Speaker 1: Hell, I suck It Dating with the Ungler and Dared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an
Speaker 1: all new episode of help by suck at Dating. Of course,
Speaker 1: I am Jared Haven, joined always by the beautiful uh
Speaker 1: full of mustache, Dean Angler. The mustache is making a return.
Speaker 1: I like it. My favorite look of yours, Dean is
Speaker 1: when you are a clean shaven with the long hair
Speaker 1: that's peaked. Dean, I find we're getting there. We're working
Speaker 1: back to it. You know, the hair has been gone
Speaker 1: for so long now, but it's getting long as you
Speaker 1: can see come back. I like it. I like the flow.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep mine for a while. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep mine until knock on wood. I'm I'm a dad.
Speaker 1: We'll see as long as hopefully everything goes. You just
Speaker 1: cut yours. I feel like I think you talked about
Speaker 1: you cutting ears. No, I trimmed it. It was still long,
Speaker 1: but I'm keeping it trimmed. I'm not gonna grow it
Speaker 1: as long as you You know, you were like straight
Speaker 1: up van life for a while with your hair and
Speaker 1: and and now you become a little domesticated recording. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're recording from a house uh, you're with Kalin indoors.
Speaker 1: But as the hair grows longer, I fully expect you
Speaker 1: to start going back into the van and recording. But
Speaker 1: we do have a very special guest who is joining us,
Speaker 1: who's listening to us banter right now. Unfortunately, you know
Speaker 1: her from The Bachelor, specifically Nick viall season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: She's of course the nap queen, the nanny. I forget
Speaker 1: what food it was. It was like macaroni and cheese
Speaker 1: that she made for you. I don't know, but you
Speaker 1: love her. We love her. She's back on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and of course is Karin Olympios. Karin, welcome back to
Speaker 1: help us like a dating Hi, guys, thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. Oh my god, are you kidding me? Oh?
Speaker 1: Cheese pasta. My producer just filled us in. That's right,
Speaker 1: che's pasta. God, that's so good. It's so good. It's
Speaker 1: defy someone to tell me a better food than cheese
Speaker 1: and pasta. And there is none, there is none. But
Speaker 1: do you still need a lot of cheese pasta? K
Speaker 1: I mean when I am not like a diet Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a diet specific thing. It's like because you
Speaker 1: can't have just like a strict diet of cheese and
Speaker 1: pasta and stay fit kind of thing. No, I'd look,
Speaker 1: I'd look, I'd be looking pretty round, But you taste
Speaker 1: buds would be so happy. I know. I would just
Speaker 1: be happy all the time. Maybe that's why I'm not
Speaker 1: happy all the time, because I'm not having enough cheese
Speaker 1: pasta exactly. I tell that to Ash all the time.
Speaker 1: Anytime we go out to eat, and we try to,
Speaker 1: you know, we go to a fancy restaurant every time
Speaker 1: we go, We're like, listen, the food is good, but
Speaker 1: would we and I feel like we'd enjoy a burger
Speaker 1: from McDonald's so much more? Like is there anything better
Speaker 1: than a coke, a cheeseburger and fries. I don't think
Speaker 1: there is, Like, literally, there's not. And there will be
Speaker 1: days where like Vince wants to take me out to
Speaker 1: like a nice dinner, and I'll look at him and
Speaker 1: be like, if you love me, you will just drive
Speaker 1: me through McDonald's. That's true love right there, True love.
Speaker 1: True love understands the need for McDonald's. Of course, I
Speaker 1: definitely do love to treat myself with a cup of
Speaker 1: a glass of Coca cola every once in a while
Speaker 1: because God, it's so bad, and I know it's so bad,
Speaker 1: but boy is it delicious? Really? I think it's too sweet.
Speaker 1: I actually prefer the diet because it's not a sugary like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's nothing better in my mind than a McDonald's coke.
Speaker 1: Whatever they do, they must like pump in c O
Speaker 1: two because that Coca cola McDonald's the fountain soda is
Speaker 1: so much more carbonated than any other Coca Cola I've had,
Speaker 1: And it's like it just tingles in my entire face
Speaker 1: as I'm eating the salty fries and it's just like
Speaker 1: the combination that I can't believe that you're saying this
Speaker 1: because I literally say that all the time. And my
Speaker 1: friends and Vince are like, what do you talk? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean you need a fountain diet coke?
Speaker 1: And I'm like it's different and they're like, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: And I completely agree with you. One. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: you said that. Well, obviously you know the good things
Speaker 1: in life, and you need to get Vince on this train.
Speaker 1: I speaking events, obviously, let's catch up with you. Karin.
Speaker 1: How are you What are you doing? I know we
Speaker 1: got dinner the other the other week was it. It
Speaker 1: was so great seeing you. I loved meeting Vince. Vince
Speaker 1: is the sweetest guy ever. He's so freaking down to earth.
Speaker 1: He's the best. So tell us how are you doing?
Speaker 1: How are you you and Vince doing well? First of all,
Speaker 1: we had an amazing time with you guys. It's really
Speaker 1: fun like dating someone that I wasn't really like, he
Speaker 1: wasn't in my life during that part of my life,
Speaker 1: so it's really cool like to involve him, um with
Speaker 1: people from that time in my life. And it was
Speaker 1: so cool just seeing you guys and having him there,
Speaker 1: like it made me feel really good. Um yeah, he's
Speaker 1: doing amazing and things are great. Things are just really
Speaker 1: really going. So once he going to propose what's going on? Um, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to Cabo randomly, that's exciting next Wednesday. He
Speaker 1: just told me yesterday He's like, I charted a jet
Speaker 1: to Cabo. Are you down? I was like, yeah, you're down,
Speaker 1: bit like, let's go. I would love to meet somebody
Speaker 1: who would say no to that. Hey, I charted a
Speaker 1: jet to Cabo. Do you want to go? Nah? Not good? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not really in the mood. I was like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean that's crazy. Yeah, he's cool, like that'll
Speaker 1: do like fun stuff like that. He's super like Bachelor Deity,
Speaker 1: which I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you never left the lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You just you went from you know, going on these
Speaker 1: extraordinary dates in in on TV to going on extraordinary
Speaker 1: dates in person. Um, it was great seeing you guys.
Speaker 1: That is cool that you say that, because Dean and
Speaker 1: I about bringing you know, Vince into quote unquote like
Speaker 1: the Bachelor World they're meeting people from the franchise, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure he has some hesitation when meeting people from
Speaker 1: the franchise, thinking they're fake, which you know, as we
Speaker 1: both know, some are. But it's it's interesting because Dean
Speaker 1: and I don't have to go through that, you know,
Speaker 1: like obviously I with Ashley, she was part of the franchise.
Speaker 1: Dean is with kalin Um. So, did did Vince know
Speaker 1: you from the show when you guys first started dating? Yes,
Speaker 1: he did know me from the show. Um, he said
Speaker 1: that he didn't, But I then found out that him
Speaker 1: and his whole family like watched the show religiously and
Speaker 1: it was actually like a really big deal for him
Speaker 1: and his family that like he went on a date
Speaker 1: with me and I had no idea, so he was
Speaker 1: just trying to play it cool. I guess I think
Speaker 1: he was just trying to play it cool. I can
Speaker 1: see Vince doing that, being like I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know who. I don't know who, so like what do
Speaker 1: you do? What are you? But I'm not kind of frustrated.
