Speaker 1: Bueller.
Speaker 2: Let's play ball ocome in everybody to fantasy pros.
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Speaker 1: Piezapia with you today, and of course with me with
Speaker 1: you is the Welsh and we're breaking all the baseball
Speaker 1: down from the weekend. A lot to talk about, certainly Welsh.
Speaker 1: It's nice to see you, my friend. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have you here on a Monday, and it's nice to
Speaker 1: also have a wonderful weekend from Aaron Judge. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you it feels good. The fish were in the
Speaker 1: barrel and I shot him up real good. Well, I
Speaker 1: shot him up real good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't do the Buckston weekend like I've
Speaker 3: done all the weekends. I was like, now I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna do the bucks And weekend. And guess what. It
Speaker 3: wouldn't have put me on the board, but it would
Speaker 3: have put me one more homer up. I did get
Speaker 3: one from Flad. When I saw the Judge dual homer,
Speaker 3: I was like, ugh, Monday's gonna suck. Monday is gonna
Speaker 3: be brutal, and you get the homer you got the
Speaker 3: Homers and maybe you'll be on the board. We don't know.
Speaker 3: As Mayors said here in the chat, that you guys
Speaker 3: can be hanging out with Will Joey p once again
Speaker 3: manipulate the home run leader board to include his name
Speaker 3: that and more on today's leading off that would be
Speaker 3: the lead. By the way, what is Mayor talking about?
Speaker 3: Didn't Mayor manipulate the board for an entire week to
Speaker 3: bring him on this week?
Speaker 1: It's called politics. This is what happens. You say the
Speaker 1: thing that you know you do, and you accuse your
Speaker 1: opponent of doing it. Look, I'm tied now. And I
Speaker 1: told you that when I came back here on Monday
Speaker 1: that I would be on the leaderboard and Mayor would not.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't a prediction, that was a spoiler. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's right. I told you so called my shot and
Speaker 1: lucky than one. But enough about that. You know I
Speaker 1: am feeling lucky, actually feeling pretty good about it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So may and I are going to square off in
Speaker 1: a steel cage sometime later this month. So I hope
Speaker 1: the pay per fore you buy numbers are good or.
Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm just looking down at you guys.
Speaker 3: Right now, just waiting to attacked. I need to make
Speaker 3: my attack here.
Speaker 1: Very nice, all right, let's get after it. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the weekend of baseball on Monday. As of the
Speaker 1: thirteenth of June, the Yankees and Mets are the first
Speaker 1: two teams to forty wins. It's the first time this
Speaker 1: ever happened where the New York Mets since they were
Speaker 1: been around, have actually been in first place with forty
Speaker 1: wins along with the Yankees at this point in the season,
Speaker 1: the first to forty. So that's that's great. Look, you know,
Speaker 1: New York East Coast is certainly the Northeast especially is
Speaker 1: a big baseball I'm not saying, yeah, it's a bias,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But I always think baseball
Speaker 1: is better off when the teams in New York are good,
Speaker 1: because then it allows the other market teams to hate them,
Speaker 1: and that's good. You need the villain. It's important. So
Speaker 1: I think this is a good thing for baseball when
Speaker 1: the Yankees. It's always a good thing for baseball when
Speaker 1: the Yankees are good. When Yankees are I feel like
Speaker 1: it's kind of you need the Yankees to be good.
Speaker 1: You want them on that wall. You need on that wall.
Speaker 1: So this is fun. That's a good thing. Wander Franco.
Speaker 1: Good news for him. He's set to do with jilty
Speaker 1: drills this weekend. I can't wait this week today. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch these. I hope they're on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I know somebody's gonna have you know, him, like doing
Speaker 1: high skips or whatever.
Speaker 3: These. I wonder if he's in the best shape of
Speaker 3: his life now, that'd be great. That's like the same
Speaker 3: thing I do. Hope agree, I hope they put on.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, the the agility drills are gonna
Speaker 1: be hilarious. I can't wait to see them. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be like an obstacle course running around Starling Marte two
Speaker 1: hits and there's return to the lineup yesterday along with
Speaker 1: Tywan Walker for the Mets, striking out ten and a
Speaker 1: win over the Angels. Speaking of ten, Bulio Urius struck
Speaker 1: out ten but a tough luck loss on Sunday. Also
Speaker 1: the big news and that Dodger rotation is Walker Bueller
Speaker 1: going to be out for many, many weeks with that
Speaker 1: flexer tendon, which typically Welsh is a precursor to Tommy
Speaker 1: John been talking about it all year, talked about it
Speaker 1: in February and March with you. I said, they're not invincible.
Speaker 1: Let's stop anointing the Dodgers. There's certainly a pass way
Speaker 1: you could paint where it was going to be a
Speaker 1: tenuous road for them to get to the world. Here
Speaker 1: it is, and here it is. Here it is. So
Speaker 1: if you have Walker Buhler right now, you can't be
Speaker 1: you can't feel good about this because typically this does
Speaker 1: not end well. So well, let's let's go through it.
Speaker 1: What do the Dodgers do from here? What do fantasy
Speaker 1: owners do from here?
Speaker 3: Well, the Dodgers, they've got some reinforcements in the minor league.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, like we talked about it, the thing
Speaker 3: that has saved this team is Tony Gonslin and Tyler
Speaker 3: Anderson have played phenomenal. You know, since they've been out.
Speaker 3: You've got Clayton Kershaw back. So it was you know,
Speaker 3: you traded one soul for another. Buehler goes, Clayton Kershaw
Speaker 3: comes back, and you've got Arias. They've got reinforcements in
Speaker 3: the minor leagues in the form of Bobby Miller, who
Speaker 3: is a absolute fireball thrower. He's relatively ready. If we
Speaker 3: want to be honest, I think he's in that same
Speaker 3: mold of Tony Gonsolin. Or they can take that firepower
Speaker 3: that they have as far. They've got dudes Miguel Vargas
Speaker 3: down there. They've got, like I said, Bob, they've got
Speaker 3: quite a few other really good prospects that they could package.
