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Speaker 1: Tell mommy you need to heat a garage. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since

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Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for

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Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving

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Speaker 1: in the garage to orders are open. But I am

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Speaker 1: now he running. Yeah, I knew that was coming. Uh hey,

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Speaker 1: look at me, Tom. I'm a big international star, Dear

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Speaker 1: Mr Ron, Mr Ron. Yeah, they apparently don't know you.

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Speaker 1: Wait minute, dear Mr Ron, and I hope I say

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Speaker 1: this name right. My name is Jelawi. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: the planet, Kingdom Saudi Arabia. I say, I say road trip. Wow,

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Speaker 1: My problem is every time I pressed the brake pedal,

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Speaker 1: Be well. Um yeah, absolutely listen. UM, let's let's break

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Speaker 1: we looked at that on off action that the thermostat

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00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: was creating, If we looked at that as a voltage line,

428
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: it would be up and it would be down, and

429
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: it would be up and it would be down. Right,

430
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: So the forward OH two is seeing varying states of oxygen.

431
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: The voltage signal would always rise and fall up and down,

432
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down. If the catalytic converter,

433
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: and a catalytic converter is designed chemically, it holds oxygen,

434
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: all right. I always say it this way, and nothing

435
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: against people that like to eat Hero sandwiches, but it's

436
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: sort of like that guy who likes to sit at

437
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: the counter and eat a Hero sandwich until he can't

438
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: eat anymore, all right, he can, he can just eat,

439
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: neat and neat, and neat and neat. A catalytic converter

440
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: can just store oxygen and store oxygen and store oxygen.

441
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: And if we looked at a voltage signal out of

442
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: a downstream or after the CATO two centsor it would

443
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: be a steady high voltage you with me, so sooner

444
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: or later that that guy at the counter eating that

445
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: Italian Hero burps right, well, so so does the O

446
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: two censor. Because the catalytic converter reaches a peak efficiency max.

447
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: It just can't hold anymore, and it starts to give

448
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: up oxygen, and you would see the O two centsor

449
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 1: signal fall. The moment that oh two centsor signal falls,

450
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: the computer has calculated how long did he keep eating

451
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: the sandwich? He started eating it here, he ate it

452
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: for seven and a half seconds, and then he burped,

453
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: all right, And that's where the math comes from. That's

454
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: how it knows. So you know it's likely. This is

455
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: not an O two censor. This is likely the guy

456
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: at the counter can't eat the sandwich for seven seconds

457
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: like he's supposed to because some of his internal material

458
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: is worn away, or it's contaminated, or it's corroded. Does that.

459
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't see the I'm sorry, I don't see the

460
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: old two centsor after the calid compared. I only see

461
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: it right in front of it. And there's one maybe

462
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: right at the near the the manifold, near the engine block.

463
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: Then you're looking at the wrong cat. There's there should

464
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 1: be there should then there could be two cats on

465
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: this car too. Okay, there has to be an O

466
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: two center in front of the cat. Has to be

467
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: there wasn't There is one in front but I don't

468
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: see one in the back. There has to be. There

469
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: has to be two o two centers in this vehicle.

470
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: I've never seen one where there wasn't that otherwise, how

471
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: would they otherwise there's no way to measure and show

472
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: efficiency for P zero four. So you're you're missing something.

473
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: There's gotta be there's gotta be a pre cat in

474
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: a postcat a two centsor on this vehicle, guaranteed. I

475
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: don't guarantee a lot. I think I saw was the

476
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: one right in front, and there's also right at the

477
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: If I open up the hood right it looks like

478
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: there's a sensor right there right well, then there then

479
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: your catalytic converter as part of your exhaust manifold, those

480
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: are your two censors. So there are two sensors. You're

481
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: just expecting to see them down on the pipe, right

482
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: I expect, Yeah, I've seen. I'm looking for them to

483
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: see the behind the catalytic converter. I only see one

484
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: in the front. Judging it from front to back. Wherever

485
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: that first oh two is the cat. The cat is

486
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: right after that, and this might be a manifold cat.

