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Speaker 4: You want the.

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Speaker 3: But did you see the Deontay Johnson I mean he

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Speaker 4: Create just an space. I got a little Dashavey.

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Speaker 2: He had gone seven hundred and seventy one snaps without

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Speaker 2: It's what the Patriots don't have for insans. They have

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Speaker 2: They were lying their coaches to do everything. On defense,

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Speaker 2: he got some special players though, and Alex Heismith, I'm

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Speaker 3: And it's true they was kind of upside down almost

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Speaker 3: I thought, if he's getting off like this in quarter

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Speaker 3: But yeah, to your point, you know, they swung help

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Speaker 4: Boy, they are one ugly team.

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Speaker 3: This team has no chance and I'm not saying in

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Speaker 2: But is a good young player and a naked already

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Speaker 2: a chance right, He's a concern, is picket because I

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Speaker 2: these Steelers, and I'm forced to because everybody else is

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Speaker 3: Fan base doing its impression of Philadelphia Eagles fans and

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Speaker 3: It is strange. But you know, I think Pickett is

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Speaker 3: the is the guy who has a chance to as

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Speaker 3: you say, it's the premise is not carry this team,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen the Steelers to the playoffs? Can he Pickett

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Speaker 3: If you if you know, if you feel like this

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Speaker 2: Right the Dolphins fan unless they Loday night, When are we.

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Speaker 3: Going to talk about the fact that you are exactly

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Speaker 3: more attractive version of him. Maybe we've got to put

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Speaker 3: I think that this is a compliment to you and

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Speaker 3: But I mean, so Dolphins fans are happy. Texans fans

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Speaker 3: good and brighter days are ahead. And maybe now Titans

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Speaker 4: You know who? Chiefs fans probably not.

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Speaker 3: They know that that team hasn't played very well and

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of enjoying the moment, and not

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Speaker 3: there just isn't as much splash. Obviously, empirically that's true,

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Speaker 3: exactly what he's done. Every other time he's been putting

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Speaker 3: They either get whipped once to three times a year.

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Speaker 3: Lately they get annihilated by an outclassed Otherwise, every game

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're five and three if they were in

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Speaker 2: They're about as likely as anyone. If I had to

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Speaker 2: Am I Is that right? Yeah? They would be.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm counting.

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Speaker 2: I'm counting Dolphins and Bills, they're both in right, I'm

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Speaker 2: because you look, you got here's who's coming up for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. You finished with the tough three games, Bengals,

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Speaker 2: Those are a lot of winnable games, and I think

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Speaker 2: they're gonna get better the one thing they gotta do,

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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna take a break quickly and then

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Speaker 2: talk Titans.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Dan was right, he said, oh it's you and check.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a honk fest. He was

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Speaker 2: They can't be a team that when they get the

435
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: ball back with two h six to go and the

436
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: other team has three timeouts just calls, you know, loses

437
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: two on their first run and calls two more runs. Anyways,

438
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: they just say, like, we don't even trust our quarterback

439
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: to throw the ball one time. It's just Mike Tomlin

440
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 2: is great, but he's and he's one of the last

441
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: coaches that'll ever be dragged into the twenty first century

442
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: in terms of like going for it on fourth down

443
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: or making aggressive decisions like that. But he was better

444
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: when he had bet when a real quarterback. At some

445
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: point they will have to make decisions like throw the

446
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: ball and.

447
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: Not just be bad.

448
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: Let's Titans a whole other drive and a chance to

449
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: go win the game, and let's not even try to

450
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 2: play football here because we're so afraid of Kenny Pickett

451
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: and they were.

452
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the call there on third nine.

453
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 3: First of all, they have thrown in that in a

454
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 3: similar spot this year, which now they could have.

455
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: Fed on first down two because it was like you

456
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: would have had the two minute one. I just I

457
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: fully expected them to run the ball three times in

458
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: punt there and it was like you weren't even burning

459
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: all the Titans timeouts. He still would add one. So

460
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the.

461
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 3: Ball there at mid right, I agree with you. Of

462
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 3: course at midfield, third, nine, third and ten whatever it

463
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 3: was in that spot, there's no danger in not just

464
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: throwing the ball but taking a deep shot. You know

465
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: that you're sacked. You know, if you get sacked, okay,

466
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: you punt it away. Just you know, take care of

467
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: the ball, make sure that there's not someone about the

468
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: blind side. You ate and you will be all right.

