1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fiream, It's me Jason McIntyre. Street 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Fire for Monday, January thirteenth. Oh boy, NFL Wildcard Weekend 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: is in the books, and we need to change Wildcard Weekend. 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: I mean, really, we've got to just scrap it. All 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: these college football fans who were upset about the college 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: football playoff. All the games were blowouts. Well did you 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: watch Wildcard weekend, folks? 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, one good game. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: That's it, Washington Tampa with a thriller on Sunday Night. 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: They saved the best for last, obviously, Sunday Night football. 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: The Doink by Zane Gonzalez pushes Washington and we'll get 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: into that game. The rest of the other games were 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: not phenomenal. Guys, Listen, I had a great weekend obviously. 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you follow me on social is my birthday. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: I had a phenomenal birthday weekend. Tough week to have it, 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: given what's happening in Los Angeles. But you know, I 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: did the usual thing. I coached my kids in sports. 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: I went to my son's volleyball tournament. My kids and 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: wife threw me like just a fun little day of 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: you want to play a board game, you wanna go 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: for a walk with a dog, let's go to dinner. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: And it was just an awesome weekend and one year older, 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: and you know it's just you feel old. But then 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: sitting around watching football, you feel great. And I gotta say, 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: Tampa Washington finally gave us a good game. And I 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't have any sweeping takeaways, but I 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: will say this. I saw a lot of people online 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: analysts coming into this Washington game. 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: Well, you gotta like Tampa. 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: There's no way that Washington, which during the regular season 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: was number one by a mile on fourth down percentage. 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: And it's crazy because Washington completed eighty six percent of 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: fourth downs last year. Philadelphia led the league at sixty seven. 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Two years ago, it was the Rams at seventy eight. 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Three years ago, it was New England at seventy one. Folks, 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Washington eighty six percent conversions on fourth down. And what 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: do they do in the big spot in the fourth quarter. 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: They go for it and fail, and they get another 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: chance and they thanks to a Baker Mayfield fumble, Washington 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: goes three for five on fourth down. Tampa did not 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: go for one. They have so much confidence in young 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, and we saw the first time quarterbacks in 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 2: the playoffs struggle in the form of Bownicks. We've seen 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: the history. We'll see how Sam Darnold does Deny his 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: first playoff game. Bo Nicks had a great opening drive 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: with the touchdown pass, and after that it was gat 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: Zoukes not good and Jayden and Daniels just undaunted. Man, 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: you watch this guy all season, You're like, Holy hell. 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels seven point seven yards per attempt, two touchdowns, 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: no turnovers, and led Washington and rushing thirteen for thirty 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: six yards. 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy made it. 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: Listen, this is his top targeted guy was McLaurin, but 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: he hit Diami Brown on five for eighty nine. He 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: loves Eckler, Ertz, Robinson, Ola, Medes, Zakahias. You guys, come on, 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: this is his who he's throwing to. Can you imagine 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: if they go get t Higgins or Tyreek Hill or 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: or Deebo Samuel, Oh my gosh, this team you could 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: And now listen, I saw people saying, hey, they can 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: beat Detroit. They let's just slow down for sec and 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: enjoy this win over Tampa only two for five in 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: the red zone. Probably not going to get it done 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: on the road in Detroit, but Jaden Daniels keeping plays 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: alive kind of a big analytics win. I thought the 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Sunday Night football game, I was personally surprised they didn't 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: kick to pull within seventeen sixteen with about twelve minutes left. 68 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: But listen the undercash on fifty one. Guys, if you 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: listened with Adam Chernoff on Friday's podcast, you made a 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: lot of money this weekend. Okay, teasers were just gold. 71 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: You remember when I laughed and told uh, turn off 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: the two bets that I'm the biggest on the teaser 73 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: and the parlay. Both of them cashed easily. I mean, 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: Philadelphia was a no sweat Buffalo after the first drive coasted, 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: Ravens were never really threatened. It was a very profitable weekend. 76 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not gonna come out here on crush 77 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. He had not his best game ever. Ultimately, listen, 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: if you tell me Baker's going to go fifteen of 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: eighteen for a buck eighty five and two touchdowns, I'm thinking, oh, 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: Tampa might win in a blowout because they didn't need 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: him to throw much. But the problem, the reason he 82 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: didn't throw much, Tampa just didn't really have the football. 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: I mean, Washington ran so many. Washington ran sixty nine plays, 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: Tampa forty four. Time of possession thirty five to twenty four. 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: Washington just controlled the ball thanks to converting on fourth downs. 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: You convert a fourth. 87 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: Down, you get basically an extra two minutes off the clock, 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: maybe an extra three minutes, depending on if you go 89 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 2: run run. You know what happens on the next series 90 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: of plays. But the fumble, I don't know if it's 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: on Baker. They ran a jet sweep deep in their 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: own end to the young kid McMillan. I couldn't tell 93 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: who that was really on. So I can't crush Baker. 94 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: All I can do is come out and say positive 95 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: things about Jadan Daniels and very impressive win rob for 96 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Washington and they advance a face Detroit. 97 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think the story of the night. You know 98 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: all Caps, Jaden Daniels. You mentioned it on fourth down 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: that they go for fourth down a lot there. One 100 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: of the more aggressive teams in all of football, you know. 