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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's see alive on a Monday edition to Cleve the

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Speaker 1: Browns Daily. I am merely bow. He is the great z.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, buddy? Yeah, you're up? Is this

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Speaker 1: thing on? It's on? We need to get back at

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Speaker 1: least we're indoors in the air conditioning I've got How

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Speaker 1: about those midges? Is that what those words? Did we

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Speaker 1: officially call those midges? Or was it something else, some

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Speaker 1: sort of a biting gnat apparatus that has plagued the

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Speaker 1: northeast Ohio region over the last few days. It does

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Speaker 1: feel that way. But we need to do is give

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Speaker 1: a We need to get Drew Davidson, the Great Drew

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Speaker 1: involved in our radio tentable based here the way that

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Speaker 1: he has involved in the Browns live tent because that

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Speaker 1: has air conditioning. Double d has air conditioning. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: huge like a pipe this big two of them that

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Speaker 1: are blowing nothing but beautifully freezing cold air in there.

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Speaker 1: And that explains the energy. It's right when that comes up,

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Speaker 1: you go boom. That's why you always you can feel

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Speaker 1: it through the scream. It's like somebody just through like

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Speaker 1: cold water. Let's let's go. Yes, But the a C

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Speaker 1: is key to the whole operation. I believe that it is.

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Speaker 1: In fact, yesterday I brought my the official Nana of

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Speaker 1: of CBD out to the training camp. Now give a.

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Speaker 1: Nana claims that that was the first time she's ever

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Speaker 1: met you. Me and the kids said, not true, yeah right.

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Speaker 1: She also official Nan also claims she's never met you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true either possible, but I

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Speaker 1: don't believe. So she's been in the studio when you like,

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Speaker 1: it would have been I have. I'm not sure I've

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Speaker 1: met the official Nana. It would have been pre COVID,

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Speaker 1: which is an incredible just terrible in the resume. She

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Speaker 1: came in here and gave Gibby the biggest sing's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of your It was great. It's

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Speaker 1: like it was a real fan moment. It was, well,

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Speaker 1: that's to win. Then it was one to know. It

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Speaker 1: only went downhill after that because it got excruciatingly hot,

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Speaker 1: well not for us, because we watched we took in

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Speaker 1: training camp practice from from the Browns Lives which has

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Speaker 1: air conditioning. The air conditioning and ice cold water. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget too, there's like a lot of expensive gear that

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Speaker 1: has to be cool. Let me ask you a question, Gibby.

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Speaker 1: How much does a how much does a human thorax

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Speaker 1: cost of a professional broadcaster? What is that worth? That's right,

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Speaker 1: So don't come to me with cameras. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is an instrument. I'm just telling you an instrument. Thomas

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Speaker 1: He had had surgery to repair that instrument. True instrument. Connor,

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Speaker 1: where are we at on the on the fan quest?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of cooling Stevie? You're calling him by his real name. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I have stev You're right,

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Speaker 1: Shame on me. What happens I'm going two days? Has

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Speaker 1: he watched any east bounding down yet? Stevie? Have you

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Speaker 1: seen any east bounding down training camp? Man? No time?

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Speaker 1: A half hour? No time? Half it's a half hour,

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Speaker 1: pure joy. It's an off day in the building. You

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Speaker 1: would never know that based on this room. No not

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Speaker 1: we're here, we're here, But do we do we have

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Speaker 1: a fan? Then? Is that what you're saying. Yeah, okay, alright, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So we should have that tomorrow, which is nice. We

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Speaker 1: should have that tomorrow then, yes, right, okay, okay, that's

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Speaker 1: a way for everybody. How are you doing our weekend?

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Speaker 1: I mean we were here, me and GiB Ay and

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Speaker 1: nice bomby. That's great. I love training camp. I do too.

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Speaker 1: like this is the scene in Caddy check or He's

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Speaker 1: like I own lumber yards. I noticed you wan't spend

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Speaker 1: Part three. That's the one so you birdie the part

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Speaker 1: So I was wearing it um last oh, and it's

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Speaker 1: not you know, if you said you have a full

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Speaker 1: season Deshaun Watson to elevate everything up, that's one thing

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Speaker 1: season of Deshaun Watson at a minimum. It feels like

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Speaker 1: some work with the third team, was kind of the

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Speaker 1: third team quarterback for Saturday's day, and it looked like

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Speaker 1: he wondered, okay, maybe as he moved ahead of of

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs, who has had his struggles, and Rosen was

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Speaker 1: very good. That they open practice on Saturday with a

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Speaker 1: two point conversion type of a play, and Rosen converted

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Speaker 1: his got his nice pass to it Nikia Griffin Stewart

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Speaker 1: that the young tight end right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field for a success conversion. He threw a couple

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Speaker 1: of nice touchdowns to Mike Harley Jr. That's a name

434
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear you mention a bunch of times Um

435
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Speaker 1: and Zaire Mitchell Payton at the end of practice and

436
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: everybody went nuts, so he had a very good Saturday. Sunday.

437
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Speaker 1: Dobbs got the opportunity back with the threes and had

438
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Speaker 1: I thought, his best day of practice and in in

439
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Speaker 1: one at the end of practice. What they did was

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Speaker 1: they had the one offense against the two defense, the

441
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Speaker 1: two offense versus the one defense, and then the three

442
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: offense versus the three defense. And the scenario was you

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Speaker 1: had the ball in like I think your own twenty

444
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Speaker 1: and you were down three, and you had a minute

445
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Speaker 1: and ten seconds left to get in a field goal

446
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: range for a tie, score touchdown to win or bub kiss.

