1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, April 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osan plenty to get 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: to shot con talks. The franchise is front end center 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: with the number one overall pick in tomorrow's first round 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. Trevor Lawrence is cashing in already 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: or cryptoing in one or the other or both in fact, 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: final draft prep in Cleveland, and a couple of social 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: media topics today. Bucky, here we go. It's finally one 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: day away. We keep saying this every time. That is 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: finally two weeks away. It's finally a week away. It's 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: finally five. It's tomorrow. Yeah, most important draft in Jaguars 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: history outside of the first expansion draft, Like this is 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: it um, This is a chance to completely reset and 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: remake the franchise. Everyone will focus on the number one pick, 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: and that's presumably going to be trouble Lawrence, but really 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: it's the other picks and what Trent Balki and Urban 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Meyer elect to do as they look man completely rebuild 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: this franchise. I'm really excited. I don't know what's going 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: to happen, but I can't wait to see whether new one, 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: improved Jaguars look like I think the storyline as we've 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: built up to this, built up to this, built up this, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: now we're what thirty two hours away or whatever it is, 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: it feels to me like the storyline that's developing for 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: the Jaguars the big thing you don't know do they 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: believe Obviously Lawrence is there and he's gonna be the story, 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: but the franchise building story, if you will, or the 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: or the bones of it is, do they feel like 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: they need to use those other nine picks to add 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of players to this or do they feel like, hey, 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: we need to use and get up and maximize those 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: other four And when I say four, I mean they 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: have five in the top six. Do they want to 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: use some of their capital, maybe even next year's capital, 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: and try to improve those They're just gonna emphasize those 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: five or is this a big picture They're gonna have 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: six picts or ten? You know they have six really 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: cool toys or a bunch of toys under the tree, 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: so to speak and I don't really know the answer 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: to that. I think it's to be fascinating. That is 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: funny because jo I think I think you bring up 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: something that we talked about on the last pot where 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: how does Irvin meyer like view of the team building process? 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Would he rather have a few marquee items or does 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: he want to go shop at the bargain basement? Ben, 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: I think my contention was a being at Florida and 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Ohio state. He ain't doing a whole lot of bargain shopping. 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: He used to get those expensive suits off direct and 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: making sure that their tailored and customized to what he 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: wants wants. And with Valky history, as I think you 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: tweeted out JP, Trent doesn't really sit and wait for 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: guys to come to him. They're going to go and 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: get players. I believe we're going to see a very 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: aggressive team building approach from the Jaguars over draft weekend. 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I went through the the San Francisco forty Niners history 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: with Balky there in control of those drafts. He was 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: in control of twenty two trades during the draft days themselves. 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't include the days leading up to the draft. 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: There were a couple others. Of those two twenty two 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: alone in seven years, the Jags as an organization ever 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: have had thirty three of those, so seven years of work. 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: We'll see if if that works out. And we heard 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: urban Meyer last week, of course, trying to learn the 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: meaning of value in the NFL and the balance of that. 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: The next three days will be fascinating, of course. Subscribed 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. You probably already are 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, of course, but tell somebody 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: else and give us five stars and a comment. Well, 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: the franchise is front and center this week, and you know, 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I guess personally I saw it coming. You know, the 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: headlines and the reporters around and NFL networks here and 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: all these folks are gonna be coming in on Thursday 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: to cover this thing. But now it's here, It's like, okay, 76 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: this is It's huge. I mean, this is playoff level 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: almost type coverage around here, because it's the number one 78 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: pick and shot. CON's out in the media now. He's 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: doing New York Times, he's doing Monday Morning Quarterback, he's 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: doing John Oshan and and Beat writers and everything Johnny, 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh you got him earlier this week and explaining his 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: history with Urban and his excitement for the pick and 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: the organization moving ahead, and it just feels like it's 84 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: finally come do There's been a lot of work behind 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: the scenes to get to this point, a lot of 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: bad football to get to this point. To all that combined, John, 87 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: it feels like Mr Conas is ready to get this 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: thing going. They're not our little jag Wars anymore. J 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: They belong to the world. It's time to let the 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: little birdie fly. There's certainly an element of that, and 91 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: it's certainly cool. And uh, there's this double story that 92 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: is great for the media coming in. You've got the 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence story. So if you're within the old days 94 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: where you're going to your to your editors trying to 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: pitch the story, Hey, I need to go here to 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: do this story, Well, what else can you get? Well, 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I get you an Urban ire story too. So there's 98 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: this double story, more meat on the bone if you will. 99 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: I think we talked about on this podcast. It's an 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: incredible thing. It's certainly merited, and I think what people 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: are going to start to grasp here the storyline this weekend. 102 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: When Trevor Lawrence gets here, You're gonna have a guy 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: who never lost a regular season college football game coupled 104 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: with a coach who just about never lost one. It 105 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: might be the winningest combination ever to start out. I 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: think Bucky had made this point a couple of weeks ago. 107 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: How that will change the mood of the building, change 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: the course of the building, and how they'll react to 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: that once this thing gets rolling, and how to really 110 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: play out. You know, I think it is the perfect 111 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: mix because the two most important people in the organization 112 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: outside of the owner and maybe the president, will be 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: the head coach and the quarterback, the franchise quarterback. So 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: as we assume that Trevor Lawrence is going to be 115 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: the guy with Coach Meyer, you have like personalities. And 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: the thing about the quarterback is the quarterback is the 117 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: extension of the coach on the field. And when you 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: hear the things that Coach Meyer talks about in terms 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: of competitiveness and the culture and effort and toughness and 120 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: all of those things and winning, and then you see 121 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence embodies. Man is really a perfect marriage 122 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: because in Trevor Lawrence. What we're talking about not someone 123 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: that just went in college. He went in high school. 124 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: And there's a thing Winners win, and when you want 125 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: to change the franchise, you have to collect enough winners 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: in the locker room that winning becomes the expectation. So 127 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I not only expect Trevor Lawrence to be the number 128 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: one overall pick, I would think that the majority of 129 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: the player that we see coming in in the draft 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: are guys that come from winning programs, that understand how 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: to win. So the sale from coach Meyer when he's 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: in the front of the room, it isn't a difficult one. 133 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: It's the same message that these guys have heard for 134 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: most of their high school and collegiate career. We heard 135 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, Bucky on the Trevor Lawrence 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: three sixty on the Move of the six podcast you 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah put together over the last really months, 138 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean working on that for a long time, but 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: that was a thing. He's always been the top guy 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: wherever he's been, and everybody that was on that podcast 141 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: really supported, uh that theory there, and and it's not theory, 142 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: it's reality. He has been a winner and hopefully that 143 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: will continue moving ahead. But John, it's safe to say 144 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Shot Khan is I don't want to now basking in 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: the glow is probably the wrong terminology here, but this 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: is a This is a big deal for the organization 147 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: and from Mr Khan as an owner. Well, look, owning 148 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: an NFL team is supposed to be more fun than 149 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: it's been for him in the last ten years, right, 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not minimized. I know fans will 151 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: hear that and say, well, it's it's his responsibility, but 152 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Shod gets that. Shot gets that the buck stops with him. 153 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: It's also supposed to be more fun, and I think 154 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: it's okay for him to have fun with this. I 155 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: think they're all having a little bit of fun right now, 156 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: not publicly saying who the pick is because everybody sort 157 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: of gets it. But he's basking in the globe. But 158 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to misrepresent the basking in the globe 159 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: part of the conversation I had with him early Tuesday, 160 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: along with four or five other beat writers. It's