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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Rapid reaction as the Giants fall

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Speaker 2: to the San Francisco forty nine ers thirty to twelve

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Speaker 2: on Thursday Night Football. My name is Madeline Burke, alongside

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl champ Amani Tumor to break this one

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Speaker 2: down and Tumor. One of the big storylines, of course

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Speaker 2: coming out of this game was all the missed opportunities.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you how many times we're watching this

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Speaker 2: game tonight and we're watching the amount of almost tackles,

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Speaker 2: almost interceptions. Almost was the keyword for the night.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those nights where the Niners opened

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Speaker 3: the door and they allowed the Giants an opportunity, a

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Speaker 3: peak into what possibly could have been a monumental on

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Speaker 3: Monday on Thursday night, a great win for the Giants,

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Speaker 3: but there was no spark, there was no big play,

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Speaker 3: there was no party starter, nobody stuff stood up and

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Speaker 3: said you know and tried to drag this team along.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like a lot of guys who are playing hard,

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Speaker 3: but there's a difference between playing hard and playing with

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Speaker 3: your hair on fire, and a lot of these they

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Speaker 3: just did not. You did not see that playmaking ability

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Speaker 3: on either side of the ball today, which ultimately, to

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Speaker 3: beat a team like this on the road in a

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Speaker 3: short week, you need to have some big plays. They

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Speaker 3: were all. They were close in many circumstances in terms

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Speaker 3: of you know, there was a couple of tip balls,

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Speaker 3: a couple of air and throws by Brock Purty that

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Speaker 3: could have turned the tide unopportune, unopportune uh times where

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Speaker 3: there was a penalty mistackles. All this is going to

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Speaker 3: contribute to a loss, especially against one of the a

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Speaker 3: team that was a one game away from going to

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl last year in the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: Well, and you talk about the pressure too, I mean

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Speaker 2: we did see credit to this defense because they did

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Speaker 2: apply much more pressure than we have seen the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I mean, Brock Party was you know,

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Speaker 2: under pressure for quite a bit of it. The Giants

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Speaker 2: blitz Brock Party on thirty three of thirty nine of

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Speaker 2: his dropbacks. It's almost eighty five percent, which is the

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Speaker 2: highest blitz rate in a game that they've done ever.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. But despite that, you know, Party was

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Speaker 2: still kind of able to get things done downfield. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Caveon Thibodeau did get a sack, the first sack for

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Speaker 2: the Giants of this season. We also saw another sack

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Speaker 2: between Leonard Williams and and DJ Davidson as well, so

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Speaker 2: they weren't able to get a little bit of pressure

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Speaker 2: on the quarterback. But it just wasn't enough. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: enough to stifle it. It wasn't enough. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: a forty nine ers team that we've been talking about

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Speaker 2: all week. Is a slippery offense, and slippery just kind

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Speaker 2: of seemed like the word to describe them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely trying to get Deebo Samuels on the ground, that

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Speaker 3: was a problem. You know, he had the ball, we

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Speaker 3: were in. The Giants defense was in position, missing tackles.

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey the same thing, backbreaker, backbreaking a couple of

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Speaker 3: first downs on third and extremely long. The one that

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Speaker 3: comes to mind more specifically was it was third and fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Brock Purty throws a minus two yard screen pass to

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Speaker 3: Deebo Samuels. He doesn't get touched until twenty yards, and

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Speaker 3: then when he does get touched, he drags three defenders

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Speaker 3: those are the types of plays, especially on third down,

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Speaker 3: if you want to break a defense's back, you let

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Speaker 3: you get that defense in a situation where that they

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Speaker 3: screen and get thirty yards on it. And that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: When you try to go after the quarterback too much,

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Speaker 3: because you commit an extra rusher or two to try

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Speaker 3: itself out today. It's great to be an aggressive defense.

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Speaker 3: I love what Martin Dale does, but he has to

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Speaker 3: figure out that to less is more when it comes

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's just hard.

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Speaker 2: To it's a hard position to put yourself.

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Speaker 3: It's very you're making it a lot harder. You're trying

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Speaker 3: kind of what it's they played out to me today.

