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Today. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: We're in Minneapolis, Minnesota, home of the Goopers, but we 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: don't play the Goofers tonight, but the Goopers on Saturday 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: night play the Tammis of Saint Thomas. That's over in 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Saint Paul in five hours, five hours. Boy, we got 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: a good show for you. Boys have done a great job. 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Chris Flika is going to join us twenty five after 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: the hour. If you've watched Big Noon Kickoff, you know 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: he'd as the bear Bets. The bear Bets is also 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: a podcast, and we'll get his picks on all of 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: this weekend's games, including the two ranked teams that play 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Friday Night one on Fox. In addition to that, I 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: think we have a really interesting discussion of coming on 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: if the customer is always right in professional sports or 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: collegiate sports whatever. I think Jason has honed in on 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: a really, really smart argument that I want to have 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: as a discussion. We'll do so upcoming in fifteen minutes. 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I want to start with another one. So I'm trying 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: to figure out why I'm not more fired up or 27 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't have the energy for these arguments in college football. 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: As the college football playoff rankings came out the other night, 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: and i think I've sort of figured it out, sort of, 30 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to relate it to I'm go an 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: relate to the UFC and something I've always thought about 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: the UFC and MMA and why it despite the fact 33 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: that it has a greater consistency of fan bases, you know, 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: like you're gonna have you put on UFC whatever number 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: they're up to, and the same people are gonna watch 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: every single time, and the big ones you'll draw in 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: some of the mainstream but the reason that it doesn't 38 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: generate the revenue and maybe the eyes of boxing at 39 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: least one of the reasons to me is one of 40 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the reasons that college football season though really good and 41 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: really talented, seems to lack the I don't know, the 42 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: social equity right where people aren't arguing talking about it 43 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: because they know they'll be a final conclusion, right they'll 44 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: be there'll be a tournament. So there's a little bit 45 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: of college basketball and there's a lot of UFC in it. 46 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Here's the argument. Okay, so I'm looking at all of 47 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: these teams, and right now, unlike previous years, now previous years, 48 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: if we get to week twelve of the college fotball season, 49 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that's we are, by the way, week twelve, and that 50 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: counts week zero. So seriously, we're in thirteen weeks. Week twelve, 51 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: we have nine teams, all of whom are in the 52 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: biggest conferences, and actually, if you really want to get 53 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: down to it, we have eleven team. Eleven teams in 54 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: only the biggest the Power for conferences, and Notre Dame 55 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: who have one loss or less like that's virtually unheard of. 56 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: So the first part to it is some of the 57 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: reason we don't have these unbeloe believable games and these 58 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: unbelievable arguments and these is because we still the best 59 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of the best on some level. Haven't all played each other. Right, 60 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Indiana still hasn't played Ohio State. A and M. You know, 61 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: A and M for example, is nine to zero on 62 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: the year, but they haven't yet played Texas. They don't 63 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: play Georgia. They don't play Alabama unless they play in 64 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. Right, Alabama has played Georgia. That's 65 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: why Georgia has one loss on the season. Outside of that, again, 66 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: you have all these one loss teams. So some of 67 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: it is that the season and the schedule is built 68 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: for the crescendo. Some of it is that with the 69 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: intent of or the belief that you can create greater parody, 70 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: there's less parody than ever. The schools that are winning, 71 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: by and large not all have spent the most money, 72 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's why they have so they have schedules that 73 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: are backloaded, and they spend more money. So there's fewer 74 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: and fewer upsets than there used to be. Those things 75 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I do belie to be true. But the last part 76 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: is think about when Oregon lost earlier this year to Indiana, 77 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: did anybody think Oregon's season was over? The answer is no, Right, 78 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: Ole miss lost to Georgia, Right, it would take a 79 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: colossal upset they only have two regular season games remaining. Okay, Florida, 80 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: who's already fired their coach upcoming this weekend and then 81 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: at Stark Vegas after a week off after Thanksgiving in 82 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: the Egg Bowl, and if they survive both of those 83 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: two games, they're gonna go to the College wall playoff. 