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Speaker 1: Noah SyncE, Noah, Okay, that was quite at I always say,

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Speaker 1: realizing well, I'm still in this because I still think

430
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: that person's the same as who they were. But now,

431
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: using your words, you're like, we've just outgrown each other.

432
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: Like do you think people change? Like? Do people change?

433
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: I put out the CP right and I titled it

434
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: people don't change because a lot of in my personal experience, Yeah,

435
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I set out to want to change, and I think

436
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm in the process of changing my life. I don't

437
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: know if I can exactly change who I am at

438
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: the core. What do you What do you think about that?

439
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: That's such a great question because I go back and forth.

440
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't and if somebody asked me, I wouldn't know,

441
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: But I want to know your take on it. Yeah,

442
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: I would say I do believe that transformation and change

443
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: is possible, but it's not very probable. The probability is low,

444
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: but possibility is high. And what I mean by that

445
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: is everyone has the opportunity to change, but the path

446
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: is long, hard, and often requires big amounts of tragedy, stress,

447
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: and turmoil to even get someone to have that opportunity

448
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: to take that path. And so I don't think I

449
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: would ever write off I genuinely believe in real transformation

450
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: and change, and I believe in the possibility of it.

451
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: I think the probability and the expectation and the speed

452
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: we want it to happen at is unlikely. I also

453
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: believe that people don't change for people, and I think

454
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: that's often when we say people will change, it's often us.

455
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: The real full sentence is people will change for me, right,

456
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: And I think that's really what we're saying, and that

457
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I don't think someone changes

458
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: for someone else. I think people change for themselves when

459
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: they realize that if I don't change, then that's not

460
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: good for me. But the probability of that happening is

461
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: low until something massively painful or drastic happens in their life.

462
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: And I agree with you on the core thing, Like

463
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: I look at I went through a huge change externally

464
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: in terms of it became a monk. I left my

465
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: time as a monk, that I lived for three years

466
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: in India, and that I lived the life I do today.

467
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: But I'm still the same person I always was at

468
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: the core, like what you just said, like at the court,

469
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm the same person. I was raised by my mom.

470
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: She told me to be polite, I like people, I'm

471
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: kind and these are things I learned from my mom

472
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and I'm still all those

473
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: things and I've grown, but I'm still the same person

474
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: at the core, And so I think that people can

475
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: I've seen amazing changes in people. I've seen people who've

476
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: gone from doing the worst things to doing the best things,

477
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: of seeing people go from but the probability is not

478
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: as high and it won't happen for a person. So

479
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if that helps answers your question. Yeah, yeah,

480
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: because I mean it's kind of exactly how I feel

481
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: about it too. Yeah. No, I mean I agree, like,

482
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: and you know from experience of seeing that, I mean,

483
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: even in positive ways, you don't have to look at

484
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: it as a negative way. Not losing yourself and who

485
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: you are at the core like I mean, I feel

486
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: like I lost that for a long time, and in

487
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: a positive way, I got it back. And again, that

488
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: was a lot to do with who I am and

489
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: who I was as a younger child. Yeah, because I

490
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: also felt that change and shifted myself at such a

491
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: young age. I mean I still look at seventeen and

492
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: eighteen years old as a child to me and very

493
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: very young and lived on my own at seventeen and

494
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: thought I had the whole thing figured out, And you know,

495
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: very quickly after everything shifted very drastically, and you know,

496
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: until I was maybe just a year ago, I started

497
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: feeling like who I was when I put my very

498
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: first single out. Maybe yeah, maybe even way way way before.

499
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: I don't really remember when I truly lost or started

500
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: disconnecting from who I really am, or started disliking or

501
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: not loving who I really was. Yeah. Yeah, And actually

502
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: I think you've just answered it. Like I think, ultimately,

503
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: when we're both talking about change, we're talking about growth. Yeah. Absolutely,

504
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: And it's like what you've been saying this whole interview

505
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: so far, It's like you're like it's an everyday thing.

506
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: It's a work in progress. I'm still working on it.

507
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: Like that's what growth is. And I think when we

508
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: look at growth in ourselves, we realize it's a daily process.

