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Speaker 1: Dan and the Dan Nets. Dan Patrick Show heard from

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Speaker 1: Steve Alford played for Bob Knight at Indiana, won a

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Speaker 1: national title. Now the Nevada head coach, he reminisced on

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Speaker 1: Coach Night and the Complex person that he was passing

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Speaker 1: away at the age of eighty three. Ross Tucker he

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Speaker 1: joined us, got us ready for the Titans and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: That's tonight with the Titans getting three with Will Levis

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Speaker 1: at the helm and Ross Tucker pointed out something I

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Speaker 1: love when an analyst will tell you something so then

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Speaker 1: when you're watching the game you can remember this, And

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Speaker 1: he said, keep an eye on play action pass because

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons thought that the Titans were going to

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Speaker 1: run the ball with Derrick Henry against them last week

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Speaker 1: because Will Levis had not played well. They let Will

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Speaker 1: Levis carve it up with four touchdown passes, and Ross

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Speaker 1: Tucker said, keep an eye on the Steelers. They will

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Speaker 1: not fall for the play action pass because they're basically saying,

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Speaker 1: we're expecting you to throw the football. We're not as

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Speaker 1: concerned if Derrick Henry runs the ball. NASCAR Championship Season

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Speaker 1: at Phoenix one final Showdown out West four drivers enter

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Speaker 1: one leaves NASCAR's champ next Sunday, three Eastern on NBC

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Speaker 1: in Peacock. See No O'Connor is doing the duties, yes,

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Speaker 1: he said, duties of the poll question.

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Speaker 2: Today Crappensburg State, Hello, whose career would you rather have?

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Speaker 3: Up to this point?

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Speaker 2: Right now, Corey Seeger still has half the vote. Is

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Speaker 2: that recency bias or is that legit?

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Speaker 1: I think it's recency bias because you're probably not sure

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Speaker 1: all of Corey Seeger's resume, whereas you know Mike Trouts

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Speaker 1: and you know Bryce Harper's. Corey Seegers is like, oh

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Speaker 1: that's right, Rookie of the Year. Oh you want a

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Speaker 1: title with the Dodgers MVP. Okay, all right, And it

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Speaker 1: comes down to Also, Mike Trout hasn't really played in

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Speaker 1: the postseason, and Corey Seeger has had two World Series

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Speaker 1: titles and won the MVP, and that's only happened with

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Speaker 1: three other players in baseball history. So is it recency bias? Yes,

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Speaker 1: but I can understand it. I mean, it's what do

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Speaker 1: you value if you say, I won a couple of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls but I wasn't a Hall of Fame player,

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Speaker 1: Or would you rather be a Hall of Fame player

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Speaker 1: and you didn't have success in the postseason. We discussed

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Speaker 1: this yesterday. PAULI said he would take Eli Manning over

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino, and I said, you're crazy.

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Speaker 4: I feel I half regret what I said.

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Speaker 1: You should feel dirty, but man.

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Speaker 4: I stick by it.

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Speaker 3: But it is jam Marino is like he is.

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Speaker 5: The highest end example of someone who didn't win a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl or win a title in their sport. I

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Speaker 5: think there's no better athlete at their sport who didn't win,

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Speaker 5: like to meet Charles Barkley's right there.

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Speaker 1: What about Mike Tround.

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Speaker 4: I think he's equal with Dan Marino.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not iconic like Dan Marino was. Like

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino, everything about him, he looks like a movie Star.

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Speaker 1: He played differently than any other quarterback. He threw the

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Speaker 1: ball deep to Duper and Clayton. He was exciting.

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Speaker 6: Yes, more he was an as Ventura.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, he was an ace Ventura. Also Hoody and

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Speaker 1: the Blowfish video that I was in as well.

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Speaker 6: Yes, people are Dolphins fans because of Dan Marino.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, people.

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Speaker 6: Thirty years later.

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Speaker 7: Anytime I go to a game where the Dolphins are

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Speaker 7: playing on the road, there's thirteen jerseys.

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Speaker 1: And it is you know when you start to think,

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Speaker 1: it would be like what quarterback jersey do you have

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Speaker 1: with the Dolphins? Oh Marino. The number of people who

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Speaker 1: I haven't even thought of this, But the number of

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Speaker 1: I know, yes, did.

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Speaker 8: It's a bias on mind, but you're gonna see Lway

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Speaker 8: jerseys all over the place, not just in Denver but

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, Appoly I.

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Speaker 5: Would say getting people who didn't even care about a

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Speaker 5: franchise to care about him. Wayne Gretze with La Kings,

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Speaker 5: I mean people everyone had a King's jersey.