447
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: Brissette actually got them into field goal range and cad

448
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Speaker 1: you word, make the field goal. The defense had a

449
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Speaker 1: good job of holding. They had one kind of big

450
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: play to Harrison Bryant Um and they were able to

451
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Speaker 1: kind of get down in the in the mix, and

452
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Speaker 1: then the defense kind of stiffened up field goal, so

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Speaker 1: that was a tie. The one offense got down the

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Speaker 1: field again. It was Watson to Harrison Brian on a

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Speaker 1: rollout that got them into field goal range. Kat York

456
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Speaker 1: made the field goal again and and they got it done.

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Speaker 1: The three v three's Dobbs hit Zaire Mitchell Payton for

458
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: what could have been a touchdown but certainly very close,

459
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Speaker 1: and then finished the drive with the touchdown to Mike

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Speaker 1: Harley Jr. So the threes did it and Dobbs actually

461
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Speaker 1: that was the best sequence he's had I think out here.

462
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Speaker 1: Now you mentioned I talked about, you know, in the

463
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Speaker 1: quarterback room. Watson continues to be good. Brissette I thought

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Speaker 1: I had has had some nice days, made some very

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Speaker 1: good throws and they did a red zone seven on

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Speaker 1: seven on Saturday, and I thought he did a good

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Speaker 1: job in there with a lot of touchdowns. Again, Mike

468
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Speaker 1: Harley Jr. Was on the receiving end of some of those.

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Speaker 1: DPJ had nice stretch with um Deshaun Watson. But it's

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Speaker 1: clear that Watson is on his own level. Brissett is

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Speaker 1: on his own level. And then Dobbs and Rosen are competing,

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Speaker 1: and it was fun to see that Saturday Sunday competition

473
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Speaker 1: that the two of them both looked looked good on

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Speaker 1: those two days, and I think that was something that

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Speaker 1: was I think probably exciting to the coaching staff. That

476
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: was something you were hoping to see, and it was

477
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Speaker 1: something you did get to see. Well, the big thing

478
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: there is that's we know that we're gonna be without

479
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson or at Lease for six games, so that

480
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Speaker 1: you know, those guys can play themselves into being a

481
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, over the course of

482
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Speaker 1: the next few weeks. Well, then what's fascinating to me

483
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Speaker 1: is how do we approach this preseason as our our

484
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Speaker 1: quarterback coach Drew pettsing wants by how are we approaching

485
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: that position this season? I wonder if he's going in

486
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Speaker 1: there with the same question I have. I can only

487
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: get the sidelines on here. He's gone it. He does

488
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Speaker 1: have it. It feels like I think that's it. You

489
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Speaker 1: would rarely see you never see that. You never see

490
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Speaker 1: coaches walking with their iPad. That's where he's going right

491
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Speaker 1: right to those guys to say, what is it? Why

492
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Speaker 1: is it? Sideline sequence only? I'm gonna go ask them

493
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Speaker 1: as well after him. But I'm guessing it's sorted. I

494
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Speaker 1: bet it will be sorted. I probably won't even have

495
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: to go there, but the end up being sorted. Now, Um,

496
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Speaker 1: how do they approach that? It feels like Watson's going

497
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Speaker 1: to play, Does Brissette play in the preseason at all?

498
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Speaker 1: Does Brissette play in preseason game one at all? Or

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Speaker 1: do is the only play in preseason game three? He's

500
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Speaker 1: given him these Yeah, you figure this out is untenable.

501
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm not having it. Drew walks back iPad there. I

502
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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a fascinating where you would expect

503
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Speaker 1: to see a lot of Dobbs and Rosen. Yeah, you know,

504
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Speaker 1: but how much Watson do we see? How much Prissette

505
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Speaker 1: do we see? And these are questions that I imagine

506
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Speaker 1: will be answered at some point this week, and my

507
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: guests would be Kevin Spans got media tomorrow and then

508
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: not again, right, Gibbs, is that Gibbey's playing on his

509
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: phone gives going through training? We got like three training

510
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: requests for us, all right, now, what are you talking about?

511
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: Training requests? We got to go through the league, the

512
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Speaker 1: gambling policy, We've got to go through them. To prevent

513
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: cyber attacks, we gotta my grade our phones that we

514
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff going on right now, which

515
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: is I literally year to do list today, and I'm like,

516
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure when I'm gonna have time to do

517
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Speaker 1: all this. Why are you guys doing this in the

518
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Speaker 1: middle of camp. Couldn't this have been done in July?

519
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: One of them? One of them is the gambling thing.

520
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: It's like a league thing. That's a league initiative. You

521
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: have to get certified, you have to do it always

522
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: happens thuring training camp. There's at least three other things

523
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Speaker 1: that I've got to fill out in the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's probably number and fifty on my current list of

525
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Speaker 1: things that it actually a call with the league right now.

526
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Speaker 1: That's why I stepped down. Very good. Stefancy speaks, then

527
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: you gotta be on CBD with us for a second.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, He's not on this call. Se Fancy speaks

529
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and then not again. Right If he's going to

530
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Speaker 1: share with the world his plans, it will be tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So he won't talk again until postgame in Jacksonville on

532
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Speaker 1: Friday tomorrow, and then Friday Wednesdays the travel day. Let's

533
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: go over that and then we'll get back to the

534
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: copious notes. So you're outside tomorrow, fans, normal camp closed

535
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, but it will be here, yes, okay, and

536
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: then we travel. Then you travel Wednesday night, so Thursday

537
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: will practice down in Jacksonville. It's going to be a

538
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: non football team building activity. Is that right? Gibbe trying

539
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: to think, what do you what do you do in Jacksonville?

540
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: What's wrong on Thursday? Their schedule for Thursday was some

541
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: type of a team building a team building activity in Jacksonville.

542
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: I thought it was Wednesday. You get in Wednesday night,

543
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: but thursdays, but there's no schedule. So Thursday Thursday, are

544
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Speaker 1: you guys free? Well, there's Brown's Daily and the coaches show.