84 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: And what was the it game? I guess the Georgia 85 00:05:49,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: game sort of. So here's the UFC argument. Mixed martial arts. Though, 86 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: you have some guys who are the best of the 87 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: best of the best, and by the account and not 88 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: my opinion, because my opinion honestly really doesn't matter, especially 89 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: in mixed martial arts, but by the opinion of many 90 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: the best mixed martial artists will have five, six, even 91 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: seven losses, you know, two or three easy because it's 92 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: not easy, because you can win a fight overall, but 93 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: get caught in a bad spot, get hold, get held, 94 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: and get tapped out. It happens more often than the 95 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: George Foreman knockout that made him heavyweight champion at forty 96 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: years old. It just does the reality of the UFC 97 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: is you don't get to duck people the way that 98 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: boxers get to duck people. There aren't the tomato cans 99 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: the way they're tomato cans for boxers. So you don't 100 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: have these dramatically inflated records that appear to be greater 101 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: than they are. But it does draw the attention of 102 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the mainstream fan. Like we can argue back and forth 103 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: all you want on how it's it's great to see 104 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the best play the best, but just like fans are 105 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: having it, gonna have a tough time like Oklahoma fans 106 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: if they lose this weekend. I've said this for a 107 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: long time, Like Brent Fetnables has turned this thing around. 108 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: They're way better. John Mattier hasn't been playing well since 109 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: he got hurt. Yet even if they lose this weekend 110 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: in Alabama, there's a chance, outside chance they lose one 111 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: more this year. Like a Missouri game, Missouri is really 112 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: good game. Missouri is playing for their College twelve playoff. 113 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: Live probably don't get it again. I think Oklahoma's better, 114 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: but there's a world in which they If Oklahoma turns 115 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: around and go and goes eight and four on the season, 116 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: and they have a home win against Michigan, a home 117 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: win against Auburn, that should be seen as a great year. 118 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: But because Oklahoma fans are like boxing fans. They're used 119 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: to their teams winning eleven and twelve and minimum ten games. 120 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Really hard to convince people. No, No, you had a 121 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: great year. You just played a tougher schedule than you've 122 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: ever played, right, that's my argument, my argument and buyer 123 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: maybe this is this is meaning to you because neck 124 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: you're as big or a bigger college football fan than 125 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I am. I think one of the reasons we, even 126 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: as hardcore college fell fans, but especially the mainstream fan, 127 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: we are gonna end up with very likely at most 128 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: one undefeated team, and it might be Ohio State, might 129 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: be Okay or Ohio State Indiana. One of those two 130 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: teams will probably end up undefeated, maybe nobody else does. 131 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: And then we're arguing over these two and three loss teams. 132 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: The regular season games don't matter as much because you 133 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: can drop one or even drop two and still survive. 134 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: And then it takes away from the perception of their greatness, 135 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: not the reality of it, the perception of how good 136 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: they are because they have two and three losses next 137 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: their name, even though they're playing a far more difficult 138 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: schedule than teams in the past played. Okay that's my argument. 139 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Does it make any sense? 140 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: I do think. I do think that it is along 141 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: the lines of what Lane Kiffin had previously said on 142 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: if we're looking at these teams ten and two teams, 143 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: nine to three teams maybe better than eleven and one teams. 144 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: And I think that his point is from the SEC 145 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: and the schedule that they play that he fails that 146 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: there's a lot more opportunities for losses. And I think 147 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: that that's why we actually have a committee to decipher 148 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: those things. It's why we look at non conference schedule. 149 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: But I do think that your point of do we 150 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: not look at say we'll just use Ole Miss for 151 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: an example of them being ten and two as not 152 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: being as elite because of those two blemishes, Yeah, I 153 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: think we do look at it that way. I think 154 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: we've actually always looked at it that way in college football, 155 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: and now it's more magnified. In fact, the undefeated team 156 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: was a lot of times looked at much more in 157 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: a nicer, better fashion than anybody with a loss. And 158 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: if you would even look at the college football playoff 159 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: rankings right now, Doug, which is the reason why we're 160 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: supposed to have this committee, I don't think that it's 161 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: any surprise that you have three unbeatens in the top 162 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: three and then you have eight and one, eight and one, 163 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: nine and one, nine and one, eight and one. So 164 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: they're just grouping everybody by losses, and when you have 165 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: a curved number with your loss, you are going to 166 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: look like you are inferior to the team that doesn't 167 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: have a loss or just has that one loss. 168 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think it's a part of human nature 169 