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Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different Wednesday. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. But I love this segment of

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Speaker 1: of our show, let's buy the midway. He's not getting

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Speaker 1: the middle with you. It's time for the Midway. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: whole cruise here Jase Tuo, Iowa, Sam dan Byer and myself.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I want to do. I tweeted out

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Speaker 1: earlier today with Howard Stern and his show, I never

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Speaker 1: gets canceled his shows, he didn't get re upped. I

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Speaker 1: who knows. And I would love Jace Dou, I would

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Speaker 1: love for you to share what you showed me when

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Speaker 1: you knew this was coming two days ago and I

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Speaker 1: didn't hear it. I didn't know. But I just want

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Speaker 1: to talk about who does what best because I think

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Speaker 1: that that Stern the bits are what made him famous,

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Speaker 1: right the Bubba Buie and you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the nudities and it wasn't even sexual innuendo. Like I thought.

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Speaker 1: The show got a lot less clever when he went

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Speaker 1: off of Trust Your Radio because they were just things

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Speaker 1: I thought when he got off of Trust Your Radio,

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Speaker 1: he showed incredible chops as the interviewer. And I bring

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Speaker 1: it up because I love the way he takes people

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Speaker 1: what I tweeted was that Howard Shurn's the best long

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Speaker 1: form interviewer. I think Dan Patrick's the best in sports radio.

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Speaker 1: And what happens is you have people that are frankly

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Speaker 1: not very smart or don't understand the profession. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that Dan is the perfect radio host or the

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Speaker 1: best radio host. I think the best thing he does

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Speaker 1: is interview people's he listens. He's unbelievably quick. Everybody knows him,

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Speaker 1: so there's kind of automack respect given to him. But

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Speaker 1: he's he's great with with how he does it. And

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Speaker 1: when you're doing it live on radio, it's a skill

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Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, when you have you can

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Speaker 1: not take breaks for an hour and you'r Howard Stern,

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Speaker 1: it's a different skill. Is there anybody else you, guys

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Speaker 1: would throw in that mix of best interviewers?

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Speaker 2: Are we talking? Because there's some television ones that that

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Speaker 1: Out radio audio? Let's just do audio.

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Speaker 2: Well, guys, then I'm I'm out. I'm at.

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Speaker 1: You don't listen to sports radio or or or talk

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Speaker 2: U No, not satellite. I don't have satellite radio, so

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Speaker 1: Are you anymore? Jay ste Do you any other any

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Speaker 1: other and others you would like to volunteer their names

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Speaker 1: for Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 3: Joe Rogan can hold a listener's attention for a three

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Speaker 3: enough to give him stuff. There's also a lot of

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Speaker 3: I was in my orbit. I know, I told you

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Speaker 3: leading up to the election. I said I would if

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Speaker 3: I were you listen to Trump's interview with Rogan. And

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Speaker 3: automatically people are like, I've never listened to anything that

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Speaker 3: Joe Rogan asks, he does a great job of laying

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Speaker 3: it's a great interview. It's an educationtional interview, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's what Joe offers. I think he gets great

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Speaker 3: if anyone does it better.

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Speaker 4: Sam, Yeah, I had two names that are do TV

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Speaker 4: or specials? I guess Graham ben Singer in Depth with

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Speaker 1: See I would say this about Ben ben Singer, Yes,

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Speaker 1: is he does? He gets some good stuff? Do you guys?

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Speaker 1: Have you guys ever heard his process?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But I got hired away from Jim Rome in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 3: and Graham Bensinger hired me away from him. I was

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Speaker 3: an intricate part of his booking process for eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so take people through what actually happens.

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Speaker 3: Graham has a very high standard for who he interviews,

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Speaker 1: And then doesn't he do doesn't he spend like a

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Speaker 2: The guests no lives in their poolhouse? I because I

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Speaker 1: Because my old producer, Adam Klug, he was offered a

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Speaker 1: and he said that, like the whole thing was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not just his is coming into an interview, like

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Speaker 1: he spends I don't know if it was a week

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Speaker 4: That's a good process because yeah, you're getting that access,

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Speaker 4: you're getting a comfort level at that point.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Okay, and I think Brogan, I

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Speaker 1: I've listened to long clips of it. And I think

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Speaker 1: think that Rogan and sterned right, you're still in person

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Speaker 1: and you got to take people down a path. I'll

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Speaker 1: in that. But it's because I know the process. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of research done within it is Rome, right.

