1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: And you know, I've been. 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how do I possibly introduce this 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: chat in the right way. You know what, It's family, 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: and this dude has been part of your family for 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: probably decades and decades. He's been part of my family 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: for the last twenty years at Fox NFL Sunday. Probably 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: most famous for coming out with a Christmas album. I 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: was saying, uh, he's done a couple other things. It's 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: one and only Terry Brawshaw. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Everybody, thanks Jay Lazer. 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for bringing up that Christmas album. 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: That's the only reason I wanted you want it is holiday? 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: Wee you, I hear you. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: What's that moment in your life? 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: It's called unbreakable that something should have broke you but didn't, 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: and you came through the other side of that tunnel 18 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and you're stronger. 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 3: Relevan, There's a phrase I heard on television and a 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: guy by the name of Quitley Phipps used. 21 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 4: It before he sang this song. 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: And being a guy that speaks to a lot of corporations, 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: so I used to. I don't as much anymore, but 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: I almost always use this because it sets up. 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: A good ending and it goes. 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: It's in the quiet crucible of your personal private suffering 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: that your noblest dreams are born and God's greatest gifts 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: are given to you for what you've been through, And 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: that says it all right there. I am most proud, 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 3: most proud of not letting them break me in Pittsburgh 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: when they called me dumb and stupid and basically had 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: nobody defending me as kind of like a man on 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: an island. And I was sitting in my room Jake, 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: all by myself, not married, and I had emotional breakdown 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: and I had this incredible talk to myself. I've never 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: said this, where I said, I am not going to 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: let him take this from me. I am not going 38 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: to be destroyed by these negative people. 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: You know, nobody is going to steal my dream. I 40 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: own it. It's mine. 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: And I had this incredible self motivating talk to myself. 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: And it was from that moment on that I developed 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: I did, and. 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: How he loves it. 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: When I say mirror economics or mirror self evaluation. 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: What does that mean to me? 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: Stand in front of the mirror and have a talk 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: with yourself, and you'll tell yourself. 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: You low life, you non working dog, You better do this. 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 4: You know it's I call it mirror economics, but it's 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: basically it's a self evaluation. And when you do that 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: and you're all alone by yourself, you're going to be 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: brutally honest. 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: You're not going to try to pull something over someone's 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: eyes or pretend to be something you're not. You're going 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: to be brutally honest with yourself and you're going to 57 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: take that and you're going to apply it to your life. 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: And it was that time where I decided I'm weak emotionally. 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: Everything bothers me. 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: I need a pad on the back, I need love, 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 3: I need this, I need that. 62 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: But I'm not and I'm not and I'm not from 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: this day forward. 64 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: You know, as you said, the shield is up, and 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: my shield of armor is up, and nobody's going to 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: break in, and I'm going to turn this around. 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 4: It may not have been in Pittsburgh, may have been 68 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: somewhere else, but thank god it was in Pittsburgh. That 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: is my unbreakable moment. 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: This person here is certainly in that category of one 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: of the greatest athletes of all times, one of the 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: greatest Olympians of all times, but I like to have 73 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: people on who are also one of the greatest people 74 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: I've ever met of all time. 75 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: With that, I'm going to bring in a good friend of. 76 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: Mine who we respectfully call each other each one's. 77 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Besties, The one and only Lindsay Vaughan. How are you, bestie, 78 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: ay j how are you? I'm doing great. I love 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: the product placement there. Gee, are you a spokesman for somebody? 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: I can't tell if I. 81 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: Could tell, but mainly I just got done skiing, so 82 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 5: I've got helmet hair, and you know, I wanted to 83 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: be presentable, so this was my solution. 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: That's still a thing for you, helmet air after all 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: these years, you still worry about helmet air. 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it doesn't go away like when you ski, 87 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: It just happens. It's a natural side effect. 