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Speaker 1: Well that was he was league wide, like his his love,

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Speaker 1: his universal appeal was league wide. It wasn't just the Kings.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, he made La a hockey town at

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Speaker 1: least for a while. Yes, yes, well, I mean I

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Speaker 1: think the obvious one is Jordan Right. A lot of

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Speaker 1: But if we just keep it to football, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Would bet Joe Montana created a hell of a lot

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Speaker 1: Okay, Barry Sanders. By the way, that documentary is going

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Speaker 1: to come out right before Thanksgiving. It's called Bye Bye Berry,

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Speaker 1: and I took part in it because I've known Barry

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Speaker 1: well done. There's some good stuff. And I didn't say

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Speaker 1: It should have been. You know, his nickname could have

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Speaker 1: been Air Sanders because that's usually what you had when

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Speaker 1: made more people miss. I think he made more tacklers

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Speaker 1: look worse than any other player in football history when

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Speaker 1: nobody like Barry Sanders. Because I even said to Barry,

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Speaker 1: He goes, no, it's just and his body moved in

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Speaker 1: interviewed for the documentary, and I'm going, how did he

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Pully, I'll go back to when Michael Vick was

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Speaker 5: drafted by the Falcons, that everybody wanted the Falcons jersey.

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Speaker 5: Everyone wanted to tune into them from a tune in factor.

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Speaker 5: Michael Vick's first year didn't play a ton. He was

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Speaker 5: like in and out, in and out, But man, he

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: players down through history that you know, we're forgetting Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: Current, Dave, Patrick Mahomes, Yeah yeah. Going to the Jets

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Speaker 7: chief game earlier this month or last month, the amount

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Speaker 7: of kids wearing number fifteen jerseys was. It was Steph

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Speaker 7: Curry like, it was Lebron like where it was like, hey,

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Speaker 7: who do you like?

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Speaker 6: You like the Chiefs?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, I guess, But Patrick Maholmes makes

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Speaker 7: me like the Chiefs. Now, Yeah, same thing with Steph

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Speaker 7: there's going to be a ton of people cheering for

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Speaker 7: that one player.

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Speaker 1: EH seven seven three DP show email address Dpadan Patrick

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Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle the GP Show. I've made the comparison.

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Speaker 1: I think others have made the comparison. Ralph Samson played

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Speaker 1: at Virginia, played for the Rockets. Injuries curtailed his career,

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Speaker 1: but he was still a Hall of Fame center. And

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Speaker 1: when I saw him play, you saw somebody who had

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Speaker 1: size seven to four, but you know skill that he

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Speaker 1: could have been Victor one Biama. Before Victor one Biama,

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Speaker 1: we just didn't treat our big men that way. And

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Speaker 1: he played for a coach, Bill Fitch, who said get inside.

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Speaker 1: But Ralph in today's game would be like Victor one Byama.

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Speaker 1: He'd be a perimeter player, had great touch, had mobility

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Speaker 1: and could block a lot of shots. But I wanted

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Speaker 1: to have Ralph on on what kind of advice he

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Speaker 1: would give Victor one Byama. So Titan Steelers coming up.

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Speaker 1: Rangers beat the Diamondbacks to win their first World Series.

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Speaker 1: What's the list now of teams who haven't won a

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Speaker 1: World Series?

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Speaker 4: It's at Mariners, Padres, Rays, Brewers, Rockies. Those are the

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Speaker 4: teams now that the Rangers off the schneid.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now are we factoring in the Brewers with the

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Speaker 1: Braves like? I don't, because the Braves didn't they win

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Speaker 1: one with Hank Aaron in Milwaukee. So we're just talking

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Speaker 1: about the Brewers, not the Milwaukee Breaks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because if you look at official team history, they're

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Speaker 5: the Seattle pilots that became the Milwaukee Brewers. You know,

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Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Braves are the Atlanta Braves history Nickley, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so the Milwaukee Bukers.

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Speaker 9: I don't.

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Speaker 1: So we're not talking about the city, correct, We're talking.

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Speaker 4: About okay, franchise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the Mariners were the pilots.

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Speaker 4: Padre Brewers were the pilots.

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Speaker 5: The pilot did one year in sixty nine in Seattle

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Speaker 5: and then moved quickly to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: Okay, see how the pilots were terrible booted after one year?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, that's tough. This how bad you are?

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Speaker 1: See you? Who was so the pond? Who feels the

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Speaker 1: The Rays feel the closest, don't they?

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Speaker 4: They had ninety nine wins this year.

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Speaker 5: The Seattle Mariners had eighty eight wins this year and

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Speaker 5: we're just a couple games out of the playoff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say the Rays probably feel closer. Who feels

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Mark the way the Padres are spending, they should be closer.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 1: They had to take out a fifty million dollars loan.