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Speaker 1: Rome's whole thing is he he has a producer prep him.

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Speaker 1: He is a vociferous reader. Again, you tell me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Jay Stu. And what he does is he

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Speaker 1: And what I've been told was Jim Row doesn't ask

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Speaker 1: but it may not everybody else might not know that answer.

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Speaker 1: And so when he hears it, he makes it sound

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Speaker 1: like it's the first time. It's kind of it's a

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Speaker 1: little magical. And how he does it I just process wise.

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Speaker 1: I like Dan style, which kind of I sort of adopted,

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Speaker 1: which is like, I asked things that I want to

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm I think you're asking me to

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Speaker 3: verify that or or I disagree. All right, So so

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Speaker 3: Jim does everything you just said. But here's the genius

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Speaker 3: in any interview. Any good interviewer is really good at listening.

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Speaker 3: But he's best. The best parts of Jim Rome's interviews

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Speaker 4: I think you prove you're listening intently if you're asking

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think here's why the Dan, the

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Speaker 1: But Joe Rogan has been on television. You go back

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Speaker 1: I would say Stern has He's been a big name forever.

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Speaker 1: on America's Got Talent?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, America's got talent. And by the way, since you

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Speaker 3: tease it, I'll pay off the tease. So I have

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Speaker 3: a text chain with buddies that are in the industry,

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Speaker 3: and do is talk crap about talent. That's that's That's

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Speaker 3: the gist of the uh of the group text. And

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Speaker 3: then Howard Stern two days ago said out loud that

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Speaker 3: he no longer wants Trump voters listening to his show.

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Speaker 3: obviously means he's not re upping with serious exam because

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Speaker 3: that comment goes against every every single thing that we

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Speaker 3: were brought up to believe in broadcasting. Do not alienate

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Speaker 1: You got. You gotta have a great relationship with your

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Speaker 1: booking producer, and you know you gotta sometimes have some

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Speaker 1: lower intestinal fortitude, right, lower intestine for two. Just go,

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Speaker 1: this is not going to work.

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Speaker 4: It's just not talking small intestine, large intestine, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Of both, the small intestin because the small intestine is

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Speaker 1: the lower intestine, right, I think, So here you do.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Dan Bayer. Get a quick update Dan

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Speaker 1: what he got.

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Speaker 2: We almost had a no hitter today in Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball in the Guardians taking on the Mats, and Gavin

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Speaker 2: Williams has a no hitter heading into the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the ninth inning, struck out Francisco Lindor, and then this happened.

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Speaker 5: Gavin into the motion No one oh swung on, pounded

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Speaker 5: deep center field, Martinez track wall leap, shuts off the wall,

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Speaker 5: and now the Empires are saying and hit the back

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Speaker 5: wall and cairen back onto the field a home run,

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Speaker 5: and one Soto does it again to Cleveland solo Homer,

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Speaker 5: his twenty six no hitter, gone shutout.

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Speaker 2: Gone Ah the Guardians Radio Network Cleveland would get the

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Speaker 2: victory four to one, but could have been history today

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Speaker 2: for Gavin Williams, who does pick up the victory, though

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Speaker 2: he didn't get that no hitter. A couple of finals.

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Speaker 2: Twins beat the Tigers nine to four, Giants double up

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Speaker 2: the Pirates four to two, and the Orioles beat the

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Speaker 2: Phillies five to one. Joey Otani's on the mound for

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers to start a against the Cardinals scoreless right

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Speaker 2: now in the second Cubs lead the Red six nothing

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Speaker 2: in the ninth inning, trying to close it out at Wrigley.

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Speaker 2: Rays have jumped out on Doug's Angels to nothing in

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Speaker 2: the second, and Yankees have lost five straight. They're tied

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Speaker 2: with the Rangers at two apiece in the seventh, while

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays have a five one lead against the Rockies.

