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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's a podcast. It's happening to your ears

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Speaker 2: right now. How can this be? Who did this to you?

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Speaker 2: Why is this happening? Where is this happening. It's happening

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Speaker 2: now here in your ears.

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Speaker 3: I'm Robert Vins.

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Speaker 2: This is behind the Bastards, Cody Johnston with me in

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Speaker 2: the studio, which is not a literal studio, but a

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Speaker 2: metaphorical studio, a mind palace, studio that exists purely in

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Speaker 2: the space between our third eyes. Cody, how are you feeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling great in our shared studio, the studio of

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Speaker 3: our hearts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's how we met each other. It was like

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Speaker 2: a Jedi thing, you know, years before we started working

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it a website at that point?

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Speaker 2: No, No, there weren't websites.

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Speaker 3: There weren't websites. We still had that meeting.

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Speaker 2: No, we knew each other in the womb, the creative womb. Cody.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about r fks into Part four?

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Speaker 3: God, I'm not confident in his ability.

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Speaker 2: You don't think this is going to turn out good?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. Man, it doesn't bode Well.

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Speaker 2: No, we boy. There wasn't a lot of fun stuff

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Speaker 2: in part three, but there he was still like you

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Speaker 2: could believe at least at points like, well, it seems

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Speaker 2: like he's doing better than a lot of Kennedy's are.

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Speaker 2: There was an element of tragedy to him that gives

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Speaker 2: you some sympathy. All of that's about to get flushed

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Speaker 2: down the toilet, Cody. We are now at the part

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Speaker 2: where he kills hundreds of people.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Zah, I didn't We did it, Joe, we did it.

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Speaker 1: And you know what else? We just did Robert Open, We.

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Speaker 2: Did the Cold Open. We're done, We're back, We're warmed up.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about RFK plunging into the last chapter of

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Speaker 2: the RFK Saga, Yeah, RFK Junior saga. By the very

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Speaker 2: start of the aughts, RFK Junior seemed to finally have

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Speaker 2: a better place in public. He was a respected environmental

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Speaker 2: lawyer and assumed Democratic Party stalwart. Oppenheimer's book includes several

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Speaker 2: quotes from members of the family who are like, again,

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Speaker 2: thank god he didn't get into politics. He might actually

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Speaker 2: be happy now, right, He's got a chance, but behind

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Speaker 2: his image, Bobby was not the man that his fans

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Speaker 2: or the country hoped. In twenty ten, he started dating

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Speaker 2: actor Cheryl Hines of Curb Your Enthusiasm fame. The problem

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Speaker 2: with this is that he was still married to his wife,

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Speaker 2: Mary Richardson now RFK Junior head. Up to that point

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Speaker 2: had a tumultuous love life. He had married his first wife, Emily,

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Speaker 2: They broke up later that same year. I assume his

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Speaker 2: rampant cheting was a significant part of that, because that

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Speaker 2: So he and Emily break up the same year that

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Speaker 2: again to Mary Richardson. Now, Mary is a successful architect.

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Speaker 2: She is someone who has you know, done very well

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Speaker 2: So that's good. That's not great, that's not great. She's

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, Cody, this story doesn't end well, and she

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Speaker 2: eventually she made friends with one of Bobby's relatives. That's

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Speaker 2: After they get hitched. The two are together a long time,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are reasons for this.

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Speaker 2: He testified that early in his marriage to Mary, the

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Speaker 1: So the family dog.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she meant to, but maybe maybe she

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Speaker 2: it's a bad time. Those poor kids, right, those poor kids. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that a lot of writing on the

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Speaker 2: Is a book called Ask Not the Kennedys and the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, exploited if to me. This book was

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Speaker 2: finds out about yet another affair. Marine writes that she

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Speaker 2: And there's even this passage and after Camelot that includes

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Speaker 2: He is a demon. He is a demon. He is

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Speaker 2: the most evil kind of man in the world. Everything

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Speaker 3: I mean that seems exactcurate.

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Speaker 3: Things, Kennedy stuff, Kennedy stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: It's Kennedy stuff. And you know his wife was somebody

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Speaker 2: as reported in an article recently published in Vanity Fair,

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Speaker 2: after Kennedy left her, Richardson proposed that she live in

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Speaker 2: and then tried to avoid paying her child support, using

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Speaker 2: his brain fog as a medical excuse for alleged financial straits. Richardson,

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Speaker 2: her behavior, increasingly erratic, eventually lost custody of the children

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Speaker 2: to Kennedy. The Kennedy family, including Kerrie, who had once

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Speaker 2: from her. On May sixteenth, twenty twelve, Richardson's housekeeper discovered

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Speaker 3: That's awful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bleak. It's a bleak story.

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Speaker 3: That's really bleak.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what to say.

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Speaker 2: That's just devastating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, several series of events, and I said, it's poor kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Mary's family describe RFK Junior's behavior as psychological torture,

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Speaker 2: and they even try to do a wrongful death suit. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know was he intending to hurt her? You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't have evidence of that certainly, but his behavior

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Speaker 3: Right, Well it's not. It doesn't need to be intentional.

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Speaker 3: It's just like that's how he's been hit, how he

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Speaker 2: just another anti vaxer who got wrapped up in this.

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00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: No no, no, he is how anti vax he's part

433
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: a big part of how it breaks containment.