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: I know Dan Campbell has the reputation, but maybe dan 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: Quinn is the guy who should be talking about as 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: being the gambling man. But Jade Daniels on third and 104 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: fourth down nine of fifteen for oneh eight, two touchdowns 105 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: converted eight first downs of those fifteen, Like that is 106 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: a winning formula any way you slice it. And as 107 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: a result, Jayden Daniels is now the first quarterback as 108 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: a rookie to win a road playoff game since Russell 109 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: Wilson in twenty twelve. Wow, this Washington team is building 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: something very very special. All Right, dan Quinn can run 111 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: a defense with the best of them, and it's only 112 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: going to get better as he gets his guys in 113 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: there that run his style and row his system and 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: that kind of fit what he likes to do. But 115 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: most importantly, you have a quarterback who just rises to 116 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: the occasion over and over and over and over. They 117 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: were showing clips during the broadcast. You know, everybody remembers 118 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: the Hail Mary against Chicago. You also had a game 119 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: winning touchdown against Philadelphia. You had a game winning touchdown 120 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: against Dallas. Like this is not you know, a flash 121 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: in the pan Ol. This don't happen one time this season, 122 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 4: And you can't do no He's done it a few 123 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 4: times now. On the final drive in this game, gotta 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: have it. Backs against the wall, three for three forty 125 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: four passing yards, including a third down conversion where it's 126 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: third and one. He gets hit seven yards behind the 127 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, shakes off a defensive tackle, picks up 128 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: three yards to get the first down YEA, which allows 129 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: them here's the big thing to use all four minutes 130 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: and forty one seconds of the clock. They got the 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: ball before forty one. The game ended at zero. Baker 132 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: Mayfield never even got the opportunity to see what he 133 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: could do. Jaden Daniels, I'm not saying that he's gonna 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: be the next Lamar Jackson unless the comparison everybody wants 135 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: to make, but he is something special. I remember we 136 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: were saying earlier in the season how I was skeptical 137 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: early on because people were saying, well, look, this guy 138 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: is like he's great, He's at RGI three numbers. This 139 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: guy's gonna be the next great quarterback. And I was like, hey, 140 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: you know, bump the brakes. We just saw CJ. Stroud. 141 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: Historically you get one of these every twenty years. This 142 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: is not what happens regularly in the NFL, and I 143 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: was dead wrong because Jayde and Daniels is doing comparably, 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: if not better than what CJ. Stroud did last year. 145 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: Back to back seasons, we're having rookie quarterbacks that are 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: breaking the mold and setting up franchises that are perennial 147 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say losers, but perennial mediocre franchises and 148 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: suddenly they have optionsm going forward. This is great. 149 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jayden Daniels is awesome. 150 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: Now, I just as you started talking about Jayden winning 151 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: with his legs, I was like, let me see how 152 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: Detroit has done against running quarterbacks this year? 153 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 154 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: Not great? 155 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: So in their loss to Tampa and maybe we just 156 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: chalk it up as nothing because it was a bad 157 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: game plan, rare bad game plan from Ben Johnson. Baker 158 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: led the Bucks in rushing five for thirty four yards 159 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: in their loss to Buffalo Josh Allen eleven for sixty 160 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: eight two touchdowns, and in the game against Anthony Richardson, 161 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: which was close for a while, Richardson had ten for 162 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: sixty one. 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying Daniels as any of those guys. 164 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: He's obviously better than Anthony Richardson, and you know, probably 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: better than Baker, certainly at this age, better than Baker, 166 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: but I wonder how much because remember they blitzed the 167 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: hell out of Sam Donald in week eighteen, Rob and 168 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: Donald was rattled. Well, not only does Jayden and Daniel 169 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: not get rattled, but he. 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: Just runs around the blitzes. 171 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 2: I mean that play where, like you said, at the 172 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: end of the game, the defensive lineman was chasing him. 173 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw, but like I think 174 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: he had. He either grabbed Jayden's towel or picked up 175 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: a towel, but he was like chasing after Jayden and 176 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: Daniels with a towel in his hand, like that was 177 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: gonna do something. It was just sheer desperation. He's just 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: too elusive. Now I'm looking at the line. Holy hell, 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: if you haven't looked, Rob, do you want to guess 180 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: what the line is? 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Or do you already know? 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 183 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: I actually saw two different places. I don't know if 184 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: I saw it once and it was already bet down 185 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: or just have totally different shops. But I saw it 186 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: most recently eight and a half. 187 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight and a half, I don't know. I guess 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: that means they think they're thinking blowout. 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: I need to look a little bit more so Washington. 190 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sometimes I like to check. So I missed 191 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: this on the on the Chargers game, but the Chargers 192 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: had Yeah. Okay, so the Chargers had the early one 193 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: of the earliest buys in the league. It might have 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: been the first buy way back in October. I might 195 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: have mentioned this, but and then they had three road games. 196 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: This playoff game was their third, and they look gassed. 197 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: Did you see them in the second half? The defense 198 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: like was fighting like hell the first half. These just 199 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: ran out of gas and the Texas ran out big numbers. 200 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: So I was looking at Washington. They had an early 201 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: December by second week in December, so theoretically they should 202 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: be pretty fresh. This will also be their third straight 203 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: road game. They finished the season at Dallas and then 204 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: they were at Tampa and then at Detroit. That's a 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: tough one. I don't know that I'm ready to get 206 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: there with Washington yet. But oh, that's a great teaser. 207 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: Just take Detroit on a six and a half or 208 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: seven point teaser under a field goal and boom. Like 209 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: teasers have been guys. 210 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 211 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 212 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 213 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: listen live. 214 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: Let's move to the next game. 215 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: So I don't know, Like again, I don't want to 216 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: be in like an argument with Rob or maybe Cowherd 217 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: today or people online. I don't get this. Mike Tomlin anger, Okay. 218 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: All he does is instill an amazing culture in Pittsburgh. 219 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: He keeps them relevant every year they're in the playoffs 220 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: five hundred or better. And often he's doing it with 221 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: inferior talent, right, especially at quarterback. Yes, Mike Tomlin has 222 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: lost six straight playoff games. That's not great. That's not great. 