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Speaker 2: In the fifth inning. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford received then

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Speaker 2: epidural to deal with an aggravated disc. According to the

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Speaker 2: NFL Network, report says that the team believes he'll be

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Speaker 2: ready for Week one against the Texans. Broncos. A JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins is their first team running back with Julia McLaughlin

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Speaker 2: is the second team running back as their depth chart

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Speaker 2: was released today. Rocky R. J. Harvey right now fifth

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Speaker 2: in the pecking order in the Mile High City.

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Speaker 1: Doug, back to you, Stug Gottleib show here here at

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Hmm, Dan, let me ask you a question,

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Speaker 1: what are you actually most interested in the SENTEFL season?

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Speaker 1: Like I say that because we're in the rapid hole

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboy of talking about MICHAEH. Parsons, does any

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Speaker 1: of us, the four of us, Okay and Jason, I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, your great perception of Hey, if Howard Stearn

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Speaker 1: says I don't need Trump listeners, don't listen to my show,

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Speaker 1: you know he's gonna quit soon or his contract's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be renewed. Right, So, based upon any of our perception,

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Speaker 1: does anybody think that Michael Parsons's not gonna play for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys this year?

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Speaker 2: I think he will eventually, Yes, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Sam, Jay Stu, I think he plays. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean nobody sits out because remember if you sit out,

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Speaker 1: you don't gain that year and you don't get that money.

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Speaker 1: He's still there. Like the point is I get that

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Speaker 1: right now? It sounds like, man, this is really bad.

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Speaker 1: But as I've told you, he's actually under contract with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys for the next four years if they want

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Speaker 1: to keep him, and they wouldn't. They came together to

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Speaker 1: agree to terms. So however far off they are, it's

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Speaker 1: not that far off. If it was that far off, one,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have felt the Cowboys wouldn't have felt like they

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Speaker 1: had a deal, and two, Michael Parsons wouldn't be there

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Speaker 1: right now. He just wouldn't. Again, this is just a guess.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I have texted Dave Molgetta asked him

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Speaker 1: to come on. He to this point has not, and

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Speaker 1: in the past he has said I will come on.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to come on for other things that we've

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Speaker 1: I've text him about. So that doesn't mean he's gonna

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Speaker 1: share with us the details. My guess is that he's

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Speaker 1: the agent. Jerry knows the agent. Jerry tried to get

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Speaker 1: the deal done with Michael Parsons because he knows that

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Speaker 1: agents will do agent things where they try and drive

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Speaker 1: up the price real or otherwise, and he tried to

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Speaker 1: get it done. They thought they had it done, that

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Speaker 1: it's not done, and then at some point, Micah called

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Speaker 1: Moged and was like, we got a deal done. He's like,

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Speaker 1: what what are you even talking about? And he hit

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Speaker 1: the roof. I don't blame him. Here's Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about the negotiations real quick. It's my understanding.

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Speaker 6: Nothing was put in writing. So how would you describe

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Speaker 6: a deal getting so to speak, done and then walked

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Speaker 6: away from.

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Speaker 7: I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about

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Speaker 7: thirty seconds, and I gave the number, shook hands. The

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Speaker 7: details we worked out later. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 7: one of the details involved a lot of money and

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Speaker 7: we had to flip a coin over that. But the

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Speaker 7: fundamental I'm buying and you're going to sell it to

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Speaker 7: me for that range, that's done and those are done

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Speaker 7: with eye contact and handshake. So is there just so

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Speaker 7: you understand why the way that I communicate with people

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Speaker 7: that I negotiate with. So let's leave it at that.

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Speaker 7: There is no question that in the case of a

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Speaker 7: player or contract, you have to have it in writing.

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Speaker 7: All parties do we have a contract in writing, Yet

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Speaker 7: we're still talking about renegotiating it.

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Speaker 1: So so much for that. Okay, So he's doing the Hey,

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Speaker 1: we had a verbal deal, we had a handshake agreement.

