WEBVTT - He's Your Man?!?!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Can't Fully Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and The Black Effect. And just like that, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with yet another podcast episode with your girl Jess Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Carefully Reckless, where I Fix your mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to give a special shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Breakfast Club and be E T and Charlemagne and

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Effect in.

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<v Speaker 2>Our heart, all four of those entities.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the reason, well not the whole reason, but

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<v Speaker 1>a good part of the reason why I do keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to do this shit every Wednesday, y'all. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to let y'all know I love y'all, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I really really feel good, really really feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my first day at Breakfast Club, my first day

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekend Breakfast Club. So my episode drops on

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<v Speaker 1>a Wednesday, but this is a Monday, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let y'all know the type of

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<v Speaker 1>work day that I'm dealing with. I flew from Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina after a show last night. Right show was

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<v Speaker 1>at six pm. We got off stage and finished the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was wrapped up around like eight thirty. Had to

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<v Speaker 1>catch a nine fifty eight flight. I made the flight,

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<v Speaker 1>got here, landed here in New York around like right

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<v Speaker 1>before twelve o'clock. We bought it at nine fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>so we took off around like ten something, landed twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to my hotel till one got right back

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<v Speaker 1>up at four o'clock. That my makeup was here at

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<v Speaker 1>the station at five point thirty to go on air

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<v Speaker 1>at six am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from six to ten we do breakfast club,

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<v Speaker 1>we do whatever interviews that we have, and then now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in here recording, So I am literally running off

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<v Speaker 1>of three hours of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love y'all so much. I love what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired, but I still got energy. You understand what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So the motivation can also be adrenaline, Like, yeah, I'm tired, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I may not even sound like it, and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I really am. I'm not sleepy, I'm not drained though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just tired. That's all so kay to say that

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<v Speaker 1>you're tired, I'm not tired of y'all. I'm not tired

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<v Speaker 1>of what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually very damn grateful, and I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep on going and doing what I do. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>letting y'all know I do this shit for y'all. You

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<v Speaker 1>found me, So we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Jump right in. Nobody sent in voice notes for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna read this long ass run on sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call it out. It is what it is, girl, Hi, Jess,

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<v Speaker 1>I really need you to help with my mess. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish to remain anonymous because I could catch a case

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<v Speaker 1>about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn oh shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'll start off with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a twenty two year old female who's had really

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<v Speaker 1>bad taste in men, and I find myself to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a hopeless romantic. I mean, will

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<v Speaker 1>you twenty two shit, I'm always falling in love with

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>In February, I started a job working in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>at the jail. Before starting this job, my mother and

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<v Speaker 1>family all said, do not fall for anyone in there,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning in the jail. I even had training informing me

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<v Speaker 1>that a personal relationship with an inmate could result in

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<v Speaker 1>a rape charge for me. Wow, whether it was consensual

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<v Speaker 1>or not, y'all listen to that, don't y'all become CEOs

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<v Speaker 1>and cafeteria ladies and these damn jails, and then y'all

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<v Speaker 1>get caught fucking these inmates. That's a charge on y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was consensual or not. Y'all can go down

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<v Speaker 1>for raping these motherfuckers. Okay, even if y'all didn't rape

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<v Speaker 1>these motherfuckers. All right, back to the story. So I

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<v Speaker 1>start working, things are going fine. I immediately knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have to deal with some thirsties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you must be a nice, little cute little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Nice wholesome young lady, But

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<v Speaker 1>nothing can truly prepare you for working with men who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had pussy in years. I had men saying they

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<v Speaker 1>drink my bath water, sniffing me when they walk past.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot, I must admit. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>one that was different. They called him Bori for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't Latino, that's short.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Boriqua. Okay, okay, I said that right.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my little Spanish down pack Boriqua, And at

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<v Speaker 1>first I wasn't even looking at him that way at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It just started with small conversation asking where I'm from.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about family, him helping me carry heavy things so

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have to struggle. The next thing, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>every day we're talking more and more about life and God.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>The disrespect from the other men eventually stopped as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He would tell me how beautiful I was and how

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<v Speaker 1>he just wanted to take care of me and do

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<v Speaker 1>everything for me. Eventually my wall broke down and I

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<v Speaker 1>started to develop feelings for the man who I was

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<v Speaker 1>spending so much time around. So we started getting frisky.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on and the damn jail girl, So we started

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<v Speaker 1>getting risky, she said, not frisky. I slipped him my number,

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<v Speaker 1>He would slip me letters and pictures. We would sneak

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<v Speaker 1>off into the freezer together. No, we didn't have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>We started talking about a life together. When he got out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was even looking for apartners and shit. And before

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<v Speaker 1>you judge me, I'm going through a lot in life

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Sometimes the unhealed part of me looks for

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<v Speaker 1>something that can save me, or someone to come save me.

