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Speaker 1: I lost. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay here? I well, I would look more

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Speaker 1: like the long term. I mean, it's not great to

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Speaker 1: have this situation against the Falcons on Thursday night with

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Speaker 1: Al Shawan Jeffrey is still a situation, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys out for the Eagles. But this

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Speaker 1: is a team that I trust long term this season,

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Speaker 1: and I think we forget how long the seasons are.

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Speaker 1: That if you need to put fulls in there for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, that you absolutely don't rush Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz back before he's ready to go. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: many times the Super Bowl champion has been the underdog

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Speaker 1: in the NFL kickoff game. They're though, I would pick

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Speaker 1: the Falcons in this game, and I would do it

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Speaker 1: confidently Desert people say otherwise and would no. But you're

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Speaker 1: going from from that super football team angle. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I agree. I think most people wind up

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Speaker 1: picking the Falcons in that game. Maybe we all will

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Speaker 1: on on Tuesday night if if we're gonna pick that game,

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Speaker 1: because I I agree with you, I love the Falcons

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Speaker 1: coming into this season. But maybe that's like what Nick

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Speaker 1: all his likes like every time that you know, when

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Speaker 1: we assumed Nick, maybe he just had two good games

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Speaker 1: and we think too deeply. Uh, yeah, he had a

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Speaker 1: great season, and people forget he's had some ups in

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Speaker 1: his career. I mean he had he didn't have a

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Speaker 1: great season last year. No, I mean two touch sons

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Speaker 1: in a in an interception, all right. And last thing

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Speaker 1: before we closed the news, it was cut down weekend

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Speaker 1: as teams look to get to the final fifty three

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Speaker 1: man roster. Uh and this is a tough time on

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Speaker 1: the calendar. So let's let's go through some notable names

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Speaker 1: that jumped out to you, guys that may be surprised you.

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Speaker 1: Mark Cecil will start with you. How about Dan Billy

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Speaker 1: getting cut by the Cowboys, the second most accurate kicker

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Speaker 1: in the Mast history. I think I got kicker corner.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was excited to bring up Dan Valley. Mark,

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Speaker 1: I will say nothing else I'll allow you to say

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Speaker 1: to add to that, it's gonna be next actually all

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Speaker 1: of our next contracts that we're not even allowed to

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Speaker 1: speak on kickers anymore. Dan Valley a surprise, God, he

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Speaker 1: made he was making good money for Dallas and maybe

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Speaker 1: you that was behind it, or why don't you tell

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Speaker 1: us where? He's working out this week for the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets, which make a lot of sense because the

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Speaker 1: Jets have a lot of um anxiety about who their

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Speaker 1: kicker is going to be after they let Chandler Canon

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Speaker 1: zero signed with the Bucks. So yeah, he's working out

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Speaker 1: another name that jumps out. If we're gonna say on

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Speaker 1: the kicker corner, robbi Iguyo didn't make it. Yeah, tough, tough,

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Speaker 1: he didn't make it. Uh, what jumped out to you,

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Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch? Not that it was a surprise, but just

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Speaker 1: that it came a day later than the original initial cuts,

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Speaker 1: you know, were announced. In the fact that they're replacing

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Speaker 1: him with Kevin Hogan is like a bit of a

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Speaker 1: kick in the teeth. So they just does John Elway

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Speaker 1: assess that Kevin Hogan gives them a better chance to

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Speaker 1: win than Paxton Lynch? Not either do, but it's like, really,

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Speaker 1: that's damning. Who else Tom Savage is now out of

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Speaker 1: the league. You know that doesn't surprise me. You know

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Speaker 1: what stuck out to me though, is Terrence Newman retired

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Speaker 1: at forty So that wasn't a cut, but I think

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Speaker 1: you can probably surmise that he was not going to

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Speaker 1: make the team. Uh and they, you know, decided to

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Speaker 1: have a conversation with him. That is a guy just

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Speaker 1: in under the radar, great player for the Bengals and

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Speaker 1: Vikings that he made it to age forty as a

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Speaker 1: super undersized cornerback. So and it just happened to be

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Speaker 1: a really deep cornerback room there in Minnesota right now.

