WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: This Is Different 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:21.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:26.480 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:32.120 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newy Scrugs. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.160 Here we are Players Lounge. Everybody your Wednesday edition. High. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.960 I'm Newi Scrugs, a long time Cowboys reporter, joined by 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.280 two former Dallas Cowboys safeties buried Church at Danny McCray 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:52.159 and boys. We've been waiting all day for Wednesday afternoon football. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.880 This was supposed to be a game played Thanksgiving nights 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.440 between the Steelers and Ravens, but COVID has moved it 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.720 all the way to Wednesday. So if you are local 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.960 in the Dallas foot Worth area, it is on the 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.280 NBC five. So I will I will be on, gentleman 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.280 after we get done with this broadcast, give myself ready 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:14.520 to go on down to get ready to be on 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.920 TV because when the game ends then I gotta go 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.679 get on channel five here. So before they have kickoff, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.720 all right between the Ravens and Seelers. Uh Noster Damas, 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.720 can you make your prediction? Let let's go ahead, get 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.000 out the way, because I want the game to start 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:31.559 to try changed, all right, I'm man, before we before 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.640 we start this kickoff, you know what I'm saying. I'm 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.479 gonna go ahead and make a prediction at the Ravens 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.200 pull this one out even with all their starters going. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.960 They got RG three at quarterback. And for those who 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.440 don't know, I mean last time RG fee RG three 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.520 was on the football field, it was against US Pittsburgh 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.840 Steelers and he did hand them an el. So for me, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.280 I'm gonna say they overlook Baltimore, but Baltimore gets the 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:59.760 dub twenty four thirteen d mat you know what you're 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.800 gonna Yeah, I'm going to totally opposite of this man, Church. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.120 I'm going thirty one to ten. I know what RG 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.560 three is and that lucky stuff that he came out 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.560 with last time, it's not happening this time, Church, and 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.959 they miss it. They miss it more. They're missing more 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.560 people than just Lamar Jackson, so RG three won't be 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.880 the only replacement in there. So I'm giving this on 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.280 the Pittsburgh. They stay undefeated and hopefully Claypool has a 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.880 big game for my work fantasy league. So thirty one 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.480 to ten Steelers. All right, you know how this goes? 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.200 You know, I'm going you know how this goes? We 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.639 do these Hey, hey, okay, ain't been working out too far. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.760 I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't do it, NEWI 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.040 I wouldn't do it. Let me know. I'm going to 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:49.000 Steelers twenty seven to nine in this game. And by 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.200 the way, in case you why are you guys talking 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.600 about Ravens and Steels. Well, the next opponent for the 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.480 Dallas Cowboys will be this Baltimore Ravens team. That game 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.480 was supposed to be tomorrow, but because of all the 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.960 COVID restrictions in the game getting pushed back from Thanksgiving 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.960 to Sunday to Monday to Tuesday to that Wednesday, that 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.560 Cowboys Ravens game will not happen tomorrow. It will happen Tuesday, 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.120 December eight. Now here's a couple of things about this 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.560 football game. That one reason why church I went ahead 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.320 and took the Steelers. The Ravens are going to start 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.320 a brand new center who's making his first start because 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.440 the other dudes on COVID. And then they've got their 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.679 right guard making his second NFL start. So RG three 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.560 is getting ready to come up here with some dudes 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.200 who are not used to playing NFL games, and we're 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.360 starting NFL games that we're talking about having to go 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:41.880 against arguably the top defense in the National Football League. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.040 The Steelers are at home. The Steelers are ten and old. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.200 The Steelers are upset. They're upset at the Ravens for 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.280 the outbreak that happened with their organization. They're upset at 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.360 the NFL because they've had to keep on pushing this 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.240 game back. And I don't think this is going to 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.200 be a real crisp game because both teams haven't played 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.120 in a while. But I did go adding, say twenty 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.280 seven nine, because I just think it's gonna be a 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.000 bunch of field goals for the Ravens, and I do 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.080 think um Pittsburgh will just kind of wear them down 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.960 and be able to get get get a couple of 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.520 touchdowns on the board here. And I just think it's 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.159 gonna be a tough, tough day for the Ravens. RG three, 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.320 I am. I feel for him, man, I feel for him. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:21.960 I mean, this is a tough way to get put 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.600 into this. By the way, the Steelers are gonna have 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.040 Marquis Bounty. They're starting center. He's on the COVID nineteen lists, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.160 so I'll be interested to see how that exchange goes 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.520 for Ben Roethlisberger and the center. Expected a lot of 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.120 shotgun out of the Steelers. But it's gonna be a 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.640 tough game, man. It could be a tough game. So 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.480 go ahead, man, tell me this. So so just you know, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.239 according to what Jerry Jones said yesterday, you know, since uh, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.119 you know, he didn't feel sorry for for Denver because 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.480 we had our quarterback that we drafted in there, So 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.800 he won't feel sorry for for RG three either. That 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.880 I guess that's the same as as Denver having their 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.320 their wide receiver going out there and play quarterback as well. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.279 He wouldn't call this equal, And it is absolutely and 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.120 I'm gonna say this, it's not equal. It wasn't equal 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.480 when uh when when we put the Nuci out there 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.960 to the to the Broncos. And it is not equal 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.520 when the Ravens put RG three out there. This is 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.080 this is totally different. Come on, Jerry, and knew it. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.520 From now on, when you refer to the game coming 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.880 up next week, you say this is Brian versus the Cowboys. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:28.960 All right, just just make sure this is Brian versus 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.320 the Dallas Cowboys, not the Ravens. There's Brian and the 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.839 Ravens versus the Dallas Cowboys. I'll take that. I'll take 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.920 that as well. Can I stay with you on Dez 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.000 right here? Um, the Ravens do not have their top 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.480 receiver really sneed so, um, I'm looking for a RG 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.040 three Dez Ryan connection because RG three has been their 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.279 backup quarterback and desn bit the backup receiver. So um, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.040 you know, I'm expecting these guys that have a little 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.000 bit of chemistry because you know, a working relationship. So 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.400 I'm looking for Des Bryan today to try and catch 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.800 a couple of passes here, just because they're gonna need 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.719 some experience out there. So so I think that's Bryan 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.080 Church checked this up here. He's not called called out 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.880 to that. Yeah. Now he's starting he's starting to get 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.880 on that X train. Huh yea, they do Church, listen, listen, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.240 listen to me. The Ravens do have their number one receiver, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.840 all right, he's playing. He's wearing number eighty eight is 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.560 Das Bryant. They got their number on receiver. The other day. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.239 They got the best guy. They can make the biggest 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.760 plays out there, and he's the number one guy. He's 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.240 better than Willie Sneed. So you know, I'm taking this 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.320 to at least have a big day of the luve 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.680 today he's been He's better than Willie Sneed by far. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.679 I mean Willie Sneed. Dad's even being out of football 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.760 two years with a torn achill leeds. I mean, Willy 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.920 Sneed is still not even in the same realm as him. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.680 So look for me to this game. I think this 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.839 is where we're gonna see Dad's kind of take over 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.280 that wide receiver room. If they give him fifty fifty 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.000 jump balls. I mean I don't I still don't think 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.919 anybody in the league can jump with him. So I 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.400 think this is the game Dads takes over that receiver room. Man, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.920 at least this game, not Dallas game. Is that your prediction? 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.200 Is that your nose to Thomas prediction. I'll tell you. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.760 I'll tell you this neuis if if Das gets in 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.840 the end zone this game, you got a rocket eighty 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.360 eight jersey next time we get on the show. Is 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:11.880 that is that is that something you would you would 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.440 buy into neuis you go send it to me, Go 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.920 send me the eighty eight jersey. I'll get you one 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.360 of them. I'll get you one of them, lick them stickles. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.160 I ain't gonna get you the authentic you know you 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.920 stick the jersey. You know what, I'll get you one 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.480 of those. But yeah, I'll make it happen if you 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.840 get Is that a handshake agreement, my friend? If you 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.520 if you send it to me, I will put it 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.440 on h on. But but I've only got the rad 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.120 scoring nine points to that. I've only got him scoring 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.960 nine points to that, gentleman. I just think it's gonna 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.280 be a real tough time for this Baltimore offense. To that, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.840 I think des Brito catch some passes. But in terms 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.880 of trying to score against this team, but I think 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.600 it's gonna be tough. I mean, they're down. You know 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.000 you don't have Mark andrews Um he's out. You you 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.440 got your running back issues so and oh, by the way, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.240 you have a Mark. So yeah, it's gonna be tough. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.320 Did you got you got him putting up with twenty 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.440 four points? Okay, nostre domas, I don't know, man, y'all 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.280 sleeping on on RG three out here man and Gus 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.400 Edwards is not a scrub back there. I know they 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.480 you know, they're missing JK. Dobbins and they're missing mark Ingram, 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.880 But Gus Edwards literally eats on the Steelers. I think 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.160 he averages like eighty yards on the ground every time 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.360 he goes against this team. So look, I know they're 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.760 missing some some dynamic pieces. They don't got the tight 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.440 end Mark Andrews and I mentioned to other people out there, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.640 but I think with RG three in the game, it 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.360 at least gives them a better opportunity to pass the ball. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.360 I know he's no Lamar Jackson with that dual threat ability, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.120 but I think he presents a more accurate pastor and 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.920 we might see more to the receivers in this game plan. Okay, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.120 so you guys have played the league and you've dealt 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.560 with bye weeks, and but what about the fact that 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.600 these teams haven't had a whole lot of practice. I 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.720 think the Steelers have been able to practice two times 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.920 um since last Wednesday. I mean this has been an 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.160 issue where because of the COVID outbreak, these teams haven't 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.120 been able to just get out here and keep their 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.400 normal routine in practice, and it's cold, by the way, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.160 they're talking about. What's the temperature they're talking about here, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.640 they're saying, with the wind chill, there's gonna be twenty 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.240 eight degrees, you know, Wendy out there. So I mean, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.400 these are these are this is a very interesting thing 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.400 that we're watching here. This is very abnormal of what 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.920 we see in the national football You've played in the league, guys, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.720 so you want to tell me what's what is it 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.720 like when your routine is broken up this much? Mccraig, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.440 I mean, listen for them. The good thing about it 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.160 is these are division opponents, and these guys know each other. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.520 Their offenses have not changed. Ben Roethlisberger is still running 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.960 the same offense, running running every once in a while, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.920 try to get James kind of started and then then 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.240 go to empty set. And the Ravens are still going 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.000 to run the same offense that they had with Lamar 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.440 Jackson running those tight end heavy sets and and using 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.559 a lot of play action. And RG three can still run, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:58.920 so I'm sure you'll get them out there on the 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.959 edge as well. So that's a good thing for them, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.000 and stuff that they've seen already, even though they haven't 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.480 been able to be on the practice field. But it's 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.720 it's it's it's a little strange when your routine gets broken. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:13.120 And this is probably the most difficult time that they 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.679 that they've been through because they are supposed to play, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.560 then they're not playing and they don't know when they're 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.480 gonna play. Then they move in a day back. So 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.760 I think it's a little difficult than it threw them 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.440 off a little bit, But it's a division game. These 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.920 guys they know how to play in their professional so 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.440 I think I think it'll be a little bit more 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.400 crisp than than you expect. Yeah, McCray, you're right about that. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.720 I mean, these two are division opponents. They know each 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.840 other like the back of each other's hands, so I 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.040 don't really see you know, practice time being that influential 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.200 on this game. But I will say this, I mean, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.120 these are two veteran teams and it ain't like you know, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.280 these guys are led by you know, rookies or guys 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.240 in their second or third year. These guys are led 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.880 by guys that's been in the league for at least 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.560 five years. So I think they have a routine down 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.360 pat even if it gets kind of screwy with the schedule. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.400 I think they understand how to warm up for each 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.240 game and how to get ready for each game, because 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.679 these these are better in guys. And so for me, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.080 like mccraize said, I don't see it being asked sloppy 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.440 as kind of you know, penalties all over the place. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.880 But I do see this game having a lot of 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.800 big plays. I mean defensively, you haven't been practicing, you 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.160 haven't really broke down the scheme yet, so there could 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:15.400 be a lot of big plays in this one. And 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.679 I think that's where RG three will shine. And when 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.240 you say, wait, Church, I'm sorry when and when you 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.640 say I do see do you mean like literally since 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.800 you're sitting there watching the game or or is it 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:35.720 it's something that you how that's how we're doing that. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:41.360 Friends like y'all who needs and you keep saying I 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.440 see going, yeah, I'm doing my job. Over here. You 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.400 see the toys under there, you see what's going on 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.679 at the church. I'm looking at it right over here. Okay, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.920 I got it all right over here. Three gets ready 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.920 to take his first snap. And by the way, Mike 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.520 McCarthy said, it is press conference this morning that the 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.640 cow Boys are going to watch the game as a team, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.000 so that that's what they're doing right now, and said 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.440 they're gonna break it up in a position group. But 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.440 at the star right now, the Cowboy players are watching 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.280 this game since it is their next opponent. Just watching 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.840 RG three, by the way, completed the past. You guys 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.959 were in the league when this young man got there? 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.160 Are you surprised that the former Highsto Trophy winner from 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.959 Baylor did not capitalize more off his Rookie of the 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.880 Year campaign and become a player like a Deshaun Watson, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.240 a Dak Prescott, or even a Lamar Jackson in the league. Look, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.719 you know, I'm gonna say this, I'm not surprised. And 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.760 there's two reasons why I'm not surprised. One is, yes, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.679 he had a phenomenal rookie season. We were all witnessed 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.240 to that. You know, we played him twice and I 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.480 think that was the only time the Redskins swept the 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.040 Dolls Cowboys and I was unfortunately a part of that. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.040 But he had a phenomenal rookie season. But the thing 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.120 that kind of hampered him and the thing that I 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.160 think brought him back down to Earth was one he 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.480 had injury. He tore his knee up in that playoff 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.600 game too. I just think the coaches in the NFL, 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.880 they're too good. The defensive coordinators are too good. They 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.079 had that year, they had that off season to kind 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.440 of get the tape built up on him and understand 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.480 what he does well and what he struggles with, and 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.680 they were able to take advantage of that. Compounded with 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.679 the injury that I think he never really got a 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.080 chance to fully heal from before he went back out there. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.400 I just think it was just a compound of that 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.719 and it kind of brought his game back down to Earth. Yeah. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.200 Same here. I think it's similar to what they're doing 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.920 right now currently with Lamar Jackson. It's a system that 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.400 they're running. You know, remember he had Alphred Morris who 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.680 also had a crazy year that year as far as statistics, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.600 and they would run that play action and then hit 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.200 that bang gate right behind you and they would do 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.760 that all game because the safeties and linebackers had to 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.600 respect the run. So he got a lot out of 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.800 that system. And then you would hear a lot of 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.840 people telling RG through hey man, you gotta learn how 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.839 to slide you gotta not take those hits. And every 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.320 game you would see it and you'd be like, bro, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.280 you're not listening, and you know, and they caught up 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:58.959 to him. And once you see him out there with 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.760 that knee braids, he hadn't been in the same sense 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.679 in church once again, another time that the Cowboys had 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:17.840 been swept by the Redskins was win. By the way, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:24.240 do you remember who the offensive coordinator was RG three's 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.760 rookie year in Washington. Do you remember who you want? 