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Speaker 1: To the Black Guy Who Tips podcast. I listen because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackoutis podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Rod joined is always on my cost and

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Speaker 2: we're live on a Tuesday, ready to do some podcasting

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Speaker 2: rush hour podcasting for y'all driving home from work somehow

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Speaker 2: watching this video but also hopefully paying attention to the road.

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Speaker 2: Maybe at stop plays, Maybe you just have the phone

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Speaker 2: turned down with the volumes up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a lot going on out there

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Speaker 3: in the world.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who am I to judge. Just be

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Speaker 2: careful at any rate. If you're listening to this later,

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Speaker 2: you already know.

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Speaker 3: We have a guest. Today's guest is.

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Speaker 2: A podcaster, stand up comedian friend who's new stand up

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Speaker 2: special Rennie or Reenie is if you want to pronounce

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Speaker 2: it the correct way, drops on YouTube tomorrow, eleven nineteen

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Speaker 2: at eight pm Eastern Standard time. It's the homie Money

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Speaker 2: Mike Caplan is what they call them when no one

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Speaker 2: that he doesn't know about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Finally, this is the first time that I felt

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Speaker 4: the most seen. Uh, nobody has ever called me by

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Speaker 4: my true name, Money. Mike Kaplan here. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Always a pleasure to be here. Love the love and

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Speaker 4: the chat. I like when Rod, when you said I

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Speaker 4: hope if you're driving home, you're not watching, somebody wrote,

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Speaker 4: I'm not watching, but they are texting, right, So.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry using like a series or like a speaking

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll be careful out there on the road, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be the reason anybody's going, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, going home to the hospital or going to

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Speaker 2: the hospital or something on our behalf.

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Speaker 4: Mike has tricks, Thank you for asking. Tricks are good

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Speaker 4: or tricks is good, It depends. I'm I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: be here. I love talking to y'all. I know that

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Speaker 4: frequently it happens when I have something big to share about,

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Speaker 4: but I'm always Here's the thing I know. Our history

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Speaker 4: is such that you know, I came on your podcast

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Speaker 4: years ago, and then what in like twenty seventeen or so,

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Speaker 4: I was like, hey, can I come back? And then

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Speaker 4: we didn't talk for years, and then in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: I was like, hey, can I come back? And you

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Speaker 4: were like, I thought you were mad at me for

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Speaker 4: three years and like now since then, I you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm always happy to come back. I mean, in fact,

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about this, but I would be more concerned,

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Speaker 4: like truly, like whatever, I feel like. Different people have

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Speaker 4: different communication libidos, you know, like and I have a

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Speaker 4: high one. I am in touch with a lot of

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Speaker 4: people who I can hear about a lot of good friends.

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Speaker 4: And what is a good friend. Sometimes it's a friend

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Speaker 4: you've known for a long time. Sometimes it's a friend

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Speaker 4: that you speak too frequently. Sometimes it's just somebody that

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Speaker 4: known them or how frequently you speak to them, right,

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Speaker 4: and so regardless of how frequently we speak and how

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Speaker 4: long we've known each other, which is now going on

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Speaker 4: quite a long time, I am always happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: And I put that forth like truly as often as

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Speaker 4: you would have me, Like you know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: ask to become a member of your marriage, but I

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Speaker 4: would be here, you know, on a on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 4: So I'm happy that I'm here right now. That's one

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Speaker 4: of the ways that tricks are.

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Speaker 3: I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that one you are what I like to call

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Speaker 2: a communication ethical slut.

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Speaker 3: Right you you're you're out in the streets.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: If you guys have ever I met Mike Kaplan and

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Speaker 2: got on his email list, you're getting something from him

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Speaker 2: at least once a month, Yes, sometimes on special occasions

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Speaker 5: To do that.

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Speaker 2: And then all the time I see things that specifically

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Speaker 6: I would completely understand that optometrist looks just like you.

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Speaker 6: So that every time I go get my eyes checked,

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Speaker 6: I always think of you.

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Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: And if sweet, can I say, real quick yes, I

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Speaker 4: would love to have I don't know if you have

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Speaker 4: a photo. It's not urgent, but at some point we

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Speaker 4: should have a photo. Put up a photo of your

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Speaker 2: I really should I really, you know what, next time

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Speaker 2: I see him, I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask him can I take a picture of him?

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Speaker 3: Because uh, he not.

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Speaker 2: Just reminds me of you in the way he looks,

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Speaker 2: but he's also extremely thorough and explaining stuff. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: able to give it the same energy the one million

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Speaker 3: He's like, oh, and you know, you might need buyvocals

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, he told me the same thing last year.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just as I'm just as intrigued.

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Speaker 4: And if you want to, you can buy focals. You

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Speaker 4: can get him for free. If you have get free focals.

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Speaker 4: You know, however much however you want to get your vocals.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna need some vocals though, yes, one focal if.

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Speaker 5: Not by that's exactly.

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Speaker 6: This new test where we don't have to have drops

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Speaker 6: like there's nothing wrong with your eyes, but you keep

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Speaker 5: They start having vision problems.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, I want to catch you in advance,

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Speaker 5: And so it's hilarious because he always asks me, do

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, no, I don't like poking in my

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Speaker 5: He asks me every year the same question.

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Speaker 2: Real contact, trying to avoid is your finger touching your eyeball?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love, I love that.

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Speaker 4: I love. I mean, I've been highed glasses since I

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Speaker 4: very reason that you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: It's important to prevent problems before they start to learn

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Speaker 2: And when she first got it done, I was the

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Speaker 2: aren't you using it?

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Speaker 2: more than that. They go and they do like macular

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Speaker 2: that like degenerative diseases that may be coming that you

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Speaker 3: If you know, it was all her idea now I

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Speaker 5: Of course I'm taking credit now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do, delightful. What's yours is yours, what's y'all's

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Speaker 2: She's the best kind of evangelistic person because she does

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Speaker 2: which I don't have that in me, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I need to build up a resume of change before

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, what y'all need to do is

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Speaker 3: It's like, how long have you been going to the gym?

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Speaker 3: Five minutes ago?

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Speaker 2: But that we're not asking that, but what we all

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Speaker 2: you said ten years, it's been twelve years. Wow, you

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Speaker 2: were first on our show June ninth, twenty thirteen, wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sorry. June fifth, twenty thirteen. It was

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Speaker 2: episode four eighty five.

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Speaker 5: Oh eighty five. We was three digits.

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Speaker 2: This episode needs No Title was the title of this episode.

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Speaker 4: Ah, I must have told you about the book I

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Speaker 4: read called this book needs No Title or else. H

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I'll tell you this when you come on.

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Speaker 2: These titles are clever.

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Speaker 3: I'm not not.

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Speaker 2: Too nin on horn, but I feel like we vibe

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Speaker 3: Six forty on the bus getting robbed.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that made me want to listen to it.

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Speaker 5: Somebody get robbed.

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Speaker 4: I think you're one hundred percent right. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: have I ever told you this? I feel like maybe

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Speaker 4: I have. We've talked a lot over the years. But

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Speaker 4: I had this this safe you know, when I was

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Speaker 4: What I mean, You can't you can't get me like

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Speaker 4: prophecy more often than not, Like believe you can or

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Speaker 5: And put you down for good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we should. I mean if we can try

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Speaker 4: We need to talk, yes, talk, we need to talk

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Speaker 4: because if we don't talk, then we don't know what's

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Speaker 4: going on with you. We need to talk because i'd

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Speaker 1: You know what, right, I don't know. I can't read

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Speaker 3: That's true. It's a gift man.

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Speaker 2: So you have recently recorded a special that is coming

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Speaker 2: named Reenie. I just happened to notice this is Harry.

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Speaker 2: Is a coincidence your girlfriend's named Reenie?

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Speaker 1: I just assign the titles and like what Reenie? We got?

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Speaker 1: Riot is Reenie? Yes?

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Speaker 4: you know, creatively, and so we both you know, co

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00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 4: wrote the show, and so it's about our relationship and

440
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Speaker 4: how we've been together almost ten years now and we

441
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Speaker 4: are not married, and a lot of times when people

442
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 4: hear that, they're like, well, when are you gonna get started?

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Speaker 4: You know, like obviously, like you're wasting time, as though

444
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Speaker 4: if we live together unmarried for one hundred years, they'd be.

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Speaker 1: Like, and then we die.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna We're not gonna die. We're gonna say thousands

447
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 4: of years whatever it is. But at a certain point,

448
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 4: if we never got married and then you know, the

449
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 4: the universe ends, then whoever's there in the next universe

450
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 4: is like, man, pretty a shame they never began their relationship,

451
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Speaker 4: you know, they never got that paper work, which is

452
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: now gone in the extinguished Sons of all Time. But

453
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 4: the point is that people are like, oh, as if

454
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: all of our relationship has happened before we got started.

455
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Speaker 4: But then a friend of mine, Ryan Reese, had been

456
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: working on a documentary also called Before We Get Started,

457
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: because he works as a warm up comedian, so that's

458
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: a perfect name for a documentary about warm up comedy,

459
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: Before we Get Started? And I'd had him on my

460
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Speaker 4: podcast and we talked about it, and I'd forgotten that

461
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 4: that was the title of his documentary years earlier, and

462
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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, hey, man. When I found out,

463
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Speaker 4: I was like, looks like we got the same title.

464
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Speaker 4: And he's like, but I told you about that five

465
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Speaker 4: years ago, and I was like right, and I listened

466
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Speaker 4: back to my podcast episode. I'm like, there, I am

467
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 4: saying that that's the name of this thing. Absolutely, you

468
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Speaker 4: got me. So then we got started. After that, well,

469
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Speaker 4: then what's the best name for this show? What is

470
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Speaker 4: this show about? If not Before we Get Started? And

471
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 4: you know, my name's already, like, it's Mike Kaplan, it's

472
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Speaker 4: a Mike Kaplan comedy special. I'm there, but it is,

473
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Speaker 4: you know, equal parts created by and about Reenie, So

474
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: we're like Reenie. No, there's no comedy specials out there

475
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: already named Reenie?

476
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: Are there?

477
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Speaker 4: And we didn't do an extensive look, and I hope

478
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 4: there aren't, but I think I think this is the

479
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Speaker 4: number one comedy special named Greenie. And it is named

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Speaker 4: because that is Reenie's name, and you asked me in

481
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Speaker 4: a funny way that led to this conversation, thank you.

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Speaker 2: What if Chris Rock comes out with a special like

483
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Speaker 2: Tonight and it's like Reenie for no reason, He's just like.

484
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Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean he had Tambourine.

485
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Speaker 3: He's like Tamberini.

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Speaker 1: No, Reenie, Tambourini.

487
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Speaker 2: I feel like you haven't seen you in person and

488
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Speaker 2: talk to you and all this stuff. I feel like

489
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Speaker 2: your stand up specials would have twenty backup titles like

490
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Speaker 2: already even so is coming up with the title difficult?

491
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Speaker 2: Is it a thing you get locked into early and

492
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Speaker 2: then go okay, I'll construct a special around this idea

493
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Speaker 2: or is it fluid? Because it sounds like you went

494
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Speaker 2: from an emper fake I'm perfect to before we get

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Speaker 2: started to now, RENI like, how fluid are your titles

496
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: to your to your stand up specials?

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I would say it has it evolved over the years,

499
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: like because you know, earlier on.

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Speaker 1: My albums were not necessarily themed.

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00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: So like the first one, Vegan mind meld isn't all

502
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: about being vegan, isn't all about mind melding. There's like

503
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Speaker 4: one joke in it that mentions that line. I'm like,

504
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: that's a funny line, and I think kind of says

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Speaker 4: something about who I am and the kind of comedy

506
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: that I do, Like it isn't like what the show

507
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: is about, but you know, it says something. And then

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Speaker 4: Meet Robot was my second title that I came up

509
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: with for my next album that that was named because

510
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: I have this this digital recorder that I record my

511
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 4: ideas into, which I call Robot. And then so whenever

512
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 4: I say something funny, a friend might be like, hey,

513
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Speaker 4: you should record that in Robot.

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Speaker 1: And one day Robot wasn't working, like.

515
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 4: I'd run out of batteries, and they were like, but

516
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 4: you just said something funny, how are you gonna record it?

517
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: And I guess you're gonna have to hold onto it.

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00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: In Meat Robot, behind that the old Brain and we're

519
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: all kind of meat robots in a Way, and then

520
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: the next one was Small, Dork and Handsome, which just

521
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 4: again name has nothing to do with the actual content

522
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: of the hour, when it does have something to do

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00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: with the content of me. And the first album that

524
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: I that I did feel like the title represented the

525
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: material well was No Kidding because it was an album

526
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 4: about not wanting children, and then after that it was

527
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Speaker 4: going It was Aka, which was originally going to be

528
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Speaker 4: titled All Killing a Side, but it came out at

529
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Speaker 4: the beginning of the pandemic, and because of that, we

530
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 4: probably talked about it. We're like, maybe, you know, in

531
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: two months into the pandemic, not putting out an album

532
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 4: like that front and center, even though it's all Killing

533
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Speaker 4: a Side and the hours about not murdering and not

534
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: death and you know, about love and kindness. But like

535
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: people sometimes just don't read the article. They just look

536
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Speaker 4: at the headline. They're like killing no thank you, And

537
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: so we're like, okay, AKA. So I feel like there

538
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: is lineage of you know, there's a history of coming

539
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: up with you know, having to sort of that one. Actually,

540
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: the term the title all Killing Aside I didn't even

541
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 4: come up with. It was I brought the show to

542
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: Edinburgh and my my manager Dave Wrath is a really funny,

543
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: smart guy, and he was the one. Yeah, I mean

544
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: if there's no W so it's an ironic name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good.