469
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 3: And if you if you're on cork it, throw it

470
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: as far as you can ken throw it as far

471
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: as you can. Fella, it gets picked at the you

472
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: know at the ten, all right, it's a punt.

473
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: So he just he just wanted to get rid of

474
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: the time out. And it's like that's very Mike Rabel

475
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 2: would have done the same thing. These two teams watching

476
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 2: them are mirror images. We're gonna take a quick break. Wait, wait, wait,

477
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: I just want to say this. I say, I say

478
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: you're on after the break, shot. I understand, but I

479
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: want to say.

480
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: I want to say here and now, I want to

481
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: chat and Hans Us, I say we go four and

482
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: a half hours or shame the devil.

483
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: I'll say you let's go, Neil, Dawn, what do you

484
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 4: think about that? All night? Me and the ball stream

485
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: come true.

486
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll keep talking even after we stop hitting record.

487
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: We love to honk. All right, take quick break, we'll

488
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: get come back. All right, we're back I for the

489
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: first time this season. Actually just gotten Emica, my beautiful

490
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: wife to and my daughter Ellis are both peeking out

491
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: of the main house. I'm in the garage and they're

492
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: They're just giving me a shush. They're like, you are

493
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: screaming and yelling. You're like the whole neighborhood can hear you.

494
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: But I think this is.

495
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 3: Just me getting Tomlin turns every game into a knuckleball

496
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: damn ashek turns every conversation into a shout fest.

497
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 4: Welcome to it.

498
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I I would anyways, Hans, this is right.

499
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Once spend as much time on the Titans.

500
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 5: But actually, when you're gonna talk about the don't you

501
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 5: see Zach Wilson. You see he's gonna be our hero.

502
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 5: He's gonna carry us until we get the A Rod.

503
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 5: Don't count us out of the playoff picture yet.

504
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Boll No, no one is. No one is Will Levis.

505
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: He was the biggest story in this game to me,

506
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: just because he's new and I've seen the Steelers team

507
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: and I think they're building. And I thought this Titans team,

508
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: I never count them out because they're the Titans and

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: they're three and five. I don't even count them out

510
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: for the seven seed either right now, because I think

511
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: they have something. I watched that first game and I thought, Wow,

512
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: he did some really next level things. Not just those

513
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, but he was like getting to the second

514
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: read and when pressure was there, he was making good decisions.

515
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: He was like getting rid of the ball. He was

516
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: looking like a tough guy. Okay, let's let's see it again. Now,

517
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: he's got to be on a short week. He's gonna

518
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: be in Pittsburgh. He didn't have two weeks to prepare

519
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: for Atlanta, and he played as well or better. And

520
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: you can point out a few misthrows in the second half,

521
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: and he got picked off there at the end when

522
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: he's you know, trying to make it play he's got

523
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: to try to go for the end zone there, and

524
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: that was a nice play, like kwant Alexander, But man,

525
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: he looked like a dude. He looked like a dude.

526
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: That's just like I'm gonna be watching him play for

527
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: the Titans most every week for the next six years,

528
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: eight years. However, whatever it turns out to be, he

529
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 2: just looks like a dude because it doesn't seem too

530
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: big for him. He's clearly talented at throwing the ball

531
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: down the field and the game isn't going that fast.

532
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: He's processing it all pretty quick, which I think was

533
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: one of the big questions about him coming out of Kentucky.

534
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: And he's obviously athletically very talented. So I could go

535
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: through like which plays I loved, like the play where

536
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: he threw it across his body and Hopkins actually dropped it,

537
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: which was almost like, wow, why are you trying that pass?

538
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: But it worked.

539
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: It was a Mahomesyan type pass, but also some just

540
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: like regular old third and nine, like whole shots over

541
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 2: his zone defense. He looks good and I think he.

542
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: Made I mean just so yeah, I know that the

543
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: weird are angles and you know, throwing across basically two

544
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: yards behind the line of scrimmage, all the way across

545
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: the field from one sideline to the other, or just about.

546
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 4: Get your attention.

547
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, he just made some real good strong arm

548
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: throws throughout the night. And the other thing we didn't

549
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: even see tonight was him taking off, which he can do.

550
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: He's a big physical runner when he wants to be.

551
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: You know, I've told you this before and you've poo

552
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: pooed it. You've you've played skeptic to Damashek when I've

553
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: claimed unironically, I'm a QB whisper. Listen, I can't be

554
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: a draft guru because I can't analyze the left guard

555
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: from the MAC team who might go in the fifth round.

