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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now. Thanks for being here with us, everybody. A

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Speaker 2: couple of things to put on your radar. First off,

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Speaker 2: national debt today topping thirty three trillion dollars. Sounds like

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Speaker 2: a lot of money to me. This is a problem, folks.

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Speaker 2: It's the problem that our political system is unwilling, certainly

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Speaker 2: to fix in any meaningful way. I know there's discussions

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Speaker 2: about a continuing resolution right now for the budget and

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Speaker 2: a government shutdown and all that we've been through this

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Speaker 2: too many times. The government will not be shut down.

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Speaker 2: They will extend the funding and people, you can't even

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Speaker 2: get anyone's attention focused on this for more than a

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Speaker 2: few minutes because everyone, I think recognizes that reality.

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Speaker 1: We got the householding the first impeachment inquiry.

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Speaker 2: Next Thursday. We'll discuss or we discussed that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back into it later. US Trump will be

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Speaker 2: skipping the debate next week and instead is going to

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Speaker 2: hold a rally with auto workers in Detroit. As you know,

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Speaker 2: there are strikes right now the auto industry, the unions

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Speaker 2: trying to negotiate the usual stuff, better wages and benefits.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it revolving are also around the electric

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Speaker 2: car industry and how that will be competitive or whether

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Speaker 2: it will be competitive in the future. So Trump going

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Speaker 2: to do that, Clay, we can talk about the decision

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Speaker 2: to skip the debate in a few First off, though,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to let everyone hear this because I think

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Speaker 2: this is an issue that the more people understand, the

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Speaker 2: more they will be furious at the Biden administration for

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Speaker 2: what is a clear dereliction of duty.

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Speaker 1: We are told in so many ways in this country.

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Speaker 2: That you have to obey the law, the laws, the law,

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Speaker 2: even though laws can be so complicated at the federal

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Speaker 2: level that you'll have different attorneys have different interpretations of them.

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Speaker 2: And this has been a problem for a long time.

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Speaker 2: We have an enormously complicated legal system on many issues.

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Speaker 2: On immigration, we have a llegal system that is complicated

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Speaker 2: by the fact that the federal government decides that the

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Speaker 2: laws no longer count immigration law doesn't really matter. And

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Speaker 2: I know they say, oh, but what about this, and

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Speaker 2: they'll point to all these things. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, you have millions and millions of people who

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Speaker 2: are in the country without legal permission to be here.

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Speaker 2: You have millions more who have entered. The number right now, Clay,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be something over six million, I think

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Speaker 2: is a good estimate. In three years of Biden, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about we're talking about three million, I'm sorry, two

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Speaker 2: million a year over three years on average, not going

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Speaker 2: to get any better. In fact, the numbers look like

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Speaker 2: they're getting as bad in terms of illegal crossings as

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Speaker 2: they've ever been. Here is Bill Malugit over at Fox News,

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Speaker 2: Clay announcing over just the last few days, how many

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Speaker 2: encounters meaning people being detained at the border because they've

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Speaker 2: entered illegally. Did they see play This is from Custins

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Speaker 2: and Border Patrol play it.

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Speaker 3: But you're getting some new staggering numbers from our CBP

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Speaker 3: contacts telling us that between Friday and Monday, there were

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Speaker 3: over thirty five thousand migrant encounters at our southern border.

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Speaker 1: You do the math on that.

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Speaker 3: That's almost nine thousand every single day. Astronomical numbers approaching

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Speaker 3: record highs.

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Speaker 2: Clay, approaching record highs. Thirty five thousand people. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a pretty good sized sports arena full of people who

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Speaker 2: A lot of them will end up in major cities

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Speaker 2: recognize this is an active decision that they've made to

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Speaker 2: allow this scam of asylum seeking to continue. And by

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Speaker 2: the time that people will be able to cast judgment

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Speaker 2: in next November on this process, I know about it.