basking 161 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: in the globe, but it's it's very much mixed in 162 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: with the reality of look, just getting the number one 163 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: pick doesn't guarantee anything. He made the point of the 164 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: start of the conference call. You know, two or three 165 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: years ago, everybody was picking the Jaguars to go to 166 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, have to beat the Patriots in in 167 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: September two. He understands the height, whether it be by 168 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: the draft, whether it be that doesn't matter anymore. He's 169 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: in his tenth year owning it. He gets a lot 170 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: of He's not a rookie at this anymore. He also 171 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: grasps what an unbelievable moment this is. And I go back. 172 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: I didn't cover the Colts in when they started with 173 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Gopoli and Jim More, but there was a 174 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: restart where they brought in Peyton Manning, they brought in 175 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: uh Tom Moore, the opposite coordinator, running a new coach, 176 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: new president, and they had the number one pick, and 177 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: they had a generational number one pick. Those situations don't 178 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: happen very often because the generational guy doesn't come along 179 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: very often. Jaguars also happened to have compiled that with 180 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: a generational college coach, almost a generational amount of cap space. 181 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: And I'm overplaying the analogy here, but this is really 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: unusual and shod Gets. You know, he hasn't said this, 183 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: but I think he's well aware this is the only 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: chance like this he's going to get as an NFL 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: owner in his life. So he's very much aware of 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: the moment, but yet also understands the perspective of the moment. Yeah, 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: I think that that is really really key because what 188 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: happens is as more eyes are drawing to Jacksonville with 189 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and with coach because let's be honest, the 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: people are fascinated by how is the college coach going 191 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: to make his way in the league, the organization will 192 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: feel the pressure to step up and kind of raise 193 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: the bar. And so as coach Meyer is pushing internally, hey, 194 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: we've got to raise the standard. We need to have 195 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: the best, that's the best that there are a lot 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: of people that are looking to see will this be 197 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: the same old Jags or is this really a new era? 198 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: And so it's an exciting time and so if Shakom 199 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: really wants to elevate the franchise, man, it is all 200 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: about being in lost up with the head coach, the 201 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: general manager and the expectations that now would accompany the 202 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars when they show up, said a couple of interesting 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: things JP that I don't overlook in this podcast. He 204 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: went out of his way. And you've interviewed Shot a lot, 205 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: so you sort of get how he works in an interview. 206 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: He didn't live, you know, and he doesn't volunteer things. 207 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: When he speaks, it's it's pretty transparent. He went out 208 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: of his way to say that Balky and Meyer didn't 209 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: start out this process locked in on one quarter back. Yeah. 210 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Now people can scoff at that, Well, it was obviously 211 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna be Trevor Lawrence, which I believe it was always 212 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: gonna end up being Trevor Lawrence. But when I was 213 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: a way to say, they the due diligence to make 214 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: sure whatever was absolutely done. He also said he's been 215 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: on a couple of zoom calls with quarterbacks, meaning Shot 216 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: has and was very specific about he understands the importance 217 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: of the quarterback position. Uh. He said, I was on 218 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: the phone call, I was on the calls with the 219 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: usual suspects. But he also said he was involved with 220 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: those because he's learned over ten years that's the position 221 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: you can't screw up, and it it sort of speaks 222 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: to the bigness of this moment and a pretty couple 223 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: of obvious things, but not stuff that I had heard 224 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Shot talk about. Yet good stuff there. Check out the 225 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: articles on jaguars dot com with Jaguars owner Shot con 226 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the NFL Draft of course on Thursday night 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: as the travel camp and do Ball Draft twenty one. 228 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: And as we record this podcast, I'm looking out over 229 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: t i A Bank Field from the press box and 230 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: they got the stage set up on about the ten 231 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: yard line to my left and then socially distant boxes 232 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: on the field which will be open. And then the 233 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: seats around the seating bowl in the south end zone 234 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: and both sides of the stadium in the lower bowl 235 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: will be open. So expecting over six thousand here on 236 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night for the opening round and it should be 237 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: a fun show throughout Ashland. Sulladon will lead the way 238 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: on the stage. Some player guests Urban Meyer schedule to 239 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: make an appearance out on the stage as well. So well, 240 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: tickets are sold out so you can't register anywhere, but 241 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: if you're coming, congratulations, it's gonna be a fun one 242 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: tomorrow night here at the bag. And how many of 243 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: these do you get? JP? How many. You go to 244 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: the draft party. Yeah, right, yes, I'm not going to 245 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: draft party. I've got to work the draft party. So 246 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: I've got more of those in the last two weeks. 