556
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: But with QBS, no one has a better track record

557
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: than Damnashk. Maybe it is good. Now, Okay, I've had

558
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: my missus. I had the late Ryan Mallett, that's the

559
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: one you always point to. But I said, you can

560
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 3: find it on social media. I suspect I said three

561
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: years ago, no, two and a half years ago. I said,

562
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: this guy it can touch, who transferred from Penn State,

563
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: Will Levis is the real deal and he's going to

564
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: be dynamite in the NFL. So I mean, I don't

565
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: know that I'm right two games in, but he does

566
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: look like the real deer.

567
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: Here's the question.

568
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: All I know is you remember whatever slights anyone sends

569
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: your way, even for a football take, like giving you

570
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: grief about Yes, the late Ryan Mallett rest in peace.

571
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Of course, of course I do. You know, I don't

572
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: care what any.

573
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't care. I don't remember. My

574
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: brain is is uh, it's made of cheese. I don't know.

575
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean I remember some of the football stuff.

576
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: But thank you for not condescending to me, because you

577
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: could have put yourself in a better light by saying,

578
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 3: like I have better things to worry about, you petulant ass.

579
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: You know that's that's how you should be.

580
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'll certainly remember some slates, but it

581
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: has to be real personal. It wouldn't be a football

582
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: Have I ever slighted you? No, not that I remember.

583
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: You know now presents a tough exterior outside.

584
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: But.

585
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: I am He's a og tough guy, that's for sure.

586
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: That's how everybody knows me.

587
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: They wait got a quarterback. They can't go back to

588
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill the rest of this season.

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 4: Is that will Money Clint Eastwood in unforgiven?

590
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: Or is that Dave damashek I can't tell the difference

591
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: both rugged souls. That's that's right. I'm a tough yeah,

592
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: of course. And you know it's funny because I've been

593
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 3: saying since I don't know, February March April, what are

594
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: the Titans doing holding on to Ryan Tannehill at this point?

595
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: Maybe it was post draft, but either way, to me,

596
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: the guy who instead of Sam Darnold Kyle Shanahan should

597
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: have gotten Ryan Tannehill.

598
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: Do you imagine if you plug him in right now?

599
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: That was when I assumed that Brock Purdy wasn't possibly

600
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: going to be ready to go by week one. I

601
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: mean he had major arm surgery, we thought, or but

602
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: still Tannehill is the solve or would have been for

603
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: several teams. I don't know the state of his health

604
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: right now, but if he had been one hundred percent

605
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: a week ago, do you suspect he would be on

606
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: a contending team right now? Imagine him if you could

607
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: have just said, if you're the Vikings, okay we don't

608
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: have Kirk, come on up, Ryan Tannehill they would have

609
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: been just fine in that NFC.

610
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: I think they would have had a chance to chase

611
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: a playoff spot.

612
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: They would have been the team I think that would

613
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: have bothered maybe a fourth round pick. And I think

614
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: the Titans, if they had seen this first game from

615
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Levis and then now certainly too, would have been.

616
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, do it.

617
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: The thing is and it's a reminder, man, the preseason

618
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: can be a lie. I mean so often is, but

619
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: it can be a lie in the in the opposite

620
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: direction too, because I believe all the reporters and the

621
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: way that Rabel talked and the coaches, it wasn't just

622
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: that Will Levis looked awful in the preseason. His training

623
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: camp was reportedly awful, like he just when he was

624
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: in the joint practice. It was actually against the Vikings,

625
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: so maybe they maybe they weren't too high too high

626
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: on Tannehill, maybe they saw something I don't even know

627
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: that like he could barely operate what was going on.

628
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: It was just he wasn't ready for it. But you

629
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: do kind of forget, well, that was eight weeks ago

630
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: and training camp is only four weeks long, and he's

631
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: had all that time in the building to continue to

632
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: get better, and the regular season is just a totally

633
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: different animal than being good in practice every day too

634
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: at training camp. So who knows, Maybe he's stunk at

635
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: practice the last couple of weeks too. I don't even know.

636
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: And he just knows how to play. But whatever it is,

637
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: everyone said Malik Willis was out dueling him every practice,

638
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: practice after practice, and in the preseason when we got

639
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: to see it a little bit like, oh yeah, I

640
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: mean he's totally lost. And now you know, he looks

641
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: as good as any rookie over the last two years

642
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: in terms of his first two seas.

643
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be the bunch?

