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Speaker 1: December in transfer portal season. Because I'm just strolling through

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Speaker 1: December fourteenth, the year of our Lord. Twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into the show. Yes, yes, yes, friends,

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Speaker 1: the SEC finally has he'd take heeded of, headed take

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Speaker 1: but they had. It was beautiful, a two hour, just

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, what are some takeaways. I know

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Speaker 1: schedules that were beefed up, right, Texas is in here,

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Speaker 1: remember something. We got an expanded playoff coming up this

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Speaker 1: It reads as follows, Hey, Josh and the Pate State team.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this year, my wife, oldest son and I traveled

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Speaker 1: from Colorado to Mobile, Alabama for a memorial service celebrating

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Speaker 1: my mother in law. She was a wonderful lady and

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Speaker 1: had lived with us off and on over the past

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Speaker 1: forty years. She loved Bear Bryant and was a master gardener,

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Speaker 1: just like your mem We're a college football family. My

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Speaker 1: wife and I are both Bama alumni Coach Bryant Era,

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Speaker 1: my boys and I are loyal listeners and subscribers. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we're helping my daughter and this is important. Pay attention.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are going through this.

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Speaker 1: We're helping my daughter convert her husband from the NFL

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Speaker 1: to the college game. He's a bit casual, but we

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Speaker 1: still love him. I personally take credit for many of

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Speaker 1: your Colorado subscribers. Here's where Robber meets the road, folks.

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Speaker 1: My wife has heard all about Late Kick and Pate State,

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Speaker 1: so she did not question our first stop of our

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Speaker 1: trip to Academy Sports and Outdoors. It was everything we

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Speaker 1: hoped for. Super friendly people. They have everything we need

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Speaker 1: in life. Gladly spent a fair amount of money. Some

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Speaker 1: photos of that blessed event are attached. I have a

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Speaker 1: paid state material family, and we'd be grateful to display

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Speaker 1: a chalice of supremacy in our home during Bama's run

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Speaker 1: to another championship. Thanks for considering your friends in Colorado, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. I need one thing from you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I need you to email me your shipping address because

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Speaker 1: a special Christmas chalice of supremacy is on the way.

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Speaker 1: Notice this. You see what he has there if you're

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Speaker 1: listening on podcast, that is big lead chew. I told

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Speaker 1: you one of the hallmarks of a Paate state member

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Speaker 1: going to shop at Academy is they grabbed the big

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Speaker 1: lead chew in the checkout line. I don't even care

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Speaker 1: if you don't like gum, just ceremonially you got to

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Speaker 1: send me that chipping address and I'll get a chalice

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Speaker 1: sent out to you. Well, Jesse will handle it, but

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Speaker 1: got one more thing to get to and then Kublick

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Speaker 1: is just going to barge in here. But this is

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Speaker 1: an important topic. Let me take a sit from the chalice.

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Speaker 1: This could go a number of different ways. I asked, Hm,

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Speaker 1: there goes to the whale, Soum, I asked you at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, do you feel like college

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Speaker 1: football is in a healthy place for now? All right,

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, Colin, here's your endpoint. Todd

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Speaker 1: in college football is broken, how healthy do you think

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Speaker 1: the sport is overall? I don't think it's healthy at all, Todd.

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Speaker 1: But let me start by saying this. I love college football, man,

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Speaker 1: there is no second sport for me. I love college football,

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Speaker 1: have since the day I was born, will until the

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Speaker 1: day I die. I know, sometimes lately it's sounded like

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Speaker 1: I'm focusing on the negative aspects and I sound negative

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Speaker 1: towards the sport. No, no, no, it's not that at all,

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Speaker 1: and I apologize if it does come off that way.

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Speaker 1: It's just that I love the sport. I hate some

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Speaker 1: of the hands that are on the sport right now.

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Speaker 1: If that makes any sense to you. You can have

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Speaker 1: and so that's how I and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of you feel about college football. So no, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the sport's healthy right now. But there are mixed

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Speaker 1: opinions on this. There's some folks who think the sport's

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Speaker 1: never been in a better place. And they've got their

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Speaker 1: own criteria, they've got their own tools for measurement they use.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you, what do you go to, Todd anyone else,

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Speaker 1: what do you go to if you want to answer

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Speaker 1: the question is your sport healthy? So I think you

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Speaker 1: got some common sense stuff, and then you've got some

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Speaker 1: things right in your face. Common sense, okay, common sense

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Speaker 1: has me look at college football right now and look

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Speaker 1: at how big a disaster of the calendar is, how

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Speaker 1: crazy NIL and the portal have overlapped to create something

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Speaker 1: that's unsustainable totally, and how coaches are burning out, staffers

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Speaker 1: are burning out, conferences have crumbled just in the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years because of a lot of greed that

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Speaker 1: has no business in the room. It never had to happen.

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Speaker 1: Common sense has me look at that and say this

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Speaker 1: isn't healthy, This isn't what college football should be. But

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Speaker 1: then someone else may walk in and say, hey, but

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Speaker 1: ratings are good. TV ratings are good, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think that that is anywhere close to the top of

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Speaker 1: the list of metrics that should be used to gauge

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Speaker 1: the health of anything, especially an entire sport. First off,

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Speaker 1: thing about TV ratings is there are thirty seven different

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Speaker 1: variables in play that really have nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: college football that go into determining year over year ratings.

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Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of other things that are

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Speaker 1: very very intricately woven into that process and that language

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Speaker 1: that most people who talk TV ratings don't even know

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Speaker 1: how to speak. But let's just say that ratings are

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Speaker 1: good because they are. They are right when they say

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Speaker 1: TV ratings are really good and viewer traffic is up

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Speaker 1: for college football right now. Using current TV ratings to

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Speaker 1: suggest that college football is healthy is the same thing

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Speaker 1: is coming to me and saying, well, that person can't

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Speaker 1: have a terminal illness. They look great, they look phenomenal. Well,

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Speaker 1: you could have two things true at the same time. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that anything terminal, no terminal blow, no poison,

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Speaker 1: has been permanently injected into college football. But if I'm

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Speaker 1: going to suggest that the sport's not in a healthy

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Speaker 1: place right now, and all you have to come back

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Speaker 1: at me with is well, TV ratings are up, dude,

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Speaker 1: those things are so detached from each other. There is

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Speaker 1: no reputable person in my industry, you know, at the

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Speaker 1: behind the curtain up the latter several runs executive level,

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Speaker 1: who will say, yeah, the first thing we go to

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Speaker 1: let me put it to you like this. Let's just

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Speaker 1: say that college football's leaders, and trust me, I use

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Speaker 1: that term very loosely. Let's just say college football's leaders

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Speaker 1: met in a room two months ago in October and

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Speaker 1: made fifteen of the most catastrophic decisions they could ever

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Speaker 1: make about the sport. Do you think the SEC Championship

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Speaker 1: game would have done any less of a number on TV?

