kind 56 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: of catapulted me into this one like where it's just 57 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: like ah, yeah, yeah, like you know what I mean, 58 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: everything is uh pretty much is like going navigating the 59 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: street and knowing where the bumps is at, you know 60 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 61 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 2: Like it's it's kind of like that. 62 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: You know, I was listening to Dark Or they sent 63 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: me Lonely at the Top last night. They just sent 64 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: me snippets, but I listen to the whole Doark orders one. 65 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was purposely done because I know you guys 66 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 4: have a system and y'all like to listen to the 67 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: music before. But I also like to reserve some of 68 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: it because I want you guys to you know, actually 69 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: be in tune, you know, whant to drop. 70 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: So but you say on Dark Or, you say independent mindset, 71 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: you ain't fucking with the majes. So when I think 72 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: about everything that's going on with your label right now 73 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: and them delaying the album, does it make you wish 74 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: you was Indy? 75 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: Well, what I'll say is, you know, we had our complications, 76 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: and you know, I think what had what had disappointed 77 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: me or angered me. The most is that I'm very 78 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: passionate about my relationship with my fans, and you know, 79 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: when I say things, I want them to know that 80 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: my word is bond. So I hate that I was 81 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: put in a position where I communicated a date and 82 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: then I had to change that, you know what I'm saying, 83 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: because I worked so hard on that relationship with my 84 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: fans because you know, historically it hasn't I haven't always 85 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: been the best at that, and that's you know, me 86 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: taking accountability and me wanting to improve and be better, 87 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But you know, so yeah, 88 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: we had our little whatever, but we're on common ground now, 89 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know, I feel 90 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: fully supported in everything. In August twenty nine. 91 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Do you really feel fully supported? 92 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: You know, we got to drive into this thing, you see, 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to just be political, right, just get past. 94 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Get to it. 95 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: Like damn, I thought the Juice would take the ABO. 96 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: What's the point of a label? Even the land album. 97 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: But it's not like they're gonna work the records at 98 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: radio the way that they It's not like they're gonna 99 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: put the building behind you. With the promo and marketing 100 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: the way that they should. So what's the point of 101 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: the land album? 102 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: Charlie Man, you got some some intense feelings today. 103 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 6: Some juicy like that they give you a reason that 104 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 6: they say, Hey, So the reason was that they felt 105 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 6: as if, like you know, they wanted to. 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 4: Put more into it, and you know, like I had 107 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: my my uh uh my complications with that, if you will. 108 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, I'm like, Okay, 109 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: you know, that's not a bad thing. I just think 110 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: that the way that it happened, you know what I'm saying, 111 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: Like telling me the week before my fans think that 112 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: the project is coming is just like not productive, you 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's kind of productive to the 114 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: whole situation. So, like, you know, I could say that 115 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: their intentions were good, but the execution of it wasn't 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 4: the best, you know what I'm saying. But like I said, 117 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: like you know all as well now and you know, 118 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: everybody's on comic ground and we got a date, so 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: it was twenty ninth. At the end of the day, 120 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: I just want to put this music out and that's 121 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: what I'm looking for. 122 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: Because I was having a debate about you in a 123 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: group chat, you know, the hip hop group Chest. Oh yeah, 124 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: And so I was saying, like, like Joey, like I 125 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: looked at the project. 126 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: I've been in the group chats a lot this. 127 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Year, but great reason. 128 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: It's like like the fifth person I heard saying, y'all 129 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: talked about you in the group. 130 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: Chat and everybody had one, uh one common thing in 131 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: regard to Joy bad Ass the music. They always say, 132 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: he just need a record. M Is that something you change. 133 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: I won't say that I chase that, but I won't 134 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: say that it's something that I'm not cognizant, you know 135 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: what I mean. I definitely have an awareness of that. 136 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: And yeah, only at the top August tenty. Never see 137 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: what happens, you. 138 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, Because is that implying that it's 139 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 5: on this tape. 140 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: We'll see, you know what I mean, We'll see, Like No, 141 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: I I think that there's a record on there, you know, 142 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: maybe two records on there. I think that's a great record, 143 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I think that's definitely poised 144 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: for that type of position. But there's another one I'm 145 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: specifically thinking about. 146 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: But the super I got, like the it. 147 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to reserve, you know what I mean. 148 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: I want people to because you know it and it's 149 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: funny and I'm glad we having this conversation because i 150 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: feel like in twenty twenty five, like I'm at a point, 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: I'm at a point where my artistry where it's like 152 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: I really don't want to give samples out. I really 153 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: don't want to drop no songs ahead of it. I 154 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: really want you to experience the body of work like 155 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: I intended it to, and I wanted it to be 156 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: fully new when when people hear it, you know what 157 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I don't want to. I don't I 158 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: don't want to give away too much. I have too 159 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: much expectations, like I really enjoy creating bodies of work 160 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 4: and sharing that, you know what I'm saying. 161 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: So, but yeah, you know you still got to promote 162 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: your project. 163 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: Is like how do you promote the project without like 164 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: putting singles out and you know, ship like that. 165 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: But this is one cliff hanging in. 166 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 7: This nigga man like he want a cliff with his 167 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 7: music and an acting because yeah. 168 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm a cliff hanging in. 169 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you are. 170 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 7: You will leave somebody on a cliff and not know 171 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 7: what's going on, because even in the films, even with 172 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 7: the shows like we you know, if unique that or not. 173 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: You gotta create some suspense, you know what I mean, 174 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: some suspense and anticipation. 175 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you feel something. 176 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 5: Hell anticipation this year, especially starting off the year. What 177 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 5: was it the first week of January? 178 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: First day, first day, first. 179 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 5: Day, you're first attacking the or you know, claiming your 180 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: title in New York. But then also you know, coming 181 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: from the West Coast, what what struck that? 182 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: So first of all, it's like, you know, my intention 183 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: was never to come for the West Coast, you know 184 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think that like with Ruler's back, 185 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: my energy was more connected to like it was really 186 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: in the spirit of like, yo, y'all having y'all moment, 187 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: but New York got something to say too type of thing, 188 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And it's like, yeah, you know, 189 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: people had their complications. 190 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: With that, like, oh y'all had y'all moment. We ain't 191 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: say nothing. 192 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: This aid a third But I'm like, yeah, it was 193 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, and it's playful. 194 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: It was. 195 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: It was a playful nature for. 196 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: Me, you know what I'm saying, Like this rap shit 197 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: is a sport, and I have so many allies on 198 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: the West. Like from my perspective, if you really seen it, 199 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: it's like I didn't mean no disrespect. That wasn't my 200 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: intention or whatever. But I'm like, yo, we rapping, you 201 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So when people felt like I 202 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: was attacking, I had to respect it because I think 203 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: that my perspective would have kind of been the same 204 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 4: if the shoe was on the other foot, like yo, 205 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, and I think that 206 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: a lot of people took the opportunity and. 207 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: A lot of good things came from that. 208 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah like rap I mean that's honestly, that's how 209 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: the compensation started in the group chat because I said, 210 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: I said, Joey Bad that's the nicest like new dudes 211 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: from New York, right, you know, even though you've been 212 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: out for a while. But it's like he's he's that 213 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: guy right now, Like that's what I was asking the 214 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: group chat, and so everybody sent the emoji's back like 215 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: let me think about that. But if not you who That's. 216 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 7: How I feel that somebody was to respond back from 217 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 7: like the West coast, right, if one of the raps 218 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 7: was to like, all right, go back at you where 219 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 7: you prepared for it to be. 220 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: People people did respond. Yeah, a bunch of people respond. 