247 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: Hey boy, I see at the draft party. Well you'll see. 248 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not to be thrown back. But he's ill. 249 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: And nobody, nobody ever asked you. Hey, you going to 250 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: Saturday to cover those Well yeah, we'll be there all 251 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: day Saturday too, the seventh rounder from Utah and you 252 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: gotta grind out that story. Oh that's what it's about, Bucky. 253 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, John, that's right. We gotta have 254 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: all those picks so you can stay around. So you 255 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: stay around and finish it up. Bitter man, those deep 256 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: those deep dives. John is a bitter man. He said 257 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: it himself. Trevor Lawrence most likely could be the number 258 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: one overall pick. He's already making money though apparently, you know, 259 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: there's some pundits and folks outside the marketplace, fans on 260 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Twitter and all this of other teams. Oh he's get toll. 261 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'll let you do that, 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: saying he's going to Jacksonville. He won't get the big 263 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: endorsement deal that he would have got in New York 264 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: or any of these other big mark at teams and 265 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: all that. Well, he assigned with Adidas. Okay, he assigned 266 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: with Gatorade, the first quarterback to do so. I think 267 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,359 Speaker 1: since Cam Newton back in a while ago, Bows Headphones 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: and then a crypto investment at Blockfolio is paying him 269 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: in cryptocurrency apparently according to a story, and the list 270 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: is I think only just beginning. So you know maybe 271 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: a ninety five or nineteen seventy that was a real 272 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: thing marketplace. You know, there wasn't a big national there's 273 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: no Internet, you know a lot of those days. Well, 274 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: now you can follow Lawrence and the Jaguars from literally 275 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world in the modern digital era. So 276 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: endorsement deals will come if you're marketable. Doesn't really matter 277 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: where you are, Bucket, it feels like to me, No, 278 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you are. It also doesn't matter 279 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: when you come from a place where you bring people 280 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: with you. Meaning he's been on a big platform. He 281 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: was a guy that was hailed and celebrated a SQB 282 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: once in high school. He goes and was the national 283 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: title at CLIPS and so he's a brand name by himself, 284 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: and so he brings that in so as he gets 285 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: more recognition here to bring more recognition to the Jaguars. 286 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: So I think this is really a great thing. But 287 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at the mural that they have 288 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: defeat the know the noise ruled the quiet. Have you 289 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: seen that with Trevor oh buffed out? I wonder if 290 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: his brother did the artistry on that. But it's not 291 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: It's a nice little thing. He has Cartersville, Cartersville, right, 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: it might be on the corner of Cartersville, like the hometown. 293 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Maybe let's shout out for him those bowl headsphone? I 294 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: might have to, might have a m Trevor, can you 295 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: some some headphones? You know, some different Anybody who thought 296 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: this kid wasn't going to be marketable because he came 297 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville are idiots. They have no idea what the 298 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: league's about. They have no idea what social media it's about, 299 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: and any idea what this kid was about. He's as 300 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: marketable and a lot of it's because of the hair, 301 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, I mean people love it, people love the personality. 302 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: He's recognizable, brandable. If you really thought that Gatorade was 303 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna say now, you know, we'd like you better if 304 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: you if you were in New York. Again, if you 305 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: alluded to it, it's not like nineteen where the guys 306 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: were walking out of their office on Madison Avenue and going, Okay, 307 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: we gotta get somebody local in here. You know, Twitter 308 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: has completely changed and Facebook's movie changed it all that 309 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: he was obviously going to be marketable. Now if he 310 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: had been a lesser type player, perhaps that kind of 311 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: thing might have something to do with it. If he's 312 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: talking about getting local endorsements, then of course in New 313 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: York's got more money than Jackson. But if you're talking national, 314 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: the number one overall picked with this kind of image 315 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: was always going to be able to get endorsements. It 316 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: works quarterback playing well, marketable everything on and off the field, 317 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: and here we go. He's off and running, making that 318 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: cash and crypto already, And those who placed deposits for 319 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: new season tickets, well, the seats selection process is now underway. 