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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listen

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Speaker 2: your mail My name is Robert Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joe McCormick. And it is Monday, the day

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Speaker 3: to send is fine. Of course, we always appreciate feedback

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Speaker 3: to recent episodes, especially if you have something interesting to

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Speaker 3: add to a topic we've already talked about. One example

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Speaker 3: of that would be we recently did a couple of

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Speaker 3: episodes that were called Oil over Troubled Water that were

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Speaker 3: about the history of beliefs and scientific investigation of what

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Speaker 3: happens when you pour oil on top of water, especially

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Speaker 3: the idea that pouring oil on water can still the waves.

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Speaker 3: There are folk tales of this going way way back

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Speaker 3: hundreds of years, and then it turned out in the

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Speaker 3: eighteenth century Benjamin Franklin did experiments on this very subject.

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Speaker 3: He ended up walking around the world with a hollow

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Speaker 3: cane that was full of olive oil that he would

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Speaker 3: like pour in people's ponds to show them how the

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Speaker 3: oil would spread out over the surface.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like a James Bond cane with a

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Speaker 2: little bit of oil in it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Stephan writes in to add to this subject, Stephan says,

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Speaker 3: thank you for your inspiring episodes about oil and water.

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Speaker 3: As a chemist, I am particularly interested in everything concerning

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Speaker 3: liquids and surfaces, no matter if they are muddy or oily.

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Speaker 3: With water and a drop of oil, just regular stuff

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Speaker 3: from the kitchen shelf, no special oil is needed. You

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Speaker 3: can demonstrate the principle of a jet propulsion drive. It's

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Speaker 3: a funny experiment, especially suitable for children. All you need

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Speaker 3: is a bowl of water, not too big, even a

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Speaker 3: in the shape of a two D boat. Now cut

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Speaker 3: the boat's silhouette. Make a hole in the shape of

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Speaker 3: an old fashioned key hole. So Stefan explains a spoiler alert,

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Speaker 3: I did this so, Yeah, you have kind of like

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Speaker 3: a house shape and elongated house shape. It's like a

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Speaker 3: the back of the boat. You have this key hole

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Speaker 3: cutout shape creates a circular hole and then a funnel

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Speaker 3: shape leading away from it, leading out into the back

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Speaker 3: of the water. Stephan attached to drawing for us, But

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Speaker 3: that doesn't help you, the listener out there. But Stephan says,

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Speaker 3: put this two dimensional boat flat on the surface of

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Speaker 3: the water in your bowl slowly because you'll need a

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Speaker 3: calm surface, and let a drop of oil fall into

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Speaker 3: the circular part of the key hole shaped cut off.

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Speaker 3: The oil will immediately spread out on the surface of

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Speaker 3: the water, thereby pushing the small boat a little bit forward.

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Speaker 3: Have a try. Thanks again for your work and for

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Speaker 3: many greetings to the entire Stuff team. Stephan, well, I

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Speaker 3: can report I, just before we recorded, tried this experiment

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Speaker 3: though it took a couple of tries for some reason,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly why. The first time I tried it,

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Speaker 3: I did it in a plate with a full of water.

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Speaker 3: first time it was a complete failure. The second time

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Speaker 3: first one got soaked through. But I dropped the oil

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Speaker 3: it wants to spread out continuing across the water, and

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Speaker 2: Out the back. Oh, very cool.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if the difference, because it did work the

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Speaker 2: Well, that is neat. We don't often get to conduct

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Speaker 2: science experiments based on listener mail, so this this was fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we read about them a lot, don't get to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes we shouldn't. Definitely should not do them, because

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Speaker 2: us from Levi. Levi says, Hello, Joe and Rob. I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to send you both a quick email to

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Speaker 2: say thank you from the bottom of my heart for

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Speaker 2: your dedication to what you do. The shows you produce

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Speaker 2: are thoughtful and well crafted and really unlike anything else

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Speaker 2: out there. Please also pass my thanks onto the engineer

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Speaker 2: and others who work so hard to make the podcast happen.