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Speaker 2: We're probably gonna have eight million people who've entered the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was and I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 4: it Sunday in the New York Times, Buck, I think

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Speaker 4: it was a front page article about the Darien Gap,

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Speaker 4: And for people out there who don't really understand what

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Speaker 4: Darien Gap was this supposedly almost impossible, true traverse area

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Speaker 4: of the Darien Gap. Now they have built an entire

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Speaker 4: They're not military, but it's like a game basically, and

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Speaker 4: they provide security. But you have to pay a fee

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Speaker 4: to traverse the Darien Gap and they'll there are different

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Speaker 4: filled with hundreds of thousands of people now that are

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Speaker 2: And I think about this and what the incentives are

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Speaker 2: for people. Let's say, just and there are illegals coming

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Speaker 2: in from all over the world, one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: let's say a migrant. You know, one of the one

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Speaker 2: of the countries where we've had a fair number of

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Speaker 2: there's different Some countries are under a special you know,

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Speaker 2: think that was in Central America a few countries for

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Speaker 2: but let's just generally speaking, if you're from a South

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Speaker 2: and you have no tie into America and no family

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Speaker 2: here already. You can try to go through the legal

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Speaker 2: immigration process and it will take you years and you

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Speaker 2: may be unsuccessful, or you can do what you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: where you just get into America. And under the Biden administration,

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Speaker 2: there is no notion of punishment or there's nothing punitive

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Speaker 2: about entering the country illegally. Now you will not be detained,

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Speaker 2: even though you're in the country illegally. It is appalling

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Speaker 2: what is going on. It is contrary where he's told

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Speaker 2: like taxes, for example, on immigration. This stuff is being

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Speaker 2: And you brought up the system that people have set

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Speaker 2: up to get here. It's big business for the cartels now,

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Speaker 2: even saying if you add it all up, it gets

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Speaker 2: selling fentol, right, and you know fental Obviously.

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Speaker 4: They say that cartel traversing of the border, to put

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Speaker 4: There is more revenue being produced. This is not talking

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Speaker 4: about drugs. On the illegal crossing of the border. The

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Speaker 4: cartels make more money than the NFL teams do combined.

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Speaker 4: Like they're talking about as big as you know, NFL

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Speaker 2: And over the weekend there were videos circulating online, different

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Speaker 2: this Daily Mail had this of freight trains coming up

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Speaker 2: these videos, single adult males who are on their way

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Speaker 2: So you know, the visualization of a think of you know,

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Speaker 2: and a freight train. You know, those freight trains can

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Speaker 2: Imagine a freight train where in every single car there

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Speaker 2: are I mean, I'm looking at the photos right now,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're talking about you know, twenty people, thirty

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Speaker 2: and they're all just getting ready to get into the country,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing we should add on the incentive

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Speaker 4: structure jobs is one if you come here and you

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Speaker 4: have it, because this article about the Darien gap, there

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Speaker 4: are women who are pregnant that disab they are going

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Speaker 4: incentive structures matter. And I want everybody out there to

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Speaker 4: pretend that you are in Venezuela. You are a part

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Speaker 4: of the broken socialist system of Maduro. There's probably a

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Speaker 4: decent chance that you have family or friends who live

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And if you knew that you had family living in

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Speaker 4: the United States, this land of milk and honey, and

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Speaker 4: all that it took was you getting to the southern

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Speaker 4: wouldn't you do everything in your power to get here.

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you if I were Venezuelan

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Speaker 4: I was talking to them on the phone and they

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Speaker 4: were saying, you know, I'm making forty x what I

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Speaker 4: and I've now got an American citizen son or daughter.

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Speaker 4: This is a no brainer. And this is why Buck,

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Speaker 4: I think there needs to be a serious conversation. We

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Speaker 4: have to have this conversation birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 2: Trump said he was going to end it in his

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Speaker 2: first term, and he said he was going to end

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Speaker 2: in his first term. He says he will end it

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Speaker 2: in his second term. He did not end it in

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Speaker 2: his first term. Okay, but I hear hardly anybody talking

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Speaker 2: about it to me.

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Speaker 4: With this debate coming up on September twenty seventh, I

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Speaker 4: think this is a situation, and again, a lot of

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Speaker 4: people don't want to even think about this. The argument

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Speaker 4: for birthright citizenship. I'm not talking about if you are

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Speaker 4: serving overseas in Germany, your kids should certainly be.

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Speaker 2: Of course, that is what the law says, subject to

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Speaker 2: the jurisdiction thereof meaning you are a US subject abroad.

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Speaker 2: You are not somebody who is a foreigner who comes here.

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Speaker 1: This the birthway.

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Speaker 1: If you're born there, you become a citizen. Well, you

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Speaker 2: That kids an American, very straightforward, otherwise you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: That's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like go back even Rena Reagan

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Speaker 4: You say that your wife's the neonatal burt nurse and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a neonatal nurse practitioner. She was in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not. This is thank you for the call.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, we got we gotta hit a time here, Buck,

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Speaker 4: But you know, how are you going to kick somebody's

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Speaker 2: It turned from DACA to DAPPA very quickly, which was

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here, team.