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Speaker 1: And some injuries I think maybe squeezed him out, but

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Speaker 1: an incredible career. How about the state of Corey Coleman's

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Speaker 1: career right now? He's basically Justin Gilbert, a first round

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Speaker 1: pick from the Browns who his attitude was questioned throughout

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Speaker 1: his stay, has no value left at all. Just a

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Speaker 1: couple of years after he was drafted. He hasn't had

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Speaker 1: any lower body injuries. He obviously has to have incredible

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Speaker 1: raw ability to be a first round pick, even if

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been that high. Where is that is

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Speaker 1: that just not on display Like I don't. It's it's

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Speaker 1: baffling to me that a Buffalo team. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: they made the wrong decision that they wouldn't just hold

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Speaker 1: onto the guy and try to cultivate him, but there

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Speaker 1: must be nothing to work. They must have not been well.

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Speaker 1: They probably happily surprised. Whether it's desire or you know,

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Speaker 1: there was talk about ability to you know, pick up

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Speaker 1: the playbook stuff like that. They did make the wrong

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Speaker 1: decision to trade for him, I mean, the seventh round

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Speaker 1: pick whatever, but they're actually had he has like three

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Speaker 1: million dollars on their captives year. I mean they get

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Speaker 1: to give him money. The Martavis Bryant deal almost like

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Speaker 1: took the heat off of the bills for that because

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Speaker 1: it was so bad. But that was that was pretty

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Speaker 1: ugly bad news for Spice Rack Jonathan Williams surprise cut

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Speaker 1: by the Saints. Another surprise, uh, not really surprised, but

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Speaker 1: another first round pick along with Lynch that got whack

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Speaker 1: Brashad Perriman, who ends what was really a deeply disappointing

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Speaker 1: a couple of years with the Ravens now working up

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. Now maybe their worst first round pick

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Speaker 1: ever Matt Elam and him would be and they struggled

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Speaker 1: to dropt white In general throughout history were too surprises

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Speaker 1: to me. It's not like headline news. But Landry Jones

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Speaker 1: and Davis Webb were guys that the cogniscenti but everyone

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Speaker 1: thought that they would be a backup. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: saw some Steelers writers essentially call fans and you know,

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Speaker 1: idiots for suggesting that Landry Jones would be on on

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Speaker 1: on the waiver wire because that's Ben's guy, and Ben

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Speaker 1: wanted him to be. And it's like, yeah, Ben's not

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Speaker 1: making the personnel decisions. So but that and and Davis Webb,

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Speaker 1: a third round pick from a year ago for the Giant.

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Speaker 1: I think one was one Hard Knocks battle that we

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Speaker 1: were told would lead to one of two players getting

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Speaker 1: cut between Nate Orchard and Carl Nassim Nasa, star of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, both are gone along with Devin couljuiced all

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Speaker 1: three of them out. How dare you this is really

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Speaker 1: the first moved by this new Browns resime in John

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Speaker 1: Dorothy that I can't get behind, Like you can't just

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Speaker 1: put the juiced on your week one roster to make

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Speaker 1: people and the stuff. It was time to move on.

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Speaker 1: If you want to cut him in week two, well

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Speaker 1: if he gets his guaranteed money for the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think for the hard knocks story of all

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Speaker 1: of it all like you're not going anywhere Cleveland this year.

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Speaker 1: Let's just make get America behind you. And lastly, and

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Speaker 1: now another edition of keeping up, moll Barons are released

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Speaker 1: by the Bengals. Mark he won't he can't seem to stick. Well,

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Speaker 1: now he's been released as a wide receiver and also

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Speaker 1: a tight end where he was trying to make a

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Speaker 1: career shift in Cincinnati. Has he ever come close to

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Speaker 1: making a roster Well, don't tell Henry, he hasn't. And

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Speaker 1: that was another addition of keeping up. Alright, gentlemen, that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. Oh well, Antonio Gates still

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Speaker 1: in the league. Signed with the Chargers. How about that

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to go through a training camp a preseason.