434
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 3: The name he uses to because it would have had

435
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: like some editors going through it, yeah, with like rigorous

436
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 3: like actually like looking at like fact checking and stuff

437
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: and like.

438
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: Well, this is who the fuck is this guy?

439
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we're not going to publish this, but it's Kennedy,

440
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: so you just publish that. Sure.

441
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: One thing I find myself explaining to a lot of

442
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: liberals in the modern era is how they'll hear about

443
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: like organic food hippies or like crystal healing types who

444
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: have gone hard maga and be like, well, those guys

445
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: are like left weirdos, right, Like those guys are weirdos

446
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: who are on our side of things, right, That's how

447
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: it's always been, And Kennedy is a big Bobby Kennedy

448
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: is pulls them out of the left. He is a

449
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: big part of that, right because there's so much gravity

450
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: to the Kennedy name. As he comes sailing over that

451
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: political divideline in our society, he pulls a huge chunk

452
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 2: of like the weird left with him because he's still

453
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: this guy who celebrated in progressive circles for his work

454
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: and environmental law. So when he takes gets to anti vacshit,

455
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: it has a big impact.

456
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. He also like it's sort of grants like validity

457
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, even if you weren't like doing all

458
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: this publishing stuff and like actually like getting the bad

459
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: information out there, he's still just sort of saying like, yeah,

460
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: I believe this and I'm mc kennedy, therefore you can

461
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: and like it's sort of like give these people that

462
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: can have these sort of contradictory positions and like have

463
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's a

464
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: real phenomenon.

465
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's real, and it's cool and it's good. Yeah.

466
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all that.

467
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Bobby is an important part of the journey of

468
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: a chunk of you know, fringe kind of WU culture

469
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: over to the right because the myth of the Kennedy

470
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: family is a huge deal for everyone in society. Right,

471
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: there's a guy, to go back to the Trump shooting

472
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: in the when he gets shot, there's a dude standing

473
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: directly behind him that thousands of QAnon believers think is

474
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: literally John F. Kennedy Junior in disguise because JFK Junior

475
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: s didn't die in the plane crash. He's hiding. He's

476
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: waiting to Corain King or some shit. Yeah, and that guy,

477
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: that fake Kennedy is standing directly behind Trump when he

478
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: gets shot at because why not, why not? We're just

479
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: doing mad.

480
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: Libs and wild like nothing is real.

481
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: Nothing is real. Now, the fact that Bobby became a

482
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: vocal advocate for anti vax shit has a big impact

483
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: and it helps impart a gravitas and credibility to this crowd.

484
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: The particular brand of scum who have crusted to the

485
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: rim of the anti VAXX movement tend to have precisely

486
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: one skill, which is an instinctive knowledge of branding. Once

487
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: they see there's a Kennedy in the mix, there is

488
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: a feeding frenzy over who gets to be his friend? Right, Like,

489
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: this guy could take us everywhere.

490
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 3: We want to go.

491
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: Like like, let's see who can win in a scrum

492
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: to actually get to like be his best buddy. And

493
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: the winner here is Dell big Tree. Great name for

494
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: a weirdo vaccine conspiracy theorist. Dell is a former TV

495
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: producer who has in recent years become a regular guest

496
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 2: on the Alex Jones Show. I mostly encountered Dell before

497
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: this through the podcast Knowledge Fight, which chronicles Jones. Dell

498
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: is also the CEO of the Informed Consent Action Network.

499
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: And if you know now that we know something about

500
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: Bobby Kennedy, there's no he should If he's involved with

501
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: an organization, it absolutely shouldn't be The Informed Consent Action

502
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Network he's not great on informed consent.

503
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: Maybe he can take a seminar, Yeah, like he should

504
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: take learn something from them. But maybe he shouldn't be

505
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: heavily involved.

506
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he shouldn't be helping to run things. Dell produced

507
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: the documentary Vaxed. Dell has no relevant medical training. He

508
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: has absolutely no reason to be talking about any of

509
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: this stuff. But he did once produce a TV show

510
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: called The Doctors, And that really is all it takes.

511
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: With the chuck of the country, all it takes.

512
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: God, we're so cooked, We're so doomed.

513
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we we they were a little doomed. We

514
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 2: might be a little doomed.

515
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 3: But it's maybe it'll be fine.

516
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it'll be okay. Maybe we're all getting out.

517
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: Maybe we're gonna shake all this off like a fever,

518
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, A man can dream, a man can hope.

519
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: As I stated earlier, Dell hads an instinctive understanding of

520
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: pr and how to do the slow work of ideological capture.

521
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: He focused on doing rallies and outreach to communities that

522
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: were primed for an anti vaccine message. Hasidic Jewish synagogues

523
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: were a particular favorite of his. Kennedy gave him inroads

524
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: into an even larger community, Americans who still thought back

525
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: mournfully to the what could have been of Camelot. Big

526
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: Tree connected Kennedy to Wakefield, and the three did numerous

527
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: appearances together. RFK Junior starts writing anti VAXX books with

528
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: titles like vax unvaxed, Let the Science Speak. And I

529
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: don't know how much of these he's actually writing. Again.

530
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: It's kind of like that thing with his thesis. Is

531
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: he just he puts out so many books. He's like

532
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: more than one a year. Sometimes I kind of think

533
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: he's just paying people to write books for him. And

534
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 2: he's like, it doesn't matter, matters. Is that the Kennedy

535
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: names on it, you know, and I agree with the message?