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Speaker 1: Of course it wouldn't have. Now the sport would have

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Speaker 1: been dealt to death blow. Unbeknownst to you and me.

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Speaker 1: The ratings would have been fine, cause ratings are well

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Speaker 1: downstream of decision making. You make a bad decision today,

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Speaker 1: you may not reap the side effects for five years,

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Speaker 1: but it will happen, and you will reap negative side

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Speaker 1: effects from some of the bad decision making that's happened

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Speaker 1: already in our sport, and if it continues to happen,

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Speaker 1: it'll be pretty prolonged. That's why I think self governance

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Speaker 1: is the answer. At the conference level, I think self

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Speaker 1: governance is the answer. Hey, you don't like the way

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal's working right now, Listen. I'm a believer

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Speaker 1: that from this point moving forward, this is the only answer.

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Speaker 1: You can go back in time and say I wish

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Speaker 1: we could have done this or that different. From this

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Speaker 1: point moving forward, self governance is going to be the answer.

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Speaker 1: Self governance. When I say that, I mean this is conferences,

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Speaker 1: conferences who are able to sign their own media rights deal,

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Speaker 1: big ten sec chief among them going to their players

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Speaker 1: and entering into whatever kind of agreement it has to be.

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Speaker 1: If it's employment, we'll just call it employment and saying

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Speaker 1: this ain't gonna fly anymore. And we got billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars over here in media rights money. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: your cut of it, but you're also gonna sign a contract.

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Speaker 1: And when you commit to Auburn, you're locked into Auburn

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Speaker 1: for a minimum baseline number of years. There is not

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Speaker 1: going to be free agency every year. We're gonna reconstruct

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Speaker 1: this calendar because we're in charge of it now. We're

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Speaker 1: also not gonna treat the academic calendar as something we

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Speaker 1: can kind of hide behind academic calendar. Forget the academic calendar.

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Speaker 1: It's not been about that for a long time. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: this is all gonna happen. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: two years away or twenty years away. That's where we're headed.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love that, but I can't go back

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Speaker 1: in time fifteen or twenty years and change the modus

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Speaker 1: operandi that a lot of folks back then had because

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Speaker 1: they never thought they would need to budge an inch

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Speaker 1: on stuff. Well, now you've been pushed off of your

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Speaker 1: perch and you don't have the ability to go back

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Speaker 1: in time. So self governance is going to be the answer.

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Speaker 1: And so I think I don't think that college football

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Speaker 1: has been dealt any kind of death blow. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot to love about the sport. I think in time,

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Speaker 1: we may look back, let's say five years from now,

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Speaker 1: and I think you may see that college football in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, twenty three was at its relative lowest

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Speaker 1: point when it comes to a lot of chaos and

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Speaker 1: lack of guardrails and controls. I think we'll get them

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Speaker 1: in the very near future. Doesn't mean that the bowl

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Speaker 1: season will ever be as pristine as it once was,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to have to come to grips with

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Speaker 1: employment status, maybe for players. But here's what I asked

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Speaker 1: someone last night who DMed me and said, Josh, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of being turned off by the sport. I get

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Speaker 1: those dms in December a lot. I get those dms

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Speaker 1: in transfer portal season, in other words, times when we're

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Speaker 1: not playing football. Because I asked that person the same

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Speaker 1: thing I always ask anyone who tells me they're thinking

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Speaker 1: about leaving the sport. Do Saturdays in the fall feel

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Speaker 1: any different for you? I go to a game every Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, third and two with five minutes to

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Speaker 1: go in the third quarter when it's a tie game

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Speaker 1: feels no different to me than it always has. It's

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Speaker 1: just how much of your attention do you choose to

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Speaker 1: give the off the field stuff that frankly doesn't impact

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Speaker 1: you or much of your enjoyment of the games in

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Speaker 1: the fall if you don't let it. That's my advice.

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Speaker 1: If you don't like what's going on, I may have

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Speaker 1: to give you some advice that runs counter to our

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Speaker 1: strategy here on the channel, and maybe time to just

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Speaker 1: cut the show off for a little while. When I

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Speaker 1: talk about things of this nature. Don't click on the

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Speaker 1: videos if that doesn't interest you, or as mean while

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Speaker 1: ways say, get your dabber down a little bit, don't

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Speaker 1: do it forever. You know, we want to keep the

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Speaker 1: lights on here. But self governance is largely what's gonna

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Speaker 1: solve that issue. And it's gonna take some forward thinkers

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Speaker 1: to solve that issue, and in short supply in college athletics.

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Speaker 1: But I think we'll get the right minds in the

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Speaker 1: room in due time. FanDuel has lines all over the

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Speaker 1: place for Bowl season. I, for example, half my eye

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Speaker 1: on a few of them. The Ramnutal Express is not done, people.

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Speaker 1: We had another fifty seven percent, not completion percentage. I'm

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Speaker 1: so used to saying completion percentage after saying percentage. But

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Speaker 1: we had a fifty seven percent year against the spread

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Speaker 1: again this year. But we're not done. That is a living,

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Speaker 1: breathing number. We could improve. I guess we could fall

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Speaker 1: short too, But I'm gonna have some bowl plays for you.

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Speaker 1: Fanduels the place to find them, and if you're curious,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is when the teams who have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really in recruiting, and we got to make the

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Speaker 1: So Hi, Like you have seen the new SEC schedule

717
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, I am thinking myself, this is

718
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: a death march for several of these teams. And I

719
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Speaker 1: am thinking that the modern day nine and three or

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Speaker 1: eight and four is a really good record. If Florida

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Speaker 1: went eight and four next year, I would just blindly

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Speaker 1: put him in the twelve team playoff probably. However, I'm

723
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Speaker 1: not so sure that the college football public's mentality is

724
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Speaker 1: going to adjust to correlate their expectation level with the

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Speaker 1: increased level of play that a lot of these teams

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Speaker 1: are going to have on field. And I just wonder

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Speaker 1: if expectations are going to be really detached from reality

728
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Speaker 1: for a while, because some of these schedules are insane,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk to you about that. And

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Speaker 1: then this question you posed on Twitter earlier today, I

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Speaker 1: want to get to that in a second, because I

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Speaker 1: could not disagree more with a lot of the answers

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Speaker 1: that you got. But first off, your takeaways from this

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Speaker 1: whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's the first thing that you said, a literal death

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Speaker 2: march for multiple teams.

