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Speaker 1: Now that's something that we've lost as well.

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Speaker 3: The whole world has lost it.

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Speaker 1: The coming home from the office or whatever and having

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Speaker 2: Bit used to be super exciting you you didn't know

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Speaker 1: It was invariably like a bill collector or something, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, this is sad. You know, Mail, actual physical

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Speaker 1: mail has just turned into a point of anxiety for me.

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Speaker 1: With the exception of now the babies born. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot of gifts from so many people's very calm.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: But the mail that goes into your mailbox, it's never good.

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Speaker 1: It's never anything that I want, really, It's always just garbage.

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Speaker 1: You know, it belongs all who Bell I remember.

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Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember Buck. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: there was something that would come in the mail that

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Speaker 2: For me, Sports Illustrated. I was like, who was going

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Speaker 2: to be on the coach issue?

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Speaker 1: Which issue?

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Speaker 3: Clay?

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Speaker 2: The swimsuit issue, of course was a was a was

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Speaker 1: So did me just a particular one not allowed to

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Speaker 1: illustrated Yep, the Dan They had to do a special announcement,

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Speaker 1: edition which talk a little totalitarian. I was a little

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Speaker 2: I nineteen eighties, early nineteen nineties, pre internet, the Sports

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Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. Who was on the cover used

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Speaker 2: don't even know how many times they publish Sports Illustrated now,

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Speaker 2: business right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Sunday hang with Clay and Bucks.

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Speaker 2: We now have Krockett Coffee up in the gift shop

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Speaker 2: at the Alamo, So as a history nerd, that is

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Speaker 2: very very cool. Proceeds going to help with the Alamo.

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Speaker 2: Obviously not a cheap historical location to be running. But

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Speaker 2: if you go into the Alamo now and you go

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Speaker 2: through the gift shop there, you will find Crockett coffee available,

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Speaker 2: which is very very cool. You can sign up crock

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Speaker 2: at coffee dot com, get an autograph copy of my

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Speaker 2: most recent book when you subscribe, and we would love

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Speaker 2: to see the photos.

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Speaker 3: If you are.

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Speaker 2: Going into the Alamo, and we know we have a

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Speaker 2: see that you have found Crockett coffee in the gift shop.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the cool things they reached out

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Speaker 2: the birthplace of Davy Crockett. We also wanted to get

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Speaker 2: So you can help us continue to grow a great

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Speaker 2: American coffee company that loves American history.

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Speaker 1: Sundays with Clay and Buck Pam in Anchorage, Alaska. Listen

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, the show today is so important and substantive

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Speaker 4: swimming from Alcatraz by chance that was so fun the

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Speaker 1: Thanks, well, Pam, there's always time for a light moment.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say this, Clay and I are working this

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying, hey, I'm going to hit peer thirty two.

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Speaker 2: I am saying I will not drown, and at some

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Speaker 1: People always say this why you couldn't go swimming afterwards?

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Speaker 1: I think. I think Riley Gaines should be your guide

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Speaker 1: We're joined now by actor Dean Kine. You remember him

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Speaker 1: from Back of the Day. A superman but still doing

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Speaker 1: Little Angels, Yes, what do they need to know?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so Little Angels go to Little angelsmovie dot com

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Speaker 5: and then press theaters and demand it be in your area.

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Speaker 3: But it deals.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you have a six month old or something

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Speaker 1: Six weeks six weeks. He's just a little chunk man.

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Speaker 1: He's just starting to smile.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's congratulations. Best thing in the entire world. I'm

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Speaker 1: You know what, Can I just say this, Dean, we

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Speaker 1: think he does, except he's a redheit, so he's gonna

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be Ginger. The second Yeah, wow, well done.

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Speaker 5: My son had blonde hair and I'm and it's gotten darker.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you never know what you're gonna get in

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Speaker 5: as far as family entertainment goes, Little Angels is all

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Speaker 5: about that. But it's also about you know, I learned

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Speaker 1: Me, Kevin Sorbo Mel. We gotta have a dinner, be

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Speaker 5: Little Angelsmovie dot Com? And then you hit theaters and

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Speaker 1: Dean Kane, the Superman for people who love America. Thank

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