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Speaker 1: I like that. You got the sense from the Chargers

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Speaker 1: just reading between the lines their front office, they were

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Speaker 1: almost like a little annoyed by how long Antonio Gates

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Speaker 1: would didn't want to come into camp Because I was

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Speaker 1: there at one of the camp practices in a in

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Speaker 1: a fan yelled out to their general manager time to

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Speaker 1: let's go, like where's Antonio? Bring Antonio back? And and

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Speaker 1: he made kind of a comment just like, yeah, we're waiting,

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Speaker 1: we're waiting to some some something to that effect. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Gates comes in there. Hunter Henry by the way,

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Speaker 1: not placed on i R. He's placed on the pup list.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, I don't know. Make that make of that

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Speaker 1: what you will. I don't know, but he's not on

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Speaker 1: the R. I are. Yeah, if they're in playoff contention,

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Speaker 1: he might be able to return in late December or January. Okay, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: here we are. We're still on the boat. Um, Anthony,

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Speaker 1: what did you think about the Khalil Mack tradell Mack

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Speaker 1: That's good analysis as well. I finally found something you

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Speaker 1: didn't know about. That's a drop. All right. So the

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Speaker 1: season is three days away. I mean to know what

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Speaker 1: it's Monday, rough, rough Monday. It's a sunny, beautiful day

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, so with week one upon us, we thought

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Speaker 1: hotel bar is great. And there's what's the name of

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Speaker 1: the game. It's not billiards, it's not pool. Snooker, which

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Speaker 1: fascinating to me. It's a The balls are small. History

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Speaker 1: of snooker, Please snooker, not snucker. It seems like I'm

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Speaker 1: very sorry, Anthony. It seems like a royal game. The

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Speaker 1: balls are a little smaller. Uh you call them soft.

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Speaker 1: They're very it's not a secret where we're going on

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Speaker 1: Friday right now. Very Another very British sport tap taping

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Speaker 1: at the cricket match. Who's who's the opponents England versus India. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the offense should be terrific. I think the division is deeper.

638
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the a f C NFC imbalance is

639
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: going to be nearly as bad as people think. There's

640
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: more bad teams in the a f C. But I

641
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: think there's enough good teams between the a f C North.

642
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars and the Titans and Texans are

643
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: all going to be very competitive that that you're gonna

644
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: need ten or eleven wins to make it. And there's

645
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: just something in the fact that this team has been better.

646
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: I've been together long enough, and they how been gotten

647
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: over the hump. And if you look at especially in

648
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins run, they've had a hard time kind of

649
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: avoiding those occasional nine and seven type years where they

650
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: disappoint in the defense, especially in the secondary. Has me worried,

651
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna they're gonna struggle to follow up.

652
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings and Jaguars are too too other

653
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: candidates for this, but it always happens that there asked

654
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: me one disappointing team, I'll go with the Steelers. Well,

655
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: while we're on the Steelers, maybe we should give out

656
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: the Big Ben Award to Big Ben. Big Ben upset

657
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: the monument here under construction, you know, a little bit dilapidated.

658
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Funny by the way, because you took my exact things

659
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: been under construction motif run with it. Yeah, but it's

660
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: gonna come back more beautiful than ever. And Ben can't

661
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: move the way he used to. He's not making magic

662
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: happen in the pocket the way he used to. There's

663
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: probably an injury at some point in October and November.

664
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to grind through. By January, it's gonna

665
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: come out looking as good as New Steelers deep playoff run.

666
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: The Big Ben Award Big Ben Big Ben related scenario

667
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: was under construction, nailed it just like you. But the

668
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: teams that are like, we're not able to see Big

669
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: Ben on this trip which is actually called what Anthony

670
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Tower I did not know that night. Well, no,

671
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: that that information is unknown in the States. Is the

672
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Bell big And don't Elizabeth Town. And don't you dare

673
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: call tower Bridge London Bridge like a lot of American monkeys.

674
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: We know, yeah, we know, we see you. It is

675
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: not London. The actual Bridge of Fame Bridge is Tower Bridge.

676
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Learned that from Anthony as well. All right, anyway, um,

677
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: we got some hot picks under that. By the way, today,

678
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: don't worry, like if you're worried that not enough of

679
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: this trip is being documented. We have a picture for

680
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: every moment. We're actually taking the pictures, right now wait,

681
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: let's stay on the Steelers actually before we get into

682
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: more Big Ben talk. So you think this is are

683
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: ready to come down a little bit? I do, Yeah.