536
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or the worms working overtime.

537
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: Or that worm, that poor worm. Just I'm really starting

538
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: to feel sorry.

539
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: For the word sleepless nights for that worm just hunched

540
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: over the brain.

541
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: The typewriter just chain smoking cigarettes out in the mountainous

542
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: Corpus colosum.

543
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: Well that's where the brain flog came from. Cigarettes and

544
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: the star.

545
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Oh fuck. By this point, RFK Junior is firmly flirting

546
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: with the fringes, but this stuff had also not been

547
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: politicized like it is today. Every mainstream political figure was

548
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: against the anti vax weirdos, right. George W. Bush was

549
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: not a big anti vax guy, right. And so during

550
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: that kind of period, it's not super obvious which political

551
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: party you would want to be on. If you're this

552
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: kind of weirdo, right, you're certainly not necessarily gravitating towards

553
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: the Republican Party. Right up to the early two thousands,

554
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: RFK Junior still hung out with Bill Clinton on occasion

555
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: and counted himself a member of the liberal elite. Vanity

556
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Fair traces the moment when this changed to twenty fourteen

557
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: quote Kennedy married Hines in a wedding attended by a

558
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: glittering array of friends, including Larry David and Julia Luis Dreyfuss,

559
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: and moved to Los Angeles. The move marked a reinvention

560
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: of sorts, distancing Kennedy from his East Coast network and

561
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: perhaps removing some of the built in guard rails that

562
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: had tempered his worst impulses. In addition to consulting for

563
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: companies seeking his environmental Seal of Approval, he chaired the

564
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: five oh one C three nonprofit Children's Health Defense, which

565
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: began in two thousand and seven under the name World

566
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Mercury Project and inveighed against vaccines and fluorite in the water.

567
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: So he moves to Hollywood, and that's kind of what

568
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: cuts cuts the tethers to reality for this guy. Obviously,

569
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: some of this is Larry David's fault. I think none

570
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: of us is surprised of that. You know, whenever anything

571
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: evil happens in the world, I assume Larry David's got

572
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: some involvement, and it is somewhere up in there. Isn't

573
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: somebody offered, Yeah, Larry David and Darfur. There's an episode

574
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: of Curve on that. Probably not Probably shouldn't do that anyway.

575
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: The World Mercury Project had been founded in two thousand

576
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: and seven and today under the name Children's Health Defense.

577
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Bobby presides as chairman over a fifteen million dollar a

578
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: year organization. They particularly target new parents and minority communities.

579
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: During the start of the COVID nineteen pandemic, they launched

580
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: a media campaign to argue that COVID was not, in

581
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: fact very dangerous and people should avoid the vaccine at

582
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: all costs. They are particularly pushing this in black communities.

583
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: The PCHD targets Black Americans with propaganda, comparing the COVID

584
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: vaccine to the Tuskegee syphilis study. Basically, Bobby's like, hey,

585
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: you know how you don't trust the government because it's

586
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: fucked you around. Why would you take this vaccine? Just

587
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: kind of raw dog COVID. It'll be fine. It's better

588
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: than letting the government experiment on you. It's not just

589
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, Bobby's shit that feeds into this. There's a

590
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: lot of socioeconomic stuff. So it's hard to say how

591
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: much of this is Bobby's doing, how much of vaccine

592
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: hesitancy in the United States is Bobby doing? But the

593
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: CCHD is like people who have gone in and looked

594
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: at social media will note that propaganda spread by the

595
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 2: HD is some of the whitest spreading anti vaccine, and

596
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: like anti COVID nineteen sane reasonable prevention statistics propaganda that

597
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: goes out on the Internet, it spreads incredibly widely. Right,

598
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: So you can't really say, here's how many people Bobby

599
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: killed by doing this, but I would argue that by

600
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: any reasonable stretch of the imagination, he beats Ted's chap equitic.

601
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: Count, right right.

602
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, drug driving maybe the least dangerous thing that

603
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: Kennedy's to get involved in.

604
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

605
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Analysis by NBC News claims that the HD is

606
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: one of the top three sources of fake news about

607
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: the coronavirus vaccine on the entire internet. So yeah, I mean, basically,

608
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: by any argument, there's a body count. RFK has very significant.

609
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: There's some sort of negative health count regardless like hurt people, yeah,

610
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: or prevented and prevented them from, yeah.

611
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 2: Prevented them from not getting hurt from like seeking you know,

612
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: basic reasonable ill for their situation.

613
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: And telling them apparently that COVID's fine and you should

614
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: feel fine getting it, which again, the community did get disproportionately.

615
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: Maybe that is bad.

616
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if we want to talk about like the

617
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: greatest harm that he or the clearest harm that he's done,

618
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: the easiest body count we can draw to him, that's

619
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: going to bring us to twenty eighteen and the Samoan Islands.

620
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: Have you heard this story, Cody, I don't think so.

621
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is bad. This is a real bad one.

622
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think I have I don't know, do

623
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: I want to.

624
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, Cody. In twenty eighteen, two children

625
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: in the Samoan Islands died after catastrophic reactions to the

626
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: MMR vaccine. Now that is how it was spun initially, right.