Speaker 3: Andy Pahas, they could package and make a big move.
Speaker 3: You know, dust It's funny Brian Fouts in the chat
Speaker 3: just brought up dustin May, and dust and May is
Speaker 3: really not gonna be anything of consequence for this team,
Speaker 3: you know, for the rest of this season. Maybe a
Speaker 3: little bit of bullpen help on the back half of
Speaker 3: the year, but they're gonna need So the decision for
Speaker 3: them is do they go minor leaguer do they go
Speaker 3: established pitcher. I think they got to go established pitcher.
Speaker 3: I kind of hate being the guy. I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm on here every week. I'm like, listen, the trade
Speaker 3: market's got to start up. I'm like some stock person.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's gonna pick up. It's got to, but
Speaker 3: it has to. I have to imagine no one wants
Speaker 3: to sell. But I can't imagine the Dodgers are gonna
Speaker 3: feel comfortable throwing in a rookie minor league pitcher to
Speaker 3: go with Tyler Anderson and Tony Gonson, who they have
Speaker 3: to also feel that they're getting just a little bit
Speaker 3: more out of than they could have possibly thought that.
Speaker 3: I think they got to be hyper aggressive because you're right,
Speaker 3: they have not been invincible. They've dropped stupid series here,
Speaker 3: and like the Mets, it's now to the Dodgers. I
Speaker 3: don't see how these hyper aggressive, big win, ninety hundred
Speaker 3: win teams can sit back and be complacent. They've got
Speaker 3: to make moves. And the Dodgers are now without Buehler
Speaker 3: until probably roughly into September or the playoffs, so I
Speaker 3: think they have got to make a trade. But they
Speaker 3: probably don't want unload the system because when Bueller comes
Speaker 3: back and into the playoffs, they still do have Tyler Anderson,
Speaker 3: they still do have Gonsol. I mean, they have a
Speaker 3: lot of guys that they could have rotation problems, but
Speaker 3: I think they got to make a move. Fantasy owners
Speaker 3: scour the wire. You're gonna have to scour the wire,
Speaker 3: and I think if you're in a ten or twelve
Speaker 3: team league, Joe, you tell me different. I think this
Speaker 3: is the time where you get into hyper stream. Hyper
Speaker 3: hyper stream, because at the end of the day, you
Speaker 3: can make it worse bigger leagues. It's gonna be impossible.
Speaker 3: You know, you're probably gonna have to trade from depth
Speaker 3: if you really want to make it, but you're gonna
Speaker 3: probably have to get into hyper stream and see if
Speaker 3: you can make up seventy five percent of it. I
Speaker 3: don't think there's an acquisition waiting out there for you
Speaker 3: that's gonna replace Walker Bueler. There's no picture. I mean,
Speaker 3: Max Meyer would be one of those guys we would
Speaker 3: sit and wait for to be called up. Grayson Ronbrieguez
Speaker 3: is down.
Speaker 1: I just don't think the guy Myer's around in a
Speaker 1: lot of leagues. A lot of people dropped him after
Speaker 1: they picked him up with the injury, so he might
Speaker 1: be a guy floating around there, and I think he
Speaker 1: will eventually show up. A couple things that were provocative.
Speaker 1: I think that you said the first one. You know,
Speaker 1: this is why the A's waited on montass because eventually
Speaker 1: there was going to be a desperate need and good
Speaker 1: on the A's, you know, not just taking whatever deal
Speaker 1: they could get in March or February that they actually
Speaker 1: waited and now it's going to pay off for them
Speaker 1: big time. Somebody's going to blink here in this so
Speaker 1: good job by the A's on that. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a foregone conclusion. You get Walker Bueler back for
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you get Walker Bueler back period. I just
Speaker 1: want to throw that out there. And the other thing
Speaker 1: I want to throw out there, which I think is
Speaker 1: something that nobody else is talking about. Talked about it
Speaker 1: a lot yesterday on the TV show the Tony gonsonine
Speaker 1: innings number and what that looks like. I know he's
Speaker 1: been fantastic, but the highest innings total he ever had
Speaker 1: was in the minor leagues in twenty eighteen to one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight. He has never thrown more than
Speaker 1: fifty seven innings in a major league season. That, my friends,
Speaker 1: is happening right now, right right now, he's a fifty seven.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how long you can count on him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, this is Walker Buehler is
Speaker 1: worse of an injury for them than Clayton Kershaw, because
Speaker 1: Kershaw's almost expected. Kershaw is kind of like the bonus,
Speaker 1: and it's been great that you've been getting Kershaw esque
Speaker 1: performances out of Gonsolin. But at the same time, whilsh
Speaker 1: I'm looking around now and you know Anderson was going
Speaker 1: to turn too a pumpkin, like, Yeah, that's a nice starts,
Speaker 1: it's fine, but they are in desperation moment they will
Speaker 1: have to go be aggressive, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in a couple things to add to that,
Speaker 3: I think part of that plan long term may have
Speaker 3: been that you're getting these amazing innings out of these
Speaker 3: guys that when you get towards the back half of
Speaker 3: the season, it's a great point about innings that they
Speaker 3: probably start stacking these guys together. Tyler Anderson and Tony
Speaker 3: Gonsolin could have become one starter on the back half
Speaker 3: of the year to manage innings. A great point that
Speaker 3: mayor brings up because I can completely forgot, is Andrew
Speaker 3: Heeney is going to come back. And Andrew heening was
Speaker 3: having an insane start to the season and he will
Speaker 3: be important for them to get back, and it could
Speaker 3: be a justification for them to not be aggressive. But
Speaker 3: then let's bring it back to your point where if
Speaker 3: you've got any innings issues with especially with Gonsolin or
Speaker 3: with Tyler Anderson, You're still gonna be down a guy.