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Speaker 6: Yikes.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have the money to re sign

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Speaker 1: Juan Soto. What are you going to pay Wan Soto

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Speaker 1: like ten forty for four hundred million.

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Speaker 5: If you see a loan shark logo on their uniforms

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Speaker 5: next year, you know where it came from.

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, bail bonds on bad news bears that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gonna have that. Chic goes bail bonds. I think

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Speaker 1: Dion Sanders going to join US coming up next week

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Speaker 1: and the number one high school basketball player in the country,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag, will join us. He's going to go to

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Speaker 1: Duke for one year and then probably go to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: All right, back to the Rangers, well done, and I

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Speaker 1: know the ratings will be horrible, But if you're a

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Speaker 1: Rangers fan and you've been really close to winning a

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Speaker 1: World Series, I wouldn't worry about the ratings. Who saw it,

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Speaker 1: don't play the nobody gives us respect. Don't just enjoy it,

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Speaker 1: celebrate it, win it again next year. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: I have the odds to win the World Series next

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Speaker 1: year according to DraftKings. Anybody want to take a guess, Todd,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go Philadelphia has got an extra grind.

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Speaker 6: He wants to get right back there.

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Speaker 1: They are fifth in the odds. PAULI the Braves, they

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Speaker 1: But the Rangers. Yeah, Diamondbacks aren't in there. Diamondbacks wouldn't

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Speaker 6: Marvin, I'm gonna go five and a half.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's time Oregon over under, Oregon over under. Todd

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Speaker 1: Bloop bloo blown road. Yeah, it seems wow, that's a suspicious.

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Speaker 3: Back to the Rangers here too long, Dan Bruce.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Bochie, the Rangers manager, on winning a fourth World Series.

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Speaker 11: You now look at the list of managers who have

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Speaker 10: Who Yeah, it's a little really overwhelming because of what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame. He should

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Speaker 1: be a voiceover guy when he's done. You imagine that beef.

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Speaker 1: That's a good voice. You know what pickup trunk? Yeah? Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: still who's doing ram?

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Speaker 1: Is Sam Elliott still doing that? I'd like to I'd

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he does the Cores Cores banquet beer and then

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Speaker 6: They're very big with it.

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Speaker 1: It's got a hemmy.

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Speaker 5: Jeremy Renner not a fistfight because he was in born identity.

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Speaker 4: But Jeremy Renner pipes. He's got nice pipes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he doesn't have these, right, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I'd like to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe just pick off one cores banquet beer.

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Speaker 3: That's good work if you can get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Dennis Leary's got f one fifty.

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Speaker 3: You know who's killing it? John Hamm?

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Speaker 1: What's he voiced?

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Speaker 3: Was doing he was doing? Yeah, I know you should

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Speaker 3: be insulting.

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Speaker 2: He was doing Mercedes voiceovers even before Medmen. He's been

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Speaker 1: Right, fairness. I like that loyalty from one of our

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Speaker 10: There.

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Speaker 2: Our guy that does Reese's and uh will Arnette? Will

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Speaker 2: Arnett isrushing a lot of stuff. He's very popular, he's

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Speaker 1: And then you have the star from Succession does McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: But up, do you think that Brian it's not Brian Cox? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know what, he might be a hardcore McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to look into him? Were looking at it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Thanks me as a quarter pounder and cheese guy, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like Tiger driving a Buwick. I

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Speaker 2: Those value meals cost like twenty bucks now do they?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of value that is, But

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Speaker 1: Can you order a kid's meal and then just not

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Speaker 1: ask for the toy? Why? Well, a choking hazard, A

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Speaker 6: Just get the toy whatever, give it, give it away.

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Speaker 1: Give it away, give it away, give it away now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling.

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Speaker 5: Josh Lucas, the actor does a bunch of them. I

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Speaker 5: think he does home depot he've been doing after.

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Speaker 1: Year was he in Sweet Home, Alabama?

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Speaker 4: Don't don't do that. Don't do that with wreath with

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Speaker 1: Work for you do? I love Love.

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Speaker 6: It's a good movie.

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Speaker 1: My family we come up with every Christmas. We always

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Speaker 1: wreath Witherspoon. Who's what do you think? Who's with me?

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Speaker 1: Come on?

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Speaker 4: He's the break.

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Speaker 6: You can voice over that Witherspoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would sell those wreaths at Christmas time. Brilliant,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd. Now I know it's about idea, Paulie.

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Speaker 1: Find me a truck company that I can voice for.

