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Speaker 1: Welcome to Solve the Interactive Mystery podcast Where you don't

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Speaker 1: just hear about crimes, you solve them. Each episode will

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Speaker 1: present you with a different case inspired by a true crime.

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Speaker 1: You'll interrogate suspects, piece together evidence, and investigate the crime scene.

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Speaker 1: You're the detective. This is your case? Can you solve it?

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Speaker 1: Solve presents the real killer. I used to listen to

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Speaker 1: And so the great womanizer Rob Holt finally settled down

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Speaker 1: If you please? How could he do this to me?

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