320 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Check your email, visit Jaguars dot com or called nine 321 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: oh four six three three two thousand. There are a 322 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: team of representatives ready to help you get back in 323 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: the bank in one Also, you might get a phone 324 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: call from one of the three people on this podcast, 325 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: and the guy that's talking right now, there was a 326 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: call that went out earlier this week to get you 327 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: to look out for that email, the phone call and 328 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: all the rest. So we hope to see you here 329 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: very soon now. Of course, the draft is in Cleveland, 330 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: Ohio this year, on the banks of Lake here, right 331 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: by the Football Stadium and the Rock and Roll Hall 332 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: of Fame, but not a huge contingent of players attending 333 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: this year. Thirteen I believe Bucky in person this year. 334 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: You know, in the past, obviously it's been thirty to 335 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: forty depending on who wants to go. That's the post 336 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: COVID kind of kind of deal right now. But thirteen 337 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: in person, a bunch of other guys online. It sounds like, 338 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's funny because like to have 339 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: everything in person. We heard all the stuff about the 340 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: commissioner being able to either his bump, hug or whatever 341 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: it is that he likes to do with the prospects 342 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: he wants. They hear the name call, they walk across 343 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: the stage like that. Stuff is cool. Having reporters and 344 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: people on the ground and having a little bit of 345 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: energy in the statum will be exciting, and so I'm 346 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: excited that some of these kids would get an opportunity 347 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: to kind of live out their dreams as they saw 348 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and they saw it as they envisioned it. I think 349 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: it's a really cool deal. And I think even though 350 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: the I guess the old guy on the lawn in 351 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: me is like, oh my god, can we get through 352 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: the weekend and just kind of have to be done, 353 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: sometimes we do need to pause and thing like, hey, 354 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool that guys will hear their names called, 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: and even those guys that don't hear their names called 356 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: the time Freezing contract, they have a chance to do 357 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: things that they've always dreamed about. Some of the good moments. 358 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what year were you drafted? Bucky? 359 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Remind me, so, would you have ever like bro hugged 360 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: tag Leaboo? Was that? Would that ever have been? I 361 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: know you probably weren't the draft, but you know, well, 362 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: I mean I would have been really I was really excited. 363 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I would have been really excited. I would have jumped 364 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: in his arms if he wanted me to, like everything. 365 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: The main thing, I just would have wanted the hat 366 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: and and all that. Can I get the hat and 367 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: the complementary jersey. UM kind of have the picture with UM. 368 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: It's a very stressful time, Like it's a very stressful day. 369 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: It's a stressful day because back then, God, I think 370 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: you did the first three rounds on the first day, 371 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: in rounds four through seven to second day, and so JP, 372 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: I want to say the draft started at three three thirty. 373 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: I didn't get a phone call to after ten man. 374 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: By that time, I was, I was, I was wallowing 375 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: into my sorrows about sliding down the pole and all 376 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: this other stuff, and am I ever gonna get people? 377 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: Anybody ever liked me? All of that? So it's a 378 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: stressful day, Mandy, everybody. I've sat in enough of those 379 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: because I was with a newspaper. They were signed like 380 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: a local guy. You know, you go and sit at 381 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: their house, sort of wait for them with them. I've 382 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: sat through some experiences where you know, there was one 383 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: year I went. I won't name the player, but I 384 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: went and they didn't get picked on the first day 385 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: to go back the next day and yeah, you're sitting 386 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: there and the and the sandwiches just about gone. The 387 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: potato salad is getting moldy on the end, and it's 388 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's uh. It does make you appreciate as 389 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: a journalist. As a fan, I'd always watched the draft 390 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: as