Speaker 3: You're still theoretically down a guy, and it's inevitable. And
Speaker 3: you have more injury risk in your rotation than any
Speaker 3: other rotation in baseball. Right now, give me a rotation
Speaker 3: that's I mean, maybe you will give me one rotation
Speaker 3: that is more injury has more injury prone than the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the Mets because the two best owners they
Speaker 1: have are currently on the eve there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm talking about the guys that are there.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got he's coming off injury. You got
Speaker 3: Clayton Kurry.
Speaker 1: But but he needs not dependable. Gonsolin has been great,
Speaker 1: he's not dependable. You can't depend on on Anderson. Urious Look,
Speaker 1: this is a great performance. Maybe things are starting to
Speaker 1: turn around for him. I think that's that's great, hopeful.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling the Walker Buller injury in well, in
Speaker 1: some ways it's worse than a Mookie Bets injury. It's
Speaker 1: worse than a because it really hurts you. Then in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: really hurts you there when you get into those short
Speaker 1: series where you don't have that number one guy and look,
Speaker 1: you haven't been pitching like that anyway, which certainly I
Speaker 1: think him to understand.
Speaker 3: Turn it around.
Speaker 1: We hope for it to come back. But this is
Speaker 1: also something people should be aware of too. When you
Speaker 1: start to see a great pitcher who doesn't look like himself,
Speaker 1: be very leary because usually there's something going on. Typically
Speaker 1: it's more physical than it is mental or mechanical or
Speaker 1: things like that. Most of the time it's a physical issue,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it does rear its head and then the
Speaker 1: next thing you know, you go, oh, I wish I'd
Speaker 1: gotten out of it. And in readraft League sometimes you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, pick and choose your battles a little bit.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the rest of the headlines here.
Speaker 1: Justin Verlander goes seven and a win over the Marlins.
Speaker 1: Very nice outing for him. Josh Hater picked up his
Speaker 1: nineteenth save over on the injury wiresl Garcia to undergo
Speaker 1: an MRI today, Michael Kopek same thing, MRI on his
Speaker 1: knee yesterday. Lancelyn is going to be back for the
Speaker 1: White Sox on Monday. He's actually five k or five
Speaker 1: and a half on Pamble tonight. This whole show is
Speaker 1: being done from Vormir's. That's where the show is being
Speaker 1: done from. If you get that reference, then we could
Speaker 1: be friends. That's right. Chris Bryant is close to returning
Speaker 1: to baseball activity. That's good. So hopefully he can have
Speaker 1: some baseball activity, and Wander Franco can have some agility activity,
Speaker 1: and everyone can have some activity. Speaking of activity, can
Speaker 1: we talk about this the athletic Ken Rosenthal and his
Speaker 1: bow tie reporting that Wilson Contreras would make a particular
Speaker 1: sense for the Giants at the trade deadline. Now, the
Speaker 1: Giants just this week Welsh set Joey Bart down, The Rays,
Speaker 1: the Padres, the Mets are all floating out there too.
Speaker 1: The Padres and the Mets to meet are teams I
Speaker 1: think should be super aggressive on Contreras, especially the Padres,
Speaker 1: because I know the Mets have the young catcher at
Speaker 1: double Ah's got a thousand ops right now. They're very
Speaker 1: high on him. I get that. But if I can't
Speaker 1: see the Giants trading Joey barton trade, I don't still
Speaker 1: see them doing that. But I could see the Padres
Speaker 1: needing offense fixing a lot of things at one time here.
Speaker 1: Where do you think this market's going to start to
Speaker 1: heat up for controllers? Do you think it is the Giants.
Speaker 1: Do you think Joey Bart is that piece that gets
Speaker 1: it done, because it's going to take a big trade off, it's.
Speaker 3: Joey Bart that makes that done. I think they've got
Speaker 3: a kid named Kyle Harrison in the minor leagues who's
Speaker 3: just phenomenal right now. I mean the Giants pitchers in
Speaker 3: general just get it done. But Kyle Harrison, he would
Speaker 3: be the centerpiece of a trade. It probably wouldn't be
Speaker 3: too much more if the Giants were to make it.
Speaker 3: They don't have a ton of ammunition. But they got
Speaker 3: Eli Oramos, Marco Luciano, I guess, actually you know what
Speaker 3: they do, and Luis Matos. I mean they got a
Speaker 3: lot of younger guys that are lower that they could
Speaker 3: try to make that trade the Padres is funny because
Speaker 3: the Padres have been acquiring catchers like nobody's business for
Speaker 3: the last two years. I mean Austin, Nola, they had
Speaker 3: Victor Karantini who they moved.
Speaker 1: Away, Mahia before that too, Mahia before.
Speaker 3: They just have not committed to a guy, and it's
Speaker 3: like this would be like the sixth different catcher they
Speaker 3: had head for a time. I'm forgetting the kid, the
Speaker 3: Marlins kid who's there now? I completely am drying. Oh
Speaker 3: horey al Farrow. They've got to like maybe this would
Speaker 3: be the guy, but how much acquisition can they truly
Speaker 3: have in the catcher market. I think the Giants would
Speaker 3: make a ton of sense. I'm not so sure about
Speaker 3: the padres in here, but I think he will be
Speaker 3: a hot, hot commodity. Maybe even I would be remiss
Speaker 3: to say that, like he might be a hotter commodity
Speaker 3: than any of the starting pitchers that are out in
Speaker 3: the market, just because I think this can be, you know,
Speaker 3: the catcher for a team for quite a few years here.