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Speaker 12: You know it's spressy with the Nasmith Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: Best player you played against was who myself. Well, you

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Speaker 12: He said, well, I can't catch you, I can't up

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Speaker 12: Artist is the strongest human I've ever met. And if

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Speaker 1: I was wondering about with Victor won by Emma, because

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Speaker 1: when I do look at him, I do see you.

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Speaker 1: But I wonder if you were coming up today, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have stayed four years at Virginia, I'm guessing, and

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Speaker 1: you would have gone to the NBA. But do you

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Speaker 1: think that you could have been used the same way

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Speaker 1: given what today's game? Because you played for Bill Fitch.

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Speaker 1: Bill Fitch is saying get down on the blocks. But

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Speaker 1: in today's NBA, would you have had that talents, you know,

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Speaker 1: skill set to be able to do that?

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Speaker 12: God Black Bill fifth because you know seven footage back

448
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Speaker 12: then couldn't shoot threes. I mean you had to be

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Speaker 12: close to the basket. So I would have loved to

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Speaker 12: play in today's game because you know, I you know,

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Speaker 12: I got tired of being double team, triple team in

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Speaker 12: the post even from hospital to college and to get

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Speaker 12: loose and dribbles. So that's while on his dribble, I

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Speaker 12: got tired of getting double tack. I couldn't get the ball,

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Speaker 12: so I know I could get it was rebound and

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Speaker 12: take it the court myself, and so I was able

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Speaker 12: to do that. But the day's game would have been very,

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Speaker 12: very fun to play in shooting threes, dribbling, you know,

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Speaker 12: and even posting up with guys that were smaller than me.

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Speaker 12: I could take it to the post as well, So

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Speaker 12: I would have been probably, I think, pretty good.

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Speaker 9: In the day's game for sure.

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Speaker 1: What do you see with m Bayama and what concerns you?

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Speaker 9: I mean, he has great talent. I think he had

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Speaker 9: a high motor.

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Speaker 12: I watched him play the other night with against Kevin

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Speaker 12: Uran and the Phoenix Sun, winning one fifteen, one thirteen,

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Speaker 12: and it was an amazing game to watch him play.

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Speaker 9: He only had eighteen points. But you know, I tell

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Speaker 9: everybody Nibad is very smart. Is the right or wrong reason?

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Speaker 12: He's with the great Papovich and he's one of the

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Speaker 12: best coaches out there in the history of the game.

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Speaker 12: I know, with Tim Duncan and David Robinson, but he's

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Speaker 12: gona have the off some player of the running. But

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Speaker 12: we'll see what happens over the coursing period of time. Obviously,

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Speaker 12: my concerns would be his body, but I think am

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Speaker 12: I watched him on some video tapes. I watched him

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Speaker 12: on some Instagram stuff where he stretches. He has great flexibility.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: When I came out and then the NBA, they didn't

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Speaker 9: have any weight rooms in any gyms.

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Speaker 12: I was first wan and bought a weight room to

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Speaker 12: the Houston Rockets, to the NBA ring and now sat

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Speaker 12: John's birthday of the five hundred million dollars fronts Facilian.

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Speaker 9: You know, the time of this changed, right, So the

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Speaker 9: diet is different, the workouts different.

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Speaker 12: Although I was pretty good at what I did, but

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Speaker 12: I had to cook my own food and everything, which

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Speaker 12: is fine.

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Speaker 9: He has that to his luxury, but the body has

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Speaker 9: to fill out.

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Speaker 12: He's still young, he's you know, it's still a young man,

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Speaker 12: and the knees and the ankles after eighty two games

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Speaker 12: is gonna be We'll see where he at the first year.

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Speaker 12: But my concern would be they played against a smaller,

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Speaker 12: quicker guy, and he's twisted and turned and twisted his

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Speaker 12: knee or ligament or joints, and that could hurt himself.

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Speaker 9: I think he's got to get stronger physically. But the

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Speaker 9: game is phenomenal. I love the game.

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Speaker 1: But the difference between putting on weight and building strength,

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Speaker 1: what's what's more important.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't have to put on any weight. He just

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Speaker 9: gonna get stronger. And you see his arms. He's had

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Speaker 9: the arms.

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Speaker 12: His body's formed, it is coming. But he doesn't have

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Speaker 12: to put on bulk. Right, we had to put on

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Speaker 12: book and playing the posts and the body. You know,

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Speaker 12: I was two hundred and fifty pounds than my highest

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Speaker 12: playing I came in at two twenty five to two thirty.

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Speaker 12: But I put on strength, muscle and weight, and sometimes

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Speaker 12: that's not a good antidote for playing in the NBA.

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Speaker 12: But I think he'll put on just some strengths and

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Speaker 12: peer strengths and then be able to keep his flexibility

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Speaker 12: yoga and all the stuff he's doing. See you doing

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Speaker 12: a lot, and he will be a phenomenal player, no question.