509
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: But when we look at change in someone else, we

510
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: want it to be drastic and tomorrow. Absolutely, it's different

511
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: expectations we have of change, If that makes sense. That

512
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: was a really good way to put it. Yeah, Like

513
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like I know, if I need to change,

514
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: it's going to take a few years, but I'm hoping

515
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: this person changes tomorrow. Yeah, And that's where I think

516
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: our expectations and change kind of get too mixed up.

517
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: So change is possible, our expectation is a slightly messy.

518
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: I think, what's a big change you think you've made

519
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: in your life that is had a big change externally?

520
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Like internally, what is a change that you've made, even

521
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: a simple thing that you feel has I mean, the

522
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: most major change for me was was stopped taking xanax.

523
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: That completely I was ruining my life. It was the

524
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: scariest most alone I had ever felt, except it made

525
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: me feel as if I had comfort whenever I was on. Yeah,

526
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: the substance as I was taking at which time that was,

527
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, the poison that I really had to get

528
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: out of my life and make that change. Had I

529
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: not done that, I touch on it on the album,

530
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not one hundred percent sure I would have

531
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: been able to be sitting here having this conversation with you,

532
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: because I didn't really want to be alive anymore. You know.

533
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: When I did have this moment of clarity, even if

534
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: it was for a second, I did not want to

535
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: forget that. I had one thought that, like, maybe I

536
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: could turn this around. I called who I needed to call,

537
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: and I made that change, so absolutely without a doubt.

538
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the first thing that comes to mind,

539
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: because had I not done that, like I it saved

540
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: my life getting off off of sant accent. That's amazing.

541
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being so open and vulnerable

542
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: with us. I can tell that obviously it's not an

543
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: easy thing to talk about, especially when it's being a

544
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: part of your life in that way. So thank you

545
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, and even more so, just that's incredible, Like,

546
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: that's amazing, And you know, I think there's so many

547
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: people listening and watching who I'm sure they're family members,

548
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: they've been in that position. You know. I think it's incredible,

549
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: isn't it. How lonely you can be made to feel

550
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: when actually it's a hugely collective experience, and I think

551
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: that's going to help a lot of people. You're sharing

552
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: that and that making that change in your life and

553
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: and being with you today, I'm like, that's that's amazing.

554
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: It's it's truly incredible. Thank you. Yeah. I think I

555
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: think we need to acknowledge and celebrate that more because again,

556
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: it takes so much strength. Thank you. Yeah, I just hope. Honestly,

557
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I think my goal with all of us and being

558
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: open about it is I do know that. Um, I'm

559
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: not trying to be an example for anybody. I'm just

560
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: trying to share my experience because I also had a

561
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, we did a podcast three

562
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: years ago. I have I've had a mut music career

563
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: since I was sixteen years old. I had a lot

564
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: of people looking in since I was a babe, just

565
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: due to the family I was born in, and with

566
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: Instagram and social media and things like that interviews, I

567
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: felt that a part of me was seen that you know,

568
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: I allowed out there. But I really wanted an explanation

569
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: for I think a lot of the things I had

570
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: posted on my Instagram and I felt like there were

571
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things like, you know, friends reaching out,

572
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: worried about me after I would post an Instagram story,

573
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: and you know, just the look in my eyes was

574
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: scary to a lot of people. And there's a few

575
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: interviews in particularly when I just hear the way I

576
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: was talking where I feel so ashamed and so guilty.

577
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: And I think that's another thing, is like the shame

578
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: and the guilt and the regret is inevitable when going

579
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: through this. So for anyone listening to know that that's

580
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: normal and that's something I experienced every single day, even

581
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: though I know I probably shouldn't. It's it's just something

582
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: you experience, arience, and it's it's something I'm going through

583
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: and go through and sometimes it's better and sometimes it's worse,

584
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: but it's just all part of the process. Yeah. Again,

585
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I think that also goes back to just learning to

586
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: love yourself and look out for yourself and nurture yourself

587
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: whenever you're being so hard on yourself or completely changing

588
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: your life, you know, but I go hard on myself

589
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: about before and what it was like two years ago

590
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: or three years ago, and that's just something I'm processing