644
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: It really is wild, the the you know, the certitude

645
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: that we provide, what we gave you know. Obviously Daniel

646
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: Jeremiah you remember him.

647
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's the guy that said Darnold was the

648
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: number one player in the singing him.

649
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: You better be careful with yourself. I don't know.

650
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't know who outweighs who over there at the

651
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: NFL at this point.

652
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Oh I think I know. I think it's the one

653
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: on the NFL Draft.

654
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: Well, then keep on keep on flapping your gums. He'll

655
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: make a call. I want the guy, I want the boss.

656
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: He's out, but.

657
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: The I don't remember what we were talking oh with

658
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 3: with Okay, yeah, that was a swinging miss from dj DA.

659
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: I do remember having that.

660
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: Kind of sash. I feel bad now, you know, I

661
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: do bring you know, I do? I did. I've always

662
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: been mad that I didn't ask Justin Herbert if he

663
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: ever brought it up that, you know, because Jeremiah is

664
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: always around the Chargers that he had Herbert like ranked

665
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: twentieth behind. This would be a fun question to ask

666
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: behind this guy Ross Blacklock, who I you know? It

667
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: was like, I don't even know if he's in the

668
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: league right now.

669
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: Here's my question for you.

670
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: Do you think now this may sound like a hot take,

671
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: and perhaps that's what it stands as and the hyperbole

672
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: and whatever else, can you make a case when why

673
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: is that quarterback playing so well? What's going on with

674
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: Jared Goff? This big resurrection from this guy? I have

675
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: long said, if you know my lament, you may recall

676
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't remember when it was eight ten years ago,

677
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: that how is it possible in a world of seven

678
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: billion people, we can't find thirty two people that can

679
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: halfway decently play quarterback?

680
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: In pro football.

681
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: I think it's largely been solved QB saturation injuries aside,

682
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: the injuries happened, But there are thirty to thirty five

683
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: guys that you could throw in there. I suspect though,

684
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: they're like, how come that guy in the fourth round

685
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: worked out when the first round who everybody was in on.

686
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: Agree or disagree, it's not the offensive lines, not the

687
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: pass catcher.

688
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not even the quarterback.

689
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: The most valuable thing you can have on your team

690
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three is a heady offensive coordinator. Is

691
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson more valuable than any any player on that

692
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: Lion's roster? Maybe Kyle Shanahan. What's the voodoo he can

693
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: make Brock Purty work? And people say, hey, don't kidknop

694
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: brock Purdy. You don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,

695
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean I can kind of take some shots at

696
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: brock Purdy when every other guy who's ever played for

697
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan is good too, Right, I mean you see

698
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: what I'm getting at.

699
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: Respond.

700
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: I guess I disagree because I They'll still think that

701
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: eight to ten quarterbacks that maybe transcend that are more valuable. Now, No,

702
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: eight to ten, three to six at tops Lamar. You know, okay,

703
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: I would even you.

704
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: Know, we've already seen Lamar can't do it if he

705
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: now he's Lamar Is, I mean he transcends it. I mean,

706
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: how many of these coordinators make that big a difference.

707
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: You might be a difference as Joe Burrow or Josh Allen.

708
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Tim Kelly is not one of those guys.

709
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Do you know who Tim Kelly is? He's the offensive

710
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: coordinator in the play caller. Nobody knows who Tim Kelly is.

711
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: But I can see right off the bat, Will Levis

712
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: is a dude. And actually you could see Ryan Tannaan

713
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: when he got to Tennessee and kind of matured in

714
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: his career. He was enough of a dude that the

715
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: play action scheme they ran helped him look like statistically

716
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: EPA wise the top five quarterback link. No one believed that,

717
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: but he was good enough. And so that's that, to me,

718
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: is still more valuable than there's only so many of

719
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: these great play colors.

720
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess there are only so many

721
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: of those qbs that are actual drivers who overcome mediocrity

722
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: around them.

723
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: Everybody else is sold as being that.

724
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: But they're only you know three maybe you know you

725
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: could boil it down to Mahomes in Burrow and Josh Allen,

726
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: is you crazy?

727
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: Howie long Allen, Jalen Hurts whatever? Uh.

728
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: I'd even throw those names you just throwed, would not?

729
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: You could not just plug them into any team.

730
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: No, But if they're in a good system with a

731
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: good enough coach, then then they'll be Then they'll be

732
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: a difference maker. I think that the Titans have a chance.