546
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 4: But I'll say a related topic is I love when

547
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Speaker 4: I've put out you know, probably close to close to ten.

548
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 4: I think of at least nine albums, you know and

549
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: specials total, like nine hours of comedy that I've created

550
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: and then recorded, and then I have to come up

551
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 4: with or get to come up with track listings. I

552
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: love coming up with track listens because that's like I mean,

553
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: the title of the whole project is like a bigger

554
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: not like pressure, but a bigger there the stakes are higher,

555
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: like this is what everyone's going to see, like can

556
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Speaker 4: it represent the entire thing? But for each album, like

557
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: in the beginning, I was just like, oh, this one's

558
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: about I don't know, Brad Pitton divorce. This one's about

559
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: tigers and open relationships, this one's about you know, beaches

560
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: and balls, you know, And so it's like fun to

561
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: like you get to make an extra joke with each

562
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: track that you name if you want to, or it's

563
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 4: just fun to like be like it's about this, this

564
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: and that you know, uh that I think one was

565
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 4: about like Batman and vampire storys, like it's about Batman

566
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: and non Batman, you know, different kinds of I.

567
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Speaker 2: Love the I love the granular like title stuff, and

568
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: also like I think that's kind of what separates, not separates,

569
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 2: that's not fair, but I think the when you're really nerdy,

570
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 2: when you're really in your groove. Like I love Kendrick Lamar.

571
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: He's my probably my favorite rapper right now. And one

572
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: of the things I love about him is that every

573
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: album is kind of a puzzle.

574
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: It is and it requires multiple listening.

575
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like a puzzle in the way where like

576
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: you can't really go too deep, you know, like like

577
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: like even the most weirdest thought that you're having is

578
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: like he may have meant that you should probably like

579
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: go double check that work. I just saw recently his

580
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: last album, the double album not gn X but before

581
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: this Mister Morale and The Big Step Religious I think

582
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: one of the most important albums of our time.

583
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: But it's a double album and each album has.

584
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: Like the same number of tracks, and if you like

585
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: take the tracks and line them up next to each

586
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: other and then reverse the order. The last song is

587
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: named Mirror, and it's a mirror of the first track.

588
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: Like it's one side is like how the world is,

589
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: and then the other side is how he is as

590
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: a person because every his belief and the therapist that

591
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: he has on the philosopher therapist he has on different

592
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: interluds is the world is a mirror of us, and

593
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: we're a mirror of the world. And I'm like, this is.

594
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: The kind of shit I'm talking, bro, make me work.

595
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: Like, Like, I know some people just want to, like,

596
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: you know, like listen to the album and that's it,

597
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: but like I kind of enjoy that part of my

598
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: brain tickling.

599
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: That's how I've listened to music.

600
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 6: Like whenever I get into like an album that I

601
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 6: really like, I am the person and I've done this

602
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 6: with a lot of artists. I will sit and I

603
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: will listen to the album from like beginning to end.

604
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: Then for me, I sometimes I will listen to that

605
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 6: same album just just me for mus on end And

606
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 6: a lot of times I feel like for me personally,

607
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 6: depending on an artist, I get a bit each time

608
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 6: I get a better Kendrick, I have to do this

609
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 6: with you get a better understanding. Things start to kind

610
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 6: of link together, you start having more more ebbs and flows.

611
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: I know, I like when I like something and I

612
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: know I won't understand it the first time.

613
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: I like that, you know.

614
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: I know some people that's a huge turn off, and

615
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: that's like literally what makes something suck to them?

616
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: Yes, and I hear you, I hear you.

617
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: You know you're allowed to have the experience, but I

618
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: sometimes it's like you can't.

619
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: I can't even really relate.

620
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, no, That's when I knew I was

621
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: gonna like be listening this forever.

622
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: You know.

623
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what this reminds me of?

624
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: Like Number one, the album that I put out in

625
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, AKA also has like a fun like that's

626
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: basically that the album is an entire sort of conceptual palindrome,

627
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: Like it's inception themed. And if you look at the

628
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: track listings, every track has three h three words or

629
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: three concepts in it and they kind of mirror each other.

630
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Kendrick took my idea.

631
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: Maybe, And is that the middle one is inception like

632
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: parallel thinking?

633
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: Perhaps you know, he owes you a Grammy is what

634
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm hearing. He owes you at least one of his

635
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: Grammys or Pulitzer.

636
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: I'll think the Puli. The point is, I think some

637
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: of the I love what you're saying. I really appreciate that.

638
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: The it reminds me also of some of the greatest

639
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: art is stuff that like a child can experience and

640
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: appreciate in one way and then later the adult version

641
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: of yourself, Like the Muppets, Like a child can love

642
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: the Muppets because it's like talking, dancing, singing.

643
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Still it looks. Yeah, it's so great.

644
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: Like I just watched you know, maybe we talked about

645
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: this because it came out like sometime in the past

646
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: couple of years, The Muppets, the Mayhem, just that I

647
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys watch that Mayhem series, Like

648
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: it's so beautiful, like it just it's touching and like

649
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure, like you know, it's there's things in it

650
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: that a child might not understand as well, but a

651
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: child can get it and it I mean be cause

652
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: they it's the sort of thing that a genius, like

653
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: somebody who's like an expert in something like often has

654
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: the capacity to explain super complicated topics. Yeah, like as

655
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Speaker 4: though to a five year old and then can make

656
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Speaker 4: it accessible and understandable in a more universal way. And

657
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: so I feel like that's what like, you know, genius

658
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: artists like especially do.

659
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Speaker 2: I think there's a level of genius too though, like

660
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: you can take this at any level, yes, which is

661
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: like I think it's probably the hardest work to do,

662
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: like because you could make something super heady and like

663
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: this is just for the super smarts. Nobody else is

664
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: gonna get this, and that's okay, but there's a level

665
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: of ability to say, like this is for super smart people,

666
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: but also it can help make you super smart, like

667
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: you the further you dig, the more you get out

668
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: of this thing. And it I mean, like you said,

669
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: it's such a talent and it's such a rare talent

670
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: to be able to possess all those different lenses of

671
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: looking at your own art and go, well, if a

672
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: person's coming at it from this angle, they need I

673
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: would like them to experience this part of it. But

674
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: it's always super impressive. And yet movies things that when

675
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: you watch when you were young, you saw one way

676
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: and then you experience them when you're older, and it's

677
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: like a completely different way. That is also like another

678
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: like beautiful part of life, just like re recontextualizes something

679
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: and being like, oh wait, this whole thing was about divorce.

680
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 5: The whole time or whatever, Like no idea.

681
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: I just thought they were trying to find their way

682
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: home or whatever.

683
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: You know.

684
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like when I was a kid, I watched Ghostbusters,

685
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: but it wasn't until I was an adult that I

686
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: was like, they were women this whole time. This is

687
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: about gender, This is important to societal But I also

688
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: feel like as a comedian, like I started out, you know,

689
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: in my early twenties, and I had because there's like

690
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: you know with the Kendrick you know, idea of like

691
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: the world and yourself, like we're a part of the world,

692
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: but you know, we're a specific part of the world

693
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: that were like a lens that we filter you know,

694
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: our experience sensorily and mentally and physically, and the world

695
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: seems like it's outside of us.

696
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: But really, you know, our.

697
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: Consciousness is the the thing through which everything is happening. Right.

698
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: But I didn't know any of this when I was

699
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: starting out, and I was just like this is fun

700
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 4: Like these words sound weird, right, Yeah, I think are funny.

701
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: This is what I think is meaningful and you can

702
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: as a young comedian, especially as a less experienced comedian,

703
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: you know, you don't have the skills necessarily to translate

704
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: everything from inside to a way that people will understand outside.

705
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: And so I'm just like blah blah, and.

706
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: People are like, no, we don't understand blah blah, and

707
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, but it's so good in here. Like I

708
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: remember when I was a kid, I was thinking, like,

709
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: maybe I'd like to write a book someday. But I

710
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: was like, but I feel like I would have to

711
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: tell everyone who was reading the book everything about my

712
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: life story so that they would have all of the

713
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: context for what I was talking about in the book.

714
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: And that sounds like a lot of work. And of course,

715
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: the work of being an artist, a comedian, a writer,

716
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: a creator of any kind is figuring out what is

717
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: important to tell. Like like Picasso drew an image of

718
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: a bull with like five lines and we're like, oh,

719
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: people like that's a bull, And he can do a

720
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: complete photo realistic one, and that's amazing too. But part

721
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: of his art was, you know, simplifying things to the

722
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: point of abstraction, of almost not being able to tell

723
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: what it is, but being able to tell and like

724
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: that's to say something in like, here's one quick other story.

725
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: My friend Gus, a practicing Buddhist.

726
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: Uh, he told me a story once that he had

727
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: a Buddhist mentor, like a Buddhist teacher come over to

728
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: his house and kind of as a as a fun thing,

729
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: he was like, Oh, I have this really thick book

730
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: of like Buddhist wisdom, and I'll leave this thick book

731
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 4: of teachings out on the coffee table, so maybe he'll

732
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: see it and he'll be like, wow, look at that

733
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 4: big book.

734
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: You must be learning a lot about Buddhist. What a

735
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: good guy. Wow, you're a good Buddhist.

736
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: And the mentor does see it and he picks it

737
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: up and he's like, wow, interesting this is for children

738
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: because in that paradigm he's like a child needs everything

739
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: explained bit by bit. But the books for you know,

740
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: the advanced students are like the thinnest because you've already

741
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 4: got the context. So like like Picasso, like the fewest lines.

742
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: If you if you get it, you get it, you.

743
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Know, you know, it's kind of like the big Dipper.

744
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: I imagine the first person to be like, that's a dipper.

745
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: And they were like What what.

746
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: The fuck are you talking about?

747
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 5: What?

748
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: What are you dipping.

749
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: Those five stars right there?

750
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 5: Dude?

751
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: That's that's the big different that's the little differ. You

752
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: gotta look over there. But they figured it out.

753
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 6: They might with this special that you were doing when

754
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 6: we heard you. I listened to you on Keith and

755
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 6: the Girl, and you were talking about how Reenie helped you,

756
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 6: and you were saying how she would like critique like

757
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: like the things that you were doing on stage and

758
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 6: you know, and things like that.

759
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 5: How did you kind of internalize that?

760
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 6: Like, because and the reason why I'm asking is because

761
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 6: you know, you're actually the one on stage and they're

762
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 6: not like not trying like and it's come from two.

763
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 5: Different perspectives, you know what I'm saying.

764
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 6: So how did you internalize that and use that in

765
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: a positive way? Because enough for some people they would

766
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 6: consider that a critique or you know, not not trying

767
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 6: to not youre telling them what to do, or you know,

768
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 6: some people's pride will hop in. How dare you tell

769
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: me how to do my job that I've been doing

770
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 6: for you know, for this long?

771
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

772
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: Were there things that you felt more like standing firm

773
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: on or or or was everything kind of like, hey,

774
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: whatever you say, it goes right.

775
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Thank you, very generous and thoughtful.

776
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: I will say that we, you know, we've come to

777
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 4: a way of doing things over it probably you know,

778
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: started this creative collaborative process maybe in like twenty eighteen,

779
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: the first time that we went to the Edinburgh Fringe

780
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 4: together and I was doing the show that would become AKA,

781
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 4: and she would, you know, kind of just take notes.

782
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: And she is absolutely she's not, you know, a harsh mistress.

783
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: You know, she's not like it's got to be like

784
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: it was always it was often a question, like a

785
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: curiosity of like she would notice this night you did

786
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: it this way, the next night you did it this way.

787
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: What like what's the difference?

788
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: Or like sometimes she'd be like, I think I like

789
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: it this way for this reason. I feel like this

790
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: is like one of the one of the choruses of

791
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: the song that I continue to sing while I talk

792
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 4: about this process on different posts. Guess is she has

793
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: said she is not a comedian. She doesn't want to

794
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: be a comedian because she likes jokes to make sense.

795
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that isn't always the case. You know,

796
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: sometimes I'm just like, how about this nonsense?

797
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: And it works?

798
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: But then sometimes she'll ask the question of like, but

799
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: what if it also could be as funny, like the

800
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: same thing, like can it be the Muppets and Picasso?

801
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: Can it be you know, Kendrick Lamar and you know,

802
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: the thing that will entertain people of all ages? Can

803
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: it make sense and be as funny? And at first

804
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: I was like a little afraid, you know, I feel

805
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: like or is like concerned. I'm like, it works like this,

806
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: and I don't want to like tinker with it because

807
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: what if we take it apart and try to put

808
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 4: it back together different?

809
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: And it's like what am I losing?