684
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: I think as Anthony shows us some beautiful pictures under

685
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: Tower Bridge, Uh yeah, I do. I just I mean,

686
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: it's a it's just like a gut feeling that kind

687
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: of this team. Leavy On Bells last year and Tony right,

688
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of personalities and we've seen that and

689
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: I can just see like when the going gets tough

690
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: here there are always a team that has some sort

691
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: of drama during the year and maybe this is the

692
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: year they can. Let me ask you this, if this

693
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: plays out the way that you believe, you think Mike

694
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Tomlin will be out the door along with Levan Bell

695
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: after this season, that's a very different Steelers team going forward.

696
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you're essentially predicting doom for a team. The

697
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: team and if they went nine and seven with the

698
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Rooney's keep Mike Tomlin. I think they kind of would

699
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: because that's just what they do. It probably depends on

700
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: the level of struggle that that season looks like Greg

701
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: nine and a half wins over, I'm gonna go under Wow,

702
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go push. They are gonna

703
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: win nine and a half games. See that that would

704
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: actually change reality just in general, Dan, I get the

705
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: sense that you feel like we've suddenly turned to negative

706
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: on the Steelers. I think so that would be my

707
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: my feeling that the Steelers are ready to um. I

708
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: think they're kind of the window is maybe closing on

709
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: the Big Ben air, but I think maybe there's a

710
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: year left. I I see them as like a eleven

711
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: win team. Still, they're too talented to be like a

712
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: huge disappointment. I think I agree with you and they

713
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: and they're not the team they I hear you Greg

714
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: that they have let down season every once in a while,

715
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: but not with this, not with this cast right here,

716
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown, Levy, On Bell and in Ben Rolthier.

717
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: That's not been the case with these guys. So it

718
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: would be a first JUDU could be a star too.

719
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: They've got so much talent um. All right, I'm gonna

720
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: ditch my big Ben thing. I got a superlative for you,

721
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: unless you want to throw a second one in. I

722
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: haven't done one yet. Throw a first one in. I'm confused.

723
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: I feel like You've talked about five things at this point. Yeah,

724
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: well I have. There's a lot of talking going on

725
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: today's podcast. Uh, I'm gonna throw out. Actually, why don't

726
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: you go, Mark? You seem excited. I'll be happy to

727
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: we have it to. I mean, you know here, we're

728
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: here in England, in London, and a lot of people

729
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: talk about Prince Harry and Megan Markel as one there.

730
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, I'm trying to follow what you

731
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: guys said. I actually put that up on the fly,

732
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: but I will say this, the cutest couple in the

733
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: NFL this season is Jets general manager Mike mccagnen and

734
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks Sam Donald. In my book, I'll tell you why,

735
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: because I think this season is gonna look a lot different.

736
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: If we want to talk about the Pittsburgh's of the

737
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: world's and the changing of the guard. This crop of

738
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, for me, makes this entire campaign interesting. We

739
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: have new quarterbacks to look at. It's not the same

740
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: cast of characters, and Donald's the one guy that have

741
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: out of this whole group. This team believes it's fan base,

742
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: believes entire Jets fans am I wrong? They are in

743
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: love with Sam Donald, and I think no matter what

744
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: he even does this year, they just see him as

745
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: their savior, and he doesn't need to go out and

746
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: win ten games. It's about him growing as a quarterback,

747
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: and he essentially Lee has probably saved Mike mccagnet's job,

748
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: saved Mike mccagnet's jobs as a piercing screech, But if

749
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: he does not hit as a quarterback, it will cost

750
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: Mike mccagney's job. Isn't it a little surprising. I was

751
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: thinking about this the other day that in today's NFL,

752
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: in this quarterback rich draft, where there were five guys

753
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: taken in round one, only one starting Week one. Yeah,

754
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: that's just Arnald. That's sort of like a case by

755
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: case basis right, because Cleveland is adamant that Tyrod Taylor

756
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: is going to start. In most years, the team picking

757
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: number one overall isn't trading for a veteran and installing him.

758
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: And then the Cardinals had already gone out and gotten

759
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, who they brought in specifically to run that offense.

760
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like last year we were all worried that Tom

761
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: Savage started one. Ultimately, like I picked Baker Mayfield to

762
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: win Rookie of the Year on our predictions for the season,

763
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know how that's gonna happen.