733
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm not putting him there either. I think another problem

734
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: people do is like all the people just assume after

735
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: two games, okay, like we were right about Levis and

736
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: you guys are wrong about Bryce Younger this year, Like, okay,

737
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: let's give it a little bit of time, but he

738
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: looks like a dude who's gonna be around. I feel

739
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: pretty confident after two weeks of that, and that's great news.

740
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up in this Titans team. Quietly. Their

741
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: offensive line has been better this year. They improve from

742
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: catastrophically bad for the last two to three years. And

743
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: I've been saying this this year, like if you watch

744
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: the Titans game, they're actually just like okay, or maybe

745
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: even slightly below average. Or maybe average. I don't know,

746
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: but it's it's huge when you go from the worst

747
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: in the league to like, okay, it gives you a

748
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: chance to grow. Nucas playing pretty well. I like the

749
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: way Derrick Henry ran. They're like, they're a receiver short,

750
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: They're a little short, they're deep. Isn't quite good enough

751
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: for a defensive minded head coach, and they've put a

752
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: lot of resources there, so they probably won't get it done.

753
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: But their schedule is very easy, and they're the Titans,

754
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: so I think they sell that encourage and I think

755
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: they might be in the mix here by the end.

756
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: I think that's true, and that has a lot to

757
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: do with the mediocrity around them. I mean, you think

758
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: about the AFC North and all those games still upcoming

759
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: between each other. Obviously they're going to cannibalize each other,

760
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: so that's going to knock them down. Who are you,

761
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: I mean the Jags. You know, the Jags are the

762
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: team that legitimizes the South. Potentially they may end up

763
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: with a number.

764
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: Of Jags are a real team, Jackson.

765
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: I agree, I'm not knocking them.

766
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, but you know, the Texans are are fun,

767
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 3: but are they definitely going to play out the rest

768
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: of the season here and be a threat week in

769
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: and week out.

770
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: Maybe not.

771
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: I bet there's a there's a chance for the Titans,

772
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: to your point, with an easy schedule to be a factor.

773
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: We thought in August, I assume you would have when

774
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: you looked at the AFC. I said, more hyperbole, possibly

775
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: from Dave, but I said, I don't think in the

776
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: Super Bowl era there has been as loaded a conference

777
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: top to bottom. I don't mean high end teams. I

778
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: mean one through sixteen that you would look at and

779
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: say like, well, definitely that team, and that that you

780
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: could cobble together a list of four teams that definitely

781
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: weren't going to the playoffs. There were so many good

782
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: teams that you thought had a chance, and now even

783
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: five six weeks and you were like, that team is

784
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: not nearly as good as I thought they were. And

785
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: so based on the sea of mediocrity in which all

786
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: these teams have ended up swimming in, I don't you know,

787
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: Steelers are fine, Browns may get in. You know, Chargers

788
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: I have I have a hunch, Well, this is a

789
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: big one, almost an elimination game in New York.

790
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: This weekend right between Zach.

791
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: Wilson and that.

792
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: But all right, well you better get red hot after

793
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: that if you're either one of those teams when you

794
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: have to play the Bills and Dolphins again, or if

795
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: you're the Larder you still have the Chiefs and you

796
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: know the Broncos are playing a wee bit better.

797
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, at the Titans have are only a negative twelve

798
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: point differential in the year that Steelers are negative thirty

799
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: the Titans. There's nothing better as a fan than feeling like, ooh,

800
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: we might have a quarterback. I don't think the Steelers

801
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: fans feel that way after too. You think that one

802
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: consolation for the Titans they lost the game. But I

803
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: feel if I was a Titans fan, I would be

804
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: if I was justin Graver, the old Grave Digger, I'd

805
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: be very excited about the future and maybe even this

806
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: season they could.

807
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Make Grave Digger was a nice person. He's still alive, but.

808
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrating Texas Rangers winning the World Series. He's over

809
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: there working at Fox and he's covering it live, sees

810
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: his team win it live. It was like my first

811
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl when I saw Randy Moss catch the game

812
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: winning touchdown with just over two minutes to go to

813
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: cap off the first undefeated season in NFL history for

814
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: the Patriots. I want to wait, wait, let's get back

815
00:38:59,800 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: to it.

816
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 4: Let's get back to that in one second.