Speaker 3: The Giants would make a lot of sense. Like I said,
Speaker 3: they've got they've got the minor league assets to move
Speaker 3: and you know they're in desperate need. Though. The only
Speaker 3: here's the only caveat. They've got a kid named Patrick
Speaker 3: Bailey in their minor league system who they drafted to
Speaker 3: be the future defensive catcher. Joey bart was. I think
Speaker 3: the plan was Patrick Bailey, who's older and could be
Speaker 3: coming up in the near future would be their catcher.
Speaker 3: Catcher and Bart would be the like first base DH
Speaker 3: occasional preacher, and Bart's bat has also not worked, so
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the team would unload. The Giants are
Speaker 3: pretty stubborn about how they are regardless of the point.
Speaker 3: Contreras's market will heat up soon and I think we'll
Speaker 3: see probably a pretty big trade for it. Padres I
Speaker 3: think would be a fantastic spot for him, but I
Speaker 3: would lean to the Giants over the Padres.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Mets would be out of that
Speaker 1: deal because I could see, you know, Uncle Stevie get
Speaker 1: going all in. I could.
Speaker 3: I just think they need pitching. I think they need
Speaker 3: to get in more pitching help with all that the injury.
Speaker 1: Well, I think if you're the Mets, figure you're getting
Speaker 1: Sureser into grond back at some point. That's what you're
Speaker 1: hoping for, That's what you're expecting. And if you get that,
Speaker 1: then you want to get more offense. You know, you
Speaker 1: want to go with something else is going to help
Speaker 1: the ball club. That's what I think, But you know,
Speaker 1: it depends on what that price is. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if The Yankees got in on this too,
Speaker 1: because I think he I mean the Yankees right now,
Speaker 1: will just you know, I.
Speaker 3: Know, I mean, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: The Yankees big big game changer there now.
Speaker 3: So you know, God, you brought that up because they're
Speaker 3: they're pitching, they've got the depth and the miners, they've
Speaker 3: got the starters, they're they're starting offensive players. But Contraras
Speaker 3: makes all the sense in the world to the Yankees
Speaker 3: for me. The Mets they're kind of like in that
Speaker 3: same vein of like would they invest in a guy
Speaker 3: when they've got a guy sitting in the wings, you know,
Speaker 3: and Pat Patrick Bailey isn't Francisco Alvarez like the Mets are.
Speaker 3: But Alvarez is within one year of whether it's this
Speaker 3: year or early next year. Would they really unload to
Speaker 3: get Contrari's I don't think Alvarez should hold them back.
Speaker 3: I just don't know if they would. The Yankees, though,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, would make sense because that would probably
Speaker 3: be probably called better games even though but you know,
Speaker 3: here's another argument not to go down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Look at how well the pitchers have pitched. Do you
Speaker 3: want to take that that catching staff away? What role
Speaker 3: do they play in the success so.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess here's the argument. Counter arguation to that is,
Speaker 1: you know, if you lose, you know, two to one
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, who cares right in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta.
Speaker 4: Have offense too, you know, and and and and and
Speaker 4: I think that the you know, outside a judge, the
Speaker 4: Yankee offense is a little all over the play I
Speaker 4: mean like They's tours went on a run, Rizzo went
Speaker 4: on a run.
Speaker 1: Like that's what you always get guys, that going a run.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know Contreras. Catreras is right now.
Speaker 1: I think at his peak. And I've always liked the player,
Speaker 1: but I never thought he was a franchise player. I
Speaker 1: still don't, but I think he is really hitting his
Speaker 1: peak right now, and I think this is a really
Speaker 1: interesting time to acquire him. Fun facts. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of them today. I know, Welsh los fun facts. Justin
Speaker 1: Erlander now has the most wins in Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: with eight. He is a year and a half a
Speaker 1: move from Tommy John surgery, and in his first season back,
Speaker 1: he has a one point nine four ERA, a fifth
Speaker 1: best in Major League Baseball. Fine once again, Cy young,
Speaker 1: Let's go thirty five point one. That's the miles per
Speaker 1: hour of Frank Schwindel's pitch, which is the slowest known
Speaker 1: measured pitch in Major League Baseball ever to get hit
Speaker 1: for a home run on Sunday. So I saw the pitch.
Speaker 1: It was very interesting.
Speaker 3: I very much enjoyed watching that pitch just get absolutely murdered.
Speaker 3: It was like softball. It was the the one softball
Speaker 3: moment of baseball that I saw like it was a
Speaker 3: softball pitch, and it looked exactly how a softball player
Speaker 3: would approach trying to hit a home run. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was hilarious.
Speaker 3: More now, thirty miles an hour is what I say.
Speaker 3: Which more of that.
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, baby, I'm here for it. Speaking
Speaker 1: of a little history, how about today in baseball history,
Speaker 1: let's do a little of that here today, in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, Roger Clemens, after four unsuccessful tries, finally
Speaker 1: hits a three hundred win club, and everybody rejoices because
Speaker 1: he's such a popular, wonderful, liked player. Everybody loves Roger Clemens.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Roger Clemens, though he is no no stranger,
Speaker 1: to the cy Young Award himself. He has won that
Speaker 1: award on several occasions. In fact, he has won it
Speaker 1: one two, three, four five Wait wait, one two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five six seven times. I thought it was five, but
Speaker 1: he won it seven times. That's pretty impressive. There's three
Speaker 1: major league teams that still haven't ever had a cy
Speaker 1: Young winner. Who are those three major league teams?
Speaker 4: Games?
Speaker 1: There? You go, drop your answers in the chat. Make
Speaker 1: sure you suscribe to I guess it will be if
Speaker 1: you want to take a guess, of course you can.
Speaker 3: The Rays.