627
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: The reality is that two nurses fucked up horribly in

628
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: administering the vaccines and dosed both children with massive quantities

629
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: of expired muscle relaxers. Now, oh, this is a terrible thing. Right, Yeah,

630
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: it's evidence that there's issues with those nurses, that there's

631
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: probably issues with the facilities. Right, this happens, that a

632
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: lot does need to change, Right, Like, you don't just

633
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: let you know, just go like, well, sometimes shit happens, Right,

634
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: this is evidence of serious breakdowns and right, how this

635
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: process ought to work. Yeah, But RFK Junior takes it

636
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: is like, this is proof that the vaccines that I

637
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: blame for my son's allergies are a threat to life

638
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: and limb. Right. So he throws himself and his organization

639
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: all of their resources into spreading anti vaccine propaganda just

640
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: in Samoa. Right, And because he's a Kennedy and because

641
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: he's got a shitload of money to spend on this

642
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: ad campaign, people listened. The Samoan Prime Minister was not

643
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: used to dealing with social media campaigns at this scale

644
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: and sophistication. The rapid outcry cultivated by rfk's organization caused

645
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: him to announce a halt to the administration of the

646
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: MMR vaccine across Samoa. Because of this campaign, he launches

647
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: the Samoan government stops rolling out the MMR vaccine, right.

648
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: They put a pause on it basically in June of Yeah,

649
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: and this is going to have a pretty catastrophic result.

650
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 2: In June of twenty nineteen, Kennedy and his new wife,

651
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Cheryl Hines flew to Samoa for a press blitz and

652
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: a private meeting with the Prime Minister. Now, this is

653
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: a great time for Bobby, But while he schmoozed measles

654
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: was starting to percolate throughout the community, infecting huge numbers

655
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: of now unvaccinated little kids. In months, there was an epidemic,

656
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: infecting nearly six thousand people and leading to eighty three deaths.

657
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: The vast majority of those deaths are extremely young children.

658
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: These are eighty three deaths that we can tie directly

659
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: to Bobby Kennedy.

660
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: They halted vaccines generally, well, no, the MMR vaccine, Okay, okay, Okay.

661
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: Which is measles, momps and rebelt.

662
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah yeah.

663
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Robert Ofitt, a member of the FDA Advisory Committee who

664
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 2: analyzed the epidemic, later concluded, Robert F. Kennedy Junior had

665
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: everything to do with that, And it shows you how

666
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: disinformation can kill, so that.

667
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: He kills people killed, all the reasons. He's like, literally

668
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: the reason that those kids are dead. That's so fucked up. Yeah,

669
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: he gave those kids measles, he got.

670
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 2: Them, he m. Bobby, Yeah, what do you even say

671
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: at a certain point, Bobby, Bobby said, Bobby.

672
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: Like, you didn't? Why did you? Does he care this happens?

673
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: Is he like does he know understand? Does he understand

674
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: that this happened? Knows?

675
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: And he doesn't think it's his fault in this life?

676
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: That Cody, we're getting to that, but first let's get

677
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: to some ads. Then we'll come back. Okay, Okay, we're back. Wow,

678
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: And you know what, I after listening to those ads,

679
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: my opinion is completely different, Cody. Let's let's get the

680
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: the MMR vaccines sucked out of our bodies.

681
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: No, I think we have to.

682
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: I'm back on board. Thank you, Thank you rfkju.

683
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, no.

684
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: Sophie, what's what we're doing. I got a vacuum rigged

685
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: up on reverse.

686
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: I don't want allergies.

687
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I'm gonna cut my arm, suck out the blood,

688
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: filter out the MMR, and squirt it right back in.

689
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: Sophie, don't make me put rotting meat in your.

690
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Fridgebody as somebody with a ship ton of allergies.

691
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: Give me that vaccine from experience.

692
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: So that Samoan epidemic was so devastating that the Prime

693
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: Minister reversed core declarity state of emergency and put a

694
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: vaccine mandate in place. Good people started getting vaccinated again.

695
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: The measles epidemic ended. While any reasonably humble and aware

696
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: person would have recognized at this point, oh, I have

697
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: fucked up in an unforgivable way, right, Obviously my actions

698
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: caused this, and obviously as soon as they stopped listening

699
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: to me, it got better. Welp, I fucked up, right,

700
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: But duh, yeah, yeah, that's not what happens. Because Cody

701
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: being a Kennedy I means you only have to listen

702
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: to reality when it sends a bullet your way, right

703
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: like that is that is the essence of this family, and.

704
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: So not the lesson to learn. Man, so many better

705
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: lessons from all.

706
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: This, Yeah, quite a few of them. RFK Junior ignored

707
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: the fact that he had gotten his way, children had died,

708
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: and his whole ideology of vaccine hesitancy had been shredded.

709
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: When confronted by a filmmaker for an upcoming documentary, Bobby

710
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: refused to even acknowledge what he'd done. I had nothing

711
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: to do with people not vaccinating in Samoa. I never

712
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: told anybody not to vaccinate.

713
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: What how can he do that?

714
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Like, like I said, you just told.

715
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: Him the vaccine was dangerous and whipped them up into

716
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: a frenzy.

717
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: Were allowing a man not taking responsibility for his own actions.

718
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: Oh my what Yeah, it's can't do that. You can't

719
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: say that, I mean, you can't like the worm. Yeah,

720
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: I didn't tell them how to take it. I just

721
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: said if they did, they die exactly.