221 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: It was like fifty niggas. 222 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: We definitely got to get into that. 223 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 5: But I want to get into this line on rulers 224 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 5: back where you were like women lie, but Joey don't lie. 225 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: Might delete later. I know damn sure that Joey won't. 226 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: That's sorry, not sorry, oh sorry, Yeah. 227 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 5: But with that line, I you know, the play on 228 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 5: words with my delete later and you know that being 229 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 5: close project. 230 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: How do you feel about the Big Three now? 231 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: I mean, what do you mean? 232 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: Do you still feel like there is a Big three? 233 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 5: Did the Big Three change? Do you feel like it's 234 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: like not a thing anymore? 235 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: Nah? I want to say that it changed. 236 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: I mean I say that, you know, over the last 237 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: ten years when we talk about rap, like, yeah, I 238 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: think that those figures are the prominent figures. 239 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying in the space. 240 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: I think, you know, a lot of interesting things has 241 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: happened in the last year. 242 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, to say the least. 243 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But yeah, I mean I 244 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: don't feel no particular way about it, you know what 245 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 246 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I love it. I love it all. 247 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: As a New York artists, you feel the way and 248 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: the reason because when you're talking about Big Three and 249 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: no MC from New York is mentioned. 250 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, bro listen. I think I think the 251 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: Big Three, though, was more of like a how do 252 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: I say it? 253 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: Like? I think it's more of a like it's like 254 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: a class. 255 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: I feel like that, like like when we talk about 256 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: the Big Three, we're talking about that class, and I 257 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: think that there's a new era that's, like, you know, 258 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: kind of right behind that, where we might be talking 259 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: about a different three individuals in like the next five years. 260 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 5: But you don't consider yourself in that class. 261 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: I mean, see the thing is I kind of do, 262 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: but I'm so much younger than anybody else. Anybody else 263 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: in that class got me about like eight to ten years. 264 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 5: That was gonna be my question for you, because I 265 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 5: feel like the game that you play versus the game 266 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 5: that they play is different. Like I think you brought 267 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: to my attention that Big Daddy, Kane and jay Z 268 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: are the same age. 269 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: And then it's like, well, y'all. 270 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, close to it at the same age. 271 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: But there are different classes. So I feel like it's 272 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 5: the same thing for you where it's like you're in 273 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: the same classes then, but you your game is just 274 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 5: a little different. 275 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow shit the more you know. 276 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you know, I feel I feel similar 277 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: to that, and I think that me being younger has 278 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: kind of allowed for different things for me, you know 279 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, I think everybody's path is different, 280 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: and there's not much that I would really change about 281 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: my path. I'm just getting better, you know what I'm 282 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: saying as I go on, And yeah, you know, I 283 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 4: think that me being younger than those pairs gives me 284 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: more years, you know what I'm saying. It gives me 285 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: like still like a longer runway to you know, do 286 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: what I want to do. 287 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: So so, in terms of your music career, what do 288 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: you think has kept you from getting to that next 289 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: level just music? Well, what you mean just like to 290 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: be in that to be mentioned with that with those 291 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: guys I or maybe have the commercial success to day. 292 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's me. I think it's the music 293 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: that I put out, you know what I'm saying. 294 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: I don't put out a lot of commercially poised music, 295 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 296 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 5: I think it's that or do you think it's that 297 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 5: you went the independent route. 298 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: I think it's a combination of both, you know what 299 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like I didn't. 300 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: I don't think that I've put out much commercial sound 301 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: and music, you know what I mean. And it's like 302 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: the ones that I did, Like you know, I put 303 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: out Devastated back in twenty sixteen, and that had a 304 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: big moment, and that's like probably one of my least 305 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: favorite songs in my catalog. 306 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: So it's like I. 307 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: Remember how that made me feel, and it's like, even 308 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: though it had the success, I'm like, is this feeling 309 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: worth it? 310 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Like do I want to like really be attached to 311 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: a song that I don't love? You know what I mean? 312 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: So like it kind of became more about artistic integrity 313 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: for me. It's like I just kind of value that 314 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: a little bit more. But what I will say is 315 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: I am trying to find the sweet spot. 316 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I am looking for that 317 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: sweet spot. It's like, how can I stay. 318 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: True to me but still like you know, amplify it, 319 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: amplify the sound so. 320 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: And nobody ever talks about that making a record that 321 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: works but it don't feel right to you, but you 322 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: got to go out there and live with it. 323 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, for sure, you 324 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 325 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: So that's what that taught me, and is like after that, 326 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: it was like I was very skeptical about making those type. 327 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: Of sounds again. 328 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Like you know, even though for me, like I really 329 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 4: do enjoy being experimental and versatile and I enjoy when 330 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: I play a song for somebody and they're like, yo, 331 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 4: that's you. 332 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: I enjoy that feeling. 333 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: But sometimes it also kind of like takes away from 334 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: like division a little bit, right, because like I don't 335 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: have a single other song like Devastated in my catalog, 336 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: and it's like when I'm when I'm going certain places, 337 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: that's the representative thing of me. But it's like when 338 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: you dive into my discography, it's like it just sounds 339 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: nothing like that, and you know what I mean. So 340 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: I think just kind of being away with that and 341 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: then also just focusing on my bodies of work as well, 342 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: you know, And. 343 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I think it's about what you want from a artist. 344 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Like when I listen to the project like underwater three 345 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: three feet three feet away, speeding through the rain, Like 346 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm on. I'm like, oh, okay, that's what 347 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm rewinding. Those are the records I enjoy here. 348 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those my favorites right there too. 349 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the record underwater. I totally understand what you meant, 350 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: you know when you say you feel like you're underwater. 351 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: But what do you do in those moments when you 352 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: feel like you're underwater, when that fame and depressure and 353 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: expectations feel like you're drowning? 354 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: Well, turn to God, you know what I'm s and 355 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: talk to God, connect with God, connect with sauce, and 356 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: do a lot of self reflection, you know what I mean. 357 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm somebody who, like, I'm not obsessed with being right, 358 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: because I believe that when I'm wrong, I learned, you know, 359 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: and you know, when I'm right, interestactly, I'm right in 360 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: the moment. 361 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: But so like in those moments, I do a lot. 362 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: Of self reflection, self correction, and you know, I like 363 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: to I like to take accountability because I feel like 364 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: that makes me better, It makes me stronger, and it 365 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: gives me, you know, the wisdom that I need for 366 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: the next day. 367 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: How do you protect your piece in the industry that thrives. 368 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: Okay, stay out the way, man, you know, stay out 369 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: the way. I think this year has been the most 370 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: in the way I've ever been. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 371 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: yeah for a good reason, right, Like a lot of 372 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: good music came out of it. But you know, just 373 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: from a general standpoint, like I think it's staying out 374 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: the way, and I think lifestyle affects a lot of that, right, 375 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: Like you know, like where I'm at now, my life 376 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: at thirty years old, Like you know, I'm still fairly young, 377 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: but my life reflects that of like a very mature man, 378 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 379 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: So it's like you ain't gonna really find me in 380 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: the club. 381 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: You ain't gonna find me, and like you know, these uh, 382 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: these dark energy spaces, you know what I'm saying, where 383 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: like like, yo, I got my social battery so low. Now, Yo, 384 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: when I saw you out the other night when we 385 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: was at the metro booming joint, like after that, like 386 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: I just had to stay in the house with five as. 387 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: A year recovering, you know what I'm saying. 388 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: And it was too much because you know what I mean, 389 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: it's like I get mad dafts out, you know, mad 390 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: people like yo boy, It's like the first time a 391 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: lot of people were seeing me, you know what I mean. 392 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: And it's just it does a lot to me, and 393 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: it's like I kind of got to recover from that. Yeah, 394 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: I probably gonna have to recover from this interview. 395 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: Because I bought the niggas juice. 396 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: Impressed me about. 397 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: How much is being a successful actor change the trajectory 398 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: of your career. You just enjoy bad as the rapper 399 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: when you go out you I mean, I. 400 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: Would say that you know it made music because I 401 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 4: feel like at a point music was becoming to me 402 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: like feeling like a job. 403 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: And I think that. 404 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: The success in acting has like supported music being art 405 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: against me and just like it being like, just do 406 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: what you want to do because you're good, you know 407 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, like you're good, there's other things 408 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: that you can do, like you know you are, You're limitless, 409 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: So do what you want to do and just make 410 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: sure that every expression is as true as to heart, 411 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's just the spirit as 412 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: you wish it to be. 413 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: What do you like better acting on music? 414 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: I like both you know what I mean. 415 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: It's like people ask me that question a lot, and 416 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, like, why do I got to choose? 417 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I. 418 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: Think that there we're talking about the field of arts. 419 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: So to me, it's the same thing almost, you know 420 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: what I mean. It's like it's still me. I'm just 421 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: showing up in another space, another medium, but as an 422 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: artist still you know what I mean, expressing myself performing. 423 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: This, that the third. So it's like, yeah, I like both, Like. 424 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I don't plan on choosing 425 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: that one over the other. Like I think that, yeah, 426 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm highly capable and I will continue to be capable 427 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: of just doing both, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 428 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: I got some some movies that that I'm working on, 429 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 4: some shows that I'm working on. 430 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: I can't you know, spill no beans yet, but man, 431 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 2: I gotta be aware of that. Man, the cliff, just 432 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: on the cliff, on the cliff, all the time. It's 433 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: slowly at the top of the cliff. Yes. 434 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Has acting changed the way you write music? 435 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Hmmm? 436 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: No, But I have been having a repeated thought like 437 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: I want to approach my music more from a space 438 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: like that more from like a theatrical space, like how 439 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: can I you know, not with this album, but like 440 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: how moving forward? How can I involve what I've learned 441 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: on the TV and film side and bring it into 442 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: my music more. I have been like, you know, examining 443 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 4: that whole feel of thought and being like, yo, like, 444 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: I definitely want to try my hand at like world 445 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: building and playing a character on a body of work, 446 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: if you will, and. 447 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: Like playing into that and music videos and all of 448 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: that type of shit, because I'm like, I could do that. 449 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: You've seen that though, I mean Biggie did it with 450 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: like Ready to Die or Rayquan did it. 451 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 4: Right, right, right, but you know, doing it in twenty 452 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: twenty five at a whole new level, you know what 453 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 454 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Even Kendrick did it with Good Kid, Mad City. You know, 455 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: like those guys do it. 456 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 7: How connected are you to your roles? Like is playing 457 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 7: Unique and raising Kanan? How how many like are there 458 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 7: a lot of similarities between Joey Badass and Unique. 459 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: I say, when it comes to any character that I play, 460 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: the first you know I do is find a similarity, 461 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: but I also find the differences too, Right, I think 462 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: that I get very I do get very connected to 463 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 4: my characters because I think that my style of acting 464 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 4: is kind of like method a little bit like what 465 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: they call method acting, and it's like I have to 466 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: I have to believe it and I have to like 467 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: like I tell people all the time, like I don't 468 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm not interested in acting. I'm interested in like living, 469 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Like I become the 470 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: role and like I live it out like on film 471 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 4: if you will you know what I'm saying, because to me, 472 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: that's the only way that it's real, like there is 473 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: when you see me. There is aspects of what's going 474 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: on that I'm like in that moment, like I believe 475 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it's real to me, 476 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: like this is what's going on is And then it's 477 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: like I think that one of my strengths is an 478 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: actor too on My biggest strength, I would say, is 479 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: my instincts. Because you know, it's one thing to look 480 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: at lines, and lines is easy for me because I 481 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: come from rappid so it's nothing for me to memorize lines. 482 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: But for me, what like really brings it to life 483 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: to me is when I get in that environment and 484 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, cool, like I'm kind of talking with 485 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: the environment if you will you know what I'm saying. 486 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: And it's just like, shit, I don't know. 487 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: I might approach you know, my my my senior partner 488 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: a certain type of way, but like that was a 489 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: scripted or I might say something to bridge the lines 490 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: together because that just feels real for me, Like this 491 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: is what I would do in the situation type of thing. 492 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 7: And do you have you ever gotten stuck in a 493 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: role right, like oh shit, oh no, okay when you. 494 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: Go home back and you need get a police called 495 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: on you? 496 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 5: When Unique got killed off? Did you know you were 497 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 5: killed off? Or like did you know you were coming back? 498 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: Did I know I was coming back? 499 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: Yes, So I didn't know I was coming back. I 500 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 4: didn't I was coming back, So like you know, the 501 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: story goes that. So the reason why that even happened 502 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 4: was because that year I had put out in an album 503 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: when we was filming that season, and I had to 504 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: tour it and the tour was conflicting with the shooting schedule, 505 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: and I was just like yo, at that point, it 506 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: was like season three, and I was just at a 507 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: point where it's like yo, I feel like, I mean, 508 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 4: how long is the show going to go on? I 509 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: don't know, but I feel like I've done what I 510 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: had to do. So I'm like, I'm cool with y'all 511 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: eighty six to me if that's what y'all gotta do, 512 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that's why it happened. 513 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 4: It was written into the script unique dies. And then 514 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: the day that I wanted to get my head casting right, 515 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 4: which is like the process of like, you know, if 516 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 4: you're about to have a brutal death in the TV, 517 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: you got to get your head casted because like they 518 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 4: need something to bang in, you know what I mean, 519 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: Like so like they make a fake prosthetic version. When 520 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: I walked into that office, I was like, oh, no, 521 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: something is wrong. I made a mistake, you know what 522 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: I mean. And I called up Sasha Penn, who was 523 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: the creator and the show runner raising Kanaan. 