545
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: Well that's at night, but Daily is at one. We'll

546
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Speaker 1: do that show at one. So listen, the heart wants

547
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: what the heart wants. Brother, and then but you have

548
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: you have Thursday morning. There's there's a window. There's a

549
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: window you guys could easily do. He's not buying into

550
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: this like you guys could easily do, like an eight. Well,

551
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: he's already played SA grass and so most people when

552
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: they go down then they want to play sa grass.

553
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: It's the it ends extraordinarily, but it's first there's gonna

554
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: be my guests would be giving and you correct me

555
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: around my guests is production meetings will be on Thursday.

556
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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta have everybody there though, to have

557
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: the production meeting. Yeah, I don't know, and I don't.

558
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't believe certain people are until later in the day.

559
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: It's true. Some people are getting in on third maybe

560
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: they'll be on Friday. Listen. I'm also taking this very

561
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: seriously about this is the debut, so it's a preseason

562
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: for you to Let's be fair, You're gonna thrive on.

563
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: You will be the best to ever do this, like

564
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: you on Color in the preseason. Please, you know this

565
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: roster front and back. Bro this is more storytelling than

566
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: football reaction. It is. But like you're gonna crush. I mean,

567
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna absolutely crush. Come on, give me a break.

568
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: This is let's see. I think, um trying to think

569
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Speaker 1: where I want you to play, But I don't know.

570
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: We can't bring our clubs down. Why because we had

571
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: to bring our suitcase and a backpack. So you make

572
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Speaker 1: your clubs. I would be perfectly happy. By the way,

573
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Speaker 1: if it's like nice have to go like hang out

574
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: of the pool, a little swimming, well, little fitness in

575
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Speaker 1: the morning. I don't think we're getting the golf on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. I love it. I

577
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: think it's said it. Say when you're down there for

578
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: the full day, you know, listen, if you want to

579
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: run CBD from back here, give and I could go

580
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: run them up. Gig, you and Esteban and Stevie. You're

581
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: all you gonna do is be there by one, bea

582
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: to the hotel by one. Right, tight, It's done, easy,

583
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: too easy, too easy. Give shot, see what he can see?

584
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: Where he plays, where's Tony play? Set up your boys

585
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: and let's go. Let's get this done. That's what I

586
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: want for you. So all right, So then we're back Friday,

587
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: So you'll let the game on Friday night, Friday night

588
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: after my God, to think about this. If if you

589
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Speaker 1: don't have some sort of resolution on the Watson, think

590
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: by tomorrow when stefans the media. If it comes between

591
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: then or Friday night, you will not hear from Stefansky

592
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: until after Friday night. Yeah. Um. And then whatever the

593
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: plan is for Watson in the preseason game on Friday, Yeah,

594
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Speaker 1: I'm I think that whole part of this is going

595
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: to be fascinating. What do they actually do at the

596
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: quarterback position if we know Watson is out for six

597
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: games or whatever it is, going to be he's gonna play.

598
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: But do you expose Brissette or do you think as

599
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: a veteran he's had enough exposure in his career, or

600
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: do you want him to get some run in this

601
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: offense prior to the fact that you know you've got

602
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: a game coming up. Or do you say, with Jacoby,

603
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna you're actually gonna go in there with the

604
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: ones against Philly when they're here in the joint practices

605
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get all of your reps that way.

606
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: At some point it transitions to hey, Jacoby, what do

607
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: we need to do to get you ready? Yes? How

608
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: do we get that? That probably is going to happen

609
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: soon because the reality is is what the reality is

610
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Speaker 1: on the Watson side of things. So then the following

611
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: week when we return, you'll be You'll have a camp

612
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: practice on Sunday here, correct, and then you'll go Monday Tuesday,

613
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Speaker 1: can't practices done? That's a rap for the camp portion

614
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: of it, and then the Eagles get here Wednesday. That's right, Okay,

615
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: So that's the setup. That's that's where it is. Boy,

616
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Speaker 1: that is I mean, this is a really interesting week. Yeah,

617
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Speaker 1: Eagles come in the big first joint practice is Thursday, okay, alright,

618
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: and we're housing him here. Yeah, they're shipping them. Obviously

619
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: they're not staying here, but there the practice will they

620
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: will be staying downtown. I think it will be similar

621
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Speaker 1: to what the Giants did in the fact that they

622
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: will go to First Energy, change into their gear, and

623
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: then bus here okay, okay, and then do it out here. Okay.

624
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: So we have are those open. They are not for

625
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: us even like we can't we don't even get people

626
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: like us okay sometimes okay, so that would be fun

627
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: to see. That's always fun when you get to see

628
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: that a little bit. So that's the way that that goes.

629
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Speaker 1: All right, we we were derailed any other thing in

630
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: the copious notes from this weekend that you want to

631
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Speaker 1: get to my friend, Well yeah, and we got we'll

632
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: get time to come back to this. But so just

633
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of rounding it out. So Javon Wims had a

634
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: big catch in that too minute drill. He was back.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy who's been thirty three career games,

636
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Speaker 1: seven starts with the Chicago Bears prior to joining the

637
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown So he's a he's six four, he's a

638
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Speaker 1: guy that you know, has some size. Maybe he can

639
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Speaker 1: play his way back into potentially competing for a spot

640
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Speaker 1: on this seem like say he's been in the league

641
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Speaker 1: for a couple of seasons, good size. Made a big

642
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Speaker 1: play in that two minute drill. So he's somebody stood up.