722
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: I just told him it was going to kill their kids.

723
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: You know, not my fault that they acted based on that.

724
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: Now with this campaign with a fucking like organization that like, yeah.

725
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: Your multi million dollar propaganda.

726
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: Are Bobby Robert, It's just so interesting that the like

727
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: selective choice. He has to understand what his last name

728
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: means to people, like the fact that he Kennedy saying

729
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: to people, don't do a thing, Like he forgets the

730
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: weight of that. He forgets that, like people take that

731
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: name seriously and he's like, what me who people did?

732
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Couldn't have been what?

733
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: But he totally knows because he uses it all the time.

734
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: But he's investedt using Yeah, selective choice. I mean, look,

735
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: as a man, we're all good at that, right, Like

736
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: that's that's really the superpower of our Wow, Sophie. I mean,

737
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: I don't disagree, but you shouldn't say it on the air.

738
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: You can't just say that.

739
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I selectively say it. Not all of your cash, except

740
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: all of your it's too bad.

741
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: So if he twitter already heard you say the first thing, they.

742
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 3: Are they are angry, they're not happy.

743
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: They're going to lose their mind, really tired of listening

744
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: to men lie.

745
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: But it's so easy, and I know, easy to get

746
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: away with. You should see what I'm doing in Samoa

747
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Jesus boy.

748
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: But at least you tell me the truth about that.

749
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah I did.

750
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: That's that's good.

751
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: At least so In subsequent conversations, Kennedy would suggest that

752
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: the measles epidemic had in fact been caused by the vaccines.

753
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: We also claimed that allowing dozens of people to die

754
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 2: by inciting vaccine hesitancy was an experiment quote to measure

755
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: health outcomes following the national the natural experiment created by

756
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 2: the national respite from vaccines. And if that's the case,

757
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: I'd say we learned what happens when you have a

758
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: natural respite from vaccine. Yeah, that's.

759
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: Experiment. You need to get in the lab again, Bobby,

760
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: the lab being like fucking the world, Like, I.

761
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: Think we might need to do another experiment. No, I'm

762
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: not going to make a Kennedy assassination reference, but you

763
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: know what I was gonna say.

764
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: But there's like the implication, was there, Yeah, Robert, Bobby.

765
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: It's always Bobby's So.

766
00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: That's infuriating. We will, that's like, just do it and

767
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: if anything like because he said he didn't do it,

768
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: he didn't do it, and didn't even do it, do

769
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: it that and then he's like, well, yeah, I did it.

770
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: It was experiment and it fucking ruled.

771
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: It was great.

772
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: What are these two thoughts you have?

773
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Like you is wrong with you?

774
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: What's fucking wrong with you?

775
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: He's such a piece of ship. Now, you know. Again,

776
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: in an ethical society, I think the way you would

777
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: deal with this guy would involve a catapult and the sea.

778
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: I think you would catapult him into the sea, right,

779
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: I think we should catapult more people into the sea.

780
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 3: A large lake.

781
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, maybe one of the Great.

782
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: Lakes, really really big lake.

783
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, we've got we've got some big legs.

784
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: We have options for bodies of water to catapult people into.

785
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: But in our society, that's not how we punish this

786
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: sort of thing. Instead, Kennedy was feted by some of

787
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: the wealthiest and most influential celebrities around. He got to

788
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: guest on the Joe Rogan podcast, and he published six

789
00:41:49,560 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 2: books of vaccine disinformation and donations to his charity doubled. Yeah. Yeah, sorry,

790
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't think you're able to write

791
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: all those You.

792
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: Don't think you're doing that, man, Just do too, Like

793
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: that's plausible, And held.

794
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: An outline and had a ghost writer come in.

795
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: They wrote the titles for these books.

796
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe God, And they're not good.

797
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: Titles, of course they're not.

798
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: Now, Kennedy has also made repeated statements that he believes

799
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: in a link between vaccines and autism. I should not

800
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: need to explain that this is whoy. The reason why

801
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: autism rates seem to have skyrocketed is that it wasn't

802
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: the thing that we diagnosed or recognized for a very

803
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: long time. So when you start to realize that it

804
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: is one thing, it will look like there's a surge

805
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: in it. That's not what's happened. Right, Yeah, oftentimes kids.

806
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: You know that we now know our children who have autism,

807
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 2: you would diagnose them look like one of a dozen

808
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: other things.

809
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: Right, pattern recognizing, categorizing species. We like categorizing things and

810
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: then recognizing pat.

811
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: We like that, but we do not like critical rational thought.

812
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: Not our favorite thing. No, Yeah, or are K Junior

813
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: has stated that increase in autism rates is a literal holocaust.

814
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: Now you might notice there's some stuff that's messed up

815
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: about that because the Holocaust killed people and children with

816
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: autism are alive.

817
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: That's a good point. Thank you for bring that up.

818
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: Children are doing fine. Yes, they're not dead. They're living

819
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: full and happy lives. I what a fucking weird thing

820
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: to say, What a weird thing?

821
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: It's especially weird because he can't keep to one side

822
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: of the Holocaust comparisons, because he is also compared being

823
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: a wealthy anti vaxer who gets to go on the

824
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: most influential media programs in the world, as being like

825
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Anne Frank.