524 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, is there any way. 525 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: Because you know what it was, I had that moment 526 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, I felt like I was like 527 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: at a crossroad. So first I called my mom because 528 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: my mom is somebody who is just going to give 529 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 4: it to me raw, you know what I'm saying, so 530 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, like what should I do? Because at 531 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: the time, there was something on the horizon that wasn't 532 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: set in stone yet. So I was cool walking away 533 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: from the show because I'm like, I'm about to walk 534 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: up to this other opportunity when I get back from 535 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: to him. And then my mom had dropped some wisdom 536 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: on me, like, yo, one in the hand is better 537 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: than two in the bush, and I was like, let 538 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: me call you back, and I called up Sasha and 539 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, is there any way we could reverse 540 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 4: because he never wanted to let me go. 541 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: He never wanted to kill my character. He never wanted 542 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: to kill him. 543 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: And then he was just like yo, Joey, like tell 544 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: me you serious because if you are, like, I'm gonna 545 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 4: make some calls and it's like you cannot play with me. 546 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: And I'm like, nah, I'm dead serious. He made it 547 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: happen for me, and I left the head casting was. 548 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: I was I was mad at him. 549 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah really unique And he's not. 550 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: Only want to kill you if you wanted to die, 551 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah really. 552 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 5: Really, but you're dying to tell us like, all right, guys, 553 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: I'm coming back. Because everybody was tweeting you you know 554 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: mentioned yo. 555 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of fucked up because I had 556 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 4: to even lie to my castmates. Yeah, like I couldn't 557 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: even tell my castmates why though, because that's what they 558 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: told me. It was like, yo, like like you can't, 559 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 4: you can't tell nobody because it was a cliffhanger, right, 560 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: So it was everybody was still shooting, like I died 561 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: episode five, and it's like they had to keep going. 562 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: So it was like they're like, no, we got to 563 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: keep the like we got to keep the characters safe, 564 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: like everybody got to believe that shit, right, And I 565 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I mean all. 566 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 5: Right, that makes sense. Fifty be doing some random what 567 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 5: random near death moments and then they come back. 568 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: What did fifty say during that time? But he's that 569 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: type of involvement? 570 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: What did he say at that time? 571 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: I didn't speak to fifty till after when I had 572 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: came back, and yeah, he had. He pulled up on 573 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: me one day and like it was just me and him, 574 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: like we just traveling up for like forty five minutes. 575 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: Fifty is like, I like, he said a lot. He 576 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: said he said a lot that day. 577 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm saying he dropped a lot of 578 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: game and wisdom, and I could tell that, like he 579 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 4: got respect for me, and obviously it's mutual, you know 580 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So yeah, no, he was just basically like, yo, 581 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: you got it, Like like yeah, shit, you the one 582 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: like you could do whatever the fuck you want to 583 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: do in this joint. Like and he was like, Yo, 584 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: you know, I I want to let you know, I 585 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 4: got like thirty eight plus other shows, so it's whatever 586 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 4: you want to do, you know what I'm saying, And like, 587 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: you know, just kind of giving me that talk, and 588 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, word, you know, I. 589 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: Want to go back to the music for a minute, right, 590 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: like you've always kept that classic New York City sound. 591 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Do you ever feel any pressure to evolve with the 592 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: time pressure? 593 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 4: I feel like I did in the past, but I 594 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: feel like now I'm at a point. It's like, man, 595 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: I feel like when you get to, like, you know, 596 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: your thirties, and then I think I've had an accelerated growth, 597 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: so youven know I'm thirty, I feel like I live 598 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 4: like I'm thirty seven. 599 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: That's how I got my lifestyle is. 600 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: For real, And I just feel like I'm at the 601 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 4: point where it's like, man, like I know exactly who 602 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: I am, you know what I'm saying. So I don't 603 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: feel the pressure to like do anything that anybody else 604 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 4: is doing, Like I just want to do me Like 605 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: I'm very content and fulfilled by doing what I want 606 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 4: to do and what feels natural and true and authentic 607 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: for me. Yeah, Cause it's like if it don't feel authentic, 608 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 4: it's like I feel off, you know what I mean, 609 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: I feel out of balance. 610 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: So what that said. Coming from a borough like Brooklyn, 611 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: which is so rich and hip hop, how did it 612 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: feel watching so many Brooklyn artists embrace like drill music, That's. 613 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: An interesting question. I mean it felt like because I 614 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: feel like. 615 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: Drill didn't come from New York, you know what I'm saying. 616 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 4: It came from Like I mean, where did it come from? 617 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: In UK? 618 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, London and Chicago. 619 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: So I mean I thought it was interesting though, Like 620 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at nobody or whatever, you know what 621 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it kind of eventually, you know, New 622 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 4: York made his own version of it type of thing, 623 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: you know. 624 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean listen, like that's what they do. 625 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: I do what I do, like I've always been proud. 626 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: Of like just doing my own thing, you know what 627 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying, being able to stand over here and like 628 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: my own lean and shit like that. Like I just 629 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: always been content with that, you know what I mean. 630 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: But shout out to a la homie. You know what 631 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying, because I know all of these guys and everything, 632 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: you know, mutuals. 633 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 3: You got a residency, Yu, this is correct? 634 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: Well I had one. I have is over now. 635 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did that come out? How did that come about? 636 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: So I started a. 637 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: Mentorship program called Impact Mentorship, which provides professional mentorship for 638 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: men of color in the United States and Puerto Rico. 639 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: And you know, one thing kind of led to. 640 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: Another and in YU noticed the work that I was 641 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: doing and they reached out for me to do an 642 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: artist in residency And I was actually the youngest artist 643 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: to ever do a residency there and it was beautiful. 644 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: Man. 645 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: Like, I'm all for connecting with, you know, the younger 646 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: generations and sharing my wisdom because I feel like, you know, 647 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: I ain't come this far to just like not share 648 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: what I've learned with people. Like I'm very big on 649 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: like going back to the navigation analogy, Like I'm very 650 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: big on Like, Yo, I've been down this road. It's 651 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: a pothole right there. Make sure you go left or Yo, 652 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: that room right there is on fire, you know what 653 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I mean you could go see for yourself, 654 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: but just no, as soon as you touch that door handle, 655 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: your hand is gonna burn. 656 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: You know what i mean. 657 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: You know sometimes people still want to you know, but 658 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: I'm very big on sharing that information because that wasn't 659 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: done for me all the time and my come up, 660 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I want to make 661 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: sure that I could use myself as not only an example, 662 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: but as a tool for like, you know, people on 663 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: the come up. 664 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Because yeah, but you. 665 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: Get though when you listen to your music or even 666 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: just a regular conversation. When you said earlier you said charlamage, 667 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: you were really expressing some type of feelings this day, 668 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when you look at 669 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: like the underwater, like I said, the three feet away 670 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: to speeding through the ring, you clearly are addressing your 671 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: mental and emotional well being. So do you share the 672 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: work you've done with people? Oh? 673 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like this project right here, like it all 674 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: went platinum already amongst my friends and family. Okay, you 675 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like shout out to Untitled is 676 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: an app that they allow you to kind of like 677 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, ship music, and it's like, yo, I just 678 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: got five thousand streams already, not literally, like it got 679 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: five thousand plays just for me sharing it with my 680 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: friends and my family, and it's like seeing everybody gravitate 681 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: to this, gravitate to that, Like you know, I kind 682 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 4: of like my village is very involved, and you know 683 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: the music that I'm making and producing. 