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Speaker 1: Mike Harley Jr. Just keeps making plays. And I asked

644
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Speaker 1: Chad o'shase, what do you like about him? And he said,

645
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Speaker 1: he just he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest,

646
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Speaker 1: he's not the most gifted. He just knows how to

647
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Speaker 1: get open and catches the ball when you throw it

648
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Speaker 1: to him, that's a win. And so he's somebody that

649
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Speaker 1: I think has elevated his stock and certainly has a chance,

650
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Speaker 1: like I said, to be you know, somebody of consequence.

651
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: And he's had He's caught passes from Watson, he's got

652
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Speaker 1: he gets from from Brissette, from Dobbs, from Rose, everybody.

653
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Speaker 1: He's got a touchdown pass in the last week actually

654
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Speaker 1: from Friday, Saturday Sunday. He got a touchdown from Watson.

655
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Speaker 1: On Friday on a deep scene. He got a touchdown

656
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Speaker 1: from Brissette in the red zone. The very next play

657
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: they went to the threes. He caught a touchdown from

658
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Speaker 1: Rosen in the red zone, and then he catches a

659
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Speaker 1: touchdown that wins this two minute period yesterday from top.

660
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Speaker 1: So he's got a touch on from every quarterback just

661
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. So he's had a very nice part

662
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: of his camp and and he just makes place. He

663
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: knows where to be. He's got he's quick, o'shas already

664
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Speaker 1: a fan. Is he's made place. He's somebody who's I

665
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Speaker 1: think has helped himself a lot. And now if he

666
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Speaker 1: can continue that against you know, Jacksonville fe ends up

667
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Speaker 1: having a good game, I think that'll that'll help him.

668
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Speaker 1: What's he fighting for? Is he fighting for us? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but he's been good and he's somebody who

670
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Speaker 1: in this preseason I think as a chance to open

671
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Speaker 1: up some eyes. I think that's where the receivers, whether

672
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Speaker 1: it's Felton, jachiem Grant, who considers himself a receiver, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Mike Harley Jr. Whether it's Travel Harris, whether

674
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Speaker 1: it's Javon Wims Schwartz, even like these guys in the

675
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: preseason have to keep making places. And then I would

676
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Speaker 1: say in the tight end room, everybody's making plays. And

677
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: if there's one guy that's I think struggled a little

678
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: bit the last couple days been Miller Forest. He's had

679
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: a couple of just bad drops. Stanton catches everything that's

680
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: thrown his way. Nikkia Griffin Stewart is very much a

681
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: move tight end who is very good in the past game.

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00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Mitchell Payton keeps making plays. That's one I think that

683
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: could be very very interesting in terms of, you know,

684
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Speaker 1: who are the four tight ends when it's all said

685
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Speaker 1: and done. Brian and Joko are locks. Beyond that, I

686
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Speaker 1: don't think there are any locks. The versatility of Stanton

687
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Speaker 1: I think gives him some type of an edge. But

688
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: Forrestalls gotta bounce back after having a very good spring.

689
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: He's he's just kind of slowed down the last couple

690
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Speaker 1: of days. So copious, that's the group, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you do. This is this is your it's good jovity,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Defense. We got time, We're gonna get some time.

693
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Speaker 1: We'll get into the defensive highlights over the weekend coming up.

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, you'll hear from so of of

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Speaker 1: the people we've discussed, including Mr Doosom and uh and

696
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Speaker 1: in some of the highlights from the sound over the weekend,

697
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Speaker 1: you have that look forward to, which is nice. He

698
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Speaker 1: was to Clear the Bronze Daily on ESPN Cleveland Cleveland

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Speaker 1: rumkey dot com to learn more before we hear from

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Speaker 1: various luminaries over the weekend. The copious notes on the

704
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. My friend, all right, we'll

705
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: start up front and in on the end. Miles and Clowney,

706
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: it's a full day. They're just Miles is operating at

707
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Speaker 1: a level that I've never even seen even from him

708
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Speaker 1: at a practice. He's just wrecking practice from time to time.

709
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: And it's it is a tough thing. And and I

710
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: know Jed will is getting good work against him, and

711
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: they're working with him, and he's been, you know, much improved.

712
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Miles is just on a completely different level. And I

713
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Speaker 1: thought over the weekend we started to see them start

714
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: to do some of the games, some of the twists

715
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: with the defensive stunts and and these two defensive tackle

716
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: especially Taven Bryan Tim, Ryan can move Perryan can move

717
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Um and they are able to. They were getting around

718
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback quite a bit. So that was good to see.

719
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Um from the guys up front. Alex right left practice

720
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: on Saturday and then came right back, so and it

721
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: was practicing yesterday, so that was good. Um. You lost

722
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Stephen Weatherly over the weekend. He was placed on I R,

723
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: so he was a veteran in that defensive end room.

724
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: They bring in Chris odom Um, who was the USFL

725
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, former high school teammate actually

726
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: of Miles Garrett's at Martin High School in Arlington, Texas,

727
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: so he's in the mix now at that defensive end room. Um,

728
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: you go the linebackers. You know, Jacob continues to get

729
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: all the work at the mic linebacker talks, getting some

730
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: backup mike lineback work which he's having a blast with.

731
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Speaker 1: But Phillips and Lucue Corman are just excellent and we're

732
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Speaker 1: getting a walk back which is gonna be good secondary wise. UM,

733
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Speaker 1: I'll start. MJ is getting a ton of work with

734
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Speaker 1: the ones and playing well. They love him. Greedy's back

735
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: in the team drills over the weekend, He's been excellent.

736
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: A j has been excellent. Um Greg has been ridiculously good.

737
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Grandsmen good. John has been good, Ronnie has been good.

738
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Speaker 1: And then some guys under the radar, uh Pernell Motley

739
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: has had a couple of nice practices, got his hands

740
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Speaker 1: on the ball. The Anthony Bell had to pick six

741
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Um off of a pass from Josh Dobbs.