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Speaker 2: I've been listening since twenty fifteen when I discovered your

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Speaker 2: episode about Earth being the planet of fire, and I

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Speaker 2: was hooked. Your show was a welcome bright spot through

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Speaker 2: a really awful period in life, and you have both

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Speaker 2: become familiar comforts. I'm sure you are inundated with quote

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Speaker 2: unquote helpful suggestions for topics. Well, they're always helpful, but

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Speaker 2: I had the notion the other day while playing music

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Speaker 2: that electric guitars could potentially be an interesting deep dive

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Speaker 2: all the science and innovation behind creating them, but also

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Speaker 2: the utter chaos and weirdness of effect pedals and the

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Speaker 2: endless array of sounds possible with them. Feel free to

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Speaker 2: file this away in the eye roll, Ben if you'd like.

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Speaker 2: Sincere best wishes and warm regards. Levi.

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, first of all, thank you very much for

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Speaker 3: the kind words, LEVI. Also, I would say, you know,

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Speaker 3: I have a mixed reaction to this, because on one hand,

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Speaker 3: I think an Invention episode on electric guitars and effects

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Speaker 3: pedals would be a wonderful idea, though I ended up

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Speaker 3: having a kind of curious reaction the more I thought

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Speaker 3: about doing this on the show, and then I kind

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Speaker 3: of became more interested in my reaction than in the

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 3: So the electric guitar is a topic that I have

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Speaker 3: a hunch I would have a frustrating time preparing an

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Speaker 3: already know a good bit about. But I feel like

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Speaker 3: the knowledge I have is not the right kind of knowledge.

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Speaker 3: So I play electric guitar, and I have a lot

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Speaker 3: this is the position where it actually makes it harder

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Speaker 3: nothing at all, if you were totally unfamiliar, because I

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Speaker 3: personal familiarity, and it creates a feeling that one should

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Speaker 3: have lots more to say and lots more to share.

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Speaker 3: But then if you start trying to say those things,

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Speaker 3: it feels like you have to say it turns out

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Speaker 3: ultimately maybe they're not very insightful or not very generally interesting.

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Speaker 3: I think topics like this lend themselves to an illusion

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Speaker 3: you're recording a podcast, you know that's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: interesting for other people. Rob does that make any sense?

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Speaker 3: And have you ever had this experience when making the show?

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Speaker 2: I would say maybe sometimes, not often, but sometimes I

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Speaker 2: feel like this within a weird house selection, Like there

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Speaker 2: in my head before. And sometimes it's just part of

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're talking about. With Weird House,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like if I'm if I'm going to try

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Speaker 2: As far as electric guitars specifically goes as a topic

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Speaker 2: actually how they function. So we could do an episode

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Speaker 3: so thank you again, Levi for suggesting this topic. I

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Speaker 2: Thanks Christopher Well. First of all, this year we did

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Speaker 3: back to the children's story Bunicula. Is this about a

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Speaker 3: vampire rabbit that eats vegetables?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I didn't know anything about this till

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Speaker 2: I noticed our coworker, Laren Vogelbaum, wearing a T shirt

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Speaker 2: that had this rabbit and this slogan or this franchise

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Speaker 2: title on it. I'd never heard of it.

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Speaker 3: The wiki says Binicula is the titular character, a harmless

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Speaker 3: rabbit with unusual eating habits and minor vampiric qualities. All right,

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Speaker 3: fair enough, But Lee's email goes on A second thought

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Speaker 3: had me wondering if the tomatoes were not so much

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Speaker 3: the primary food of the creature but bait to attract

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Speaker 3: flies all the like. Just a thought, Hey, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: an idea.

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Speaker 2: There we go, there we go. Of course, this is

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Speaker 2: a pretty big frog er Toe you might be going

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Speaker 2: after rats and mice, which you know, it still makes

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Speaker 2: still stands. Put some rotten tomatoes out there and get

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Speaker 2: the rodents in and then his lordship can feased.

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Speaker 3: Rats and mice. I mean that's that's like finger foods

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Speaker 3: that it's going after, like goats and donkeys and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that we see anything like that in the film.

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Speaker 3: No, but sorry. Even just this line about attraction flies

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Speaker 3: just briefly sent me into a rage because we I

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Speaker 3: bought some fresh fruit earlier this week and we've had

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Speaker 3: it sitting out on the counter as we've been eating

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Speaker 3: through it. But now it's start. The fruit flies have attacked.

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Speaker 2: Time to bust out the vinegar and the dish up.

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Speaker 3: Does that work for you? I've had it work a

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Speaker 3: little bit occasionally, but overall it's a bust for me.

