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Speaker 1: with my Intrepid crew Daniel Rome with Terror, Suzanne French,
Speaker 1: Jamie Sugarman. This is season seven, episode thirteen. I'd rather
Speaker 1: be in Philadelphia, my hometown, ladies. What did you think?
Speaker 3: Good episode?
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's not just season seven good, it's
Speaker 2: gilmore good. And I'm concerned about Suzanne's face.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't dislike it. I just thought it
Speaker 4: was kind of a nothing burger for me, Like it
Speaker 4: just really it didn't really move the story along, like
Speaker 4: you could pull that episode out and not even miss it,
Speaker 4: like it was fine. I just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just said it was a callback to when Richard
Speaker 5: went to the hospital last time.
Speaker 3: I thought it was more agree Yeah with Amy, I disagree.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was more this.
Speaker 2: I thought Kelly Bishop was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: She was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Emily and Babet were highlights for me in this episode.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 4: Zukrie, oh on, I thought it was too perfect.
Speaker 3: But I feel like it was a moment that you
Speaker 3: needed him to be perfect and he delivered.
Speaker 2: Because it's just showing the juxtaposition with Christopher.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yea, but.
Speaker 4: Luke showing us the juxtaposition with Christopher, Like we didn't
Speaker 4: correct both of them. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think we did.
Speaker 5: The fact that a kid that just graduated college made
Speaker 5: it a priority and a grown man. I thought it
Speaker 5: was powerful.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I just didn't I guess
Speaker 4: I didn't really care for the writing. I thought there
Speaker 4: were too many monologues, like just so drawn out. It
Speaker 4: reminded me of those early episodes of season seven where
Speaker 4: it was just all everybody felt weird and they were
Speaker 4: just all talking so much without saying anything. That was
Speaker 4: kind of what it felt like for me. So I
Speaker 4: don't know. I like the logan thing. Yeah, I liked
Speaker 4: that he was there, but just the dialogue I was
Speaker 4: a little bit bored with. And when he says he
Speaker 4: said something like there's nowhere I'd rather be than here
Speaker 4: with you, I was like, oh, that's nice, But I
Speaker 4: thought I said cheese ball, like it just was so
Speaker 4: it was too perfect.
Speaker 2: I respectfully disagree. She was needed it. She needed it,
Speaker 2: someone steady, she needed she kept worrying about his work,
Speaker 2: his work, and so he's saying to her, this is
Speaker 2: where I need to be right now.
Speaker 1: Do about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4: I'm just and also I think that goes but this
Speaker 4: was kind of blaw for me, Like I didn't dislike it,
Speaker 4: but I didn't love it.
Speaker 3: I think that goes back to what we said about
Speaker 3: the comparison between Logan and Christopher, because that's when Rory says,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for being here, and he's like,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be that. I think I think it was
Speaker 3: more of a I get why you think, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: get why you think it's cheesy, but I felt like
Speaker 3: it was needed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: The specific one I was thinking was when they were
Speaker 4: in the hospital, like they were sitting in the waiting
Speaker 4: room and he says something something.
Speaker 5: Him yeah, work keeps calling him oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: Thought thoughts, I want to hear what you think.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Suzanne and Amy. I liked it.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I got some laughs. I could ease
Speaker 1: into it, but I I think what we've done here
Speaker 1: in season seven is is the show has painted itself
Speaker 1: into a corner that it's can't get out of, and
Speaker 1: no matter what they do, it still feels awkward. Like
Speaker 1: you know, the book the Boomerang is coming around to
Speaker 1: Luke and Laureli, but it's so deeply buried in the
Speaker 1: episode that it's really kind of seems inconsequential, as you know,
Speaker 1: like a D storyline or an F storyline, when really
Speaker 1: all they're focused on is is Richard's health and you
Speaker 1: know Emily's reaction. I mean, this was basically Emily's episode
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, and she was fantastic, but it
Speaker 1: was I don't think the weight distribution for the main
Speaker 1: characters was properly distributed.
Speaker 2: Let's see where you're what you're saying. I think that
Speaker 2: the episode goes to Laurelai and Emily because we really
Speaker 2: saw something in their relationship in my opinion in this episode.
Speaker 2: I don't know, as we go see by scene, I'm
Speaker 2: interested what you guys think, but I thought, oh, we're
Speaker 2: really we're seeing some progress. Dare I say, like, because
Speaker 2: she was so frustrated with Emily doing all the business
Speaker 2: of you know, Richard's life and the fish and the
Speaker 2: this and the that, and then you have that scene
Speaker 2: in the hospital, like drug store, I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, hospital, convenience store, whatever, that whatever, that little
Speaker 2: gift shop, and I thought, oh, that really came to
Speaker 2: a moment. I don't know. I really liked this episode.
Speaker 1: And I think, sorry, go ahead, susan Oh.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I think they did a
Speaker 4: good job of showing how everyone reacted to the trauma differently.
Speaker 4: Like Emily was very transactional, laurl I kind of checked
Speaker 4: out a little bit, like she was just kind of flat,
Speaker 4: and Rory was like, let me run around and pretend
Speaker 4: I'm helping by grabbing every object that he owns. Like
Speaker 4: it was just I liked the kind of the contrast
Speaker 4: with how they all handled it differently.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just true that's how people read. Everybody reacts
Speaker 1: differently in a crisis.
Speaker 2: Only reacted how I expected her to react. That's exactly
Speaker 2: what I would expect of her, and Laura Lai sort
Speaker 2: of pushing on it but yet not opening up. And
Speaker 2: then finally they have that moment and I think Roy's
Speaker 2: traumatized by what happened and just so hopeful he's going
Speaker 2: to be okay, and she has that moment where She's like,
Speaker 2: he's a really good teacher. Oh wait, he's not going
Speaker 2: to be there next week, Like she's really to me,
Speaker 2: reacting exactly how a college aged person would sort of react.
Speaker 2: I thought Logan really stepped up. I thought Christopher's complete dumbass,
Speaker 2: Like f you, Christopher, you tool bag?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean, and I, as we know, I like him,
Speaker 2: But that's that's an s H I T T y
Speaker 2: thing to do, Like what is where the hell was he?
Speaker 5: I don't care if you said two days before you
Speaker 5: were getting divorced, you still show up?
Speaker 1: Like what this is for the course. This is deeply
Speaker 1: embedded in Christopher's adult DNA where he doesn't show up.
Speaker 1: He doesn't come through look with parents, it's it's one
Speaker 1: of two options. You either show up or you don't.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter's divorced or separate. Whatever you show up. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: He consistently does not, So this was not a surprise.
Speaker 1: I could see this coming from ten miles away.
Speaker 3: And showed up. He just bothered me. So he was
Speaker 3: So he's like I wish he just never showed up.
Speaker 1: And then and then he and then he has and
Speaker 1: then he has the nerve to say to.
Speaker 2: Luke shouldn't be here, Yeah, such a he gives him
Speaker 2: that look.
Speaker 4: I love that part, right.
Speaker 5: I also kind of love like the first time that
Speaker 5: Luke shows up, Laura I said, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 5: like Christopher is going to be here soon, and he
Speaker 5: knew he wasn't there and showed up again, you know,
Speaker 5: like I just like I kind of I liked that
Speaker 5: character decision for Luke because he totally you know, like
Speaker 5: he knew he wasn't there, so he was going to
Speaker 5: show up again.