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<v Speaker 1>After a while, words spread that we were messing around.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, girl, you know it's like the hood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the damn jail, old shit, the walls talk and the

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<v Speaker 1>inmates do too, and sure enough, this information gets back

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<v Speaker 1>to my manager. I'm not gonna say her name, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this. She is one of the realest

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<v Speaker 1>shorties I ever met. She sits me down and tells

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<v Speaker 1>me she knows about me and body. I'm gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>say buddy, me and Boddy that she really likes me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why she was telling me. She thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would be best if I quit. Damn that if the

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<v Speaker 1>information got back to her, then word was spread beyond

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<v Speaker 1>her into the CEOs and then they'd launch an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd get arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was saving me.

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<v Speaker 1>To avoid all of the mess, I just needed to quit,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what I did. I came in one

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<v Speaker 1>last day to tell Boddy to make sure he saves

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<v Speaker 1>my number in a safe space, and I didn't go back.

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<v Speaker 1>This was in the end of March, so having quit,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured there was nothing more for me to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>To look for him, So that's what I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked for him on Facebook and found a couple pages.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked through his friendless to see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>find someone to pass a message to him. Also, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't call you Damn. I found this friend that he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be very close with. I messaged the friend

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they still keep in contact, and this

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<v Speaker 1>man proceeds to tell me that him and buddy are together.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his man.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he asked me who I was and what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted with his boyfriend. Then I looked through his pictures

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<v Speaker 1>and find a picture with them too hugged up with

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<v Speaker 1>engagement rings.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Needless to say, my heart was broke. I immediately got

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<v Speaker 1>sick to my stomach. I didn't know how to process

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<v Speaker 1>that information at all. So I just blocked the friend

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<v Speaker 1>and the situation from my mind and just kept moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward because now I got to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>pay my bills since I was stupid and fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>a state job with a pension and all that girl

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<v Speaker 1>dumba's hell. Despite that, though, I still think of him

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<v Speaker 1>all the time time and the way he made me feel,

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<v Speaker 1>how soft and gentle he was with me. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>was from him being gay, I don't fucking know, or

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<v Speaker 1>just him knowing how to treat another human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. That don't have nothing to do with him being gay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But now he still calls me h and I answer

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time because I want to hear his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh today I told him I knew about him and

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<v Speaker 1>his boyfriend. Of course, he couldn't explain much due to

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<v Speaker 1>where he is. But he claims that's his old life

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants a new one, and how he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose me, how he'll answer whatever questions I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give him a chance when he gets out. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>hell no, you want me to wait for you to

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<v Speaker 1>get out. I don't know when the hell that is.

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to wait for you to get out

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me that you ain't gay? No more, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can answer all my questions about you being gay,

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<v Speaker 1>some about this is your old life. Well, that nigga

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say that when I hit him up to ask

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<v Speaker 1>him about you. Y'all are fucking engaged, And what you

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<v Speaker 1>did was you got your ass locked up, and that

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<v Speaker 1>nigga's for you to come to fuck home, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>A part of me wants that so bad, just to

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<v Speaker 1>say fuck it and love him openly for who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's that other part of me that thinks, what

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets tired and wants to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>dick Exactly? I'm not sure why I haven't completely checked

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<v Speaker 1>out after finding out he was gay. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know how you would fix this mess. Am I delusional

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<v Speaker 1>to want love so bad that I tried to love

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<v Speaker 1>a gay man?