742
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: He's been He has stood out on multiple practices and

743
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: gotten recognition internally for that. He is a a safety.

744
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: UM Lavert Hill who we signed when we wave Reggie

745
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Robinson injured. He had a pick on his first day

746
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: and off of a tip of Ronnie Harrison tip and

747
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: he ended up getting the pick in the back of

748
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Speaker 1: the end zone. So there are there's a lot to

749
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: like in that secondary room, very deep, incredible competition. I think,

750
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Speaker 1: just not only to make the roster, but to stay

751
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: in the program, to stay here. There are guys who

752
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: are playing very well. So the Anthony Bell, though he's

753
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: somebody that I kind of signaled out early, Um continues

754
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: to impress. He can run and they're excited to see

755
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: him hit people because they think he's a real physical

756
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: player as well. Do you think it is. Um. It's

757
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: interesting because it's this. It's not a surprise that Uh

758
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and uh and Myles Garrett arend but it

759
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: feels like this year, that this camp, the two of

760
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: them have even been completely agree like. It just feels

761
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: like clown to you. I'm sure you have friends. I

762
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: have friends who are like you know you, whether you

763
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: have a business, you have a trade. Uh, you reach

764
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: a point usually it's in your mid forties where you

765
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I got this sorted out. It's time

766
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: to stack years and crush this for a while. It

767
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: feels like they're in the professional athlete equivalent of that

768
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: right now. Chubb and Miles, they just feel like I'm

769
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Speaker 1: the best running back, I'm the best defensive end on

770
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Speaker 1: the planet. Watch me work and they both just they

771
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: both look extraordinary every single practice. Yeah, and you know,

772
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Speaker 1: of the things to be fair people, when I was

773
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Speaker 1: saying earlier that well, yeah, the you know, the number

774
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Speaker 1: two offense led by Bursette got down on the field

775
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: and the field goal range against the number one defense

776
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: and we're able to get it done there to plays.

777
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Speaker 1: One of them was a big one to Javon Whims

778
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Speaker 1: that I talked about I think John John Johnson gets

779
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: a sacker, certainly hits him and disrupts that play, but

780
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: that ends up being a fort yard game. And then

781
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: there's another one where you'd have a hard time leading

782
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: me to believe that Myles Garrett isn't getting a sack.

783
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: But they counted, as you know, like a fifteen yard

784
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: completion over the middle of Johnny Stanton. So take it

785
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt that the one defense gave

786
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Speaker 1: up the field goal at the end of the game,

787
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: because it could very well have been the case that

788
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: they gave hip nothing and had to monster sacks. Yeah,

789
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: and and so this leads a screech up of you

790
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: on the note, Miles, Miles, Miles. Garrett's, to your points,

791
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: seems to be enjoying himself. He seems to be more comfortable.

792
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: He's interacting with fans every single day, and he's just

793
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: out there absolutely wrecking shop. It's almost it's to me,

794
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: it feels like I said this last week early on,

795
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Speaker 1: it feels like he's like, you, damn right in the

796
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: face of the franch eyes watch me, Like that's what

797
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: it seems like. I mean, it's he was doing something

798
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: today with back to school stuff with kids like you

799
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: just fully in is all in as can be, is

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Speaker 1: Myles Garrett. It's really really cool to see he's got

801
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: a chance to be one of the most beloved athletes

802
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: in this city. Uh, in the history of the city.

803
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Like it's in the cards. The way that his career

804
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: has started, the way that he's taken to the town,

805
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: the way that he stays here in the offseason, all

806
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: that stuff, it's starting to stack a little bit for

807
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: him and you can see it. You can see it. Um.

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00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from some of the luminaries. Let's

809
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Speaker 1: start with John Johnson, the third um, because I think

810
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: one of the things that's really critical is that while

811
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: all of this stuff is going on, like we can

812
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: say like we're not paying attention to it, but there's

813
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot. The Watson stuff is a lot. You get

814
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: the Kareem News over the weekend, John Johnson was asked

815
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: about the team's chemistry this year. Here's what he had

816
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: to say. I feel like we're a much closer team,

817
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: and I think like the most connected team usually wins.

818
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, when you get down and like laging games, uh,

819
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: you need that little the extra little push the actual

820
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: chemistry with one another to you know, to get over

821
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Speaker 1: that hump. So I think, like you said, all of

822
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: his defense, um, core teamers, I think we're all jelling

823
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: much better. Um. I don't know if it because in COVID,

824
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're all in the same locker room now,

825
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: But guys like that I've never talked to before that

826
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: literally we're on the same team around each other every day.

827
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: I might not have talked to him, my talk to

828
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: him now, And I think that's like spread across the

829
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: whole team. Yeah, that that defense has got a lot

830
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: of juice to it. We mentioned Newsome earlier and just

831
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: how it feels like he's ready to take a leap

832
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: here is coach Howard on Newsom not getting an interception

833
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: in the game yet, but you can feel it's coming.

834
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: I think plays come to you when you do things.

835
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: I think when guys start searching and reaching for place,

836
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: I think that's when it's not good for the defense,

837
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: it's not good for the player. I think if you

838
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: have the right process, you do your job the way

839
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: we asked you to do, like, plays are gonna come

840
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: to you. And I feel the same way about Greg.

841
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: It's go ahead, Greg was around the ball a lot.

842
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: He had you know, double digit pass breakups in his

843
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: rookie year. He is going to be just fine. Interceptions

844
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: sometimes or a factor of luck, yes, and they've got

845
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: to throw the ball in your direction. I think Greg,

846
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: it's all gonna come for him. I'm not worried about that.