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Speaker 2: We have the news today that Ray Epps, who was

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Speaker 4: Phase with the I basically the bare minimum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is if you are going to create a

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Speaker 1: This is from NBC News.

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Speaker 2: ten years is nineteen years, I think is the highest

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Speaker 2: they're serving. They're serving the full thing at least, and

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Speaker 2: maybe if you've got a future Republican president it could

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Speaker 2: come along. But they're on track to serve years and

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Speaker 2: years in federal prison and to see people who are

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Speaker 2: like I said before, Clayton.

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Speaker 1: Oh immigration, if people don't even realize this.

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Speaker 2: If you enter the country illegally, okay, and then you

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Speaker 2: re enter which happens all the time under statute, that's

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Speaker 2: a felony.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to go to prison for that.

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Speaker 5: They don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't enforce that.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I thought the law is the law.

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Speaker 2: You know, the law is not the law anymore. This

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Speaker 2: is what everyone's seeing you see this with January sixth stuff,

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Speaker 2: people who if it wasn't tied to Trump, but if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't the insurrection or all this, you know, parading

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Speaker 2: without a license. People are getting six months in prison

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Speaker 2: or sixty days in prison or whatever for these kinds

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Speaker 2: of things. You've got to be I would say, you

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Speaker 2: gotta be kidding, But obviously no, it's not a joke.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's incredibly serious. I think you can.

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Speaker 4: Look at the videos of the violent acts that were

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Speaker 4: taking place outside of the White House by BLM protesters

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Speaker 4: when they had to move Trump down in the basement.

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Speaker 1: And remember all the media was like.

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Speaker 4: Aha, look at Trump, he's afraid, and then when January

467
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Speaker 4: six happens, they're like, oh, we're very fortunate that everyone

468
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Speaker 4: wasn't murdered, Yeah by what like the shaman with the stick? Like,

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Speaker 4: come on, this was all exaggerated. I think it's an

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Speaker 4: interesting question buck. If January sixth doesn't happen, right, you

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Speaker 4: could still have the rally, but there's no like storming

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Speaker 4: of the capital, right that legitimately never happens. What do

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Speaker 4: the polls look like right now for Trump the Biden.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: The way that they have used and positioned all the

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Speaker 2: January six stuff. And this is why when people keep

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Speaker 2: comparing I'm sorry, but comparing, you know, looking at the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election and thinking you can just extrapolate a

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Speaker 2: straight line to twenty twenty four. That's not true in

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Speaker 2: any election. Yeah, but the January six stuff happened after,

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Speaker 2: after the twenty twenty eight, Yes, which means that this

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Speaker 2: needs to be factored in and they need to take

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Speaker 2: this narrative head on. You need to explain to people

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Speaker 2: the ways that this is being misrepresented and being magnified

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Speaker 2: for political purposes, because I think it's I think this

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Speaker 2: is that I've been saying all along. Democrats are going

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Speaker 2: to run nothing but January six footage for the three

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Speaker 2: to six months leading up to the presidential election of

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's nominee. That's going to be the whole playbook.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'm sitting here thinking, and obviously hindsight

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Speaker 4: is twenty twenty, we're Monday Morning quarterbacking the Trump response.

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Speaker 4: If Trump comes out and says this election was rigged,

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Speaker 4: which I think anyone with a functional brain who has

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Speaker 4: looked at the data, we can debate exactly how much

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Speaker 4: the rigging was, but just based on the Hunter Biden laptop,

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Speaker 4: refusing to cover it, the fact that they changed voting

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Speaker 4: laws in so many states and use COVID as the excuse,

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Speaker 4: just based off that the rig was in effect. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I think there's no argument if Trump had just said

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Speaker 4: that they rigged the election.

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Speaker 1: This is BSh.

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Speaker 4: I am running against Joe Biden and I'm gonna kick

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Speaker 4: his ass and not even allow them to rig it

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. And that's his full statement, right.

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Speaker 4: He just keeps hammering that over and over and over again.

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Speaker 4: How much is Trump up right now over Biden? My

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Speaker 4: argument to you would be that Biden's entire campaign, to

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Speaker 4: your point, Buck, is going to rely on what happened,

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Speaker 4: not even hardly while Trump was president. They're going to

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Speaker 4: focus on the response to the twenty twenty election as

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Speaker 4: their primary because what do you run against on Trump?

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Speaker 4: Otherwise COVID? Biden was worse on COVID, Like what would

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Speaker 4: you attend? Like the action is what I always say

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Speaker 4: to people out there, This is what I would encourage

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Speaker 4: you to say to your you know, suburban college educated friends, who.