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Speaker 1: Florida would be at the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: The only reason we're not saying about Georgia is because

739
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Speaker 2: we know they're going to have five stars all over

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Speaker 2: the place and Kirby's gonna have a really good football team,

741
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Speaker 2: or else we'd be saying the same thing about georgia

742
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Speaker 2: schedule that we're saying about Florida's schedule. I mean the

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Speaker 2: November that Florida's got I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 1: Josh to close out a season Georgia.

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Speaker 2: And Jacksonville at Texas lsu Ole, miss at home at

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Speaker 2: Florida Street.

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Speaker 1: Great, Googlely Mooughlly, Like, what is happening?

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how to George's got Clemson in

749
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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech to sort of sandwich their season. By the way,

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Speaker 2: they have to go to Alabama before they play Auburn,

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Speaker 2: and you know, then they got to play Mississippi State

752
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: before they go to Texas. That's all within a four

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Speaker 2: week span. It's it's bonkers, man like. And you look

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Speaker 2: at even with some of the teams that have forgiving schedules.

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Speaker 1: Auburn, for say, they don't leave Jorden Haare.

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Speaker 2: Stadium until October, but then they don't come back to

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Speaker 2: Jorden Haare Stadium until November the.

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Speaker 1: Second Yeah, I just saw that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Alabama. I feel like I think Alabama

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Speaker 2: got off pretty good in this deal. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like their schedule is too bad at all.

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Speaker 2: But they got to go to Norman the week before

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Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait to play back to back road game

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Speaker 1: the entire year. Hold up, I did I didn't get

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Speaker 1: this until just now. So Auburn has a five game

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00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: homestand and a three game homestand, and that's it is

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Speaker 1: just all the all the home games touch each other.

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Speaker 2: How about Georgia, they play three SEC teams at home.

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Speaker 2: Three Yeah, three Southeastern Conference games at home. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: I know how crazy that. Yeah, I know how crazy

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Speaker 1: Kirby is about that game being in Jacksonville. Hey, let

773
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Speaker 1: me just float a theory to you. Okay, So this

774
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Speaker 1: is where I always hate the way that, well most

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Speaker 1: are ranked. This is why I choose power ratings in

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Speaker 1: the JP pole. So let's just say that Florida's next

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Speaker 1: year schedule it feature teams that were the exact same

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Speaker 1: caliber that they were this year, just for the sake

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Speaker 1: of argument. So, if you're playing Georgia, Texas, LSU, Ole, Miss,

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Speaker 1: and Florida State to end your season, that means you're

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Speaker 1: playing five top ten caliber teams in a row. Theoretically,

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Speaker 1: just in a twelve team playoff era, Theoretically, if you're

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Speaker 1: would expect you to go zero to five against that stretch.

786
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Speaker 1: You and I both know a five loss team is

787
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Speaker 1: not making that playoff, and sure enough, the same people

788
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Speaker 1: who demand strength of schedule will be like this, and

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Speaker 1: you got some clowns out there saying that's not enough,

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Speaker 1: they should play nine conference games. Those same people who

791
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792
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Speaker 1: there in December screaming they can't be in. They've got

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Speaker 1: four losses. They've got five losses, and that, my friend,

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Speaker 1: as they would say in pro wrestling, is where the

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Speaker 1: rub is for me. That's what I hate. Now.

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Speaker 2: You're only as good as your schedule, right and as

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Speaker 2: you just stated, the last month of the seaton, that

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Speaker 2: would be five playoff teams. Yeah, we're in a twelve

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Speaker 2: team playoff right now. All five of those teams Georgia, Texas, LSU,

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss, Florida State. I mean, hell, one of them's in.

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Speaker 2: Two of them easily could have been in this year.

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00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: You and Ole Miss would be in a twelve team

803
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Speaker 2: playoffs this year, so, I mean, maybe not LSU, but

804
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: they'd be deleast knocking on the door. It's insane to

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00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: think about what it is and then just sprinkle in

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Speaker 2: by the Late Miami and Central Florida two teams are

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Speaker 2: going to.

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Speaker 1: Have a little bit extra, probably as.

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Speaker 2: Talented, maybe more talented than the Florida team. We don't

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Speaker 2: know exactly what it's going to look like based on

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Speaker 2: portaland recruiting, but they're going to be close as far

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Speaker 2: as talent's concerned, and have a little bit extra coming

813
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Speaker 2: to town as far as what they want to do

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Speaker 2: and how they want to play you. So, I mean

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Speaker 2: even just some of the emotional aspects of what they're

816
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Speaker 2: going to get in their schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's insane.

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Speaker 2: Now, I will say this one last takeaway for you,

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Speaker 2: and I believe I heard you say one time that

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Speaker 2: landing and you don't want any turbulence on the landing.

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Speaker 2: Texas is about to get the smoothest landing into a

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Speaker 2: new conference that maybe we have ever seen. Now I

824
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Speaker 2: know they play at in Michigan week two, and that

825
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Speaker 2: is going to be incredible because that is as big

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Speaker 2: of a helmet game as you're ever going to get,

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Speaker 2: as big of a logo game as you will ever

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Speaker 2: see in college football from a non con perspective. But

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Speaker 2: I want you to just peek down that schedule and

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Speaker 2: tell me when you feel like they will truly be

831
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Speaker 2: indoctrinated to the SEC. When do you think Texas is

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Speaker 2: truly going to feel it? When are they going to

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Speaker 2: feel like they're in the Southeastern Conference? And I want

834
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Speaker 2: to hear the date on when you think that takes place.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it happened. I know what you're

836
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Speaker 1: getting at. It doesn't really happen because they're bye weeks

837
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Speaker 1: and their Tier three opponents are very fortuitously placed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've got the Ou game. They've always played OU Georgia

839
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Speaker 1: back to back is a nightmare. But you've got Georgia

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Speaker 1: coming to Austin and also, I mean Georgia does that

841
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Speaker 1: for the first time as well, So it's not like

842
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Speaker 1: it's easy on once, not hard than the other. But

843
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Speaker 1: you get Vandy after you play OU Georgia, and then

844
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Speaker 1: you got another bye week, and I think it's at

845
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Speaker 1: the end of the season. You know they I would

846
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Speaker 1: normally look at Florida, but you're playing them at home.

847
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Speaker 1: You get Arkansas and Fayettville. That's a game. As you know,

848
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Speaker 1: the last time they went up there, that was a

849
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Speaker 1: total nightmare. For them, But I mean, what are we

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Speaker 1: really talking about here, Like you could be going to LSU,

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Speaker 1: so be glad that you're playing Arkansas unless there's a

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Speaker 1: magical rebound and then it's Kentucky and Texas A and M.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they have that, So I get

854
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: the point for it's fair that you said they might

855
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: not even have it.

