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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, just guys, just you know, I

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Speaker 1: a little better execution, have the right call called, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just um play a game. But the thing is,

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Speaker 1: mean that the difference this week is, you know, like

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of the problem scrambling or he could run

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Speaker 1: and going verticals. But you know, you try to make

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Speaker 1: them play left handed. Sometimes they make the plays and

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Speaker 1: you know there's there's a there's a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: stuff that goes into play. But you know that's part

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Speaker 1: of being a coach. Your second you know, you start

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Speaker 1: thinking about all the different scenarios. What could you have

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Speaker 1: called better there? You know, the bottom line is we

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Speaker 1: got execute and I'm talking about we me as a coach,

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Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I'm executing the right paul Um

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Speaker 1: and we will be challenging this week. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about good red area offense that has good weapons.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting this week. Hopefully we do a

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Speaker 1: better job real quick on that on that touchdown where

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Speaker 1: Hollands is juggling, Would you rather see Xavier finished that

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Speaker 1: play there? There's a whole bunch of stuff that goes

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Speaker 1: into play with that, you know, Um, it was a

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Speaker 1: tough catch, good throw. Um. You know, honestly, probably put

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Speaker 1: be in this other call. That's just that's why I

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Speaker 1: end up doing so. But you know, our guys they

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Speaker 1: played hard. They they played hard. You know, they try

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Speaker 1: to execute what we're asking them to do, and obviously

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Speaker 1: the W. So thank god, we got another opportunity this

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Speaker 1: week and we've got a good weather while we're out here,

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