764
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm just figuring at some whether it's injury, or the

765
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: bounds are losing, or they just want him in there,

766
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: he'll find a way into the starting lineup by week

767
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: five or six. And that to me is Kie of

768
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: the Year. You have to be in there in the

769
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: in the first four or five games, ladies, Yeah you could.

770
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: You could start ten. If you started ten games and

771
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: you look great, you can win Rickie the Year, Vince

772
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Young did it? Sam Donald to win because I think

773
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: barring total disaster injury, they're gonna keep him in there

774
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: for sixteen games, no matter what it looks like they

775
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: have to write. They cannot yank him due to tough weather.

776
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: When in the week is a long time during an

777
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: NFL season. It's a soap opera that that narrative can

778
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: change so much over one or two bad games by

779
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: tyrod Well exactly what tyro tylor with Donald. I think

780
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: they can't. They can't if he obviously if he was hurt,

781
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: but be if he was so lost that they felt

782
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: like they needed to get him out of the out

783
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: of the heat. But I don't. Everything that I've seen

784
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: from him thus far tells me that he might not

785
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: set the world on fire immediately. But I think he's

786
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: going to be steady. I think I really have a

787
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: very good feeling about and I think West. We talked

788
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: about it at the airport bar Um before we got

789
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: on the plane. Yes, yes, this is like a great

790
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: time to be a jet span in terms of the

791
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: optimism angle, like it's a lot to be excited about.

792
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the last December. There's nothing more

793
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: uplifting in sports than having a young savior with a

794
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: world of possibilities in the future. You have no idea

795
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: what Sam Donald's career could look like, but you can

796
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: sit and dream about a hall of fame and you know,

797
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: back to the Promised Land, that this is all within

798
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. And let's say this boat, let's

799
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: say we were to be stuck here for fifteen years

800
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: cannot get off. Would you rather be with Megan Market

801
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: or Sam Donald? Who is your who would who would

802
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: you like to be coupled with the relationship with my

803
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: wife over? Well, she's not here, She's in America. She

804
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: would be attending to your children in other countries. If

805
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Emily was cool with it, it would probably Meg, I

806
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: would have to say, just like in terms of it's

807
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: actually a kind for your you wouldn't be pulling Sam

808
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: Donald out of a Jets career. Also, I don't think

809
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: people love Sam Donald for his conversation, you know, um,

810
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: all right, I'm finally I'm ready now. You know I've

811
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: gone back and forth about whether you make my Big

812
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Ben analogy. You can do a couple, but I will

813
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: do with the Big Ben analogy. Under construction, all right,

814
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: So we don't get to see we don't get to

815
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: see the Great Tower, the Elizabeth Tower, um, because it's

816
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: covered in scaffolding and it's been that way for a

817
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: while now and will be for how much longer today?

818
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Three years? Three years, but it's a British workman, so

819
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: it could be longer. That was a shot. So you

820
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: look at teams that are have been under construction to

821
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: see that for the last year, a couple of years.

822
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: That now people are starting to get excited, like this

823
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: is the year. What to you, gentlemen? And I'll give

824
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: my choice first, and then I want to hear what

825
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: you guys think. Which team that's been under construction, UH

826
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: is actually not ready and it should be Gotta they

827
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: should be under They're going to be under construction for

828
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: another year. Even if people are saying they're ready to

829
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: land now, I will throw out the Chiefs or maybe

830
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: a little unconventional because they've been a contender. But people

831
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: are saying they're ready now to kind of take the

832
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: next step as an organization. And I think that right

833
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: now with Mahomes not as concerned about him, but with

834
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: the defense, which was terrible last year, we're not We

835
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: haven't gotten any good signs in the preseason that it's better.

836
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: They would be my team that is not ready. Uh.

837
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Just like Big Ben wasn't ready for our visit here,

838
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: UH is not ready for um super Bowl contention status

839
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen. I went for you, and only

840
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: because not not that I believe this room or this

841
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: vote thinks that thinks this way. So dismissive of the vote.

842
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: We're flying again, by the way, we're often running the union.