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Speaker 1: What did Trump do poorly?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 4: Actual results not tweets you didn't like, not answers to

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Speaker 4: questions you didn't like, the actual specific performance of him

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Speaker 4: in office. I think all they can focus on is

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Speaker 4: the post election mess. But the actual presidency, what can

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Speaker 4: you even point to? Well, the my concern here is

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Speaker 4: we're going to see how effective that can. That's where

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Speaker 4: he's going is going to be.

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Speaker 2: Because it's this, This is why I think they're holding

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Speaker 2: back on it too. So when people are saying, look

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Speaker 2: at the polls now, look at the polls now, they

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Speaker 2: are waiting for this. They're waiting for Trump to become

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Speaker 2: the nominee and then they're going to run January sixth

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Speaker 2: stuff on. They did it in the lead up to

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Speaker 2: the midterm election and Trump wasn't even on the ballot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and if you look at the numbers, it was effective

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Speaker 2: in a number of very important races. You know, election

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty slash January sixth stuff, you know election denyer stuff,

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Speaker 2: they called it. So we have to address that narrative

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Speaker 2: and counter it, I think very clearly. And I think

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Speaker 2: part of that comes from Trump himself by saying, like,

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Speaker 2: look he said it. I'm not saying he didn't say it,

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Speaker 2: but to keep repeating. First of all, he needs to

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Speaker 2: focus on immigration a lot more. Okay, that's part one.

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Speaker 2: If if the Trump people are listening to me, Trump

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Speaker 2: needs to be out there. He won in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: because of his stance on immigration. He needs to bring

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Speaker 2: back his immigration you know, focus and monstraus. He should

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Speaker 2: go to the border, absolutely right, he should go to

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Speaker 2: the border. And you know, could you imagine the footage

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Speaker 2: if you get Trump just there as It's not hard.

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Speaker 2: I've been there and been the same thing. Hundreds of

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Speaker 2: people just walk across. They walk across the border like

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Speaker 2: there is no border, correct and border patrol shows up.

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Speaker 1: You probably think border patrol rolls up there and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you guys are It's like, all right, guys, let's

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Speaker 2: go here, we go, put you in a van, let's

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Speaker 2: get you sandwiches, let's get make sure anyone have any illnesses,

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Speaker 2: you know, and border patrols on is effectively on a

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Speaker 2: humanitarian mission every day for all the illegals who cross it.

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Speaker 1: That's what's actually happening.

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Speaker 4: If Trump got out, if Trump took Trump Force one

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Speaker 4: to Eagle Pass, I mean a lot of the Trump people,

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Speaker 4: I mean and by the way. I would say this

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Speaker 4: for DeSantis, I would say this for Nikki Haley. I

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Speaker 4: would say this for vivik Ramaswami. Why wouldn't you take

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Speaker 4: your campaign directly to the border right now and go

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Speaker 4: right into Eagle Pass and have press conferences right there

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Speaker 4: and say I'm doing what Joe Biden will not do.

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Speaker 2: Have we seen has anyone gone to New York City

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Speaker 2: of any of the Republican candidates to walk around and

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Speaker 2: see what the migrant crisis is really like and see

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Speaker 2: what these refugee camps that they're setting up are really

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Speaker 2: like and what is going on. There's a real opportunity because, folks,

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Speaker 2: it goes to everything. It goes to the economy, it

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Speaker 2: goes to sovereignty, it goes to rule of law, goes

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Speaker 2: to you know, what is this country that we all

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Speaker 2: live in? If you don't have borders, what is the country?

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Speaker 4: And if you're going to try to argue that people

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Speaker 4: who walked in the capital with selfie sticks on January

578
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Speaker 4: sixth need to be going to prison four months, American citizens,

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Speaker 4: your fellow citizens, how in the world are you not

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Speaker 4: focused on the border If you're going to argue that

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Speaker 4: that crime I mean to me it all ties in.

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Speaker 4: I would be on the plane right now headed to

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Speaker 4: Ego Pass, Texas if I were a presidential candidate running

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Speaker 4: on the Republican side, because I don't even think you

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Speaker 4: need to again just go after Biden a this is

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Speaker 4: the issue that Biden is weakest on. Trump's been smart.

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Speaker 4: He went to East Palestine. I think he should have

588
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Speaker 4: gone to Maui and shown up there before Biden did.