810
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: It's like the people who worried about like but what

811
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: if female Ghostbusters will ruin my child? I'm like, you

812
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 4: can keep watching that movie, your attitude and aging, you know,

813
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: keep what we're not destroying all the old copies, And

814
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: so I would in the beginning, I was like, Okay,

815
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 4: I guess you know, because she is wise and kind

816
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: and she knows me and cares about me and knows

817
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: who I am both on and off stage, Like I

818
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: definitely don't take it as a criticism. We did have

819
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: a part of the process was initially this was a

820
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: very handy way of looking at things. Maybe we've talked

821
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: about this the if somebody comes to you for advice,

822
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: or somebody comes to you with a problem, and you

823
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: don't know if they want advice. Some people they just

824
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: want to unburden, and so the idea some people want

825
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 4: a cheerleader, some people want a coach.

826
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Some people might want a cheerleader.

827
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 4: At one point, if you're like, hey, I already sent

828
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: this in, can you just tell me that it's good, right,

829
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: if you're like a writing submission. But sometimes you're like,

830
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm sending this in tomorrow, can you help me brutally,

831
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: honestly make it better? Because I want it to be

832
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: the best that it can, even if it would could

833
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: hurt my don't worry about hurting my feelings because I

834
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: want to make this art, this project the best that

835
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: I can. And so our process now is generally speaking,

836
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 4: after a show, the show finishes, it's night where you know, hooray,

837
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: it happened, however it went, we go it's cheerleader, cheerleader

838
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: at night, and then the next day, then there can

839
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: be coaching like coach in the morning, cheerleader after because

840
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: then like after the show, it's like, well, I can't

841
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: do anything about it now, But the next day, like

842
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: with the notes, with the ideas, with like oh what

843
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: if what if this idea, then like new possibilities can

844
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: bloom and spark and then we can collaborate and work together.

845
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: And to your question of like I would say most of.

846
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 4: The time, like I trust her, like not just you know, blindly,

847
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: but I'm like, she has good ideas, and when she

848
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 4: expresses them, I listen to them, and I'm like, even

849
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: if I don't know how it's gonna go, I'm like,

850
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: I'll try that. You know, as a comedian you can

851
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: try things night after night, show after show, and I'm like,

852
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: I'll try it, and then we'll listen back and every

853
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: once in a while there's something that we're like, in

854
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: order for this to make the most sense, it has

855
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: to be said in a way where like the funny

856
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: word happens earlier, or like that we might becomes kind

857
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: of a puzzle because like we can see like, yes,

858
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: this would be the most meaningful way to do it,

859
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: but somehow this way might be funnier. Or sometimes I

860
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 4: have just like even in this particular show, there are

861
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: things that I would say that like weren't weren't urgent

862
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 4: to include, but I just liked the way they sounded.

863
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, I like saying this, and so for some

864
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: of them, like, well, I'm gonna do that even if

865
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. If RENI didn't have a if

866
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: she's like okay, you know, you feel strongly go for it.

867
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: Or sometimes if she's like you, I feel strongly like

868
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: that's not my favorite way and it's our show, so

869
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 4: uh we you know, and so that and I'm like, yes, absolutely,

870
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 4: I feel like we both kind of have veto power

871
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: that we.

872
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: Don't frequently use.

873
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: But if something is really strong for one of us,

874
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: then we we both we each will honor the other

875
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: person's feelings in that way and be like, look, unless

876
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever had a situation where we

877
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 4: both felt equally strongly about the same thing, like, because

878
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: I think we would be able to both like, you know,

879
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: and I think if that was so, then I would

880
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: say we would err on the side of taking it

881
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: out or changing it, because you know, there's we have

882
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: so many wonderful, great, meaningful, hilarious ideas like one like

883
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: if one makes one of us not feel the best way,

884
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: then we don't need it.

885
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, man, I'm you know, I always like

886
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: that to coach in the streets, cheerleader in the sheets.

887
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, we don't.

888
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: We don't need to. We don't need to have it

889
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: one way at a time.

890
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: And I think we have a title for this podcast.

891
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna have so many by the end, right we

892
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: always do. It's gonna be like when you come up

893
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: with a standout special title, it's gonna be thirty of these.

894
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: Probably I'll sit through in peruse at the end of

895
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: the thing and be like, what was the thing now

896
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: doing this special? How many times did you like work

897
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: on it?

898
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: So this was probably more than except for like the

899
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: beginning of my stand up career, where I started like

900
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: say two thousand and two and recorded my first album

901
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine. So seven years working on

902
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 4: that first forty five minutes, that first hour, which wasn't

903
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: that I was doing that hour over and over. It

904
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 4: was shielding it and so but other than that, that's

905
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: like the longest I ever worked on one album because

906
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: you have to in the beginning this one just by happenstance,

907
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: because there was a pandemic in the middle, uh, and

908
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 4: the way that it went, I would say, we film,

909
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 4: we filmed or recorded, we taped AKA in twenty nineteen

910
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: and so there that is when, like I would say officially,

911
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: we officially started really like working more on the Renie Show,

912
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: like it existed in like some form, like some of

913
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: the jokes, some of the bits like I might have

914
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: had in my act, you know, in twenty seventeen, in

915
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, but then they started to come together and

916
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 4: the idea to have it be the show about our

917
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: relationship that formed in I would say twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

918
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 4: so and then we filmed it in twenty late twenty

919
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: twenty four.

920
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: So like a year ago.

921
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: So it was at least like five years total, whereas

922
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: most of my other albums and specials were like could

923
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: be two years three I'd say two to three years

924
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: is like the standard. But because of the pandemic, I

925
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 4: didn't perform it a lot during that time, and in fact,

926
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: it was a really interesting process after starting to perform again,

927
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: like I had to relearn it, like I truly like

928
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: the day the first time I think I went to

929
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: like DC to the Arlington Cinema Draft House in like June.

930
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Of twenty twenty one, maybe.

931
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: And I was like, I got I want to do

932
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: this show, but I had to like listen back to

933
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: like multiple recordings of it and like take notes and

934
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: be like, I know it starts like this, I know

935
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: it ends like this, and I know these pieces are

936
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: in the middle, but I didn't, you know, it was

937
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 4: so fluid because it wasn't in my muscle memory anymore

938
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: because it had been like a year year and a

939
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: half since I had even done it. But other than that,

940
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: I would say, you know, then I certainly from twenty

941
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 4: twenty one, like that was the show that I was

942
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: touring the most.

943
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Though then I also started working on like.

944
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: The next show and the next show, so I wasn't

945
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: only doing that show like I know I did in

946
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: Edinburgh twenty twenty three, I did the show like twenty

947
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: five times in a row, and like that was the

948
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: most like densely packed you know, versions of like doing

949
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 4: that show over and over and then like every other month.

950
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: Like by that point, I was like, I kind of

951
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: know it. It's still like tweaks here and there. But

952
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: if I was going to perform at a club like

953
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: you know, five shows over the course of a weekend.

954
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just do the Renie Show all five times.

955
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 4: I would maybe do it like, you know, the early

956
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: show each night, but not the late show, and I

957
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: would like work on newer things or the other hour

958
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: in the other show. But definitely, you know, I would

959
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: say every month if on average, I'm doing you know,

960
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: two club weekends a month, which is maybe what it is,

961
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: maybe it's more, maybe it's less. And if I'm doing

962
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: let's say an average of four or five shows, let's

963
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: say it's two a month, five shows each, so ten

964
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: shows a month. So from twenty twenty one to twenty

965
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: twenty four, let's say that's you know, and let's say

966
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: it's ten months a year, it's just one hundred shows

967
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: probably you know, hundreds of times.

968
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: Wow, oh my god.

969
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: And then that's not even counting just the spots that

970
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: you do where you just like are coming around the

971
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: city and like ten minutes here, hop on a train,

972
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: ten minutes here, like, so you were doing all this

973
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: stuff at the same time. That's that's an insane amount

974
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: of memory to have to hold all that stuff. And

975
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm assuming since you filmed it last year, you've probably

976
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: been doing a bunch of new stuff since last year, too.

977
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, since I don't think that I have performed

978
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: the Reny Show since we filmed it last year, like

979
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: a joke or too, Like there's a little overlap of

980
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 4: like some newer jokes that I have that where I

981
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: also mention her where I feel like literally one one

982
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: or two lines that maybe we'll make it into another

983
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 4: show or maybe we'll you know, shed at a certain point.

984
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, right now, I have like another

985
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: show that I could record tomorrow, you know, in some form,

986
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: and then I have another one where all the pieces

987
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: are there, and if somebody who's like you have a month,

988
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: you know to get it into shape to record it,

989
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 4: you know, I could I could do that. Like one

990
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: is about my relationship with masculinity. One is about my

991
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: grandmother who died five years ago. And then I have

992
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: a new idea that I just sort of had in

993
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: the past few months for the next one, which I'm

994
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: really excited about, which is just sort of about rules

995
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: and like society's rules and our personal rules, and like

996
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: the neurotypical rules and like the guidelines for like different situations,

997
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: you know, socially or professionally or you know, romantically, And

998
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 4: so that's just like when I go on stage now,

999
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: like yeah, I mean if I'm doing sets around New

1000
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: York City, like ten minutes here, fifteen minutes here, like

1001
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 4: all usually be working on some newer things. Like I'll

1002
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: usually have you know, a syllabus, you know, or like

1003
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: a notebook full of like the new jokes, like just

1004
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: set lists that I want to work on that you know.

1005
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll forget one or two, but I'll be like,

1006
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: oh man, I really want to work on these three things,

1007
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: and then sort of riff and expand, and the question

1008
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 4: of like how do you remember everything is one that

1009
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: comes up a lot, and I always like to ask

1010
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: people because I was talking to a fellow comedian the

1011
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: other day who's been doing it maybe like close to

1012
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: ten years, and she's like, I've never gone on stage

1013
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: without like, you know, either having like my some jokes

1014
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: written on my hand or written like you know, a

1015
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: napkin under my you know, just sort of as a

1016
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: security blanket.

1017
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: And that's a lot of people do that.

1018
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: Like I've seen Bill maher specials where like from the

1019
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: back you can see his jokes are like taped to

1020
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: the stage and like that's at.

1021
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: The level of your record.

1022
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: And some people, you know, film with a teleprompter, you know,

1023
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: like that's not to say Like when I did my

1024
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: Comedy Central half hour, they offered we could have the

1025
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: jokes bullet points or word for word in the teleprompter.

1026
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: I think I opted to have the bullet points just

1027
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: in case, you know, like, oh what, here's what I

1028
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: just did, Here's what comes next. But the way that

1029
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: whenever somebody's like, how do you remember an hour's worth

1030
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: of jokes? I always ask this, like do you have

1031
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: any songs memorized? Like you could sing Happy Birthday, you

1032
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: could sing the alphabet song, you could s you probably

1033
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 4: have some favorites, you could sing the Beatles, you could

1034
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: sing outcast whatever you got. You know, you could sing

1035
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: like and how many how long is a song could

1036
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: be like four minutes, five minutes. You probably know twelve songs,

1037
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: and you could sing twelve songs back to back, and

1038
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 4: then you have memorized an hour's worth of content.

1039
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: And this is even even more so.

1040
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: These are songs that I have myself written, and you know,

1041
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: over the course of time, you know, put to put

1042
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: to memory by the vertu by virtue of just.

1043
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: Doing it over and over again.

1044
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: Like, well, if you're if you're a stand up fan

1045
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: or a movie fan, how many of us have a

1046
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: whole stand up hour or movie we know heart?

1047
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: You know by heart?

1048
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 4: I don't.

1049
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can walk on any scene of Half Baked

1050
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: and from that point on, I can give you the

1051
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: whole every line of the every of the movie.

1052
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: And I think it's uh.

1053
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: When I used to wrap it was a similar thing

1054
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: of like, I've done this so much at this point,

1055
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: like I would be we'd all be surprised if I

1056
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: didn't know, like we like I'd be on stage like

1057
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: how the fuck did that even happen?

1058
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: That's never happened before. So I definitely understand. It's just uh.

1059
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: I think for me, having seen your a person haven't

1060
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: watched your specials, you have a vibe that feels so extemporaneous,

1061
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: like it feels like you're you're going to malamitt it

1062
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: and it's going so fast, and like no one can

1063
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: memorize anything that goes as fast. It's like it's like

1064
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: the remember micro machines, Remember that's commercials with that guy

1065
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: he talked off fast and I was like he he

1066
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: didn't memorize that script. He just talks like that, like

1067
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: I expect you to go to his house and he's like,

1068
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: you know what's going on with report car? You only

1069
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: got a d you know, like I just expect everybody

1070
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: in his house to talk like that, because how to

1071
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: fuck can anyone perform like that? And I feel like

1072
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: that's mike kaplan to me is uh, it's interesting. I mean,

1073
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: obviously we've heard so many comedians explain their process, but

1074
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: is it just feels like you're going, uh like the

1075
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: Rapper Twister or whatever. I'm like, yeah, you can't have

1076
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: the same process, but now it's got to be similar

1077
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: or to the same, because you know, it is the art.