a fan. You're watching two hundred and seventy guys 391 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: whatever the number is, it gets drafted, and you think 392 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: of it as this broad picture. When you're sitting there 393 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: with the kid who pick after pick after pix there 394 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: you realize that for that kid, there's only one story, 395 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's a tough story. When that happens and they 396 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: start going down, you know, it's uh, it's a tough 397 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: situation to be around, moving and dying. And what I 398 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: tell these guys because guys get mad about me about 399 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: mock drafts or whatever, and I say, hey, man, don't 400 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: hate me. I understand it. But look, this is a 401 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: soap opera. We're real character and so the mod draft 402 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: it is a soap proper that we kind of used 403 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: to have storylines. Unfortunately, you guys are real characters, and 404 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: on draft day, all of that stuff that you've heard 405 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: for the month leading up to it, you've tended to believe. 406 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: But some of that stuff, I hate to tell you 407 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: is either clickbait or narratives that we like to generate, 408 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: so we have talking points and so you have to 409 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: kind of ignore the noise. So I do feel bad 410 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: for some of the players that would be affected by 411 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: those things that don't come to fruition. But at the 412 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: end of the day, if you have an opportunity to 413 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: go to the league, you should be able to celebrate it. 414 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast, A p Shadrick ton Osher, 415 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and one final note on the draft in Cleveland. 416 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Round to the Legends. NFL legends from each team will 417 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: announce the pick this year. Kevin Hardy will announce the 418 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars draft selection in the second round or selections. There 419 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: are two of them, at least for now, first round 420 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: pick of course, second overall out of Illinois lineback with 421 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: the Jags. One first team All Pro and Bucky your teammate. Yeah, 422 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: k hard Man, look at k hard announce some picks. 423 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he looks like. Harry 424 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: still have been working out, TV's still be shaped or 425 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: if he's uh kind of become a legend beyond being 426 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: one in his own mind. He's pretty good shape, He's 427 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: pretty does he does some stuff for the Jags. Yeah, 428 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: he's get good, yeah, K, because I never get to 429 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: uh Daily's Place schedule. By the way, May five a 430 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: w Dynamite, Blood and Guts. The name of the show 431 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: that's on May five, that's right, Bucky Taneski Trucks Fireside Live. 432 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: That's Pieces of the Tanesky Trucks Band June eleventh, June twelve, 433 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: Brad Paisley July eight, The Doobie Brothers with Michael McDonald 434 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: July twenty one. Tickets available now at Daily's Place dot com. 435 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: Let's get to social media today. And normally we have 436 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: a you know a lot of days, we'll have a 437 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: bunch of questions. We've got one today. But the story 438 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: on social media today, at least from this trio on 439 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: this podcast, Bucky Brooks stir it up the Baltimore Ravens 440 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: aunt bed today and and poking that fan base with 441 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: a stick a couple of times, because apparently you go 442 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: on a show earlier this week and say, you know 443 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: what they should get Justin Fields and let Lamar Jackson 444 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: the m v P graduate and move on so they 445 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: don't have to pay him a big contract, and Pro 446 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Football Talk put it out there, put a long story 447 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: about it. I saw Bamony Jones ripping you in the 448 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: pieces all these people on social media today. So what 449 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: do your theory? I want to hear what you have 450 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: to say for yourself, Bucky Okay, so one I think 451 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: what people have to understand. I use Lamar Jackson. That's 452 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: something that I believe some teams will begin to do, 453 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: much like we've seen moneyball in baseball have an impact 454 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: on the way teams go baseball teams in football, and 455 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: you can play moneyball if you think about the quarterback, 456 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: not as the franchise quarterback that we celebrate, but hey, 457 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: he's a commodity. And if you don't have one of 458 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: those top five quarterbacks, the guy that we celebrate like 459 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, then you 460 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: have to seriously consider how much are we willing to 461 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: pay for a guy who isn't great. Let's bring this 462 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: back home to Jacksonville. Blake Bortles. What do we feel 463 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: about Blake Bortles? When Blake Borders was nearing the end 464 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: of his deal, you pick at the fifth year option, 465 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: which is fine, but are you really willing to pay 466 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: him what the market rate is for quarterback? Even though 467 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: you know he's not that guy. So what I proposed is, 468 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: let's take a collegiate look. Let's use the collegiate model 469 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: where you bring the quarterback in. You have the quarterback 470 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: under your control for at least five years with the 471 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: fifth year option, maybe seven years, with the ability to 472 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: use the franchise tag. If you're the Baltimore Ravens, then 473 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: you have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson wants to command maybe 474 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: forty million plus dollars. Do you really want to pay 475 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: that for maybe a guy who's a run around quarterback. 