843
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Jack's you know, flying the breeze up there. It's a

844
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. How about the the people that want to

845
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: put the New York Giants back in the playoffs. I

846
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: feel like I see this all the time on Twitter,

847
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: and to me, they are under construction and I think

848
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: that there's some enticing pieces in place on offense. Don't

849
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: love the defense. You have issues. Potentially a quarterback, if

850
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, Eli Manning could fall apart at any moment,

851
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: no backups. So it's just that let's hold off a

852
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: little bit because I think that there are a couple

853
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: of players away before they're going to challenge in a

854
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: very tough NFC. So you're out on I'm not out

855
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: on Eli in the way that West and Greg historically

856
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: are out because I think that he's probably at some

857
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: point and to find a way to win one more

858
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl over the Patriots and we'll be there to

859
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: watch it. But but yes, I don't think they're playoffs.

860
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: I think James Betcher, their coordinator, was kind of a

861
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: sneaky big pickup, and they do have players on that side.

862
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: It's a little like they have stars and then they

863
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: have big drop offs. But they're dangerous. I feel like

864
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: they're that any team in that division could make the playoffs.

865
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: That wouldn't shock me. The Giants were my choice to

866
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Are good. Um, the Niners, Yeah, Niners are.

867
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the Buccaneers because they do. They

868
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: have talent. They've got talent at the skill positions on offense,

869
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: They've got a really interesting front seven now, and I

870
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: don't trust anything about the quarterback coach dynamic. I would

871
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: go at the Niners because of the defense and because

872
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: it almost came, not because it came too easily last year,

873
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: just because I I think the and because the Giants

874
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: are gonna steal their wild card spot and you're right,

875
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: and the problems that they've had over the last few years.

876
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: Kyle Saanahan and Garoppolo fix like a lot of them,

877
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: but they don't fix the whole team. Um, I guess

878
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: I'll throw out my other one, the the Oasis v.

879
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Blur Nasty brit Pop feud of the mid nineties award.

880
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: Uh that could go to Oakland Raider fans and this

881
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: current Raiders regime. And it's something to keep an eye

882
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: on how this, how this can turn if this gets ugly,

883
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: because you can from an organizational standpoint, even though I disagree,

884
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: and I think you guys all agree that or all

885
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: disagree with their decision to not keep Khalil Mack, who's

886
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: like a once in a generation talent and at a

887
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: position where it's almost impossible to get a guy at

888
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: that level. Um, but I just think that if they

889
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: get off to a slow start, if they get off

890
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: to a slow start, the fans are gonna turn on

891
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: that team and on that coach and Organizationally, Yes, you

892
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: have two first round picks coming, that doesn't do anything

893
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: for these people in Oakland who kind of got banged

894
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: a little bit here and and I could see them

895
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: really hand, uh, you know, dishing out some vitriol. Uh,

896
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: if this team gets off to a slow start and

897
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: making it a really ugly season. The thing I never

898
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: bought to begin with was that, Hey, let's give these

899
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: Oakland fans two really nice seasons before, Hey, we just

900
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: moved your team to Las Vegas. But there'll be no

901
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: hard feelings. This is a different type of fan base

902
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: than the thirty one other in the league because every

903
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: sports are you go to hold on every sports part

904
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: you go to, there are Raiders fans, and there they

905
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: are one of the most loyal groups around. This feels

906
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: incredibly toxic from where we were six months ago when

907
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: it was the John Gruden press conference with two d

908
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: and fifty reporters and they're all hands on deck in

909
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: our newsroom. This is what we've been waiting for since

910
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: the late nineties. It couldn't You could never have imagined

911
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: how poorly it has gone. Right now, Well, you gotta

912
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: do is win Week one against the Rams and the

913
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: one thing and then everyone that's all they have to

914
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: do pretty much, because I don't know about that. They're

915
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna is the previous week for these fans in general, Like,

916
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: if you can win games, as my point, then they

917
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: won't care my my thing. I just say about Raiders,

918
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: and I've never seen them turn against the team. They

919
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: were mediocre and terrible for a year after year, and

920
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: they were so loyal and they would just fight against

921
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: everyone else. So my fight would be Raiders versus US,

922
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Raiders fans versus. But there's the league. And because they

923
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: never they never took the team and moved to Vegas before,

924
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: a part of that that's you can't you can't even

925
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: compare that. And then everybody's playing and nice, like Mark

926
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: said this idea that for two years it's gonna be fine.