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: that you and I are admitting, and I don't know 170 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: if everybody admits. Is that again, like this Oklahoma team, 171 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: if they're in the Big twelve, my expectations, right and 172 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: if Texas, what even if Texas was in the Big 173 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: twelve and they have one loss right there, eight and one, 174 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: with the one loss being the exact same loss to Texas, 175 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: it's viewed greater than the one with two losses. Now, 176 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: it just is. And it's one of the things that 177 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: we've done with boxing for a long times, Like, yeah, 178 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: we fought a bunch of tomato cans. Yeah, but he's 179 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: thirty three, and oh, it's like the at least thirty 180 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: three and oh, like yeah, but he fought he fought 181 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: like three guys that were missing an eye. One guy 182 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: was missing a hand, you know. I mean, think of 183 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Floyd mayweathery Floyd Mayweather. If you ask boxing people, no 184 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: one will say Floyd Mayweather's the greatest fighter of all time. 185 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: He's really really smart and he was really really smart 186 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: at the fight game. From this perspective, his last ten years, 187 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: he didn't fight anybody who had any chance of beating him. None. 188 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: Even when he thought fought Manny Pacio, he waited like 189 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: three years. And of course when he fought Pacy, how 190 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: he had the bad shoulder, but he waited out Pacio 191 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: till Pacquiao was out of his prime and was kind 192 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: of an old man and there's no way he could lose. 193 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: He didn't fight anybody that could beat him, and so 194 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: when you look at his record, yeah, he's undefeated, but 195 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean he kind of stopped fighting people and knew 196 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: how to win fights and used his brain for the 197 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: last ten years of his his ownership of whatever division. 198 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: Whereas you know, you go to the Julio Cesar Chavez, 199 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: like how many fights do you fight? 200 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: Right? 201 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: But he's you know, the layman would never say that 202 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: guy is the greatest fighter ever because he's got like 203 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: six seven los. It's like, yeah, he fought like one 204 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: hundred times and he fought a bear once. That was hungry. 205 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I just Jason and I were talking today was I 206 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: was like, it's a good college for all weekend. Matter 207 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: of fact, it's a great college for all weekend. You 208 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: got a bunch of ranked teams, you got some you 209 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: got a big game of the SEC, you got Iowa 210 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: SC's interesting. I'm interested in a bunch of these things. 211 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: But there's no umph to it. We're in November, this 212 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: is college football's time, and it's like, yeah, it doesn't 213 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: really matter they lose. The good teams are still gonna 214 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: play in the playoff anyway. And it really has and 215 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: then the numbers change and really has taken away from 216 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: the elite teams because so many of them have a loss. 217 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Now going to sustain two, gonna stain three losses because 218 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: all the good teams are now in you know, one 219 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: of two leagues. 220 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Really and not to focus on ole Miss, but the 221 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: one part where I will differentiate from you is to 222 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: your point of ole Miss making the postseason with maybe 223 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: two losses on their schedule. If they end up losing, 224 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: like I would say that loss at Georgia and what 225 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: a magnificent game it was. If they win that game, 226 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: now we're talking about why is there a changing of 227 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: the guard in the Ole Miss. Ole Miss knocked off Georgia. 228 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: Can they do the same if they would face Alabama 229 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: on the championship game. It's Lane Kiffen, It's all of that. 230 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: I think that there would be a lot more hype 231 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: about that. But I think it just changed our conversation 232 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: about Ole Miss. So then when they go and beat Oklahoma, 233 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: that's a really, really big win. But maybe we didn't 234 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: look at it as as big of a win because 235 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: they were coming off of the loss from the previous week. 236 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: So maybe we unfortunately Burial Miss because we just pushed 237 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: them aside. I'm not saying that we did, but just 238 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: that one blemish now in their in their lost column. 239 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: But that game against Oklahoma was very, very big for them, 240 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: and so now Ole Miss maybe just has this different look. 241 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: I think it's the point of if they lose, we 242 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: have to look at their other games differently. Oregon is 243 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: a great example of this past weekend of when they 244 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: just go and are able to pull off that crazy 245 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: win against Iowa, it would have been a lot different 246 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: if Oregon was unbeaten in that scenario, right, like, all 247 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden, here's an unbeaten squad and we're like, man, 248 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: they were taken to the task, just like Indiana was 249 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: to Penn State. But I would almost say what India, 250 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: what Oregon accomplished, was much bigger than what Indiana accomplished 251 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: this past weekend. But I think Iowa, yeah absolutely. 