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<v Speaker 2>Get back to me if you can. This shit got

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<v Speaker 2>me fucked up?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, hold up, I know the shit getting good.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love me, you'll listen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, bookie, But I do understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how you can be fucked up by a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was just a whole lot. All right, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the beginning. Listen, you're twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old. You're twenty two. You had a great job

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<v Speaker 1>you did, I mean, I don't you know, considerably speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you worked in a fucking jail, but you

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<v Speaker 1>did have a pension. You mentioned, you mentioned that you

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<v Speaker 1>loved the state job. I mean, obviously you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything bad to say about it other than you had

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it due to a nigga. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say a nigga. Aint gonna say a gay nigga because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know if he's gay. He may be,

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<v Speaker 1>by he obviously is not gay. You know, he's obviously bisexual,

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<v Speaker 1>or he could be poly. I mean, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when we get into all the sexual departments, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also not gonna say what he made you feel

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<v Speaker 1>has no regard. It's fake, it's bullshit, it's asinine to

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way. I'm not going to say that because

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true. I do believe that he developed feelings

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I believe that he was and probably still

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<v Speaker 1>is connected to that ex man, you know, his ex

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<v Speaker 1>fiance or could still be his current fiance, And he

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<v Speaker 1>still may be even battling with his sexuality.

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<v Speaker 2>He may not know who the fuck he is. You

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<v Speaker 2>understand what I'm saying. He may not. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to call him gay.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't just say, oh, you're gay because you found

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<v Speaker 1>out that he fucked with men. You know that he

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<v Speaker 1>had a man that he was engaged to. He could

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<v Speaker 1>still be very well bisexual. You know, we just don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to put that on him altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't think you're crazy for feeling the way

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<v Speaker 1>you do. We can't control our feelings. We can't control

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<v Speaker 1>who we love. If you love this man. I do

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. I do think that you are young. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say you don't know what love is,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have a whole lot more life to live

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot more to experience before you lock down

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<v Speaker 1>with the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know when he's coming home, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>expressed to you that he may be gay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wants you to wait until he gets out

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<v Speaker 1>for a full explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only part about it that is bullshit. And

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest part about it is that you actually had

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<v Speaker 1>to quit your job. You didn't quit because you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>You quit because you had to, and you avoid it

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<v Speaker 1>and arrest. Okay, I think your manager is a real

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<v Speaker 1>one for coming, you know, coming to you before shit

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<v Speaker 1>actually hit the fucking fan and telling you to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was meaningful.

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<v Speaker 1>That was somebody who understands and probably somebody who saw

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<v Speaker 1>a situation like that before, you know, a young girl

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<v Speaker 1>caught in a situation like that. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>that all men in jail are the same. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that, but I am gonna say it's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to believe a dream that a man in

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<v Speaker 1>jail will sell you. You understand what I'm saying. Not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that this is your situation now, I'm talking in general.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very easy to believe that because all they have

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<v Speaker 1>to live by is dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them don't even know when they're coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them ain't even coming home, so all they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do is hold on to dreams and memories

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<v Speaker 1>and shit, you know, And sometimes their dreams become nightmares

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<v Speaker 1>and shit because they don't know when they're coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to live in a fucking cage and look

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<v Speaker 1>at four walls for the rest of their fucking lives

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<v Speaker 1>or for a very long period of time, and be

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<v Speaker 1>away from their friends and families. And like you said, pussy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It is hard that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with the mental abuse, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>verbal abuse from all the other inmates hitting on you,

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<v Speaker 1>telling you they drink your bad for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it had to make you feel uncomfortable. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you said you.

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<v Speaker 1>Met buddy buddy Qua and you always sneaking to the

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<v Speaker 1>free so much tryin hand sex.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck y'all doing in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 1>Then not y'all freezing, y'all damn asses off, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just talking and trembling.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck y'all doing shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't no way you could add sexy they I know

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<v Speaker 1>this dick can't get hard in the cold, A fucking

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<v Speaker 1>freezer next to the chicken. Chiall listen, all jokes aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I said, you're very young. Okay, make

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<v Speaker 1>this a lesson. Learn you said he calls you, you

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<v Speaker 1>still answer because you just want to hear his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't run from it. I'm not saying run from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep all your options open, honey. I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you. I can't tell you to be

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<v Speaker 1>with a gay man. I can't tell you to not

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<v Speaker 1>be with a bisexual man. I can't tell you to

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<v Speaker 1>not fuck with him. And listen, it's all about your preference.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still young, you don't know who the fuck you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably so even if you're considering dealing with a bisexual man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not me judging you. That's your fucking preference. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you prefer, you need to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do. You know, he said that's his

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<v Speaker 1>old life. Do you believe him. Can you ungay have

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<v Speaker 1>to being gay for so long? That's a real fucking question.