1078
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, like I mean when when I'm

1079
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: doing like live shows that aren't being recorded, where I'm

1080
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: you know, riffing and experimenting and you know, finding new things,

1081
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: like for the best kind of audience, where like I

1082
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: might have a plan, I might have some beats I

1083
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 4: want to hit or some topics I'm interested in early,

1084
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: like some joke ideas that are being fleshed out, but

1085
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: I make a lot of the discoveries on stage, and

1086
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: so the kind of thing like when you look at

1087
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: a you know, you listen to a full special or

1088
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: a full album, like that's gone through the process of

1089
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: what Rene calls the blooming phase, where you know, it's

1090
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: just like creating and creating and creating, and then eventually

1091
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: the pruning phase, were like, what is the actual final

1092
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: shape that this is going to come into? Like this

1093
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: one but not that one here over there, and when

1094
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 4: you see me live, you know, in between when you

1095
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: see me not recording, like there's the blooming aspect of it,

1096
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: which might not have like you know, I might not

1097
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: complete every parenthesis. Sometimes I listen back to a set

1098
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I started that idea and then

1099
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 4: I went over here, and then I got distracted by

1100
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 4: something else, and then like I discovered it was really cool.

1101
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 4: But every once in a while at the end of

1102
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: a show, somebody's like, what about the thing, And I'm like, oh, yeah,

1103
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: thank you.

1104
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: But it also is like the skill to be in

1105
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: the moment too, Like that's part of what as an

1106
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: audience brings you into it is knowing like this isn't

1107
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: the exact same thing that that he's going to do

1108
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: in tend like in another hour at another club, he

1109
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: someone dropped the glass and that he worked that into

1110
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: this and that that can't be a thing he had,

1111
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: like he unless he knows that person or some weird

1112
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: shit like that.

1113
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: And you know, art can be made, yeah, in any

1114
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: direction like this.

1115
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys remember have you watched

1116
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 4: much of Bo Burnham's Wow Man? So like early I

1117
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: think maybe this is from What you Know, which is

1118
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: one of my favorites, like one of his you know,

1119
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: more recent but not most recent specials. That's just so

1120
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: beautiful and there's like a part in it that he

1121
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: did on Conan. I think it's from that where like

1122
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: he knocks a bottle of water over seemingly accidentally, and

1123
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: then a track starts playing where it says like he

1124
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 4: he meant to knock the water over. Oh you know

1125
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: it was like art is a lie.

1126
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: The thing.

1127
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: It's so interesting that, like comedy and perception of comedy,

1128
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: stand up specifically has gone through so many iterations and

1129
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: incarnations where like, you know, years ago, people would you know,

1130
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: audience members would be like wow, like so how many

1131
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 4: how often do you hear a child or somebody say

1132
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, I thought they were just

1133
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: making it up somebody just goes on stage and just

1134
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 4: starts talking about their life and it's like a curated,

1135
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: honed plans like type set that they've planned over years

1136
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 4: and years and now now people are on you know,

1137
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: doing crowd work videos online literally almost always. I mean

1138
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 4: there's definitely some people who have like you know, pat jokes,

1139
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: like ready to go if like a relationship thing comes up.

1140
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: But I think the most beautiful experiences that happen with

1141
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: crowd work, which aren't all happening on social media, but

1142
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: when crowd work is good, when improvisation is really like

1143
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: to see Rory Scovell on stage improvising, like he can

1144
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 4: imprise an hour of comedy. Yeah, and there can be

1145
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: like so many it could all be wonderful, but there's

1146
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 4: certainly beautiful moments that if you're watching it, you might

1147
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: be like he had to have come up with that before,

1148
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 4: Like the exact opposite of how people used to think

1149
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: of it. They be like they're just coming up with it,

1150
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 4: Like no, this this guy is just coming up with

1151
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 4: it and that's his art, that's.

1152
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: His We just we just watched keV on stage and

1153
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Tony Baker. Yes, they do a show where the whole

1154
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: thing is they send a question there out to the audience,

1155
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: you answer it on your phone, and then they bring

1156
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: you up with your answers and stories and like they're

1157
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: riffing the whole time. Like you tell it's such a

1158
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: high wire act because you know, when you add regular

1159
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: people to any to any professional artistry, you know that

1160
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: ship could could easily go off the rails. But I

1161
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: mean they masterfully handled that for probably forty five minutes

1162
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: of the hour there and change their on stage with

1163
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: just other people, And there's something about that level of

1164
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: talent to where you're like, oh man, you guys are

1165
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: so good.

1166
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: You like you You're.

1167
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: You're like a magician who's letting and that's no, Like no,

1168
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: I have to make it up, like like I don't

1169
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: have a choice.

1170
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 3: This can't be. I could not have come up with

1171
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: this before this person got here, right.

1172
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love that. I think that's the thing

1173
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: that is interesting about this which reminds me of a

1174
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: thing I'm listening to this book, Like this is going

1175
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: to be a long walk, but I'm listening to this

1176
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 4: audio book by a woman named Tosha Silver called Change

1177
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 4: Me Prayers, and it's she was talking about in the book.

1178
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, a sort of spiritual self help comedy,

1179
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 4: a lot of things. And she's like, I was at

1180
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: a concert in like a the third row and there's

1181
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: a guy next to me and talking to him before

1182
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 4: and he's she learned that he paid only like seventy

1183
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 4: five dollars for tickets that should have cost eight hundred dollars,

1184
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 4: and she's like, how'd you do that?

1185
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: He's like, I came to the show. What I always do.

1186
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: I come to concerts early, like right before they're about

1187
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: to start. I asked at the ticket window do you

1188
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 4: have any great seats? Just a single great seat for

1189
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: under one hundred dollars, and like, if they're not going

1190
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: to sell it, because the show's about to start, like

1191
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: sometimes it works, and he's like the secret is I

1192
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 4: don't I don't have any investment in it. If they don't,

1193
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 4: then I just go have a good time by myself.

1194
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: Either I have a good time at the show and

1195
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: it's awesome the best seat, or it's like I saw

1196
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: a share in the third row this way, or I'm

1197
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: happy with myself if it doesn't work out. So the

1198
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: lesson is like you can be in some situations like

1199
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 4: that happy either way. And so I think with those

1200
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: guys on stage, when you're dealing with the potential chaos

1201
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: with the the the wild card of an audience member,

1202
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 4: you don't know what they're gonna say. But here's here's

1203
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 4: the spectrum. Either they get it and they're gonna give

1204
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 4: you what you want. Like if you ask them a question,

1205
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: they'll answer honestly. They're not gonna try to be funny.

1206
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 4: They're not gonna make it about themselves. They're gonna just

1207
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 4: give you something that you can build off of, that

1208
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: you can bounce off of, that you can you know,

1209
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: add to. Or on the other end of things, they

1210
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 4: try to be funny or they or they try to

1211
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: make things difficult, or they are too drunk or whatever

1212
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 4: it might be. And that's something that you can react

1213
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: to in a different way, like either way, like they

1214
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 4: wherever it is along the spector if somebody gives you

1215
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: a boring answer, huh, what a boring answer?

1216
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Last other audience member up here?

1217
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing about magicians is like you don't

1218
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: know what the plan is for a magician, and like

1219
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: production has a plan for if the person does anything,

1220
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: like you know they look for people that are going

1221
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 4: to be hopefully like easily hypnotizable if you're a hypnotist, yeah,

1222
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 4: but if it goes the other way, then you're just like,

1223
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: all right, thank you very much. And now like you

1224
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: didn't know, like was it in their left pocket, was

1225
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: it in the right pocket? Like was it even got

1226
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 4: a card? Trick? They might be thinking on the fly,

1227
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, this person is going to enjoy this trick.

1228
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 4: And just when you do comedy long enough, or any

1229
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 4: art form or any performance long enough, especially if if

1230
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: I'm improvisation, is magic. It's creating something from seeming nothing

1231
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 4: like the show. Some friends of mine do a show

1232
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 4: called Your Love Our Musical, and the way it works

1233
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 4: they interview a couple who's in love. At the beginning

1234
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: of the show, they get who volunteers from the audience strangers.

1235
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: A couple comes up and.

1236
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: They tell their love story for about fifteen minutes, and

1237
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: then they they're like, you know, same kind of thing, interacting,

1238
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: asking funny questions, making it fun but also getting the

1239
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 4: true story. And then for the next forty five minutes

1240
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 4: half hour to forty five minutes to an hour, they

1241
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: improvise a musical with a live band like music that's

1242
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: never been created before and wow rhyming lyrics that and

1243
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: it ends with like you know, the love story that

1244
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: we just heard with you know in like in typical

1245
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 4: like Broadway fashion and it's like this amazing. I can

1246
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: do like some I can improvise a song if you

1247
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 4: I can improvise a song if you want me to.

1248
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: That's not what I'm gonna do that with the instrumentation

1249
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: in the background.

1250
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: And like, you know, but when you work together.

1251
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: As a band, as musicians, as partners, like as those

1252
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 4: two were doing, like on stage like they are, you know,

1253
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: you trust each other, you know how each other work,

1254
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: and like you can especially when there's two of you.

1255
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: If there's two of you, then you only need to

1256
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: come up with something half the time. And that's that's

1257
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: how they do that trick if there's two of them.

1258
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike, what else do you do for like, like

1259
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: I know you do stand up, I know you read?

1260
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: Like what else do you do? Do you see movies?

1261
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: Do you like relaxation?

1262
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1263
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Like do you ever turn your brain off? You go

1264
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: to sport and events? Like what else do you do

1265
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: you cluk?

1266
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? Great question, I hear. I love when I get

1267
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: the do you ever turn your brain off?

1268
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: Question?

1269
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: Because I almost invariably get that question, Like when I'm

1270
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: on like a fun podcast like Wow Zip Zap zop,

1271
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 4: We're zinging and zooming all around, does it ever stop?

1272
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, when I'm not on a podcast that

1273
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: slows down a little bit, like all the time. But

1274
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 4: you know, I would say most nights when I'm not performing,

1275
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: like I don't have it.

1276
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: After this is the last thing I have scheduled for today.

1277
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: After this, like, Rene had some potential plans to go

1278
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 4: meet some friends she knows from the sign language community.

1279
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: She is a has been learning ASL for the past

1280
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: year and and.

1281
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: She's you know it too.

1282
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: She is teaching like she has been taking classes on

1283
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 4: a weekly basis since last September with like a brick

1284
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: here and there. But and she goes to like i'd

1285
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: say often multiple events a week while we're in town,

1286
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: and so like is like fluent there deaf people have

1287
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: said to her, have asked her if she is deaf,

1288
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: because she is like it is a she has a

1289
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,479
Speaker 4: natural kinesthetic intelligence. And it was like she's like thinks

1290
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 4: that she has previously she'd be like kind of I

1291
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 4: don't even think in words like so that this is

1292
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 4: actually a more natural kind of language, a more natural

1293
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: communication style for her, like related to the body and

1294
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: movement and dance and you know, and sort of visual

1295
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: spatial storytelling and so that which is not necessarily my

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: initial you know, way to interact with the world and create,

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: like I have a physical body also. But you know,

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Speaker 4: if you ask me, Mike, are you a physical comedian?

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01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: I would say, am I made of matter? Energy?

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01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: Like?

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01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: I mean, am I Jim carry? No?

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01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: Am I made of matter energy?

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 4: No?

1304
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm different, I'm ethereal, I'm not.

1305
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: Does physics Does physics affect my body?

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 6: Yes?

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01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 4: Do I gravitate towards you know, larger masses than myself? Sure,

1310
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: if I have to. But the point is, yeah, I

1311
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: think Renie might need to rest more than go out.

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: So if she stays in, we are going to will

1313
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: watch a movie, will watch a show like we just

1314
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: started watching Pluribys and it's incredible.

1315
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: I assume you're watching Dilligan.

1316
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to be watching this so on

1317
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: Apple TV, I've messed with Vince Gilligan Or did you

1318
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: watch Frankistan?

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: Not yet?

1320
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 4: No?

1321
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I love Frankistan.

1322
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she so Frankenstein.

1323
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: Reenie in twenty eighteen embarked upon a mission to read

1324
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 4: all of the great works of literature, as you know,

1325
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 4: you look at a top hundred literature of all time,

1326
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 4: like starting with Moby Dick and a karnaa any Karnina.

1327
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: That's a different one that that's so don't come out tomorrow.

1328
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, the classes quote unquote, she loves Frankenstein and

1329
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: she thinks it's like beautiful and meaningful. And I'm also

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01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 4: planning to read it before we.

1331
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: Watchatch the movie.

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01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily you know an exactly.

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 4: Well.

1334
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because.

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01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: When I watched it, you know, when they got done

1336
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: at the end, it's like written for a screen by

1337
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: Gilmo d'a toro, And I was like, man, I never

1338
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: thought about this, but like using the story we already

1339
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: know is like such the cool shortcut, cause.

1340
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: Like it's like stuff you can leave. I was like, guys,

1341
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: it's Frankenstein. You didn't come in here. You didn't know nothing,

1342
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: Like you knew some of this shitt like we can

1343
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: skip past.

1344
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a little he's made of part like listen,

1345
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: not we don't even get.

1346
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: Into the science and ship.