Speaker 2: Also, I love that Luke immediately went and sort of says,
Speaker 2: I just immediately came and then goes and runs all
Speaker 2: the errands for Emily and he's happy to do it. Like,
Speaker 2: we have to remember this guy's heartbroken too. He's heartbroken
Speaker 2: by her she broke up with him and married someone else,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't care because he puts her first always,
Speaker 2: and Christopher put himself first. And I am mad about it.
Speaker 1: You know. It was also a stretch for me to
Speaker 1: watch laurle I not understand why her mother was being
Speaker 1: so transactional in this moment, because laurele I sort of
Speaker 1: portrays a wisdom in human interaction a lot of times,
Speaker 1: so for her to be so out of touch with
Speaker 1: what her own mother is going through and can't empathize
Speaker 1: with that in any way, to the point where it
Speaker 1: makes her angry and openly like she just walked away
Speaker 1: from her mother, left her at the table in an
Speaker 1: hour of her hour of need. So I thought that
Speaker 1: was inconsistent in the writing as well.
Speaker 2: It's the fair point. I really like the scene. I
Speaker 2: know we'll go through it where they're eating.
Speaker 1: Right, but I like the scene because, you know, Emily
Speaker 1: got to say, hey, you've been married for four minutes.
Speaker 1: I've been married for forty years. Yeah, and then this
Speaker 1: is what we did, and here's the history of it,
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm doing it, like as if
Speaker 1: she was owed, as if Laurel I was owed an explanation.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I like the come around to
Speaker 2: the milk dead scene because it's like they really made
Speaker 2: some progress, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Susan, you know, honestly, if Emily,
Speaker 1: all I could think of is how many caps is
Speaker 1: Emily going to lose in this scene because she's eating
Speaker 1: milk DUTs, because they're all going to just yank them
Speaker 1: off their posts.
Speaker 2: Scott, I love you so much because I literally was like,
Speaker 2: this is so bad for their teeth, This is so
Speaker 2: bad for their teeth. I would not eat a milk
Speaker 2: dud because it just gets so stuck, and I thought.
Speaker 5: For acting, you know what I mean, because it's like.
Speaker 1: Would by the end of that scene, I.
Speaker 4: I loved that she even wanted a milk dud like
Speaker 4: it was so un Emily. It was so fun to
Speaker 4: see her being like a normal person that eats candy.
Speaker 3: I also loved her in a track suit.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did. That was That was
Speaker 1: That was Emily at uh you know up to past
Speaker 1: volume ten, that was eleven. You know, she was just
Speaker 1: all long. This was so her episode.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really and she sure was good.
Speaker 1: Who's going to send off Size Romo?
Speaker 5: This is season seven, episode thirteen, I'd Rather Be in
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Air date February six, two thousand and seven. While Lorlai, Rory,
Speaker 5: and Emily wait at the hospital for news of Richard's condition,
Speaker 5: Logan borrows a helicopter so that he can be there
Speaker 5: with Rory, and Luke arrives to help out and ends
Speaker 5: up running errands for Emily, but dun dundune Chris is
Speaker 5: nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2: Tool bag.
Speaker 4: They keep calling it a chopper chopper, like that's a
Speaker 4: corrige thing to say.
Speaker 2: One chopper maybe, but like five at some point.
Speaker 1: You're gonna chopped in from mon Talk. I'd love to
Speaker 1: say that just chopped talk, by the way, which is
Speaker 1: a very beautiful part of the country.
Speaker 2: All right, Susan hit it, all right.
Speaker 4: I do have to say Rory's hair looked really good
Speaker 4: in this.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I have that too. It looks really good.
Speaker 4: I like that, like pulled back from the bangs.
Speaker 3: I thought that was so early two thousands with the.
Speaker 4: It was like curled at the end. It was really cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Great.
Speaker 4: So Babet is taking one of laurel I's plants out
Speaker 4: of her house. And Babet was another highlight in this
Speaker 4: episode for me, like every every scene with she had
Speaker 4: the dog on the porch.
Speaker 2: She was when she goes to Luke, I really like that.
Speaker 4: We'll get to Yeah, she was great. And she hears
Speaker 4: Lorelei's phone ringing and asks if it's her pants alarm
Speaker 4: and then so eventually laurel I answers the phone and
Speaker 4: she says, oh my gosh, I'll be right there and
Speaker 4: runs away, leaving Babbett standing there with the plant.
Speaker 2: Somehow bab knew what happened, so maybe.
Speaker 4: She must have found out I guess maybe or something. Yeah, somehow,
Speaker 4: somehow she heard. But Babet's making a jungle in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I want to go any further
Speaker 4: than that.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody better that you've ever seen on television
Speaker 1: in terms of comedic acting? That?
Speaker 2: She's great?
Speaker 1: She's completely overwhelmed with some kind of physical task.
Speaker 2: She's really great.
Speaker 1: It's like the tightrope and is she going to fall
Speaker 1: off it? I mean, it's just amazing tension she creates
Speaker 1: with her work.
Speaker 4: She's she's awesome.
Speaker 1: Can't take your eyes off her.
Speaker 4: I know, funny, this is going to be.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say this. This may be
Speaker 2: a totally controversial statement, but for me at this time,
Speaker 2: Sally is funnier with the physical things than Melissa. Now,
Speaker 2: I understand Melissa McCarthy is iconic and owned her craft
Speaker 2: or whatever one says, but Sally really nails it every time.
Speaker 2: So I'm just.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they're both on a very very very
Speaker 1: high level. Yeah, for sure, and wouldn't and wouldn't to
Speaker 1: show between those two be something to behold, right, you
Speaker 1: imagine that mother do what if they were the Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls part? Do you know?
Speaker 4: And I think if the show went on, they didn't
Speaker 4: give Melissa as many opportunities as they did in the beginning.
Speaker 4: Like in the first season, Suki was very flat sy
Speaker 4: and she was always falling down and like there was
Speaker 4: just more opportunities for that physical comedy, and it seemed
Speaker 4: like they kind of took that away from her as
Speaker 4: the show went on. All Right, So Rory sitting in
Speaker 4: the hospital, her cell phone's ringing Laura I doesn't know
Speaker 4: where to find her.
Speaker 2: And she's out of it, which is very I thought
Speaker 2: that played well. The woman kind of behind her, yeah,
Speaker 2: how you feel, just sort of totally in shock and
Speaker 2: like right, and so.
Speaker 4: She's trying to explain to Lurlai what happened. Like you
Speaker 4: can tell Rory had been paying attention. She knows the words,
Speaker 4: she knows the acronyms. Yeah, but they still just they
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of information because Richard still have
Speaker 4: tests done. Lorelai is trying to get a hold of Christopher.
Speaker 4: But then why is to Rory and says, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: he's on his way, he's coming. She doesn't want to
Speaker 4: admit yet that she can't find him.
Speaker 2: Can I double down on the d wordness of Christopher? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's you're he's her dad? Like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: Like go even if you're mad at Loralai, go because
Speaker 2: your daughter.
Speaker 3: Needs you, right and you kidding me?
Speaker 2: And he's got such a close relationship with Richard, it
Speaker 2: just doesn't track for me.
Speaker 1: As Amy. I have a question for you about Christopher.
Speaker 1: Why are you surprised?
Speaker 6: I don't know, no one's surprised.
Speaker 1: Why Why the outrage when we know how this is
Speaker 1: going to play out? This is the character's purpose in.