856
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna go November sixteenth, and yes they've been

857
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: there in recent memory, so maybe.

858
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: That offsets it and helps it a little bit.

859
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: But you get the woopig Suey, you get the giant

860
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: hog over on the sideline in the cage like it's

861
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: gonna be freezing cold. It's not gonna be comfortable. The

862
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: grass is gonna be dead. It's gonna feel like you're

863
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: laying it on pavement when you're getting tackled. And they'll

864
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: be loud, they'll be obnoxious.

865
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: That place is gonna be raucous.

866
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people that when you

867
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: see oh Donald dw razorback stadium, they they don't say

868
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough or man, we can't. We better

869
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: go in there and be on our a game. We

870
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: won't get a w You and I know it is.

871
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: It's one of the most difficult places to play that nobody.

872
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: Talks about in the league. So either way they don't

873
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: get it.

874
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: Or it's not until November the sixteenth, because unless you're

875
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: scared of cranes, it's not gonna be October twenty six

876
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: and you know, you get Georgia and Florida at home.

877
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: So I just think it's it's pretty it's wild to

878
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: think about Texas coming into the big bad SEC and

879
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: they don't get the full SEC experience until the middle

880
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: of November.

881
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: We apologize for trying to better ourselves up here. Okay,

882
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: we apologize for building.

883
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: It's coming, but it's just this is not going to

884
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: be the year.

885
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't we don't rest on art.

886
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: It'll be cool when it's done. But yeah, we've got

887
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: a scoreboard hanging from.

888
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cherry Pickert half fun in your trailer locker room. Hey,

889
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: there is one thing I just noticed. There is one thing. Okay, Now,

890
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops has pulled a shocker or two in the past.

891
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: Texas has that trip to Arkansas and then they have

892
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: a trip to College Station sandwiched between that. If you

893
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: get through the trip to Arkansas and you're getting ready

894
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: for a trip to College Station is Kentucky, and Kentucky

895
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: has a bye week and Murray State leading up to

896
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: their their little ambush trip into Texas. This maybe that's it.

897
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're trying to brought Vandergriff experiment in

898
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: Lexington this year, so maybe that's it. Well, this was

899
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: four years ago, Texas.

900
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: I would say, Kentucky will come in there and they'll

901
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: beat you up. They welcome a fistfight, They'll rough you

902
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: up a little bit. Better be on your a game physically.

903
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 2: But this Texas team, especially with what we've seen in

904
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: up front, I mean, Kevin Bank's gonna be a first

905
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: round draft pick.

906
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: We know it's dev Andre Sweats been this year.

907
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't look at it that way

908
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: any longer. I could have four six years ago, but

909
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: not now. But still, you're right, you got to go

910
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: to Fayeville and back. If that's a scary one. You're

911
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: already looking ahead to go into College Station for the

912
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: first time in however many years, and you can't sleep

913
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: walk through Kentucky. And we still have to see how

914
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: Vandergriff's gonna work out with Liam Cohen. What they're gonna

915
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: be at running back, they'll be dynamic at receivers. That

916
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: offensive linem really going to be better. Defense will be

917
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: fine under Brad White. But that's not one that you

918
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: can sleepwalk through for sure. But I just my first

919
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: thought was that full SEC experience of going to hostile territory,

920
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: seeing and hearing things that you didn't know about, that

921
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: you haven't heard that make life a little bit more

922
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: difficult to play. And I think November sixteenth will be it,

923
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: and they just happen to go through eighty five percent

924
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: of their schedule before they'll get it.

925
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Now, you know, any Texas fan worth his or her

926
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: salt is watching this saying, hey, that trip to Tuscaloose,

927
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: HA didn't hurt us all too much this year. That's

928
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: going to be in the comments, Like, if you want

929
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: to proactively respond to that, to that reaction, it'll be

930
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: in the comments.

931
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: Cool, and you weren't in the SEC, so we didn't

932
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: really give a damn about when you were going to

933
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: get the full SEC experience by being a big twelve team.

934
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: What we're saying now is you're going into the SEC

935
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: and everyone just expected all these venues, all these tough places,

936
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: to go play, and you got to go play in

937
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: front of a construction site on October the twenty sixth,

938
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: and then you go to Fayettville November the sixteenth.

939
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: So the point there was.

940
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: That's the first time you're going to be delivered that

941
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: you have a similar team next year as.

942
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: You do this year. You shouldn't have to worry.

943
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: About the team on the field, and you should be

944
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: able to offset some of the distractions and things that

945
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: make like a little bit more difficult because you'll probably

946
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that's going to be vying for the

947
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: number one overall pick at that point in time, So

948
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: you should be okay.

949
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you put on Twitter a little while before.

950
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: We's like another guy who show I've never been on

951
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: that takes things that I say and then twist them

952
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: up to try to get certain fan bases rouled up.

953
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate your ruse here, but I feel like I

954
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: know where you're going trying to turn the Texas fans.

955
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: That gets me before they come into the league. That

956
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like me. I just think, I mean, I

957
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: just think that you think that the conference ends west

958
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: of the Mississippi, and all of a sudden it's a

959
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: new day, my friend. You're gonna have to venture out

960
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. You're gonna have to understand. You have

961
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: to understand. This means more than oh there's a foreigner

962
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: reunion concert at Legacy Arena, like this actually stands for

963
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Hookham horns. I've made the mistake of doing that already,

964
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: So don't do that. Don't do that. So you went

965
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: on the old Socials and you put out a tweet

966
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: a little while ago. I know where you're going with this.

967
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, but a lot of people didn't,

968
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: and they're just wrong. So said, is anyone looking at

969
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: these SEC schedules and thinking, oh man, they need a

970
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: ninth conference game? Now? What you thought you were doing,

971
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: which I agree with, is making a good point. Your

972
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: point was these are gauntlets already. There's no way you

973
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: could possibly look at this and say they need a

974
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: ninth game on that schedule, and then sure enough come

975
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: the clapping seals. Of course, we wont a ninth conference game.

976
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: It drives me up the wall over the cliff because

977
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: you know my thoughts on this. The same people who

978
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: scream you need to play a ninth conference game are

979
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: the ones in December like I said, who would be

980
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: criticizing you because half of the conference lost another game?