847
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I really think at the end of this year though,

848
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: we are going to be he is going to be

849
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: regarded as one of the best corners in the league

850
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: in our cornerback tandem, is going to be regarded as

851
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: absolutely elite in the game. What where are we on

852
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: on Denzel from a health standpoint? Hopefully soon, right, I mean,

853
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what we all. Yeah, I just wonder

854
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: where he's The good news is it's foot but he's

855
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: been and it's what happened at the end of the

856
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: mini camp. But he's in sneakers the whole time. He's

857
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: going through everything outors, he's cheering on his teammates, able

858
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: to run around and jump around. So I think it's

859
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: a matter of time and they're just being cautious. And

860
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward is one of those known proven commodities and

861
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: you want him for week one, Week one of the

862
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: preseason doesn't matter. For we're Week one matters, and I

863
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: think they have a plan to make sure that that

864
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: does happen. But the benefit of this is you are

865
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: getting a tremendous amount of quality first team reps for A. J.

866
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: Green and m J Emerson. Yeah. I like the look

867
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: of that kid. He did you have a good weekend? Emerson?

868
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: He had a very good weekend, So did A J. Green.

869
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean, and they're both tall, they're both around six two,

870
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: but MJ is just the way that he moves everything

871
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: about him. It feels like the Brown's got a very

872
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: good value with him in that third round. I know, uh,

873
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: they are quite pleased that the secondary, the back seven

874
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: here has a has a chance to be just absolutely

875
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: a problem for every team that it plays. And when

876
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: you couple with that the fact that you have those

877
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: two defensive ends. Um, that's why there is such a

878
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: comfort around here, regardless of the Watson situation, because of

879
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: how good this defense is and how it's built. It's

880
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: built for sustainability. A lot of these guys are really young.

881
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: They're under contract for long time. Clowning obviously just for

882
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: one year, but almost everybody else is either locked up

883
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: long term um or still on rookie deals. So this

884
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: this defense is going to grow together at a very

885
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: high level for for many many years to come, and

886
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: you're it on display here in camp. One other thing

887
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I want to backtrack on a little bit. We had

888
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: to hop on all last week. We talked about his

889
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: work that he was doing on the offensive line. He

890
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: went out for a second session. It was a Friday

891
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: after our show. He went back out there again. We

892
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: got some work and got to be around them, spent

893
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: some time with Jed Wills. UH. Coach Callahan was asked

894
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: about Jed Wills and how he's feeling in regard to

895
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: obviously some of Joe's work as well. Here's Coach Callahan

896
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: on that he's coming along. You know, we're trying some

897
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: different things, you know, with him in terms of past protection.

898
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: We're trying to get him to feel comfortable not only

899
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: with this set, but with his different with the different

900
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: types of hand usage that we're trying to employ. And

901
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: and Joe Thomas has been incredibly helpful and it's great

902
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: to have him back with us. Yeah, yeah, it is.

903
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: And it was I love that we feel too, because

904
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: you could tell he had joy in it. It was

905
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the best time ever. Like he loved it.

906
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: It was more than joy for him. It was literally

907
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: he could not have been happier. Yeah, yeah, very good

908
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: on that front. Uh. The only other thing that I

909
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: wanted to get to here was Kade York, who's been

910
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: great and camp just hits booming one after booming one.

911
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: He's got a fantastic mustatues working. Uh last week last

912
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I saw him. I'm assuming that that's still that thing

913
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: is still cruising along. Um. He was available over the

914
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: weekend as well and spoke about the confidence that he

915
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: has in the long field goals, especially anything my range

916
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: of going out there, I think in the same way. Um,

917
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: just three points in the board, whether it's a short

918
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: to go along till goal, p t. Just they put

919
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: me out there for it. I'm gonna have confident myself,

920
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna put through. So it's gotta be a

921
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: different dude to be a kicker man, Yes, and he

922
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: is a different dude in terms of temperament and in

923
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: terms of talent. And yesterday they gave him an opportunity

924
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: to make a forty five yard field goal and if

925
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: he did, practice would be over. If not there was

926
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna be more stuff to come, and he drilled it, buried,

927
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: it got lifted up on the shoulders of his teammates.

928
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: He's only he missed two kicks so far in all

929
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: of training camp, and both were from fifty plus. Now

930
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: he's made from plus two, but anything under fifty five

931
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: yards so far, he is perfect in this training camp,

932
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: which was I don't know names, but do you remember

933
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: the camp where we couldn't make any I do. There's

934
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: been a few like that. There's one in my mind,

935
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: especially where it was like can somebody make one? Bleeds?

936
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: Can we make one? So it is not like that.

937
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: It is very different. This is very, very very different.

938
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: All right. Coming up at the top of the hour,

939
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: we'll have a little fun with the Hall of Fame

940
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: weekend down in Canton. Um. I saw you see the

941
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: ratings for this thing on Thursday. I'm telling you they

942
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: got in the NBA finals, but still it was like

943
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: five point four or whatever. It is better than NHL

944
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: for sure, better than a lot of the golf. But yeah,

945
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's it is dwindling. They need to that's

946
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: why should they should do what we wanted? What you

947
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: could do with week three of the preseason. So it's

948
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: like the dress rehear that that would work to figure

949
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: something out. But we'll have a little fun with that

950
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: coming up next. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on

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955
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: this is who came up with this list. We got

956
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: a list first of all, before you then fix the

957
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame weekend, what would you do right? Did

958
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: you read it right the way? Jorge Varden's piece in

959
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: the Athletic on the Hall of Fame set up down there,

960
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Village, the whole operation. I was

961
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: there last year for with my buddy for Edin James.

962
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. Yeah, it's cool, um, but like

963
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame Village, like they're gonna do a

964
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: water park in the hotels and all these other things

965
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: that are going to be going on down there. Yeah, yeah,

966
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really ambitious, feels like it. Yeah, and

967
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: it's cost a lot I'd like it to be a

968
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: great water park, though I don't know average water park.