88 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I'm fucking Lindsay Vonn. I could have 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: whatever kind of arat. 90 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: You shit me, give me your unbreakable moment, the thing 91 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: that should have broken you and didn't, and as a 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: result you came to the other side of that tunnel 93 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: stronger for the rest of your life. 94 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: I mean, Jay, that list is really long. There's been 95 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 5: many unbreakable moments. I think probably my second when I 96 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 5: blew out my knee in twenty thirteen acl MCL to 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: be a plateau fracture, and then ten months later I 98 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: did it again, just no MCL, and basically the entire 99 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 5: world wrote me off and it almost broke me. It 100 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 5: was close, probably one of the hardest times of my life, 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 5: but I crawled my way out. I learned how to 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 5: walk again. I learned how to didn't run. Running was 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: out of the question. But I won my second race 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: back and that was is basically two years of being 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 5: out of competition, and that was probably one of my 106 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: proudest moments. I cried like a little baby, and I 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: guarantee you that no one else would have been able 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 5: to do what I did. 109 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: Going to bring a good friend of mine from a 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: long time ago when friends were ages from New York City. 111 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: But now we have something else we bond with, which 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: is mental health, and that is Kenneth Cole. 113 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: How are you, brother? 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 6: I'm great, Jay. So if you do get a successful 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 6: designer on the show some day, let me know. 116 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: Is that. 117 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of fucked that one up, didn't I. Yeah, 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: give me your unbreakable moment, like the moment of your 119 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: life that should have broken you, could have broken you, 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: and because it didn't, you came through the other side 121 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: of that tunnel and made you a lot stronger. 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 7: So I woke up one morning and I realized that 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 7: the stores were all the whole retail business in the 124 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 7: United States was struggling, and then there was only a 125 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 7: few retailers left. That Macy's was about to be acquired 126 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 7: by Federated Department Stores, which and they or they were 127 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 7: both in debt up to their eyes, and they already 128 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 7: had no service on the floor. And it became clear 129 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 7: to me that in order for them to justify and 130 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 7: afford this, they had to change their business model, which 131 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 7: meant they were going to have to get rid of 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 7: the middle man, and they were going to have to 133 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 7: source product independently. And I realized, wait a second, I'm 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 7: that middleman, and so I went back to sleep, took 135 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 7: some ass from them, back to sleep, woke up, and 136 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 7: I said, wait a second, I don't have to be 137 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 7: that middleman. 138 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: If I opened stores and I could become the destination, 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 6: then I'm not the middleman anymore. 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 4: They are. 141 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 6: So I changed the business model and went public, in 142 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: order to fund opening stores, and I became a retailer, 143 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 6: and I built got to focused. 144 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 7: On building the brand and not just creating cool shoes 145 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 7: for cool people. 146 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: Have been very open about meeting certain teammates in my life, 147 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: people that I lean into as I have struggled. I 148 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: used to sit there and suffer in silence. But I've 149 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: needed a fight team. I've needed people I could lean 150 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: into and walker walk together with. And my guest right now, 151 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I probably leaned into this man more than just about 152 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: everybody else. 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: In my life when I struggle. 154 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: He's one of the people that I immediately call because 155 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: he gets me. And you'll probably be surprised that he 156 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: gets me so much because he is man, mister everything. 157 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: He's Walter Payton Man of the Year award winner, he's 158 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion, and he is probably the most 159 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: handsome guy who's ever played in the National Football League. 160 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: Let's just say that he looks. 161 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: Exactly like me, except you know, eight feet taller and 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: eight hundred pounds heavy year But that is my boy. 163 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth. How are you, brother, I'm good, brother. 164 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for let me come on here 165 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: with you today. 166 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: No, absolutely letting you come on, you kid me, and 167 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: people don't realize it. Look, when I wrote my book Unbreakable, 168 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and I tried to explain what mental health issues were, 169 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: what the gray was. Andrew and I were sitting in 170 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: Cabo with Sean McVay in the famous weekend when we 171 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: did happen to run into Matthew Stafford in Cabo. 172 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 8: Just happened, you know, just happened to right a lot 173 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 8: of people you run into in a hot tub, you know, 174 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 8: it happened. 