981
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: And I know, pac twelve folks rest in peace are

982
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: out there saying, well, we've done it all along. I know, man,

983
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: And up until about five minutes ago, I couldn't have

984
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: cared less about you playing another Arizona state or another

985
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: Oregon state or another Washington state. That's a little bit different, man,

986
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: then tacking on on extra South Carolina or AMM or

987
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Auburn at the end of the day. And and you

988
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: know as well as I do, even after they add

989
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: the ninth conference game. I mean Florida. Florida is legitimately

990
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: playing maybe the toughest back half of the schedule I've

991
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: ever seen. But they got Samford early in the year.

992
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: And someone out there is gonna say, these SEC teams,

993
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: they can't help themselves fattening up on those cupcakes. It's like, brother,

994
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: yes there's a cupcake here. There are nine tomahawk filets

995
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: over there that we've got a face. Are you high?

996
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: You know you're intellectually dishonest, purposefully so. Were you surprised

997
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: by the reactions to this tweet? Would you like to

998
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: talk now?

999
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: I was surprised by some of the people who I

1000
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: deem as college football intelligent and non casuals, who just

1001
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: responded yes, saying that they did look at the schedule.

1002
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Once again, think about how the question was phrased you

1003
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: said it. Did anyone look at.

1004
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: These schedules and say, should it go on A nine?

1005
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. How are we not at nine

1006
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: conference games here? No one looked at these schedules and said,

1007
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: jam another one in there, get another one in. Nobody did.

1008
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 2: Missouri would probably be the lightest one. And even there,

1009
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: you're looking at the teams that they play in conference

1010
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: and saying, I don't know if you really want another

1011
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: one of those. Like I said, if it wasn't Georgia,

1012
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: we'd be saying the exact same thing that we say about.

1013
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: Florida's schedule with what they have to go play.

1014
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: There are portions of the Auburn schedule that you look at,

1015
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: even the Alabama schedule, you look at the teams that

1016
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: they have to play, and you don't just say to yourself,

1017
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: please get another game in there, Please get another game, which,

1018
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm not going to put down Chris

1019
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Hatcher's Sandford offense getting there running the traditional air raid

1020
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: and how difficult that's going to be.

1021
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: Other people can, but.

1022
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: It's the same thing this year, Josh, when we were

1023
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: trying to talk about strength to schedule and you would

1024
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 2: mention an LSU and people would point out the losses,

1025
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: or you would mention in Arizona and people would point

1026
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: out the losses. But what other people don't just look

1027
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: at the entire picture is the aspects of those teams

1028
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: and from a matchup perspective, how difficult they can be

1029
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: at certain points in time. Look at the Miami and

1030
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: the ACC Like, no one's gonna give a lot of

1031
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: people a ton of credit for that win this year because,

1032
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: like you said, they're not undefeated or one loss, so

1033
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: therefore they don't count as a team that should really

1034
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: be difficult on your schedule. But they can obviously get

1035
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: after you upfront. They got some talent on the perimeter,

1036
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: even though the offensive line was pretty young, and they're

1037
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: difficult to deal with. So I just there's no way

1038
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: that I looked at what I love to see it.

1039
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1040
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: Do I want them to go to nine games? Yes,

1041
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: I don't like let this weekend. I've been against it

1042
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: for years, but I didn't look at these schedules and

1043
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: immediately say where's the beef? I go win these commercials?

1044
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: Like that wasn't what happened when I took a gander

1045
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: at all of these schedules. If for twenty twenty four

1046
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: in the Southeastern Conference, Like, if you're.

1047
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: Willing, I'm going to sing a lot tu lane just

1048
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: because if if you're willing to look at potentially a

1049
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: team going eight and four or nine and three against

1050
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: one of these schedules and put them in over on

1051
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: eleven and one hypothetical two lane, if you're the person

1052
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: who's willing to do that, I got no problem with

1053
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: you telling me you want nine conference games. What I'm

1054
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: not gonna do is listen to the crowd who bangs

1055
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: the nine conference game drum in August, who in December says,

1056
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: well you are what your record says you are. I mean,

1057
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: we've got to honor records. Shouldn't the games on the

1058
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: field matter? And I'm like, yeah, shouldn't they? Are you

1059
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: listening to the question you're asking, it drives me up

1060
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: a wall.

1061
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: Well, similar this year you look at Missouri schedule, nobody

1062
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: would ever bring up Kansas State and say that's a

1063
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: good win from Missouri. You look at old mischedule and

1064
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: I know the quarterback was out, but still going to

1065
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: two Lane, that's a good win. I'm not saying put

1066
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: Lane in the Hall of Fame because he got that win,

1067
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: but that's a solid win. And those are the ones

1068
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: I think that you're referencing that people just are basically

1069
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: going to discount. They're not going to bring those up

1070
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: and say, hey man, that one wasn't easy, either one

1071
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: where you played it or the contrast of style that

1072
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: you had to face for just the fact that they're

1073
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: a pretty good football team.

1074
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: So that's I'm with you. Why were you an so

1075
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: right about Alabama? If someone watched us in August, listen

1076
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: to what we forecasted for that team, which was centered

1077
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: around dominant offensive line play, and then they, I don't know,

1078
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: went on a vacation for three months and they came

1079
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: back just in time to watch the SEC title game.

1080
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: They probably watched that game and said, Wow, Kublick or

1081
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: whoever that guy is with the podcast that paid has

1082
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: on his show, those dudes were right. Look at them

1083
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: blowing Georgia off the ball. Now, I wouldn't tell this

1084
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: person that, but I think you and I and the

1085
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: rest of the audience know took a little while to

1086
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: get up to speed. They finally got up to speed,

1087
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: so we were both trashed and praised for what we

1088
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: expected from that unit. How did they finally get there

1089
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: to that level of play? And why did it take

1090
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: so long?

1091
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: Trashed and praised? Where was the praise I did have

1092
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: not familiar with.

1093
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: It's mostly been via text via family so far. Oh

1094
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: gotcha right?

1095
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: That would be fun that if my family members cared

1096
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: enough about my college football takes that they texted me

1097
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: to tell me that.

1098
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: I was right. I would appreciate that.

1099
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: And then to discount even further what you're saying. A

1100
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: lot of the folks after the facts, When I have

1101
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: gone out of my way to show visibly how good

1102
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: of a game that offensive line had, it's then been

1103
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: discounted by average two point yards to carry. How can

1104
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: you say they were dominant? Well, when I see defensive

1105
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: tackles going through the air backwards, I'm going to label

1106
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: that as dominant.

1107
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: That's usually at the top of my list.

1108
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: So when I see double teams knocking guys two gaps

1109
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: over and the running back has plenty of space to

1110
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: be able to get through. And it's not as his

1111
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: faulty doesn't make a second level defender miss. I'm going

1112
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: to probably label that as dominant.