223 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: And then you start to dig into the numbers and 224 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: you know he's down twenty one nothing to the Ravens. 225 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 226 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: They got smoked by the Bills last year in the playoffs. 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: You go to that Chiefs game in twenty one, they 228 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: were getting blasted, an embarrassing loss to the Browns with 229 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger. In twenty twenty, that lost to the Jaguars 230 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: was at home. If you guys remember, there was some 231 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: weird stuff going on. I don't know if it was 232 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown. I would have to look into it. That 233 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: was a good Pittsburgh team. They went thirteen and three, 234 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: and I feel like somebody just blew off. 235 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: The walk through. It might have been Antonio Brown. I 236 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: don't remember who it was. 237 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: Do you remember was it either is it there Brown? 238 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Or Bell Bell Levy? I might have been Levey on Bell, 239 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: But bottom line, they didn't take that game seriously and 240 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: then they ended up losing. I think it was like 241 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: forty five to forty two. Jacksonville was on was like 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: a quarter away from making the Super Bowl with Blake Portals, 243 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: and then they collapsed against the Patriots. I remember that 244 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: because I it was we were kind of new ish 245 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: to California, I think, and I had taken the kids 246 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: to a Laker game that day. We were able to 247 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: get Lakers tickets. I'm like, well, Patriots, come on, they're 248 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: gonna crush the Jags. And I'm following the game on 249 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: my phone. I'm like, holy hell, the jackson win this. 250 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: And on the car ride home, you know, if you 251 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: guys have a certain cable, you can there's an app 252 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: and you can watch the game. And I remember watching it, 253 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: and of course the Jags melted against the Patriots, but 254 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: they were close. That was a good Jags team. I 255 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: looked it up. 256 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: So in these six playoff games. 257 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Steelers were underdogs in four, considerable underdogs in three. And yeah, 258 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: the Browns game was bad. Ben Roethlisberger, who was washed 259 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: through a billion interceptions and I think he had two 260 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: pick sixes in that one, definitely one, and it was 261 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: just it was bad. 262 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: I can't kill Mike Tomlin. 263 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: And I will say this, if Mike Tomlins fired, he 264 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: will get hired somewhere else in a second. The Jets 265 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: would take him in a heartbeat. The Jets have never 266 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: had a culture since Rex Ryan left. And know that 267 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I want Rex Ryan back. But Rob, just 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: because Tomlins failed in some playoff games, are you. 269 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: Ready to run him off? 270 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: And I asked that because the sentiment I got online 271 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: after the Ravens smacked Baltimore after the Ravens smacked around 272 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: the Steelers on Saturday night, a game that was boring 273 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: as hell, by the way, and at one point I 274 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: actually turned off and my son and I watched Deadpool 275 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: Versus Wolverine. That movie's awesome. You absolutely need to see it. 276 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: It's on Disney Plus. I believe phenomenal. I can't crush Tomlin, 277 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: like maybe they need a new voice. But there's also 278 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: a sentiment is, hey, guys, we've been relevant for a while. 279 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: Do we want to become the Jets or the Browns 280 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: or the Titans or one of these rotten franchises. I 281 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: just I remind people Dolphins lose Shula. Do you know 282 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: how long it took them to get a playoff win? 283 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: And Shula wasn't great at the end. The quarterbacks that 284 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: Tomlin has had in his last two playoff losses are 285 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph and Russell Wilson. Okay, probably both backups right 286 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: now when you're facing good team. So I can't crush Tomlin. 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: But Rob has a lot of AMMO. And I'm sure 288 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: there's people you know, let's get rid of them. I 289 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: just want to remind people these this is kind of 290 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: a macro football thing and Rob and I think Rob's 291 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: touched on this before. The NFL on Sundays during the 292 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: regular season is awesome. There's so many games going on, 293 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: You've got whiplash from this game to that game. Everybody 294 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: watches red Zone or bouncers around on whatever other other 295 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: way they watch YouTube. Eight games at once. It is 296 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: phenomenal the product with that many games at the same time. 297 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Nothing beats it. 298 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: Nothing. 299 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: And then you get Island games like this weekend, and 300 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: you remember, I love football, I do, but guys, this 301 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: was just a boring ass football weekend. I could not 302 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: sit there. And maybe that's like, maybe I just don't 303 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: have the patience, but I could not sit there and 304 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: watch the entire second half of Chargers Texans. It was bad. 305 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: Ravens Steelers was bad. 306 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: I just I feel like people are overreacting because the 307 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: games are bad. And oh wait, we'll get to this 308 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: guy soon. Jordan Love should not have paid him, no way, 309 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: not worth it, Like he had a terrible game. Justin 310 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: Herbert is trash. Oh he's so overrated. 311 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: I had some. 312 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: JABBRONI say, Justin Herbert is basically Jeff George and at 313 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: that point I had That's why I had to close 314 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: out social media. I was like, I don't mean this 315 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: is I feel dumber hearing this stuff. Seriously, Like, I 316 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: feel like people are going overboard in the Island games. 317 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: But when there's seven games going on on a Sunday, 318 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: we don't overreact like this. And it's kind of sort 319 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,239 Speaker 2: of we're seeing that happen in college football where Texas 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: loses and I said, wow, Sark blew that game. We 321 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: gotta get rid of Sark or what was the there 322 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: was another one? Oh James Franklin. Oh he's one in fifteen. 323 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: I guess top fight. We gotta get rid of him. 324 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: It's like, can we just pump the brakes? Can we 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: slow down? I get it, you're frustrated. Tomlin has lost 326 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: six straight playoff games, many of them blowouts. But moving 327 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: on from him to me seems absolutely crazy. And if 328 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: they do move on from remember Andy Reid won a 329 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: ton in Philly, never broke through, never won the Super Bowl. 330 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: They got rid of him. He was hired in a 331 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: Nano second by the Chiefs. He gets handed Patrick Mahomes. 