591
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: and dealing with ye as of now. Yeah, And I

592
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: think that that's that's I love what you said that

593
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: it's it's not about being an example. It's just encouraging

594
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: to hear that that it's what you go through. I

595
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: think it's so interesting that every day we feel hot

596
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: and we feel cold, and we feel maybe sweaty, we

597
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: feel really cold, we feel like we're freezing, Like we

598
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: go through so many different body changes every day, and

599
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: we would never judge ourselves for that. We wouldn't be like, oh,

600
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm the worst. I should have wanted longest sleeve T shirt,

601
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: like you just go and put a sweater on or whatever.

602
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: And I think it's the same with our emotions, Like

603
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: we're experiencing so many emotions throughout the day, but we

604
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: don't give ourselves the permission to say, oh, I'm allowed

605
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: to feel cold and then get a sweater to feel warm,

606
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: Like we don't do that with our emotions, if that

607
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: makes sense, and saying hey, I do feel a bit

608
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: of shame, but then maybe I need to feel a

609
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: bit of this to help, you know, even it out.

610
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: And so I love that that's the process you're on

611
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. It's a daily thing. I

612
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: don't think there's anyone who never just like there's no

613
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: one in the world who never feels hot or cold.

614
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: There's no one who doesn't feel sad or down, or

615
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: happy or unhappy. Like we're all feeling all of them

616
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: at different spectrums and different extremes. So learning our own

617
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: patterns and learning our own thoughts is pretty much, you know,

618
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: what we all need to focus on. So I wanted

619
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: to pick something that this was a lyric from I

620
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: Burned Down, burned La Down, And you said, and obviously

621
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: it's about feeling like you have to burn la down

622
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: to get someone you're dating's attention. But this is the

623
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: lyric that I thought was really beautiful. I'm gonna I

624
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: can't think, so please do not expect anything. I'm just

625
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna read it out. I waste my breath on a prayer.

626
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: You don't care. I was never part of the plan.

627
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: You can't make a god of somebody who's not even

628
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: half of half a decent man like that lyric is

629
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: just it's a pretty cold lyric. Yeah yeah, but it's

630
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: also just like a very raw emotion. And I thought

631
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: it was it's it's cold, but it's poetical you put

632
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: together so it's it's it's powerful, and I think a

633
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: lot of people could relate to that. I think that

634
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to pick a few moments if you don't

635
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: mind it, if that lyric you can't make a God

636
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: of somebody? I find that such an interesting concept. I

637
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: think so many of us are looking for God in

638
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: the people we idolize, the people we follow, the sports teams,

639
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: the musicians, the actors, the even parents and people in

640
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: our lives. Like we're all looking for that God figure

641
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: in so many ways. And you know, you rightly say

642
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: in that lyric, you can't make a god of somebody, Like,

643
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: where did that come from? I wanted to hear that

644
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: idea because I thought that was really powerful concept. My

645
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: poetic way of always just completely falling into people, and

646
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: how much I completely rely and give myself to people.

647
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I think obviously I've been very open that it's been

648
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: hard to rely on myself. In the past, I always

649
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: looked in that for other in other people. At the time,

650
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: especially of COVID and everybody's isolation, it was just me

651
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: and that one other person, and so my entire life

652
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: revolved around that one other person. Every single day, whether

653
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: they were happy, they were sad, if they were comfortable uncomfortable,

654
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: if they were mad or not mad, if they loved

655
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: me or didn't love me, My entire life became revolved

656
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: around somebody else. I've definitely done that in the past,

657
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: and like you said, again, people with I like that

658
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: compute with many different things. It's finding the right things

659
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: to do that with. And with me, it was my

660
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: album and worshiping music and actually finding myself and who

661
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: I am and loving myself that that was where that

662
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: lyric came from. It's just it felt like worship the

663
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: way that I admired this person, and then you had

664
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: to redirect that worship towards your music and your craft,

665
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: and you absolutely And I think also I've been thinking

666
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: a lot about my spirituality lately, and I think that's

667
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: a huge different conversation for a whole other time. But

668
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, it just falling in love with other things,