476 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: If you don't want to pay that, then the best 477 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: thing to do would be, how can I grab the 478 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: next quarterback that can do similar stuff the athletic quarterback JP. 479 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: You know from calling games in college, it's a lot 480 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: easier to find those guys that can run around and 481 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: make plays the traditional status quarterback. And so if college 482 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: is supplying that, why not take that approach. Hey, every 483 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: four or five years, would do like Alabama or Clemson. Ay, 484 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: one five star comes in, another five star goes out, 485 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: and we continue to keep the system. Because when you 486 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: have a quarterback on a rookie deal, it allows you 487 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: to build up the rest of the team. So now 488 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: I can have the best offensive line, the best playmakers, 489 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the best defense, and I only need that guy to 490 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: punction in a role. And so that's what I was suggesting, 491 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: based off of Eric the Costas comments saying, hey, it's 492 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: a little tight if we have to pay them, I 493 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: don't know this, and the changes the dynamic. Hey, don't 494 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: eat me hate your general manager because your general manager 495 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: suggested it. I just took the Betinda ran with it 496 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: across the finish line. People managed senior called Bucky. I 497 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: don't know that the Ravens said it at the time, 498 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: but there was an acknowledgement amongst football people that that 499 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: might have been what the Ravens were doing initially with 500 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And it may have been you may have 501 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: been a commentator. I've thought it was somebody from the 502 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: Ravens sort of talking about it. And let may be 503 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: wrong about that, but that was my understanding of what 504 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: they were doing when they brought Lamar Jackson in, you know, 505 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: put him in place of Flacco in the first place. 506 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I think your theory has a lot of merit now, 507 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: as you know. The trouble with that is it's great 508 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: in theory. Can you pull it off when you've got 509 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: a guy who's won an m v P in there, 510 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: or is there such you know, if any organization could 511 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: do it, it would be an organization like the Ravens, 512 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: the Steelers. You know, one of those organizations where the 513 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: management and the philosophy of those organizations is so in 514 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: place that they're sort of impervious sometimes the outside criticism 515 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: because they'd be a mood that would get ripped. But 516 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: those kind of organizations can sort of withstand that because 517 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: they've been doing it their way for so long they 518 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: have a belief in what they are. I don't know 519 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens will do it, but I certainly get Bucky's point. 520 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: But here's the other thing too, Like what it does 521 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: if you operate like that, did you say, look, the 522 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: more we want to make sure we pay you. We 523 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: recognize that you want the top talents. But the teams 524 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: that have winning Super Bowls aren't the ones with the 525 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the top of the pool chain. Even though 526 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: we talk about Pat Mahomes, big deal, Pat Mahomes this 527 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: year on the cap count seven million dollars. So when 528 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: you wonder how they can go and bring over Orlando Brown, 529 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: or they can bring over some of the other guys 530 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: that they signed, Joe Tuney and those things. It's because 531 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: those guys have been able to make sacrifices and so 532 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: as you're building the team, if you put too much 533 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: of the pie, too big of a pie, piece of 534 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: the pie goes to the quarterback. It makes it hard 535 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: to god on the rest of the part. All right, 536 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: that's one theory on social media the earlier this week. 537 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Let's get to the question today from Att Denton Thomas. Hey, guys, 538 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: since Urban said he wants a media value from the 539 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: first three rounds, what positions do you see at sixty five? 540 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: And John, you've kind of been all over this the 541 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks that they need to get certain 542 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: things done, but they only have five picks in the 543 