332 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: And now remember Andy Reid, who could not win the 333 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: big game in Philly? Is now is he? Is? He? Belichick? 334 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, you have He's amazing? 335 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: Now, Like, are we seeing how that work? I don't know, Rob. 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: It just kind of rubs me the wrong. 337 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: Way a little bit. 338 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: Well quickly, I think the reason why these games felt 339 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 4: so boring and the reason why the college football Playoff 340 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: for the most part has been boring is that, at 341 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: least in the NFL, of the twelve quarterbacks that played 342 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: a wildcard weekend, maybe not even half of them played well. 343 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: So when you have bad quarterback play, it makes the 344 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: product excruciatingly difficult to watch. But as far as Mike 345 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: Tomlin goes full disclosure, I wish Mike Tomlin was the 346 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: Raiders coach. Like I think Mike Tomlin is a fantastic coach. 347 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: I think is one of those guys who can build 348 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: a culture and you just see what happens when Antonio 349 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: Brown left. You know, you saw how crazy that guy was. 350 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 4: When Levy on Ball left, you saw with the Jets, 351 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: you know what kind of problems he presents. Deontate Johnson, 352 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 4: uh could you know basically was on his third team 353 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: this season because he was such a head case. You know, 354 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: you see what's happening with George Pickens. So he does 355 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: a good job of managing egos and managing players and 356 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: making them, for the most part, play at their maximum ability. 357 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: So I think he he definitely is an upper echelon coach. 358 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: One three, one oh seven and two in the regular 359 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 4: season is nothing to Heze never had a losing record. 360 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 4: Famously The problem, though, when you alluded to this, is 361 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: that he's eight and eleven in the postseason. He has 362 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 4: eight one and done playoff appearances, one short of the 363 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 4: NFL record. Oh boy, that's not the record that you 364 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 4: want to have. And to your point, to your point, 365 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: his last six playoff games, it's not just that they've lost, 366 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: it's that the games were over before they even really started. Okay, 367 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 4: trailed thirty six to nine against the Patriots, trailed twenty 368 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: one nothing against the Jags, and Blake Bortle, trailed twenty 369 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: eight to nothing in the first quarter against Baker and 370 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: the Browns, trailed thirty five to seven against the Chiefs, 371 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: trail twenty one nothing to Buffalo, and then of course 372 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: on Saturday, twenty one nothing at a half time to 373 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: Lamar and Baltimore Ravens. So the problem with Mike Tomlin again, 374 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: I think he's a really good coach, but he has 375 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: said it himself repeatedly. The standard is the standard, and 376 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers are not in the business of being competitive. 377 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers are not in the business of, hey, 378 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: we've never had a losing season under this guy. They're 379 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: in the business of championships, Like, that's the standard in Pittsburgh. 380 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: That's the same standard you get with San Francisco. You 381 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: get the same kind of standard with the Green Bay Packers, 382 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: Like they're not in it to be a wild card team, 383 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: and we make the playoffs and gave our doors blown off. 384 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 4: They are in the business of winning Super Bowls. And 385 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, as good of a coach as he is, 386 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: it's entirely possible that he's kind of just run his 387 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: course because famously, Tomlin is one of only a handful 388 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: of NFL head coaches that does not call either the 389 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 4: offense or the defense. He is a CEO head coach, 390 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: which is interesting because actually a couple of the guys 391 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: that are electric CEO at coaches. I think it's Sirianni Hardball 392 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: in Baltimore. I think there's another one as well. But 393 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: if you're not calling the offense and you're not calling 394 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: the defense, and you can't seem to get your guys 395 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: motivated to play at their best when their best is 396 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: required in the postseason, like, what is it that you're 397 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: bringing to the table. If you're Pittsburgh, wouldn't you much 398 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: rather take a swing for the fences? And go after 399 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: a Johnson from from the Lions, Ben Johnson, wouldn't you 400 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: want to swing for the fences and get Liam Cohen 401 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: from from Tampa? That is just a justificant and just 402 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: take a risk at this point, like what you know? 403 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: So if you if it doesn't work out, you go 404 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: from ten and seven to you know what, seven and ten? 405 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: Is that that big of a different no, because you 406 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: just get a higher draft pick. So again, I think 407 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlan is a great coach. I'd rather him be 408 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 4: with my team than any other team. But at some 409 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: point you gotta get over the. 410 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: Hop kind of harsh rob Man, so it's weird him 411 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: and I would take Mike Tomlin in a heartbeat on 412 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: the jetson Raiders, but as of now the Steelers, it 413 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense now. Rob did have a good argument 414 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: about Tony Dungee and I'm looking him up in Tampa. 415 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: He went ten and six, eight and eight, eleven and five, 416 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: and they lost in the NFC title Game. Ten and 417 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: six lost in a wildcard, nine and seven lost in 418 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: a wildcard. 419 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: Fired him, and you want to guess who won the 420 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: Super Bowl In. 421 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, the year after they fired him, The 422 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Maybe they just needed a new voice. 423 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Now going from Dungee to Gruden, I'm trying to think back. 424 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: What was Gruden around two thousand. 425 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: He was one of the at the time, one of 426 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: the great young head coaches in the NFL, because remember 427 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: he got higher Chucky or he was Chucky with the Raiders, 428 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: and I think he had come off of losing the 429 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 4: Tuck Rule game either the year before that year, yes, okay, 430 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: and I believe famously Tampa offered a first round pick 431 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: for him and they're like, okay, sure, I mean it's 432 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 4: you know, we can duplicate it. We have the offensive 433 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: coordinator right here, Callahan is gonna be just fine. And 434 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: they were just fine. I think rich Gannon won the 435 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: MVP the next year. But the problem is they ran 436 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: into the you know what was it the teacher becomes 437 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: the master, and they ran into the guy who really 438 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: ran all that stuff, and they ran the exact same 439 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: place that Gruden was there as against him, and that 440 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: was famously one of the worst feat down in superl history. 