1347
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: We can leave one of the parts out.

1348
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: And the part that we can leave out is that

1349
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: he's made a Yeah, no, we got a piece all together,

1350
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: all the parts. But I mean my understanding is that,

1351
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: you know, as a child, we just think of Frankenstein.

1352
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: You know, before you know anything about Frankston, you're like, oh,

1353
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 4: big green monster obviously, right.

1354
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: The fact that he's not the fact that he's not Frankenstein,

1355
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: like the doctor Frankenstein, and he's Frankenstein's quote unquote monster.

1356
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: And then it becomes like a treatise on like what

1357
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: is a monster? Who's the real monster? You know, all

1358
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: the cliche tropes, But tropes are good because they work,

1359
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: Like that's why, that's why.

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01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: We like Trump Monster.

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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, the real monster is people who correct you as

1362
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: to which one the real monster is. Yeah, look, Frankenstein,

1363
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 4: the monster is actually the child in a way oftein,

1364
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 4: the doctor whose last name is Frankenstein. So they probably

1365
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 4: have the same last name. Oh please, doctor Frankenstein. That's

1366
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 4: my father's monster.

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, he's a Frankenstein of our time too, because like

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01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: he's sexy Frankenstein. Okay, this guy's Yeah, he's like six

1369
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: foot seven of of nothing but calm, gutters and and

1370
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: uh and just you know, just just muscles and stuff.

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01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: And the only thing is he looks a little too good,

1372
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: so that when like the one woman has compassion and

1373
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: stars kind of like being nice to him, You're like,

1374
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: she just want to fuck Frankenstan you know what I mean,

1375
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: Like like I feel like, yeah, Emo took it a

1376
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: little Yeah, he took it a little too far with

1377
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: how handsome the Frankenstein was because I'm like, I actually

1378
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: don't think this woman is being that compassionate. I just

1379
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: think this man is very attractive as opposed to you know,

1380
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: the one with the fish that where she fucked the fish.

1381
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: That one.

1382
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: I was like, that lady is special. She's different. She's

1383
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: got empathy galore, because nobody looks at the fish man

1384
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: is like I gotta get up in them gills, you know.

1385
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this this woman is like I just want

1386
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: to frank around and find out.

1387
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1388
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we will.

1389
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: We have some shows that we we are watching, Like

1390
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 4: we watched The Studio together.

1391
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: Which I love the Studio.

1392
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so at night that is our our general you know,

1393
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: stream something practice.

1394
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: Do you go to Do you go to theaters? Do

1395
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: you go out to movie theaters? Are you mostly at stream?

1396
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: A couple?

1397
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 4: Most mostly at home. I will say before the pandemic,

1398
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 4: I did have like a movie pass and or like

1399
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 4: an AMC like and so there was a time when

1400
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 4: I think, I like, for me to be healthy, it's

1401
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: better for me to not have one of those memberships

1402
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: because I get too obsessive. I'm like, look, I'm paying

1403
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 4: for it, so I in order to get the most

1404
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 4: out of it, the most movie for my dollar, I'm

1405
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: like just packing my week with movies, and I'm like,

1406
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: I got to live my life and do other things.

1407
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 2: That is the toughest part I'm part is one of

1408
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: these movie clubs, the fan I think it's Fandango, But

1409
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: Fandango's like the perfect kind of movie club because like

1410
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: you pay ten dollars, but then they give you a

1411
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: ten dollars like credit towards a movie every month. So

1412
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: it's not like they're telling you like you need to

1413
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: see all the movies.

1414
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: They're like, see a movie.

1415
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: You see a movie in thirty days. Yeah, broke even

1416
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: it's worth everything's cool. Movies cost too much anyway, And

1417
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm like cool. So, like there's months in the year

1418
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: where to me, the movies aren't hidden, they're they're not

1419
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: leave the house hitting, No, they're.

1420
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: Like I wait to streaming.

1421
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you get the October everything's scary or whatever.

1422
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm I'm okay with scary. But then like

1423
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: there's a couple of times a year where you know,

1424
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: there's like three or four movies in the summer I

1425
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: want to see in a month or whatever, like and

1426
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: that's but I never feel the pressure, like the movie

1427
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: pass pressure was real because I was It's.

1428
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 3: Like a constant equation in my head of like.

1429
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: Must see enough movies to make movie pass, regret decision

1430
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: to give me a card.

1431
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 4: And so when the pandemic struck, obviously watched everything online

1432
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: and then the first movie we went back out to

1433
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 4: and saw in a theater was everything everywhere all at once.

1434
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: I was like, that was a great movie theater movie.

1435
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 4: And then since then I've probably maybe gotten up close

1436
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 4: to double digits, but heart like truly in the past

1437
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 4: four years, have definitely not seen probably more than a

1438
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 4: dozen movies in theaters, and most of them have been

1439
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 4: because I've been a guest on a podcast that's going

1440
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: to discuss Black Panther two, or the movie that I

1441
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: just saw about a con man that was a real story,

1442
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 4: The Mastermind I just saw and that was enjoyable. Or

1443
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 4: I saw one of the latest Fast and Furious because

1444
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 4: I went on this my friends have a movie podcast,

1445
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I love the Fast I love the

1446
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 4: Fast and Furious movies. They know what they are and

1447
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 4: I love what.

1448
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: I gotta say that damnly Fast and Furious is the

1449
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 2: best because it went from like unintentionally terrible to actually

1450
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: like at some point really like this is just a

1451
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: good movie. Like I left, I remember leaving like Fast

1452
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 2: five that had the rock in or whatever.

1453
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I I just straight up and

1454
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: enjoyed it that one. But there's not a there's not

1455
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 3: a joke here.

1456
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 4: That's the one that brought me back. I watched the

1457
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 4: first one and I was like, I get it. Yeah,

1458
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: then I don't think I watched two through four. Yeah,

1459
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 4: And then I saw the preview for Fast five, which

1460
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: is the one where they there's a heist and they're

1461
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 4: driving with a literal the whole vault that.

1462
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: Saying yes.

1463
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: Yes.

1464
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: I was like the best trailer ever.

1465
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: I said, these motherfuckers right here.

1466
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 5: They know that I can't.

1467
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: They know they're making a movie that And I'm into

1468
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: that absolutely.

1469
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 4: Jason Statham makes incredible movies The Crack, the Transport, Like, yeah,

1470
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 4: they know what they're doing.

1471
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: Jason Statham at this point, Uh, I feel like his

1472
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: scripts are just like not written. I think they come

1473
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: up with the title and the title has a slight

1474
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: hook to it, yes, And because the last one I

1475
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: watched was a Workingman and all that was, but but

1476
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: everything everything before The working Man was was like insert

1477
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: job title here.

1478
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, he's a bee ki yeah.

1479
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: Uh, And so I was like working Man felts like

1480
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: the title I tell you the movie was when I

1481
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: can't remember the title, Like you're like, what's that?

1482
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: Jason state the movie saw old he was he was

1483
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: like he had a job. I don't remember.

1484
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember that one where.

1485
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 5: He's like the working Man, he's working, you know what

1486
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 5: I'm talking about.

1487
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: Like they barely had anything in The working Man that

1488
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 2: was that like normally, like with The bee Keeper, there's

1489
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: like twenty seven B related things. Yes, Like it's like

1490
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: to the point where you'll like it's almost a comedy

1491
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: because You're just like, why would he need to say

1492
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: it's time to make the honey when he's gonna kill

1493
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: twelve people. That's not that's not a thing that people

1494
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: that killed twelve people say normally it's not.

1495
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: But when a working man, it's like they were so lazy.

1496
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, he torches the guy,

1497
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: but he's holding a hammer.

1498
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's almer.

1499
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: That's what working guys, working man holds. God, name it something.

1500
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 4: You know what. That's a really great observation that so

1501
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 4: many of his movies are just like one one word.

1502
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: The transporter. That's Mike.

1503
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: What does he do?

1504
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: He transports things?

1505
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: Okay, and in between transportation, does he murder thirty people?

1506
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the hook of the movie.

1507
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 4: I mean, if they're getting in the way of him

1508
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 4: doing his transportation, if they just got out of the way,

1509
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: then he would just be an uber driver. But yes,

1510
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 4: he would be.

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01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: To answer, that's the next one.

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01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: His agent, His agent is just his agent is just

1513
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: sending him a list of job titles.

1514
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 3: They're not even that. He's just like, what do you

1515
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: want to do next?

1516
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 6: Man?

1517
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 5: We got we got a ride share?

1518
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 4: Uh?

1519
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: You know what that's about. I don't need explain it.

1520
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: We have Grocery, the Grocery Bagger. I'm I'm, I'm really,

1521
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm into this one. I'm not gonna tell you what

1522
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: to do, though.

1523
01:10:52,439 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 4: Mayson Statham in Task Rabbit one Tortoise doesn't have what

1524
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 4: he's in for.

1525
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 5: The Uber Drava.

1526
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 6: I was thinking about the Uber Drava be like the

1527
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 6: most deadliest food run ever.

1528
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: You know the other the other great thing about the

1529
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: other great thing about Jason state the movies. At this point,

1530
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: he's just playing Jason Stathum, so all the movies have

1531
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: just stopped trying to explain his accent because the movie

1532
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: is mostly happen in America, and it's like, I'm Mike Jones,

1533
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,919
Speaker 2: the detective for the Seattle Police Department.

1534
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: It's like, why do you have a British accent?

1535
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 5: With that accent?

1536
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: No one, I'm Jason Statham, and I promise that won't

1537
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: come up right.

1538
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 5: No one cares.

1539
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 4: That's so funny, Jason Stathum Indoor Dasher, I do want

1540
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 4: to answer your question, like we're having a lot of

1541
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 4: fun here, which is the purpose of this podcast, but

1542
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 4: I also like completing circuits and closing parentheses.

1543
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: Okay, there he is.

1544
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: What else I do?

1545
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 4: Yes, So let's say on a day like right now,

1546
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 4: right now, I do podcasts professionally on podcasts, like helping

1547
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: to promote the special.

1548
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing for like the past month.

1549
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,440
Speaker 4: Went to La did eleven days there, eleven shows, eleven podcasts,

1550
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 4: and a bunch of like hanging out with friends. But

1551
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 4: on a day, let's say I have a week at home,

1552
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 4: I'm not traveling to do I'll do shows at night.

1553
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 4: But let's say I wake up, you know, with just

1554
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 4: natural hopefully with no alarm. I'll read something peaceful while drinking,

1555
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 4: you know, a leader of water to get started.

1556
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: I'll meditate.

1557
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 4: I'll do some writing, like stream of Consciences, not for

1558
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 4: a purpose, just maybe gratitude journaling, keeping a journal of

1559
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 4: like what went on yesterday. And then you know, other

1560
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 4: than like going into my email, like you know, I

1561
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 4: message friends. I talk on the phone with my mom

1562
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 4: and Zach Sherwin who you know, most days, and then

1563
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 4: some days I have other like every Wednesday, I sort

1564
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 4: of have a steady call with my friend Gus who

1565
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 4: sometimes we study Buddhism together. Sometimes we just catch up

1566
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 4: while we're walking. But I I read. I'm really into

1567
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 4: advice columns. I'm into uh, I'm into comic books. I'll

1568
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 4: go the library is a half hour walk from my home,

1569
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 4: so I'll often.

1570
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: What comic books you read?

1571
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: Oh, I read tons lately.

1572
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm really into uh, Like I go by authors usually now,

1573
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 4: Like Tom King is.

1574
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 3: Really yeah, he did that Batman run a couple of

1575
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 3: years ago.

1576
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 4: It was his Batman rung is beautiful and so Batman.

1577
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: A Catwoman as like a relationship and that's like, oh man,

1578
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: well they won't they they won't, but they will try,

1579
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: but they there's.

1580
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 4: Like a version of it where you know you see

1581
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: future them as well, and some of the stories that

1582
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 4: he's telling, and like, I love I love Jason Aaron,

1583
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: who is doing Oh, I'm reading the reading the Absolute

1584
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: DC comics right now.

1585
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: I just started Absolute Batman like two days ago because

1586
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: everyone kept telling me about it, and at first the

1587
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: art was turning me off because I was like, when

1588
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 2: the fucking Hall of Fame calls and they look back

1589
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: on the Absolute Error, They're gonna really question the steroids

1590
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: because oh my god, I read it, but I look

1591
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 2: like some of these characters are definitely on pds. But

1592
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: I guess we're all just gonna pretend this is Mark

1593
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: McGuire Sammy Sosa and act like this is real.

1594
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: But okay, I'm in and I'm reading it now.

1595
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 4: Oh yes, Like I mean there's it's obviously like if

1596
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 4: some Batman is like they try to make it realistic. Yeah,

1597
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: but this this is fast and furious. Oh yeah. Literally

1598
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 4: one I think one episode ends. One issue ends with like, okay,

1599
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 4: so he just rode a motorcycle out a building or

1600
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 4: off a cliff a thousand feet up, And the next

1601
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 4: issue they're like, eh, he figured it out.

1602
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah that like they they introduced Alfred in the first

1603
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 2: like like they introduced the story through Alfred who's returning

1604
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: to town and he's some type of like almost like

1605
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 2: a mercenary or something.