927
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's getting all that upset and it seemed

928
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: like that. And now this trade comes and it's a reminder,

929
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: why am I rooting for this team that's picking up

930
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: and moving to a different city. It's a reminder to

931
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: all those fans is it worth it? I would say,

932
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: just they're not logical like you see the Chargers Raiders game,

933
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: or even the Raiders when they were in the preseason

934
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: and l A and they're all there in l A

935
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: like the Raiders fans are just like they're a different breed.

936
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I kind of give them credit for that because they

937
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: I agree in the sense that you could never have

938
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: tried to pull this move off with any other fan base.

939
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: And they see they've seemed fine with They're telling Oakland fans,

940
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: though we're playing the long game, we care about being

941
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: successful in that brand new stadium in Las Vegas. We

942
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: don't care about you, but we're still gonna play eight

943
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: home games a year in front of you. That's what

944
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: I was specifically setting up as the Raiders fans that

945
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: are in that area of the country. It's like when

946
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: they made the announcement to go to Vegas, it was

947
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: like opening up a wound for that team. And now

948
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: this the Mac moves just like throwing salt and that

949
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: will of being like, oh, do you want to root

950
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: for us? Now? You still want to root for us,

951
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Oakland fans, because we're basically daring you to leave us

952
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: at this point. That's how it came off to me.

953
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering how they've got one foot out the

954
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: door now. That's what it would seem like if I'm

955
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: if I'm in Oakland, if I'm in that area, the

956
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: Bay Area. I'm a Raiders fan for a long time.

957
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: It feels like the team has one foot out the

958
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: door and has already headed Twitter. Is any indication they

959
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: are pissed right now? Should be pissed? Um? Anybody have

960
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: any other ones before we did? I did one and

961
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was perfect and I didn't really need

962
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: to come up to the second. But yeah, let's go

963
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: back to the Chiefs for this. Uh, Hugh Grant biggest,

964
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: biggest flirt award. Chiefs are out there flirt. I feel

965
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: bad for the UK fans is like, this is all

966
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: you guys know about the UK. It's twice and Hugh

967
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Grant and Chief's flirting with excitement and uh, the notion

968
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: of unlimited possibilities all year long and then Patrick Mahomes rawness,

969
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: his his turnovers, his up and down season is going

970
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: to be the biggest flirt that you think you're ready

971
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: to compete, but you're not yet ready. Like Hugh Grant.

972
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has kind of an annoying voice, has a

973
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: great voice. I was always nervous. Yeah, he does play

974
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: the nervous. I mean he's done well with that act.

975
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: I think though that. Uh As Tim Posey shows me

976
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: some awards, she wants me to read I'm not reading

977
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: your material. You want to say, you can say it

978
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes. Give me a break. Yeah,

979
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: why not? I want I'd be happy. I'd be happy

980
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: to Hermes Mahomes definitely not angry. Just give you her grief.

981
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes I feel more has more like potential to make

982
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: insane plays than almost anyone that's entered the league since Vick,

983
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: like like serious made me Michael Vick and Aaron Rodgers

984
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: as first year starters who are just going to dominate

985
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: like highlights. You know on the weekend, you want to

986
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: let's have you read it. I want you to read

987
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: it best to get through that point. I don't want

988
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: to anymore. He it was the Queen, the Queen Elizabeth

989
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: old af Award, and uh, I'll give that too. I

990
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: guess Adam vin Terry would have to get it. You know.

991
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: It's like, how about Tom Brady. That's what I wrote,

992
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: but you had to Tom Brady, Queen Elizabeth, he's old

993
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: but respected. It's a great award. Eric, it's a great award.

994
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: He barely like Queen Elizabeth respected? Yes or no, of course,

995
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: there you go. I think he's gonna put otherwise on

996
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: a public show. It was just that was a test

997
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: of your allegiance to your name. There's a lot of

998
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: candidates for a lot of people old a f in

999
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: the NFL. Drew Brees would be another. I'll throw out

1000
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: one one here. I just thinking, how about the like Bandwagon,

1001
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna claim this team after all award? It's it's

1002
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: after Andy Murray. How this country really tried to claim

1003
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: the Scotsman, even though they had a mixed feeling about

1004
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: him for a while. But once you start with some

1005
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: esoteric tennis talk, I mean that esoteric. He's a pretty

1006
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: big sports start. So they claimed them even though he's, uh,

1007
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: he's Scottish. How about Los Angeles claiming the Chargers when

1008
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: they get the number one seed in the a f

1009
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: C and people just start jumping the board and be like,

1010
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: all right, let's just do it. This is the most

1011
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: funny that team ever. Let's just jump on board. And

1012
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: how about Los Angeles being the center of the pro

1013
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: football universe with two of the best teams in the league.