969
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: I'd like it to be an elite water park. An

970
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: elite water park is one of the great, exciting, great slides,

971
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: lots of slides, tons of slides, so that there are

972
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: not a lot of like the lines, aren't not the

973
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: last parts the most important. It's not even so much

974
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: that I mean, because be honest, like the what's the

975
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: best water slide you've ever written in your life? Is

976
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: it either the straight down or one of the turny

977
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: ones at last forever? Those like the ones that did

978
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: drop Did you ever go that? When Jioga Lake was open,

979
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: so they had a three of them that were like

980
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: way up and they are tight dark tubes. Then like

981
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: you were flying down around the whole deal, and Darry

982
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: felt like you were going up sometimes even though you're

983
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: going down. It was they were tremendous. Give me some

984
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: of that. Inject that into my veins. Give me, like,

985
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: why can't we have twelve of those at one Placelet's

986
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: get twelve lines like that. Let's get a couple of

987
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: the ones that drop you through straight down and you

988
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: go crazy in there. Let's get some big Let's get

989
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: some ones that we're all together in a tube. We're

990
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: going around the big funnel. That's always fun. Let's do

991
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Get a great a great lazy river,

992
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: and how about a great adventurous river. Let's have all

993
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: the rivers. Let's have it all. I love a good

994
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: water park. I don't even know where there's a good

995
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: water park like the Cedar Point one. Sorry, I've heard

996
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: the Cedar Point one was good. I just had reviews

997
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: that it's new and it's all great that they got

998
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: it sorted out the new from like two years ago,

999
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: like they fixed it. No, probably not. Yeah, then, so

1000
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: it's not not that many great slides and a lot

1001
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: of long lines. That's not a great water park experience

1002
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: for me at all. I was trying to find, like

1003
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: somebody needs to make Cedar Point has an embarrassment of

1004
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: riches of roller coasters. So there's like eight elite roller coasters, okay, yes,

1005
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: six whatever. Somebody give me a water park that's the

1006
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: equivalent of that, where there's like ten. I gotta go

1007
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: on these ride rides. I don't have a problem with that,

1008
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: and let's crank them through. Let's get a fish in

1009
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: our process here let's go. That's the key to it.

1010
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: That's the real key to it is that um all right,

1011
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: so this is going to be what they had like

1012
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: at Giaga Lake. That's at the Royal Caribbean thing. Yeah,

1013
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: that looks at the on the Buckeye Cruise. I stopped

1014
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: there at that joint that looks the top thing. You

1015
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: go all the way to the top. It's like nine

1016
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: stories up fine and ten stories and it just whips

1017
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: around you getting the tube. You can't see anything gets

1018
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: pitched black. Yes, you have no idea where you are.

1019
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: I felt like I was going to drown, but a

1020
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: little bit didn't. And like when I was a kid,

1021
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: we had raging wires, had ones with these big humps

1022
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: and you go flying off the humps in there, and

1023
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: then somewhere you'd fly off of a hump into the water.

1024
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: And then now they have the things that you slide

1025
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: down and shoot back up off these ramps and fly

1026
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: around into water. Give me that those everything, everything that's

1027
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: a give me. That's a hit anywhere where people are like,

1028
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, this is great. Give me one water park.

1029
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: It's got it all. One of those coffin drops where

1030
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: you get in and that freaks me out. I don't

1031
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: like this. They have one of those there too, that

1032
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: was a full day. Those make me The three second

1033
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: countdown makes yeah, I am like that. Yeah, I have

1034
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: no problem like slingshotting myself into a dark one. I

1035
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: don't care about that. Even if it's straight down right,

1036
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, you get in and it's coming to no problem.

1037
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: But when I'm standing there and the bottom of thing

1038
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: that you're counting on with the ground when you stand

1039
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: on it is that it's there and stable, and then

1040
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: it's not and you're it. I'll do it. Yeah, they

1041
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: should do that, though, they should take our notes. Do

1042
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: you and I have a future? Is like water slide consultants?

1043
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: I think, so? Could we build these things? Yes? It

1044
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: feels like the only thing that's tough about building something

1045
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: like that here is that the weather sucks for eight months. Right,

1046
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to be here, and I've accepted that

1047
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: it won't be here. So you really need to do

1048
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: one of these and like Phoenix, Yeah, where we're going

1049
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: with the half? You measual? The half builds. It's a casita,

1050
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: just a little casita. I've in on his poolhouse and

1051
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: it's it's beautiful. Yeah, I think I think there, you know,

1052
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: I'll cook like the fact that he loves, like would

1053
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: we not golfed. I didn't know that he did until

1054
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: you asked him that he did. It's got to be

1055
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: like breathtaking to watch him strike the golf ball. I

1056
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: just imagine if it's like with anything with him, Like

1057
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: if he ever were to start it, I feel like

1058
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: he'd be like a three handicap in a month and

1059
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: at no time. Yeah, just two good. I will say though,

1060
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: like big Play gear hit the ball fire than I've

1061
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: ever seen anybody hit a golf ball, but his like

1062
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: range was three yards right and left, so there's no

1063
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: way to corral it. No, but when he did happen

1064
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: to hit one that was findable, boy, it was a peach.

1065
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: Pretty great on a scramble situation, especially if they have

1066
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: somebody like you get in there. Yeah yeah, because then

1067
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: you get to use that You might only get like

1068
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: three out of the eighteen, not from a big play game,

1069
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: but those three will be spectatu those would be great. Yeah, alright,

1070
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: very good. Um, punch of new people, just faces, trying

1071
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: to sort them out. I don't know all these humans.

1072
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um, all right, give a give it is,

1073
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: give me playing this with us? Are you on some conference?