Speaker 1: It's not kind of frustrating because then you're just like, dude,
Speaker 1: just tell me the truth, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: think that you don't know anything about me, when in reality,
Speaker 1: you know that I love cheese pasta and you know
Speaker 1: that I got a namail. You know, Like, why don't
Speaker 1: you just tell me that you know those things because
Speaker 1: that would make this way easier. Yeah, and then there's
Speaker 1: always like the whole like Platinum Virgian thing, which kind
Speaker 1: of just like, oh I forgot about that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's the thing that came up a lot in my
Speaker 1: dating life after the show. But it has yet to disappoint.
Speaker 1: It never disappoints current. That's one thing I've realized about you.
Speaker 1: You do not disappoint. I aim to please you, and
Speaker 1: you usually I've always seen you succeed. You do have
Speaker 1: a brand new podcast that I do want to talk
Speaker 1: about a little bit. Karin saves us all, I remember
Speaker 1: you had a podcast. We talked about this over dinner
Speaker 1: a while ago. I feel like you were one of
Speaker 1: the first people in Bachelor franchise to have your own podcast,
Speaker 1: and you are so perfect for a podcast. I think
Speaker 1: when I when I really think of like people from
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise who need a podcast, the first two people,
Speaker 1: honestly that come of my mind are you and Nick. Yes. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, that's very flattering. Um. I yeah.
Speaker 1: So I always like my whole team coming off the
Speaker 1: show was like, you need a podcast, you need a podcast,
Speaker 1: and like, honestly, like what the podcast? No? And so
Speaker 1: then like I remember I was in l A before
Speaker 1: I even moved here or there. I don't live there anymore. Um,
Speaker 1: And I was like doing all these meetings and I
Speaker 1: had gotten an email and I said to my manager,
Speaker 1: I said, Mark, um, we have a meeting for a podcast.
Speaker 1: She'll be so happy. He goes, oh, great, Like what's
Speaker 1: the meeting, Like you have to tell me these things.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's fine, we're just gonna go. It's
Speaker 1: called podcast Stone and we're just gonna go and I
Speaker 1: didn't know that it was podcast one. I kept saying
Speaker 1: podest Stone because I read it like podcast stone. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that that's so funny. He's
Speaker 1: like all podcast one. He's like, no, Karn, this is
Speaker 1: a good thing. And I was like, oh, okay, like great,
Speaker 1: and then we went and I like did it, and
Speaker 1: everyone was like obsessed with it. And then I just
Speaker 1: like hated it because they took away like all of
Speaker 1: my creative control and it is a horrible nightmare, and
Speaker 1: I just I didn't pay attention to anymore. I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait for it to be over. It was like homework
Speaker 1: for me, and I needed to take a break from
Speaker 1: podcasting all in all for a while. And now I'm
Speaker 1: super excited to just jump back into it literally on
Speaker 1: my own. I have no one telling me how I
Speaker 1: can do things or say things, and I can just
Speaker 1: be free. You're free and those always create the best podcast.
Speaker 1: And you have such a great personality for it, uh
Speaker 1: you have. I'm looking at some of the names. Karine
Speaker 1: saves the Grammys, Karine saves Brittany, which probably is an
Speaker 1: extremely interesting one because all my god, the amount of
Speaker 1: times Ashley talks about I'm assuming this is about Britney Spears. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Ashley is obsessed with Britney Spears and everything that involves
Speaker 1: her life. She finds it very interesting and I hear
Speaker 1: about it all the time. Karine saves her lonely fans,
Speaker 1: and Karin saves your confidence. That's the one I think
Speaker 1: we could all listen to. So that's super exciting. I'm
Speaker 1: super excited that you're back in the podcast world. This
Speaker 1: one can be called Crence saves help. I suck it, dude.
Speaker 1: I love it, guys, I love it. How is your
Speaker 1: dating lives? Well, you're married, Dared, and you guys are great.
Speaker 1: So Dean like I meant you, Well, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: married too. I've got the you know, I've got you
Speaker 1: guys are married. I've got the handcuff on the finger.
Speaker 1: He says that he's married for satire. Well, I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. I'm happy that you're happy. Thanks, Karan. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: so you just said you don't live in l anymore though, No,
Speaker 1: I don't live in l anymore. I moved. I've lived
Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, Arizona now for oh my god, a year
Speaker 1: and two months. It was like a COVID thing. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a COVID thing. It just worked out so freaking well.
Speaker 1: Like I I met Vince, he was like Doe. He
Speaker 1: was doing Um, Mike the Mrs House. He's a wrestle
Speaker 1: and he was in town staying there for a while
Speaker 1: while he worked on the house. Bence Bill's houses. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know Dean, he's been the builder.
Speaker 1: Follow on Instagram. The houses he builds, dude, are be beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I follow him now. Ashley follows he
Speaker 1: like he just posts. It's like following him is like
Speaker 1: just watching HDTV literally literally, like Colton actually reached out
Speaker 1: to him um in the past and like for houses
Speaker 1: and stuff and no, yeah, well and then he's doing
Speaker 1: Teresa from Real Housewives of New Jersey and no, he's
Speaker 1: just killing it. You guys should spin off your own
Speaker 1: HDTV show. Karan, with his ability and your personality, it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's like kind of like the match made
Speaker 1: in Heaven. Well, yes, there's we're definitely um in talks
Speaker 1: with production companies. So it's it's that that's good, not
Speaker 1: gonna janx anything. That's for the future. That's a fantastic
Speaker 1: a guy. Dear Dean, we can we pitch in as
Speaker 1: a production company to like pitch this to to Netflix. Well,
Speaker 1: Aren sounds like she's already She's already in the works.
Speaker 1: It's sorry, we'll steal it. We'll steal it from them.
Speaker 1: We'll steal Karin. We have her in the room. We
Speaker 1: just gotta make sure that she doesn't leave. Um, I uh,
Speaker 1: I want you to tell the story before we take
Speaker 1: a quick break. Um, Karen, I want you to tell
Speaker 1: the story that you told a dinner about what you
Speaker 1: messaged Vince UH and d M. Because you and Vince
Speaker 1: were going back and forth when we were at dinner
Speaker 1: about who messaged who? Who d M first? Uh? And
Speaker 1: I want you to tell the people we found out
Speaker 1: that you d M Vince first, and you said something
Speaker 1: that was so freaking it's like the most Karin thing.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell the story. Oh my god, see, okay,
Speaker 1: I where's my I literally was just looking for my
Speaker 1: phone and I'm talking to you on my phone right
Speaker 1: when you were just looking around. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Karin doesn't know that she's recording on her phone right now. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was like breeched my phone. Um. Well, after a
Speaker 1: long debate at dinner, I was proven wrong. So I
Speaker 1: definitely d M first, okay, and I definitely said my
Speaker 1: number first. Yeah both times. Yeah. I don't know what
Speaker 1: what I was doing. I was I clearly was really
Speaker 1: excited to go on a date with him. Um. But
Speaker 1: he did start liking and commenting on all of my
Speaker 1: pictures and then I said to him, okay, you have
Speaker 1: my attention. Oh that's not all you said. What did
Speaker 1: I say? I can't remember and I can't. First of all,
Speaker 1: he pulled. He did it very smartly because he started
Speaker 1: following you and then he started like liking your pictures,
Speaker 1: which is surprising because this was after the show. So
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you even noticed him liking your stuff on
Speaker 1: Instagram because you know, not to sound like a jerk,
Speaker 1: but you have so many followers it's hard to notice everything.