684 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: And I heard you talk about meditation before. Oh yeah, therapy, 685 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all of that. 686 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: Okay, all of that, all of the fucking the self 687 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: improvement shit, Like I'm all about it, you know what 688 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: I mean? 689 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's more therapeutic? Actual therapy are going in the 690 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: booth and getting it off. I know you always hear 691 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: the artist be like your therapy is Yeah, music is 692 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: my therapy. You know. 693 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: It's interesting you asked that because you know, I think 694 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: both are therapeutic. I think you know, when you when 695 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: you're in the booth, though, it's like it's just letting 696 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: off steam almost. 697 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. 698 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: You get to express, but like do you really get 699 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: to understand? 700 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 701 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: And I feel like that's what's sitting down with the 702 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: therapist really brings to you. 703 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: It's like it helps you get to that place. 704 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: Of like knowing why things are happening to you and 705 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: not just like what are what is happening to you? 706 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 707 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 4: I feel like the music gives me the outlet to 708 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: talk about what is happening, but therapy gives me the 709 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: outlet to understand why things are happening, you know what 710 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And yeah, it's like I actually am looking 711 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: for a therapist at the moment. 712 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why do you why do you think you 713 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: need it? One? 714 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: Well, I loved my past one, but it's like it's 715 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: just been a little minute since, you know, we connected. 716 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 4: So it's just like I'm looking for somebody, you know, yeah, 717 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: because it's like, yeah, you know, we gotta we're gonna 718 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 4: have to do the whole thing anyway, like you know, redownload. 719 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: And shit like that. But yeah, but yeah, he was 720 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: he was great and he he helped me a lot. 721 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: I love when black men learned early what I learned 722 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: late because I didn't start going to therapies since I 723 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: was thirty six or thirty six, thirty seven, So what 724 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: was the moment you realized you needed you only thirty? 725 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: So I actually had did one of those therapist sessions 726 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: with Noisy You remember those joints they used to put 727 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: out with the rappers. 728 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: Therapist series did one. I did one. And it's funny 729 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: because that's the first time I ever did therapy. It 730 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: was live for the world to see, you know what 731 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean. 732 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: And I felt like indifferent about that at the time, 733 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: but I was very glad that I did it. 734 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: And I was very like, you know. 735 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: Typical, like he gonna say he gonna help me with 736 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: and I ended up like crying a type of ship. 737 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: And then after that I actually connected with him, and 738 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: that's who became my therapist like the next five years, 739 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We conducted private sessions after that, 740 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: and you know, and yeah, shout to doctor Siri, like 741 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 4: he's he's he has helped me becoming a better person. 742 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. 743 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 7: I love how you can be transparent about that. Not 744 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 7: many men can be transparent about that. Prior to your 745 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 7: relationship with Therea, you kept your personal life very private, 746 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 7: like they knew very little about you. And I know 747 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 7: that is intentional, but how hard has it been adjusting 748 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 7: to people knowing because we still don't know a lot, 749 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 7: but just even knowing that part of it, How have 750 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 7: you been adjusting to that? 751 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: I would say that it's a learning experience because it's 752 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: pretty new for me, you know. But what's not new 753 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: for me is being a public figure. So I'm somewhat 754 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 4: used to and normalized the idea that I'm freaking you 755 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like my life is up for 756 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: anybody to talk about, like at least whatever I show. 757 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 758 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: So I just try to be as cognizant as that 759 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: as possible, and you know, show what I want them 760 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: to see, and you know, not show other things like 761 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: you know, I don't. I've never been a person to like, 762 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: you know, really show my kids like that on social 763 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: media because you know, like you know, with my daughter 764 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: for example, like her mom and I is obviously not together. 765 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 4: So like there are moments where my daughter is not 766 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: going to be with me, and the last thing that 767 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: I want is for people coming up to her because 768 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: you know. 769 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, they know me or something like. 770 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 4: That, Like yeah, so it's like I do that out 771 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: of protection and yeah, I'm very very critical about, you know, 772 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: protecting the people in my life. 773 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like I'm not just 774 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: because these people are not on the stage I am. 775 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 776 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm built for this, you know what I'm saying. 777 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 4: The public opinion and stuff like that. People say negative 778 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: things to me. I say negative things all the time. 779 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: I don't respond, I don't engage. But these people are 780 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: not you know what I'm saying. It's like that that'll 781 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: really affect their world and affect their energy, you know 782 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 783 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: So I do my best to protect my loved ones. 784 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: You think people realize how proping you are in Hollywood? 785 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: How pop and I am, Like you were part of 786 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: a project that want to osk you bro crazy? 787 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean shit, listen, man, I don't. I don't. 788 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: I don't think I really give a fuck about that 789 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: type of shit. Sharlow man, you know what I'm saying. 790 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: Like I if you came to my house, you will 791 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 4: understand why I don't give a fuck. 792 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: Like I live a beautiful life, you. 793 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 4: Know, what I'm saying, like I pray every day every 794 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 4: morning if the world got to catch up with some 795 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: type of like understanding of who I am in Charlotte, 796 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 797 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 3: Look, why you didn't wear blue at the baby shower? 798 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: You from Baltimore? 799 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, yeah from bottim Oio. 800 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so why you didn't wear blue? 801 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: You just my lady? 802 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: I got you, all right? 803 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: You know the balance? 804 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: You look nice. Y'all looked great. 805 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 7: I was just You're the first person I saw were 806 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 7: black all black black panther at the the uh, but. 807 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: You look nice. 808 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful event from what we saw. 809 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 7: We see much from the baby shower, but from what 810 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 7: we saw, y'all did look nice. 811 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 5: Thank you, Being that you are somebody who's so evolved 812 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 5: and like deep into work with therapy and stuff like that. 813 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 5: How did you feel about j Coole's apology during the 814 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 5: whole battle this question? 815 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: I understood it, you know what I'm saying, Like, like 816 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: I definitely understood. 817 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: It's like because you know what it's like, I don't. 818 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 819 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 4: I don't want to, Like I'm really not looking for 820 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 4: a moment of like a clickbait thing. 821 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 822 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 4: I'm really trying to be intentional about what I say, 823 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: but you know, I understood it. I just feel like, 824 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 4: you know, if I just like you should have never 825 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 4: engaged in the first place. You know, that's it. That's 826 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: all I'm gonna say, like you just never engage if 827 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 4: it was gonna be about that, So you know, in 828 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 4: referencing back to the line that you had brought up, 829 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 4: and that's why I said, it's like, you know, I 830 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: won't I won't do that, like I won't, I won't delete. 831 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: Like if I'm gonna say something, I ain't gonna take 832 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: it back. I'm gonna take everything that comes with that, 833 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, even if it's a conversation 834 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 4: to be had, Like Yo, I didn't mean it like that, 835 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 4: Like it's my intention, but I'm still going to stand 836 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 4: on what I said, you know what I mean. But 837 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 4: whatever I mean, I think it was it was commendable 838 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 4: that if he felt that he did something out of 839 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: the pocket and he was like, Yo, that's not me, y'all, 840 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 4: Like forgive me. 841 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: I respect that. 842 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying like that it takes a 843 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 4: real man to do that. But I just feel like 844 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 4: he should have never engaged. 