826
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: He's a victim of the Hall And I know what

827
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: you want to say.

828
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: Stuck in the attic of Joe Rogan's fucking podcast.

829
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: Like fucking like attic is fucking above a studio and

830
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: like below.

831
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what if and Frank had been one of

832
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: the most influential media personalities of her.

833
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: Day, I gotta go on this billion dollar podcast.

834
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also what if no one had ever tried

835
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: to hurt her?

836
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: Also, I don't know, have you heard, but I'm a Kennedy.

837
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and she had half a billion dollars. Other

838
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: than that, great comparison.

839
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: And like just sexually harassing everybody he meets.

840
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of reasons not to compare him.

841
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: A lot of reasons Frank. Also a lot of reasons

842
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: not to say that kids with autism are like victims

843
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: of the Holocaust.

844
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ah, it's great.

845
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: He's like I never you know, like from the beginning obviously,

846
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: but like, man, he really ramped it up.

847
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he does. He does. By the end here,

848
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: we're fully of like world class piece of shit terrator. Now.

849
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Bobby and his organizations also did a lot to spread

850
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories that COVID is somehow ethnically targeted against people

851
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: who are not Jewish or Chinese, a thing that is

852
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: not possible. All this disinformation caused him to suffer my

853
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: old consequences during that brief shining period in the early pandemic,

854
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: when some social media sites occasionally punished people for trying

855
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: to spread vaccine hesitancy. Right Meta banned his Instagram account

856
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: once the COVID pandemic took off, and Kennedy sued the

857
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: Biden administration for this, blaming them based on absolutely nothing whatsoever,

858
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: for pressuring Zuckerberg.

859
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: Oh you need to get Matt Tybee on the case.

860
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Joe Biden got me banned from Instagram.

861
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: The Instagram files, Mark, we got a good I don't

862
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: know if.

863
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: Zuck can be fucked like that.

864
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: No, he like, he's certainly not going like it's just.

865
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just sat with that statement.

866
00:45:50,800 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm reacting to everything. It's a collective face, it's a ah,

867
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: you wouldn't get pocked like that, though, You're right, Yeah,

868
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. Man, Go call Joe Biden. You're a Kennedy. Like,

869
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: go ask Joe Biden.

870
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: You're a Kennedy. Yeah. With that patented Kennedy magic, Bobby

871
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: turned getting banned into a cause worthy of breaking his

872
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: lifelong absence from personal involvement in electoral politics, and he

873
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: turned it into the core of his presidential campaign. Vanity

874
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: Fair quotes a relative of saying social media was his stash.

875
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: In banning his account put him into withdrawal. If so,

876
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: we might see his present campaign as a relapse. Bobby

877
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: Kennedy is now shooting up the heroine of political prominence.

878
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: Multiple sources have noted that he remains obsessed with the

879
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: loss of eight hundred thousand followers, for which he blames

880
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: Joe Biden. I found one New Yorker interview where the

881
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: journalist pointed out, Hey, you're like one of the most

882
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: vocal and heard men on planet Earth, with access to

883
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: like the Joe Rogan Show and everything. How how do

884
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: you claim that you're persecuted? And he responded, I am

885
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: since I declared for president, but before that I was deplatformed.

886
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: I was deplatformed completely from eight hundred thousand followers were

887
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: taken for me on Instagram at the behest of the

888
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: White House again house. No, there's a thing that happens,

889
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: can happen with addicts when after an extended period of sobriety,

890
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: a damn breaks, and with Bobby, the damn breaking let

891
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: out a flood of narcissism. Right, he doesn't fall back

892
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: into drugs as far as we know, but he's treating

893
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: fame and social media that way right up to.

894
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: His arm, right totally. Yeah, I don't want, you know,

895
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: don't need to go on a tangent, but like I

896
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: feel like Russell Brand still a lot with that exact

897
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: thing of like, yep, you replace it with conspiracies or

898
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: right now it's catholicism, but you know you need to

899
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: fill that space. Yeah, And there are a lot of

900
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: unhealthy options out there that are that exists in order

901
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 3: to keep you there, right, I mean to make it.

902
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: Right, that are made to be addicted.

903
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: They're designed for that exact thing.

904
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So one of the

905
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: things that Bobby can't accept that I think plays into

906
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: all this is that he is now an old man.

907
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, he hasn't aged, didn't I would say prior

908
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: to this, you wouldn't say he'd aged terribly. But he's

909
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: an old man, right and when he you know, so

910
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: he starts, he starts shooting up steroids. Basically right when

911
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 2: he comes out to announce his presidential campaign in April

912
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, people who had known him for

913
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: years were shocked by how he looked. He's all puffy

914
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: and bloated with steroids. He says that he's on organic testosterone, which, like,

915
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: you're just on gear, man, You're just on gear. I'm sorry,

916
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if the gear is organic. My meth amphetamines.

917
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: Organic, all natural.

918
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: It's not. It's just you're on test brother, Like, and

919
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're on other shit, but like, come on.