817
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: The one thing I want to say to the Titans

818
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: fans and any football fan if the game didn't go

819
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: your way on Thursday night, or even if you're a

820
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: Steelers fan and feeling frustrated, because this is the way

821
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 3: you have to say even after a loss, like Dave

822
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Matt Cannada is nay good, dude, they got fired at

823
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: Dave Tomlin. The standard ain't the standard, nay more. We

824
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: don't win no playoff games, ny more, all that kind

825
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: of stuff. But you know, we all just bore witness

826
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: to history. Eight v eight Kenny Pickett or number eight

827
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: against Will Levis Number eight. Now, of course, not enough

828
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: to replace the all time greatest eight quarterback versus eight

829
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: quarterback matchup, Aikman versus Steve Young, but this is still noteworthy.

830
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll look back.

831
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 3: On this one in decade, in a decade from now

832
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: and say, you know, what's time to amend the Aikman

833
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: Steve Young thing. You know, so we saw a little

834
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: bit of history. But now, speaking of history, what do

835
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: you think about the Patriots maybe trading Bill Belichick to who?

836
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 4: You haven't heard that.

837
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: That's the rumor this week is at the end of

838
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: the season, they're gonna trade him to the Washington comedies.

839
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think that's where Lombardi ended

840
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: his career. I hope that doesn't happen for Belichick. I

841
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: remember Lombardy was mediocre and then more or less. I

842
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: gotta check, I gotta check the facts. But yeah, I

843
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: think he almost kind of died on the job, like

844
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: he quit and like it wasn't going you know, it

845
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: wasn't going well. Yeah, it's unceremonious. I wouldn't want to

846
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: see that happen, but it's pain good for you.

847
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I like you.

848
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: That's that you're a man of loyalty and honor, and

849
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: you wouldn't because a lot. I'm sure you've heard Patriots fans.

850
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: They're not very happy at all about what's going on.

851
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: I think the big winner, do you agree with this?

852
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: The big winner of the last three years and this

853
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: season for sure, is Tom Brady because now it's just

854
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: been laid bare. The debate that went on for at

855
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: least the last fifteen years. Like who's what do you

856
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: think tom Brady or Belichick? Belichick or Tom Brady. It's

857
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: pretty obvious that the guy left went to play for

858
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: Bruce Arians in Florida somewhere, got drunk in his mid forties,

859
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: and won the Super Bowl, while Bill Belichick's scuffles along.

860
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Funny how, I'm not saying he's a bad coach, and

861
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: I certainly think that these people in New England saying, like, man,

862
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: maybe it's time for the old man to move on.

863
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: He gets as much rope as he wants. He delivered

864
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: you all those Super Bowls.

865
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: He writes his own ticket, right, I'm with that. I agree,

866
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: and I've never liked that argument. Of course, it's the

867
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: player that matters more, but it's the combination, and they

868
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: were a beautiful combination. And yeah, I do like Bomani

869
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: Jones's take that, like he did win a Super Bowl

870
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: without Tom Brady. It was Tom Brady's second year in

871
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: the league, when Tom Brady was like the twenty second

872
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the and I was like, that's a good.

873
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: Point, nah, But then that goes back to where we

874
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: started twenty or thirty minutes ago. That when your quarterback,

875
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: when you find the guy and he's still on his

876
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: rookie deal, now you're in the sweet spot. Do you

877
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: know the boss that even in the age of Tom

878
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: Brady over the last I forget what the number is.

879
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: I think it's since the start of the millennium. If

880
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: I counted this right. You know, I'm not a numbers guy,

881
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: but I think I counted this right. I think it's

882
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: forty nine or fifty one percent of all Super Bowl

883
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: starting qbs were on their rookie deals over in the

884
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: last twenty three to twenty four super Bowls. I mean,

885
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: that's in the age of Brady, when he was going

886
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: to Super Bowls in his fifteenth year and whatever. So

887
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: that's going to offset those skew those numbers in favor

888
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: of the Vets anyway, and despite that half the QBS,

889
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: it's inarguable that that's where you want to be. Obviously,

890
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: the trick is to actually have the guy and not

891
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: try to delude yourself into thinking because you used the

892
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: first round pick on.

893
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 4: Him, we got to make him work. At year four,

894
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 4: we're sticking with it.

895
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, there's Matthew Stafford just won the Super

896
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: Bowl Patrick Mahomes just won the suit. I don't know.

897
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: You can't tell me. It's a disadvantage to have like

898
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: one of the best quarterbacks no matter what you're paying them.

899
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts didn't win it last year, but he played

900
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: well enough it. You just need a great quarterback.