Speaker 1: Uh. Okay, that's one guest there. You know if that
Speaker 1: is correct, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're not telling I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give some people some time. But in the
Speaker 1: in the meantime, while we're doing that, one of them
Speaker 1: is very obvious. Okay, deep dive time. J trail Mutwo
Speaker 1: stats have not been great. Two forty nine batting average,
Speaker 1: just three homers, ops is under seven hundred. He's still
Speaker 1: ranked as the second best catcher in terms of war
Speaker 1: this season. Are you buying on J. T reil Muto
Speaker 1: or is this the decline of a catcher Fantasy speaking wise,
Speaker 1: what do you think.
Speaker 3: I think, well, do you mean of this catcher or
Speaker 3: the catcher in general.
Speaker 1: Of this catcher of JT Reil Muto?
Speaker 3: Oh, blake'snoll. I forgot about that. Oh man.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say it until somebody said Blake's
Speaker 1: now because I need.
Speaker 3: Respect. I think I think the overall catcher has been declining,
Speaker 3: and this is why I'm relatively I've been anti catcher
Speaker 3: in fantasy for the most part. The people that always
Speaker 3: want the edge of like I'm gonna take the best guy,
Speaker 3: and it's like the best guy is fluid year to year.
Speaker 3: I mean Dalton varshow I have near the top due
Speaker 3: to homer stolen bases leading off Romuto. I think if
Speaker 3: the cost is cheap, that's always my approach with these catchers.
Speaker 3: But I don't think anybody's looking to trade Ramuto at
Speaker 3: like a big discount. I think he exists in a
Speaker 3: top like like top three or four. I think Salvi
Speaker 3: var Show and are probably one two, and then there's
Speaker 3: this tier of Romuto. I don't know if Will Smith
Speaker 3: still sits in there. You probably put you put Contraras
Speaker 3: into that space. I don't know if I need to
Speaker 3: go out and get that big advantage at catcher when
Speaker 3: I think you and also stream the position. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's only of the good qualified catchers that show up
Speaker 3: for war by the way I'm fangrafts, there's only seven
Speaker 3: of them, so you have to take off qualifications. But
Speaker 3: if you're out there looking for stats, you're not going
Speaker 3: to get necessarily the stolen bases. But keibert Ruiz isn't
Speaker 3: performing at that ridiculous of a level. I mean, Christian
Speaker 3: Bettencourt for the A's right now is four homers and
Speaker 3: four stolen bases with a betting better batting average. That
Speaker 3: and j Melinda is another one of those, hitting two
Speaker 3: fifty eight with six homers. My point is, is is
Speaker 3: it really worth trading a major asset for a two
Speaker 3: forty nine batting average with six dolen bases at the
Speaker 3: catcher position when you can make up the other categories,
Speaker 3: probably by streaming or for cheap So as much as
Speaker 3: he's the underperformance, I would say is worth the buy.
Speaker 3: But I don't think the cost will be worth the
Speaker 3: buy with how catchers tend to go, so I would
Speaker 3: actually say no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think no is the answer as well.
Speaker 3: You should.
Speaker 1: Catchers in the second half are worse. I think Real
Speaker 1: Muta will play better, but I don't want to make
Speaker 1: that investment for the second half. And just so everybody knows,
Speaker 1: the Padres are not one of those teams. They have
Speaker 1: four cy Youngs seventy six, seventy eight, eighty nine, and
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. So those people, and I think
Speaker 1: somebody pointed out Jake Peavy was one of them.
Speaker 3: Perhaps ev I love Jake Peevy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Roes have got to be one where it
Speaker 1: was it Burns when I PV spelled like Eric Burns.
Speaker 3: And oh Eric, I'm telling you Eric PV, not Jake TV.
Speaker 3: I'm confusing that Eric Burns not one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: Jake Pev was like my favorite growing up. My two
Speaker 3: favorite players. It's funny. My very very first Dynastic we
Speaker 3: ever played in Bogman and I I traded the first
Speaker 3: overall pick to go to two so I could take
Speaker 3: Vladimir Guerrero Senior and then I could come back and
Speaker 3: take Jake Pev before Bogman could. That was I.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of TV shares for many many years.
Speaker 1: It's funny the Padres actually have more Cy Youngs than
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Giants, but you never would have thought
Speaker 1: that too. Rocky got to be one of those, right,
Speaker 1: the Rockies are one of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, that is correct, though my Campton never could do
Speaker 3: it with them.
Speaker 1: I saw Marlins was in the chat. Last one here.
Speaker 1: Finally Brian got it. The Rangers, the Texas Rangers have
Speaker 1: never had Cy young The Rockies, Marlins and Rangers. Three teams.
Speaker 1: No Cy Youngs between the three of them. It's funny
Speaker 1: because you always had the Cincinnati Rens, who just got
Speaker 1: their first one in twenty twenty. You would have thought
Speaker 1: the Reds would have had somebody in all these years,
Speaker 1: but no, no Reds. The Rays had one in twenty
Speaker 1: twelve and twenty eighteen. Wasn't David Price. Didn't you want
Speaker 1: to say young Let's say David Price was one of them?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, no respect, I just cheated. I cheated. Now,
Speaker 3: was just like, what what are the young teams? I
Speaker 3: immediately went to the young teams?
Speaker 1: So, yeah, well that's that's fine. Twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: What the Rangers surprises me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh no, I understand, I understand. Well, you know
Speaker 1: when you think about like the Rangers you know, it's
Speaker 1: always a hard ballpark to pitchure in the nineties, and
Speaker 1: then before that, you know, they they they had older
Speaker 1: pictures like Ferguson Jenkins gonna retread like that. That was
Speaker 1: the kind of organization they didn't really.
Speaker 3: Hitt on Cockey.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was right, David Price twenty five and twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: Mayor just posted my exact mental thought process. I would
Speaker 3: have thought Nolan Ryan had he says nine, I would
Speaker 3: have said like fourteen, Like.