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Speaker 1: About Ralph played in the NBA Finals nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: I was at the Boston Garden when you guys were

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Speaker 1: playing in the NBA Finals. I was covering that. You

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Speaker 1: probably don't remember me, but I was there, Ralph, just letting.

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Speaker 9: You know, what do you remember what basket where? You wonder?

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Speaker 9: That's the question, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have good seats you know, I was up

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Speaker 1: in the rafters there. What do you remember most about

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Speaker 1: playing against the Celtics?

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Speaker 12: Oh, I mean playing against the Lakers were fun and

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Speaker 12: went in on the shot to get hums there. But

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Speaker 12: everybody you know always wanted to play against the Lakers

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Speaker 12: or the Celtics. I mean, you know, you played in

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Speaker 12: that era because they were so good, you want to

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Speaker 12: play and compete and beat them. So going to Boston

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Speaker 12: was fun. We're run a very good high, coming from

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Speaker 12: the Lakers to home and having all being celebrated to Boston.

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Speaker 12: But we weren't quite ready for the Boston in fanatics.

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Speaker 12: You know, you go there and people from the taxicab

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Speaker 12: drivers to the hotel bunch boys, to the maids to

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Speaker 12: everybody there with the Boston Green, right, So you hadn't

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Speaker 12: be prepared for that mentally, and then you know we

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Speaker 12: get we get beat up a couple of games that

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Speaker 12: would come back in and then I had a nice fight,

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Speaker 12: you know in Houston. So now I wanted to win,

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Speaker 12: you know, a good first quarter, but always having a

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Speaker 12: conversation with e Cedric Marxwell and hit the radio show

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Speaker 12: a year or two ago.

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Speaker 9: Whatever it was.

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Speaker 12: And when I go to Boston and they like to

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Speaker 12: hang Ralph, kill Ralph for you know, having a figment

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Speaker 12: and fight with Jerseyson and Dan As.

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Speaker 9: They had a poster ory.

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Speaker 12: I guess they made out socks and hung with an

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Speaker 12: effigy over the Boston side at that point in time,

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Speaker 12: and with Craig and the policeman, I'm taking down. But

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Speaker 12: the biggest thing I remember is not just to plan

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Speaker 12: against Larry. Larry was very shut that lady could play,

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Speaker 12: and he would.

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Speaker 9: He would daily. We would have Robert Reid go to

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Speaker 9: the game. Early got to be Larry to the arena,

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Speaker 9: and you.

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Speaker 12: Never could be. You never could be. He would be

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Speaker 12: working out before after. You know, he couldn't jump, you know,

560
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Speaker 12: he couldn't run fans, but he was smarter to whim.

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Speaker 12: So Robery would try to go beat him to the arena.

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Speaker 9: He never did. He never did.

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Speaker 12: And so we say, okay, Robert, just stop trying because

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Speaker 12: he's gonna kill you the night. But that was the

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Speaker 12: fun out of the fun part of fun days. And

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Speaker 12: then so the other pieces of that Bill Fish. When

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Speaker 12: we you know, we knew he was gonna lose. He'd

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Speaker 12: made all of us get off the court. He took

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Speaker 12: the time out, all the starters got off the court

570
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Speaker 12: into the locker room because he knew that.

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Speaker 9: The Boston finance who was gonna swarm the court and

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Speaker 9: something would happen. So, you know, we knew that it

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Speaker 9: was fun. It was fun to play in that air.

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Speaker 9: I mean it was it was It was a good

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Speaker 9: time for me.

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again. Have fun. On November tenth,

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Speaker 1: when it's the night to honor Ralph Sampson, it'll be

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Speaker 1: Virginia playing Florida. Thank you, Ralph. Good to talk to

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Speaker 1: you again.

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Speaker 9: Always good to talk to you. Take care and see

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Speaker 9: you some.

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Speaker 1: That's Ralph Sampson, number one overall picked by the Rockets

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty three draft and a Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Year. He was also three time college basketball Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year. And you saw like he has this

586
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Speaker 1: unbelievable off balance shot that he makes to beat the

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Speaker 1: Lakers in Los Angeles, and then you go, you know,

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Speaker 1: to face the Celtics, and I remember Robert Reid was

589
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Speaker 1: going to be the Larry Bird stopper, and then you

590
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Speaker 1: had an Elijah Won and you had Samson and I

591
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Speaker 1: just remember being fascinated by a Kim Elijaha. That's when

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Speaker 1: I fell in love with his game. And you could

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Speaker 1: tell that the Celtics didn't really and they had a

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Speaker 1: great front line with Parrish and McHale, but Keem was

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Speaker 1: a different He was a different dude. Man. He was awesome.