901
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm trying to work.

902
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: Why can't And by the way, Vince Lombardi, God rest

903
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: his soul. One of the greatest ever, maybe the greatest. Oh,

904
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: I have another hot tak. I haven't talked to that

905
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: whole run with the Packers. He was emotionally exhausted. He

906
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: sat out one year. He couldn't stay on the sideline.

907
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: So he went to Washington and he went seven five.

908
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: And who knows his history, good for I'm checking it.

909
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: He went to Washington, went seven to five and two. Well,

910
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: the part that I was checking on, unfortunately, was the

911
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 2: circumstances surrounding his death. And I believe he only coached

912
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: that one year and had to step down because he

913
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: got cancer. And he did passed right, But.

914
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 4: He was that People think he just yeah, he just walked.

915
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: He walked off the field at the Orange Bowl after

916
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl two, after vanquishing Daryl Lamonica and company and

917
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: and went off into the sunset. In fact, as you

918
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: point out, yes, people don't know that extra chapter of

919
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: his coaching life. You know what, while we're talking about Washington,

920
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: I have one more hot take.

921
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: I want to tell you real quick.

922
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Proving hands is so right here.

923
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: I want to do. That's what I want to do.

924
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: I'm having a good time. I heard we're going till dawn.

925
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: We're settle in.

926
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: Man, we got like six eight hours to go till

927
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: sun up. Now listen, dig this. Here's my big one Belichick.

928
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: Who is he the best? Don Shula overrated? Our pal

929
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: handsome Hank Hodgson will agree with that. The diehard Dolphins

930
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: fan boy. What a wonderful I'm.

931
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: Not accepting this as a premise. He's not overrated.

932
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah he is.

933
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why he Okay, he makes the

934
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: paradigm shift from we're a run team, we're a run

935
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: team at Zonka and Mercury Morris and Jim Kick and

936
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 3: Bob Greasy is the most the most fraudulent, the most

937
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: fraudulent Hall of Famer that exists. And when people like

938
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: Eli Manning better not get into the Hall of Fame,

939
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: and so on whenever people saw many names like Bob

940
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: Greasey's in the Hall of Fame. He threw five passes

941
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: in a playoff game and what were we talking about?

942
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: I think he threw four passes in a full playoff

943
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: game once. Talk about a passenger. Anyhow, he had Marino

944
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: for all those years, got the one Super Bowl with

945
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: him because he blew the personnel side of it. But anyway,

946
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: Bill Walsh is the real deal. And there you know,

947
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: it's the best Super Bowl coach. Joe Gibbs, that's it.

948
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: He's the only one who did it with non Hall

949
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: of famers, and.

950
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: He did it three times.

951
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing, right, And then he went to a

952
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: completely different sport that most of the football populist doesn't

953
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: care about, but built like a dominant franchise as dominant

954
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: in that entirely different sport, which to me, I'm no

955
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: NASCAR expert. My son likes it, and it's like that's

956
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: I think that just proves what a great coach he is.

957
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: Anyone that could possibly have pulled that off and then

958
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: done it in another it's like it's un isn't it crazy?

959
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: The week that Bob Knight passes away, I knew this,

960
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: and I'd forgotten. Nobody was brought up in all the

961
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: memorials to Bob Knight, but Bill Parcells was on Bob

962
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: Knight's army basketball coaching staff. That's wild, right, But you

963
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: know Bo Jackson, I mean, Joe Gibbs is Bo Jackson

964
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: of coaching. To your to your point right, I mean

965
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: he left the highest level of football and went over

966
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: and did stock car racing and then and then took

967
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: that over too.

968
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: That's amazing he did.

969
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean he won a Super Bowl with Mark Rippin

970
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: and with Doug Williams and with Joe thisman three times.

971
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: He did that, four super bowls in what was that

972
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: nine ten years?

973
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: Remarkable. He loaded it NFC.

974
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: Return, you know, to the Washington team and go to

975
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs, I believe with Mark Brunel. I don't know

976
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: if anyone remembers that, but.

977
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 4: I do remember that. You're right.

978
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Good for you.

979
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: I thought that you picked up on football around like

980
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: two thousand two.

981
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: But good for that. Look, well, that is that's past that.

982
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: I I was always a fan, but it wasn't my job.

983
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: Now now we get paid to just honk and make

984
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: my family yell at me for being too loud. Late.

985
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: Now your time to keep it down for the For

986
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: the next seven and a half hours, we're gonna we're

987
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: gonna whisper because it's nighttime now.