845 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Was that your approach when you was going back and 846 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: forth with all the West Coast rappords, Like when you 847 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: was writing your bars, he was like, let me be 848 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: intentional about every word, because the things I say I'm gonna. 849 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: Stand well, not initially honestly, you know what I'm saying, 850 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 4: Because when I wrote Rulers Back, I honestly didn't think 851 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: that it was gonna get all of that. Like I thought, like, 852 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 4: you know, I thought that people Sometimes I look at 853 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: it as like I have so many peers in this thing, 854 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: and everybody who's gonna hear it is going to have 855 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 4: the same perspective as my peers. And it's like it 856 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 4: was one of those moments where I had to realize that, like, Yo, 857 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 4: this landed on the doorstep of a lot of people 858 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 4: who don't know you, you know what I'm saying. 859 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: Who don't know your character, don't know your personality. 860 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: So I had to deal with that. But even still 861 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: I stood on what I said. 862 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 863 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, I ain't about to you know, just 864 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 4: jump on Twitter like yo, Like like nah, I said 865 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: what I said, and I know what my intention was 866 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 4: about it. But if you feel some type of way, 867 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 4: you feel some type of way, you know what I'm saying, 868 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: I can't do nothing. 869 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 5: About because perception can be louder than like your intentions. 870 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. 871 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: And again, being a public figure, this is one of 872 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 4: the things that you come to realize and why you 873 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 4: gotta be super intentional, you know what I mean. You 874 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 4: got to think about it all. And I think that's 875 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: the only misstep that I made was not really taking 876 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 4: the time and sitting with myself and really thinking the 877 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: type of effect that that was gonna have, like because 878 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: like I said, for me, it was playful, like I 879 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 4: was in the studio the night before and then we 880 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: recorded the videos soon as we came out the studio 881 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: and we put it up the next day. It was 882 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 4: no thought, you know what I'm saying. It was just like, yo, 883 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 4: be in it. I feel good, Let's do some off 884 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: the wall shit. Let's just put it out. 885 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: It's music, is. 886 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: What's the word. It was like in the moment, you 887 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And yeah. 888 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that you know what That moment 889 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: made me realize it's not a lot of new spits 890 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: from New York because the spin is from New York? 891 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: Who actually can spit that a new Some of them 892 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: jumped out there and you know, got busy with you 893 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: a couple like who was the one? It was one 894 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: in particular, it. 895 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: Was it was just one. Yeah, he was. 896 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: The only one. Meanwhile, when you got brought up, but 897 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: then it was like six dudes from the West coast. 898 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Reason it was like. 899 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 4: It was you know what, Like in addition to all 900 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 4: of the names that like are like, you know, more known, 901 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 4: there was also like ten more like twenty more people 902 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 4: who we don't know, like every day, like I would 903 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: go online and just like Joey bad as this, I'm 904 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 4: like another one. 905 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 7: But I'm like, man, I like that, I'm in the conversation. 906 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 7: I'm niggas is paying attention like so, I mean not 907 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 7: for nothing that I like that. 908 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: But do you feel like the New York rappers were 909 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: too complacent? Though? Don't you feel like more should have 910 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: rolled with you? Maybe they just didn't have the lyrical 911 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: ability to be. 912 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I don't think that, Like I don't 913 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 4: feel a way about nobody they're jumping in because it's like, yo, 914 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 4: I'm a handle my business, you know what I'm saying. 915 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 4: It's like if I'm on the street and I get 916 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: into a fight or somebody is jumping me and I 917 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 4: don't see nothing of my friends around, I'm not just 918 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: gonna think that a random person on this like, you 919 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, especially if perceived as I 920 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 4: provoke the fight, I'm gonna handle my stuff, you know 921 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I don't feel no way that nobody 922 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 4: ain't like jumping like, I'm gonna handle my stuff. 923 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 5: I saw Benny tweet out like I think is handling him. 924 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: I saw that. 925 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you could have rote a verse Benny. 926 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 4: A ball or something, but you know what, to what 927 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 4: I would say to that point, I'm glad nobody else 928 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 4: jumped in because even though I was going back and forth, 929 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 4: I have enough ties and allies over there where that 930 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: shit was never gonna go left field. It was never 931 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 4: gonna go out of pocket. And I feel like if 932 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 4: anybody else would have jumped in, it could have got 933 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 4: convoluted like that. Now we're talking about street shit and 934 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 4: all of that, you know what I'm saying. So I 935 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 4: was able to control it in the time of way 936 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 4: where it's like, that's not what's what this is about, 937 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I feel like any 938 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 4: other type of interference it could have took it, blew 939 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: it out of proportion. 940 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: Told niggas to rap. That wasn't just for the West Coast, 941 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: you know what I wanted to hear, everybody getting busy. 942 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: Or well, you know ship. You know, it's lonely at 943 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: the top. Its interesting times. Who knows what unfold? 944 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 5: Is it done though, Like do you think it's actually done? 945 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 5: Because I felt like absolutely, yeah, are you sure? Because 946 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 5: it started in January, then we had like a gap, 947 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 5: then it picked back up. So I feel like, now 948 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 5: you're about to drop this album. 949 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 4: Listen, shout to the homie Daylight, Shout to the homie 950 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 4: ray Von, Like, you know, not the homie, but somebody 951 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 4: who I have since spoken to. 952 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: We had a conversation. We spoke about it, like yeah, 953 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: of course, it's like, yo, you did your stuff, like 954 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 2: mutual respect. 955 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 4: That type of thing. So it's like, yeah, like it's done. 956 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 4: It was never no real issue in the first place. 957 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 4: I said something. Some people felt the way they said 958 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 4: they stuff back to me, but nobody wanted to hurt me, 959 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying. It was never about no 960 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 4: bodily harm or nothing like that. So this is something 961 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 4: that we could, like I bet booms. You know, we 962 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 4: had our little friendly fade and like we're gonna we're 963 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 4: gonna keep. 964 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: It pushing, you know, t Easter the real thing. 965 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 4: I think it can be. Yeah, so you know, me 966 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 4: and Top has some conversations for Shure. Yeah yeah, yeah, 967 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 4: I think I think it can be a real thing, 968 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, if we wanted. 969 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 5: To be interesting. Yeah, now you performing Jimmy Fallon right. 970 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 2: Jimmy kim Jimmy Kimmel. 971 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 5: You performed the disc on Jimmy Kimmel. 972 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: Like this is I love when people get their white 973 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: people confused. 974 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 3: I really don't problem. 975 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: I was just entertained to you do that, like on 976 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 5: a show like that. 977 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it, Yeah, I was, you know, I like, 978 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 4: I like pushing the envelope and like, you know, doing 979 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 4: things outside of my comfort zone like that was one 980 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 4: of those moments me. 981 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: Also like the coral. 982 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah. 983 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, 984 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: I love I love I love that aspect as well, 985 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And like when it comes 986 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 4: to like award shows, and. 987 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 2: Like I'm a performer. You know what I'm saying. 988 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 4: I want to put on the show every time, you 989 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm never just gonna have like 990 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 4: a certain type of moment and not do something like 991 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 4: somewhat theatrical with it. 992 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 993 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 5: It adds a lot of value because I feel like 994 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 5: a lot of rappers are very on the mic. 995 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you know, you know, too cool and shit 996 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 4: like that, and I could be one of those rappers. 