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Speaker 4: I would be running right now if I were Trump,

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Speaker 4: as if you are already the president of the United States,

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Speaker 4: you have the resources with Trump Force one, you can

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Speaker 4: just get on there and and fly in and out

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Speaker 4: on the same day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't be there.

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Speaker 2: You know, here's I know we gotta go a break.

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Speaker 2: But just my concern is that if this election turns

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Speaker 2: into a referendum on the legal woes of Trump versus

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Speaker 2: the Biden crime family, hunter Biden saga, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how that shakes out. Yeah, but if it turns into

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Speaker 2: a who would be better for the economy, for the border,

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Speaker 2: for national security, for Ukraine, for crime in cities, And

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Speaker 2: that's when we can win.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As we

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Speaker 4: The Thursday edition Tuesday edition of the program, I wanted

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Speaker 4: to hit you with this. Buck mel Tucker has issued

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Speaker 4: a statement the head coach at Michigan State, now that

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Speaker 4: he is being fired for non consensual phone sex, would

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Speaker 4: he have him on the show?

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Speaker 1: Would he come on the show? You think? I'll text

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Speaker 1: him and see if he wants.

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Speaker 4: I think his I think his lawyers because there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a huge wallsuit.

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Speaker 2: I hope he shoes the you know what out of

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Speaker 2: the Michigan it's Michigan State, right, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get this run, not the other one, not Michigan, michianver State. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's Michigan State.

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Speaker 4: Yet, he says, let me be clear, I don't believe

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Speaker 4: Michigan State plans to fire me because I admitted to

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Speaker 4: an entirely consensual private relationship with another adult who gave

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Speaker 4: one presentation at Michigan State at my behest over two

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Speaker 4: years ago. A cursory reading of the facts in timeline

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Speaker 4: should cause any fair minded person to conclude that other

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Speaker 4: motives are at play, and he says again, only after

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Speaker 4: this woman and potentially others leaked the confidential investigation did

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Speaker 4: they suddenly decide to fire me?

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Speaker 1: And he says this is.

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Speaker 4: A completely consensual adult relationship and that they are they

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Speaker 4: are buying into. I mean, he issued a really detailed

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Speaker 4: full statement basically called and again. I think what's important here,

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Speaker 4: And I understand some of you out there are like, well,

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Speaker 4: why are you paying attention to this? I think this

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Speaker 4: is emblematic of what the me too government movement has launched.

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Speaker 4: That we saw Brett Kavanaugh get caught up in that

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Speaker 4: Russell brand right now has caught up in YouTube, has decided,

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Speaker 4: based on the allegations against him, that he's no longer

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Speaker 4: able to monetize his content on the website. Think about

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Speaker 4: what we're what he's getting fired for here. It is

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Speaker 4: that not as an allegation of a non consensual phone call.

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Speaker 4: Like we're not even talking about allegations of improper contact

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Speaker 4: of sexual assault. We're talking about what is alleged to

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Speaker 4: be a non consensual phone sex call that lasted thirty

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Speaker 4: six minutes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and again, unless there is professional coercion involved

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Speaker 2: here that no one's saying. This is not even the

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Speaker 2: criminal realm, right, this would be entirely in this in

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Speaker 2: the civil realm, unless you know, he's her boss and

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Speaker 2: says you better stay on this phone call or else where.

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Speaker 2: That's implied in some way. She's not even employee of

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Speaker 2: the universe, the whole of the college or the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: She gave one speech at the university several years ago,

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Speaker 4: she is not an employee. And he says these are

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Speaker 4: false allegations that that Michigan State doesn't care about his rights,

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Speaker 4: the truth or future liability for policing it's employees' private lives.

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Speaker 2: What a person Clay looks at this story in a

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Speaker 2: position of authority at Michigan State and doesn't recognize just

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Speaker 2: how absurd the whole thing is, You know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: It's frightening to me that people like that exist in

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Speaker 2: positions of authority in this country.

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Speaker 4: Well, the one thing that I should mention that is

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Speaker 4: not out there, that that you know, is at least

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Speaker 4: worth contemplating. I do think she, this accuser took advantage

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Speaker 4: of the environment at Michigan State. Buck, because remember the

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Speaker 4: Larry Nasser situation, where this doctor at Michigan State was

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Speaker 4: accused of sexual assault. I think the university and she

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Speaker 4: knew this when she made these allegations, is so afraid

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Speaker 4: of what happened with Larry Nasser that any allegation of

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Speaker 4: sexual assault I give completely unconnected. I agree, but I

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Speaker 4: think she's playing on them being weak and worried about

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Speaker 4: public relations, partly based on that too,