441 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: So Gruden in Oakland, Oakland at the time twelve and 442 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: four and they lose to the Ravens ten and six, 443 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: lose to the Patriots, and I guess was the tuck 444 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: rule game. 445 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: And then they. 446 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: Trade him or move on from him, and then he 447 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: goes to Tampa trade him, and he goes to Tampa 448 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: wins instantly. Gruden's interesting, We're not going to do it here, 449 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: but career record as a head coach five games above 450 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: five hundred, career playoff record five and four. But he 451 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: has a Super Bowl. It can't take that away from him. 452 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: I would say the third biggest story in the NFL 453 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: this weekend. Apologies to Justin Herbert. It ain't It ain't 454 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: his struggles. It was probably the poor play of Jordan Love. 455 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: Now we tried to warn you guys. Without Christian Watson, 456 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: this team offensively is extremely limited through the air, and 457 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: we saw that Jordan Love through I think it was 458 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: the interception. Was that the oh no, they fumbled the kickoff. 459 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: They fumbled the opening kickoff and we're down seven to 460 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: nothing within two minutes, which was obviously a bad omen. 461 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: And then they have the pick. Later in the first half, 462 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: they got the miss field goal, another pick. It was 463 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: just it was not good. At one point it was 464 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: sixteen to three. Then they go with some tempo start 465 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: to get back in the game. But it never felt 466 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: like they were really back in the game, did it, Rob. 467 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: No, Never, That game was never as close to the 468 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: score would suggest. 469 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 470 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: That was when I was coaching both my kids, my 471 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: son's team. Listen, we we had an epic performance. And 472 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm asking the scorekeepers and the referee, he you got 473 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: a backer score. I was waiting for it to get 474 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: close and get like, okay, I gotta watch it on 475 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: the sideline. And I mean we I think the highest 476 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: scoring game I've ever had for a team in youth basketball. 477 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: We just we had like nine threes. I mean, guys, 478 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: who I didn't think of you threes, which is banging threes. 479 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: And then I had to go to the next gym 480 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: next door and coach my daughter's team, and you know, 481 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: we played the same team we played last week, which 482 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: was a barn burner, and we were more than ready 483 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: to beat them again. And I'll just say we led 484 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: twenty to zero at the end of the first quarter. 485 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: And that's all you need to know about that game. 486 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: So I didn't see a ton of Jordan Love. I 487 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: did watch the condensed version, and I don't listen, I'm 488 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: not going to bash the guy. I'm not gonna make 489 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: this sweeping indictment that he's not worth the money. They 490 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: got a young team. They did not show up the 491 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: way they did last year in the playoffs. I do 492 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: believe they missed Christian Watson badly. And I think this 493 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: Eagles team is just really freaking good. This is a 494 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: not a juggernaut Eagles team. I know they didn't play great, 495 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: but this was like, would you say this was like 496 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: their C plus game? 497 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: Rob? 498 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: They were two for eleven on third down, Like. 499 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, see see even not even a C plus. 500 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: And they wouldn't cover but without much of a sweat. Yeah, 501 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: And people are like, oh boy, egos susceptible, Jordan. People 502 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: just want to overreact significantly to one game, and I don't. 503 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: I I like doing that, trust me, it's fun. But 504 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: for some reason, Rob, this weekend didn't feel like the 505 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: weekend to do it. I don't know. Am I missing something? 506 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: No? 507 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: I mean, like again, you never want to overreact to 508 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: one game. And your point about the Justin Herbert discourse, 509 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: even if I'm lower on Justin Herbert than you are, 510 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: I would agree that he's he's a really good quarterback 511 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 4: and He's not as bad as that one playoff game 512 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: will suggest. We just talked about Mike Tomlin. You know, 513 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin had a horrible performance there against Baltimore. I again, 514 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: I still think that he's a good coach. I wanted 515 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: to be a coach my Raiders. The thing with Jordan Love, though, 516 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: is I don't think this is just a one game 517 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: commentary about him. Okay, last season, over the final leg 518 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: games famously eighteen touchdowns, one pick. The problem is the 519 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: first nine games fourteen touchdowns, ten interceptions. So he has 520 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 4: eight great games and nine that are mediocre at best. 521 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: Comes add to this season. I know he has the 522 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: knee injury to start, but the reality is this. He 523 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: had more multi interception games than anybody in football since 524 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: it started last season. He has seven of them this 525 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 4: season according to Next Gen Stats, not even counting the 526 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 4: playoff game where he throws three picks. By percentage of 527 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: accurate throw rate, which you know it's not complete a 528 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: percentages whether or not the throw they determined was accurate 529 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: and the receiver makes a great catch or what have you. 530 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 4: Or if a guy throws it out of bounds, that's 531 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: a different conversation. Based on accurate throw rate with ESPNX, 532 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: since that's he ranks thirty five out of thirty nine 533 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: bottom five quarterback in football accurate throw percentage of only 534 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: forty five point two percent this season. So there's a 535 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: legitimate conversation to be had. This is not just off 536 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 4: of Sunday's game. Did they make a mistake with Jordan Love? 537 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 4: I mean, at the time when the ink was dry 538 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 4: on that contract, it was I know, he looked great 539 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: down the stretch, he looked awesome against Dallas, but he 540 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 4: only had nine good games the whole season. Are we 541 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: sure we need to pay him fifty five million dollars 542 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: a year? And ultimately, you believe in the Packers historically 543 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: know how to evaluate quarterbacks. You trust their judgment. You 544 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 4: think that they see something that the rest of us 545 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 4: don't see. And he kind of just became more of 546 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: what he was at the started last season. So at 547 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 4: this point in his career, that eight games is the outlier, 548 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: not the rule. So you you know, you've got to 549 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: be willing to have an uncontrolled conversation if you're a 550 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 4: Green Bay about whether or not this guy really is 551 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: a franchise. In the words of Bucky Brooks, Is he 552 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 4: a truck or he's a trailer. Is he the guy 553 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: who's gonna pull us and carry us where we gotta go? 554 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: Or is he a guy that's gonna need a great 555 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: defense and Josh Jacobs and he just does enough to 556 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: protect us so we can win that way? 557 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: All right, I'll play Devil's advocate. Sure, Why does it 558 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 2: have to be truck or trailer, black or white? Why 559 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: can't it be like, hey, he's a little inconsistent. He's 560 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: a twenty six year old quarterback like this. This the guy 561 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: who led the country in interceptions at Utah State. He's 562 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: a good quarterback. He has moments of greatness and he 563 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: has moments of Oh he's terrible. And I know that's 564 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: not what you want. 565 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: In your franchise quarterback. 566 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I feel like it's a I'm 567 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: just looking now. He had one three hundred yard game 568 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: all season. It was in a loss to Minnesota. Other 569 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: than that is high was like three hundred and seventy 570 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: three yards or something. 571 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: But I guess, Rob, when I think about. 572 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: A guy like like Jayden Daniels, like I don't want 573 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: to hear the comparisons to Patrick Mahomes because when I say, oh, 574 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: well he didn't have Christian Watson, the instant counter from 575 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: the Peanut Galleries. Well, wait a minute, Patrick Mahomes got 576 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: rid of Tyreek Hill, who still won a Super Bowl. 577 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: There's one Patrick Mahomes guys. That's it. There's one, you know, 578 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: there's one. Rock Perty loses his one or two of 579 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: his guys this year and he becomes like, oh is 580 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: he any good? You know, I like Lafleur a lot. 581 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: It's tough when you fumble the opening kickoff and you're 582 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: in a seven to nothing hole before your quarterback takes 583 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: a stamp like that sucks. That's terrible, that's awful. And 584 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, I just think the comparisons to Mahomes because 585 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't like Josh Allen got off of 586 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. He's having He's gonna be the MVP. 587 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: Don't give me excuses for her. People are doing this 588 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: with Herbert. 589 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: They're saying he hasn't won a playoff game, and he 590 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: has him meltdown in a playoff game with what four 591 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: interceptions when he had three all regular season, and then 592 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: in the last playoff game and they were up what 593 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: twenty seven to nothing and lose the game or some 594 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: whatever the numbers were a few years back, it's like, 595 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: well he's not good, Like can we I know, we 596 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: need hot takes. People want the takes. They're here for 597 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: the takes. Okay, I just remember, like, go look up 598 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: a pro football reference Peyton Manning. Go look up his 599 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: first five years in the league, five playing quarterback, not 600 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: sitting like Jordan Love. First five years, zero playoff wins. 601 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: He had three playoff games, completetion percentage under sixty percent, 602 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: two of them were under I think under fifty percent. 603 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: And and now that social media didn't exist, so we 604 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: weren't like, wait a minute, maybe Peyton's not the guy 605 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: that that wasn't like a thing because you would watch 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning falter in the playoffs and there's no bag, 607 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: a phone, online, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter to just shout and 608 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: just blast him, and you know, you get fans all 609 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: over the country doing it, and it's like, oh he stinks, 610 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: and I just I just it just seems a little overreact, 611 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: a little reaction. Rob Let me ask you one other thing. 612 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 613 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 614 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 615 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: listen live. 616 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: You and I are in agreement that the games this weekend, 617 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: for Walkcard weekend were terrible. 618 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, except for Sunday night. 619 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I myself did not watch a lot of pregame 620 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: shows halftime shows, did you? And if you didn't, did 621 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: you see any clips from the halftime show or pregame 622 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 2: show or postgame show where the studio hosts the analysts 623 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: were ripping the quality of play and the players and 624 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: the teams and the coaches. Did you see any trashing? 625 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: Now it's possible I missed it. 626 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: But did you see any clips circulating? 627 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: I did not. The closest I saw to that was 628 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: some Rob Gronkowski commentary which was actually a replay of 629 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: before the Mike Rabel hire where it was it was 630 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: him going off about the Girodmeo fail. So okay, But 631 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: as far as the football itself. 632 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: No interesting. Did you see anybody call. 633 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin like a choke artist or a loser or 634 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: any anybody credible on television? 635 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: I believe so, but not that harshly. It was, Oh, 636 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 4: maybe they got to move on? 637 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: Who? 638 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: Who? 639 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 4: Who said that I want to say. Jimmy Johnson was 640 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: one who said. 641 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: That, Oh Jimmy Okay, Now that okay. So that's what 642 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm looking for. And you know what I'm talking about. 643 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: This is the Barklay thing. So one of the guys 644 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: on my men's basketball team, I hadn't seen him in 645 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: a few weeks. I see him and we're talking about 646 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: the upcoming season, and he goes, Hey, what happened with 647 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: you and Charles Barkley? And I started laughing because usually 648 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: we just talk about hoops and life and kids and 649 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: volleyball because our daughters play volleyball. And he's like, yeah, 650 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: that was a big story. I had people hit me 651 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: up and be like, yo, you're friends with j mac right, 652 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: what happened with him in Barkley? You play basketball with Jason? 