1606
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 3: But like Alfred like gets t from a store. Like

1607
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 3: it really does feel like fast and furious wrotter. Like

1608
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm not joking.

1609
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: Like he gets to te he's like the only thing

1610
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: I love about this town is the tea. And then

1611
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: like someone steals his bike or some shit and he's.

1612
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: Like, I fucking hate this city. And I was like,

1613
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: what is.

1614
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 4: This h Starring Jason Statham as.

1615
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: Al Oh my god, yes, that would the badly would

1616
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:26,440
Speaker 3: be called the Butler. Yes, I c w, I'm here foolid.

1617
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 4: So that one, the Batman one is the one that

1618
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 4: I read third, because I was even more interested in

1619
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 4: Jason Aarron's absolute Superman is really awesome, like basically, you know,

1620
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 4: for those that don't know this, it's like a new dimension,

1621
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 4: a new universe, like where you've started the stories over

1622
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 4: in one of them, like not to reveal too much,

1623
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 4: but Batman both his parents don't die and he's not rich,

1624
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: and then okay, what else happens? And then Superman he

1625
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: doesn't come to Earth as a baby, he comes as

1626
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 4: a teenager, and then different things happen. Wonder Woman instead

1627
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 4: of being raised wonder Woman might be my favorite of him.

1628
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: I love the Superman, I love the wonder Woman. I

1629
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 4: really like the Batman. But the wonder Woman one, instead

1630
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 4: of being raised on an island with all the other Amazons,

1631
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: she's raised only by Circe in the underworld, in like

1632
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 4: the realm, in the Hellish realm, and so she becomes

1633
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: a very like she still has her heart, her spirit,

1634
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 4: she's still a hero, but she's like tougher and different,

1635
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 4: and there's one. I'll tell you one really funny moment

1636
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: in it. I think it's just beautiful art and incredible writing.

1637
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 4: She's talking to Steve Trevor, you know, the guy who

1638
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 4: in the original story is like, you know, her love

1639
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 4: interest and he washes up on the shores of the

1640
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 4: Amazon Island. And in this one when he meets her,

1641
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 4: like they're like looking eye to eye and he says, Wow,

1642
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 4: you're tall, and she's like, I'm the same height as you.

1643
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, yes, but where I come from,

1644
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 4: in my world, I'm very tall, and women where I'm

1645
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: from are not as tall. There's like no women who

1646
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: are as tall as I am, as tall as you are.

1647
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 4: And then she says something like is that important, And

1648
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 4: he's like.

1649
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's not, Like.

1650
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 4: Well, tell me more about the place that you come from.

1651
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 4: But things that are important beautiful like treat It's like

1652
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 4: a meditation on like don't comment on people's bodies.

1653
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: That's not important.

1654
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 4: Like what is more meaningful, Like let's let's you know,

1655
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 4: get that evil thing back.

1656
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: Where have you ever read I've been reading this graphic novel.

1657
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: Uh it's called Beneath the Trees where Nobody sees have

1658
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: you ever heard of that? Oh, it's like it's like

1659
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: Berenstein Bears meets Dexter.

1660
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 3: It's like about a serial killer bear. Yes, yeah, it's so.

1661
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 5: It was so good.

1662
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: It was I was I really didn't think i'd be

1663
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: into it, and I didn't know where the book was going.

1664
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: And it's it's graphic, but it's also adorable.

1665
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: And he just started he just started book two, which

1666
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: I've been reading in each as each commic.

1667
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: Know that that's so cool?

1668
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: Uh, so you know what it's doing. Like I forget

1669
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 4: if we've ever talked about this, but there's a guy

1670
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 4: named Peter McGraw who is a social scientist who wrote

1671
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: a book called The Humor Code where he was aiming

1672
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: to sort of analyze like what makes like laughter, what

1673
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 4: makes something funny?

1674
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 5: You know?

1675
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 4: And his theory is benign violation, like which means which

1676
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 4: goes back evolutionarily to like let's say you're a cave

1677
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 4: person and the.

1678
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Bushes rustle near you.

1679
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 4: You get scared that you're going to be attacked by

1680
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 4: a saber tooth tiger. So it's like, oh, no, a violation.

1681
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: But then your friend jumps out of the bushes and

1682
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 4: you're like Oh, thank goodness, and you laugh because you're

1683
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 4: relieved and you're not going to die because it's not

1684
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 4: a violation, it's benign. And so like in comedy, take

1685
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 4: like Sarah Silverman her original like when she was more

1686
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 4: of like a satirist, and like you could look at

1687
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 4: her stuff written down and you're like, if a person

1688
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 4: really believed this, they would be racist. They would be

1689
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 4: you know, this would be a bad way to this.

1690
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: This is a bad look.

1691
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 4: But when you know that she is doing it, you know,

1692
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 4: from a good hearted place to lampoon racism, for example,

1693
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 4: You're like you can at least be like, I understand

1694
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 4: that this is a different thing. It's not the violation

1695
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: that it appears to be. It's intended to be benign.

1696
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 4: And so I feel like that's what's going on in

1697
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 4: that graphic novel. Also, like if it was if it

1698
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 4: was like photo realistic, like human, yeah.

1699
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: It wouldn't work. If you like bisected a fucking person.

1700
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, this guy is a sick person. This is

1701
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: a sick guy, and.

1702
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: Like it's crazy because like his picture, the author's picture

1703
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 2: is on the back of the book and he's just

1704
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: like smiling or whatever. But since I've read the book

1705
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: now and I look at his picture. I'm like, this

1706
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: dude might be a serial killer. They should check him,

1707
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: check his back. This book too good, Like he got

1708
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: a serial killer. Look, but only if you read the book.

1709
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: If you just seen a picture that dude before reading

1710
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: the book, it's like, oh, you just seemed like an

1711
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: author of some type. But yeah, he's a real sick fuck.

1712
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: Another thing, I was thinking about a specific and I,

1713
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: you know, I don't do stand up, so I don't

1714
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: know how to necessarily make this funny. And I don't

1715
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: even know if it would be funny. But you know

1716
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: the term lib tard.

1717
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: I do know that.

1718
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 3: Okay, you know that, you know what is it?

1719
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 4: No go on? So I made it to twenty twenty

1720
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 4: five and I'm like, what, Yeah, I know about libs

1721
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 4: and I know about nevermind, Yeah, please continue?

1722
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 5: So liberal?

1723
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 2: And then the R word is I assume that entomology

1724
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: of it. I'm not intimate with entomology, but that's why

1725
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 2: doesn't seem very complicated.

1726
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, they really like saying that

1727
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: about people.

1728
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: I think it's their way of saying the R word

1729
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: without saying our word, which says something about them because

1730
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: they're they're kind of saying, like another R word is wrong.

1731
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: But if I put lib in front of it, and.

1732
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 3: I was like, why do they like that so much?

1733
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 3: Why do they keep saying it?

1734
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: And I was like, what if they're saying it because

1735
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: when people were saying the R word, they thought the

1736
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: R was for Republican, and so now they're getting some

1737
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: it back as opposed to them going now it's a

1738
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: vengeance to call us lib tards, like they're like, you've

1739
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: been wronging us since inception time, you started this whole thing,

1740
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: and we just need to explain to on that that

1741
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 2: that's never was the purpose of that word. You guys,

1742
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: if we weren't talking about Republicans, We're just that was

1743
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 2: not how that happened.

1744
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: That was a literal turn repub tards.

1745
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's not what it was. We would have

1746
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: said pub, we would have added it to there. And

1747
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: now it's a big misunderstanding. So we can all drop it,

1748
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: we can all stop saying it in all the forums

1749
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: now that it's all we understood.

1750
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: I love it.

1751
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: Let me just say that makes me think also, like

1752
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 4: I think that's I think that could be a great

1753
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's funny. It's great.

1754
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: You could be become a stand up teller.

1755
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: And I just it just feels like the kind of

1756
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: thing where a stand up person would have to figure

1757
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: out where the landmine in that joke is because I

1758
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: can feel there's a you could lose a room easily.

1759
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you guys watch Mark Marin's newest special?

1760
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 5: Yes?

1761
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 4: Like I think he does a great piece on group

1762
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 4: of people who like saying that word, and you know,

1763
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 4: does does a good job of you knows, as some

1764
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 4: might say, walking the line and like, you know, meeting them,

1765
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 4: like I think where they need to be met and

1766
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 4: not going hopefully you know, farther than you know, you

1767
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 4: can't please all the people. But I think something that

1768
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 4: you included and what you said like speaks to something larger,

1769
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 4: which is the you started it of it all. I

1770
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 4: think that so there's so much you started it, he

1771
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,440
Speaker 4: started it, They started it that people use to justify,

1772
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 4: you know, preemptively attacking or like you were gonna start

1773
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 4: it or that, and that's why and somebody needs to

1774
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,919
Speaker 4: you know, like I think Maya Angelou has said, like forgive,

1775
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: forgive everyone. Forgiveness is like the best gift that you

1776
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 4: can give to yourself because if you keep perpetuating it,

1777
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 4: Like sure, it might feel good in the moment to

1778
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 4: like get someone, but they say, you know, if you're

1779
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 4: if you turn the tables on someone, you're still at

1780
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 4: the table. But like in a Buddhist paradigm, we this

1781
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 4: world like what's happening now is happening because of what

1782
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 4: happened before, causes and conditions. What happened before is because

1783
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: of what happened that we are the result of what

1784
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 4: our parents generation did, and theirs and theirs and theirs

1785
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 4: and so far back to what they call beginning less time.

1786
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 4: So at a certain point you can't be like who

1787
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 4: started it. It's like, well, let's it's also that it's

1788
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 4: not great, let's finish it.

1789
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: It's also the mirror in the world, right, it's the

1790
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: it's the whole, Like at least I'm coming to understanding

1791
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 2: if there's certain things, if you squash it within yourself

1792
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 2: or you accept it within yourself, it's probably a better

1793
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: term than squash it. But if you like say no,

1794
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: this is a thing in my control and this is

1795
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: my view of it, you in some ways you kind

1796
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: of entered the matrix, you know, like, uh, I know.

1797
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: For me, a bit thing we talked about social media

1798
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: a lot here, and a big thing for me was

1799
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: learning how much of my perceptions of social media were

1800
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: leading there were like a self fulfilling prophecy. Right, So

1801
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 2: like if I say something and one hundred people understand it.

1802
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: A perfect example today, I said I made a joke.

1803
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: Steven A. Smith is this commentator is very annoying.

1804
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 2: To most people, and he for years and there's a

1805
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: lot of black people that don't like him because he's

1806
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: like repulsed. He's like conservative, he's like a weirdo, but

1807
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: he almost exclusively targets other black people whenever he's doing

1808
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: one of these like furious takedowns he does on this

1809
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: podcast and stuff.

1810
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 3: And so someone last week Carry Champion.

1811
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: Was like, Hey, you're always talking like this to all

1812
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: these other black people. There's this white lady, Michelle Beatles.

1813
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: She doesn't like you. She's been very loud about it

1814
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: for years. You never say anything to her, What the

1815
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: fuck is up with that? And of course he goes

1816
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: at Carry Champion first because you know, she's still a

1817
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: black lady saying something. And then he goes after this

1818
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: white lady for the first time, and everybody was like, oh,

1819
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: he finally said something back, and then this news dropped

1820
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: today that he's no longer going to be on the NBA.

1821
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 3: Monday Night show or whatever.

1822
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: Now, this is not a punishment, this was planned in

1823
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: this contract. Nothing bad is really happening to him. But

1824
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 2: I made the joke from the screenshot of like the

1825
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 2: news and was like, he finally says something to a

1826
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 2: white lady, and now look what happened, and all right,

1827
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 2: it's just a joke, Like I don't mean it. Yeah,

1828
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: most people respond it ha ha, whatever, right Cole. People

1829
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: were like, well, this was always planned in his contract

1830
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: that he would step down from this eventually, and I

1831
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: was like, this joke was always planning. When I found

1832
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: out in this contract was he was stepped down eventually.

1833
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: But there was a time where I really would have

1834
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,879
Speaker 2: let a couple people not getting a joke.

1835
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 3: Bothered me more bother me. More than one hundred people

1836
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 3: that had fun gave me joy.

1837
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: And that is a complete mind frame, like that's not them,

1838
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,959
Speaker 2: that's me, Like I control if I get upset because

1839
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: these two guys don't get it, I'm gonna explain it

1840
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: to them that they should get the joke and then

1841
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: it is funny. And it doesn't mean I do know

1842
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 2: that what happened with Tea right, But a lot of

1843
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: that was within my control. So like I do think

1844
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: a lot of that is that mirror, right, because what

1845
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 2: I go back to is the times when I felt

1846
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: that way, like I'm gonna correct them and they're gonna

1847
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: see that I'm right, and I'm gonna show them. I

1848
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 2: don't care if it takes thirty minutes. That was my turmoil.

1849
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: That wasn't theirs. Like their turmoil might be what made

1850
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: them be like I'm deciding to not be funny to

1851
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: this funny guy. But that's only something they can deal with,

1852
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: they can fix, and it's and like, I really do

1853
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: feel like my life changed when I started thinking like that,

1854
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: probably like four or five years ago.