1113
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: But the reason why it.

1114
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: Took so long was the offense and you had a

1115
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator with a new style of quarterback, not

1116
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: just a new quarterback, but a new style of quarterback

1117
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: that was going to take some figuring out. There was

1118
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: going to be a feeling out process. You didn't really

1119
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: know what you had on your hands once you were

1120
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: going to turn it all over to him. And I

1121
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: would imagine, haven't had this conversation with Nick Saban or

1122
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: Tommy Reich Josh, but I would imagine, based on what

1123
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: happened in the A and M game last year and

1124
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 2: what I have been told was happening in some scrimmages.

1125
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: There was probably some nerves that were on red alert about.

1126
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: Some potential turnover issues and wanting to try to avoid those.

1127
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: So what do you do.

1128
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: You simplify, You make things easy. Well, the easier you

1129
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: make things on your guys, the easier you become to defend.

1130
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: And then just there was point blank there were things

1131
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: that were changed and altered throughout the course of the season.

1132
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: Tommy reach began adding more motions. He began in adding

1133
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: more movement pre and post snap shifts, different personnel gribys.

1134
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: If you watch that Georgia game again, guess who was

1135
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: one of the players that had his best.

1136
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: Game in an Alabama uniform. Once again, that nobody's going

1137
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: to tell you about. I mean number forty five, Robby Oots. Well,

1138
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: he hadn't been a mainstay for the first four or

1139
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: five games of the year because they probably didn't think

1140
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: they were going to need him to be a guy

1141
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: who operated in Sometimes a quarterback run heavy offense, you

1142
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: can add a gap and you can add a blocker.

1143
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: I'd probably prefer for that blocker to be a good

1144
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: blocker as opposed to someone who has no interest in blocking.

1145
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: So therefore their personnel groupings changed and more. Throughout the

1146
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: course of the season. We began to see some quarterback counter.

1147
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, for you Playboy play guys out there,

1148
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: every time the.

1149
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: Quarterback keeps the ball after a snap in runs, it's

1150
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,479
Speaker 2: not quarterback power. Every single time we saw quarterback counter,

1151
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: we saw quarterback power. We saw quarterback inside zone. So

1152
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Tommy Reese figured out who his offense was. They found

1153
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: an identity as I mean, look at weeks, what was

1154
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: that like three through five? You and I Saturren talked

1155
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: about it. They were a shot play offense. They were

1156
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: a handoff handoff, handoff Jamil Milroe, throw the ball deep

1157
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: offense for about three or four weeks, that's what they were.

1158
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: And they knew they weren't going to be able to

1159
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: live that way forever. But they got away with it to.

1160
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: A certain extent.

1161
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: They let the offensive line rip a little bit, be

1162
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: able to feel it out, have the understanding, the freshman

1163
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: got a little bit more comfortable, and then next thing

1164
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, they began to look like a dominant group

1165
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: later in the season.

1166
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Now. Also, also, you know that Pete Golding took immense

1167
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: criticism from Alabama folks when he was there. You sort

1168
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: of defended Pete Golding. You didn't say he's the greatest

1169
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: to ever coach of the defensive side of the ball,

1170
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: but you said the criticism's probably a little overblown. Having

1171
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: said that, I don't think anyone can watch Alabama this

1172
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: year and deny that there's a different level of play

1173
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: up there. So how do you assess what's happened over

1174
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball.

1175
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: Well for number one, I think they've calmed down a

1176
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: little bit, and Pete is just hyper aggressive.

1177
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: It's who he is.

1178
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he'll talk to him for fifteen seconds and

1179
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: he's like the micro machines man when he talks to you,

1180
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: like you're gonna miss like fourteen out of the twenty

1181
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: eight words that.

1182
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: He spits out. He's awesome. He's great. He's one of

1183
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: my most enjoyable human beings to talk football with. But

1184
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: he's a lot and he coaches his defense that way.

1185
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: It's some sort of movement, slant, stunt shift blitz on

1186
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: every play.

1187
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: It just is. And so I think what happened was

1188
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Steele.

1189
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: And I think the influence of Travaris Robinson's helped out

1190
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: a lot as well, because I think Nick Sabans allowed

1191
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: him to have a louder and some other folks have

1192
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: had when discussing the defense and what is he at

1193
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: his core? He's a defensive back. He probably wants to

1194
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: protect that group. We don't have to blitz every play.

1195
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: It makes it a little bit easier on your safeties

1196
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: and corners. So let's rely on our guys up front

1197
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: to be able to be problematic what Alabama basically has

1198
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: done forever under Nick Say, but now they don't have

1199
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: the same guys inside.

1200
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: They're not as there is no Jonathan Allen.

1201
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: On this team, There's no Quinn Williams on this team,

1202
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: but they probably have the best bookend of edge rushers

1203
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: that he's ever had since he's been at Alabama. So

1204
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: they realized, I think pretty early on, we should be

1205
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: able to get home with four, even though we might

1206
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: not dominate inside. If we can push you into situations

1207
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: where you have to throw the ball, be it one

1208
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: we're scoring points or two we're making you work your

1209
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: way down the field, and at some point in time

1210
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: that offensive coordinator is going to get greedy. That's advantaged us.

1211
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: So I think what happened was the defense calmed down

1212
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: a little bit and said, we've got players, We've got talent.

1213
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: We don't need to go overboard scheming things up. Just

1214
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: let them play ball. Lawson this year, I mean, how

1215
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: many times is Deyontay Lawson blitzed It's it's no more

1216
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: than what you would see from any averaged inside linebacker.

1217
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Across college football.

1218
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: But if you compared it to what the old Miss

1219
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: linebackers have done, it will probably twenty thirty forty percent

1220
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 2: less and what Alabama's had done the last few years.

1221
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: So I think the main thing, Josh is they just

1222
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: calmed down and they're really good in the secondary. Terry

1223
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: on Arnold coming into his own has been massive. That

1224
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: has helped that group out tremendously. Having a Malachi More

1225
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: that can play every position they have on the back end,

1226
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: be it star, Nickel, corner, safety, free boundary, he can

1227
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: do all of it. And t Robbs told me that,

1228
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: like he knows everything so well, we can put him anywhere.

1229
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: And I think also look.

1230
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: At the SEC champions again, there's something that a lot

1231
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: of people would talk about those transfers.

1232
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: That they got that some people laughed at.

1233
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: Some people said, Amos Louisiana, we didn't even offer him here.

1234
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 2: Some people looked at Jalen Key at UAB and said

1235
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: a box safety to get the Caleb downs kid coming in,

1236
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: why do you need him?