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Speaker 2: I've had it work very well for me if I

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Speaker 2: but but two things. I have to buy the specialized

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Speaker 2: little container that doesn't tip over, that looks like a

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Speaker 2: little fruit or something that has been surprising helpful. And

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Speaker 2: I have I look up a recipe and I'd be

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Speaker 2: very I try to be very precise in how I'm

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Speaker 2: doing it, because where when I haven't had any luck

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Speaker 2: with it. Is when I thought I could just sort

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Speaker 2: of throw it together.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, I think I have tried to throw it

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Speaker 3: together and that that didn't work. So maybe maybe i'll

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Speaker 3: I'll stick to the recipe and see.

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Speaker 2: If it works.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, sorry. To finish out Lee's email, Li says

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Speaker 3: about the Maze overall a fun watch and would recommend

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Speaker 3: That's very generous of you, Lee, But Lee also says,

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Speaker 3: I watched Invaders from Mars upon your recommendation. I found

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Speaker 3: it to be pretty cool film as well. Wow those costumes, Yes,

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Speaker 3: there are some really stunning, super weird costumes in that.

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Speaker 3: Li says, love the podcast regards.

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Speaker 2: All right, and here's one final one. This one comes

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Speaker 2: to is from Kenny. Kenny says, Hi, Rob, Joe, and

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Speaker 2: JJ I would love for you to consider Star Trek

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Speaker 2: to the Wrath of Khan for weird house. First off,

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Speaker 2: it's my favorite Kirk era movie. I assume that's Trek movies,

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Speaker 2: but it could be just Kirk Era movies in general.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a highly regarded film, no joking.

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Speaker 2: It's a proper swashbuckling yarn filled to the brim with

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Speaker 2: the sort of ponderous yet thrilling naval action you might

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Speaker 2: find in Master and Commander or Hornblower. It has William Shatner,

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Speaker 2: somehow playing second fiddle in the scenery chewing department to

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Speaker 2: Ricardo Montaban's gloriously mad khn Noonan Singh, a bare chested

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Speaker 2: moby Dick quoting genetically enhanced superhuman on a quest for vengeance.

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Speaker 2: It has a wonderful score by none other than James Horner.

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Speaker 2: It has brilliant practical effects and an ill judged immersion

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Speaker 2: breaking CGI sequence. It has a hero and antagonist who

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Speaker 2: not only failed to have a punch up at the

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Speaker 2: end of the movie, but are never even present in

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Speaker 2: the same room. It's a brilliant story of revenge and

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Speaker 2: loss of unwei than the rediscovery of one's calling. This

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Speaker 2: is the original Star Trek cast at their best, as

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Speaker 2: director Nicholas Meyer crafted a follow up to the terminally

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Speaker 2: slow paced motion picture Ak Star Trek, the motion picture

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Speaker 2: in the first example of the even numbered Trek movies

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Speaker 2: being better. Keep up the amazing work.

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Speaker 3: Kenny, Oh yeah, Kenny, Well, I gotta gotta agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a big fan of Wrath of Khan it's

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Speaker 3: it's super solid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like even if you're not a big big fan

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Speaker 2: of like Kirk Era Trek, I mean, it's wrap to

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Speaker 2: con it's it's the it's the best of those movies

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Speaker 2: by far. I think.

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Speaker 3: I said when we were covering uh, what, oh, what's

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Speaker 3: the cult melting movie? The melting movie train, Well, we

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Speaker 3: were talking about that and I was saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: of course William Shatner can be a total hand, but

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Speaker 3: sometimes he's quite good. And the example I gave was

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Speaker 3: the the Nicholas Meyer star Trek movies. I think he's

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Speaker 3: totally good in those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, strong cast. I mean you get the traditional cast,

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Speaker 2: but then you have you have some great players in

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Speaker 2: it as well, especially Ricardo Montmt.

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Speaker 3: Only change I would have introduced is have uh, have

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Speaker 3: con quote Moby Dick even more. Do the whole monologues

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Speaker 3: about like it was looking in a mirror and seeing

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Speaker 3: steam rising off of his head in the summer, and

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Speaker 3: about the like the blast out of the blowhole, and

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Speaker 3: then do the chapter about the guy cutting out the

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Speaker 3: skin of the whales penis and turning into a coat

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the extended director's cut.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's got to do it for today.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're going to go and close up

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Speaker 2: the mail bag then, but hey, we'd love to hear

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