175 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: It started in the hot tub, went back to Whitworth's room. 176 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: Next thing you know, Matt Stafford. He's a ram go figure. 177 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 9: You know. 178 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: It's love at first sight. 179 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 8: No, it's hey, that was a special week I'll never 180 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 8: forget us visiting and talking about you writing your book 181 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 8: and obviously wow, to think where both of us have 182 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 8: gone from there, it's pretty crazy. 183 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Give me your unbreakable moment, that moment that should have 184 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: or could have broken you and didn't, and you came 185 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: through the other side of that. 186 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 8: Tall I think anytime in sports you have lots of 187 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 8: moments that maybe you could break you from a sports standpoint, 188 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 8: but I think for me, my unbreakable moment would be 189 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 8: when I when I went to the NFL with the 190 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 8: Cincinnati Bengals. A lot of people don't realize the beginning 191 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 8: of this story. And everyone heard the Walter Payton Man 192 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 8: of the Year speech about Derek Barnes and our interaction 193 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 8: on the field and me going to a boys and 194 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 8: girls club and meeting him as I was a rookie 195 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 8: in the NFL, and sixteen years later he's on an 196 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 8: NFL field with me and tells me, like, man, you 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 8: influenced my life and you made a difference, and I 198 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 8: couldn't wait to get to the NFL to tell you 199 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 8: thank you. But what they don't realize is that when 200 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 8: I got drafted in the NFL, I was fresh out 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 8: of a divorce in college. I married a girl in 202 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 8: college for six months and got divorced, drafted in the league, 203 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 8: and two weeks later, my best friend in life, Lee Deal, 204 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 8: was killed in action in Iraq, and I went through 205 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 8: a divorce of a relationship and the divorce of, you know, 206 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 8: my friend dying, who's one of my closest people in life. 207 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 8: We grew up together, we were college roommates. He then went 208 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 8: and went and joined the Navy and was on a 209 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 8: special recon team and was killed in action. And so 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 8: what people don't realize about that Derek Barnes story is 211 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 8: that as much as I was there for Derek Barnes 212 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 8: those Tuesday visits to sit with him and his buddies 213 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 8: and talk about life and to sit on just a 214 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 8: step on the side of the concrete and throw the 215 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 8: football together, I spent time with those kids, it's because 216 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 8: I was so empty inside and so like, I don't. 217 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: Know what's worth living. 218 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 8: For that, Derek Barnes was as much there for me 219 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 8: as I ever was for Derek Barnes. And so when 220 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 8: he walked up to me last November after that game 221 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 8: and told me, dude, I couldn't wait for the moment 222 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 8: to tell you I made it to the NFL, I. 223 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: Blacked out when that happened. 224 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 8: I literally asked our PR person afterwards, like, what did 225 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 8: I say back to him? 226 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: Do you remember? 227 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 8: Because just get me his number. I need to talk 228 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 8: to him because I have no idea what happened, because 229 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 8: to me, it was like, man like I went back 230 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 8: to that spot, that unbreakable moment where I didn't know 231 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 8: who I was or what I ever wanted out of 232 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 8: life or any of that had no passions, nothing, and 233 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 8: it just took me back to that concrete step sitting 234 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 8: with those kids and realizing like wow, like you're here, 235 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 8: but wow, I'm here too, and I have no idea 236 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 8: how we got here, you know, And it's just it's 237 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 8: so that will always be what I'll remember, Like I 238 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 8: remember the Super Bowl, I remember Walt Speaton, Man of 239 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 8: you here all. That's really cool that moment, Man, it took 240 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 8: me back to a place where, Wow, not only was 241 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 8: I dark, I had no idea what tomorrow was. It 242 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 8: was just an empty place. But it's really cool that 243 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 8: now it's a place that's filled up with so many 244 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 8: cool memories and joy and awesome moments. 245 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: One of the guys who was very proud to beat 246 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: the hell out of me on a daily basis for 247 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: a long time is my guest here. That is the 248 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: UFC six time World Champ Hall of Famer, my brother 249 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: and co creator with me of MMA Athletics, Randy Coutour. My, dude, 250 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: give your own breakable moment, that moment like that changed 251 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: your life, that something tried to break you couldn't and 252 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: you came through the other side of that tunnel. 