997 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 4: But that was definitely one of those moments where I'm like, y'all, 998 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 4: want to change myself to do something different, And we 999 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 4: did that all in like a day, you. 1000 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 1001 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: So I do want to ask one last thing about 1002 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: the back and forth with the raps. Why Kendrick? Why 1003 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: did you want Kendrick in particular? 1004 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 2: I didn't want Kendrick in particular. 1005 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: I think that the narrative became that because when I 1006 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 4: said too much West Coast Dick click, and everybody is like. 1007 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh, he hated on Kendrick. He talked about like Nigga, 1008 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: I'm not hating on Kendrick. 1009 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 4: Like those I love those guys, you know what I'm 1010 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 4: saying I've had I've had a long standing relationship with 1011 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 4: these guys from the beginning of time. By the way, 1012 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 4: me and Ass so announcing today were about to go 1013 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 4: on tour yea, yeah me, Ass and the rhaps City 1014 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 4: is going on tour, you know what I'm saying. 1015 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 2: So it's like the dark Over tour yup coming this fall. 1016 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, to a. 1017 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 4: Lot of my confusion, I feel like people were trying 1018 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 4: to build that narrative that like, Yo, Joey's hating on Kendrick, 1019 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 4: he's like hating on his success and he wants a battle. 1020 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 4: I think for me, it's just more about I'm always 1021 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 4: going to be a competitive rapper. 1022 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: All of these. 1023 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 4: Guys know that because they're the same way too, you 1024 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But it's like it's in the 1025 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 4: spirit of like love and just like competitive. 1026 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: Energies, like I don't I don't, I don't hate. 1027 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 4: It's not in my blood, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1028 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 4: I don't hate on no man shit, you know what 1029 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 4: I mean. So I think people became made that the narrative, 1030 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 4: and all of the people who responded to me. 1031 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: Adopted that narrative. 1032 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: Like, oh, you hated on did Like like when Ray 1033 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 4: Vaughan first responded like a. 1034 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: Lot of his shit was like, oh to pop out 1035 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 2: did this for niggas. 1036 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 4: I'm like, great, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm 1037 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 4: not mad at you know what your nigga was fucking 1038 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 4: crip walking and not like. 1039 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 2: Us all summer. 1040 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, to do that. 1041 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm allowed to do what you mean. 1042 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: If I'm allowed to do it, it's crazy. Why not 1043 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: you're crypt I don't know. 1044 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: I crip walk, bro. 1045 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 6: Like you. 1046 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 2: You don't got to be crypto crip I don't know. 1047 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1048 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 2: You ain't got to be crypto crip walk. 1049 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Fucking crip walk nigga, Like 1050 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 4: the fuck I'm dumba hit my ship and do my dance, nigga. 1051 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna do nothing about it? You know what 1052 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 2: I'm saying. The fun but yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1053 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 4: So I was crip walking like a summer, Like I said, 1054 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, You're not getting no more juice. 1055 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: Done. I want to ask you said you was that 1056 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: metro booming? Metro booming? I love metro Booman project, by 1057 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: the way, you know what I mean, because I like 1058 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: how he pays homage to that era. Have you ever 1059 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: thought of about doing something like that with like a 1060 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: Pete Rock our premier, because your flow is so nineteen 1061 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,439 Speaker 1: ninety now. I would love to hear you with that 1062 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: level of production. Have you ever thought about that? I 1063 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: got select on the new Joint. 1064 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I've thought about that. 1065 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: Shout to meshow too, because I loved how nostalgically atl 1066 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 4: that project sounded like. 1067 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: I really did appreciate that. 1068 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I have those thoughts, and I 1069 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 4: think that I have those pockets even on this project too, 1070 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But making something fully in 1071 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 4: that vein, I could see that, I could see that 1072 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 4: maybe we should have a conversation about that. You let 1073 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 4: me know who you think should I could pull that off. 1074 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 1: It's easy have it Pete Rock ninth Wonder Premiere. 1075 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 2: But it's like you saying man names, like I need you. 1076 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 1: You want to do it? One in general, right? 1077 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 2: Okay? 1078 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 5: One in general would be good, especially right now in 1079 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 5: the climate. Like Alchemist has done that a lot. 1080 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: I would love to do a project with Alchemists, Me 1081 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 4: and Static we already got like a project of material 1082 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 4: like just in the vault, you know what I mean. 1083 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 4: So that's that's easy, that's a no brainer. But I 1084 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 4: would also really love to do a project with Alchemists. 1085 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: Who would you lock in with, like a classic New 1086 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: York producer if you had to pick. 1087 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 4: Up, Oh shit me and have it. We've been talking 1088 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 4: about working too. Pete Rock is my man, you know 1089 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: what I'm saying since the beginning. Me and Pete Rock 1090 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 4: first worked together in like twenty twelve. We still got 1091 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 4: some shit on the hard drive from then. 1092 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 3: It sounds like we have a tape already. 1093 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 4: Then. 1094 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, oh. 1095 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we could definitely make it happen. We 1096 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 4: could definitely make it happen. That's something that I could do. 1097 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 4: I think the only reason I haven't done it because 1098 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 4: I felt like it was so low, low hanging fruit. 1099 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 4: That's probably why now it's like I can't get songs 1100 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 4: like Underwater if. 1101 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 2: I do that type shit. 1102 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 5: I feel like, just because it's easy don't mean you 1103 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 5: should do it. It's just easy to you, but it 1104 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 5: ain't easy for other people to do. That's why you 1105 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 5: should do it. 1106 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 4: No, you're right, You're right, and it's like, yeah, I'm 1107 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 4: leaving that, like you know, I'm leaving here. 1108 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 2: With some. 1109 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: Do you feel like substances undervalued in today's music industry? 1110 00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: I do. 1111 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 4: I do think think that substance is undervalued. And yeah, 1112 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, I think that we live in a very 1113 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 4: godless world, godless society is very vain. So it's like 1114 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 4: I think the music is a reflection of that, and 1115 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think Nina Simone said something 1116 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: like that, like the music is always going to kind 1117 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 4: of be a reflection or speak to the. 1118 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 2: Times, and that just happened to be the times that 1119 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 2: we year. 1120 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 4: So I think we do need to appreciate and lift 1121 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 4: up the artists who are you know, going out their 1122 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 4: way to make intentional and substantial music and messages because 1123 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 4: it's important. 1124 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: It's just like it just happens to be that. 1125 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 4: Like, you know, people like sweets, and what I mean 1126 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 4: by that is like, you know, metaphorically speaking like candy, 1127 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 4: and like you know, people like to get the buzz 1128 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 4: quick and shit like that, and sometimes you know, the 1129 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 4: more medicated stuff, if you will, it's not as you know, 1130 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 4: bright and colorful. 1131 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, m I feel like when you sacrifice the substance, 1132 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: you sacrifice in your mental and emotional well being. So 1133 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: what would you say to younger artists who feel like 1134 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: they need to sacrifice their substance their mental health just 1135 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: to have success. 1136 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: What would I say to young artists who has to 1137 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: come again. 1138 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: Sacrifice this, sacrifice the substance for success, or sacrifice their 1139 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:23,959 Speaker 1: mental health. 1140 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 4: Well, I feel like for the young artists who are 1141 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 4: not being substantial, I don't think they're necessarily sacrificing anything. 