Speaker 2: You make a great point, because I just keep always
Speaker 2: wanting to see the best in him.
Speaker 1: But isn't it great even though we know he's gonna
Speaker 1: do this stuff, we still get angry. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: avoid it. You can't so let.
Speaker 2: Down by him in this. I think it's because of
Speaker 2: his relationship with Richard, like like, rise above, dude.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I expect anything from him, but I
Speaker 3: was just more annoyed for Rory and Lorlai. I'm like,
Speaker 3: just like, that's the thing is like just show up
Speaker 3: for them. It's not even like expecting much from him.
Speaker 3: It's like more for the girls.
Speaker 2: Right where was he?
Speaker 4: And you? Like Na even mentions it in one of
Speaker 4: the phone calls, She's like, everyone has been reaching out
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: When she finally lost it at the end, like where
Speaker 2: the heck are you?
Speaker 4: Like, the one person that's supposed to be there for
Speaker 4: you is your husband, and even if you're fighting, that's
Speaker 4: like when something's going on with the family, you're there.
Speaker 1: He's probably looking at it with his new yacht agent
Speaker 1: looking at yacht.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he was. All right, well I'll
Speaker 2: take you.
Speaker 4: All right, so are right. So Laurelai shows up and
Speaker 4: then eventually Emily comes in in her track suit and
Speaker 4: typical you know, standard Emily that we've come to know
Speaker 4: and love. She demands to see her husband right now, and.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 4: Has a funny little interaction with the nurse who was like,
Speaker 4: who the heck are you? And then I liked it
Speaker 4: after after Emily walked away and Laurelai was like mouthing
Speaker 4: to the nurse, I'm sorry, that was cute, And then
Speaker 4: Logan arrives, So now everybody's there except Christopher, and Emila
Speaker 4: even asks where is he? Like she's noticed that. Okay,
Speaker 4: the whole clan has gathered here, even Logan's here on
Speaker 4: his chopper, but Christopher is not.
Speaker 5: Here accepting the tea from Logan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is right. When she calls out, that's a that's
Speaker 2: a good boy. Like however she said it, and later
Speaker 2: you see Lorli acknowledge it, and I'm glad Lorlai acknowledged
Speaker 2: it because you know what, whatever if he was too
Speaker 2: syrupy sweet, he showed up and didn't falter, I'll go
Speaker 2: to the house. We got this, like I genuinely know
Speaker 2: how much he cares about Rory, which.
Speaker 4: Right, right. So then the doctor comes back in and says, okay,
Speaker 4: we do need to do open heart surgery. So then Emily,
Speaker 4: going through her mental checklist, she wants to know about
Speaker 4: his education.
Speaker 3: And oh my god, I love.
Speaker 2: Legit.
Speaker 4: I would do that, yeah, and then she cites all
Speaker 4: of it back to Richard. She's like, okay, the surgeon
Speaker 4: was Yale undergrad and Harvard Medical School, and Richard's like just.
Speaker 3: I like he was like, i'no the.
Speaker 2: Because that's her job. You guys, like that's her job
Speaker 2: and she is so good at her job. And yes,
Speaker 2: it might seem dated now, but meaning you know, a
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say it, like we all
Speaker 2: have careers, right.
Speaker 5: But like her female taking care of her husband is
Speaker 5: the job, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Job and she loves that job. And that's why that
Speaker 2: scene for me in the gift shop is so like
Speaker 2: I get it, Like I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then this is when Richard gives us the
Speaker 4: quote I'd rather be in Philadelphia, which obviously is the
Speaker 4: title of the episode, which was a W. C. Fields quote.
Speaker 4: I did not know that until, I mean till the
Speaker 4: first time I watched the episode. And then Emily and
Speaker 4: Laurel I are bickering over a pillowcase, and then Richard
Speaker 4: says he'd rather be in Tucson. And then I'm I'm
Speaker 4: going to give my favorite line here because I cracked
Speaker 4: up when Emily was talking about the fashion in Tucson
Speaker 4: and she goes men and sandals spare me.
Speaker 2: I also like, have had a rough time in Tucson,
Speaker 2: so I was like, I don't want to ban in Tucson.
Speaker 2: I don't I might be going out of order, forgive me,
Speaker 2: but Also when Laura tells Luke he looked small, and
Speaker 2: then later in the episode he looked tall, and I thought, God,
Speaker 2: and Luke says, yet, I think, is that when Luke
Speaker 2: says he's a big man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said in the message to Christopher, she said
Speaker 4: he looked small. Okay, okay, But then when Luke came
Speaker 4: to the hospital, she said to Luke that he was tall.
Speaker 2: So it was the surgery and she knew he was
Speaker 2: okay at that point. Yeah. I really liked the way
Speaker 2: they wrote that. I think, look for me, and again,
Speaker 2: this episode does not have many flaws for me, It's
Speaker 2: really good. So anyway, keep going.
Speaker 4: So then we go to Luke's diner and we see
Speaker 4: Zach Is filling in for Lane because she's presumably now
Speaker 4: too pregnant to work. We don't actually see Lane in
Speaker 4: this episode. Yes, no training whatsoever. He's just jumping out.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a small diner. How much training do
Speaker 4: you need?
Speaker 2: Scott hiring the husband makes no sense.
Speaker 1: What's the man? You know? It helps to have connections.
Speaker 4: And Zach is thrilled to be on the inside. He's
Speaker 4: got all the inside knowledge and.
Speaker 3: The backstage pats.
Speaker 2: He said, what we're all thinking I could do anything
Speaker 2: to these people's they would never know. He's like, not
Speaker 2: that I would, but I could. And literally I think
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: All the time, all the time.
Speaker 1: Did you see the extras turn around and give those
Speaker 1: horrified faces?
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm not going to say, but there was
Speaker 2: a time in the not so distant past when Danielle
Speaker 2: and I were at a restaurant and they brought us
Speaker 2: the wrong meal and they put it down and then
Speaker 2: realized it was for a different table. And the fact
Speaker 2: that they picked it up and took it over to
Speaker 2: the other table after I'd leaned in and breathed on
Speaker 2: it to me out. So restaurant, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: you're gonna take.
Speaker 3: Your usually they can't, right, Like, they have.
Speaker 2: To know it's dropped.
Speaker 5: They shouldn't.
Speaker 4: They should remake it a restaurant.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, we were all in the same group, so
Speaker 2: maybe they considered it like I just put it in
Speaker 2: front of the wrong place, but it still wagged me out.
Speaker 2: And then I won't say, but Danielle did notice the
Speaker 2: tie went into the sauces. It was so bad.
Speaker 5: The poor guy does that on his white, crisp clean shirt.
Speaker 2: So yeah, restaurants stressed me out. They really do.
Speaker 3: Scott.
Speaker 4: When you mentioned the extras in the background, it made
Speaker 4: me think of something I wanted to mention. In that
Speaker 4: hospital scene. I don't know if you guys noticed, but
Speaker 4: there was an extra in the background of that first
Speaker 4: hospital scene that kept looking at the camera and it
Speaker 4: was it was.
Speaker 6: Really sitting behind Rory No the Wales see where Emily
Speaker 6: was there, and they had all the food in front
Speaker 6: of them on the table because they couldn't like decide
Speaker 6: what to It was like from a different angle where.
Speaker 4: That woman was sitting, there was a man with big
Speaker 4: eyebrows and he had a magazine but he kept like
Speaker 4: looking like I guess he was like watching the action
Speaker 4: or something, but he was looking like right at the camera.