253 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a journey for me through the support 254 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 10: of wrestling. I started wrestling at ten years old to 255 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 10: get my dad's attention. My dad was a dead beat. 256 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 10: He was never around, no support that my mom raised 257 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 10: service par herself. But I heard my whole life what 258 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 10: a great wrestler he was and what a tough guy 259 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 10: he was. So I donned the compulsory uniform of that era, 260 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 10: tights in a singlet, and walked out in front of 261 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 10: all my classmates, hoping to get his attention that he 262 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 10: would come around. He never saw me wrestle, not a 263 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 10: single match in my entire career, but I found the 264 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 10: place that seemed to make me tick. Those coaches were very, 265 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 10: very important to me because they filled that boyd. When 266 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 10: I needed to kick any ass, they were the guys 267 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 10: to grab me and do that. When I needed an 268 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 10: arm thrown around me in a new gie, it's going 269 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 10: to be okay, it's going to be all right, they 270 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 10: were the guys to do that too. I don't think 271 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 10: they knew that. I've talked to my coaches. I'm good 272 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 10: friends with Coach k Spear, my very first coach. I 273 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 10: don't think he knew what he meant to me, and 274 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 10: that boyd and that thing that he was providing for 275 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 10: me that I didn't have at home. 276 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: But that was. 277 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 10: Certainly the journey for me, and the courage to don 278 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 10: that uniform and walk out there in an individual combattive 279 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 10: sport like wrestling. Forget winning or losing. Hell, that was 280 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 10: enough just doing that, but that, you know, and then 281 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 10: setting a goal. Even though he was it didn't work. 282 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,479 Speaker 10: He never came around, he never saw me. I eventually, 283 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 10: you know, it was in the state finals my senior year. 284 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 10: I was at one time state champion in Washington. He 285 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 10: wasn't there, But that journey culminated with me fulfilling that 286 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 10: dream to be that state champion, and that's when I 287 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 10: realized I can do this. I used that I could 288 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 10: have used as an excuse to be a douchebag and 289 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 10: make a lot of bad decisions and do. 290 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: A lot of bad things. 291 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 10: I used it instead to motivate myself, you know, arrantly 292 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 10: trying to get his attention, but still found my calling, 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 10: found my vocation, the place that I. 294 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: Belonged ultimately led me down this road. 295 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: Played for thirteen years in the NFL, six time pro bowler, 296 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: twenty one catches in a game, A good friend of mine, 297 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, welcome him in and p marsh give me 298 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: your unbreakable moment, Give me the moment that man, you 299 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: went through the deepest, darkest tunnel. It could have broken you, 300 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: but it didn't, and you came through the other side 301 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: of that tunnel much stronger as a result. 302 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: Man, there's so many. 303 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 9: The first one was in college and I grew up 304 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 9: as a superstar right like on this pedestal. And then 305 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 9: there was three years where I didn't think I was 306 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 9: gonna make it to the NFL and hit my you know, 307 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 9: my goals, and I never forget laying in the tub 308 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 9: and the ice bath the day before the game, body 309 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 9: just feeling like crap, mind feeling like crap, and I 310 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 9: was just crying, crying my eyes out. Anyways, I ended 311 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 9: up doing this, jumping out of that tub, going to 312 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 9: the tattoo parlor and getting two stars on my side. 313 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: One says born, one says die. 314 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 9: And that was my way of like coming out of 315 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 9: that moment where it's like I may be in some 316 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 9: shit right now, and that's where I want to be. 317 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: But I knew I was born in star and I'm 318 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: a dire star. 319 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 9: So before every play, every moment on the field, you 320 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 9: see me tapping my sides and then doing this, and 321 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 9: that was me going back to that moment, like don't 322 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 9: forget who you are and why you're here. There was 323 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 9: another moment in twenty eleven before I went to McLain 324 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 9: hospital when when my buddy right where Mike sims Walker 325 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 9: and I were fighting on the field and he basically like, 326 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 9: I don't. 327 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: Know who you are. 328 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 9: I know who you are, right, And so in that 329 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 9: moment of going to McClain hospital was there for three months, man, 330 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 9: I was sitting there where people had blood seeping through 331 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 9: their arms because they were self harming. There was a 332 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 9: young lady named Sasha, we call it Sasha Bear. She 333 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 9: was fifteen years old. She was in a three East program. 334 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 9: She completed suicide. Like I was in some real stuff. 335 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 11: Man. 336 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: I was on campus where. 