Speaker 1: I oh battle, because he never won a cy Young
Speaker 1: with the Rangers, but he won his cy Young's with
Speaker 1: if any one with Houston. Okay, I realize peak Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 1: You know he pitched for the California Angels. He was good,
Speaker 1: But peak Nolan Ryan is the same JR. Richard period
Speaker 1: where you get like the late seventies, early eighties Nolan Ryan,
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty one, eighty two Nolan Ryan. That era
Speaker 1: of Nolan Ryan was so good and then obviously the
Speaker 1: later version into eighty six when he made the playoffs
Speaker 1: with that team and then eventually moved on to the
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. But no, he did not win so the
Speaker 1: Rangers again, the Rangers of that team that has like
Speaker 1: this older starters, this retread guys. Some of the ones
Speaker 1: from the Padres were pretty interesting. Mark Davis in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine. That was one of them, which I recall
Speaker 1: because I'm old. Uh. And for the Padres you had
Speaker 1: here's some fun ones to some names from the past.
Speaker 1: We had Eric Ganye the last reliever, win a Cy
Speaker 1: Young in two thousand, Chris Carpenter in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: Brandon Webb in two thousand and six, Jake Peavey in
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, tim Linseigham back to back in
Speaker 1: eight nine, and then Roy Halliday for the Phillies in
Speaker 1: twenty ten. Again, these are the National League guys. And
Speaker 1: then there was a twenty twelve ra A Dickey year
Speaker 1: for the Mets. Remember when young, what a beautiful time.
Speaker 3: Wasn't he involved in the wasn't he involved in like
Speaker 3: the cinderguard trade or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, cinderguard and you got Travis Darnault and Cindergart. All right,
Speaker 1: we're being told to move on. We're getting counted off
Speaker 1: here by Mayor stat Heroes from the weekend. John Gray
Speaker 1: six innings, one earned three hits, ten K's Luis Evarino
Speaker 1: ten k's of his own with one earned over six
Speaker 1: Urius we mentioned with his ten k's over two earned
Speaker 1: runs six innings. Pitch Walker was great, Nick Martinez, where
Speaker 1: did that performance come from? Nine k's one earned run.
Speaker 1: Joe Muskrove, I've got two shares left for National League
Speaker 1: Cy Young. It's all invested in Musgrove, and it's all
Speaker 1: invested in al Contra musk Grove, dick Ks no earned
Speaker 1: runs like the Musgrove narrative might build though as the
Speaker 1: season goes on, because the Padres are going to be
Speaker 1: in contention. The Marlins are not, and that I think
Speaker 1: might be the difference maker for Musgrove. But this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a fascating race. Now's the time to get
Speaker 1: in on it because those two guys are going to
Speaker 1: the moon. Carlos Rodan eight k's that nice bounce back performance,
Speaker 1: no earned over six innings. Hey, look the Jose Burrios
Speaker 1: good start. Five k's eight one earned run. Jordan Montgomery
Speaker 1: continues to be very solid. He's put together a really
Speaker 1: good twenty twenty one and a really good start to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. And I see Jordan Montgomery really turning
Speaker 1: things in the right direction his career. Seth Brown three
Speaker 1: for twelve with three dingers, though Pete Alonzo with two
Speaker 1: home runs, So I guess the hand is fine. HEYESL
Speaker 1: Jaguilar two runs, Nelson Cruz had two of them runs,
Speaker 1: Josh Bell had two of them runs, Brian Reynolds at
Speaker 1: two them runs, Jared Walsh had a home run hit
Speaker 1: for the cycle, and Aaron Judge six for thirteen, two
Speaker 1: home runs.
Speaker 3: All these players I could have picked this weekend. All
Speaker 3: these players.
Speaker 1: I can't believe. They scored seventeen runs and judged hit
Speaker 1: in the home run in that game. I can't believe anyhow,
Speaker 1: wouldn't I guess you're the losers. The stat zero's Eric
Speaker 1: lower eight earned five k I'm telling five innings rather,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, dude, the Milwaukee Brewers are
Speaker 1: in serious trouble on that division. Serious.
Speaker 3: Remember I've been picking on Laour a whole lot because
Speaker 3: he was living, he was living the high life off
Speaker 3: of that insane fastball that he was getting. It just
Speaker 3: didn't seem sustainable. It was more like a reliever's fastball.
Speaker 3: And now the secondaries were doing all right, and it's
Speaker 3: just falling apart. Now. It just it didn't. None of
Speaker 3: it seems sustainable, and it's starting to unravel a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely is. There's no doubt about that. So are
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers who started except because Aaron Ashby six
Speaker 1: earned runs for him. Martin Perez finally showed up twelve hit,
Speaker 1: six earned runs. That's Martin Perez. That's the guy I know.
Speaker 1: Carlos Carrasco five earned runs. If you listen to the
Speaker 1: waiver Wire Mountain, sorry not the wave Wire, the by
Speaker 1: Cell video last week, it was trading Martin Perez. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you listen to you did that before this start. Carlos
Speaker 1: Carrasco five earned runs for him. Mackenzie Gore six earned runs,
Speaker 1: bad star for him. Shane Boz came back. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go crazy about this his first game back,
Speaker 1: five and runs two and a third. Let's not go
Speaker 1: crazy about Chris Stratton gave up five earned did not
Speaker 1: get a single out, and Zach Gallon six runs, four
Speaker 1: of them arened defense and not helping. Now the hitters,
Speaker 1: here's who was miserable. Welsh Connor Joe two for seventeen
Speaker 1: with six strikeouts. Remember at Connor Joe every beginning of
Speaker 1: the air. That was fun. Remember that that.
Speaker 3: I was never a Connor Joe type of guy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: not looking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Jesse Winker another two for twelve. He did at a
Speaker 1: home run, but six more strikeouts for him. Cabrian Hayes
Speaker 1: one for twelve, TREMENCDI won for eleven. Horius Hilaire hitless
Speaker 1: with six gays. Julio two for fourteen, doesn't matter, He's Julio.