653 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, I guess it went viral, you know, 654 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: I guess he didn't hear that that was you know, 655 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Rob g fed me that bad boy and Barkley should 656 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: have come after you. It was a great take, and 657 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: I expounded and then JJ Reddick took the baton and 658 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: ran it, you know whatever. But I found it interesting 659 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: that he asked about that, and then I thought about 660 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: it Barkley and how, oh my gosh, if the Detroit 661 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 2: Pistons made the playoffs and lost the first game by 662 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: thirty seven, he would be making a total mockery and 663 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: just trash the Detroit Pistons. And I'm wondering why, Rob 664 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: does this happen in basketball all the time with inside 665 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: the NBA, and yet it never happens with NBC, CBS 666 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: or Fox because you can even toss the ESPN. I 667 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: I haven't watched the pregame show ever, but pregame, postgame whatever. 668 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: Maybe Sports Center is different, but I'm just talking about 669 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 2: studio shows, shoulder programming around the games. 670 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 4: The simple answer is the partners of the NFL and 671 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: the analyst they have on TV watch the games. M. 672 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: Charles Barkley admittedly famously has said he does not watch 673 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: the games. He has fallen asleep. They make jokes about 674 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: it on the broadcast off him falling asleep during playoff games. 675 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 4: There is an entire segment built into the show. Again, 676 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: it's entertaining as help, but there is entire segment build 677 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: into the show where they say, hey, here's the name, 678 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 4: here's a face, Charles, what team does he play for? No? Nine? 679 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 4: Hears in the time he gets him wrong. Now, I 680 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: don't know about you, but even me, as a fan 681 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 4: who has to cover all the sports, can get some 682 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 4: of these. If you only got to worry about one 683 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 4: and you can't do it, that kind of says a lot. 684 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: Okay, let me let's do that real quick. I didn't 685 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: know this was a game, so. 686 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I think it's called who he played for. 687 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to. 688 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 2: Tell you what team. Isaiah Collier Utah Jazz. 689 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: Do you know that because he went off? 690 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: No? 691 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 4: I know that because he went He went viral on 692 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: Sunday for in the last minute of the game calling 693 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 4: Sexon's calling for the ball after an inbound and Collier 694 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: waves him off and gets eight second violation because I 695 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 4: didn't pass half court. 696 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 2: Oh so that was kind of funny, all right. 697 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: Jordan Hawkins Jordan Pelicans, Okay, okay to and oh Justin Champagne. 698 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: Spurs close because I think you let me check. I 699 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: think he was Spurs last year. He's on the Wizards now, Ah, 700 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: I guess there's two Champagnes. 701 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: But he didn't play for the Spurs. But he's don't 702 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: watch it like like that. 703 00:35:59,680 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: This is. 704 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: It's probably a two way guy. They lost by forty 705 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: to the thunder whatever. But yeah, like you're Charles Barkley, 706 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: you gotta know that now. Then again, I football is different. 707 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: You can't ask me where back what teams backup lineman 708 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: played for. 709 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna know, right. 710 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: You know, if we limited the starters, you're probably gonna 711 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 2: clip it ninety five percent and I would probably get 712 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: ninety five. But yeah, I just I did find that odd. 713 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: It's not it's not a total shot at Barkley. It 714 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: kind of is, But I just I didn't see any 715 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: and there was Listen, there's plenty to be potentially negative about, right, 716 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. 717 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 4: Right, well, even even something as simple as this. Right, 718 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 4: we open the show talking about Jan Daniels. Jane Daniels 719 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 4: was fantastic on Sunday Night, but what he did was 720 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 4: incredible on the road. Rookie quarterback gets the win, he's 721 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: gonna go face, he's probably gonna lose to be Oscards. 722 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 4: He's to Detroit. If this was an nbaight segment, if 723 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 4: this was inside the NBA, they'd probably say, hey, great 724 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 4: game by that young kid. But they're gonna get their 725 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: doors blown off in the second round. Like, that's not 726 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 4: the story tonight. You know, into Monday morning, the NFL 727 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 4: is going to focus and highlight Look what this guy did, 728 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 4: Look what this young Look what they're building in Washington. 729 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: Thursday Friday, when we start really previewing that weekend's game, 730 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 4: then we'll get into it and say, hey, you know what, 731 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 4: as great as Jaye and Daniel is, the reality is 732 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 4: Detroit is just a better team than. 733 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: They're over maxing, right, But. 734 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: That's not the time to have that conversation. And the 735 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 4: way the NBA is built is, yeah, you know, Oklahoma 736 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 4: City is good, but you know they're so small, they're 737 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 4: probably not they're not. They're nothing in the playoffs. The Knicks, 738 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 4: you know, they're not gonna be in the playoffs. The Celtics, 739 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: up until last year, they don't win in the playoff. 740 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 4: Jason Tatum always comes up small in the playoffs. Yeah, 741 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 4: And it's like, how are we gonna care about the 742 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 4: regular season on a night to night basis and what 743 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 4: we saw if we're only worried about what happens in April, 744 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 4: May and June. 745 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: And that's yeah, it's interesting. 746 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 3: I'm cure now. 747 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: The Lamar Jackson one is going to be interesting. He 748 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: is ripe for criticism if he doesn't deliver. 749 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: That. 750 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: Being said, he's going up against Josh Allen, the likely MVP. 751 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 2: To me, there's no loser in that game. I think 752 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: that's the That's an amazing game. It's next Sunday afternoon. 753 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: I will do everything in my power to not be 754 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: coaching my kids in sports. I think that game's phenomenal. 755 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: The rest of the games, Houston at Kansas City, I 756 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: see the Chiefs as eight point favorites. 757 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: I don't I didn't think Houston was good. 758 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't care that they ran all over or ran 759 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 2: up some yardage on the Chargers. Ain't no way Mahomes 760 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: is throwing four picks. I don't know about laying the eight. 761 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you who the teaser pairing is in a second. 