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: so go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready for all that? Life breaks?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: And it's also too, I mean you saw you mentioned

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Speaker 2: the third downs too. There's a drive in the second

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Speaker 2: have they convert on a third and thirteen, a third

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Speaker 2: same drive, which led to a touchdown. In the fact

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Speaker 2: that the Giants are letting this happen, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: as you alluded to a lot of this too, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of this coming from the Yak I mean,

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Speaker 2: you look at Brock Purdy and the way he played.

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Speaker 2: You know, no disrespect Brock perty This man's never lost

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Speaker 2: a regular season game. But you watch the way you played.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look like you threw for three hundred ten yards,

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Speaker 2: but that's because two hundred and fifteen of those came

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Speaker 3: Every Yak yardage. And when you can possess the ball

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Speaker 3: three of twelve on third down, you're gonna win a

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Speaker 3: lot of games. You're gonna win a lot of games

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Speaker 3: when you're rushing for one hundred and forty four yards

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Speaker 3: total offense. You rush for one hundred and forty one

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Speaker 3: it's just going to be a lopsided ordeal and the

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Speaker 3: that's just a lot of snaps, extra snaps that you're

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Speaker 2: Right, And you know a lot of injuries to watch

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Speaker 2: Barkley not playing in this game tonight. That was significant

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Speaker 2: The fact that Saquon was out though, it was as

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Speaker 2: though San Francisco had no fear of a run game

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Speaker 2: They didn't even try. Jacks had twenty nine rushing yards

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this should have been a Darren Waller game because

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Speaker 3: what was happening was they were not bringing an extra defender.

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Speaker 3: They were keeping their defense solid on the back making

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Speaker 3: because they realized that if they can just slow Daniel

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Speaker 3: over the middle of the football that should have been

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's all the way back from

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Speaker 3: I think what we were expecting was the Raiders dominant

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Speaker 3: saying tonight needed to be a night where he was

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Speaker 3: have been because of Darren Waller, and that just did

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Speaker 3: not happen tonight. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was targeted seven times, had three receptions

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Speaker 2: perhaps from the biggest place he had was a PI

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Speaker 2: They went for two after that they did not convert.

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Speaker 4: You loved turf, You're good at it, So you start

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Speaker 4: a turf business, grows, your savings, grow, become the most

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Speaker 4: celebrated name in turfs. Are you ready for all that

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Speaker 2: It was just a tough play. Another you know, another

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Speaker 2: guy that we're expecting to see more from, I think

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Speaker 2: was Jalen Hyatt, who wasn't targeted at all. Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: we want to get all these guys involved, but you know,

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Speaker 2: And I think we were coming off of that Arizona

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Speaker 2: these chunk plays could be a factor in this game,

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Speaker 2: and they just they weren't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I think of play calling when I think

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Speaker 3: of situations on offense, I always think of you think

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Speaker 3: to find ways. I don't know if I don't know

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Speaker 3: the most explosive players. But I anticipate they're gonna, you know,

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Speaker 3: But you know, he is a rookie and there's a

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Speaker 3: lot going on in rookies heads. I was a rookie.

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Speaker 3: It was hard. Yeah, it was a hard transition. So

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Speaker 3: i'm selfishly as a giant, you know, to analyze the giants.

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Speaker 3: I want him to be more involved, but I know

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Speaker 3: that it's a tough process and it's one of the

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Speaker 3: came from in Tennessee. So I know it's a maturation process.

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Speaker 3: But we ain't got time for that. We need some

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Speaker 3: the entire field opened up because remember what happened last

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Speaker 3: week after the second half they threw a forty.

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Speaker 2: They had a long thirty eight yard or fifty eight

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Speaker 3: Eight yard play, and then all of a sudden, everything

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna have to wait a little bit longer

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Speaker 2: October second, Monday Night Football. That is week four. That

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Speaker 2: It's October what but you know what, that's the next game,

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks coming to town Monday Night Football at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 2: This will give this team some good time to get

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith and that squad. We'll be looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Moni tumor, I'm Madeline Burke wrapping up the thirty to

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