920
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: One close family friend described him as unrecognizable now Bobby's

921
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: presidential campaign, whar's the drag of an independent grassroots effort,

922
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: but there's funding behind it from some of the most

923
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: powerful and wealthy people in this country. His VP pick

924
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: is Nicole Shanahan, who you may not know much about,

925
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: but she is the ex wife of Sergey Brinn and

926
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: got the job because she has ex wife of Sergei

927
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: bren money that she can throw into the campaign. Vanity

928
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: Fair explains that additional funding came from quote Timothy Mellon,

929
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: an heir to the Mellon banking fortune, who has given

930
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars the super Pack supporting Kennedy while also

931
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: giving fifty million to Donald Trump's campaign, an alignment of

932
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: interests that critics suspect the strategic financing Kennedy's campaign to

933
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: draw votes from Joe Biden and therefore boost Trump. His

934
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: campaign manager is his own daughter in law, Amaryllis Fox,

935
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: a former CIA agent and wife of Bobby the Third,

936
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: himself an actor and screenwriter who once ran a website

937
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: dedicated to fact checking political statements. The two meditt burning

938
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: Man is just the most incredible group of people.

939
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: H to see that. I got to sentence this stone add.

940
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: No, of course not. In the immediate wake of the

941
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: assassination attempt, Trump, who back in May had called Bobby

942
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: a wasted protest vote, started calling for him to receive

943
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: Secret Service protection. Now to be Frank, I don't disagree

944
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 2: with this. I think another dead Kennedy would not improve

945
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: the sanity of our domestic political situation. Yeah, But the

946
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: aftermath of that led Trump to reach out to RFK

947
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Junior personally. The two had a phone call, which Kennedy

948
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: filmed himself taking for reasons that are somewhat unclear, but

949
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: very likely related to the brain worm.

950
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's usually that right, like Yeah.

951
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: An article by the AP describes the scene. The video

952
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: shows Kennedy listening on a speaker phone as Trump shares

953
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: disproven claims about childhood vaccines, an issue that has helped

954
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: Kennedy amass a loyal following. Trump also appears to pitch

955
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: Kennedy on endorsing his campaign. I would love you to

956
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: do so, Trump tells Kennedy, and I think it will

957
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: be so good for you and so big for you,

958
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: and we're going to win. Kennedy leaked the video of

959
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: this call again for unclear reasons. I'm not sure why

960
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: it got out. Subsequent reporting has provided us with more details.

961
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: In a shock to those who saw our FK Junior's

962
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: campaign as a Trump op, the calls apparently featured Bobby

963
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: begging for a quid pro quote job in exchange for

964
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: endorsing Trump, and doing so to such a blatant extent

965
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: that it worried Trump's staffers. Right, they were probably okay

966
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: with actually giving him something, but the way he mentioned it,

967
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: they were like, well, shit, if he's recording this or something,

968
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: we could be in a lot of trouble.

969
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, which, you know, it's probably why he was recording it.

970
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: I guess maybe maybe.

971
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: Now our FK Junior wanted to secure himself a post

972
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: overseeing health and safety in the next Trump administration. Discussions

973
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 2: between the two during this recorded call included possible jobs

974
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: he could get at the Cambinet level because that doesn't

975
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: require Senate confirmation, and this would have been an exchange

976
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: for Kennedy dropping out and endorsing Trump. Further information has

977
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: since come out that provides, I think a concrete idea

978
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: of what Bobby would seek to do if given a

979
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: position of power in a presidential adm minute, and unfortunately,

980
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: it's something that gels all too well with some of

981
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: the plans members of the fascist right have already put forward.

982
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 2: In a virtual Latino town hall last week, Kennedy floated

983
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: the idea of wellness farms, which is these are basically

984
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: American gulags, right. He wants you to be able to

985
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: send drug addicts and people who are on antidepressants for

986
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: years of mandatory work therapy. Right, not just people who

987
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: are like convicted of drug possession, but people who are

988
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: on eighth D meds. He describes the goal of these

989
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: facilities as to reparent people. And of course, since Kennedy

990
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: believes cell phone radiation is poisonous, people in turned in

991
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: these camps would not have access to the Internet or

992
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: any way to communicate to the outside world. So that's cool,

993
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: good Nabel.

994
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: It's so I mean, he's not the only one. This

995
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: is so blatant and weird and like it's just so funny.

996
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: So many people on the right just trying to like

997
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: portray themselves as like, you know, we're like the Party

998
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: of Freedom, and then half their ideas are like, well,

999
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: put people in camps obviously to work, but also people

1000
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: they can't vote, sure, like we we should only have

1001
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: like the head of the household vote or whatever it is.

1002
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: Where it's just like so anti the thing they are

1003
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: desperately trying to pretend that they are. I don't know

1004
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: if it's going to work for that long. Yeah, I

1005
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: don't know.

1006
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: If I don't know either. It seems like very suddenly

1007
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: it may have stopped working as well. I guess we'll

1008
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: see how long this vibe shift lasts, but we'll see.

1009
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: I think it, like so so many things coalesced at

1010
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: the same time, but like Biden just kind of fading

1011
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: into the background really opened things up. I think for

1012
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: people to realize, like, oh, look at these freaks and

1013
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: look at the flawed but mostly normal people. Yeah, and

1014
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: really really up that contrast, because when you contrast the

1015
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: freaks with like this old goat, it's like, what can

1016
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: you say. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see

1017
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: if it lasts.

1018
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: We'll see if it lasts, you know. I do think

1019
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: it's interesting. I'm kind of compelled by what we've seen,

1020
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: like because it seems like there's some evidence that people

1021
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: within Trump world, or people backing him, if not the

1022
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: campaign itself, wanted to push and support Bobby because they

1023
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: thought he could take enough votes away to hurt Biden.