Speaker 4: It was really distracting.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love a background actor.
Speaker 4: So all right, so we're at Luke's diner, Zach's having
Speaker 4: the time of his life. Babet comes in and this
Speaker 4: is when she tells Luke that Laura's dad had the
Speaker 4: heart attack. She thought he would want to know, and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: I know. It was good for her to do that,
Speaker 4: and so then of course then Luke's wheels are turning
Speaker 4: and he's gonna he's gonna get together or get the
Speaker 4: I guess that wasn't when he got the food together,
Speaker 4: but he's gonna go see Laurel I. So then we
Speaker 4: go back to the hospital where Lorelai is leaving the
Speaker 4: second phone message for Christopher. This is when Suki calls,
Speaker 4: and so she's talking to Suki, and the whole Michelle
Speaker 4: says blah blah blah, tell Michelle, blah blah blah. Oh,
Speaker 4: Laurel I says blah. Like the whole conversation going between
Speaker 4: Michelle Tsuki to Laurel I to Suki to Michelle. I
Speaker 4: could have done without that whole thing was annoying.
Speaker 1: I agree that was unusual. That was an unusual scene.
Speaker 4: I mean, Michelle has worked at that end for how
Speaker 4: many years? He can't figure out where to get a
Speaker 4: roll away from, Like I don't know, I just.
Speaker 2: Have really like she's in a crisis, and you're like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's weird, which is at this wasn't
Speaker 2: funny or clever. That was probably the only scene that
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, I liked her calling Suki, but I just
Speaker 3: didn't need the Michelle part of it.
Speaker 4: Right, exactly, yeah, exactly, and Suki was cute. She's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I want to send so and so over with whatever
Speaker 4: it was. I forget what it was, cookies or something.
Speaker 4: So we see like Laurelis getting all this support from
Speaker 4: everyone except her husband.
Speaker 2: And may briefly interject with one thing that just came
Speaker 2: to my mind. So sorry, you know how the muffin
Speaker 2: tops were in last week. Thank you to the person
Speaker 2: who wrote us about the Seinfeld episode. Fill More Girls
Speaker 2: did not invent muffin tops. Seinfeld did it earlier. I
Speaker 2: apologized for the interruption, but felt that it was important too.
Speaker 4: So Emily's on the phone canceling something or other. This
Speaker 4: is the part where Logan made that comment about I
Speaker 4: wrote in my notes, I wrote two perfect because this
Speaker 4: is when Logan said something like because he wasn't answering
Speaker 4: his phone, and Rory was like, shouldn't you answer that?
Speaker 4: He's like I have something like there's nothing more important
Speaker 4: than me here with you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, right, it's so rude. If he was her
Speaker 2: grandpa's in a hospital bed, what's he gonna.
Speaker 4: Be like, I gotta take a call?
Speaker 5: Like that's kind of a yeah. It's also it's the
Speaker 5: it's not even charming. It's the thing you should do. Yeah,
Speaker 5: your significantther is going through something like that.
Speaker 2: I would seem low again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I maybe I'm not getting my point across. I'm
Speaker 4: not having a problem with what he was doing. I
Speaker 4: just thought that the dialogue was cheesy. I just maybe
Speaker 4: you think he's a little chmarmie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it was impacting for a twenty three, twenty
Speaker 4: four year old.
Speaker 5: However, I did not want him to change. I'm really
Speaker 5: nervous you will. I am fully nervous.
Speaker 1: I think you can be a real gentleman. It's went.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think he was raised right. He's got
Speaker 2: tough parents. But I do think manners doing the right thing,
Speaker 2: even though he rebelled against it. I do think he
Speaker 2: was taught like, yeah, there's a family crisis, you step
Speaker 2: up up and he considers them family.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he don't. I'm I'm team Logan, but the
Speaker 2: movies are coming way. The movies are coming.
Speaker 4: Way too fast for me that I'm like, Uh, I'm
Speaker 4: not disagreeing that he would be that he would should
Speaker 4: be like that, or that he was like that. That's
Speaker 4: not what I'm disagreeing.
Speaker 2: With anyone dreading the movies. Sorry to interrupt, I just
Speaker 2: so many things are happening now that they're getting me
Speaker 2: so close to the movies that I'm just like, I'll
Speaker 2: shut it.
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking I'm actually looking forward to them.
Speaker 2: I like the movies.
Speaker 4: I will say those to everybody that before we talk
Speaker 4: about them, you should watch each one at least twice.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a great note, really great because the first.
Speaker 4: Time it's because it's different, like remember night Yeah, fell
Speaker 4: off rhythm. So watch it once and sit there and
Speaker 4: be like, what the hell was that? And then watch
Speaker 4: it a second time and then it would make more sense.
Speaker 2: That's a great note. Okay, that's an excellent note for everybody.
Speaker 2: Continue anyways, So have a lot of homework.
Speaker 4: It is a lot of home I know.
Speaker 3: And their longer episodes, yeah, they're an hour or.
Speaker 2: Two hours, go fast like they might we might have
Speaker 2: to split him into two parts each. So we watch
Speaker 2: half twice, half twice, half tway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think we're gonna have a lot to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, I do too, So I thenk
Speaker 2: it's gonna be well listening. Thanks for listening to our
Speaker 2: production meeting.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So then Luke shows up and he says, Laurla kind
Speaker 4: of gave him the brush off because she was trying
Speaker 4: to imply that Christopher was about to show up.
Speaker 2: Did not love that.
Speaker 4: Then Emily gives him an assignment. He has to go
Speaker 4: pick up the car. And then she said, you do
Speaker 4: know how to drive a European car, don't you like?
Speaker 4: They drive differently than non European cars.
Speaker 3: Also, I like when she was like, check the faculty
Speaker 3: lot and any other lot, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Nts there are.
Speaker 5: Checked the whole camp.
Speaker 2: There's like Yale, thousands of cars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so go get the car, Go shovel the path,
Speaker 4: go meet the fish man. And then Logan and Rory
Speaker 4: end up taking Laurelized car to go get the fish
Speaker 4: because Logan arrived in helicopter chopper a chopper and yes,
Speaker 4: such a talk, as we find out as they're walking away,
Speaker 4: they have that little conversation and then Laurel I looks.
Speaker 2: At her phone.
Speaker 4: Still no voicemail, no calls, you know, we just are
Speaker 4: aculle aware that Christopher is not around. Then, so this
Speaker 4: next scene I liked. This is when Babat was trying
Speaker 4: to walk Paul Anka and he didn't want to go
Speaker 4: down the porch steps. I thought the dog did a
Speaker 4: great acting job in this scene.
Speaker 1: That Grat should have been nominated for a doggie or
Speaker 1: something that a board for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on point.
Speaker 3: I also liked that they finally brought back like the
Speaker 3: quirks that paul Anka has. It's been a minute since
Speaker 3: we've seen that. We haven't seen it the season at all.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: That's a good point because when she first got him
Speaker 4: and he was like afraid of.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you have to like turn around seven
Speaker 3: times or you know the things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I thought I thought that was a good scene.
Speaker 4: And then bad BET's trying to support Laureal I. She's like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna be fine and talking about Richard's
Speaker 4: chi and all that.
Speaker 2: How sexy he is. Yeah, hearing it. But I loved
Speaker 2: it because I kind of agree, like Richard's a stud.