1855
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 3: It's just like, Okay, yeah, you get it. That's a

1856
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 3: thing you get to have. I don't. That has nothing

1857
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 3: to do with me.

1858
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: You've always right around and I came back on.

1859
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 4: It's almost as if the Epiphany talk to a white

1860
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 4: person and all of a sudden, that's.

1861
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: What I'll say changes. That's what happened to Stephen A.

1862
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 5: Smith changed.

1863
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: I've been on threads.

1864
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'll put jokes and sometimes people will like,

1865
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 4: you know, I consider myself a recovering argument to holic.

1866
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 4: And I used to go back and forth with people

1867
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: indefinitely and it was not healthy. And now like, I'll

1868
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 4: give you. I'll give you one, and if you're not

1869
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 4: coming at me with you know, respect or good faith

1870
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 4: or kindness, then I'll stop.

1871
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: Uh.

1872
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: But I do understand like wanting someone to some of

1873
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 4: the people just don't get the joke, you know, sometimes

1874
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 4: people are I had one the other day. I was like,

1875
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 4: I put a thing about placebos, and my I was like,

1876
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 4: because here's the truth is. And before I get to

1877
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 4: what I wrote, the truth is that I've learn that

1878
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 4: the placebo effect is real, like and even if you

1879
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 4: know that it's a placebo, that makes you feel better

1880
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 4: than not taking anything. And so I just posted something like, hey,

1881
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 4: I've heard that they say that placebos actually do help

1882
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 4: you feel better, So why aren't we all taking massive

1883
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 4: amounts of placebos all of the time? And like, I

1884
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 4: know why that's not a real thing that would work,

1885
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 4: Like it's a joke.

1886
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. Most people took it that way.

1887
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: Some people wrote back and They're like, that's not how

1888
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 4: placebos work, in which case, I like found some links

1889
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 4: and I'm like, actually, it kind of does work that

1890
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 4: way a little. And they want to do more research

1891
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: to determine can we utilize the power that is under

1892
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 4: you know that's going on here, like and so. But

1893
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 4: one person wrote back to me and said something like

1894
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 4: a little scientific literacy would would have prevented you from

1895
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 4: posting this, And I wrote back, why would I, a

1896
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 4: comedian want to prevent myself from posting this a joke?

1897
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: And they wrote back, well, I don't know that you're

1898
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 1: a comedian.

1899
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 4: I get a lot of medical things in my feed

1900
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 4: and I looked at your profile and doesn't even say

1901
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 4: anything about that you're a comedian. And I'm like, is

1902
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 4: that true? And I look and it says I have

1903
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 4: a new special coming out. It doesn't say comedy special.

1904
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, thank you for the note. I'm gonna say

1905
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 4: it's a comedy special. And then I have a newsletter

1906
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 4: and it does say comedy is one.

1907
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: Of my interests. It was there.

1908
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 4: They didn't see it. It was at the bottom. But I

1909
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 4: was like that that's a reasonable point too, to know that,

1910
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 4: you know, especially at a comedy show, I expect people

1911
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 4: to know that I'm a comedian, but online truly, like

1912
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 4: some people are comedians, some people are not comedians, some

1913
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 4: people are you know.

1914
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: Also, the way that online is set up, the way

1915
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 2: the dopamine works, it's more like the absolute value of

1916
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: things as opposed to the positive or negati.

1917
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1918
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: So like sometimes.

1919
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 2: People it's more valuable for them to misunderstand or to

1920
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: assume bad faith on your part without you really interjecting.

1921
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: Like this guy's anti science. It's like, I don't know

1922
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: why you need that boogeyman, but today your monster mic

1923
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 2: until proven otherwise you're It's like here he got hating

1924
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 2: people that he wants people that get cancer to take

1925
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: placebos and die, like they.

1926
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 3: Go to a place shouldn't have to be.

1927
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think part of that is because the

1928
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 2: ecosystem has elevated that type of stuff, right, Like, like

1929
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 2: for every this is one of the hardest things about

1930
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 2: being funny. Now, for everything that I find humorous, there's

1931
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: a real person who's like, yeah, like if I go, hey,

1932
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: if you get cancer, just drink water and take a walk,

1933
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: ha ha, cause I think that's ridiculous.

1934
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 3: There's a guy RK Jr.

1935
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 2: Who's running health care for Americas, Like, if you get cancer,

1936
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 2: drink some water, take a walk. What the fuck, I'm

1937
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 2: in charge and I'm making the rules. So now my

1938
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: comedic thing is no longer comedic or or like you

1939
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 2: would have to know me or have my saying principles

1940
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 2: to know a ride's completely joking and hah. But it's

1941
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 2: not as funny in a world that that's a real thing. Now,

1942
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: So I think about that too, because that placebo thing

1943
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,839
Speaker 2: should in a world where there's everyone's on the same page,

1944
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 2: you know, where we all believe in science, we're like, oh,

1945
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 2: it's funny because because it's the word play and the

1946
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: idea of the concept and all this stuff. But in

1947
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,879
Speaker 2: a world where somebody's like actually guns talnand all causes autism,

1948
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 2: it's like, this motherfucker right here, better be a comedian.

1949
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Speaker 5: Right, Like, what's really happening to going on here?

1950
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. I mean, I truly, Oh,

1951
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 4: I mean, and there is no absolute objective truth. Like

1952
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 4: here's a thing my Buddhist friend Gus shared with me, like,

1953
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 4: is it true that the sun rises in the east?

1954
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: Yes?

1955
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 4: But wait, is it actually true? That the Sun doesn't

1956
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 4: move at all, and so it doesn't rise. It's actually

1957
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 4: the Earth that's going around it. That's what's true. Wait,

1958
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 4: but is it true that the Sun doesn't move at all? No,

1959
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 4: it's actually hurtling through the cosmos like our solar system,

1960
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 4: our galaxy is not still with respect to all of

1961
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 4: the other solar systems and galaxies. So it's not true.

1962
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 4: Is it true that the Sun isn't moving. But all

1963
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 4: of those things depending on the context. The sun rises

1964
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 4: in the east, or the Earth revelves around the Sun,

1965
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 4: or the Sun is hurtling through space, those are all

1966
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 4: true in different frameworks. You know what's false. The sun

1967
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 4: rises in the west. There are some things that nothing

1968
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 4: is objectively true. Here's the fun thing. At the end

1969
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 4: of the day, the sun rises in the east. No,

1970
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, the sunsets in the west.

1971
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 4: The point is nothing on the more or true? He says,

1972
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: nothing is more true then the sun rises in the east. Like,

1973
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 4: there's things that are equally true depending on your framework.

1974
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 4: And so when I do comedy, like I always want

1975
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 4: people to know what is true. Like there's some really

1976
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 4: beautiful comedy art, like what Nathan Fielder is doing like

1977
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,560
Speaker 4: with the rehearsal, I don't know what he believes.

1978
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Is true, and that's fine. I don't need to know.

1979
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 4: He's a magician, magician, I don't know everything that's going

1980
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 4: on with a magician internally, But for everyone else, like,

1981
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 4: if you're a truth teller, I want to know what's

1982
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: the true if you're if you're I want to know

1983
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 4: if you're Sarah Silverman, or if you're RFK Junior when

1984
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 4: you're saying something that like, am I to laugh at this?

1985
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Or is this?

1986
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 4: Like if Trump were an entertainer, it would be absolutely fine.

1987
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: There's people who do impressions of Trump and they're hilarious.

1988
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 3: JL Covid does an impression of Trump. Yeah, and it's

1989
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 3: so hilarious.

1990
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: But part of what's hilarious is that it's so accurate,

1991
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 2: Like he's done, He's picked up his phone and done

1992
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: an impression of Trump after hearing just like a story

1993
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: and we don't even know Trump's responds yet, and then

1994
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: Trump will respond exactly as j L did. And in

1995
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 2: the one hand, it makes what Jail did so funny

1996
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 2: and uncanny, but then in real life, it makes what

1997
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Trump did so scary.

1998
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 3: Because you're like, oh, you're in charge of things.

1999
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: And when jail made up a joke that you would

2000
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 2: say that it's no big deal that.

2001
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 3: This crown prince killed a journalist because things happen.

2002
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 4: That that.

2003
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: When he did that an hour ago, I was like,

2004
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: that's so Trump, that's so Trump. And then Trump doesn't.

2005
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 2: I was like, we're so cooked. We're so cooked.

2006
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 4: That's so Trump. That's that's what's great. Like it reminds

2007
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 4: me of the old uh when Stephen Colbert was on

2008
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 4: the Colbert Port and the White House Press Correspondence Center

2009
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 4: right next to George W. Bush during you know, the

2010
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 4: Iraq War, and he says like something O, this man

2011
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 4: is consistent, this man is steadfast. This man he says

2012
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 4: about George W. Bush, he believes the same thing on

2013
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,839
Speaker 4: Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happens

2014
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 4: on Tuesday. That's that's what's happening. Like, so there's you know,

2015
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 4: Paul F. Tompkins is one of my favorite comedians who

2016
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 4: went years ago when it wasn't even before, Like people

2017
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 4: were anti woke, when people were anti when they were

2018
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 4: on PC when they're politically incorrect, and people would ask

2019
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 4: I think Paul was asked in an interview at that point, like, Hey,

2020
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 4: what isn't it bad that you can't say whatever you

2021
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 4: want to say? And he's like, uh, if you want

2022
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 4: to say the same things you were saying twenty thirty

2023
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: forty years ago, then you're a dinosaur who hasn't advanced.

2024
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 4: And like you, I think most of us shouldn't want

2025
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 4: to be saying the exact same like the words or

2026
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 4: the concepts. Like we're as as human individuals and as

2027
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 4: a society, we're hopefully able to advance and progress and learn.

2028
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, you thought something.

2029
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 4: But then there's people like, you know, the ripple effect

2030
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 4: of like, you know, the the eminem line that I like,

2031
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 4: he's like, you know, like will cut Will Smith needs

2032
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 4: to cuss to sell records.

2033
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well don't need to cut record him you too.

2034
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's a funny line and that's a real

2035
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: and that's like so much of the comedy bro podcast

2036
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 4: verse now that when people are doing it, Like I

2037
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 4: love Doug stan Hope and I don't think that he

2038
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 4: is one of that can be. He is a thoughtful artist,

2039
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 4: you know, and but but there are people who like,

2040
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 4: look at you know, you can look at your Richard

2041
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 4: Pryor's or your Doug stan Hopes or Bill Hicks's or

2042
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 4: Anthony Jesselnick's or you know, anyone who's doing something that's

2043
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 4: like a high wire act that really takes a lot

2044
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 4: of skill and work and perfect like wording and your

2045
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 4: heart in the right place to not just be like, oh, well,

2046
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 4: fuck you too.

2047
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: Then, Like people can.

2048
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 4: Listen to eminem and be like but there's so many

2049
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 4: people that are like, oh, you're saying I can't say that,

2050
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 4: like say that.

2051
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Was the I think that was one of the saddest

2052
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 2: That was one of the saddest revelations in the last

2053
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 2: few years. And I feel like social media, slash blogs,

2054
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: slash stand up taken out of context kind of did

2055
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 2: it all collaborated to create this weird reality. But one

2056
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: of the saddest things was finding out which people were

2057
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 2: like this, like this is not a character or like

2058
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: the comedic framing, I really am a piece of shit

2059
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: like I where you're like, WHOA, I thought this whole time,

2060
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 2: Like the reason we're laughing with you is that you're

2061
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 2: letting us laugh at you because you're gonna go on

2062
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 2: stage and be like, I'm actually kind of wrong to

2063
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: do this right, and like when you pull that away,

2064
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: it just it takes something out of the art to

2065
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: where it's like, ohn't know. Now, you're just a guy

2066
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 2: who's on stage being a dick to everybody, and there's

2067
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: not a lot of fun to be had for us

2068
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: as an audience.

2069
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 4: It's like if a magician was like, all right, I'm

2070
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 4: gonna need a twenty dollars bill for this one, and

2071
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 4: then they just walk away with your money.

2072
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a trick. You just robbed me.

2073
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 4: I thought I was watching the character Monster Mic played.

2074
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: By the real human being Money Mike.

2075
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 4: Right. In reality, you know, inside of each of us

2076
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 4: there's a Money Mic and a Monster Mic, and you

2077
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 4: know one of them like which one is gonna win

2078
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 4: in the battle, And they're both passive fists, right, they're

2079
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 4: the passive aggressive fists. You know so much each other.

2080
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 4: And you gotta feed the Money Mic. Everyone feeds.

2081
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Whichever one you feed, whichever one you feed is gonna

2082
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 2: get stronger, guys, the Money or the Monster. That's how

2083
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: we find out, Mike, tell people where to find your

2084
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 2: special and all that than you and all that other

2085
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 2: good stuff.

2086
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 4: Uh so, yeah, Mike, Mike Kaplan spelled my weird way

2087
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 4: m y q k A p l A N. That's

2088
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 4: my social media. That's my website. That's my substack Mike

2089
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 4: Kaplan dot substack dot com. I send out a newsletter

2090
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 4: for free every week and more if you subscribe. I've

2091
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 4: got all my albums and uh on the streaming places.