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: first couple of days to do that. They want value, 544 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: and I don't think Urban was necessarily saying we have 545 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: to have guys who are going to come in and 546 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: start right now. And when I say that, I mean 547 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: if there's an offensive lineman there that makes sense. I 548 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: don't know that player is gonna come in and start 549 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: right away. So I do think there will be at 550 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: that position. I would be surprised if they don't try 551 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: to get something in those top five picks for the 552 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: future because of the contract situations with can Norwell Lender, 553 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Lender, Camon Robinson. So but overall, you know, 554 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: the answer that the uh, the question I think I've 555 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: been saying all along. I think they're going to draft 556 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: to playmaking speed guys in the first Maybe that kicks 557 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: back to include that hundred and six pick whatever that 558 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: number is, the top of the fourth. I think somewhere 559 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: in that top six they are trying to get more 560 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: explosive on offense and add dynamics. Urban and ballk You 561 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: have both talked about it too much to make me 562 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: think that they're going to ignore that in the draft. 563 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: And on top of that, you know, safety still makes sense. 564 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: And I'll defer to Brian Sexton on this. He started 565 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: talking about playmaking big time linebacker a couple of weeks ago, 566 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, Bucky and I've talked about it 567 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought a month ago and I 568 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: first talked to Bucky about the draft, no way this 569 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: team would go linebacker with where a couple of these 570 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: big time linebackers might fall. If a big time guy 571 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: is there are twenty five. I wonder if they won't 572 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: take it. You know, it's funny that you say that, 573 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: because there's been buzz and conversation about the Jaguars taking 574 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: a linebacker at and up in the anty. When it 575 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: comes to the speed thing, John and Davis from Kentucky 576 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: has been bandied about. Jeremiah wilsu Corp Moore from Notre 577 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Dame has been thrown in there because he has some 578 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: of that hybrid playmaking ability as a linebacker's last safety um. 579 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: When you think about urban mind the defenses that he 580 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: had at Ohio State, the one thing that stood out, man, 581 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: they played fast, and as you think about what Joe 582 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: Collen has done and been around in Baltimore, it's about 583 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: the speed and the explosiveness. And so I could see 584 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: the Jaguars going linebacker there. I also can see them 585 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: taking a defensive tackle at this spot. I know we've 586 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: mocked a safety there for so long that you kind 587 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: of get used to it. But really, if you want 588 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: to be a dominant defense, you have to be strong 589 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: down the middle, and you want to be strong in 590 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: the front seven for sure. All right, do you haven't? 591 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Social media questions are in thank you for the submission 592 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: this week. Blucky, You've got Fox Sports Radio tomorrow night 593 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: for the first round. Yeah, Fox Worts Radio. So it 594 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: should be exciting. Get a chance to be on the call. 595 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhart, j Glazer, the bar Arrington, just out here, 596 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: just spitball and see him what happens should be Wow, 597 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: you want everyone to know. I mean, you talk about 598 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: your king. I feel like I gotta throw my big 599 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: joker out every now and then too. I love it. 600 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: That's tomorrow night, and you'll be with us a good 601 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: bit on Friday and Saturday as well. Bucky will look 602 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: forward to that. Johnny, Oh, we've got coverage. Boy. The 603 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: next three days are gonna be really hot and heavy. 604 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: It's our big three days really of our entire off season. 605 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: We build up to this thing from the end of 606 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: the season until Tomorrow night through Saturday. Yeah, and there's 607 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: so much JP I couldn't even push one thing. I 608 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: know Bucky and I will be provided just the next 609 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: day type coverage the next day thoughts. I'm looking forward 610 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: to that. We've never done that before. All draft, all 611 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the time for seventy a few hours. Let's go do it. 612 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: Let's do it. It's here Bucky, we'll talk to you 613 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: soon to be fun man looking forward at the end. 614 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: And to approved Jack. You know I think we all are. John, 615 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: We'll see you sooner. And remember to subscribe to the 616 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Official Jaguars Podcast Network, half of iTunes, Spotify, wherever else 617 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: you download your pods, and give us that five star 618 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: treatment as always, and we'll catch you next time on 619 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast.