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Speaker 1: JP. Always a pleasure being with you. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me back. Yeah, and here we are and the Jags

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Speaker 1: are going to Houston in Week five. The Jags have

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Speaker 1: their head coach. Bill O'Brien did not make it to

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Speaker 1: interim head coach. I'm interested in what kind of short

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Speaker 1: of energy. I think anytime you make a change like this,

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Speaker 1: And even before he was let go, you heard J. J.

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Speaker 1: and it did. So. I think that the team will

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Speaker 1: There's there's to a lot of things they need to

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Speaker 1: correct with that team in that organization. But in the

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Speaker 1: short term JP, I agree that this should help Houston

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Speaker 1: infighting and even up to this week with J. J. Watton,

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien on the practice field going at it apparently,

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Speaker 1: to get this done. Yeah, and you and me are

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Speaker 1: does seem like the locker room was lost a little

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Speaker 1: locker room, you know, I think the climate was was sour.

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these moves that Bill O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: the general manager made, have hurt the team that Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien coached. And when you when you've mortgage so much

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Speaker 1: for short term success, knowing that the future is going

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Speaker 1: to be difficult, I mean, the next GM of this

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Speaker 1: team is going to have his hands full. So I

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Speaker 1: do believe that, um, that there was just enough build up.

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Speaker 1: It's not just because of four straight losses. This was

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Speaker 1: down time for O'Brien in Houston. Andrew Catalan with us

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports has the play by playoffs Today's Jaguars Texans game. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is the Jaguars team that on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: last week battled a handful of big injuries. A bunch

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Speaker 1: and it was a youth movement of sorts to begin with,

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Speaker 1: But when you start losing veterans like d J, Hayden Miles,

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Speaker 1: Mixon started to run wild that some of those guys

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Speaker 1: They don't have those as many game reps as you'd

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Speaker 1: Morone a lot of credit. I do think that, more

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Speaker 1: withstand some key injuries like this. DeShawn Watson holds the

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Speaker 1: the storyline last week to the pass rush was getting

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Speaker 1: the future is around him in Houston. Andrew, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I think that that Jags Pats rush really has to

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Speaker 1: his ability to hold on to the football and make plays.

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Speaker 1: But so far this year it hasn't worked out for him.

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Speaker 1: And you look at that Jaguars front. I mean, Tavin

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Speaker 1: in Week five, Andrew Catalan with his CBS Sports, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars offense has some pieces. This is a can be

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Speaker 1: a fun group to watch at times, at least, you know,

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Speaker 1: has been a great edition. Leaviscus Jernaults playing all over

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Speaker 1: last week. D J. Chark obviously a difference maker. We

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Speaker 1: This is a fun group of Ja Gruden pushing the

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Speaker 1: just never know when he's gonna rip off a fifty

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Gardner Minshew, but there is some element

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Speaker 1: of that when you call Minshew and this Jaguars offense,

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Speaker 1: because is he gonna come out and go nineteen and

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Speaker 1: feel like he's such an exciting and intriguing player, and

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, JP, the pieces around him this year

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Speaker 1: great story. I think char continues to emerge as one

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Speaker 1: goes along. So I agree that there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: intrigue and interest with this off fense, and they are

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Speaker 1: capable of scoring a lot of points. Alright. Final thought,

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt is still suiting up for the Houston

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Speaker 1: he was some years ago that's otherworldly where he won

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Speaker 1: three Defensive Player of the Year awards, But if you

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Speaker 1: His motor never stops and he's the guy that makes

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Speaker 1: Houston tick on defense. Yeah, a couple of things. You know,

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Speaker 1: his competitiveness, he can't be happy to be on four.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he said as much after the game last Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is he's only two sacks away from

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that he's got to be thinking about that.

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't he loved knock them both out against Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: a team where he has sacked their quarterbacks sixteen times

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Speaker 1: in his career. So I think that J. J. Watt

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Speaker 1: will never have You'll never have to push him to

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Speaker 1: get up for a game. He'll be fired up to

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Speaker 1: go against Minshew and the Jags. Andrew great stuff, as always,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time and have a great call, all right, JP,

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Speaker 1: Thanks pal,