669
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: and the world's so interesting and the universe so interesting,

670
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: and energy is such a powerful thing, and I just

671
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: want to learn more about it and and God and

672
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: what that is to me and other people and who

673
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: and and just it's all so interesting and I just

674
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: want to know. I want to learn more, I want

675
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: to grow more again, Like I said, this all goes

676
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: back to growing instead of using the word change, going,

677
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: going to the word going growing, I think is good. Yeah, yeah, no,

678
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: I I can relate to a lot of that in

679
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: the sense of, like I feel, I was always in

680
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: love with love growing up, Yeah, me too. I fantasized

681
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: that majorly same and and all of it was based

682
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: on romantic songs and movies, and none of it was

683
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: based on reality. It was all based on pop culture

684
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: and media, and you know, and and I for a

685
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: long time, I really pursued that type of love, and

686
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: that was love that was based on idolizing someone else,

687
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: worshiping someone else, wanting also to be idolized back, and

688
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: recognizing that there was a part of me that was

689
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: really seeking that importance through that other individual in the

690
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: guise of loving them. And I think when I came

691
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that similarly to what you're saying, actually

692
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: that you can't make a god of somebody, it's that

693
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: you can't make a god of yourself either. You know that.

694
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: That was a really beautiful reflection, but it's it's a

695
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: painful one because we get so trained and wired to

696
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: believe certain things. A what's a belief that you think

697
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: you have now about yourself that is healthy and putting

698
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: you in the right direction and helping you grow. You

699
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: talked about some of the beliefs in the past that

700
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: have helped you back. What's a belief now that you

701
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: have about yourself that that is helping you move forward

702
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: and in this positive direction. That I can just I

703
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: can do what I set my mind to do, whether

704
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: that's with recovery or other things. I used to just

705
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: say I can't and or I won't or but I

706
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: actually have shown to myself so many times what I

707
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: can do. And I think that's something that like I

708
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: repeat to myself every day. I also have you will

709
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: be tat it on my wrists, which I kind of

710
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: think is kind of the same thing, just that I

711
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: will be what I set my mind to or what

712
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: I set my goals to, or who I want to

713
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: become or who I want to work on being. And

714
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: that's kind of enough. Said I I had so much

715
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: doubt in myself, and that's something that has held me

716
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: back for so long. So I think knowing that and

717
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: believing that and believing that truly and to my core

718
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: is new for me and something I can truly, honestly

719
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: say I feel about myself. I also have a hard time,

720
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, even when you say that, like I may

721
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: back to the confidence thing. I sound like, I really

722
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: believe in myself, but at the same time, I have

723
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: battles where I actually have a hard time doing so

724
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: or saying kind things about myself or you know, so

725
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of a hard battle. So that was kind

726
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: of the first thing that came to mind. I thought

727
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful answer because I'm like, isn't that

728
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: just such a great thought to repeat that if I

729
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: wanted to change something, I can, like I can with

730
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: this journey I'm going through therapy, this journey, I'm going

731
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: through recovery. Like that. That's such an empowering thought. And

732
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: I think it's so amazing how we quickly believe negative

733
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: thoughts about ourselves, but we doubt the positive thoughts. And

734
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: it's like, every day, if I told myself, which I

735
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: have at times, like I'm not good enough, I'm not

736
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: good enough, I'm not good enough, I don't ever question

737
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: that thought. I'm so cool with accepting that that's just

738
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: the truth and I don't think about whether I say

739
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: every day or not. I just keep saying it, Whereas

740
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: when I say I can, then we're like, oh wait, wait, wait,

741
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: did I say that too early? Maybe I don't, maybe

742
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. And so I actually love that

743
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: that was your answer, because I think that is the

744
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: beginning of all changing growth, is saying I can do

745
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: anything I put my mind to, and I have control

746
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: over what I put my mind to. And so I

747
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: actually think it's a it's a really great answer, and

748
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that everyone who's listening to that can start

749
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: making that shift in their life. I had a mentor

750
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: who would always repeat Napoleon Hill to me, and so

751
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: he'd always say to me, you become what you think about,

752
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: and he'd get me to repeat it. He'd be like,

753
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: keep saying that you become what you think about. You

754
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: become what you think about, and then he'd catch me

755
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: off guard randomly when he'd see me and he'd look

756
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: at me and be like, Jay, what are you thinking about?