Speaker 1: So that's that's pretty big that you noticed him following
Speaker 1: and liking your stuff. But he does what a lot
Speaker 1: of guys does, which is like putting out feelers, flirtation
Speaker 1: and see and if maybe, oh I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you'll you'll slide into his d M s, which you
Speaker 1: ultimately did. And Karin's first opening lines to Vince was
Speaker 1: you have my you have my attention, and I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. I think I literally
Speaker 1: blocked that out of my room because I would never
Speaker 1: remember it if he didn't just tell me that. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that was That's hilarious. And I'm sure he
Speaker 1: must have been stoked to see that too, you know,
Speaker 1: you get that from a pretty girl. You're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what am I doing? Oh my god, I remember, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget the first time I like saw his Instagram,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. I was like, oh maybe, Like literally, Jared,
Speaker 1: I think I told you this. I was getting every
Speaker 1: single thing I ever wanted in my life at this time.
Speaker 1: So I literally was like, oh, it's fine, Like he'll
Speaker 1: just build me a house. Like I'll just collaborate with
Speaker 1: him and he'll just build me a house. And I
Speaker 1: was like so like, I was like literally thinking that
Speaker 1: this guy was going to build me a house. Like
Speaker 1: am I okay? Like what now you guys are dating?
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, now we're dating. You now we live
Speaker 1: in a house. I'm pretty sure you said that you
Speaker 1: wanted him to make you a Barbie house. Yes, I did.
Speaker 1: I really honestly wanted him to build me like a pink,
Speaker 1: sparky Barbie house, and I thought it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That would have been the coolest thing. Ever, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Would have been extremely jealous. He should do
Speaker 1: that now now for you, Like instead of a shed,
Speaker 1: he should build you like just your own little private
Speaker 1: Barbie house where you can it's like your personal glam room.
Speaker 1: You know. Literally, it's going to be a closet in
Speaker 1: our studio, a bakery and a glam room. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the twist on your HD HDTV shows. Every house
Speaker 1: you build has a Barbie house in the backyard. Every
Speaker 1: single house comes with a bonus Barbie house. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We do have to take a quick break, but we
Speaker 1: do have a lot more coming up with Karan Karina.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about obviously you're I guess you're
Speaker 1: your jewelry line, uh, or a sugarcoat I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that right yes, or a sugar coup which I'm wearing
Speaker 1: my beautiful bracelet right now. Karine made me a bracelet,
Speaker 1: gave it to me a dinner, she made one from me,
Speaker 1: and Ashley has my initials on there or well it
Speaker 1: says has it's A j in today for Jared and Ashley.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. When you first gave it to me,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's almost my first name, but
Speaker 1: just a. I was like she must have just given up.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh j and A Jared and
Speaker 1: Ashley that you like. When you looked at it, you
Speaker 1: were like, oh, oh, I love it because I was
Speaker 1: like JA, and then I was like, oh, where's the
Speaker 1: R E D? And then I was like oh Jared
Speaker 1: and astually got it now. Um, and I also want
Speaker 1: to talk about you got a shout out from Amelia. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's her? Scott Distric's girlfriend, Amelia Gray Hamlet, Amelia Hamlin,
Speaker 1: Lisa Rena's daughter. Uh, that's freaking awesome. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that much much more right after this quick break.
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Speaker 1: to help. I suck at dating Dean myself, Karin uh
Speaker 1: in the house, I don't know, in the his a
Speaker 1: trying to stay cool. I want to talk about So
Speaker 1: you got a shout out on Instagram from Amelia Hamlin,
Speaker 1: who is Scott's Scott Distick's girlfriend. Um, because you have
Speaker 1: your jewelry line or our sugar and or excuse me
Speaker 1: or or sugar and she was wearing a bracelet with
Speaker 1: Scott's name on it that you made for her and
Speaker 1: she posted online. Then obviously I see it on us
Speaker 1: weekly in People magazine. Uh, so do you know Amelia?
Speaker 1: How that? How did that happen? So? I do know
Speaker 1: Amelia and Delilah. Um, they're great girls. I hung out
Speaker 1: with them a few times in l A. And Delilah
Speaker 1: was one of my friends for a while. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still I still talk to them here and there,
Speaker 1: even though I don't live there anymore. And um, I
Speaker 1: was I were actually doing belly chains, which I'm actually
Speaker 1: filling a huge order right now, but we're doing these
Speaker 1: belly chains and Delilah saw them and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love them, and I was like, hey, like, we'll
Speaker 1: send you something like whatever. And then we wound up
Speaker 1: just throwing in some for Amelia that said Scott on
Speaker 1: it and some for Scott that said the Lord. And
Speaker 1: we had a lot of celebrities thank God that we're
Speaker 1: in love our bracelets, chokers, belly change rings and um,
Speaker 1: I'm talking like like big people and she just posted
Speaker 1: one little story about it, and it's like, excuse my language,
Speaker 1: but hit the fan, and we're so thankful it was.
Speaker 1: It's so cool. I'm so glad that that's what got
Speaker 1: us out there. Um. But yeah, I was like it
Speaker 1: was like article after article after article. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so great. You're gonna be able to build
Speaker 1: your own your own Barbie house. Who need Vince? Clearly
Speaker 1: Literally it's really awesome. And now we had a bunch
Speaker 1: of stores reach out filling a store order. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's just literal dreams are coming true here. How did
Speaker 1: or a Sugarcoat take off? Because, um, last time I
Speaker 1: talked to you, I don't remember hearing about it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a new thing. I started beating in quarantine. Um
Speaker 1: I started doing these bracelets that um I was selling
Speaker 1: for four dollars and I was donating all the money
Speaker 1: um to Feeding America during quarantine and um, lindsay my partner.
Speaker 1: Her name on Instagram is Cupcake Montgomery's. You might see
Speaker 1: her tagged in a lot of my stories and stuff. Also,
Speaker 1: my sister Taylor is part of it. I just had
Speaker 1: to say that and she she was beating also and
Speaker 1: I saw her beads and she reached out to me
Speaker 1: and asked if I wanted someone. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: her beads are awesome, and she sent me some and
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with them. We collabed. It went amazing,
Speaker 1: and then m after our first collab, we did another
Speaker 1: clab and then we were like, you know what, LUTs,
Speaker 1: just let's just do this. Let's make this a company,
Speaker 1: Let's sell a bunch of gifts items, let's do custom beads,
Speaker 1: and let's just do this. And I have just poured
Speaker 1: my entire soul into this for the past two months
Speaker 1: and it's only been eight weeks and this is where
Speaker 1: we are. I love my bracelet. Ashley loves hers. They're
Speaker 1: super nice. So I think Dean would love one because
Speaker 1: they're very Dean esque, Like I feel like Dean wearing one.