1237
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: Well?

1238
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: Guess who both made plays late in that SEC Championship

1239
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: game after Kool A McKinstry went down. It was Trey

1240
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: a Musk and it was Jalen Key. So those that

1241
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: depth became really valuable for that team as well, and

1242
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: having it on the back end is just something you

1243
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: have to have in today's college football.

1244
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: All right, last thing here totally shifting gears, I guess

1245
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: kind of. So we got the whole Malik Murphy opt

1246
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: out thing happening at Texas, and it's obvious kid doesn't

1247
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: want to do it right now, but the way our

1248
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: calendar is so backward structured, kind of has to do

1249
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: it if he's going to leave. And I've I've got

1250
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: coaches complaining, and everyone behind the scenes in the game

1251
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: is complaining, and it's obvious the calendar's broken and a

1252
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: lot's wrong with the structure of the sport. However, I

1253
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: got folks with five hundred followers on Twitter trying to

1254
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: scream at me, no, the sport's never been better, and

1255
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: their evidence is TV ratings are up, which I've always

1256
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: thought is one of the most flawed indicators of health

1257
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: of sport that there is. I mean, television success has

1258
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: always been well downstream of the health of any entity,

1259
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: sports included, and a football included. So forget about TV

1260
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: numbers for a second. Most people who speak about them

1261
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: aren't fluid in them anyway. When you look at and

1262
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: you talk to folks around the country and you use

1263
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: your own observation. How do you gage health of college

1264
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: football right now?

1265
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: I think the health Oh see, that's a very interesting question, Josh,

1266
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: because I could answer it multiple ways, and it goes

1267
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: along with what you were talking about with TV ratings,

1268
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: and I think part of that is as you would

1269
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: reference casuals or people who aren't die hards, maybe coming

1270
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: into it or wanting to check it out or want

1271
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: to see what it's about the calendar that you and

1272
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: I are so stressed about, and that as driving coaches

1273
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: away from this sport. I'll share something with you on

1274
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: that here in just a moment that is actually helping

1275
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: the popularity so to speak. Now, as you just said,

1276
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: popularity doesn't always mean that something is healthy or viable

1277
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: or sustainable, and that's I think sustainability may be the

1278
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: word that's probably best used to ask where college football

1279
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: is right now? Is this model sustainable? No, I don't

1280
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: believe that it is. It's just going to become too complicated,

1281
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: it's going to become too blurry, and it's going to

1282
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: drive a lot of people away.

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: And this is where I'll share that with you. I

1284
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: have spoken to four or five coaches who I adore.

1285
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: Who I think are amazing, who I don't want to

1286
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: leave college football because of the kind of teachers and

1287
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: educators and human beings they are. I want them in

1288
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 2: those facilities for these young men. Have told me point blank,

1289
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm not using this on my show,

1290
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: by the way, but I'll give it to you. I

1291
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be doing this much longer. Yep, plain and simple.

1292
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: Just and it's not hey, I'm not sure how long

1293
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: I can do.

1294
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: This, or hey, this is hard. It's literally like whatever.

1295
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: It is, financial retirement, money in the bank, whatever, that

1296
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: finding an NFL job, That line in the sand has

1297
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: been drawn, and they might not know exactly how far

1298
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: away it is, but when they do get to it,

1299
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 2: it's over.

1300
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: They're out, they're done.

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: And I know nobody out there feel sorry for them

1302
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: because O line coaches make eight hundred thousand a year

1303
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: and coordinators are making two million.

1304
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: I get it. But there's also there has to be

1305
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: a little bit of a realization. You hear Lane Kiffen

1306
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: continue to talk about free agency, and you guys want

1307
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 3: to say that and say they should have this freedom,

1308
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: but in real free agency, guys just can't pick up

1309
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: and go, you know, guys can't go into free agency

1310
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: in the NFL or the NBA.

1311
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,959
Speaker 1: And the GM gets a text about it and says, oh.

1312
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: Wait, like how Dame limerge and Dame lillerg And he's like,

1313
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: in the portal, he's just inter free agency and he'd

1314
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: have to tell us, like, we're not contractually obligated to

1315
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: any of that. So there's just part of it that's nonsensical.

1316
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: And like you said, with the calendar early signing day

1317
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: when the portal opens and closes as opposed to and

1318
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: they try to do it academically, but let's be real,

1319
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: we used to be very stringent with how the academic

1320
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: calendar met with the athletic calendar. I know this because

1321
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: I've lived and breathed going to the SEC Championship game,

1322
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: playing in Bowl games. I've been there, and the academic

1323
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: portion of it had to be tied in to when

1324
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: things started it ended. That's not real anymore. That's not

1325
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: something that has been taken in consideration or try to

1326
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: be moved around or scheduled around. It's just foot on

1327
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: the gas. Take care of your classes online somewhere. Nobody

1328
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: gives a rip what's happening?

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Speaker 1: So it's it's tough. Man. I don't know. I have

1330
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: told multiple coaches. I don't know how you guys do it.

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: I really don't, because, like you looka what's happening at

1332
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: Oklahoma right now? At one position one one position the

1333
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: offensive line. You got two guys going to the NFL,

1334
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: and I mean I think I've lost count like five

1335
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: offensive linemen have hit the portal, maybe more. How do

1336
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: you even manage that? How are they gonna play in

1337
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: this bowl game? I mean, it's just and that's where

1338
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: the calendar really we have to say anyone can play

1339
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 2: in the bowl games, which then the inner.

1340
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: College football person, to me, the part that's.

1341
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: Like deeply rooted in my DNA, is going to say, hark,

1342
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: so now we're giving guys five games to play and

1343
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't count against the year.

1344
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: That's stupid.

1345
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: Why don't we just say play five years and there

1346
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: is no red shirt anymore and we're done with it.

1347
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: So there has to be a meeting in the middle

1348
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: somewhere somehow if the ball schedule is going to stay

1349
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: anything close to what it is right now.

1350
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, everything you're saying I agree with you.

1351
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: I used to think we were a long way away

1352
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: from that. I don't think we are. I think somehow

1353
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: someway when we get through these next I think two

1354
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: years of playoff and they have to renegotiate the next one,

1355
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: which they're doing right now. I don't think they're arriving

1356
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: at a sign on the dotted line moment there unless

1357
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: there are concessions made and there is significant structural overturn

1358
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: in college athletics period college football included. Now, look, I

1359
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: don't know what all that means. You saw me. I

1360
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: rubbed my eye because it twitched just thinking about what

1361
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: all has to happen and how many people have to

1362
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: come together at the table. But man, if you have

1363
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: folks who really understand what the alternative is and have

1364
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: a little foresight and understand we cannot get five to

1365
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: ten further years down the road doing it this way,

1366
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: it's not possible, and and by the time that TV

1367
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: ratings start to dip, it'll be way too late to

1368
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: actually address the problem. If you've got some folks who

1369
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: understand that, I don't think we're a long way away

1370
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: from it.