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<v Speaker 2>Women do it? Why can't men do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the flip side is, once your butthole been entered,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you like go back to being a.

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<v Speaker 2>Vergin of the butt? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And are you gay fever once you get your butt

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<v Speaker 1>plugged up?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. It's just so many there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many questions, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have Andrew Carlweile bring him up every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then he said that he's not gay anymore. He

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<v Speaker 1>very well may not be, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know what that guy does. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>still has you know, is this feminine ways or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>But that could still just be the last little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he probably got to get the last little

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<v Speaker 1>bit out by twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>He could sound like me, you know, he could sound

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, James Earl Jones. We don't know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. You probably don't. He probably don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's getting the last little bit of gay out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So we just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And while it sounds like I'm playing. I'm being dead

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<v Speaker 2>ass serious.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So I want you to, you know, reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to body or well you can't reach out at

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<v Speaker 1>the jail, you know, but don't reach out to no

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<v Speaker 1>more his friends because then I feel like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find out some more shit.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I think you need to let him know.

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<v Speaker 2>Write I'm a nice little letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him know that you're conflicted on this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be as open as you can, and tell him that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to wait until he gets home for

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<v Speaker 1>him to explain everything. You met him in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>he still he owed you an explanation. Nigga, I lost

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<v Speaker 1>my motherfucking job because I picked you, over risking my

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<v Speaker 1>freedom I did in hindsight, I ultimately picked you. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows you're young. I'm sure you didn't lie about your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking age. He knows you're young. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to take advantage of you, but you are

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<v Speaker 1>very impressionable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It took him a minute to knock down that wall,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did. A nigga in jail knocked down the wall. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have anybody on the outside your age. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years old or whatever, without a record, without

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend or you know, a fiance and without a

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<v Speaker 1>past like that, and you chose Buddy again.

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<v Speaker 2>It may sound like I'm judging you. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes you gotta hear shit repeated back to you

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<v Speaker 1>so you can hear how unorthodox it sounds. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying situation is crazy. I'm not saying it's disgusting. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying any of that. I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>get the wrong idea. I said unorthodox. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on, a lot going on. You're too young for that.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be working on your next fucking job, not

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<v Speaker 1>working on buddy. And when a fuck he come home?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is he gonna give you? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>backing up his promises with concrete details? Does he have

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking plan? What is he doing in there now?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you work in a jail or did you

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<v Speaker 1>work in a prison that's different? Is he taking classes

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<v Speaker 1>to better himself?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is he doing? What are his dreams?

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<v Speaker 1>Did y'all get to know each other in the damn

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<v Speaker 1>Did he tell you that in that freezer? What did

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<v Speaker 1>he tell you he was cold freezing your ass? Off.

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<v Speaker 2>He supposed to be on the damn floor with.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the inmates and you playing in a

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<v Speaker 1>freezer with buddy, girl. I think you need to go

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<v Speaker 1>try to get your damn job back, or go to

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<v Speaker 1>another damn jail and don't fall in love with no

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<v Speaker 1>more fucking inmates.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. I mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're not all the same, but that ain't where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get your man from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good men and that two.

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<v Speaker 1>But let them come home, figure themselves out and find

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<v Speaker 1>their women, or let them come home to people that's already.

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<v Speaker 2>Waiting for them. I mean that. I mean that, even in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your case, let them come home to who's waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>them obviously, Okay, because dreams are still sold in jail. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>check back in with me because I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>where you go from here. I would love for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go get another job. You seem like you had

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<v Speaker 1>your head on damn straight. But you know, we don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. I know you need to get it together.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll be right back moving on. Hey, Jass, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a boyfriend that I've been with for four years,

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<v Speaker 1>but we both want different things. I want us to

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<v Speaker 1>have our own place, but he wants to keep living

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<v Speaker 1>with his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's twenty one and I'm twenty. Damn girl, shit girl,

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<v Speaker 2>probably ain't ready for all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, what the hell are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, your little hot ass, calm down. You

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<v Speaker 1>ain't even twenty one yet. He's twenty one and you're twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand you want to move. Okay, you want to move

