1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones Cowboys cooo joining us for the Stephen Jones 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show here on the Fan, and a good afternoon, sir. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing good, guys, just as you said, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: looking forward to another big game here this weekend, Yes, sir. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: And there's been lots of big ones between these teams 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: over the last what is it thirteen years or so, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: some incredible moments. What's it gonna take to get the 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: best of Russell Wilson and the Seahawks this time around? Well, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that you ever get the best of 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, but we certainly want to beat him. I'm 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: sure he's gonna make his plays and you know and 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: be you know, the special quarterback that he is. But uh, 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, we just got to make more plays than 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: he makes. And uh no, Coach Nolan's got a good 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: game plan put in, you know for these guys, and 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, they're explosive, They've got explosive receivers, they you know, 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: they do everything well. And then defensively, they've you know, 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: they always have been strong on defense. So we've got 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: our work cut out for us. But at the same time, 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: we feel like we've got our share of playmakers that 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: we make some big plays too, and hopefully come come 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: out of there with a win when it's all said 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and done. Now obviously, Stephen, Uh, you know, sports with 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: Corona is not as much fun as sports without Corona. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: But you might be catching a break here without that crowd. 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: What do you think, Oh, there's no question. I mean 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: they got probably you know, the number one home field advantage. 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I think I've seen somewhere where they've you know, they 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: have the best home field record of any club in 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: the NFL over the past either seven to ten years. 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: But it's, uh, you know, it's impressive. And we've been 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: up there a lot and played a lot of games 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: up there, and you know, their fandom up there as special, uh, 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: and do a great job with the presentation, and you 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: know it's difficult to get a win up there with 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: those fans and think they're not gonna you know, have 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: that going for him, Uh, you know, you know, certainly helps. 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: But that's a damn good football team we're going up against, 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: and it's uh, you know, it's going to take our 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: best effort to to beat them. Stephen, I wanted to 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: ask you about this and in this week in the media, 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: we've we've heard and you talk about the efforts you're 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: going to have to have, but you know, some of 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: your players, your defensive players, have come out and talked 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: about maybe having to simplify some things defensively. Is that 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: concerning to you that we're into week three and we're 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: talking about already having to simplify some things or is 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: this just a product of not having OTA's mini camps, 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: training camps and all that stuff. I think it's the latter, Brian. 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, we've got 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: a new staff, and in particular on the defensive side 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: of the ball. You know, Mike's bringing in a new system, 53 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: and we didn't get any time to work on it. 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Nobody's making any excuses. That's just part of it. Nobody 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: got OTAs or many camps. But I do think, you know, 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: I probably had a more profound effect on the teams 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: that you know, we're putting in new systems, whether it's 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator or new offensive coordinator or new 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: head coach. You know it's and you didn't get the 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: time you might normally getting. Usually, as you know, especially 61 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: teams with new head coaches get extra time. So you 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: know that that's part of it. But uh, you know, 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: if you were going to say we need to simplify it, 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: it should be earlier, not later and when you see it. 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: And I think it's just a matter of time of 66 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: our players getting our hands around it, and might getting 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: getting his hands around the personnel that he has. And 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, we certainly had some great conversations this week 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: about who ought to be doing what on that side 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: of the ball, and I'm very convicted we're going to 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: get our hands around it and uh, you know, be 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: able to be and do what we want to do 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: as a football team. So I think it's just uh, 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, having a new new system, uh, some new 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: coaches and obviously some new personnel. It's just getting your 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: hands around it. But I still think we can play 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: very sound football and uh you know and go up 78 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: there and hopefully have give ourselves a chance to win 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: the game. Stephen, you're so hands on your self with 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: the team every day and the involvement that you have. 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Though have you had some discussions with Mike though about 82 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, some of the players talking about, hey we 83 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: have I'd rather have my hand down. I don't want 84 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: to stand up. I mean that that to me is 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: like one of those things where coaches try to put 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the players in best positions to make plays. Are we 87 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of seeing that right now with some of the guys, 88 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: with Everson Griffin talking about that. No, I think it's 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: evolving and I think it'll continue to evolve. And you know, 90 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's the best and he's the leader of the 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: staff back there, the best at you know, putting really 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: good football players in the best possible position to make plays. 93 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: And I think, well, we're evolving, we'll continue to evolve, 94 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: and it's a long season and hopefully we'll continue to 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: get better. It's Steven Jones with us here on your 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Home of the Cowboys one oh five three the Fan. 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: How close to is Dak to being as good as 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? You know, that's just not that's a tough question. 99 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I want to go there, you know, Okay, it's like 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: asking about do you like, uh, compare your son to 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: that boy. I mean, you're you're always gonna like your 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: own better and so but we all know Russell's obviously 103 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: having a off to an MVP type type season, and uh, 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: he's playing lights out. Dak's playing lights out. Uh, you know, 105 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: they're both great leaders for their football team, and uh, 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, I probably as far as I'd take it, 107 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: but both really, I mean, and they're great football players 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: and do a great job for their teams, and Tufta 109 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: really wouldn't want to get into comparing the individual right on. 110 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying what you can right there. Is 111 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: it accurate to say that when Dak goes up tempo 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: like right before half against the Rams or in the 113 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter against Atlanta, that something extra happens 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: with him and he's at his best in in those moments. 