Speaker 4: Then we go to Logan and Rory are at Emily
Speaker 4: and Richards. My note on the scene, I wrote too
Speaker 4: much blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't mind it.
Speaker 3: The one line I really or the one part I
Speaker 3: really liked, and this is when Rory's kind of going
Speaker 3: off about like what Richard's going to teach in class
Speaker 3: next week. And I like that Logan didn't say like,
Speaker 3: well you don't know, yeah, yeah, let her just go
Speaker 3: and then she realized it and then he followed her lead.
Speaker 3: I just like that he let her vent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agreed that. I thought that was good.
Speaker 4: Then we use the word chopper at least three more times.
Speaker 2: Too many, too too many.
Speaker 4: And then he so we find out this is an
Speaker 4: interesting point to make note of. We find out that
Speaker 4: Logan is looking at buying another company that is important
Speaker 4: so this yeah, and he needs an investor. He's going
Speaker 4: to buy it for five million. He's going to use
Speaker 4: three million from his trust fund. We find out that
Speaker 4: he approached his dad about it, but Mitcham said no,
Speaker 4: and so then they do their little business speak lingle.
Speaker 4: That was kind of cute when he was like, are
Speaker 4: you talking business talk? That was I thought that was cute.
Speaker 4: But just overall, like the little the honologus and where
Speaker 4: she's narrating every single item of clothing and every all
Speaker 4: the details of all the records she's going to bring,
Speaker 4: it just was too much for me and just wied
Speaker 4: too much stuff to take.
Speaker 2: I feel like too much stuff to take. I agree,
Speaker 2: but also like it is what a college kid would do, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta go get my grandma's outfit, but I want
Speaker 2: to look in her underwear drawer, you know. Like that
Speaker 2: was all kind of funny, and I think she loves
Speaker 2: her grandpa. She loves him. She's going to bring all
Speaker 2: his books and all those records that tracks with Rory,
Speaker 2: like she remember when she would do things young, you know, earlier,
Speaker 2: she would bring like forty books like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the character all of them. I just thought
Speaker 4: it was like that scene could have been cut in
Speaker 4: half time wise, and it would have gotten the point across.
Speaker 4: Just fine.
Speaker 2: I just I wasn't irritated, but respect Scott. How are
Speaker 2: you feeling about the dogs? Everything happening?
Speaker 1: It's all just so wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like this episode? Sorry to interject, but
Speaker 2: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I actually did enjoy it. I'm I'm I've learned how
Speaker 1: to ignore flaws. Yeah, and just just bring it. Just
Speaker 1: let me enjoy it, let me laugh. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of laughs. I enjoyed the ride. You know, I
Speaker 1: hit my head, so I'm you know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't judge it anymore. I'm not so critical anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is more fun to watch it when you're
Speaker 2: not trying to nitpick it. I'm just saying too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had a little some issues at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season, and it's almost like it's just it's just kind.
Speaker 1: Of too easy. It's too easy to NITPICKTI, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think we we we got very nitpicky.
Speaker 2: THEA in seven has found its way, and there is
Speaker 2: the chance that those writers needed a minute for the
Speaker 2: new team, right, and it's now found its way.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you were ever you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine another writing staff in the history of
Speaker 1: television under more pressure to come in after six seasons
Speaker 1: of this show, which is turning out to be some
Speaker 1: kind of you know, iconic historical television series woven into
Speaker 1: the fabric of the American consciousness and culture. And hey,
Speaker 1: I just pick up where Amy and Dan left off.
Speaker 2: You know, probly Amy probably wrote three times the words
Speaker 2: in a normal script, and these guys are probably writing
Speaker 2: double So it's like they're not doing twenty two episodes,
Speaker 2: they're doing forty four episode, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like it's a lot. So yeah, I'll give them some grace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, Well you're just a bigger person than I am.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I have had my moments a lot.
Speaker 4: I feel like I need you to spend myself. I'd
Speaker 4: like I said at the beginning, I don't dislike it. It
Speaker 4: just wasn't great for me, Like.
Speaker 2: It just was, Eh, I'm here to support you because
Speaker 2: there have been episodes where I felt that way and
Speaker 2: I got daggered not by you guys, but by the fans.
Speaker 2: And so it's like I'm also going to say in
Speaker 2: this one for me, I love this episode. So I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's people that feel both ways.
Speaker 1: So but I think, but I think it was regarding
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Suzanne, It's like I've lowered my expectations,
Speaker 1: so I'm not I don't let it bother me.
Speaker 4: Anymore, right, right, right, Because it's not.
Speaker 1: Fair to the show. It's not fair to the current writers,
Speaker 1: you know, season seven, it's not fair to ask them
Speaker 1: to step into those shoes and do exactly what Amy
Speaker 1: and Dan did.
Speaker 3: It's not fair, I thought. I mean, I was very
Speaker 3: close to give I was just.
Speaker 1: Trying to give them the props because I think they're
Speaker 1: doing a really good job at this point.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, mindful. Oh sorry, go ahead, Susanne.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was just going to say, as I was
Speaker 4: watching this last night, because I I typically will watch
Speaker 4: my husband will watch it with me, and then we'll
Speaker 4: like comment on it. And he kind of felt the
Speaker 4: same way I did. He's like, I'm glad that you
Speaker 4: said that, because I was you didn't want to say
Speaker 4: it to me, but when I said it, then he's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I thought the same thing. And I even looked to
Speaker 4: see who the writer was and if they had written
Speaker 4: other episodes, and it was credited to Rebecca rand Kirshner,
Speaker 4: and apparently she wrote ten episodes, some of which I
Speaker 4: completely loved. So it's not like I don't like her writing,
Speaker 4: because I do. She wrote this the Sanda's Secret Stuff
Speaker 4: episode that we just watched that I totally loved. So
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess there's it's just something about
Speaker 4: this episode that is.
Speaker 2: Very mindful of my own mind state? Is that the
Speaker 2: word mindset? When I watched this episode, because I was
Speaker 2: a little nervous about watching this episode just because of
Speaker 2: my own like I don't want to bring in my
Speaker 2: own junk into it, and I think I had done
Speaker 2: that a couple of weeks ago. So I went to
Speaker 2: watch it on I think Sunday night, and then I
Speaker 2: said I'm going to wait, and I watched it when
Speaker 2: I was like really ready for it because it's a
Speaker 2: tough episode a little bit. And I think that also
Speaker 2: benefited me because I really I was super just in
Speaker 2: with the episode, like I wanted to feel this whole thing.
Speaker 1: Did you I mean, did you watch this episode before
Speaker 1: Chance Jackson or after post.
Speaker 2: George Janet Jackson, before Janet Jackson Fall, which I can
Speaker 2: tell everybody about if they care.
Speaker 3: Wait, Susanne, how many times has your husband seen Gilmore? Girls?
Speaker 3: Like this is first or second?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: He So when I watched it the very very first time,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, you need to
Speaker 4: watch this show. So I made him watch the whole
Speaker 4: thing from start to finish years ago, and but then
Speaker 4: it's like a lot of times, especially when it was
Speaker 4: on up TV, it was just always on in the background,
Speaker 4: and so he's like seen the whole He may not
Speaker 4: have watched it straight through again, but he's seen all
Speaker 4: the episodes of various He can quote some of the
Speaker 4: lines better than I can.
Speaker 1: Garry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So we're in the cafeteria and this is
Speaker 4: where Laurel gets upset at Emily for calling them getting
Speaker 4: the will.