Speaker 1: I have to make you in kalins them. I would
Speaker 1: love one. Yeah, we both would. Yeah, I gotta get
Speaker 1: you guys or a up. They're like, um, like the
Speaker 1: beads that I have, They're very beachy. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I may have bought beads before I went on Paradise
Speaker 1: for like trying to be like that California guy, like
Speaker 1: pretty much trying to be like Dean now and they
Speaker 1: were like definitely express or H and M or like
Speaker 1: beads that you get like right before you cash out
Speaker 1: at the Red Shirt. Karine, you have no idea I
Speaker 1: am that guy. Ashley married that guy. Oh oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy for her. Um. I have since learned, I've
Speaker 1: gotten better, but but now I love them. I love
Speaker 1: these things and now like I just feel like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go learn how to serve um. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: big the reason. Like I mean, first of all, this
Speaker 1: is amazing that she posted online for you. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy that your business is blowing up. Um. I'm also
Speaker 1: just a big Scott Dissic fan. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I remember I never watched reality TV before I went
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, and then I watched Jersey Shore. That
Speaker 1: was the only show I watched. But I remember my
Speaker 1: friend who signed me up for the show was obsessed
Speaker 1: with kardash Hits, and I would watch a couple episodes
Speaker 1: here and there whenever she had it on because we
Speaker 1: were roommates. And I loved Scott Dissick because I remember
Speaker 1: seeing him one time he got knighted and he became
Speaker 1: Lord Dissick and he was such a jerk but super funny,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I like this guy, Like there's
Speaker 1: something about Scott Dissac that I like. So the fact
Speaker 1: that his girlfriend shouted you out, I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: I fan boyd for you. Wow, well thank you? Um yeah, no,
Speaker 1: was super super exciting. I just wish he had the
Speaker 1: bracelet on that said the Lord, but she was wearing
Speaker 1: it and it's like man beads and huge. So I
Speaker 1: was like, babe, like that's for him, but it's fine,
Speaker 1: Like it's fine, you could wear. I feel like girlfriends
Speaker 1: love doing that stuff where they steal their boyfriends, whether
Speaker 1: it's like clothing or jewelry or something and where. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think it's I think it's phil Why is
Speaker 1: that current? Is it ownership. I think it's just hot.
Speaker 1: I think it's like for for I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think like, are you asking, like in a girl's opinion,
Speaker 1: why we do that? Or like yes, because like it
Speaker 1: started off. I remember in high school it was letterman
Speaker 1: jackets they would wear like girlfriends were their boyfriend's letterman jackets,
Speaker 1: which was three sizes too big for them, but they
Speaker 1: loved it and they thought it was cool. And then
Speaker 1: like that's hot. That's hot. Now what is it is it?
Speaker 1: Is it hot because you feel hot in it? Or
Speaker 1: is it hot because you're more attracted to your boyfriend
Speaker 1: and you feel like my this is mom man. Like
Speaker 1: now it's sweatshirts. Like I mean, Ashley wears my sweatshirts
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, I feel like she just is
Speaker 1: my clothing all the time. And I don't know why.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a little bit of like for
Speaker 1: some reason, it's kind of sexy and I don't know
Speaker 1: why it's hot it's hot. I definitely don't wear my
Speaker 1: own pajamas ever, and I have like nice lingerie and
Speaker 1: then I just wind up going to bed and like
Speaker 1: baggy sat pants and a T shirt. And I feel
Speaker 1: like the hottest I've ever fell, and I like walking around.
Speaker 1: He's like, can you not wear that when you're trying
Speaker 1: to be hot? And I'm like, I'm hot in this,
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Let's say one night Vince
Speaker 1: shows up to bed wearing some of your clothes. What's
Speaker 1: your reaction to that. I'm just gonna pack my bag,
Speaker 1: get in my car, and back over at that point.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I could see it. Calin's
Speaker 1: got some comfortable clothes I could probably get away with wearing.
Speaker 1: I think, do you just any of your clothes all
Speaker 1: the time? And it's so frustrating. She steals my favorite shirts.
Speaker 1: She's had my favorite shirt since like the first, uh
Speaker 1: first week we started dating. She took like my absolute
Speaker 1: favorite shirt and she still hasn't more at all time.
Speaker 1: So I guess she's getting more out of it than
Speaker 1: I was. But it's rustrating because I'm like, that's my
Speaker 1: shirt and I have it and own it for reason.
Speaker 1: It's because I like it, and here you are, you know,
Speaker 1: monopolizing the ownership of it, and it's just it's a
Speaker 1: little unfair. I think this is so crazy that we're
Speaker 1: talking about this, because before I ever had even my
Speaker 1: first podcast, um my very good friend and I were
Speaker 1: talking about how we just have all these boy's T shirts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have anymore because I live with
Speaker 1: Finns and I love him very much. So if you're listening,
Speaker 1: I love you, Wins. But over the years, you collect
Speaker 1: all these T shirts from these guys, and you just
Speaker 1: have a collection of T shirts, And we wanted to
Speaker 1: do a podcast like my Excess T Shirts and talk
Speaker 1: about all these different shirts that you've collected over time.
Speaker 1: I don't know now that I'm talking about it sounds
Speaker 1: so dumb, but it sounded really interesting. No, trust me,
Speaker 1: I feel like Ashley could get behind this, even though
Speaker 1: obviously we all know Ashley isn't promiscuous in her younger years,
Speaker 1: but like she she's definitely collected uh momentum, like probably
Speaker 1: not shirts from specific dudes, but like shirts that she
Speaker 1: had crushes on. I don't know how she obtained these things,
Speaker 1: like she would ask a bar or sweatshirt. I know,
Speaker 1: but I don't think she has them anymore because I
Speaker 1: don't want to put her on blast, but like I
Speaker 1: love you put it this way, her sister definitely does listening.
Speaker 1: Confidence is key, so kudos to her. We talked about
Speaker 1: this last week a little bit, Jarry, because Kylin had
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend's T shirt for a little bit when
Speaker 1: we first started dating, and war it to sleep sometimes
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are you doing wearing that?
Speaker 1: Like you shouldn't be wearing that. So it's it's like
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing, you know, like especially if
Speaker 1: it's an X or something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I agree with Karen's stake, like each shirt probably
Speaker 1: has its own story, Like I could see that being
Speaker 1: spun out into something interesting. It would be so interesting
Speaker 1: as the girl, though, you can't tell your new Like
Speaker 1: so if you're a girl dating a guy, you can't
Speaker 1: tell the guy that these shirts are like from past
Speaker 1: guys like Kaitlyn did with you. You need to like
Speaker 1: just take that to the grave. It was pretty obvious
Speaker 1: what it was was because it was a T shirt
Speaker 1: that's an Air Force across the front of it, And
Speaker 1: I was like, why would you ever have an Air
Speaker 1: Force shirt? She should have just been like I went
Speaker 1: to the air show one time, right. I agree with Jared.
Speaker 1: Some things you just you just you take with you
Speaker 1: and you don't even look in the mirror and talk
Speaker 1: to yourself about it in the mirror. Some things you
Speaker 1: just take to the grade because it just like brings
Speaker 1: up a source. There's no point. There's no point exactly.
Speaker 1: Like even the other day, ashe and I were talking,
Speaker 1: because I was saying, how again I'm that guy. I
Speaker 1: want to go to Disney World. I haven't been a
Speaker 1: Disney or Universal and so long I want to go,
Speaker 1: And then she was like, well we She was like,
Speaker 1: remember we went like a year and a half. She
Speaker 1: was like, I remember a few years ago we went
Speaker 1: and we went on that ride and I was like,
Speaker 1: I never went on that ride and she was like, wait, no,
Speaker 1: we went. We were on this ride together, I remember.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I never went on that ride.
Speaker 1: And she was like oh because she like she went
Speaker 1: with Kevin after Winter Games to Disneyland, and I was like, you,
Speaker 1: son of I was like, I'm just I'm gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna control myself, even though it was Disney and
Speaker 1: you were there without me with somebody else, And now
Speaker 1: you tell me the story would be the same thing
Speaker 1: if she if I if I saw her walking in
Speaker 1: with a shirt and I'm like, who's what shirt is?