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Speaker 1: That's the agreement. And like I said, you know, then

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Speaker 1: he goes back to the agent and the agent's like,

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Speaker 1: you did what you agreed to? What? Excuse me? I

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Speaker 1: think a verbal a deal is a deal. Deal's a deal,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? You know, work out the details later. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually with Jerry on this one. Hey, you want

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Speaker 1: to get a deal done, you want to get a

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Speaker 1: deal done quick. Let's get it done quick. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me. By the way. Is if is if you

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Speaker 1: have a player who wanted to get the deal done

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Speaker 1: so he didn't have to pay the four percent that

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Speaker 1: Molgeta did his last deal, and he's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: need that. And that's where that's where I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Michael Parsons understands that. Do You guys know

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Speaker 1: this about agents. You can fire your agent, but if

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Speaker 1: you stay with the same team, you still owe your

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Speaker 1: agent that that money that commissioned. It's the same thing

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Speaker 1: with with our business, right Like the the agent that

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Speaker 1: I did the deal with, the mood to fox An agency,

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Speaker 1: I there's I'm there's I'm still on the hook to

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Speaker 1: pay them. Why they move me over here. It's not

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Speaker 1: a new not a new contract, just extension of the contract. Technically,

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Speaker 1: if I started a new contract, then I guess I

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Speaker 1: could have that argument. I bring it up, Dan, because

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Speaker 1: it's not really that interesting to me. I think that

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Speaker 1: Jerry and this this constant every year hit one of

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Speaker 1: his best players, best player, and some of the things

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Speaker 1: they say, and how it's all handled, I think that

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Speaker 1: part is interesting. But the grand scheme of things in

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Speaker 1: in five months, are we really going to be talking

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Speaker 1: about this?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers looking old and slow and a

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Speaker 1: little an enthusiastic, I think that's a bigger deal then

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Speaker 1: the parts steal. I actually think that the Browns thing

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Speaker 1: is bigger because they may be competing for the number

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Speaker 1: one seed, I mean the number one draft pick. Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: I think those things are more interesting. So I ask you,

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Speaker 1: as a guy who has your own podcast focuses on

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Speaker 1: fantasy fantasy football, it's called I Want Your Flex, what's

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Speaker 1: the most interesting thing to you this season?

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Speaker 2: Seasons of a long time, there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: there's there's twenty storylines that we could follow, some that

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Speaker 2: won't be paid off, to the playoffs. The most interesting

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Speaker 2: story to start this season to me is Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: and Ben Johnson's marriage in Chicago, not only because of

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Speaker 2: what we've seen in the preseason, but also Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: had an opportunity to pick wherever he wanted to go

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Speaker 2: basically the last couple of off seasons, and then he

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Speaker 2: finally cashed in his chips and says, I'm going to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: The Bears traded away their first overall pick one year,

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Speaker 2: and then we're fortunate enough to get the first overall

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Speaker 2: pick because of the trade they made the second year

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Speaker 2: to draft Caleb Williams. Not only do I think that

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Speaker 2: we are going to be watching Caleb Williams over the

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Speaker 2: first four weeks to see how he does with the Bears,

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Speaker 2: we will always compare him to Jayden Daniels because he

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Speaker 2: was picked after him. By all accounts, Drake May is

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Speaker 2: having a good training camp with the New England Patriots

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Speaker 2: and I and by the way, I'm starting to really

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Speaker 2: love New England this season. The vrabel already today gets

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Speaker 2: blooded in a scrap with the Commanders. So Drake May

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Speaker 2: seems to be getting positive reviews and we don't hear

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Speaker 2: it with Caleb Williams, and the craziest thing of all,

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Speaker 2: we may now be having to compare Caleb Williams with

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young, who came on strong last year at the

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Speaker 2: end of the year after a disastrous first season, plus

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Speaker 2: with the Panthers, and now if the Panthers continue to

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Speaker 2: make the strides like the Caleb Williams conversation has so

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Speaker 2: many different areas and so while the chief if they

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Speaker 2: can bounce back, if the Bills can get to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl, is something that will follow, but we won't

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Speaker 2: pay it off until January or February, the first six

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Speaker 2: weeks of the season. I think Caleb Williams watch in

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Speaker 2: Chicago is to me the most intriguing.

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Speaker 1: I would tuck you after that legend, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want to. I think it's great. You know, he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to have that year two jump. They put a bunch

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Speaker 1: of weapons around him. They brought in the guy who

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Speaker 1: everybody thinks is the offensive guru. And you have a

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Speaker 1: player who real or perceived and obviously the article didn't

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Speaker 1: help perceived as being super arrogant. If he can't play, yikes, yikes,

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