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Speaker 1: But that Rockets team was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Marv, were you guys afacting the Lakers Celtics the

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Speaker 7: meet for the thursd straight year? Like what was the

599
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Speaker 7: reaction around like the media and the nation when the

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Speaker 7: Rockets beat them handily?

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Speaker 9: Too?

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Speaker 6: Was I four to one?

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Speaker 1: I think we're all surprised. It was like, wow, the

604
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Speaker 1: Rockets are they ready for this? Because we knew the

605
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Speaker 1: Lakers were going to be ready for that. And then

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Speaker 1: but to be there and I didn't go on the road.

607
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Speaker 1: I always covered sports in Baltimore, Boston, Philly, New York

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Speaker 1: and DC, and I covered a lot of things with

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox or with the Celtics, and to be

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Speaker 1: there when they won that title, to be there when

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Speaker 1: Magic hits the sky hook over Kevin McHale and wins

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Speaker 1: that game, wins the title for the Lakers. Jack Nicholson

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Speaker 1: was in the stand like there was just so much

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Speaker 1: stuff back then that was going on, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I was seasoned enough to understand what I

616
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Speaker 1: was able to watch because I was young covering that

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Speaker 1: and even the eighty six World Series with Bill Buckner

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Speaker 1: with the Mets to be around for that, so you

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Speaker 1: got to see a lot of wonderful historical events.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Mark, as you get older, do you have a

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Speaker 7: bunch of forced gup moments, like, Man, I was there

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Speaker 7: for that.

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Speaker 6: I can't even believe that.

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Speaker 7: They're just things that maybe you might not even remember

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Speaker 7: that you were there for or didn't think it was

626
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Speaker 7: a big deal at the time.

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Speaker 1: Some of it you didn't know how big of a

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Speaker 1: deal it was. I was there with the eighty five draft,

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Speaker 1: you know where you're I was there for the Ewing

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Speaker 1: Lottery event. But I have all of these press passes.

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Speaker 1: I saved them all. They're all over the doors here

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Speaker 1: and I just put them up as reminders of, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I was there for that, and you forget. But I've

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Speaker 1: been able to remember going in when the seventy six

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Speaker 1: ers lost and I interviewed doctor j in the training room,

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Speaker 1: and like, just like these moments where you're going, you know,

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Speaker 1: why was I there? Gretzky played the Philadelphia Flyers. I

638
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Speaker 1: remember being in Philadelphia watching him and I it was

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Speaker 1: the first time you're seeing him in person like that,

640
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Speaker 1: and you're like, that guy is the guy that you

641
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Speaker 1: would probably not he'd be the last guy you'd picked.

642
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Speaker 1: If you didn't know who he was. You'd be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take that guy. That guy there,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll take that guy. And then all of

645
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Speaker 1: a sudden you're watching John McEnroe at the Garden, the Rangers,

646
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Islanders at the Garden. Ken Morrow scores the goal, the

647
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Islanders go on this run. I mean, just so many

648
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Speaker 1: great events that you look back. I mean, I've been

649
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Speaker 1: very fortunate being at the right place. But there is

650
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Speaker 1: a forest gump feel to that office. Lieutenant Day, that

651
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Speaker 1: would be me. All right, let me take a break

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Speaker 1: and last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's

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Speaker 1: in store tomorrow. We're back after this. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: Last call for phone calls. What we've learned in What's

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Speaker 1: in store Tomorrow, Busy schedule, Tomorrow, busy lineup. Rich Eisen

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Speaker 1: will join us from Germany. He'll be on the call

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Speaker 1: NFL Network with the Dolphins and the Chiefs. Also, Washington

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Speaker 1: head football coach Kaylin de Boor will join us getting

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Speaker 1: ready for USC and Chris mad Dog Russo will stop

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Speaker 1: by as well.

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Speaker 6: It's a good job out of your day, Thank you, Todd.

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Speaker 1: All right, Paulie, This day in sports history just.

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Speaker 5: Got it, actually got a couple of good ones here.

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Speaker 5: It was announced that George Herman Babe Ruth had applied

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Speaker 5: for the job as the manager of the Saint Louis

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Speaker 5: Browns after being released as a coach of the Brooklyn Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Did not get it.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen thirty eight, nineteen seventy two, construction began on the

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Speaker 5: Kingdome in Seattle. Nineteen ninety two, Magic Johnson retired for

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Speaker 5: the NBA for good and underrated player. Nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 5: Eric Metcalf of the Chargers at an NFL record when

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Speaker 5: he ran back two kicks for touchdowns and single game

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Speaker 5: finished with ten in this career.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy eight, the Indianapolis Racers of the WHA Selwayne

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Speaker 1: Gretzky and two other players to the Edmonton Oilers for

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Speaker 1: the price of eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. How

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Speaker 1: did that investment turn out? It's quite a bargain, one

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Speaker 1: of the great bargains. Ryan and Iowa, Hey, Ryan, what's

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Speaker 1: on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 15: Dam is Ryan like Samdberg?