Speaker 1: He's great. Three for sixteen. Cole Calhoun one eighty eight.
Speaker 1: That was another thing we talked about. Ride the Wave.
Speaker 1: Pick up col Calhoun two weeks ago and immediately he
Speaker 1: was in the cell column the next week. So hopefully
Speaker 1: you picked him up. He did well and you moved on.
Speaker 1: And if you listen to that, you've been doing very
Speaker 1: well here. Home run calls for the weekend title. Chaser
Speaker 1: got two from Byron Buckston on Friday, not get two
Speaker 1: Welsh I thought he did. I was all happy for
Speaker 1: Welsh because they thought he called Buckston by forgot.
Speaker 3: And now I'm gonna chase Buston like all we now,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get back to chasing my Buckston and it's
Speaker 3: just not gonna work.
Speaker 1: And I just don't want to chase your own Buckston.
Speaker 1: Usually you want somebody else to do that for you.
Speaker 1: But here you go. Title chaser ties to Blum at
Speaker 1: twenty two. I King of North still hanging around at
Speaker 1: twenty one, high Cubby at twenty. Then you got at nineteen,
Speaker 1: of the rest of the people at nineteen, and then
Speaker 1: four others tied with Joey p eighteen. I see, Larry
Speaker 1: c Up there too, are good Pala Larry c So,
Speaker 1: I mean you.
Speaker 3: Gotta put Joe on the board. If Joe is tied
Speaker 3: at eighteen with others, we can't put I'm sorry, but
Speaker 3: you can't put a Rando on there. You gotta put
Speaker 3: Joey on there.
Speaker 1: So congratulations hashtag no randos.
Speaker 3: No randos. I hope I can get there someday. I
Speaker 3: hope I can be a big boy just like you guys.
Speaker 3: But not yet. I'm sitting at I think thirteen.
Speaker 1: So I'm Mayor was still salty. Mayor was so salty
Speaker 1: about you know, this is the guy who called Bryce
Speaker 1: Harper five thousand times this year. He's so salty that
Speaker 1: I called Aaron Judge give me crap about Oh it's
Speaker 1: a us call Aaron judge how many times he called Harper,
Speaker 1: how many times he called a lot. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: been like the king of the easy home run. It's
Speaker 1: not about easy, it's not about heart. It's about right
Speaker 1: and wrong. Baby. Just get him right and wrong. And
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it right now, and I am talking smack
Speaker 1: because I can. I'm on the board and Mike Maher
Speaker 1: is not.
Speaker 3: Whooo.
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Speaker 1: Ronald of Coonia total bases one and a half. That's
Speaker 1: at minus one fifteen over at betmgm. These are all
Speaker 1: bet mgm today. Christian Javier five and a half k's
Speaker 1: I will go with the over against the Texas Rangers.
Speaker 1: On that Cole Calhoun alone is good for three minus
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Speaker 1: five for one and a half total bases, and Vlad
Speaker 1: Guerrero one and a half total bases is at minus
Speaker 1: one oh five as well. What do you got today,
Speaker 1: Welsh for us in terms of the betting market.
Speaker 3: I got to going with the strikeout only one strikeout one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back to Aaron Nola. I didn't hit
Speaker 3: it last time. It was a high number. I think
Speaker 3: it was at seven and a half. I think he
Speaker 3: ended at six. But Nola has been phenomenal. A week
Speaker 3: couple weeks ago I laid out that you know, as
Speaker 3: far as like prolific strikeouts, he was the least walky
Speaker 3: guy of anyone inside that top strikeout marker, and only
Speaker 3: really more proficient guys were see McClanahan and I think
Speaker 3: Garrett Cole or Corman Burns were the only other two.
Speaker 3: It's said at six and a half, and I am
Speaker 3: going to take the over up against Miami. They're bottom
Speaker 3: six in the league on strikeouts, So give me Aaron Nola.
Speaker 3: Love that one, and I am gonna chase my Buckston
Speaker 3: and give me Buxton total base overs. Now, the last
Speaker 3: five games where he's now he didn't get a hit
Speaker 3: in his last one or two. I think it was one,
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if he was in the other.
Speaker 3: But his last five games where he has gotten a hit,
Speaker 3: which I think accumulates the last eight games he has
Speaker 3: hit the two total base marker tonight, Flexen. He is
Speaker 3: a perfect five for five against in the career. So
Speaker 3: last five games when he gets hits, they equate to
Speaker 3: over two total bases. Actually a lot of homers as well,
Speaker 3: lots of doubles in there. To give me bucks in
Speaker 3: total bases. Aaron Nola strikeouts put it on the board.
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of people in the CHET
Speaker 1: don't care for the Rando's comment, to which I say,
Speaker 1: have more home runs than me and you won't be
Speaker 1: a random Oh man, I am, I am feeling it.
Speaker 1: I like this one today. I don't know why, don't
Speaker 1: really take my daughter to the doctor. Probably so I'm
Speaker 1: already in a bad mood.
Speaker 3: Oh I know, well, we're gonna get heal here because
Speaker 3: this is the mom This is exactly what Rando would say.
Speaker 3: The randos are why you guys are getting paid to
Speaker 3: do this. I love that comment.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's they might be the reason the show
Speaker 1: even exists. Period.
Speaker 3: Those two people.
Speaker 1: You're gonna throw JP in there're maybe doctor Glenn. You're
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. I don't care because it's a
Speaker 1: funny bit. That's all I care about is the bid.
Speaker 3: But we're gonna go with the randos. We're gonna talk
Speaker 3: about the random Sorry, but yes, you are. You are
Speaker 3: the king of the Randos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Mike Mayor trying to rally the randos. You know,
Speaker 1: the Rando rallier. That's what you are, Mayor guy.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like that.