762 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: And Saturday night is Washington at Detroit Detroit minus eight 763 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: and a half. 764 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now. 765 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: I already went big on Chiefs teas down to minus 766 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 2: two and Detroit's teas down to minus two and a half. Now, yes, 767 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: there's a chance that Jayden Daniel screws that up, but 768 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 2: I'm willing to take that chance. I think it's the 769 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: best way to go. I don't know about just the 770 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 2: eight or the eight and a half. The other game 771 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: Baltimore Buffalo, I see it's a pick them games in Buffalo. 772 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait to see the weather because I did 773 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: see reports of snow. I gotta be honest, guys, I 774 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 2: have no idea who's winning that game, no read whatsoever. 775 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 3: It is a legitimate toss up. 776 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if the Ravens won or 777 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: the Bills. I have no rooting interest. The only interest 778 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: I have is whichever team is gonna give me a 779 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: better chance to take down the Chiefs. That's who I'm backing. 780 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: And then the other game Sunday early game will be 781 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: the winner of Vikings Rams at Philly. And I will 782 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: say this. The change of venue for the Rams tonight 783 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: to Arizona and these terrible, awful fires that have just 784 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: crippled Los Angeles, I gotta say, folks, I don't feel 785 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: as confident about the Rams as I did. You know, 786 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: six days ago. I just I watched the Chargers kind 787 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: of melt down there in the second half, and I part, 788 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: I think it was a lot of fatigue, but I 789 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: started to wonder do they have friends and family impacted 790 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: by the fire who are evacuated and lost it. I 791 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, surely some people on the team 792 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 2: are impacted by some stuff, and is that the case 793 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: with the Rams? I don't know the answer to that, 794 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: And without getting a clear cut answer, I mean, my 795 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: bets are in. I'm not going to buy out of them. 796 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: I think if the Rams are able to play their game, 797 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: I think they win, but I don't feel as good 798 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: as I did before. I will say unequivocally, I'm going 799 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: to be on Philadelphia against Minnesota as long as it's 800 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 2: not an exorbitant number. 801 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: I think Philadelphia. 802 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, Philadelphia will have like an extra day to prepare obviously, 803 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: but they don't know who their opponent is. I guess 804 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: an extra day of rest, but I would lean as 805 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: of now Casey Detroit. Oh, I don't. 806 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 807 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 2: You give me your thoughts on Baltimore Buffalo before. I 808 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: honestly don't know who's gonna win that game. 809 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 4: Well, I'm on the record, I'm openly rooting for Lamar Jackson. 810 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: Oh. 811 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 4: I want to see the coronation at this point, like 812 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 4: I believe he's goninge MVP. I think when the All 813 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: Pro votes came out, and historically the quarterback who's first 814 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 4: team All Pro and up turning the MVP. So that's 815 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: what I care. But as far as the matchup itself, 816 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 4: Josh Allen against Denver three hundred and eighteen total yars, 817 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 4: two touchdowns, Lamar Jackson against Pittsburgh two fifty six total yards, 818 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 4: two touchdowns. Those guys did it against defenses that are 819 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 4: number three and number eight I think in scoring defense, 820 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: and neither guy was ever really threatened after the first quarter. 821 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 4: So for my money, this is whatever the game of 822 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 4: the playoffs. I'm more excited about this game than I 823 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 4: had even potentially about a Super Bowl, Like these are 824 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 4: the two teams that I really wanted to see go 825 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 4: ahead to d and I'm glad it sucks over getting 826 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 4: so early, but I'm excited about that spinning forward to 827 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: I guess Tonight's can do that first. There is two 828 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 4: full conversation Number one, as far as the emotionality part 829 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 4: of it, you know, the fires are devastating around here. 830 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 4: I personally know people who have been displaced. I'm sure 831 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 4: you probably do as well. But there was a player 832 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 4: on the Rams who was doing. Was talking to a 833 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 4: reporter on Friday, and he said something to the effect of, 834 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 4: I'm glad that we're here because now I'm just focused 835 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 4: on football. And if he's saying that, I promise you 836 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 4: there's at least twenty thirty percent of the team minimum 837 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 4: who feels the same way. So to your point, are 838 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 4: we sure they're as locked in as they probably should 839 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 4: be for a playoff game? I can't say that's number one. 840 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 4: Number two, And this is the practicality part of it is, 841 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: in the last three games that Stafford and the offense 842 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 4: all played, they're only averaging fourteen points a game. Well, 843 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 4: you know, like any way you slice it, this is 844 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 4: not looking great for the Rams. And that was even 845 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 4: when they had home field advantage. It wasn't because they 846 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 4: weren't scoring too well. Now that it's a neutral site, 847 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 4: you got all this devastation. I'm sure a handful of 848 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 4: the staffers are players is either displaced or knows someone 849 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 4: who had to get displaced. And so you know, Minnesota 850 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 4: definitely feels like the side in this one. 851 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're kind of an agreement. 852 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: I am a little surprised that Lamar Jackson love the 853 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: way Derek Can. We ran all over Pittsburgh, and I 854 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: saw Buffalo's run defense a little porous. 855 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: I have a mild concern there. I just think night game. 856 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo, it is gonna be a Bonker's crowd. I lean slight, 857 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: slight leaned to the Buffalo Bills. But nothing would surprise me. 858 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 2: And I probably won't have a cent on that game. 859 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 2: Maybe some props. All right, long Monday Pod to start 860 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: the week. It is a huge week. Yes, we will 861 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 2: get into Notre Dame versus Oh my gosh, for a second, 862 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: I spaced on Ohio State first Notre Dame. That's a 863 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: big spread as well. I believe that's next Monday night. 864 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 2: So next weekend you get Saturday to NFL, Sunday to NFL, 865 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 2: and one Monday college football in like the final really 866 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: great weekend of football before Championship weekend, the super. 867 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 3: Bowl, and then we're in the offseason. We'll be talking 868 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 3: to NBA and all that fun stuff. 869 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 2: All right, we're back tomorrow. 870 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 4: Talk to you