487
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: That second cat that you're seeing that there is no

488
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: two censor after it could be what we call an

489
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: unmonitored cat meaning they don't regulate it, they don't look

490
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: after it, they don't really care about it. They just

491
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: know it's there and it has to stay there. Otherwise

492
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: the icle is an emissions tamper. But you're you're the

493
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: point of where your catalytic converter is between that first

494
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: center and the second. That's just the way the law works.

495
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: It's there, you just don't see it. It's part of

496
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: the manifold. But it's there. Has to be there, or

497
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: the system has been modified. You're the original owner on

498
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: the truck. Okay, then you would know. Now as far

499
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: as the monitors are concerned, when you went to high school,

500
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: what was your worst subject? Uh? Probably English? Did you

501
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: take every test as long as as long as mom,

502
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: as long as mom made you go right? So, and

503
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: you completed every test? But did you pass every test? So? So,

504
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: The way a computer works is it runs its monitor.

505
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: It's runs its test on each individual component, catalytic converter,

506
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: evaporative emission, oh two centsor and so on down the line.

507
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: It runs a test on every component at some point

508
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: during the drive cycle. Operational use of the vehicle during

509
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: the course of the day. Okay. Now, at some point

510
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: that monitor meets the right conditions, right, Mrs Smith, put

511
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: the lights on in the room, the windows are open.

512
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: It was cool at you finished the test under the

513
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: right conditions. Right right now, you're catalytic converter test. You're

514
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: your your self test for the CAT. The monitor for

515
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: the CAT has not run because the conditions are not ideal,

516
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: all right. So until that CAT self test rungs, you

517
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: won't know if this CAT is efficient or if that

518
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: was a one time fluke of the failure. Now I'll

519
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: tell you how I get CAT monitors to run, or

520
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I'll know for sure. The most common test is I

521
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: take it out on the highway to sixty no more.

522
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: I put it on cruise control, I go for a

523
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: nice steady drive, and I'll watch it on a scan tool. Okay,

524
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: And that puts the that puts the vehicle usually in

525
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: the right mode, the right operational position that it will

526
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: run the CAT monitor. Now you could have some You

527
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: could have a dirty catalytic converter too. If you want

528
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: to spend a couple of bucks and try something simple.

529
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: Do you have an auto zone by you go over

530
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: there and see if they have Berryman Emissions Pass Cleaner. Alright, Berryman,

531
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: all right, I'll get you the exact and yeah, it's

532
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: Berryman's Emissions Pass Protection. It's a heavy duty fuel system

533
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: cleaner that Berryman's makes that will clean injectors and take

534
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: valves and take runners and help clean up the catalytic converter.

535
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: If the catalytic converter has contaminant on it, that could

536
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: possibly help clean it up. No promises, but it's just

537
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: another method or another way to attack before you get

538
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: into a cat. Do you put that in the tank

539
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: in the gas tank? All right? Auto zone should have it, alright?

540
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: That code is it most probably the defective catalytic convertiment.

541
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: It's well, it could be a dirty cat. It's showing

542
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: you inefficiency of the catalytic converter. That's what it's showing you.

543
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: By definition, if you have an exhaust leak ahead of

544
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: the cat, you'll set that code. So everybody assumes a

545
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: P zero four twenty is always a bad cat. There

546
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: are other things that can cause it. It's common, but

547
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: it's not guaranteed. All right, Okay, I can tell you.

548
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what sit tight A minute. Let me

549
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: let me pull over. Let me just take this quick

550
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: pause because we're gonna run late. I'm running any in

551
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: the car, doctor, We'll be back right after this. Don't

552
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: go away, welcome back, run any of the car. Doctor here, Jean,

553
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: you're still there, sir. Okay, that was going to say,

554
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: when I cleared the code on it. Uh, what happens

555
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: is and may go thirty fifty miles and then the

556
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: check engine light comes back on, so you know what

557
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: you clear, it will stay off until about you know,

558
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: maybe fifty miles. Did you ever go when you went

559
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: to high school? How many periods did you have? Seven? Eight?

560
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I had eight? Was eight periods? Right, So if I

561
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: knew the English test with at the end of the day,

562
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: it took me seven periods to get there. I had

563
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: to walk through seven periods of classes or seven segments

564
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: of classes. Right. For the cat monitor run, it may

565
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: take thirty or fifty miles before it finally runs its test.