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Would would you agree with that assessment? Well, it seems 116 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: to he as of late, especially, I mean, you know, 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: the pace and the tempo seems to be suiting us 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: or at least in success that we're having. And you know, 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: as I was just telling Brian a second ago, whether 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: it's defense, offense, special teams were evolving and uh, you know, 121 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Mike's getting his hands around this team. His stas getting 122 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: his hands around this team, and we're going to continue 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: to evolve and hopefully what makes us a championship caliber 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: football team. Stephen, you we cheered you when you drafted 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: ceedee Lamb seventeenth overall. I mean it's like gift from 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: the draft guards if you ask me. But you know, 127 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: as you've seen him play these first couple of weeks, 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: what he's he's he's been such a difference maker for 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: you already at such a young age. Yeah, he's just 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: a natural. I mean he's got you know, everything that 131 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: uh and more that we thought he might bring to 132 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: the table as a receiver. He's just a natural. He's 133 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: uh got great football instincts, great football iq H. He 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: wants to be the best. It's in him. He loves 135 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: to play the game. You know, he just got the 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: full package. And you know, having said all that, I 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: think the you know, the sky's a limit for him. 138 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: And you know, he's even the greatest compliment I can 139 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: give him is he's better than advertised. And we had 140 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: him up there at the very top of the draft 141 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, in the top handful of players. 142 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 1: So he's certainly performing to that level, if not better. 143 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: And you know, to be able to walk you know, 144 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: be a walk in contributor like he's doing is special. Yeah. 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean to put up forty points without your starting tackles, 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: who gets the credit for it besides seeing everybody on. 147 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is that Dak's decision making the collection of 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: wide receivers the backup tackles that was really impressive overcoming adversity. Stephen, Well, 149 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I think it's the full body of work. I think, 150 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, you just you said it best without saying everybody. 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: It's hard not to say everybody. He's got a finger 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: and you know, making it all work. I mean, uh, 153 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, coach Philbin and the offensive line group, I 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: think you have done a great job bringing Steal and 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: Night along. Obviously, hats off to the person who department 156 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: will and our scouting department on uh, you know, finding 157 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, undrafted free agents like Night and Steal that 158 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: can come in and play your you know, play your 159 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: right and left tackle and as you said, as fourth 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: and fifth tackles on your team, be able to be 161 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: able to have that kind of production. And then of 162 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: course you then you get into the game plan with 163 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Kellen and coach McCarthy and you know the things they're 164 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: doing and uh, and then the players just executing. So 165 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a full body of work and uh, 166 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: it is something to think that we're you're able to 167 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: take your fourth and fifth tackles going into camp and 168 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: be able to move the ball like that, Stephen, I 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: was going to ask you me, I'm just going boldly 170 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: to say that Tyren Smith's going to play this week 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: unless you tell me different. But you know you're gonna 172 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: have to if that's the case, Are you gonna have 173 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: to make a decision at right tackle or a steal? 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Done enough in the last two games to say no, 175 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep Night as the swing guy. Yeah, 176 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: I think we'll just uh, as as you know, uh, 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Tyring will be a game time decision. Again. He's certainly 178 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: making great progress and you know, I love for him 179 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: to be able to play. We'll see how that works out. 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: But no, I think, you know, we made a conscious 181 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: decision to keep Steal out there, and I think Nights 182 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: are proven guy who could probably do either and also 183 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: be a guard if you needed to be. So we'll 184 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: just kind of see how that goes. It's nice to 185 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: have a guy like Night who's got the flexibility and 186 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: the versatility to to help you out. And uh, you know, 187 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: obviously the injury bugs not just happening into the Dallas Cowboys. 188 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: That's as we all know happening around the league, and uh, 189 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: you know this is going to be one of those 190 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: years where you just gotta embrace your situation and then 191 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, as things come at you, you got to 192 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: do the best with what you have. I think, uh, 193 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, seeing somebody talking about coach McCarthy about what 194 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: a great job he's done throughout his career of being 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: able to make some things work when you got some 196 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: situations that aren't perfect, and uh, he was telling us 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: about one in particular where he played the Bears with 198 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: four high sensive guards in a center and just uh 199 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: walking us through the game plan and how he made 200 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: it work. And I think he said he had two 201 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: five step drops and both of them were sacks. So 202 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: that was the end of that and he went to 203 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: the quicker game. And but the good news for us 204 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: is we were able to do, uh, you know, a 205 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: lot with with these tackles and execute. So so that's 206 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: a plus. Stephen, one of the things you always taught 207 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: me when I worked for you was to protect yourself 208 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: with players. And you know, in your roster and stuff, 209 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: do you did you did you have When you signed 210 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, there was talk about him playing safety, But 211 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: with how banged up you are at corner, do you 212 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: envision him maybe taking some snaps also being that flexibility 213 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: where he could play a corner and also play safety 214 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: for you if he had to. Absolutely, that was the 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: beauty of getting him. You know, he's got that talked about, 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: that flexibility versatility to be able to do both. He's 217 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: played at a high level at both in this league, 218 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and certainly to have him sitting there when we're banged 219 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: up there with Anthony Brown and Cheeto and Diggs being 220 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: a little limited some the beginning of the week, you know, 221 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: you certainly have to look at a veteran guy like 222 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: that to help you there. So it's great to have 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Brandon on the roster. Appreciate you as always, Steven, 224 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: give him hell up there on Sunday. We'll be pulling 225 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: for you. Thanks a lot, guys, always great being on 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: with you.