Speaker 2: Also was concerned about that old man.
Speaker 3: Oh and they.
Speaker 2: Also all concerns about him and really noticed him multiple
Speaker 2: times and was like, I wonder about he has what's
Speaker 2: going on? And then when she said it, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I am a person.
Speaker 4: She had a good point. So as somebody who has
Speaker 4: worked in hospitals for twenty eight years now, she's right, Like,
Speaker 4: patients are not supposed to be eating in the cafeteria
Speaker 4: the diet prescribed by the doctor. They eat what they
Speaker 4: bring to the patient's room. Like generally patients are not
Speaker 4: taking their ivy pull down to the caffe.
Speaker 2: Do you have a baby, because can't you bring in
Speaker 2: any restaurant food? Like I know people that when they
Speaker 2: have a baby they get like mastros delivered or whatever.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you you can, depending once you deliver, right,
Speaker 4: depending on the medical situation, but you have to have permission,
Speaker 4: you know, from from the doctor, and they'll ride an
Speaker 4: order that says, you know that the patient can have
Speaker 4: their own.
Speaker 1: I thought I was their food.
Speaker 2: I didn't do that, just uberneats on an ivy. I
Speaker 2: thought maybe he just had a hip replacement or something.
Speaker 2: I had a whole story in my mind.
Speaker 3: I totally noticed the red drink. Do you remember in
Speaker 3: like like in schools and all those like nineties show
Speaker 3: there's always that red juice. He had it in front
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: But I just kind of like high Sea or something
Speaker 2: like a little plastic bottle, just.
Speaker 5: Like those were fire Those are good.
Speaker 4: Okay. So Emily's on the phone with the lawyer getting
Speaker 4: the will and this bothers Laurel.
Speaker 3: I I kind of agree with Emily. I understand where
Speaker 3: Laurele's headed is. But I think Emily's being realistic because
Speaker 3: current like currently, my my grandma's getting older and my
Speaker 3: dad is helping figure out her will between like him
Speaker 3: and his brothers, and it's like he's like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to think about it, like if and well, when
Speaker 3: the time comes, and so if I would say, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, when the time comes. And so I
Speaker 3: didn't blame her because she's probably thinking we didn't do
Speaker 3: this sooner.
Speaker 2: At it because the last time and this is his
Speaker 2: wishes and her job. Again, Yeah, I also understand because
Speaker 2: there is the business of.
Speaker 5: It too, and the hospital's going to have to handle
Speaker 5: the business. Somebody has to handle.
Speaker 3: I want to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the hospital is going to ask what the DNR
Speaker 4: status is because they don't want to call a code
Speaker 4: blue on somebody that doesn't want to be resuscitated, so
Speaker 4: they they will ask for that. But the actual will,
Speaker 4: like the dn R is part of the living will, right,
Speaker 4: the actual will. They held me back in the hospital
Speaker 4: because it was helping his stuff in the hospital.
Speaker 2: It was helping her busy, it was keeping her focused. Also,
Speaker 2: ordering the fish is mentally her saying he's going to
Speaker 2: be fine, and when he gets home, I'm going to
Speaker 2: have fish and I'm not going to lose my reservation
Speaker 2: with this. Made he d because he's going to be
Speaker 2: fine and we're going to go back there. So I
Speaker 2: really we're going.
Speaker 5: To get better by eating fish exactly.
Speaker 2: So I understood what she was doing. And also it's
Speaker 2: very Emily. That's how she copes. And she did have
Speaker 2: her meltdown. We knew it would come, but she was
Speaker 2: doing what she needed to do.
Speaker 3: And this is how many years, well, let's say like
Speaker 3: what roughly like eight years since since the other heart attack.
Speaker 2: Because there's only season seven, so the first season one.
Speaker 3: Because at that point she had nothing prepared. Now he's
Speaker 3: kind of yeah, she kind of knows what to do
Speaker 3: or what to expect.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And she says like they had, she just
Speaker 4: is executing the you know this the plan that they
Speaker 4: had created after the last time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Gorlai does not react well to that. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: it just seems like a little morbid, like Emily's already
Speaker 4: assuming he's going to pass away, which she's not, but
Speaker 4: just the two of them are not understanding where the
Speaker 4: other one is coming from.
Speaker 2: So not to be a total like because please don't
Speaker 2: write Alis makes it about her, but like my dad,
Speaker 2: his job is to be the lawyer that she's calling,
Speaker 2: and like, so there is an element of it where
Speaker 2: you a B C D E. You get those things
Speaker 2: in order and then then you don't worry about that,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? So she's I get
Speaker 2: what she's doing, and I'm not mad. I get I
Speaker 2: also understand my lore livees frustrated by it. That I
Speaker 2: have full respect for how everybody is sort of grieving
Speaker 2: here and dealing every single person.
Speaker 4: So right, that's why I'm kind of on the fence
Speaker 4: about it, because it's the ultimate just doing the best.
Speaker 2: They can, you do, you boo, because when you're dealing
Speaker 2: with that stuff, you cannot be told how to deal
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, So that's just where I'm at on it,
Speaker 2: and everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody react differently every Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It's kind of what Scott said earlier, like everybody try
Speaker 2: to support everybody in the way they're dealing with it too,
Speaker 2: So which I do. I love the scene that's coming,
Speaker 2: so I'll shut my trap.
Speaker 4: Then we go back to Emily and Richard's and we
Speaker 4: have another scene that was way too long. I don't
Speaker 4: know why we needed this scene twice. This is where
Speaker 4: we talk about the records and the clothes for a
Speaker 4: really long time, and then the fish and the fish
Speaker 4: all has to go in the right refrigerator. And this
Speaker 4: is where Rory thanks Logan for being there with her.
Speaker 4: That was a nice That was a nice moment. But
Speaker 4: I'd like they couldn't put that with the other scene.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Then we go then, okay, so this
Speaker 4: is the scene in the gift shop. This was I
Speaker 4: this was a good scene.
Speaker 2: This was.
Speaker 4: Kelly Bishop was brilliant in this scene, and Loura is
Speaker 4: still upset about the way Emily's acting, and Emily says, this,
Speaker 4: this is the plan, like this is I have to
Speaker 4: do this.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on this scene, I this is where I kind
Speaker 3: of I felt for Laura, but I did side with
Speaker 3: Emily when she's like, I've you've been married for what
Speaker 3: she say, like forty days and I've been married for
Speaker 3: over forty years and yeah, it's so true, and it
Speaker 3: kind of it kind of made Laura, I think, realize
Speaker 3: like she doesn't know how marriage works, like not like
Speaker 3: we ever believe she did. But I think Laurai is like,
Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing a lot of the times,
Speaker 3: and in this moment, she's probably like, my mom's right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: So sorry that I just Danielle, I'm so sorry, but
Speaker 2: I just do think it's important. So you can take
Speaker 2: your headphones off, but I'm not going to run anything.
Speaker 2: It's just making me think about the movies. It's making
Speaker 2: me think about the movies so much. I can't help it.
Speaker 2: And I do think we're analyzing the show from a
Speaker 2: bird's eye view. It should be mentioned, but I also
Speaker 2: I see both their perspectives, but I get it. Emily
Speaker 2: is just I just thought she was so brilliant Kelly
Speaker 2: playing Emily, and also I just understood and I think
Speaker 2: finally she conveyed it to Laura, and that's why we
Speaker 2: get the milk dead scene because she finally expressed what
Speaker 2: she's feeling.