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:32.400 Was that Shannahan? It was his son. It was his 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.120 son was coordinator and Big Mike was the was the 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.200 head coach, and they won the divisions, the head coaching 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.400 Bookie of the Year and Alfred Morris had that outstanding 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.280 rookie season and that was that clear. I will always 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:49.040 remember that final game Cowboys against Washington and Rob Ryan 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.800 is the defensive coordinator, remember Brady Pepina being out there 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.640 the Cowboy defense. That defense was decimated and kept the 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.360 Cowboys in the game. It was, I thought, a fantastic 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.560 defensive effort for shorthanded Cowboys team. And here it was 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.280 the game came down to the offense needing to get 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.040 down the field and make a play and rollo through 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.360 and I think it was almost triple coverage and ended 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:12.360 up getting picked off and Washington won the division. Yeah, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:13.920 it was a rough man, I was a rough pass 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.040 right here. That whole year, Man was tough. But we 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.840 bounced back. We did bounce back eventually. But man, that 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.480 was a tough year. That in twenty fifteen were the 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.080 two worst years in Cowboys history. To me, I don't church. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.480 I don't know which one, which one? What's worse, all right? 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.760 Being totally out of it or losing the last game 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.440 of the season to go to the playoffs three years straight. Like, 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.680 I don't know. I think the worst of me was 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.520 being so close and not being able to get there. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.440 Since I've never actually got to the tournament. See, to me, 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.080 it's opposite, man. It's that when you know you don't 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.040 have a chance, like twenty fifteen, it makes it hard 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.680 to get up and go to work each day. I mean, 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.680 you get up, you get out the bed, your feet 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.920 start hurting, and you're like, man, why am I doing this? Man? 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.600 We don't have no chance to succeed this year. Each 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.640 and every time you knew going out, dear, yeah, we 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.720 might survive for the first half, but they gonna eventually 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.920 blow us out. I mean, it just made it hard 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.120 to come to work, man. So I gotta say, when 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.440 you're out of it, it's tough. It's tough. I'm with you, mccraye. 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.560 Three straight years, the final game, you'll lose each one 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.280 of them, and all of them in just heartbreaking fashion 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.040 where you were right there the game was winnable. It 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.600 wasn't like that. That's the part that I just look at. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.600 I just say, my goodness, gracious, well, you know what, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.600 why can't the Cowboys win these games? And that Washington game, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.560 I just go back to that when I just remember 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.520 you were hoping that the defense could just put you 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.200 in the position, and the defense did its part and 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.440 it was the offense that failed. And Tony throwing the interception. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.840 That was the thing. I was like, wow, you know, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.280 you you know, because so many times we saw Tony 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.240 get it done, and to see him not get it 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.360 done and throw the pick, I was I was literally shocked. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.720 I just remember being shocked, like wow. And that was 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.680 one of those games too where they flexed into it, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.000 so NBC got the game so that man, I was working, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.400 and so you know, they and everybody the TV station, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.720 We're all ready to do you know, the post game coverage, 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.000 and you just deflated. You're like, wow, man, it was 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.600 right there. So I'm with you. I'm with you with 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.400 prey because all three of those games, NBC flexed into 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.720 you know, they put it on the prime time game 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.520 on TV, and the Cowboys couldn't get it done. That 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.679 was that was a part of what also, in my opinion, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.440 led to that negativity for Jason Garrett. He said, different, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.520 if Jason Garrett wins one, if or two or even 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.480 three of these NFC championship games, he's looked at differently 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.560 and he's probably the head coach now, but he should 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.480 bank though he listened. We did lose to every other 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.560 team in the division those three years. But like Church says, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.760 it was two seasons where he shook back and outside 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.920 of them changed having to change the rule with Dad's 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.639 actually catching that ball. We don't know what happens with 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.200 Jason Gerett and how far they go into that playoff run. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.960 So I mean, you know, you gotta pick and choose. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.640 The Church is still on the kool a, but I'm 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.400 still like, hey, you know it was it was bad, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.600 but we were competitive a lot of a lot of 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.119 the seasons that JG was here, opposite of what we 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.840 look like now. 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