Speaker 1: That and she was like, oh, you gave me this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I didn't. And then she was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, that other guy gave it to me.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, well that's going in the garbage right now,
Speaker 1: oh my god. But honestly, in our defense, it doesn't
Speaker 1: always mean something just because we're wearing it. It's uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like my ex I had a bunch of T shirts
Speaker 1: from his company, um and then John, my ex, was like,
Speaker 1: why are you wearing Jordan's T shirts from Humble And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I like Humble pens and then he
Speaker 1: made me throw them out and I'm like, honestly, like
Speaker 1: you're weird, Like I don't even think anything of it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm with you, but I get it. I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: imagine if the shoe is on the other foot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would burn everything his ex girlfriend ever owned. You'd
Speaker 1: put it in the pile, you'd pour gasoline on it,
Speaker 1: and you'd like that mother up. Yeah, I'd probably just
Speaker 1: like throw it off the face of theater. I've definitely
Speaker 1: done the Ashley thing before, where I started sharing a
Speaker 1: story of like being like remember when we did this,
Speaker 1: and then like half of the other story like that
Speaker 1: wasn't with her, it was with someone else, and then
Speaker 1: like you like you have to like trail off and
Speaker 1: like try to cover your track somehow. You know, I've
Speaker 1: definitely I've definitely done that before. Oh God, good times,
Speaker 1: good times. Well current. As you know, we are a
Speaker 1: dating podcast. I wanted to ask you because you are
Speaker 1: a beater as you say, Um, I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about, uh, like making jewelry for significant others. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not as permanent as a tattoo. I remember when
Speaker 1: like we talked about who wasn't Lace and Grant on
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise got a tattoo together and then of
Speaker 1: course they ended up breaking up and how to get
Speaker 1: the tattoo remoofs. So it's not as permanent that. But
Speaker 1: what do you think about jewelry that's symbolic for you know, uh,
Speaker 1: significant others, Like you know, I know some people have
Speaker 1: puzzle pieces and like one person has a puzzle piece
Speaker 1: and the other person has a puzzle piece and it
Speaker 1: like goes together. What are your thoughts on that? Is
Speaker 1: it cringe? E cute? I'm a huge fan of custom
Speaker 1: and personalization stuff. I've i have been doing it honestly,
Speaker 1: for such a long time, even like boyfriends in high school.
Speaker 1: I had the puzzle piece with a boyfriend in high school.
Speaker 1: So the next boyfriend I got something customized, didn't do
Speaker 1: a puzzle piece. I did like a broken little heart,
Speaker 1: little heart I went together. So and then the next
Speaker 1: boyfriend I didn't do that. So honestly, it's a It's
Speaker 1: a thing that I love to do personally. Is it
Speaker 1: weird when you break up? Absolutely, because you feel weird
Speaker 1: using that, like that same thing that was like cute
Speaker 1: with your other whatever. Mhm. But I think that that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is super special. I think it makes
Speaker 1: a great gift. I think it shows like a lot
Speaker 1: of like, um, sentimental value. Do you guys agree? You now,
Speaker 1: what do you think? I absolutely agree? I um. I
Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea as long as like,
Speaker 1: if let's say you start getting someone else later on,
Speaker 1: as long as you're like reusing the same ideas over
Speaker 1: and over again, you know what I mean? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: You've got to be creative. Come on, come on now,
Speaker 1: got to be creative otherwise it gets Stale's funny because
Speaker 1: I have one of my friends was saying something like uh,
Speaker 1: recently to where he was like kind of put on
Speaker 1: blast from an X about something that he did for
Speaker 1: her that he also did for like a couple of
Speaker 1: other ex girlfriends and something. Then it was just a
Speaker 1: big deal. I don't know, all right, I'm going to
Speaker 1: defend that for a second because as a person who
Speaker 1: may or may not have repeated some tricks Y passed
Speaker 1: in present relationship. Listen, I'm only so creative. I'm only
Speaker 1: one man. I only have so many tricks up my sleeve.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't mean gifts. I mean like
Speaker 1: like dates or because I remember, I forget exactly what
Speaker 1: it was, but I wanted to go on this date
Speaker 1: with Ash and I was like, oh, I already did
Speaker 1: this one time with somebody else, but like, well, what
Speaker 1: was it? What was it? I forget? Honestly, it was
Speaker 1: something because dates are bound to happen, like they're going
Speaker 1: to go on some of the same dates. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about gifting. Well, yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: like put myself on blast here, but the no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't I don't want to die. Um,
Speaker 1: there may have been something that like it's not identical.
Speaker 1: It's not the exact same gift or the same kind
Speaker 1: of gift, but like certain themes may have been familiar
Speaker 1: between one gift for someone and another gift for someone else. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna stop you right there.
Speaker 1: Let's just stop talking about this because as soon as
Speaker 1: this is over, actually makes so what gift? What gift was? No,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be so obvious. Uh um. So, Karin,
Speaker 1: I also wanted to ask you because Amelia did shout
Speaker 1: you out on Instagram, which is awesome. Now it's there
Speaker 1: in the news a lot because there's a pretty significant
Speaker 1: age difference. So Scott Distik is thirty seven, Amelia is nineteen.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on an eighteen year age gap
Speaker 1: between people? What's the oldest you would have ever did? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how old Vince is, but you guys
Speaker 1: seem pretty similar in age. But do you think that
Speaker 1: eighteen years is too much too old for someone too
Speaker 1: young for someone? Well? I love Amelia, I really do,
Speaker 1: and I listen if you're I mean, no one knows
Speaker 1: the exact relationships behind closed doors. My personal opinion for
Speaker 1: me or if like my sister was dating like, hell
Speaker 1: is my sister and my sister swunny, right, So if
Speaker 1: she was dating like some like forty year old guy,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, like, what are you doing? And I
Speaker 1: also think it's different if you're under twenty one. If
Speaker 1: you're over twenty one and you're dating someone with a
Speaker 1: twenty year difference and you can still have a drink together,
Speaker 1: I think that that's fine. I mean, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that their relationship is fine. I don't
Speaker 1: know how they are. They could just be like literal
Speaker 1: soul mate and like, I'm so happy for them. But
Speaker 1: do I think that you should be dating someone that
Speaker 1: you can have an alcoholic beverage with. It's legal, it's
Speaker 1: probably important. Probably yeah, probably no, And I mean I
Speaker 1: think it's all I think again, like Karen said, it
Speaker 1: all depends if your values line up, you know, because
Speaker 1: it is hard. Uh. I know someone who's a little
Speaker 1: bit older who's dating someone who's a little bit younger,
Speaker 1: and they're they're super in love and they're so happy,
Speaker 1: but there is like a concern as a friend saying, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you're you're ready for family, you're ready to have kids,
Speaker 1: like today, are they you know, are they ready because
Speaker 1: they're a little bit younger, or you know, are they
Speaker 1: ready to settle down and get married and have kids
Speaker 1: within the next two years. I don't think Amelia is,
Speaker 1: so that's why. I mean, then he already has kids,
Speaker 1: has kids, so it's like maybe he's not even in
Speaker 1: a rush to do that with her either, exactly. I
Speaker 1: think it all depends on the individual situation, because honestly,
Speaker 1: I've seen people who are very happily married or happily
Speaker 1: together that are in their late thirties early forties dating
Speaker 1: someone who's a late teenager or early twenties, like on
Speaker 1: the outset, on the you know, outside of thirty feet.