Speaker 1: I think what is so good in the writing in
Speaker 1: this episode is that there's a generation gap between mother
Speaker 1: and daughter that can't be You're right, and that experience
Speaker 1: and age. With experience and age comes wisdom, and Laurel
Speaker 1: I lacked that experience and wisdom in this situation, and
Speaker 1: she didn't know how to handle it. She's freaking out
Speaker 1: and she was overacting because she didn't get it because
Speaker 1: she hadn't been there, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it's amazing. As I get older, I find myself in
Speaker 1: more and more of these situations with younger people, you know,
Speaker 1: and me having to explain to them exactly what Emily said.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been around the block and you haven't,
Speaker 1: and you don't know what's coming and you don't know
Speaker 1: how to do.
Speaker 2: York by saying that, like with age is wisdom and
Speaker 2: like we would be well served to listen to people
Speaker 2: that know do you know what I mean? And like
Speaker 2: and also putting ourselves because Laura I was behaving how
Speaker 2: Lorlai felt instead of taking a deep breath and saying,
Speaker 2: what is my mom actually experiencing here? And I felt,
Speaker 2: for some reason in this episode my heart was with
Speaker 2: Emily because I was like, oh my god, she is
Speaker 2: in excruciating pain, worry, stress.
Speaker 4: Over this, and we've seen that to a lesser extent.
Speaker 4: It kind of reminded me of that episode where I
Speaker 4: don't even remember what season it was three or four
Speaker 4: maybe four, with where they were planning that event with
Speaker 4: Jason's styles and he canceled it, and so Emily was
Speaker 4: feeling obsolete and useless, and Laurel I really defended her,
Speaker 4: like she went to Jason and was like, Dude, my
Speaker 4: mother lives for this stuff and you just pulled the
Speaker 4: rug out from under her.
Speaker 1: So I.
Speaker 4: Think, I think Laura I can get it.
Speaker 2: She gets it in she.
Speaker 4: Was kind of bogged down by her own thoughts.
Speaker 2: She gets it in the gift shop. You know what
Speaker 2: it makes me think of and for me and I
Speaker 2: know I said it at the time. One of the
Speaker 2: most important scenes I ever saw in Gilmour Girls is
Speaker 2: when Richard and Emily are separated and Emily goes on
Speaker 2: the date and comes home and shuts the door and cries.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I'm realizing as the series goes on,
Speaker 2: how much Emily is so important even with her shortcomings,
Speaker 2: And it's like they are the couple, even with their
Speaker 2: ups and down.
Speaker 5: So I hate to say it, but like, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: Emily is the Gilmore girl, Like she is that to me,
Speaker 5: Like obviously, I know a lot of people would say
Speaker 5: argue that that's Rory or lauraa I, but to me,
Speaker 5: she is the show.
Speaker 1: You know. Another another aspect of this in that dynamic
Speaker 1: where Laurel is not understanding where where her mother's coming from,
Speaker 1: could be, you know, either subconsciously or not, Laurel I
Speaker 1: re reacting to this reality she's living where Christopher's not
Speaker 1: responding to her text, he's not coming by. You know,
Speaker 1: she's just kind of out of her depth in this situation.
Speaker 1: She's going to lose her maybe going to lose her dad,
Speaker 1: so of course she's going to overreact. So it's funny
Speaker 1: to interject that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So on the milk duds.
Speaker 1: In other words, I don't I don't think she was.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think she was so angry
Speaker 1: at her mother. I think she was angry at her situation.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Yeah, I agree with you. She
Speaker 2: was just she was totally like it couldn't make sense
Speaker 2: of it because she was she was in her state
Speaker 2: instead of putting herself into her mom's situation.
Speaker 1: Right, right, And how would she react if, maybe if
Speaker 1: Christopher were about to have surgery or Luke was about
Speaker 1: to have surgery? You know, yeah, who did she want
Speaker 1: to be in a situation with who was having surgery?
Speaker 4: That's an interesting point, surgery quiz. When you mentioned Christopher
Speaker 4: or Luke having surgery, it made me think it might
Speaker 4: also be a little bit of a difference because it's
Speaker 4: different when it's your parent versus your husband. You know, like,
Speaker 4: as an adult child, you know that your parents are
Speaker 4: going to die at some point, but you don't necessarily
Speaker 4: expect your spouse to pas, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 4: like Emily's experience is going to be different than loralized
Speaker 4: and vice versa, just because they both have a different
Speaker 4: relationship with Richard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like Emily, I mean, Emily can think like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe she'll pass before Richard. But as as a child,
Speaker 3: you know that you'll see both your parents pass in
Speaker 3: your lifetime, right.
Speaker 2: Right, like you you know that you're.
Speaker 3: You know it's coming.
Speaker 2: It's so awful. It's just awful that.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't know. My cousin called me he'd
Speaker 1: lost his mother, my aunt, and when my mother was
Speaker 1: near the end, he called me and said, Scott, it's
Speaker 1: going to hit you like a train. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: the most impactful thing you will ever go through. And
Speaker 1: he wasn't wrong.
Speaker 4: I did just to put a put the button on
Speaker 4: that scene. I did like the shoplifting of the Kleenex.
Speaker 4: That was cute and we'll worry about this later.
Speaker 1: Did you just take that?
Speaker 4: Didn't even think twice. She just takes it off the
Speaker 4: shelf and starts handing out Queenex, almost like she choplifted before. Anyway,
Speaker 4: So this is the the duds scene. Emily is like
Speaker 4: really into the milk duds, and she she said something
Speaker 4: like why why are they called duds? It's counterintuitive for
Speaker 4: a candy or I can't remember the exact line, but
Speaker 4: I thought that was funny, so I had I googled
Speaker 4: it because I'm like, why why do they call it
Speaker 4: milk duds? And apparently the inventor.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're trying to describe the episodes in season seven.
Speaker 4: I guess the inventor couldn't get them completely round and
Speaker 4: so he called.
Speaker 3: Them they were duds. Oh yeah, because they're all different shapes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, good one. But anyway, so they're passing them
Speaker 4: back and forth, and I'm like, I wonder how many
Speaker 4: takes that took, because they're passing these like fifteen milk
Speaker 4: does a handful.
Speaker 2: When the doctor comes to I totally was like and
Speaker 2: then she's like hands and it's hands.
Speaker 1: They're probably they wanted her to scrub up before it's
Speaker 1: going to see the Richard.
Speaker 2: I know, they're all kind of cavalier being around a
Speaker 2: dude who just had a triple bypass or whatever.
Speaker 1: He have chocolate hands.
Speaker 4: Right, So the doctor comes in and says, you know,
Speaker 4: just one visitor, and so Emily goes to see him
Speaker 4: in the hospital room. Now, I don't know, I've been
Speaker 4: I worked in the ICU for a good twenty years.
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of open heart patients come out.
Speaker 4: They do not come out just with their little nasal canyon.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. They have like eight different IVY pumps. Half
Speaker 4: the time they're intubated. They're not they're not wearing their
Speaker 4: hospital gown because they have to get to the dressings.
Speaker 4: Like that was silly, but.
Speaker 5: They should have, you know, didn't think about it.
Speaker 4: Someone that's ever been inside and I see you before,
Speaker 4: but I'll let them have that one. And they had
Speaker 4: like these weird supplies in there, like it's they had
Speaker 4: a trait cart and that he didn't even have a
Speaker 4: trait like why would that be in there? Whatever, But
Speaker 4: just this, I know everything.