1024
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: And it kind of seems like a lot of the

1025
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: evidence suggests he takes more votes from Trump, and I'm

1026
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: kind of under I'm wondering if what we've saw what

1027
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: we saw from Trump offering him this job as like

1028
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: a result of kind of panic over that. We we

1029
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: we set that we thought we had control of this guy,

1030
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: and specifically we thought we had control of how he

1031
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: was going to like play in the world.

1032
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna he's running as a Democrat that he's

1033
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: independence so he's going to take some Democrats, but like

1034
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party generally, and the electorate kind of rejected

1035
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 3: him generally.

1036
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, not work. He's yeah, he's kind of

1037
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: gone rogue. So I don't know, maybe we'll see how

1038
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: that works.

1039
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: We'll see. It is funny how like they they keep

1040
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: doing that, like they keep sort of like realizing like,

1041
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: oh wait, we miscalculated all this, Like from like honestly

1042
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: from the day after we recorded Part one and two,

1043
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: from like that moment on, it's just been like they

1044
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: don't know what they're doing. They don't know how to

1045
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: react to anything that happens, they don't know the messaging

1046
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 3: they need to go forward with any event, and it

1047
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 3: just seems like a like a two to three week

1048
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: long just sort of like crumbling this, you know, house

1049
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: of what's flimsier than cards, it's the house of posted toilet.

1050
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1051
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought that they crammed the whole, right, is

1052
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: this coalition of all of the weird, the like the

1053
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: bad weird in this country. And they crammed it into

1054
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: a tiny sack, and you know, it felt like it

1055
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: had enough weight to it that they could swing it

1056
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 2: and do some damage. But as soon as the sack

1057
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: breaks open, like now now there's just nutso ship everywhere,

1058
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: and people it's every at the guy who was swinging

1059
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: the sack, and there's an element of.

1060
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: Like, oh, they're just they're just swinging the sack at

1061
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: like this old guy who like, understand I don't.

1062
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: Really like him. This isn't my problem, right.

1063
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, that guy's gone. Now it's just

1064
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: like quld swinging your sack around this get what are

1065
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: you doing?

1066
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's wrong with you.

1067
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1068
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: I should note before we leave, the entire Kennedy family

1069
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: basically has disavowed Bobby, all of his siblings that are

1070
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: left alive. Everybody has been like and he got he

1071
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: got pushed out of River Keeper to his involvement with

1072
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: these charities because they were like, you can't one day

1073
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: come on and be like climate change is real, we

1074
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: have to deal with it, and then the next day

1075
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: be like vaccines aren't real, right, Like you're you're you're

1076
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: hurting the cause at this point by being tied to

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Speaker 2: this ship.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, does he even say that climate change

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Speaker 3: is real anymore?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you said it lately, because he's

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Speaker 2: like talked about it in the past Al Gore did

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Speaker 2: the four book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems like it's something he would, you know,

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Speaker 3: like there's that group of people who've like kind of

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Speaker 3: uh gravitated towards like, well it's not it's either like

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Speaker 3: it it is real, but it's not a big deal,

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Speaker 3: or like it was a big deal but we kind

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Speaker 3: of fixed it so we don't need to do anything

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Speaker 3: about it anymore. Yeah, curious about that camp, but me too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Cody, that's the Showdy.

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Speaker 3: You did it?

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Speaker 2: How you doing.

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Speaker 3: Now? I'm great? Thanks so much for the show, toy

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Speaker 3: and the knowledge of Uh, I learned too much about

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Speaker 3: this guy.

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Speaker 2: We all know too much about this guy.

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Speaker 1: Now, no career you're interested in getting a pet hawk.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like.

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Speaker 3: A little bit like, thank you so much. I think

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Speaker 3: that my talk and Kat would not enjoy that. I

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Speaker 3: would love it if Bobby just started carrying the Hawk

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Speaker 3: around like a hawk and become a hawk guy like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: at least then, yeah, there's something fun about it instead

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Speaker 3: of just like, well, it's kind of killing people and

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Speaker 3: lying about it, except for all of the killing getting

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Speaker 3: babysitters to oil them up.

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Speaker 4: God ah god, well but only her, he only ever

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Speaker 4: did to her. So yeah, yeah, anyway, Well.

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Speaker 3: We're anyway, thanks for having me. Check me out online,

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Speaker 3: Doctor Jacody. On social media. I've got a podcast called

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Speaker 3: even More News and a web YouTube show called Some

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Speaker 3: More News. It's every Wednesday usually. We just did an

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Speaker 3: episode about Tim Poole. We got some Jordan Peterson climate

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Speaker 3: change stuff coming up. I don't know when this is

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Speaker 3: gonna come out. I have a band called the Hot Shapes.

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Speaker 3: We're on bandcamp and SoundCloud. Check it out and listen

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Speaker 3: to stuff.

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Speaker 1: Check out a cool Zone Media's newest show, hosted by

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Speaker 1: Molly Conger called Weird Little Guys. On the day of

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Speaker 1: this episode is release. Episode zero and episode one are

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Speaker 1: out now, Robert anything else, No.

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Speaker 2: I'm done, I'm tired. I'm gonna go nap.

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Speaker 3: Goodbye. Yeah, me too. Hi.

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