1014
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: I think would be a major upset if the Chargers

1015
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: become a big thing in Los Angeles that leads to

1016
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: massive tickets, bail the Chargers out of a very uncomfortable

1017
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: situation that they chose to put themselves in, by the way,

1018
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: which is being playing in a city that doesn't necessarily

1019
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: want them, is to win. And if they put together

1020
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: like a twelve and four, the city will definitely there

1021
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: there will be a bandwagon building. I don't know, but

1022
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: it weren't. By the way, they weren't bad last year. No, no,

1023
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: but I don't think they started owing four. I mean,

1024
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: that's a tough way to finish down ten years now.

1025
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if Chargers fever is gonna

1026
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: grip this town. I don't know. I think that the

1027
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: record is the reason they struggled last year in this town,

1028
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: But I think already know. Unforced certainly didn't didn't help. No,

1029
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: it didn't help in the way that they did it.

1030
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: I do think, though maybe not even so much the

1031
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: local fans in l A catching a board. But if

1032
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: you have a situation where the Rams and the Chargers

1033
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: are both teams that are getting buys, are competing for buys,

1034
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of like last and you

1035
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: know a lot of like kind of combining them together

1036
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: in terms of national stories that like, you know, the

1037
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: NFL wasn't even there a few years ago. Now it's

1038
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: the center of the you know when when the Rams

1039
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: and Raiders were both here. Tim Brown, when he went

1040
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, talked about returning to kickoff

1041
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: in his rookie season in the Colosseum, getting to the

1042
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: end zone and having it be completely empty. Los Angeles

1043
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: is not a two football team town. It absolutely is not.

1044
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: Um Harry Styles, um flirt Award. Yeah, Harry Style Teas Award.

1045
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: And now we're just he goes to the Chargers, who's

1046
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: Harry Style. You guys are gonna get You're gonna you

1047
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: don't know, Harry Styles. No, it sounds like I'm made

1048
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: up and you know how the four of us were

1049
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: doing a photo shoot out there. Well, it's it's it's

1050
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: not unlike One Direction doing a photo shoot when they

1051
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: were when they were launching. Do you know who One

1052
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: Direction is? Sounds like a British boy band there, he's

1053
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: like the star they're not. It doesn't matter. The Chargers.

1054
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: The Chargers are a tease. You're gonna get sucked in,

1055
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: Greg and then they're gonna drop another nine and seven

1056
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: on your head and you're gonna be mad. It's it's

1057
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders who should have moved to Los Angeles. Can't

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Speaker 1: we agree with that? I mean, this, this whole Chargers

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Speaker 1: to l a thing just simply does not make sense.

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Speaker 1: I just think we should have Anthony on one more time. Anthony,

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Speaker 1: say goodbye Anthony, Actually Anthony, thank you Anthony and the

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Speaker 1: Johnson being a great photographer, a friendly bloke and uh

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Speaker 1: just highly informational. Well, thank you very much for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. I love bat Man. All right, next

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Speaker 1: time you hear from us, uh we it will be Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: probably right Erica, but um Wednesdays when you'll hear the show.

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Speaker 1: But Tuesday night at the Curtain Club in London, we

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Speaker 1: will do our live show. We're very excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Next time you hear from us. Uh. And then just

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Speaker 1: giving you a schedule a week on Friday, you'll get

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Speaker 1: our week one preview and Thursday night football season kickoff recap. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of good stuff come in your way. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Anything else, forget anything? All right? The boat

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Speaker 1: is docking. I don't know if that means we can

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Speaker 1: get off. No, we're not near where we were, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't park here. It doesn't matter. All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go, Let's get out of here. This is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hanson's signing off for The Quiet Storm of mail Man,

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Speaker 1: The Old Bossna Lose, Cannon and Anthony on the boat.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we're in London Tuesday night. See