Speaker 2: I got a stop.
Speaker 4: I can't watch the medical shows because I get mad.
Speaker 2: But he was in good spirits.
Speaker 4: He you know things, the surgery went fine, and he
Speaker 4: was Emily's like bombarding him with all the all of
Speaker 4: her checklist items and.
Speaker 2: He's like, that's what she would totally want to do.
Speaker 2: I've got the fish. Yeah, it was just a nice
Speaker 2: She's like, we're gonna have so much fish like that
Speaker 2: was her way of saying, like I'm so happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, like she's just you could see the relief. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that the surgery went well because she's just like
Speaker 4: pouring everything out, like I got all this fish and
Speaker 4: so that was a nice scene.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 4: And then uh oh they don't come okay. Then we
Speaker 4: go back outside the hospital where Lurlai is leaving. I
Speaker 4: think this was message number three. I was trying to
Speaker 4: count and I think that was the third message that
Speaker 4: she was leaving for Christopher. And this is when she
Speaker 4: basically tells him like this is not okay, and she
Speaker 4: hangs up, so she's like done trying to give him
Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: That was a scene.
Speaker 4: That was a good scene.
Speaker 1: Excellent scene. Yeah, just her is just just Laurla on
Speaker 1: the phone right, terrific, terrific stuff.
Speaker 4: Very good. And then back in the hospital room, they've
Speaker 4: got the record player. Rory's playing some of his music and.
Speaker 3: Which I was like, who's bringing a record player and
Speaker 3: plugging it into the.
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 4: That was another thing that was a little unrealistic. The
Speaker 4: nurses would have been like, take all that junk back
Speaker 4: to the car and that does not need to be
Speaker 4: in here.
Speaker 3: And turn it down.
Speaker 1: Actually, guys, we did that for my mom.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We brought in a turntable and Sinatra records.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they do. Like if it's an end of
Speaker 4: life situation.
Speaker 1: Was it was hospous care, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: They will bend the rules in a situation like that.
Speaker 4: But somebody who is you know, two hours out of
Speaker 4: open heart surgery, there's not.
Speaker 1: Going to be a station in there, Dak Can I
Speaker 1: make it on? How about it? How about a record?
Speaker 1: We'll yeah there, Vaughan for you.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was sweet though, like yeah, yeah, she.
Speaker 4: Was trying to bring the things she knew would bring
Speaker 4: him comfort in happiness.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this episode messed me up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. No, I get it. It's heavy stuff,
Speaker 2: all of it.
Speaker 4: And then this is This is where Laurela makes the
Speaker 4: comment about Logan that she's glad to see that Rory
Speaker 4: and Logan are getting along and he says he's almost okay.
Speaker 4: I thought that was good. And then one more hospital
Speaker 4: scene was this is when Luke came with the food.
Speaker 4: They had a nice little conversation, Like Laurela, I wasn't
Speaker 4: trying to brush him off this time like she did
Speaker 4: the first time.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you guys something, did you what do
Speaker 1: you think Luke was really trying to get out of
Speaker 1: there unnoticed or was he trying to get caught.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was intentionally trying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think he just wanted to deliver the guy and
Speaker 1: just get out of it. He wasn't trying to another meeting,
Speaker 1: another connection with Inger to long. Really, he's just dropping off.
Speaker 2: The food.
Speaker 3: Was in the bags, Yes, blaming it.
Speaker 5: He wanted to see her and make.
Speaker 2: Sure she's obviously, But but I'm not mad. I don't
Speaker 2: think he was intentionally trying to be like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: linger around so Christopher sees me and I can not Christopher.
Speaker 5: But lorla yeah, maybe see her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, needed that scene in his truck where he's clutching
Speaker 1: onto the bags before he goes in the hospital. He's
Speaker 1: debviously scheming.
Speaker 3: No, I feel like it's just a very Luke characteristic too,
Speaker 3: Like I just think, you know, he were coming off
Speaker 3: the episode where Lorlai wrote the letter for Luke, and
Speaker 3: I think he just still yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Right right, and he he knows like he kind of
Speaker 4: feels like he needs to do something for her because
Speaker 4: she did that thing for He just saw that opportunity.
Speaker 1: To the extra mile go there exactly.
Speaker 4: So then Christopher shows up and immediately is on the offensive,
Speaker 4: telling Luke that he needs to leave. And I loved
Speaker 4: that little visual exchange between Luke and Christopher where Luke
Speaker 4: just gives him a look and then Christopher like immediately
Speaker 4: looks down like he was totally in this subordinate position there.
Speaker 4: I thought that was that was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: Thank you by the way. I worked on that for
Speaker 1: hours coming up with that brief pause.
Speaker 2: It was very good.
Speaker 4: And then Chris is like defensive with Laurel I and.
Speaker 3: I just thought it wasn't the time, Like you, you
Speaker 3: weren't there all day and before anything happened, you were
Speaker 3: going to talk about Luke being there, Like we could
Speaker 3: have had that conversation in a day. Yeah, not thirty
Speaker 3: seconds after you walk into the hospital, after everyone's been
Speaker 3: or Laura, I's been calling you five time.
Speaker 4: Times right right, like he immediately makes it about himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like like Scott said, are we surprised, No,
Speaker 3: you just.
Speaker 1: You know he's delivering the goods. Christopher always, he never
Speaker 1: lets you down in that department. Here's a big bag
Speaker 1: of d bag, here you go, my name on it.
Speaker 4: I also like the very very end where Emily is
Speaker 4: like picking up that you know, probably all is not
Speaker 4: well there and she's trying to comfort Lorelei in her
Speaker 4: own way.
Speaker 2: I really love that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was That was a great moment. And then
Speaker 4: that was that was the episode.
Speaker 1: All right, So what are we giving it?
Speaker 2: Jokes from the Fishman and.
Speaker 1: I really like ten jokes from the Fishman and just
Speaker 1: jumped right in.
Speaker 7: I also response like, I was like, what co d like?
Speaker 7: As he said it, I was like, oh wait, what
Speaker 7: are you giving it?
Speaker 3: I give this nine point seven choppers.
Speaker 8: Choppers Danielle well I had choppers, but I will improvise
Speaker 8: on the spot and say nine point two five cups
Speaker 8: of tea.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say seven milk duds, lot amount of DUTs,
Speaker 4: but melted milk DUTs, dirty hand for being handed back and.
Speaker 1: Forth, four caps in them.
Speaker 2: Duds are covered in germs. They went from hand to hand,
Speaker 2: back to hand, hospital no less, just so many germs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. Gosh, the critical side is it
Speaker 1: war with the forgiving signs?
Speaker 4: Uh, what's the difference?
Speaker 1: Seven five? Let's give it a seven point seven seven
Speaker 1: stolen Kleenex tissues and that's gonna rap. Oh are we
Speaker 1: gonna well, No, we're not anyway, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: wrap on season seven, episode thirteen. I'd rather be in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies, Daniel Roma, Terra, suit Amy, Sugarman. Choose
Speaker 1: in French. We will see you next time. What's the
Speaker 1: name of the next episode? Do we care? I can't carry?
Speaker 5: Does Paul Inca die?
Speaker 4: We can't tell you.
Speaker 1: We can't tell you, and I don't know either. I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. If I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It'll be season seven, episod fourteenth. Farewell, my pet best
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