757
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like nothing, and he goes, well, you become

758
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: what you think about. See what you're gonna become? Nothing like?

759
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: And he just play with that and then it was

760
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, interesting, what am I thinking about?

761
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: What do I obsess over? Like what do I keep

762
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: repeating in my mind? And it was just something as

763
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: simple as that that started me to be like, Okay, well,

764
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about my purpose, I'm thinking about my service,

765
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how to have an impact in the world.

766
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking and then I just started to seeing my

767
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: life change. And it is that simple in the beginning.

768
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: And so I actually think that was a beautiful answer, sir.

769
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing. Noah, I could, honestly, and I

770
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: hope I do get to have that conversation with you

771
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: another time. As you said, there's a whole separate conversation

772
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: around spirituality discovery. But we end every episode with a

773
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: new segment that we started recently which I love, called

774
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: the Many Sides to Us. And this is where you're

775
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: using words or phrases to talk about yourself through different perspectives.

776
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you the questions and you

777
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: can answer them. So the first one is what's a

778
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: word or phrase that someone would say about you meeting

779
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: you for the first time? Now today, I don't know.

780
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: I think this is hard. Can I give you one yes,

781
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: time about you today for the first time in person,

782
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: and I the word that came to my mind was

783
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: sincere okay, really sincere okay. You are so sincere and

784
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: genuine in your initial words to me and what we

785
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: were talking about when you first came in, and there

786
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: was just so much sincerity and genuineness there. So okay,

787
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: that's how I think you. Okay, all right, thank you.

788
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: So I did that for you, so thank you. That's good.

789
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm hopefully not going to have a hard time. I

790
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: know the rest will be busy. What is a word

791
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: that you use that someone would describe you that knows

792
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: you well, or word or a phrase that someone who

793
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: knows you really deeply would use to describe you. Sensitive? Yeah,

794
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: sensitive in good and bad ways. I think sensitive can

795
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: be taken as like a bad thing, but it's actually

796
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm a very sensitive person. And I think the person

797
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of would be my mom if you were

798
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: to and I think that was my mom telling me

799
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: that I'm very sensitive. I love though that what you've

800
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: been doing today, You've done it twice now. It's like

801
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: you're always looking at how each quality and value can

802
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: actually be negative but also positive, Like you know it

803
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: can be healthy too. Yeah, I think often like you said, like,

804
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I'll initially all sensitive. Yeah, people are so sensitive, and

805
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: it's like, well no, no, no, being sensitive can actually

806
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: be one of the healthiest things. I love that it

807
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: gives you a lot of compassion towards other people as well.

808
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: It's not like how you said, like, oh, you're so sensitive,

809
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: you know. Actually I'll take it the wrong way sometimes. Yeah,

810
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: but what do you mean? So if I think maybe

811
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: if she had my mom had said that on a

812
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: different day, I probably want to take it all right.

813
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Question number three, what's a word or phrase you'd use

814
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: to describe yourself sensitive. I'm very loving towards other people

815
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: and other things, and like so towards myself. But I

816
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: mean so I've whenever people we actually I have talked

817
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: about this in therapy. I have a hard time talking

818
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: about my it's very evident talking about myself personally. But

819
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: whenever I do talk about things about myself, I think

820
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: it's the way that I give to other people. So

821
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm extremely loving and giving person. Thank you for having

822
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: the cards to comment. Yeah, No, it's yeah, that's great.

823
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: I love that. That's a great answer, all right. Last

824
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: two questions, what's a word or phrase you'd use to

825
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: describe the hardest part of the album. Honest is such

826
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: a vague answer, but I mean it's just extremely honest

827
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: and open, and it touches on so many parts of

828
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: my life, like I said, in so many different situations.