Speaker 1: As I look down upon it, I'm like, uh, that's
Speaker 1: a big age difference. I don't know. But if you're happy, Um, Like,
Speaker 1: who am I to say? I think it all depends
Speaker 1: as long as your values line up and you guys
Speaker 1: are on the same page, that's probably the most important thing.
Speaker 1: It's a similar situation with Nick and his girlfriend, because
Speaker 1: Nick's what forty and his girlfriends like twenty to twenty three.
Speaker 1: But to Karin's point, at least Nick and his girlfriend
Speaker 1: can go get a drink together, which I think is
Speaker 1: um maybe a little bit more right. But that being
Speaker 1: said too, I think I finally got to meet Natalie
Speaker 1: for the first time the other day, and I think
Speaker 1: that she is great for Nick and vice versa. So
Speaker 1: I do think it is a case by case basis
Speaker 1: most definitely. But on the on the surface when you
Speaker 1: look at it, it's a little maybe like strange until
Speaker 1: you actually kind of get down and get to hang
Speaker 1: out with them. But I don't know. Deet and I
Speaker 1: talked about this in the podcast. I I was never
Speaker 1: opposed to dating older women. Sure you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: Vince is a few months younger than me, and I
Speaker 1: like literally said my whole life, I would never ever,
Speaker 1: ever ever date someone younger than me, you know, as
Speaker 1: like the woman, I feel like the man should be older.
Speaker 1: But like now that I'm with like, of course, because
Speaker 1: I was against it my whole life, I ended up
Speaker 1: with someone that's a little bit younger than me. Um,
Speaker 1: just by a few months. I mean, nothing free, easy,
Speaker 1: but like it's just so muture. As you met him,
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't know that he was he's twenty eight. Yeah, damn.
Speaker 1: He definitely comes off like yeah, yeah, And I say
Speaker 1: that the most endearing way possible, Like he definitely doesn't
Speaker 1: really he he really just like has his together, Like
Speaker 1: he is a guy that has it together and he's together.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am obsessed. Wait, I wanted to
Speaker 1: stircle back really quick to about Scott. I think one
Speaker 1: of the main things also about Scott is that he's
Speaker 1: like not a normal forty year old or however old
Speaker 1: he is. He's a cool guy. That's like in the
Speaker 1: teeny bopper culture where these girls like he's like still
Speaker 1: hanging out and doing clubs and like being cool and
Speaker 1: being like whatever. You know what I mean. He's not
Speaker 1: just like a regular forty year old guy. And I
Speaker 1: think that that helps to Oh, I totally agree, like Scott,
Speaker 1: this is an anomaly because it's not like he's working,
Speaker 1: like it's like he's got a very obscure life, a
Speaker 1: great life. Um, but I totally agree. Um. All right,
Speaker 1: well we do have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 1: when we come back, UM, we are going to touch
Speaker 1: on the reality Steve situation that has been brought to
Speaker 1: light over the past few days. We do have some
Speaker 1: of your wonderful emails of course that is Dean's favorite
Speaker 1: part of the show. So stay tuned and we're gonna
Speaker 1: be right back right after they all. Right, welcome back
Speaker 1: to help by suck At Dating. You got the trio, Karin,
Speaker 1: Dean myself. We have your wonderful emails. But before we
Speaker 1: get into your emails, I do think we have to
Speaker 1: at least mention the situation going on Reality Steve right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was some screenshots of old um things that he
Speaker 1: said in his blogs, specifically about jade Um, and now
Speaker 1: Demi has come out and just accused him of making
Speaker 1: unwanted sexual advances towards him. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: listen my thoughts. I don't know Reality Steve. I almost
Speaker 1: went on his podcast years ago. I ended up not um.
Speaker 1: I never really had an issue with him until because
Speaker 1: I didn't read you know, I listened to him occasionally
Speaker 1: about spoilers and things of that nature because I found
Speaker 1: it interesting because he was talking about you know, things,
Speaker 1: you know, people that I knew UM. But you know,
Speaker 1: after the whole Jordan and Jenna situation, if you guys
Speaker 1: remember that where he got some false information that always
Speaker 1: kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. And
Speaker 1: then Actually I only found out about the things that
Speaker 1: he said about Jade a few months ago. Uh. We
Speaker 1: were hanging out with Jade and Tanner and I don't
Speaker 1: know how it came up, but she brought it up,
Speaker 1: and then she showed us what he had said about
Speaker 1: her back in two thousand and fifteen when she was
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, and it was just trash, Like it
Speaker 1: was just trash to say back then. It was it
Speaker 1: would be trashed to say now. Um, And so ever
Speaker 1: since then, I just I don't have an opinion towards him.
Speaker 1: I could care less and U those are those are
Speaker 1: my thoughts. Like, obviously Jade is a very close personal
Speaker 1: friend of mine, you know. So Ever since then, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, I I don't really want
Speaker 1: to listen to this dude anymore. That's so weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jylan mentioned something about the about Demi talking about it,
Speaker 1: and we were both kind of like, what the heck? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, it's funny because he has talked
Speaker 1: a lot of crap about like all of us. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, but just weird to think
Speaker 1: that he would then overstep the boundary of like saying
Speaker 1: that to someone that he hasn't been saying it too.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's your what's your experience been with him,
Speaker 1: because I feel like he's been He's just like generally
Speaker 1: has been a jerk to all of us, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like not many people, I feel like with a
Speaker 1: bachelor would say nice things about him. I I can't
Speaker 1: imagine him saying anything nice about me, especially after Paradise
Speaker 1: or anything. So honestly, I just didn't. I don't really
Speaker 1: pay attention to him. There's no way that someone can
Speaker 1: know everything and be right all the time. You just
Speaker 1: you just can't. So I just I just don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't understand the reality Steve thing. Like, I just
Speaker 1: I just don't like him. I never did, so I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I honestly don't even know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Guys, we probably should have filled
Speaker 1: you and I'm so sorry. Uh, there was just some
Speaker 1: screenshots that came to light, uh, things that he wrote. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was more. I haven't looked
Speaker 1: too much into the story, but I know the things
Speaker 1: that he said about Jade came to light that terrible.
Speaker 1: It was just terrible, like even it was. It was
Speaker 1: just distasteful, gross jokes that um you know now, especially
Speaker 1: being so close to Jade, like hearing her talk about
Speaker 1: it and how like sad comments like that made her.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, dude, just get out of here. So
Speaker 1: that's my thoughts. How did it get resurfaced so so
Speaker 1: much later? Do you know? Truthfully? I have zero idea.
Speaker 1: We live in a world where canceling is a thing.
Speaker 1: People are just looking for anything from anyone to cancel anyone.
Speaker 1: So it's just I mean, everything's going to get resurfed, resurfing.
Speaker 1: I mean human beings. Like listen, we all make mistakes,
Speaker 1: you know, we all say stupid stuff, but you know,
Speaker 1: to make it public, Like there's things you don't say publicly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like Taylor Nolan, you shouldn't have sent those things publicly,
Speaker 1: Like if you're in the spotlight, you don't say things
Speaker 1: publicly like ever, or if you did, maybe go back
Speaker 1: and delete them if they weren't in the spotlight and
Speaker 1: then you are now, maybe go back and delete things
Speaker 1: that you said that were inappropriate that you don't want
Speaker 1: people to find. Well. I remember my very first experience
Speaker 1: the reality Steve because I had no idea who he
Speaker 1: was up until he started writing about our season, the
Speaker 1: very first season, and I just remember I was so
Speaker 1: pissed because he decided to talk like he was like
Speaker 1: talking about my facial hair, like my because I can't
Speaker 1: really grow very u good facial hair. Um, Jared, you
Speaker 1: can test this, but even though you can go like
Speaker 1: a beerd than I can I get like this. I've
Speaker 1: got like this pre pubescent, like patchy and just like
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good growing facial hair. And I like
Speaker 1: hadn't shaved like four or five days before going on
Speaker 1: my first one on one with Rachel and uh in
Speaker 1: the episode where I was like talking about grieving the
Speaker 1: loss of my mom, he was like just talking. Oh
Speaker 1: the only thing he talked about about me was talking
Speaker 1: about my facial hair. And I was like, what the dude,
Speaker 1: Like sorry for my language, I was like, who does this? Like,
Speaker 1: why of all the things to focus on on this episode,
Speaker 1: you talk crap about my facial hair. I was like,
Speaker 1: You're the worst. And then ever since then, I've been like,
Speaker 1: this guy is the absolute worst. But he has actually
Speaker 1: kind of gotten in between relationships too, Like when Christine
Speaker 1: and I were you know, kind of figuring things out.
Speaker 1: I remember he was like threatening her with certain things,
Speaker 1: and I guess would be threatening it is not the
Speaker 1: right word because that makes it sound way more severe
Speaker 1: than it was. But he was like he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to share this information blah blah blah, and then
Speaker 1: like it put that like a weird strain on a
Speaker 1: on a relationship that hadn't really fully formed yet, and
Speaker 1: so it was just it was just unneeded and unnecessary. So, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never been a big fan of him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the press in general. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean things are like there's always like people that are
Speaker 1: going to say nonic things, and there's always people that
Speaker 1: are just going to say disgusting things like Instagram every
Speaker 1: day totally. Just let's go through our Twitter feeds. We'll
Speaker 1: find some good and bad in there. Um. So we
Speaker 1: do have some of your wonderful emails before we get going. Uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: if you're still there and would like to read some
Speaker 1: of these emails, we would love to hear your wonderful voice. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I'm happy to read them
Speaker 1: and appreciate you including me. This is so Catherine, and
Speaker 1: it's for Dean. That was Calin's parents initial reaction to you?
Speaker 1: What did they think of you when you met them
Speaker 1: for the first time since you lived in a van,
Speaker 1: claimed to be unemployed, and we're known as a playboy
Speaker 1: before Calin? Oh, what were the what were her parents
Speaker 1: thoughts of me? Oh, that's a good question. It's funny
Speaker 1: because you would expect them to be really negative and
Speaker 1: probably pretty mean. Um, but I've never really had too
Speaker 1: hard of a time getting along with parents. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I think generally speaking, most parents are going
Speaker 1: to be pretty nice and easy going, and uh, they
Speaker 1: might have their opinions of you before you meet them.
Speaker 1: But in my experience, at least, when I met Calin's parents,
Speaker 1: they were super nice, super cordial. Her dad, uh, well,
Speaker 1: her stepfather, I guess it was incredibly nice. Um. He
Speaker 1: basically like the remember the first time we met for
Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving, he just like pulled me aside and he's like,
Speaker 1: just make sure you take care of her, like you know,
Speaker 1: the traditional like dad too, daughter's boyfriend talk, And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, okay, I can, Like I'm obviously gonn
Speaker 1: try to do my best with all those things. Um.
Speaker 1: And so they were all perfectly fine and very pleasant.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's funny always going into those conversations
Speaker 1: because I'm always like, yeah, like you know, I'm unemployed,
Speaker 1: I live in a van blah blah blah. Like if
Speaker 1: I was a parent and I heard, uh, my daughter
Speaker 1: dating a guy like that, I'd be like, what the
Speaker 1: heck are you doing? Like why are you dating this guy? Um?
Speaker 1: But I've never really had any issues with that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, why have you either of you ever had
Speaker 1: an issue where you met someone's parents and they didn't
Speaker 1: like you or something. Honestly, No, yeah, everyone loved me.
Speaker 1: And I'm being actually seriously, did Vince Sue, did Vince's
Speaker 1: family have any hesitations just because of your reputation on
Speaker 1: the show. They're definitely were hesitations there, But I have
Speaker 1: a very good relationship with them now, and I think
Speaker 1: it took a little bit of time, um for us
Speaker 1: to get to where we are now. Um, but it
Speaker 1: was definitely a thing with me being on the show
Speaker 1: and like things I said on the show, and then um,
Speaker 1: how quickly me and Vince moved when we first met,
Speaker 1: and then especially like when they played Vince this season
Speaker 1: again and I had I had a party at my
Speaker 1: house and I invited them and we all watched it
Speaker 1: together and then I'm like taking my top off on
Speaker 1: the TV, like and I have a platinum vagina and
Speaker 1: like just like it was really uncomfortable. No, I mean
Speaker 1: even for for me personally, it's uh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: coming after coming off after the show. I mean it
Speaker 1: was just it was questions of like, oh, the dude
Speaker 1: from Bachelor, Um, I think that always raises eyebrows. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure Dean can attest to that where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're kind of seeing a guy that was on reality
Speaker 1: TV show. He sounds like a dick just for that facet.
Speaker 1: So um, well, well, Mark, you can speak to this
Speaker 1: because you are a father of two girls. Right, So
Speaker 1: let's say and they're but I don't think they're dating
Speaker 1: age quite yet. But let's say you know, you meet
Speaker 1: a boy that they start dating and you just despise
Speaker 1: the kid. What do you do? We haven't reached that yet.
Speaker 1: My daughters fifteen. She does have a boyfriend and he's
Speaker 1: a very very nice kid and we're all very happy
Speaker 1: with him. So hopefully that good taste she has will
Speaker 1: continue moving forward. UM, I was gonna point out that
Speaker 1: when I started dating my wife, I was twenty six
Speaker 1: and she was eighteen, so there was some danger with
Speaker 1: the parents there, but they were great. Everything went fine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but that was that was back when nineteen thirties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yes, we had They had just gotten through the depression,
Speaker 1: and so that was a bigger concern for them. Um,
Speaker 1: but only way. I don't know. Well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: You just want your kid to be happy. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you don't like the guy, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: say something, I suppose, But you don't want to push
Speaker 1: her away. You just kind of want to let it
Speaker 1: run its course. My p ritted people I dated. They
Speaker 1: were always right every time and it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: So do you think you're gonna be the overprotective father.
Speaker 1: I know we've asked you this before, but are you
Speaker 1: gonna be there? No? No, I don't think so. The
Speaker 1: jokes about like, you know, sitting on the front porch
Speaker 1: with a shotgun, that's all funding and stuff. But then
Speaker 1: once they're once, they're real, you know, and they're not babies,
Speaker 1: they're growing up. You just wanted to be happy, You
Speaker 1: don't really just want to find something that you were
Speaker 1: able to find with their mom. You know. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: so sweet and make me cry. All right, go to
Speaker 1: the next email. All right, The next email is from Kalin.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a different one. I have been
Speaker 1: in a relationship with my boyfriend for about four months now.
Speaker 1: We've said I love you to each other, and just
Speaker 1: when on our first weekend get away together. He's a
Speaker 1: marine officer, and I'm so excited for him in the
Speaker 1: next steps in his career. The next year and a
Speaker 1: half to two years is going to be long distance
Speaker 1: because of everything he has to do. I've never had
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship before, and I'm wondering if you
Speaker 1: guys have any advice on how to handle it. Long
Speaker 1: distance relationship. Uh, they suck. They can work, You can
Speaker 1: work through them, um, but they definitely add another layer
Speaker 1: of difficulty to a relationship that would not be there otherwise. UM.
Speaker 1: Care And I feel like you've been in a long
Speaker 1: distance relationship before, haven't you? Yes? Um? I have. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was living in l A and my ex boyfriend
Speaker 1: UM lived in New York City actually, and I mean
Speaker 1: I was just at the time, like I don't know
Speaker 1: what I was going through but I was so like
Speaker 1: hell bent on making it work, and I was putting
Speaker 1: in all the effort. There has to be I realized
Speaker 1: after a long time, I'm like, just because I'm the
Speaker 1: one that doesn't have a nine to five, like I
Speaker 1: still have work, Like that's why I fled back and
Speaker 1: forth to l A or also would have just moved
Speaker 1: to New York City, Like there has to be a
Speaker 1: like a happy medium. We're both putting in the effort
Speaker 1: for the visiting and the phone calls and the face times,
Speaker 1: And honestly, for me, if you're not planning to move
Speaker 1: to the same area soon, it's not worth it. Long distance,
Speaker 1: like a relationship has a lot to do with spending
Speaker 1: time together and like being able to touch that person.
Speaker 1: Like if you can't like have that physical time, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you don't want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a like intimate relationship without
Speaker 1: being able to even like touch this person. Yeah, no, totally,
Speaker 1: I think Kyle, and my advice would be, of course,
Speaker 1: you can do it. I've been through not two years
Speaker 1: of a long distance relationship, but six months of one,
Speaker 1: and um, your relationship is still pretty young. You guys
Speaker 1: have only been dating for four months, so that adds
Speaker 1: another layer to this. Um, I'm excited for you. I'm
Speaker 1: excited that you guys are excited for your next steps.
Speaker 1: I would say the most important thing is communication, making
Speaker 1: sure that you guys are both on the same page,
Speaker 1: both putting in effort to see each other. Uh, not
Speaker 1: only in person, but face timing every day, talking throughout
Speaker 1: the days. UM, you know, communicating because you don't want
Speaker 1: to end up in a situation like Karin was, where
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, you're the only one who's
Speaker 1: constantly putting effort into see um, this particular person. So
Speaker 1: you know, he is a marine, so of course I'm
Speaker 1: not even joking about this. Please tell him, thank thank
Speaker 1: him for her service. Um, and uh, I wish the
Speaker 1: best for you. But I would say, of course, communication
Speaker 1: trust are two of the most important things in a
Speaker 1: long distance relationship. Yeah, I agree. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you guys. I mean, I personally couldn't do the long
Speaker 1: distance thing. I had a girlfriend in high school who
Speaker 1: moved to Sweden for a year and we tried, but man,
Speaker 1: it was hard. We like, we probably broke up like
Speaker 1: three or four months into it, just because hey, I
Speaker 1: hate talking on the phone. Um, so that's not really
Speaker 1: an option for me. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm like, if
Speaker 1: we're gonna if we're gonna talk, like, let's just hang out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like in person. So if
Speaker 1: that's not an option, it's it's pretty much a lost
Speaker 1: cause for me. But I mean that's not to say
Speaker 1: there aren't people out there that can do it. Um.
Speaker 1: The fact that he's serving in the military obviously makes
Speaker 1: it way more challenging because it's like his hours are
Speaker 1: going to be a lot more difficult, so you probably
Speaker 1: won't be able to see and talk to him as
Speaker 1: much as you want to. But if you can do it,
Speaker 1: go for it. Talking on the phone, dude, anytime it's
Speaker 1: it's someone who calls me, who's Who's somebody that I
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable telling them that I'm going to hang
Speaker 1: up now, I have a mini panic attack. Like if
Speaker 1: it's my dad or my mom or Ashley, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna take fifteen seconds. We're gonna say what
Speaker 1: we need to say and get off the phone. But
Speaker 1: if it's like somebody calling me that I don't have
Speaker 1: that close relationship with, I I'm like having a full
Speaker 1: on meltdown being like do I pick up? Do I
Speaker 1: not pick up? Do I send up the voicemail? Like?
Speaker 1: And then I become even more insecure because I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm thirty years I'm thirty two years
Speaker 1: old and I can't even talk on the phone, Like
Speaker 1: what happened to me? I truly am a part of
Speaker 1: this gen z society now where all I do is
Speaker 1: text and it's not healthy and I need to just
Speaker 1: talk on the phone anyhow. That's that's immediately it goes
Speaker 1: through my head on like seven rings. There's definitely a
Speaker 1: running joke through me all my friends and like even
Speaker 1: my family members that like they'll never get me on
Speaker 1: the phone because I just hate answering the phone unless
Speaker 1: there's like a reason to talk. Like let's say you're
Speaker 1: meeting somewhere and they're calling, like ask where you are,
Speaker 1: then quite quick conversation, you get on the phone, you
Speaker 1: tell them you hang up. But if they're calling out
Speaker 1: of the blue, just like have a conversation, I'm the
Speaker 1: absolute worst because there's no reason to the conversation, which
Speaker 1: means there's no reason to end the conversation, and it
Speaker 1: just it's I it gives me so much anxiety. We
Speaker 1: can't even get you on this podcast most of the time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we understand what you're saying. This is the
Speaker 1: thing that drains me. So I on this podcast for
Speaker 1: one hour a week, and that means I can't talk
Speaker 1: to anyone on the phone for the rest of the
Speaker 1: week because of this podcast. Yeah. He he builds up
Speaker 1: all his mental energy for this one hour, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: and it takes me, uh, six days and twenty three
Speaker 1: hours to recover enough to be back on the next episode.
Speaker 1: I kind of respect it. I'm not gonna lie. Well, Karin,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on this week's episode.
Speaker 1: You're the best everybody out there. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: out or sugar cut if you want to be cool
Speaker 1: like me and get your beads, or if you want
Speaker 1: to be cool like Amelia what's her name, My god,
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot, Amelia Hamlin. Amelia Hamlin. Of course, Scott
Speaker 1: Disac who I'm hoping we'll post on his I G
Speaker 1: story of your beads saying Scott, because that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Literally dreams coming and we're just manifesting it, you know.
Speaker 1: Scott dissac. If you're listening, please post on your Instagram
Speaker 1: story with Karn's beads because they're really cool and they're
Speaker 1: they're very nice, and of course, everybody go check out
Speaker 1: Karin's brand new podcast, Karin Saves Us. All Um, you
Speaker 1: were incredibly sweet and entertaining and I wish nothing but
Speaker 1: the best for you, Krine. Thank you so much. Thank
Speaker 1: you Dean and Jared for having me. It's always so
Speaker 1: good to talk to you guys and catch up, so
Speaker 1: I'm really thankful, love you guys. Well that'll do it
Speaker 1: for this week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Dean,
Speaker 1: You're the best, and uh, why should the people tune
Speaker 1: in next week Dean, because we might just suck a
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