252 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, hell yeah, hell yes. 253 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: But we look at that Indiana comeback and the Gus 254 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: Johnson call and say that was was amazing, Like Oregon's 255 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: accomplishments to win that game were much bigger than what 256 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: Indiana umplished. 257 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: You and I completely agree, But because they have a 258 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: loss next to their name, you're like, okay. And and 259 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: I would also say, it's because it's Iowa. And no 260 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: matter what, people are always going to doubt Iowa because 261 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: they think Iowa couldn't score, and in that particular game 262 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: they couldn't. It was a great football game, a great 263 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: football game. It's like it's like I think I said 264 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: that on group text. Not all ten seven games are 265 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: bad games. Some ten seven games. The one on Thursday 266 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: Night Football last week was the Iowa. The Iowa game 267 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: was not was just a well played, not great offensive, 268 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: hard hitting. It was a good football game, and then 269 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Oregon really, on one pass completed late, ends up kicking 270 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: a field goal to win it. 271 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: I know it's ifs and butts, but if Iowa had 272 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: won that game, and if they were to win on 273 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: Saturday against usc in one out, if they won their 274 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: final game, they would be in the playoff. Why are 275 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: you guys doing this to me? Just? I know, I know, 276 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: but but I guess Sam, do you? 277 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: I understand you look at it through a lens of 278 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: an Iowa fan, But is what we're saying making sense? 279 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's the only reason. Like somebody 280 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: tweeted at us too many stoppages. It's true, it's a 281 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: harder to watch game because there's so many more plays 282 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of stoppages, but that's more 283 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: in stadium than anything else. In stadium, stoppages are just death, 284 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: it's really really. 285 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: They've done a better job though with rule I mean, 286 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: adding the two minute warning I'm not a fan of, 287 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: but they've done a better job in changing rules to 288 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: try to make things go faster. 289 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and the clock running now as opposed to 290 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: stopping with every incomplete pass is better. Otherwise you were 291 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: getting four and a half hour games. It was interminably. Yeah, 292 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about more of perception, lead up to games, 293 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: reaction to games. It's just changed because of look, they're 294 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: all professionals now, everybody bets on them now. A lot 295 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: of things have changed, but one of the major parts 296 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: have changed. We don't we rarely will end with no 297 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: losses or one losses and every game really really matters. 298 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Whereas the teams with no losses, they can lose the 299 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: game or maybe two over the last month of the season 300 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: and still make the college ball play and we never 301 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: had that before. 302 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm okay with that, though, I'm okay with the relative 303 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: lack of drama right now. I think, you know we 304 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: I think that if you take care of business in 305 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: the first half of the season and you're undefeated, and 306 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: you lose a game or two in November, I still 307 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: think that that's, you know, your resume shoul hold up. 308 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: I have argued that, and it's up to the fan. 309 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: It's maybe their responsibility, but there are games on the 310 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: schedule that you don't realize are important games. I remember 311 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: last year, I think it was Illinois and Nebraska. Maybe 312 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: it was the year before they played a Friday night game, 313 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: maybe late September, early October, but they were both had 314 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: really good records at that time. I think it was 315 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: last season and that essentially could have been a college 316 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: football playoff elimination game for whoever wins that contest. And 317 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 2: I think that's we almost have to change our thinking 318 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: towards this and how we're looking at these because there 319 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: are more games. There's no doubt there are more games 320 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: that are meaningful. They may not mean as much, but 321 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: there are more games that are meaningful. With this current 322 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: format in college football, there. 323 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Are more games that meaningful and there and there are 324 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: more games that are meaningful, but their final score is not. 325 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: It's a it's just a different way of doing something 326 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: which we've all been fans of since, like birth right, 327 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: and it's different to cheer for it. It's like, wait, 328 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: what matters? What doesn't matter? It's very confusing and and Sam, 329 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: to your point, you're right, the drama is kind of cooked, 330 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: baked in and the last couple weeks are going to 331 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: be great, But that's not what college football has always been. 332 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: That's the big. 333 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Thing I've always enjoyed. 