337 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 9: People was literally walking around talking to themselves and you 338 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 9: say how low, they won't even respond back. 339 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 6: You weren't even there dealing with psychosis and so many 340 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 6: different things. 341 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 9: And that moment, like I could have my life could 342 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 9: have went totally Leffer could have totally totally right. And 343 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 9: then the last moment is right now, like I'm in 344 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 9: probably one of the toughest moments I could ever be in, right, 345 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 9: maybe even tougher than where I was right building this 346 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 9: company entrepreneurship, eighty employees. You know, I invested all the 347 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 9: money building apps and building this stuff. Bro, when I 348 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 9: tell you I'm dealing with some stuff, I'm dealing with 349 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 9: some stuff. But now I have the resources and skills 350 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 9: to be able to cope with the apps and flows 351 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 9: of it. 352 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: So it's tough. 353 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: I cried two nights ago. 354 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 9: I cried two nights ago because I found out there's 355 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 9: someone that in my circle from a team standpoint, I. 356 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: Gotta let go. 357 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 9: And it's breaking my heart that I gotta let this 358 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 9: person go because there's so many other implications to that, 359 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 9: And so like I've probably cried over the last three years, 360 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 9: probably six times built in this company. Bro, I can't 361 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 9: give it all to you because because I'm saving it 362 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 9: from my. 363 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Book, I got it. But you just gotta trust me, Bro, 364 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: you gotta trust me. 365 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 9: And so like, now I'm able to deal with it 366 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 9: and still perform at a high level because I'm taking 367 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 9: care of myself. 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,479 Speaker 2: A friend of mine. 369 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Who I have trained with, who lived with me and 370 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: my son for a while, came out on national television 371 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: and told the world he was struggling. That friend just 372 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: happens to be the best tackle the National Football League. 373 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: And Lane Johnson, give me a moment in your life, 374 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: your unbreakable. 375 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: Moment, something that could have broken. 376 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: This doesn't have to be mental health wise, just anything, 377 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: something in your life, your career, whatever. 378 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: It is. 379 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Something that, like, for me is when I almost died 380 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: with my lungs and then freaking came all the. 381 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Way back and open unbreakable with an oxygen attack. 382 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: My other unbreakable moment was, you know, eleven years after 383 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: starting my career, get my first full time job and not. 384 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: Not Quinn, after eleven years. 385 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Of fucking rejection, making nine thousand step four hundred and 386 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: fifty bucks a year living in New York City. 387 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: What is your unbreakable moment? 388 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Give me that moment for you that something should have broken, 389 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: you didn't, and you came through the other side of 390 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: that tunnel stronger because of. 391 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 12: It, I mean, overcoming just really this past year with 392 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 12: the injuries, the anxiety, you know, even the coming forth 393 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 12: and now you know, telling people, you know, kind of 394 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 12: my journey and then uh, really is just be wary 395 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 12: of the people you're around every day at work. 396 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: Try to lighten people up. 397 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 13: And like I said, a conflict can go a long 398 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 13: way for people, A good conversation can go a long 399 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 13: way for people. And I feel like the initiation of 400 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 13: that might be the hardest part, but once you break 401 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 13: that door down, then it helpens. 402 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: It up for a much better life. 403 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: My guy that I'm bringing in here is my walking antidepressant. 404 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Really is my guy, David Spade. 405 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: Give me your and break all the moment the one 406 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: thing in your life it should have broken, you didn't, 407 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: and as a result, you came through the other side 408 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: of that tunnel stronger forever. 409 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 11: That's sort of a complex question I would have to say. 410 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 11: I would have to go with I'll go with probably 411 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 11: dad leaving, Dad leaving when those four my brother's just 412 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 11: six and eight, And that's a hard one. 413 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 6: That's a very hard one. 414 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 11: I didn't really even notice how hard it was because 415 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 11: I had a lot of anger. It just came out 416 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 11: in different ways with all of us. And when you 417 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 11: want someone to rely on, or you're sick, when you're 418 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 11: eleven and you want to call your dad and you can't, 419 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 11: he calls me when he wants. You know, he was 420 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 11: around when he just wasn't available, and so that was 421 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 11: a very tough one even throughout my life. But I 422 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 11: think in a world of like a victim mentality, I 423 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 11: have to say I can't just talk about those things. 