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Speaker 6: First time?

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Speaker 15: Longtime six ' one, six ' two, depending which gas

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Speaker 15: station I'm at. I just wanted to say, I love,

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Speaker 15: love the portion with Dylan there. He just needs to

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Speaker 15: show somebody to how to run the graphics back there

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Speaker 15: and get some graphics to liven it up.

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Speaker 1: A little bit. Thank you, Ryan.

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Speaker 4: Kind of harsh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the podcast, Dan Patrick takes a gamble later today.

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Speaker 1: We'll tape that right after the show. With Shan Irving,

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Speaker 1: Dylan the graphics guy, and bad Larry. College football tonight.

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Speaker 1: What do we have now? We do have the Titans

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers. Sure is there something that's going to

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Speaker 1: rival the Oh, of.

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Speaker 5: Course, You've got South Alabama. Southern Alabama at Troy. Troy's

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Speaker 5: given three and a half, Okay, Fritzi's been pubbing up

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Speaker 5: Wake Forest for some reason.

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Speaker 4: They're getting ten and a half against.

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Speaker 6: Duke Deeks and Duke and Durham. Let's go.

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Speaker 5: Let's not TCU at Texas Tech very optional defense. The

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Speaker 5: overrunners fifty nine and a half. So TCU at Texas

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Speaker 5: Tech is the fun one.

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Speaker 1: What's TCU's record four and four? Okay? Because that was

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Speaker 1: a big win for Colorado and then you realize maybe

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Speaker 1: it was that bigg win.

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Speaker 4: How do you get in the national title?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: You still look back on that bull junk.

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Speaker 6: That was a big win.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if you guys have

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Speaker 1: followed this this. According to ESPN, the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: Big Ten coaches expressed their frustration for the ongoing signal

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Speaker 1: stealing investigation at Michigan. They had a video conference call

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Speaker 1: with the commissioner Commissioner of the Big Ten, Tony Petiti

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Speaker 1: ninety minutes and Jim Harbaugh wasn't on the conference call.

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Speaker 1: According to sources familiar with the call, a chorus of

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Speaker 1: voices encouraged the commissioner of the Big Ten to take

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Speaker 1: action against Michigan in a call that was described as

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Speaker 1: both intense and emotional. Collectively, the coaches want the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten to act right now, A source familiar with the

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Speaker 1: call told Pete famil, we are waiting on. What are

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Speaker 1: we waiting on? We know what happened. They're looking at.

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Speaker 1: Coaches use the words tainted and fraudulent and unprecedented on

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Speaker 1: this conference call to describe Michigan's signal stealing scheme. Much

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Speaker 1: of the call, according to sources, was coaches explaining to

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Speaker 1: the commissioner both how it worked and how it impacted

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Speaker 1: them in their programs. Okay, do you think that this

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Speaker 1: impacted voters with Michigan and where they're ranked? Now? What

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Speaker 1: are they third? It's Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan. Does it

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Speaker 1: affect JJ McCarthy's Heisman Trophy campaign because he was the

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Speaker 1: leading candidate for a little while, maybe a week or so,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Pennix going up against Caleb Williams this weekend

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Speaker 1: is going to be a big deal. But I'm wondering,

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Speaker 1: and as I said when this first broke, College Football

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Speaker 1: Playoff Committee, they don't care about this that if Michigan

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Speaker 1: is you know, wins the Big Ten and they're one

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Speaker 1: of the top four teams, then they're playing for the

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Speaker 1: national title. They don't care. NCAA cares. But this is

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Speaker 1: really on the Big Ten. And that's what my source

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Speaker 1: said when this happened. This is up to the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten if you want to look at sportsmanship and whatever

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Speaker 1: language they had in there. But if you're the new

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Speaker 1: commissioner of the Big Ten, this is this is your moment.

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Speaker 1: This is we're gonna, you know, take a stand. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let the rest of the Big Ten coaches known

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Speaker 1: that I mean business. I'm going to protect the integrity

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Speaker 1: or you want to make sure that you get one

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Speaker 1: of those teams international title playoff picture Yeah point.

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Speaker 4: I have a two part question.