334 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I've always I've always been 335 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: a proponent of allowing teams to lose a game or two. 336 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: No, no, no, listen again, you're right. I mean the truth 337 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: is that now we're allowing coaches to have their teams evolve. Right, 338 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: that's you should be well, Doug. 339 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: Look at Iowa losing at Iowa State early on by 340 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: a field goal and then losing by five really seven 341 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: to Indiana, and then they had a chance, if they 342 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: had beaten organ to put themselves back in the conversation, 343 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: and that grace, I think is a good thing to 344 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: be allowed. 345 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just telling you that's never how college 346 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: football was. 347 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: I know, I know I was. 348 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: Every week it matters, and you lose one, you're like, 349 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, we may be done. You lose too, 350 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: it's over. Now. It's like you lose two, Like I 351 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: don't lose a third, But it all depends on who 352 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: that third is too, and what everybody else does. 353 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I'm definitely. I don't think Iowa was 354 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: in the conversation. But I look at a team like Vanderbilt, 355 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: like there I have two losses, Like the teams that 356 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 4: are kind of right on the you know, right on 357 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: the edge of making the playoff. They're the ones that 358 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 4: have the best plots going on right now, like the 359 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: greatest drama. 360 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 361 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 362 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 363 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio and 364 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: let's welcome in. He's Chris FeliCa, the Bare Bets of 365 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: the podcast. You can see it on Fox Sports One. 366 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: You can also see him on Big Newton Kickoff. You 367 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: can download that where if you want to download podcast. 368 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Your picks for the weekend. At college football, we got 369 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: ranked teams on a Friday one on Fox The Gophers. 370 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: The Gophers are going to try and row that boat 371 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: in Oregon the Ducks. This is kind of that classic 372 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: sandwich game, right they survive Iowa. They got USC at 373 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: home next week and the Gophers come in. Minnesota's Golden 374 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: Gophers have won three of their last four. They did 375 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: get stomped by Iowa. That does happen on the road. 376 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: It's not about winning, it's about keeping it close and 377 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: covering right The Ducks are twenty five and a half 378 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: point favorites. The total is forty four and a half. 379 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Who do you like, Fleaks. 380 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 3: It certainly feels like a game that under what would 381 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: be that would be right, the right way to go. 382 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: I know in Minnesota is a side that you might 383 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: want to look at as well. I feel better about 384 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: under forty four and a half. This feels like a 385 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: game that Oregon defensively will kind of dominate. Minnesota has 386 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: really struggled offensively away from home this year, and you 387 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: kind of figure when the sheriff away with the Oregon 388 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: with the injuries that they have wide receiver to Decroy 389 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 3: Moore and their tight end as well a lot of running, 390 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: a lot of running clock. The reason I don't want 391 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: to take Minnesota is that this could easily be like 392 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: a like like like a twenty seven nothing type game, 393 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: and then Minnesota doesn't cover under forty four and a 394 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: half for me, Like you said, the wee wee can 395 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: head out from the big game with sc coming in. 396 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go also tonight not on our network instead, 397 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: it's it's on ESPN if anybody can see it. Clemson 398 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: is a two and a half point dog. At at Louisville. 399 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: I mean this, if you would have told me that 400 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: this is these were the records this but Louisville who 401 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: was playing for an a SC championship. Then they lose 402 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: at home to Cal in overtime. Now they got to 403 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: bounce back the week before they go down to SMU 404 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: and take on Clemson home again, Clemson to a half 405 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: point dog total stick two and a half. 406 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have never thought that before the year 407 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: that Clemson would have been a dog here. Louisville without 408 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: Isaac Brown I think is a risky proposition. I know 409 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: the backup isn't a bad player, but the fact that 410 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: Clemson has actually put up a bunch of points against Duke, 411 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: that bounced back that did beat Florida State last week, 412 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: it shows me that they've still got some fight. And 413 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: this is one of those games ranked opponent. It's a 414 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: chance for Clemson to maybe salvage a little something from 415 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: their season. Tiger's getting two and a half here, typically 416 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: have had the last year at Death Valley, Louisville Woden 417 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: there and absolutely we're on the ball down their throat. 