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: No, And here's I'll give you a little another example

1372
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: of that. So when I say meat in the middle, okay,

1373
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: that's what I think college football refuses to do right now.

1374
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: And you're just gonna have to manage this here in

1375
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: a second because he's coming in and nobody can stop him.

1376
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: And it's just it's just what he does. So he's

1377
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: shutting the door right now. I'm just gonna come on, buddy,

1378
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: there you go meet the little in here.

1379
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: He comes in.

1380
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: He doesn't care like he's just he's like, I don't

1381
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: care if you're if it's work, if it's radio, if

1382
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: it's Josh Pat's podcast, like, I'm coming in and we'll

1383
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: figure it out.

1384
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: Does he have any answers? A locky? Do you like

1385
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: college football? Right now? I do? Okay, there you go.

1386
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: He's just he's just nothing. He's about nothing but television ratings.

1387
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: That's the way he's always been. There has to be

1388
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: a good example of this sort of meeting in the middle.

1389
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: That happened recently was I don't know if you saw.

1390
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner's tweet, either earlier in the week or over

1391
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: the weekend, and he was talking about guys who were

1392
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: playing playing he said.

1393
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: Caps playing six years of college football, I believe.

1394
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: What he meant by that was there's not guys who

1395
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: are on teams for six years. There's guys who have

1396
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: been mainstays on their roster for six years, as in

1397
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: contributors on the field for six years. That is unheard

1398
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: of that we have not been dealing with. And I

1399
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: think for a lot of folks that refuse again refuse

1400
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: to meet in the middle, they're only going to have

1401
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: their one thought process on this. They immediately thought that

1402
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner was saying that, oh, it's so unfair for

1403
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson to go have to block true freshman outside

1404
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: linebacker and he's going to destroy him every time, or oh,

1405
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: senior linebacker Tequillo Spikes gets to go up against true

1406
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 2: freshman one hundred and eighty pound running back, that life's

1407
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: not fair. It's actually not what he meant. In my opinion,

1408
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: I think what he meant when he.

1409
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: Talked about the physical maturity.

1410
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: Was not just yes, you can get run over by

1411
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: some guys. And this is probably why the NFL doesn't

1412
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: allow eighteen year olds to come play. But think about

1413
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: where we are with twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

1414
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: twenty four year olds playing college football, how you process things,

1415
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: how you understand things, how you know how to go

1416
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: study film. I didn't know how to study film until

1417
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: my third year in college. I had no idea what

1418
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: the secondary was doing until midway through my third year

1419
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: in college, and how that impacted the front seven, and

1420
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: how that might show me where a pressure was coming from,

1421
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: and why one corner played only into the boundary and

1422
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: one played into the field.

1423
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: Why free safeties rotated the way that they did.

1424
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: When you're twenty three and you've played six years of

1425
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: college football, you know all of it.

1426
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: You figured it all out.

1427
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: You know how to prepare, you know how to handle

1428
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: your business off the field a little bit better. You're

1429
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 2: more mature. Your body's more mature, your brain is more mature.

1430
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: So I think what he was trying to say was, no,

1431
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's just physically unfair for Orlando

1432
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: Pace as a junior to go gainst seventeen year old

1433
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: outside linebacker. What he's saying is the guys who have

1434
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: legitimately been doing this for five or six or seven years,

1435
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: sometimes there is a portion of it that's a little

1436
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: bit unfair. And like I tell him, almost every day,

1437
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: life ain't fair. But I think what he's trying to

1438
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: say was just think about where we are with some

1439
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: of these guys that have been in their systems and

1440
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: been around college football for such a long time, that yes,

1441
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: they're gonna be way ahead of schedule, and yes they're

1442
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: gonna be way ahead a lot of the other guys,

1443
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: and it's going to continue to take opportunities away from

1444
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: younger players.

1445
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: Right.

1446
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: Wrong and different, There's just some reality to what he's saying.

1447
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: Going back to what you're talking about where we are

1448
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: with not only the schedule, the movement and the ability

1449
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: to stick around and play for a longer period of time.

1450
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: There have been at least.

1451
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: Four quarterbacks this year that have gone into the portal,

1452
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, like, is there a new portal to

1453
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: the draft? Is there a portal to the professional world

1454
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: like the NCAA told me we're all going to pro

1455
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 2: and something other than sports, Like maybe they now have

1456
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: a portal to that where they can get you to enterprise,

1457
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: rent a car, you can get behind a desk and

1458
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: start working right away. But no, it was to play

1459
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: more college football. And I'm like, kJ Jefferson.

1460
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: Has a year like Graso McCall has a year Racey

1461
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 1: McCall needs to be working at a flag man portal

1462
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: to a flag where are we It's good for them,

1463
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: go do it.

1464
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: I would have done it, but it's just there are

1465
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: portions of that that are problematic for other parts of

1466
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: college football that we don't often want to talk about.

1467
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: What are we doing on Cube show over the holiday season?

1468
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,480
Speaker 1: What's coming up over there? We're there some bowl previews.

1469
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about these schedules coming up Sunday.

1470
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: I'll give you my thoughts on each team SEC schedules

1471
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. We'll previous some bowl games and we

1472
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: always go watch film on the portal. Guys that are

1473
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: coming into the SEC teams that nobody knows about, Like Auburn.

1474
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: Gets a receiver this week that I feel pretty good about.

1475
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: Big play guy, can take the top off, but also

1476
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: works the screen game very well.

1477
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: So we'll actually watch them, which is crazy to think about.

1478
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there was another receiver from Ohio State that

1479
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: everybody gave you their opinion on that had this many

1480
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: snaps played in college. I don't know how you give

1481
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 2: an opinion on that because I haven't seen it. I'm

1482
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: going to give you opinions on things that I've seen.

1483
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: It's a dangerous concept. I'd much prefer to just go

1484
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: to a website or a message board and steal someone

1485
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: else's opinion. But you do you over there Cube show,

1486
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: check it out YouTube, you just type it in. It's

1487
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: not just some random podcast. It's actually out there. It

1488
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: has its own logo and I enjoy it. You will too.

1489
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: C You appreciate it. Brother Hocky do you root for

1490
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: payte state? Wow? You said you parenting? There is no

1491
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: substitute for good parenting. Thanks about appreciate it, And that

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