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Like I've been making 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.920 beats for ten years so well, because like what the 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.679 first Migo shit that you were a part of it 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.440 was twenty four. I mean that was like eight years ago. Goddamn. Yeah, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.320 I mean we're kind of in the Murder Beats decade 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.440 here kind of. Yeah, man, it's kind of crazy. Well, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:46.640 welcome man. Yeah, I feel like it's long overdue. Shout 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:52.040 out to the new record with Wale and Blast. Kind 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.320 of like a different type of vibe for you as 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.280 far as like just what we're used to hearing, like 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.280 a Murder Beats tag on what was your inspiration? Obously 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:01.480 you're out here in La so I'm sure I mean 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.799 you hear Blast every Yeah I do. I'm a fan 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.960 of Blast, you know what I'm saying. So I was 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.680 actually six months ago, I was in Miami working with 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.919 Rick Ross. We were at Circle House. You know what 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.359 I'm saying. I love Circle House. Yeah. So I was 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.200 cooking up some shit kind of the beat. The record 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.720 kind of sounds like a Miami tropic hood does kind 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.600 of sound like a feel good record. So someone was like, Yo, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:21.840 you want to meet Blast. I was like, yeah, bring 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.000 him in the studio. He came in the studio and 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.760 I met him. I like pulled up that beat. He 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.840 banged it out quick. I was like, this shit fire 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.600 and then Walle was in the other room. I went 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.560 and grab all A. He wrote his verse, did it quick. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.440 And then I was like, man, I'm taking this one. Wow. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.720 All in Miami, Yeah, wow, crazy, Like one day shout 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.480 out to Circle House for people who don't know, it's 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.400 like a house in a neighborhood in Miami. Circle House 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.400 that's like a renowned studio that you would never even 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.720 know was there if you never know normal ass Like 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.320 it's just a it's like a really nice house with 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.320 studios in it. Yeah, it's literally just like a normal 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.440 crib and like a normal neighborhood. And you know, how 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.119 did you Okay? So like you kind of obviously got 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.280 introduced in the game, at least from my understanding. When 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.800 I first started hearing you was through the Migos. What 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.880 was your initial introduction with them? Being a kid from 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.720 Canada being it at that time the Migos were active 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.520 out here because I lived in Tampa when the Migos 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.719 started to pop and them, dudes, was they was really 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.680 out here. They were really out here, do mad shows, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.840 had their mcm bags on, fucking shootouts and ship all 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.720 kinds of crazy shit was popping off. But how did this? 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.080 How did those two worlds connect? So I just connected 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:30.919 with them on Twitter like that. I was hitting up 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.480 everyone on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, I was just hitting people up. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:35.920 So I just like hit up one of their boys. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.560 I was like, yo, play play some of the play 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:39.960 some of my beats for them, and I'm going to 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.560 give you some beats to rap on. At the time, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.880 this guy wasn't even rapping. He was like, I'm actually 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.320 engineering them, So send the pack. I sent the pack 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.760 and then from there, you know what I'm saying, that easy. Yeah, 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.760 it's crazy because nowadays way harder to do that. Think 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.440 about like dming someone like, no one's gonna check your DM. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.960 It's crazy. That's where like people always ask me for 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.320 advice and stuff. I'm like, I don't even know what 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.400 kind of advice give somebody, because what worked for me, 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.160 it's going to be hard to work for someone else. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.240 Back in the day, like there wasn't a lot of 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.120 people trying to be a producer. It wasn't cool to 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.359 be in music. It was very like unrealistic, so everyone 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.839 kind of like stayed away from it. So like, but 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.760 like with the Internet and how the Internet was working 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.000 and stuff, I used that to my advantage because like 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.520 I was just a kid from Canada. I'm from a 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.960 town of thirty thousand people, like what part of Canada, Like, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.800 I'm from like Niagara region, So it's like, yeah, just 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.080 outside of Niagara Fall. While you're a Buffalo fan, you 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.000 know what I'm saying. There we go. So like I 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.040 was like, I grew up on the border of Buffalo 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.520 and a small town thirty thousand people. So I've been 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.600 to Buffalo. It's a pretty fucking wild place. It is 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.760 pretty wild. I'm not gonna lie. It's very like when 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.480 I went there and like hung out with Conway and 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.440 uh and Westside Gun and I was like I get 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.200 it now, I get why you guys are real shit 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.039 rap about the shit you wrap about, because that shit 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.760 looked like it's like the it's the poorest part of America. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.200 I was gonna say, when I think of Cleveland in 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.160 my head, and then I went to Buffalo. I've never 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:55.640 been to Cleveland, but I was like, this is what 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.440 I'm when I think of Cleveland, I think of this, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.000 but it's Buffalo. So when I first started going to Chicago, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.000 I was like, and we were in the wild one hundreds, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.160 the South sidn all like these crazy plays you be 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.520 hearing about. I'm like, this shit looks just like Buffalo. Yeah, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.720 Buffalo's crazy. So I went back to Buffalo like damn, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.080 like you know, but funny story about Conway and them, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:13.880 I was like, I used to go to Buffalo first, 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.440 trying to like go to America, get my get my producer, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.160 sit up, you know what I'm saying. I used to 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:19.960 go pull up on them, and I pulled up on 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.680 Conway in the studio one day and his boy tried 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.960 to buy my drums on me for like fifty bucks. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.880 I remember, just just like like your file of drum 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.880 like I was just playing. Be's like your drums are hard, man, Yeah, 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.360 It's like, can I buy him like, I'm like, shit, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.880 I'm watching like fifty bucks. I'm like no, not even 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.560 like two fifties, like one's seventy five or some shot 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.919 like was it Darrenger? Nah? I think it was DJ 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.720 sha rip Oh shout out to DJ Shay rest in peace. Man, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.560 Shae's a legend for sure. It's crazy, Yo, that's wild. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.040 Did you ever end up having any records with Conway 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.000 or Ben or any of those guys? Yeah? I did. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.040 I did a record on Kanye on Conway's last album, 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.600 Oh you did, that's right, called Anzia Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.960 So and that was just because like I'm like, man, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.680 we gotta do some shit. We still got to do 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.800 more shit, like just Finny all these guys just for 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.720 the region God to do some shit. It's so crazy too, 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.280 because being on the Canada side of that border, it's 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.040 a lot easier for you to go back and forth. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.240 I got people who are like, you know, some of 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:16.800 some of the homies who are part of BSF for 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.240 or Garzlle, They're like, man, we've lived in Buffalo our 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:20.880 whole lives, and we can't even go to fucking Canada. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.520 We've never even been into Canada. Yeah, that's probably because 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.880 they you know, they got felon the same thing with 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.280 me though. It's like if I got a duy, I 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.640 wouldn't be able to come to America. Really, if I 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.400 had a misdemeanor, I wouldn't be able to come to America. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.320 Like did you go to like did you grow up 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.000 going to Buffalo a lot to go to games Man? 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.200 People people people from Canada go to Buffalo to get 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.520 fill up their tank of gas because gas is cheaper, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.960 go to the store to get groceries because y'all got 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.160 way more fucking brands and everything. Like so like it's 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.000 like when you're living on a border town, people go 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.840 to Buffalo or America all the time. That's like here 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.400 like border towns, Like people will go to Mexico to 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.440 get medicine. Do you want or some shit, Because medicine 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.920 you don't need a prescription to get like a z 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:00.840 pac out here, you need a Christians You just go 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.280 over to Mexico and just get viagra for like twenty dollars. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:08.040 You know. Yeah, there's people where everyone's fucking teeth. All 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.120 these rappers with their teeth, they're usually going to Mexico 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.240 to get them things. Done. Yeah, I've been. I've only 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.800 been to Mexico one time. I went. Uh. I DJed 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.080 a New Year's party in Cancun like last year during COVID. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.240 Did you enjoy it? It was? It was pretty lit, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.080 but it was like during like the crazy peak of COVID, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.440 it was like, I don't know if we should go. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.720 I don't know what we should be doing this. It 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.840 might be a bad look, you might get shamed. Yeah, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.520 you know what I'm saying. But it was fun. Are 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.280 you you go back home a lot a little bit. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.040 I haven't been in like two years since COVID. Rap 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.920 about to say it's probably a I mean because they 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.719 pretty much shut the ship down. It Yeah, it was 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.480 shutting down, opening up, shutting down. Raptors had to play 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.840 in Tampa last year. That was crazy, Like what the 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.360 fuck is going on? I wanted to go to some 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.160 games I never did. That's what I wish they would 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.280 have did limited edition like Tampa Bay Raptor jerseys. That'd 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:53.880 be hard. That would have been hard drop as an 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.000 NFT you know, yeah, that would have been crazy to 0:08:56.040 --> 0:09:00.280 the Raptors. So let's talk about your tag, cause you 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.360 have one of the more iconic tags in hip hop. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.840 Uh and I always say, you know, I had a 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.520 conversation with hit Boy and Hippoy was saying for the 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.000 longest time he didn't have a tag, and I kind 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.640 of heard him because you know, we think of like 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.559 hit Boy as like one of the more legendary producers 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.720 of all time, but some of his biggest hit boys 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.120 don't have his name on him as you know, So 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.120 he started using a tag. Your tag is very iconic 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.559 at this point, how did you find your tag? Like 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.440 like kind of break down the story of how you 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.400 got your tag. So the the murder on the Beato 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.920 is not nice tag? Me and Boka shout out Tobacca, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.520 shout out to Bacca. We were we were like recording 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.200 in Toronto and then like he just said that on 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.679 the track and I was like, I should kind of 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.400 use that. Then one day Sunny Digital was in Toronto 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.160 and I was like, yo, like should I use this 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.480 to the tag? And I played the song He's like 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.160 you should, you should try it out, and then started 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:45.680 using it and then Drake told me to put it 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.600 on everything from there on them That's all it came about. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.000 And now it but like my old mamma murder tag. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.520 I got that ship, like I like bought it off 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.319 some guy on the internet for like twenty bucks. He 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.679 like made it for me, and I wanted that because 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.640 I was on mixtapes and shiit what I'm saying. So 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.800 when you're listening to a mixtape, no label, to some 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.600 old kind of mixtape, you listen, you hear my tag, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.120 you'd see produced by Murder. That's what was driving like 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.000 beat sales. People will hit me up on Twitter whatever, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.000 like yo' second advertising. You know what I'm saying. That 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.560 was how I was getting money. So I was trying 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.920 to like promote myself and build my brand. You know, No, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.040 you've done a good job at that when you first 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.960 started to kind of like I always feel like with 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.840 producers now, there's so many different avenues for you to 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.640 be like support yourself as a producer because we always 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.880 think like the placement game is like such a tough 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.439 game if you're an up and coming producer, like chasing placements, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.040 going to the studio, trying to get your beats in 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.240 the right people, especially now too mecaus. Now, it's like 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.600 when I was coming up, there was probably like five 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.920 hundred producers, thousand producers trying to do it on the internet. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.600 Now there's like ten million, it's wild, fifty million literally, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.040 like fifty million kids to do it. So it's like 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:55.840 if you're trying to chase a placement on an album 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.760 and you get that album cut on a big artist, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.440 like how are you supposed to even be the brand 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.480 off that? Right? You know? Like I feel like the 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:07.160 biggest way for a producer to build nowadays is to 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.480 build come up with an artist and build a sound, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.520 you know what I mean? Yeah, Like find an artist 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.160 that you fuck with, do the whole album. Then they 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:17.600 blow up and then you know what I'm saying that, 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.280 I feel like that's like the best way to build 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.920 a brand, yeah, because you build a sound, you know 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.640 what I mean. I think the uh, what's the one 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.839 kid's name, Uh, Logic's producer him, Like Logics producer did 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.920 like all of his shit, and like obviously that dude's 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.800 got Grammy and all that shit. But yeah, and then 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.840 and then you're like associated with an act and like 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.960 that shit goes a long way, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.319 I mean you kind of like in a way kind 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.040 of did that with the Begos early on you know, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.280 you were kind of synonymous with like what they were doing. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.320 Because the thing is with them is like back then, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.320 like they were only fucking with like three four producers 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.000 and I was one of them, or like three to five. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:49.320 They had like a few, you know what I mean, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.920 But like they were not fucking with anyone else's beats, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.439 and like no one could get ahold of them, so 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.360 like you know what I mean, just being a part 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.920 of that was like very exclusive and like everybody wanted 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.240 my beats. What was it like being like a round 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.360 them in Atlanta in like the early years because it 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.440 was fun. It had to be crazy, right, Yeah. It 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.200 was fun though because they're running atl at the time, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.480 They're running the streets. Yeah, they were doing shows, shutting 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.600 clubs down, going crazy. We used to have fun at 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.240 the crib. She was fun. What was the first kind 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.440 of hit that really popped in the club for you 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:20.880 that you did for them? Was it Pipe It Up? 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.160 Emms Smith? Emmitt Smith? That ship was crazy. I remember 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.680 going on the road with them and like seeing it 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.160 on like BT, like on the TV. It was about 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.800 the first time I ever heard my tag on the TV. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.760 I was like, Damn, it's crazy. I had like no money. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.439 Everyone back home thought I was like rich like everyonellions. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.360 Of course. It was like this ship was crazy man, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.880 But Emms Smith, you know what I'm saying. That was 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.719 like the first time I even seen people dabbing a 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.120 music video. That was like when the dab that, they 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.320 were like, oh that was yeah. And then Pipe it 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.959 Up really blew up. The day was crazy, crazy a moment. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.160 That was my first hit though. Pipe It Up was 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.160 like a hit. I remember like playing that ship in 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.920 Florida and radio going crazy, Oh my god, pipe it 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.760 Up was one of them. One I got my first 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.080 like twenty thousand dollars check off that song. Wow, And 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.760 I was like we were like, we made it. That's 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.959 a nice chunk of change. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.240 But we're talking about producers like kind of monetizing their shit. Now. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.400 You know, there's people would still do beat leases, and 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.000 then there's like obviously like I feel like one of 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.720 the more like slept on ways that people find beats. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.719 And I know this because we'll have artists come in 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.200 and they'll be like, yo, yo, here's the YouTube link. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.640 It's like these type beats on YouTube. Hell yeah, A 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.720 lot of upcoming artists and a lot of like made 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.080 artists still be doing that going. They'll type in their 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.520 own name, type beat, make a bunch of songs. You know. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.079 That shit happens a lot. We've had so many artists 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.000 come in be like, y'all want to do a freestyle 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.040 over this, but it's there's some beat on YouTube, and 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.319 then it'll be like their own name type beat, and 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.600 they'll be like, what the fuck do you even know 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.320 this guy? Like na na just fuck with the beat 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.880 on YouTube. I'm like, yeah, that's how I started. I 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.880 used to do type beats. Every producer's type beat on YouTube, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.240 walk a flock of type beats, some dunkin type beats, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.280 all these type beats, and I used to like drive traction, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.920 like when Cheeky was hot, I do you keep type beat? 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:02.480 I had to beat. I remember I had to beat. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.000 It was like two hundred and fifty thousand views and 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.839 shit like that's a lot on a vado. Oh yeah, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.040 So you were kind of like already kind of doing 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.840 your thing a little bit in the producer space. Yeah, 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.800 Like I remember like there was like the Internet producers 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.839 and shit. Yeah, like we were doing our thing and 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.400 then I started like showing like what I looked like 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:18.960 and shit, and I was like, oh shit, like who's this? 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.280 Nobody ever would have thought you looked this way? Yeah, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.920 And then like I feel like that was more like 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.040 a wow, like damn, what the fuck he's from Canada, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.480 Like everyone else kind of just had like their graphic 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.080 up on their on their Twitter and shit. I was like, man, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.360 I want to build my face, caud. I don't want 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.760 people to know what I look like. You know, who 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.320 was with all the people you've worked with, You've worked 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.080 with everyone, Drake, Travis, we can go on, Nikki, et cetera. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.200 As far as like in studio experience whose creative process 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.640 is like the most meticulous where you're just like, yo, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.840 this this is like different because I always hear like 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.520 guys like doctor Dre's creative process is insane, Like he's 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.240 so particular about like the smallest ship. And I've been 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.200 in sessions with artists that like care about ship that 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.840 you wouldn't even like think of, who's that artist that 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.200 you've been in with that's just very over the top 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:09.640 with just caring about the small details them. Hmmm. Probably 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.360 just like I don't know, I feel like a lot 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.560 of artists do, but definitely like the Atlanta artists like Quevo, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.360 the Migos, the Future, I feel like guys that just 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.640 freestyle everything they do. But then like they're also like 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.160 so like aware of like how they're saying it, like 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.400 their tone and like their vocals and shit, Like that's 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.600 pretty crazy, you know what I'm saying. I have this 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.200 thing that I always say about producers, like I mean 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.560 artists and shit, like it's like if they get it 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.360 or they don't get it, and like it's like I 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.200 feel like how like Party could like go in this 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.760 freestyle whole song and it's like incredible, or like Juice 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.440 World could like freestyle whole beat and it would be 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.640 like an incredible song. Win W Melly the same. It's 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.480 like certain artists just got it, Like you know what 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.880 I'm saying, Like like you can just pull up a 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.600 beat for Juice RP or like Melly Party they were 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.760 just going just nigul liarly freestyle the whole beat and 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.920 it's like a finished song. That's crazy. That's incredible. Is 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.480 it a different like when you you're in with a 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.880 producer that does that, that does the punch in thing 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.360 or does the the off the top thing as opposed 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.200 to somebody who writes shit down. I don't even know 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.760 who writes shit down anymore because it feels like most 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.800 people just go in and they do they do the 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.960 melody or do they do the punching thing where they 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.000 punching line by line? Like is there like a big 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.640 difference for you, Like being in the studio actually writes 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.760 one hundred percent. So like it was like a gift 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.120 that occurs with amgos because I was like so young, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.920 I was like nineteen twenty years old working with these 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.560 guys their freestyle and everything, punching in and stuff. And 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.200 then when I started working with other people and people 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.680 were writing, I like didn't have patients in the studio 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.760 for it because it's like it's a much more patience 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.320 like driven process. Yeah, like I could go I could 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.360 go in with Amigos. They could pull a beat half 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.400 of the song done in twenty minutes. I was cooking 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.480 up beats in like thirty minutes twenty minutes, so it 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.400 was like our workflow is so quick, but our chemistry 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.320 was crazy, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.880 then going in with someone who has to sit there 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.280 and write. Some people write for an hour. Some people 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:54.840 aren't as quick with it. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.960 It's not a bad thing. Everyone's creating. It's just a 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.440 different process. I'd just be like, man, what the fuck 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.840 are we doing? Move on to the next record, Like 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.680