988
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: Dave Danisek is the host of the Minus three podcast.

989
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: They've Got a fun a little like fifteen minute pregame

990
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: at four pm on Fridays. What is that? You got

991
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: the extra points? It's part of the extra points you got.

992
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: You got a lot cooking over there. You got our

993
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: old friend from NFL Media, Eddie Spaghetti with you. It's

994
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: a lot of that.

995
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: He's Eddie Spaghetti is in his usual spot behind the glass,

996
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: chiming in as as he's wont to do. And Kevin

997
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: Hanch very funny, deeply knowledgeable sports.

998
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: Fan, big comedy writer and all that. But but.

999
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: iHeart Boston sports fans. My Patriots based opinions have been

1000
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: are well worn. If you listen to Minus three, I'm

1001
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: throwing some of those at you, But yeah, listen.

1002
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: With all the responss of your opinions eventually become well worn.

1003
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: The good ones, the good ones, you got to reuse them.

1004
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: This was you know, your old friend Emma would always

1005
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: point that out from her favorite times of the year

1006
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: when you'd bring out the old.

1007
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 4: That's right, yeah, most overused bits. I think she called

1008
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 4: it all right.

1009
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: Listen, I have three or four thoughts in my head

1010
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 3: and I've I've leaned on them for the last three decades.

1011
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: It's it's worked out halfway decently. But yes, it occurs

1012
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: to me. It did occur to me over summer. I

1013
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: don't know who decided that pregame shows needed to be

1014
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: more than a half hour, and then they went to

1015
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: an hour, and then they went to three hours and

1016
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: the four hours, and now they're all about like and I.

1017
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: Like the feel good story.

1018
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: You know, you know me, Dave one of the great

1019
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: impaths of society. I like to hear people's nice stories

1020
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: and their journeys about like.

1021
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: He may be a superstar now, but he was born

1022
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: without a head.

1023
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: And then you know, like you hear those stories and

1024
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: they feel good and the nice music.

1025
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: I love it.

1026
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: I just don't need them right before the game. Tell

1027
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: me those on Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Before the game, just

1028
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: tell me who's gonna win by how much, who's gonna

1029
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: have a good game.

1030
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: We do it all in fifteen minutes.

1031
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: Then you can get out the door and Live Your

1032
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: Life fifteen minutes the minus three pregame show. It's a breeze,

1033
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: lots of fun. It's a little bit if you're old

1034
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: school enough, it's a little bit like the Shame Report

1035
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: projecting ahead for the week over fifteen good times.

1036
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: I did love the same report, and I like that

1037
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: idea that it's quick. We don't need all the time.

1038
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad that the pregame shows are keeping

1039
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: a lot of our friends, and yeah, this industry happy.

1040
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: That's fine, but I'm with you. I need it to

1041
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: be sure for newer listeners of the show, and I

1042
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: find more and more. It's crazy, you know. Of course

1043
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: it happens. Listeners drop off, new listeners, come on. I've

1044
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: been told by many listeners, like they started listening after

1045
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: Wes was on the show. Like, of course we haven't

1046
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: some plenty of new listeners. It's been a few years.

1047
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: That sort of blows my mind. But we love hearing

1048
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: about him and learning that you know and and stuff

1049
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: like that. And it's like, so people might not know,

1050
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: you know that the first the very first iteration was

1051
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: the atl Debate club Mark Sessler. Dan hansis on the

1052
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: back of the Dave Danischek football.

1053
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: Flames because they break out the flame throwers. The flames

1054
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: would make the scene flame on.

1055
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: You know.

1056
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: So we owe a debt to Dave, but not just

1057
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: for that, just for his friendship and helping the whole

1058
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: thing go at the NFL. And now over with the

1059
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: Minus three podcasts, it's been it's been a pleasure. It's

1060
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 2: been a thin slice of heaven.

1061
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: David, all right, I guess we can. We'll do this

1062
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: in parts, but we are going to be an hour.

1063
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: We can just keep talking after. But this is the

1064
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: time to hit the music. Randy, let's go.

1065
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: For d talk more. You better get in soon or

1066
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: else I'm gonna start going.

1067
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: It's been fun. Titans, Steelers. They gave us a good game.

1068
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: They gave us a lot to talk about. Dan was right,

1069
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: We're always gonna find a lot to talk about.

1070
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: Sunday seven and three and get them Brownie heap the call.

1071
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: H h