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Speaker 5: Do the other coaches on this conference call in the

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Speaker 5: Big Ten want Jim Harbaugh punished slash out of the

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Speaker 5: conference because of integrity or because it'd be nice to

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Speaker 5: have Jim Harbor to the conference to make Michigan a

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Speaker 5: lesser team to beat. Second part, if you run the conference,

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Speaker 5: why would you want to do anything to help remove

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Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh from your conference.

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Speaker 4: He does a lot to make that conference relevant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if anything gets done. It all

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Speaker 1: sounds like it's really really serious and people are really upset.

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Speaker 1: But I and I get it, But I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: How did this guy get on the sidelines at Central

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Speaker 1: Michigan with Central Michigan gear on in a hat, sunglasses

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Speaker 1: at night and his is go to and nobody now

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Speaker 1: you can see him. There's a moment on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: where a player runs by and into the stands and

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Speaker 1: he ducks his head down. He knows he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on camera. He ducks his head down. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that he just went rogue like nobody knew about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that that's what you're gonna act like I

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Speaker 1: didn't know he was doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would be less surprising if you just heard like, no,

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Speaker 2: it's just for TikTok. They go, oh, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's a TikTok thing.

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Speaker 3: That's that's funny, that's real funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe that's maybe that's what you say, Like,

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Speaker 1: what were you doing?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to have fun? Man, isn't it funny?

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Speaker 1: Like I stuck on these sidelines made it seem like

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Speaker 1: I was stealing signs here? But all these coaches when

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Speaker 1: you start talking about, you know, fraudulent and you're telling

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Speaker 1: that to the commissioner, and Jim Harball is not on

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Speaker 1: the call. He hung up, you know, like he knew

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Speaker 1: that they wanted to talk to the you know, commissioner

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Speaker 1: about this, and they have this video conference call. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to I'd love to see a copy of that,

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Speaker 1: if somebody had some of that video conference call. You

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Speaker 1: got to get this guy out of here.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Tom, Sometimes you don't want to take the stand

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Speaker 8: in your own defense, you know, as an Atturny'll be like,

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Speaker 8: you know, what's better off?

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Speaker 6: Just let them let am play out.

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Speaker 9: Don't stand anything.

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Speaker 1: But how do you I wonder what Harball is thinking

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Speaker 1: with all this that you know and now the story

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Speaker 1: comes out that these guys are all trashing.

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Speaker 4: You and on the on the conference call.

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Speaker 5: Do you think a Harbaught actually hung up or did

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Speaker 5: the all right, guys, see you and then just sitting

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Speaker 5: there listening.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe he could get his sideline sleuth. Oh that

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Speaker 1: he could have tapped into that and be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have a stenographer there, you're writing down all these

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Speaker 1: things they're saying about Harbaugh. Oh boy, Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know where it goes. If it goes, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it goes anywhere this season. But are you are you

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Speaker 1: going to punish Jim hard? How do you punish him?

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Speaker 1: How severe would it be? And when would the investigation

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Speaker 1: be over? Because it felt like this was being hand

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Speaker 1: delivered to the media. Somebody was disgruntled, and I mentioned

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Speaker 1: it might be alumni. Don't have any sources on that,

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Speaker 1: but I felt like somebody is saying, I got all

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Speaker 1: the goods, I got everything you need here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna just parcel it out here a little bit and

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Speaker 1: let this build a little bit. All right, Just go

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Speaker 1: around the room. What we learned on the program? Todd,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, what did you learn today?

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Speaker 8: It wasn't the question posed to him, but Russ Tucker

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Speaker 8: would rather be Julian Edelman living in Boston than Randy

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Speaker 8: Moss living anywhere else in the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's That wasn't the question.

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Speaker 6: Not the question.

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Speaker 1: The question was would you rather have Julian Edelman's career,

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss and all see O'Connor.

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Speaker 3: Russ Tucker's service is currently available.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for two million dollars. He'll coach your team. Marvin,

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Speaker 1: what did you learn today.

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Speaker 6: That you want to do voiceover work?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that it would be nice in a world.

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Speaker 1: You can also pick up my book where I do

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Speaker 1: the audio version portion of that er. You know I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hear my voice late at night if you want to.

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Speaker 4: Pauli Steve Alfred had to walk home from the Bloomington Airport.

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Speaker 1: What we learned brought to you by the world's best

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Speaker 1: thoroughbreds breaking from the starting gate for the fortieth running

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Speaker 1: of the Breeders' Cup World Championships. It's sent to Anita Park.

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Speaker 1: Tune in USA and NBC November third and fourth to

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Speaker 1: catch all the action. Thanks for your phone calls, emails, tweets,

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Speaker 1: all your support. We're gonna do it again tomorrow. It'll

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Speaker 1: be a meet Friday. We'll talk to you then. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us.