424 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 11: You have to just say, here's the cards you're dealt 425 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 11: and go forward or not because no one's there to 426 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 11: help you. That's not any one's job. So if you 427 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 11: want to move forward, you got to take what happens 428 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 11: and move forward. You can't just blame, blame, blame. I mean, 429 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 11: it's easier said than done, and I have not done 430 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 11: it perfectly, but I just realized it's either that or nothing. 431 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: It was like the Joder movie. 432 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 11: That was part of it going. You got to keep 433 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 11: keeping on because what else you going to do? So 434 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 11: I had to do it. My mom, luckily was so 435 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 11: great and made up the best she could, so I 436 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 11: owe her everything. But yeah, that was that was it. 437 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 11: It bothered me you know for obviously for a long 438 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 11: long My. 439 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: Dude, Freddy Fritz Junior, how are you, my man? I'm 440 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: very well, how are you good? Good? 441 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Now I ask all my guests this, give me your 442 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: unbreakable moment one thing in life, man, that could have 443 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: broken you, should have broken you, but it didn't, and 444 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: as a result, you came through the other side of 445 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: that tunnel stronger forever. 446 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean we touched on it earlier, because I 447 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 14: definitely there's nothing unbreakable about me. Being breakable is what 448 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 14: keeps me sharp, It's what keeps me focused, It's what 449 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 14: keeps me disciplined. Knowing that all this precious life, everything 450 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 14: I have, it can all be gone in a moment's 451 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 14: notice if life doesn't turn out the way it's supposed to. 452 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 14: So every time those moments come, I really try to 453 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 14: be prepared for him. When I decided to move to 454 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 14: Los Angeles and pursue this business, that was one of 455 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 14: those make or break moments. 456 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: I could have quit. 457 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 4: I could have given up. 458 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 14: I hated being told no, I hated being told I 459 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 14: wasn't good enough. I hated having bad auditions when I 460 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 14: knew I had a better performance somewhere inside me. I 461 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 14: just couldn't get it out at that moment. I have 462 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 14: moments in the car where I wanted to turn around 463 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 14: and be like, give me one more chance, But you 464 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 14: can't do that. It's so unprofessional, so there were times 465 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 14: where I was ready to walk away, and then you know, 466 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 14: it was that discipline from my godfather, you know, and 467 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 14: those those BS quotes that he would always hit me with. 468 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 14: I'm in control of my actions and my reactions to 469 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 14: the actions of others, and so every not I heard, 470 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 14: I just had to control. 471 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: The way that made me feel. And it was all right, you. 472 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 14: Don't think I'm good enough, You'll see. And the next 473 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 14: time I went in, I made sure I was better, 474 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 14: and I had to hustle, I had to lie. I 475 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 14: did everything I could to get as many auditions and 476 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 14: as much experience as I could so that when those 477 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 14: big dogs called me in they couldn't talk shit like 478 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 14: they would have. They wouldn't be able to deny me, 479 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 14: and eventually I broke through. You know, I had to 480 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 14: wait for skeet Alric to be busy because we popped 481 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 14: at the same time. But once he booked a movie, 482 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 14: I was like, all right, there's gonna be six opportunities. 483 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: I got to get one of them. 484 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: See, I want to correct you because you said you're 485 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: not unbreakable. You're unbreakable because there's a lot of things 486 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: that could have broken, but you didn't stay down. 487 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the permanent sense A percent. Damn right. I 488 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 2: couldn't agree more. 489 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Hey man, I appreciate your brother. Thank you so much again. 490 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Wrestling with Freddie as Wrestling Podcast. Make sure everybody here 491 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: tunes into that. 492 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: Dude. Can't thank you enough. 493 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: Man. 494 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully you and I can break some bread 495 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: and man shit have Strayham won't get his ass back 496 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: at her. 497 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: You can teach me I have a surf. That not 498 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: a problem, man. We live pretty close to each other. 499 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 14: Sow Man, you and to all your listeners, it's a 500 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 14: fight every day, so put your hands up. 501 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: Love it. Freddy Prince Junior, Thank you, my dude. 502 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, my pleasure.