829
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: I also use the word personal a lot too, just

830
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: because literally the first song on my album is called Noah,

831
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: and so I think in a way I was nervous

832
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: out first, like how are these how are people going

833
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: to hear this and make it relate to themselves? But

834
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: I think honestly, by being so honest is where people

835
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, I actually do feel that too,

836
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: because if you're not, then other people aren't going to

837
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: be related. Is I think every feeling. Sometimes sometimes my

838
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: thoughts feel like I'm the only person that's ever had

839
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: this thought in the world, and then I like go

840
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: on Instagram or TikTok and I see people talking about

841
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: their feelings and they're like, I feel that feeling, you know.

842
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: So probably that I would say very a vague word,

843
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: but not it may be a common word, but the

844
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: description that you just gave of, like, yeah, that feeling

845
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: of connectivity I think is really powerful, Like I think.

846
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: I think that's why it is important to talk about

847
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: how we feel and what we're going through, so we

848
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: realize we're not the only ones, you know. I mean,

849
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people suffer in silence and

850
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: suffering a place because they do feel isolated and alone

851
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: because then they don't check with someone because they didn't

852
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: feel comfortable too. Yeah, you know, I have a very minor,

853
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: totally minor surgery tomorrow. And it's like I told a

854
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: very minor, totally not complex or deeper in any way,

855
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: but the reason I'm bringing it up is even something.

856
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: So I know when I told my friends about it,

857
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: I found out twenty five percent of my friends had

858
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: all male friends had all had that surgery, and I

859
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: was like, it's a hernia, And I was like, why

860
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: didn't you ever tell me? Like right? And that's a

861
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: really basic example, but it's the same thought process of

862
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: like how when when I first heard I had a hernie,

863
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm too young to have that. Why

864
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: do I have one? And then when I start doing

865
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: to my friends, so many of my friends under thirty

866
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: had one, and I was like, oh, why didn't I

867
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: know about this? Right? So It's something as simple as that,

868
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 1: so I think the honesty it connected. And fifteen final question,

869
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: what's a word or phrase that you're trying to embody? Again,

870
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: extremely cliche because it's a title on my album, but

871
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: I also have a tattooed on my body is stands still.

872
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 1: It's a phrase my dad said since I was really young,

873
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: and I felt like I forgot to use it for

874
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: quite a long time. But when you don't know what

875
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: to do, just stand still. It's okay to take your

876
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: time and take them moment and reevaluate everything that has

877
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: saved me so many times in my life and a

878
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: lot recently, and so to practice for me, it's really

879
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: hard for me to stay still and stand still and

880
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: be still, and so to practice that more. I really

881
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: live by those words, and I really look up to

882
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: my dad and admire him and his strength so much.

883
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: So that's such a powerful, powerful answer. I love that.

884
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: Advice to everyone's been listening and watching, I want you

885
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: to go stream the hardest part right now. It's available

886
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: as we're speaking. Go and listen to it, Go and

887
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: share it, Go and feel with it, Go and experience

888
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: the honesty that Noah's putting out there. I hope it's

889
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: extremely healing and connecting for you, and also a please

890
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: feel free to share. I think there were so many

891
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: incredible things that Noah shared today. Please tag us both

892
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: on Instagram, on Twitter, on TikTok. If you're sharing a

893
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: reflection from this podcast, please tag us both because I

894
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: love seeing how you put into practice what guest share

895
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: and I'm sure no I would love to see that too,

896
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: So please please please do that. And no I hope

897
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: this is the first of many times I get to

898
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: sit down with you. I do too, but I just

899
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: I want you to know that everything you shared today

900
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: is going to stay with me for a long time.

901
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: And there are so many parts that I know I'm

902
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: going to really listen to and rewatch and I'm just

903
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we got to talk because I even

904
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: was having anxiety and had been, I mean, with my

905
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: grandmother just passing, had been having so many different conflicting

906
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: feelings and like even today Nick was like, oh, well

907
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: maybe this is just talking with Jay and you know,

908
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: talking about your feelings and stuff is really gonna help you.

909
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: When I was so this has been amazing. I'm so

910
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: grateful we got to be in a room together, and

911
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: finally me. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you.

912
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: I hope you feel you got to share everything you

913
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: want to know I feel, I feel great. Thank you

914
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: good that makes me happy, amazing. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank thanks, no