418 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: Like I said, no, Isaac Brown might be a different 419 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: story there I'd take Clemson plus the points. 420 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: There Stet Gottlieb show, He're on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 421 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: let's get to Saturday, where we have a huge lineup 422 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: of ranked teams, some of them on the road. Let's 423 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: start with Michigan. Okay, the classic home dog. Northwestern's a 424 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: twelve and a half point dog, and the Wolverines still 425 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: have hope of getting the College football playoff totals forty 426 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: one and a half. 427 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm on my way actually the Wrickley 428 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: Field right now for begining kickoff, on my way to 429 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 3: the airport to get to Wrickley Field, I should say 430 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: for Ben doom kickoff. Every part of me wants to 431 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: take Northwestern plus the points here, but there's still that 432 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 3: little bit of hesitation because ultimately, I'm not sure like 433 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: this can be twenty four to ten Michigan and Northwestern 434 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: doesn't get the cover. I know typically in the Northwestern 435 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: has struggled with teams that can have athleticism on the 436 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: outside and give up some big plays, and Michigan really 437 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: isn't that It feels like an underplay. I think the 438 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: Northwestern team total would be an even better way to 439 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: so look at this because I do think that after 440 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of a hiccup, Lake Marcandell and that 441 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: Michigan defense will come to play. So I'd be looking 442 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: towards a Northwestern team total under. If you had to 443 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: pick aside one way or another, I guess I'd ultimately 444 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: lean Northwestern. But a buyer beware. 445 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: Okay, buyer beware. I got a couple more to ask 446 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: you about. Oklahoma take it on Alabama. Huge game for 447 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: both teams, sooners, especially because the loss looks like it's 448 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: getting closer to knocking them out of the College Fall playoff. 449 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: They're five and a half point dog at Bama. The 450 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: totals forty five and a half, seen as a fairly 451 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: low scoring game. 452 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: It's amazing because every week it seems like we keep 453 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: asking ourselves the question of Ken's Alabama continually get up 454 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: for all of these ranked games and these big games 455 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: that they have. But if you look at Kaitlin de 456 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: boor like his coaching record or is a power fore 457 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: head coach, it's kind of just been there. He's seventeen 458 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: and two against top ten against rank teams, rather games 459 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: to sign up by a touchdown unless he's sixteen and four, 460 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: so it will. We'll talk with Joe Schwartz my coast 461 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: of Barbitz earlier and he really likinged it to like. 462 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: What Alabama has done this year has been a lot 463 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: like that twenty twenty three Washington team that got to 464 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: the national championship game where every week they found themselves 465 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: in a close game and wind up pulling it out. 466 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: And give Alabama a ton of credit for that. A 467 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: lot of people like Oklahoma this week. I see why 468 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: the number has come down quite a bit. It's moved 469 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: off of that six. So I don't know if I 470 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: could take five and a half right now, because six 471 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: and such a up an important number. I will say this, 472 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: if you do like Oklahoma, maybe you want to maybe 473 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: take a chance on them to make the college football playoff. 474 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: I think the money line in this game is like 475 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: plus one ninety or so. The money line I knowe 476 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: you to make the playoff is like plus two thirty 477 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: five or so. And the reason I say that is 478 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: if they win here, they're gonna have the massive win 479 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: at Alabama, and then they have Missouri and LSU both 480 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: in Norman to finish the season. In those games now 481 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: look like much easier propositions with Missouri not having Bobabula 482 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: and with LSU being a dumpster fire. So in chance, 483 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: with a lot of Oklahoma finished ten to two, if 484 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: they can get out of a fee town with the. 485 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Win, I would take it on USC. We saw Iowa 486 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: as a heartbreaker to Oregon at home. Now they travel 487 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: to sc SC the week before they play Oregon is 488 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: a six and a half point favorite. Totals forty eight 489 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: a half. 490 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: Then the question I have about this, and again, people 491 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: I think like Iowa, they think they can ugly this 492 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: game up. But my question and my basic simple handicap 493 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: here is what makes you think that this game is 494 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: going to go any differently scriptlized than the game with 495 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: Michigan did a couple of weeks back at Teliseum. It's 496 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 3: a worse offense than Michigan's. Maybe the defense is a 497 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: little bit better, maybe the offensive line is a little 498 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: bit better. But the USC, I think has the advance 499 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: on the perimeter. I think under a touchdown now I'd 500 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: be gladly laying the points here. With that, say against 501 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: an Iowa team that look, we've seen them bounce back 502 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: before after losing Indiana. They bounce back after after losing 503 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: the other games they lost it slipping in my mind 504 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 3: right now, who the heck else? Iowa State as well, 505 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: Like they bounced back from these losses before, but I 506 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: think this is going to be a much sass, a 507 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: much different team at the Colisee. And then they are 508 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: on the. 509 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Road, Texas taking on in Georgia. Horns need to win 510 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: this game. They're six and a half point dog in 511 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Athens totals forty nine and a half. 512 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: Well, well, we know Kirby has never lost a game 513 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: at home to a top ten team. We know Sark 514 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: has only pulled one upset as an head coach of Texas. 515 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: That was the game Alabama a couple of years ago. 516 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: I like the long Horns plus the six and a 517 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: half here was obviously the best game of the year 518 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: that Georgia played last week blowing out Mississippi State in Starkville. 519 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: But at the same time, here you look at Texas. 520 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: They are as healthy as they've been now on the 521 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, certainly at the safety position. 522 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: They're running backs are in a much better position now 523 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: than they were a couple of weeks ago. Much healthier. 524 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: Just seemed to lead show that burst in practice. But 525 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: Texas a team that I think have they beat either 526 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: Georgia or A and M. At the end of the year, 527 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: they're going to have an argument to make the college 528 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: football Playoff. But I think I get the other side 529 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: of it too, where people can say, Okay, well, before this, 530 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: you beat Vanderbilt a home, big deal, You're supposed to 531 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: be Vandy. You get blown out at the Swamp, you 532 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: beat Oklahoma with an injured John Mattier, and you very 533 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: easily could have lost on the road. In Mississippi State 534 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: and Kentucky, they want a couple of overtime games. So I 535 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: get the whole buyer beware here with Texas, But I 536 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: think grabbing six and a half here and against a 537 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: Georgia team which prior to last week had to really 538 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: toll it at anyone, I think taking the horns and 539 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: the points here is the play. 540 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: S Doug Gottlie Show on Fox Sports Tray. That's Chris Filica. 541 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: Check out the Bear Bets podcast. Check them out a 542 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: big new cookoff. It's at Wrigley Field this week. Uh 543 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: hopefully he gets no delays with his flights, but if so, 544 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because you got him and all his 545 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: info on Fox Sports Radio. Feliks, you're the best safe 546 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: travels and thanks for joining us. 547 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: Take care dog, have a great week you two. 548 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: For forty years, Tyrek has been helping customers by the 549 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: right tires for how, what and where they drive back 550 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: ship fast and free and back by free road desk 551 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: protection with convenience slation options like mobile tire Slation tyraq 552 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: dot com. It's the way tire buying should be. Now 553 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: time for our Tyrak play Theday care of ninety five 554 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: point seven the game and the Warriors Radio Network. 555 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 6: There's Peyton again, back to Curry in the left corner. 556 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: Three ball is good. 557 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 6: GP two kept that alive with two offensive rebounds and 558 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: it's one ten to one on one Warriors. Moody comes back, 559 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 6: gets the inbound and that is that a huge win 560 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: for the Golden State Warriors. A final kind of academic. 561 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 6: They sealed the game about a minute ago, but five 562 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 6: to one twenty. 563 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: Is your final. 564 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: That's our Tyrack play of the day. Coming up with 565 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: the Doug Gotleep Show, one of the best rivalries in 566 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. We'll draft him next. 567 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug 568 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 5: Gottlieb show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 569 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: S Doug Gottleep Show, Fox Sports Radio. Be sure check 570 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: out our new YouTube channel. Just search Dougtlip Show on YouTube. 571 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: Begin this Doug Gottleep Show. Hit the subscribe button, don't 572 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: just stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. 573 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: If you agree with the takes, you hate them, does matter? 574 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: Check out the brand new channel on YouTube. Again, just 575 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe. Let's get to Dan 576 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Byer with a game. 577 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 578 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: Hey there, Daddy, what you got up the Doug? 579 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: The game today is. 580 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: I feel a draft? 