1142 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 2: I think that's just who they are, you know what 1143 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1144 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 4: And I think that they are a reflection of what 1145 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 4: their life cycle or their lifestyle looks like. 1146 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1147 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 4: So to the young people out there in general, you 1148 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I would say to like, you know, 1149 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 4: really take your life seriously and like, you know, look 1150 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 4: at the people who's around you, and really think about 1151 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 4: what kind of information are you gaining, you know what 1152 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 4: I mean, Because if you just hardest version in the room, 1153 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 4: like you know, you're obviously in the wrong room. 1154 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 2: They say that all the time. But also I believe 1155 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: in learning. I believe in. 1156 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 4: You see, we live in a society too, where the 1157 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 4: information is there, but nobody has a thirst or hunger 1158 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 4: passion for knowledge, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, 1159 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 4: right now I'm in the point of my life where 1160 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 4: I'm telling everybody around me because now I've become so 1161 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 4: into it, Like I'm telling everybody around me, like y'all 1162 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 4: got to get into these stocks, bro get into the stocks, 1163 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 4: get into these crypto you know what I'm saying, Because 1164 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 4: like I'm looking at it from perspective like I'm. 1165 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: Already rich and successful, you know what I mean. 1166 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 4: So for me, it's easy to like throw fifty K 1167 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 4: into the market and flip that and see what to 1168 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 4: do for me. 1169 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: But it's the eighty like a COVID game on the tape. 1170 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1171 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 4: So it's easy for me to do that and see 1172 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 4: the return, but it's really a matter of the percentages 1173 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: right where it's like, Okay, you know you could throw 1174 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 4: I'm throwing an eighty K, but you could throw an 1175 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 4: eight hundred and get a sixty percent return and like, 1176 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 4: you know, put that up and reinvest that rentive repeat. 1177 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 4: Because I'm like, yo, if I wasn't doing what I 1178 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: was doing, I think I'd be a day trader right now. 1179 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 2: And it's just like it's so and this is what 1180 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean. 1181 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 4: Like there was a there was an interview clip with 1182 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 4: me and Gilly with Me and Gilly that had went viral, 1183 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 4: and it's just like I said in there, like it's 1184 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 4: so much money out here for all of us, and 1185 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 4: I really do believe that. But what's keeping people from 1186 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 4: that money is being too lazy to obtain the knowledge. 1187 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,919 Speaker 4: And it's like, yo, why are we Like they didn't 1188 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 4: teach us this in school, but the knowledge is still 1189 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 4: out there. Like I've taught myself this shit over the 1190 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 4: last six months by just being on YouTube videos. Yo, 1191 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 4: how the options trade? How to you know what I'm saying, 1192 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 4: boom boom, like doing my research on these companies boom 1193 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 4: booming now because I've had a portfolio, like you know, 1194 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 4: with Morgan Stanley for like ten plus years and it's 1195 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 4: just like I've always just put money in there, and 1196 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 4: they gave me my toe for saying stan the return 1197 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 4: on the year league. 1198 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 2: But now I'm doing my own. 1199 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 4: Plays and now my shit's going crazy because I'm paying attention. 1200 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 4: So what I'm seeing now was like damn, like this 1201 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 4: was this was just a matter of me not knowing, 1202 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like that's the only thing 1203 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 4: that was keeping me from this bag right here, was 1204 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 4: just that I didn't know. So I'm like screaming off 1205 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 4: the mountaintop right now at this point in my life 1206 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 4: to all my people, like, YO, get into these stocks, 1207 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, before they find a way 1208 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 4: to fucking lock us out because it's. 1209 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: So much money in it and it's so accessible nowadays, Like, Yo, 1210 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 2: get robbin Hood. You don't got robin Hoodie fronk, get 1211 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: robbin Hood. You know what I'm saying. Go down to 1212 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 2: Deep Dive. 1213 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 4: Go on bar Chart, go on Bloomberg, nw CNBC. See 1214 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 4: what's going on. 1215 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 2: Tapping Wall Street, Will. 1216 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 4: Street, trapping on your leisure Chris Sane Stock brother. 1217 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 2: Uh, you know what I mean. 1218 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 4: These are pages that I follow. You know what I'm saying, people, 1219 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 4: brothers who have educated me. Shout out to Shout out 1220 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 4: to Troit, Shout the nineteen Keys. 1221 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1222 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 4: But like it's just serious, Like my young people out there, 1223 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 4: like this shit is serious, and it's like the sooner 1224 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 4: you get in, the more, like thankful, you're gonna be 1225 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, I remember when 1226 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 4: bitcoin was at eight thousand, and I was like, that's 1227 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 4: a lot for a stock, But I should have bought 1228 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 4: five of those right now? Was that one hundred and 1229 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 4: fifteen thousand today? And it's going to two hundred and 1230 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 4: after you go to two hundred, it's going to a million. 1231 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 4: So even right now, you should get here, you know 1232 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, you should get in. 1233 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got CEOs right now? 1234 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 4: Who's saying that they put in ten thousand every day 1235 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 4: if they could, if they could sell their company, they 1236 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 4: sell all they shears and put it in bitcoin. I 1237 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,959 Speaker 4: can't tell y'all who said that, but it's a real 1238 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 4: notable billionaire, you know what I'm saying. 1239 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 2: So it's like, yo, we gotta get into it. Man. 1240 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 4: Like when they want to hide shit from us, it's 1241 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 4: like they just kind of make it intricate to obtain. 1242 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We gotta get it, we 1243 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 2: gotta find it. 1244 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: It's out there giving you this game. Because he don't 1245 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,720 Speaker 1: want to be lonely no more. Yeah, I don't. I don't. 1246 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to be lonely. I don't. 1247 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1248 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 4: And by the way, you know, I want to talk 1249 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 4: about that a little bit too, So Lonely at the 1250 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 4: Top is also homage to one of my favorite Gang 1251 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 4: Star songs, which is Moment of Truth, and like you know, 1252 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 4: I kind of do a vocal interpolation of it on 1253 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 4: my self titled track Lonely at the Top on the album, 1254 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 4: and it's just like those that's always been one of 1255 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 4: the songs to me that has resonated deep in my 1256 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 4: hip hop heart, like recipes the Guru and you know, 1257 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 4: just what that means to me is like when you 1258 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 4: get to the pinnacle of your success in your life, 1259 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 4: you will find that it is lonely. You will find 1260 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 4: that a lot of the people that you try to 1261 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 4: bring with you on that journey are like no longer 1262 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 4: kind of standing around you. Like sometimes like I feel like, 1263 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 4: you know, connecting it to survivor's guilt, or connecting it 1264 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 4: to like, you know, the deep self reflection that you have, 1265 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 4: or even the isolation that might be necessary for you 1266 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 4: to get to a certain type of point because certain. 1267 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 2: People or energy will hold you back. 1268 00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying from you being at the 1269 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 4: top your game, you being your best self, you know 1270 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:02,959 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 1271 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: So that's what the title means. 1272 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 4: It means for me because I want to I just 1273 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 4: wanted to address that because I have seen people be like. 1274 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 2: At the top of what, Like, what are you at 1275 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: the top of? You know what I'm saying. 1276 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 4: Successful, It's crazy. It's like, bro, like you should see 1277 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 4: my house, you know what. You wouldn't know what I'm 1278 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 4: on top of, you know what I mean, Like you 1279 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 4: can't live in my neighborhood, you know what I mean. 1280 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 2: So, but yeah, just. 1281 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 1: Why dark Oregon? So everything I'm hearing you speak speaks 1282 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 1: to light, it speaks to bright Oh yeah, leaning into 1283 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 1: the shadow. 1284 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 2: It's a balance, you know, it's a balance. 1285 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 4: And I'm actually glad you brought that up because this project, 1286 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 4: I feel like, is a balanced project. 1287 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: Like it all exists all at once. 1288 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I'm gonna talk with light, but then 1289 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 4: you're gonna see the Joey and the sneaker store throwing 1290 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 4: them up acutz because it's like, you know, sometimes it's cold, 1291 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 4: you gotta defend yourself, well, you gotta, you gotta stand 1292 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 4: up for yourself if you will, and sometimes that's gonna 1293 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 4: take you to a dark player. It's all necessary, It's 1294 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 4: all part of the journey. 1295 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1296 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 4: You can't just be like, how would you even know 1297 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 4: what light is if you ain't know what dark was? 1298 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1299 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, Joey Badass Lonely at the top drops August 1300 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty ninth. Goodness see my brother man, Keep growing, man, 1301 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: keep evolving, King. 1302 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 2: Absol, thank you for having me today. 1303 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: It's the breakfast club. Hold up every day. I waiting 1304 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: pack your ass up the Breakfast Club. Y'all finish or 1305 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: y'all done.