566
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's just that simple. And here I thought

567
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: of something you can do real quick. You have a

568
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: scan tool. Does it have data stream on it? Uh? No,

569
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: it's just a basic scanner. Okay, So if you want

570
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: to if you want to prove which is oxygen sensor

571
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: one an oxygen sensor to all right, and do this

572
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: with the engine cold. This way you don't burn your hands.

573
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Disconnect one of the O two's, start the truck up.

574
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: It'll set a fault code if you if you disconnect

575
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: the front one, it's gonna send a fault code for

576
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: Bank one censor one inactivity or Bank one censor one heater.

577
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: It's gonna tell you, by definition of code, which one

578
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: you unplugged. It's going to prove to you there are

579
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: two O twos in this vehicle. Alright, nothing related to

580
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, just showing you how things are

581
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: laid out. Go do what you gotta do. Go visit

582
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: your auto zone, call me back if you need more.

583
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: All right, Kido, I gotta go. Do well, Let's go

584
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: to Brian real quick and get him started. Brian, I

585
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: got a minute, and then we're gonna come back to

586
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: end finishing on the back side. What's going on? All right?

587
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Quick question? What was that thermostat that you talked about

588
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: that was bad or there was a good brand that

589
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: you mean, motor plastic, motor ret motor red, m O

590
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: T O motor Red, motor Ret M M O T

591
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: O R A D. They make gold sort, they make thermostats,

592
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: they make gold sorts of sensors. Their stuff meets I

593
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: S on nine thousand testing specifications. Great strike. My friend

594
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: has two fifteen rogue where his thermostat is screwed at

595
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: this point. All right, so I'm wondering would that be

596
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: in a rogue of two thousand fifteen. Well, I don't

597
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: know if it's plastic or not, but you'd have to

598
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: go to the motor ret website and then look it

599
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: up by application to see if they make what I'm

600
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: sure they do. Motor Rat actually makes a lot of

601
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: OI parts that you know, meet manufactured respects. The manufacturers

602
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: are using them and a lot of direct applications. As

603
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the conversation you're me talking about

604
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: was the local jeep dealer was using motor Rat thermostats

605
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: because they couldn't buy them from Chrysler anymore. And that's

606
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: what generated that conversation way back when. So but yeah,

607
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: get out to motorat dot com, check out their website,

608
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: and I bet you're gonna find they make a thermostaff

609
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: for that vehicle. And then get yourself over to your

610
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: local auto zone and they'll have it for you. Eight

611
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: zero runninating the car doctor coming back right after this.

612
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Well I'm tired. What a busy two hours? Holy count.

613
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: Um I'll tell you what time flew by. But boy,

614
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: were sure fixed a lot of cars this week. Um,

615
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: one more, let's just do this. Let's answer this email. Run.

616
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: A while back, you had on your show a guy

617
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: from New Hampshire that treated vehicle engine compartments with a

618
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: spray that the urs, critters, critters and cars. I love it.

619
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: I can't seem to find them online, probably just not

620
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: searching correctly. Remember who this was? If I remember who

621
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: this was? Are you kidding? Becauld, you please send us

622
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: company's info, Dave. Dave writes in, UM, yeah, Dave, you're

623
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: talking about New Hampshire Oil Undercoating. New Hampshire Oil Undercoating

624
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: dot com. Absolutely a great product, and you're speaking directly

625
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: about their product called mouse Out. Mouse Out is an

626
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: oil spray that and they do it different. You know.

627
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: NH Oil Undercoating does this way different than everybody else.

628
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: Everybody else has a has some sort of a product

629
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: that's it's either tape or pepper smell or something that

630
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: we as humans can smell too. Mouse Out is a

631
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: predatory spray to deter the animals so that they leave,

632
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: so that they think there's an animal nearby. It creates

633
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: a scent that you know when when another animal is

634
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: nearby that a mouse will smell it, you know, a

635
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: cat or something and it leaves. So it's not disruptive

636
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: to us as human beings, which is great because we're

637
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: the vehicle owners were operating the vehicle. We don't have

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