Speaker 1: Try to do it all, Mayor, try to get everything
Speaker 1: you can there. All right, let's go to the DFS
Speaker 1: late for the night real quick, and then our home
Speaker 1: run calls. So tonight I'll controverse Aaron Nola. A contre
Speaker 1: is ten point two, Aeronola's ten point one. Look, if
Speaker 1: you want to be different, you go eron Nola in
Speaker 1: the tournaments. But I'm telling you right now, we Contra
Speaker 1: and cashould be crazy not to. Over his last six
Speaker 1: starts wonder and run or less than every single one
Speaker 1: of them. He's been as dominants you could possibly get.
Speaker 1: So just keep it simple tonight, and then if you're
Speaker 1: looking to scale down Merle, we keep talking about Merle.
Speaker 1: Kelly here, Meryl. Look, Merle shows up. He's just seven
Speaker 1: point nine. He's the perfect price. If you want to
Speaker 1: go Christian Abby at nine to six, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of inequity Darvage at eight point four.
Speaker 1: If you want to split the difference, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: I would not pair al contra Or and Nola with
Speaker 1: Manoa tonight. That's too expensive. You're not gonna get enough offense.
Speaker 1: So take one of those two pitchers, have your tornment lineup,
Speaker 1: have your cash lineup, and then switch them to just
Speaker 1: put one in one tournament one in the other, just
Speaker 1: just because you want to have that one Contra in
Speaker 1: the tournament, just in case it goes off and either's
Speaker 1: a complete game shut out or something like that if
Speaker 1: you have multi entry kind of a player. But Merle
Speaker 1: is the cheap way out tonight. Darbish is the mid
Speaker 1: Rangejavier the higher one, but I think you do just
Speaker 1: as well with Merlin and get more offense on FanDuel.
Speaker 1: Same thing. Have your contra lineup, which is eleven point three.
Speaker 1: It's super expensive, but you almost have to have it.
Speaker 1: Lance Limit is a TRAPID five to five. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go after it. Merril Kelly is nine point nine, Nola's
Speaker 1: ten point two, Manoa is ten point eight. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna spend ten point eight, you might as well go
Speaker 1: up to a contra. I mean the Philly strikeout of
Speaker 1: fair amount to I don't know, Welch. That's how I
Speaker 1: see the board keeping it simple tonight, Toronto, stand Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Play Land. By the way, I just want to point out,
Speaker 3: like to your point, everyone on the planet's gonna play Lens.
Speaker 1: And there will be there will be people who play
Speaker 1: it because if you play it and it hit. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you can get every piece you want and play Land tonight.
Speaker 1: But Lyn's gotta go five innings, and he's got to
Speaker 1: have some win equity in order to make it even
Speaker 1: turn out. Even at that cost, he's still gotta have
Speaker 1: win equity. Toronto, Houston, Minnesota. Those are the stacks for tonight,
Speaker 1: Gabriel Moreno is just two point two one dk underd Doz.
Speaker 1: You're swinging a good back three point six Michael chaevs
Speaker 1: at three k hundred Dozer on FanDuel two point seven
Speaker 1: Chaves two point five Moreno two point zero. Buxton is
Speaker 1: the play tonight, Welsh. Before we even came and talk today,
Speaker 1: you know I had Buckston already in the home run sheet.
Speaker 1: Let's go five for five. Let's make it four for
Speaker 1: four tonight with four home runs all the Buckston where
Speaker 1: you're going for your home run tonight? You want to
Speaker 1: come come up? You want to join the Buckston trink.
Speaker 3: I mean I too, But I want to get some
Speaker 3: separation here. I mean, yeah, there's not much of an effect.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Therenado. I'm gonna try to get some
Speaker 3: boards off on the side here. You got him, take him.
Speaker 3: I would have taken him if he wasn't on here.
Speaker 3: I might, you know what, I might even commit to
Speaker 3: a whole week of Buckston if we can get there,
Speaker 3: if I can start getting back up. But you got Bucks,
Speaker 3: and I got Aaron outa who does mayor.
Speaker 1: Have who knows he's probably got Judge no he's got
Speaker 1: jose L Twova. That's what he's trying to hurt me personally,
Speaker 1: picking one of my favorite little players.
Speaker 3: He's trying to like he needs to start picking, like
Speaker 3: he'll start picking the random so like he I like
Speaker 3: how he's getting into this bit. He wants to be
Speaker 3: King of the Randos, trying to round against us, but
Speaker 3: just start picking like just like random, like no name
Speaker 3: guy me.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, Mrs stuck at sixteen.
Speaker 3: Through, he's like David Peralta.
Speaker 1: We're like all right, and JP is one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: JP is like this Rando has one home run today
Speaker 1: and joeyp's off the board. You're right, JP, And that's
Speaker 1: why I love you. See this is fun. This is
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 3: Ran They were owning this thing for.
Speaker 1: Like two years. The leader, this is the Randos are
Speaker 1: are crushing us all year, and this is the fun
Speaker 1: of it. We're trying to have fun. Baseball is supposed
Speaker 1: to be fun. We're supposed to laugh and enjoy life.
Speaker 1: This isn't real life.
Speaker 3: This is a lot of fun anymore there, Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but doctor Glenn, I do I expect Doctor Glenn
Speaker 1: to change his name to doctor Rando. Tomorrow. Here in
Speaker 1: the chat, I'm all about that, So that'll do it
Speaker 1: for us. We went long today, but obviously it was
Speaker 1: worth it because it was fun and we had a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to talk about. So we'll be back
Speaker 1: again tomorrow to do it all again. Make sure you
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Speaker 1: all your baseball talk. That'll do it for us, But
Speaker 1: the story of the game goes on for Welsh I'm
Speaker 1: Joey p See you next time. Rando's By Rando's