2092
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 4: I've got my podcast that you have both been on

2093
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 4: and but mainly yeah, I perform live. You can go

2094
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 4: to my website.

2095
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 3: Is your music? Is your music album stuff still up to?

2096
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? The in my on my Spotify there is and

2097
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 4: I know Spotify is. I hope they stop advertising ice soon.

2098
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 4: And I don't know what to do about that, specifically Spotify.

2099
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 3: Other times I I didn't even know this. I'm out

2100
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 3: of the loose.

2101
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 4: That was the thing I heard in the past couple

2102
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:27,679
Speaker 4: of weeks.

2103
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Ice is in our city right now in Charlotte, North Carolina,

2104
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 2: and my ring and neighbor app is just nothing but

2105
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,560
Speaker 2: updates of like ice, ice.

2106
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 3: On this street, Ice on that street. There's using an emoji.

2107
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: It's crazy ice ice baby, Yeah, Ice ice losers.

2108
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 4: What I say, and I posted this today is like

2109
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 4: no ice is noise? You know?

2110
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:51,759
Speaker 5: Great?

2111
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 4: How you spell it. But if back to sorry for

2112
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 4: the commercial for anti I mean I'm not sorry for.

2113
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 2: Them, No, No, I prefer that because it's if I

2114
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: was gonna put a commercial in this and that's four Ice.

2115
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 3: I hope that there. It comes right after the anti

2116
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 3: Ice part that we just did.

2117
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, Yo, you know who's a real dickless loser,

2118
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 2: those masked Ice fucks. Yeah, and then the next thing

2119
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 2: here is like, join Ice if you want to be

2120
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: a great guy. I got a bunch of money for you.

2121
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: And then it comes back it's like, cause you'd be

2122
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 2: a real fucking asshole to do some shit like that.

2123
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, a real icehole. Yeah. So to answer your specific question,

2124
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 4: your generous question, the special that is called Reenie starting

2125
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 4: tomorrow November nineteenth, twenty twenty five, eight pm Eastern US

2126
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 4: time on my YouTube channel in collaboration with my producers

2127
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 4: at Blonde Medicine. So you can subscribe right now. You

2128
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 4: could go there and click notify me and they'll send

2129
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,480
Speaker 4: you a thing when it starts, and I'll be in

2130
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 4: the chat like this. It'll be exactly like this, except

2131
01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 4: without YouTube, and I won't be interacting as the human being.

2132
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 4: But I will be in the chat, chatting with people, engaging,

2133
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 4: So thanks for checking. I'm starting tomorrow at eight or

2134
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 4: any time thereafter until the universe ends or beyond. We're

2135
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 4: gonna it's spelled and beyond the universe it spelled our

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Speaker 4: I N I. For those are I n I Rene yea.

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Speaker 6: And for those are looking, do you have any I

2138
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 6: know you're talking about the recording of the special, but

2139
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 6: do you have any live shows coming up that our audience,

2140
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 6: if they're out and about, could could come and check

2141
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 6: you out live. I've never had the privilege of seeing

2142
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 6: you live. I am actually jealous. Roger have seen you

2143
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 6: live more than once. So eventually that's my goal, is

2144
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 6: to see you in person.

2145
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 3: One time, I didn't even know he was coming.

2146
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: I was just there and he showed up and I

2147
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, Mike Caviln's here.

2148
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

2149
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. And the one time he was in Charlotte, we

2150
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 5: were out of Charlotte.

2151
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well I got I gotta get back down there.

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Speaker 4: That is going to be my plan. And uh, did

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Speaker 4: I think you know, do you guys know Steve Hofstetter.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he is a comedian who's a good

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01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 4: friend of mine, and I believe now here, I hope

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Speaker 4: that this will not reveal I'm gonna reveal my ignorance,

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01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 4: and my ignorance is that I know that Charlotte is

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01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 4: a different town than Charleston, right yet I always forget

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Speaker 4: when somebody mentions one of them, which one, uh, the we.

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Speaker 2: All have that we all have that I I do

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01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 2: this with Jamie Press Presley and Margot Roby. It's not

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Speaker 2: our fault, like it just happens our brains wise, but.

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Speaker 4: I'm right, it is so Steve you still he grew

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Speaker 4: up in New York. He was living in Pittsburgh for

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Speaker 4: a while and opened up with sort of a comedy

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01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 4: collective there, but he recently, like passed earlier this year,

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Speaker 4: moved to Charlotte, And so he's passed down there and

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Speaker 4: does a lot of shows I think at Duckworth's maybe yeh,

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Speaker 4: duck down So, but he's a guy, I mean, so

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Speaker 4: I don't have anything scheduled with him right now, but

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01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 4: at some point I'm going to add ask him, uh

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01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna try to get back down there. But

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Speaker 4: I mean so certainly people check him out. I'm gonna

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01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 4: I should connect you guys because you got y'all would

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01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 4: uh fuck with each other? Uh in the way that's

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01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 4: good for that to go. I know that can mean

2178
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 4: two different things. You guys would really mess with each

2179
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Speaker 4: other and try to play some mine games. I will

2180
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 4: try to get down to Charlotte right now. I have

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Speaker 4: shows this weekend in New York City, where I live.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually doing a Don't Tell comedy taping on Friday,

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Speaker 4: which I'm excited about. What.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: I always if people say Don't Tell, what, what is

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Speaker 2: the hook of that show? Because the title sounds of productive.

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Speaker 4: Well, so the the hook of the show is like

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01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 4: it's sort of akin to you know how sometimes there's

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01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 4: restaurants where they're like, uh, you know, like the chef's

2190
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 4: choosing that you don't know, you don't order what you're ordering.

2191
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 4: You just start, We're gonna bring you something good, server

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01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 4: to you in the dark, you know what I mean.

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01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 4: Like there's some kind of gimmick to it. And so,

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01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 4: so what it is is that the audience, for some

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01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 4: don't tell us a few different legs or arms of

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01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 4: their their business. One of them the one that we're

2197
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 4: talking about I'm doing a taping, which is they will

2198
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 4: eventually be like on their website and you can, you know,

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Speaker 4: on their YouTube you can find a lot of great

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01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 4: new comedians that way, or some comedians that you know,

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Speaker 4: but the for their live shows that aren't taped basically

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01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 4: in New York City, in New Jersey, in you know,

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01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 4: probably in every state, like I know, I've done them

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01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 4: in Delaware, I've done them in California. People have done them,

2205
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 4: I know in Florida, in Boston, like maybe even some

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01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 4: in Europe. But their their model is they book good comedians,

2207
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 4: like usually it's like usually a showcase where they'll have

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01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 4: like a host and maybe three to five other comedians

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Speaker 4: for you know, an hour and a half show somewhere

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01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 4: certainly not more than two hours, usually between an hour

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01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 4: hour and a half, and the audience does not know

2212
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 4: the exact local of the show or the comedians that

2213
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 4: are going to be on the show until the day

2214
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 4: of the show, like you know, the neighborhood, like in

2215
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 4: New York, you might if you go on there's probably

2216
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 4: some in Charlotte or somewhere, you know, not too far

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01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 4: a drive. Yeah, some of them, they do, like one

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01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 4: a month. You know, sometimes like in I think Delaware,

2219
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 4: they do multiple shows a weekend because they don't have

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01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 4: any comedy clubs full time in Delaware, that two shows

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01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 4: every weekend. So I did two shows, like early in

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01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 4: January of this year, I went down and did two

2223
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 4: shows in a comic book store on Friday and two

2224
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 4: shows in the back of a restaurant on Saturday. And

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01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 4: so the other thing is it's like usually not a

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01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 4: standard performance space.

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01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 1: It could be like a gym.

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01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of them in gyms, like a

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01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 4: barbell gym or an archery range or and because like

2230
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 4: they're businesses that if they're not being used at night,

2231
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 4: they're like the space is available, so don't tell producers

2232
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 4: will come in and just set up lights, they'll set

2233
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 4: up the sound system, they'll set up chairs, they'll make

2234
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 4: it look cool, and then they'll just have like a

2235
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 4: really cool indeed, like you know, oh, it's like and

2236
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 4: it's the experience is that it's like it's a surprise,

2237
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 4: it's a novelty at first, but then because most of

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01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 4: their shows are packed and good, you're like, oh, that

2239
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 4: was great. Kind of the same way that you go

2240
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Speaker 4: to the comedy cellar. Whether or not you know who's

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01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 4: performing that night, you trust that the comedy seller is

2242
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 4: going to have a good lineup. You can lose there

2243
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 4: at the comedy seller. But sometimes even the biggest names

2244
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 4: won't put their name on the lineup. They'll put like

2245
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 4: a pseudonym and you're like, well, I don't know who

2246
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 4: Joe Jablonski is, but maybe it's Jim Norton, you know.

2247
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 4: And so same deal. You go to a don't Tell

2248
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 4: show because you're like, oh, I've heard these are good.

2249
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 4: You experience that it's good, and then you tell your

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Speaker 4: friends about it, and I mean, it's.

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01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 3: Cool, but yeah, because then you tell, but you are Yeah.

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01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, don't tell, but really, like it's the

2253
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 4: absolute value of don't tell, which is tell.

2254
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 3: Lutely.

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Speaker 1: You don't tell, but you're gonna tell.

2256
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 4: And so they've built and then yeah, they've had over

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01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 4: the past many years. Like really some people's like my

2258
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 4: friend Liz Glazer did a taping I think last year

2259
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 4: and it came out I think earlier this year, and like,

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01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,560
Speaker 4: I know, I don't remember exactly how many views it

2261
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 4: got on YouTube, but you know, the first couple of days,

2262
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 4: like some tens of that, like maybe forty thousand views,

2263
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 4: but then they chop it up into you know, reels

2264
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 4: and tiktoks and stuff, and some of her clips had

2265
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,640
Speaker 4: like millions of yous so's. They've got a good comedy

2266
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 4: mechanism going. So they're like, I'm I'm happy to work

2267
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 4: with them and be in business with them, and you know,

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01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 4: advertised definitely support, don't tell, don't support ice those are

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01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 4: I agree?

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Speaker 3: And what was yeah, go back to your to your shows.

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01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, but that question has plagued me for years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so that's where I'll be in like this weekend,

2273
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 4: and then i have shows mostly around New York City

2274
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 4: into January, no sorry, into December. I've got like maybe

2275
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 4: one in New Jersey. And then mid December, I've got

2276
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 4: some shows in the Ohio area, so western Pennsylvania, then

2277
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 4: several in Ohio.

2278
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 1: I'll be doing New Year's in New Jersey.

2279
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 4: Then you know, in the coming months going forward, I've

2280
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 4: got some shows out in the Chicago area. I've got

2281
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 4: some shows in DC, and you know, if you look

2282
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 4: at my website or Mike Kaplan or a punch up

2283
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 4: dot live slash Mike Kaplan I put my tour dates there,

2284
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 4: and if I'm not in a city near you, ask

2285
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 4: the venue that has comedy that.

2286
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 1: You love nearest you to bring me.

2287
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 4: And hopefully if enough people do that, they'll be like, well,

2288
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 4: we're so I'll work on it from my end.

2289
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 1: But it's certainly you know the power of the people.

2290
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 3: And I assume you're doing.

2291
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 2: All those shows outside of New York because Mom, Donnie's

2292
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 2: gonna be the mayor and you're scared because he's gonna

2293
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 2: bring the socialists. The Socialist nine to eleven is coming to.

2294
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 4: Surely, Rod. The truth is that when I was I

2295
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 4: was in California when uh the election happened.

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01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: I voted early. We went to California, I did a

2297
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: bunch of.

2298
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Speaker 4: Shows, uh, and so then he was voted in on

2299
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 4: like I think November fourth or so, and I flew

2300
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 4: back on the seventh, and I was like, because Mom

2301
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 4: Donnie won, I'm returning to New York.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to New York.

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01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm back, all right, Right, that's hilarious.

2304
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: That's a joke.

2305
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 4: That's true.

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01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: That's the magic trick, folks, all right, Chiad, that's my man, monster, Mike,

2307
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 2: the money money Monster, Mike he's a monster on the mic.

2308
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 3: Make sure you guys go see him in.

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01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 2: Person, and we'll be back, uh for our premium listeners.

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01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow because we're doing our sports show

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01:49:58,200 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a good one. There's a lot

2312
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 2: of sports happening everybody, and lots of stories that are

2313
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 2: sports adjacent, which is where we come in.

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01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 3: We don't really talk that much about the.

2315
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 5: Sports, but actually got the cell going on.

2316
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 3: And we have a cell going on right now.

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01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 2: Our annual African American Friday Cell has started early, starts

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01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 2: earlier and earlier every year. Unlike the stereotypes, our African

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Speaker 2: American Cell is never late.

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01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 3: It's always running on early people.

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Speaker 2: Time, and you can get it on Patreon now and

2322
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 2: you can also get on our website and if you

2323
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 2: ever have issues, email us the blackouts as at Gmail.

2324
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: I'll address it. I'll email you, I'll talk to you,

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01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 2: I'll walk you through it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's it for now, So until next time.

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Speaker 3: I love you you nah, I love you