581 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: All right? The draft order is Sam first, I'll pick second, 582 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: Doug your third, then Jason fourth and fifth, and we 583 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: swing it back in reverse order as we draft the 584 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: best rivalries in NFL history. Another rivalry uniform tonight. Jets 585 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: and Patriots had a rivalry for a while. They will 586 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: face off in their AFC showdown this evening. Sam, you 587 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: are on the clock for best rivalries in NFL history 588 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: with the number one overall pick. 589 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I'll take a rival in the rivalry draft. 590 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: Close to my heart and a very old rivalry in 591 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: the NFL. Packers Bears, Pack in the NFL. Actually, there you. 592 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: Go, pack the oldest Bears is off the board. I 593 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: didn't love this rivalry, but I respected the rivalry Steelers 594 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: Ravens for a long time, good decade. It's just it 595 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: was peak NFL with those two teams. So I'll take 596 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: Steelers Ravens at number two. Doug your third. 597 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: So many choices here, so many choices. Yeah, I'm gonna 598 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: go with the Jaguars. Just kidding, just kidding, Cowboys and 599 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: their rivals with everybody, I'm gonna go Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys 600 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: and choice. But look, Cowboys Redskins in the eighties and 601 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: nineties was probably better. 602 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 7: Wait, let's gonna sam this up here. What are we doing? 603 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: But but again, Cowboys Eagles. The success of the Eagles, 604 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: despite the glamour of the Cowboys, the classic rivalry of 605 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: two teams play each other twice a year every year. 606 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: One is like the second city. Just the whole thing works. 607 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys. That's my pick. 608 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 7: Doug tried to sam my fourth pick up, Could we 609 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 7: flag that. 610 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: All? 611 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: I've got my own pick because I was saving that rivalry. 612 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: I even pulled audio to play for Cowboys Eagles, and 613 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: now I can't even use it. I feel like I'm. 614 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Do you think it was too early? 615 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: I thought it was too early because I thought i'd 616 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: for surely get it in the second round, but apparently not. 617 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 7: I call a foul on samming it up, salmon it up, 618 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 7: two free throws. So, just to go in Doug's face 619 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 7: since he already ruined this, it is the Cowboys versus 620 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 7: the Redskins, and you're like, no, they're called the Commanders. Now, 621 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 7: screw you. We all remember Cowboys, Redskins. That's all I 622 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 7: care about. Cowboys Redskins at four. And just to rub 623 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 7: it in Doug's face even more with an even bigger Cowboys, 624 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 7: it's the forty nine ers. Cowboys forty nine ers. In 625 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 7: the nineties, it reached its peak. But this goes back 626 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 7: to the seventies. Gentlemen's seventies. 627 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: All right, Doug, you're back on the clock. 628 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: There's some new rivalries. They're good. I'm gonna go h 629 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: here's an old one from when we were when we 630 00:33:53,200 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: were kids, the Jets and the Dolphins. The Jets and 631 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. That was a great rivalry back in the day. 632 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Kat currently now gets and the Dolphins. 633 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: All right, I am up at number seven. A lot 634 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: of good choices here, and I think, gosh, I'm gonna 635 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: go with the Falcons and Saints. They're not slashy teams. 636 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: No, it's the best football rival in the South. 637 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. They hate each other. They cannot stand each other. 638 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 639 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: So Falcons and Saints. I think, if you're not familiar 640 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: with it, what are the best rivalries that we've got 641 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: in the NFL? 642 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 7: Quick story about that, Quick story about that. For whatever reason, 643 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 7: the Falcons loved the Jim Rome show back in the day, 644 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 7: and they sent us Falcons gear In nineteen ninety nine 645 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 7: or two thousand. I went down to Cues and Brentwood. 646 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 7: I'm sure Dan's very familiar shoes and Brentwood on a Sunday, 647 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 7: just wearing my Falcons gar, not even knowing. Harry Connock 648 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 7: Junior was at the bar and he kept giving me 649 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 7: death stairs and I kept looking at my buddy. I'm like, 650 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 7: why is Harry Connick Junior staring at me? What's going 651 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 7: going on here? Saints were playing the Falcons that day. 652 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 7: I thought I was showing up and trying to talk 653 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 7: some trash to him with my T shirt. 654 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: Trying to be that guy. 655 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: All right, if I could just whisper your name, love, 656 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: Harry Conny Junter. All right, guys, this, uh, they don't 657 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 4: play every year, and the San Francisco forty nine Ers 658 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: are really not in San Francisco anymore, and the Oakland 659 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 4: Raiders are in Vegas. But I'm gonna take the Niners 660 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: and the Raiders because they have those two fan bases 661 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: do not like. 662 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: Each other, especially in the parking lots. 663 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 5: Yes, ext time, game This is game time on The 664 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 5: Dug Gottlieb Show. 665 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: Coming up next. Don't call it a throwback Thursday? What 666 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: year is it? Find out in The Dug Gottlieb Show