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<v Speaker 1>with your boyfriend. Y'all been together for four years. Yeah so,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all were together since sixteen seventeen. I understand, But you

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<v Speaker 1>really truly don't know a person until you live with them.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, honestly, I'm not trying to I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to control your life. But you got one more year

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<v Speaker 1>until you make all these big decisions, and you got

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<v Speaker 1>to live with them. You understand what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's making a sensible decision. You act like he

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, forty one living with his dad. I know

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<v Speaker 1>some people living with their parents that are older than

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<v Speaker 1>I am, which I'm still not saying anything is wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with I'm just saying it depends on your level of independence.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to be independent. It's some people parents

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<v Speaker 1>don't want them to leave. Some people don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you have relationships and jobs and kids and

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<v Speaker 1>all that type of shit, you want your own. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you just are tired of living under someone else's roof,

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<v Speaker 1>you want your own. But then you have people that

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<v Speaker 1>stay at home as long as they can. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you something, it's hard to shit out here

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<v Speaker 1>these days. Back in the day when I first moved out,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it was hard, but it wasn't nowhere near as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as it is now. We're in a recession right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And while it doesn't affect a lot of people, and

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<v Speaker 1>why it doesn't look like why it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>it affects a lot of people, Oh it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's affecting a lot of fucking people. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>this is a sidetrack, real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the chick for later other day, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>order fool for me, my sister and my videographer. That

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<v Speaker 1>shit came up to like thirty eight dollars and we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even get four meals.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the only one who got a four meal.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister got some nuggets, Megan cheese, and he got

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<v Speaker 1>a salad and a milkshake or some shit. Thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>dollars forty dollars for three people to eat, and they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't even full complete meals. It's a fucking struggle out here.

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<v Speaker 1>That shit may sound like pennies to certain people. To

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<v Speaker 1>other people, you ain't got it. It's hard feeding your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking family. That's why so much crime, That's why niggas

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<v Speaker 1>is hungry, robbing, stealing, fucking killing people and shit people

0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>are trying to make ways out of no way, you

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<v Speaker 1>understand what I'm saying. And then we have yellow ass

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<v Speaker 1>that want to move out quick fast, in a hurry. Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be right back. And I don't even like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't like saying this. I don't like seeming

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm talking down But don't jump out there too

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fast, Okay, don't at least wait until you're twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then let him take his time. If y'all been

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<v Speaker 1>together for four years already, where he going? Do you

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>see y'all going downhill? Is this a deal breaker for you?

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<v Speaker 1>If y'all don't move together, you're gonna leave him?

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 2>What is this?

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 1>It's all right, compromise and a relationship. Compromise, give him

0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like a wager, you know, leverage. Let's meet in the middle, compromise.

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<v Speaker 1>Say all right, Ben, you know how bad I want

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<v Speaker 1>to move together. Since we can't do that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's revisit this in another year, six months to a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see where you'll be by then. Or let's

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<v Speaker 1>wait until my twenty first birthday and let's see where

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be by then and we'll revisit it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just up and leave call it quits just because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not trying to move together right now. He also

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<v Speaker 1>could be scared. He could be nervous, His parents could

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<v Speaker 1>be in his head. You ain't about to move with

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<v Speaker 1>that girl. You know what I'm saying. You don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's a communication thing. Sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him, but also compromise if you see it's

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<v Speaker 1>really a problem. Don't ever pressure a man to do shit,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I don't think we should.

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<v Speaker 2>Be press sure to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Never put pressure on a man, because when they feel pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>they do shit like lie. They start telling you what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear and they don't even mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to get from up under that pressure. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, they start to lie, they start

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<v Speaker 1>to run, they start the cheat, they start to don't

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<v Speaker 1>pressure him.

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<v Speaker 2>Be upfront always. That's a tip that you could take

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I'm thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I still ain't got it all figured out relationship wise,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I'm doing pretty damn good because I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some bad examples.

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<v Speaker 2>To show me what not to do and what to

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<v Speaker 2>watch out for.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, actually I should call them good examples because I

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<v Speaker 1>know the nigga right now was thinking them niggas a

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, listen, we come to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>another Carefully Reckless episode where Jess is fixing your mess

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<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday on The Black Effect. Thank you, I Heart

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