1074
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: Are you playing this game with us? Are the in

1075
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: or are they out? What are we doing? Are you

1076
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: playing the game? I mean I can. Are you gonna Stevie?

1077
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Why don't you have Stevie filling on your project? Have

1078
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: him filling up your project and you fill it here? Pay,

1079
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: We're gonna play right now, go play, let's go, let's

1080
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: go in or out? A little traveling music on a Monday.

1081
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: You got it. It's he's policies two steps ahead of

1082
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: you and three steps ahead of service here. You know,

1083
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: it's funny when we well, you built it. When we

1084
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: came back to air, you built it. As we came

1085
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: back to air, Stevie's looking at me and he's going, go,

1086
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: go go, And I'm like, there's nothing in my ear,

1087
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing here, and he's like, he's like trying to

1088
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: figure it out. So apparently, as we were relaxing in

1089
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the break and I had my foot up here, I

1090
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: kicked this off right here, this little button right here,

1091
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: I kicked that off, and that's why there was no audio.

1092
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: But I figured it out, of course, figured it out.

1093
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: Drive on enthusiasm, Oh boy, all right, go ahead easy.

1094
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: You know people are replaceable and have been already. I

1095
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: believe that we've had this conversation. Well you listen. You

1096
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: and I both know I don't need this job. We'll

1097
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: see on the course seven am. Can I get a

1098
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: standing one oh seven tea time? Uh? That would be

1099
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 1: the one thing if we could like move this show

1100
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: to another to a three to five or two, or

1101
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: just go nine to eleven. Would be a bit of

1102
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: a conflict for you. But if I'm not here, then

1103
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. Here's other codes. Just

1104
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: me down. I have beyond on your other programs that

1105
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: we can have fund out about that. From CBO sports

1106
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: dot Com NFL's Top twenty players not in the Hall

1107
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: of Fame. Where the heck is Patrick Willis, He's on

1108
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: this list? Hold on, he should be in hold on

1109
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: my call, just ended, I get my laptop and you

1110
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: he should be number one, five time first team. All

1111
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: are dumb five Give me a bat, give me how

1112
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: about it instead of name call and give me a

1113
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: coherent argument as to why I'm wrong. Um. The only

1114
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: person on this list who I could say deserves it

1115
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: as much Zach Thomas. Jack Thomas is the Jack Thomas

1116
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: not being in his borderline criminal based on resume and precedent,

1117
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: would put him ahead of They're right there, though there

1118
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: one in two, they should be one two. Patrick Willis

1119
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: is the linebacker equivalent of He's even more accomplished than

1120
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Terrell Davis was Zach Thomas. Seven time Pro Bowler, five

1121
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: time All Pro in twelve seasons. Okay, you heard that,

1122
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: GiB A. Because seven time Pro bowler, five time first

1123
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: team All Pro in twelve seasons. Patrick Willis seven seasons

1124
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: in the league, seven Pro Bowls, five first team All pros,

1125
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: and he's one one second team All Pro. So the

1126
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: problem is, No, it's not because there's already to say

1127
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: that it's a problem. No, because it's what BOSSELLI ran into.

1128
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Did you play long enough? Okay, okay, hold on, I'm not.

1129
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I know you're not. I'm just saying. I'm

1130
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: saying that has been the argument some of these. All

1131
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: you have to do is do the Terrell Davis, and

1132
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: it's Terrell davis is resume, three time first team All Pro,

1133
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: three time Pro Bowl, seven seasons, seven seasons. Like Gail

1134
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: Sayers too, it's the same. There are guys who have

1135
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: done this. Honestly, Willis is more more impress sally, he's

1136
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 1: more accomplished than Davis and Thomas. Three time first Team

1137
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: All Pro in seven seasons. The guy with first Team

1138
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: All Pro five times in seven seasons. It's just gotta

1139
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: be five. It's gotta be who's presenting him, who's presenting

1140
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: him five? Who's presenting Patrick Willis? Because they're failing him.

1141
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: They're failing him big. It's insane. It's like it's not known.

1142
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: By the way, was a Cedar points Peck week and

1143
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: not impressed with the lazy river water slide lines were

1144
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: too long dried by the time of sliding cocktails at

1145
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: the adult poll Save the Day fifty entry a bit outrageous.

1146
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: Water park turd. I think it's hard because you're talking.

1147
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean again, how many times? How how much can

1148
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: you invest in a water park in Ohio? Somebody says

1149
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: Volcano Bay and Universal by Universal and floors, exactly what

1150
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I must have visited a right, let's

1151
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: get in Volcano Bay. So I was on I was

1152
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: on my call when you guys were talking about this.

1153
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: Did you mention Zambez Bay in Columbus? It's not in

1154
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: the same league as these, like the water slides. Well,

1155
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean those are some pretty they have some, but

1156
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: it's oh boy, this is this universal thing. It's it's

1157
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, let's go this this thing with that

1158
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: big guy who jumped off. Where is that? I don't know,

1159
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: but my water podcast to have one of these things.

1160
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: That's at the Frenzy water Park. Look, I looked it

1161
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: up and I kept just getting like someplace in Malaysia.

1162
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: How fun does that look? It feels like a home run.

1163
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this thing is unbelievable. It's Volcano water Park.

1164
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: I love a good water park. I mean, this is unbelievable.

1165
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: All right, in or out? We started Patrick Willis in first,

1166
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Zack Thomas in, Zack Thomas in. Uh. Their honorable mention

1167
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: was Andre Johnson in or out. Hold on, I gotta

1168
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: get the resume a right you pull up on time

1169
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: pro bowler, two time All Pro, eleventh all time and

1170
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: receptions and receiving yards. By the way, you know Tory

1171
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: Holts seven time pro bowler, one time All Pro only

1172
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: and he's number two on this list. Whoever made this?

1173
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: People don't know how to make lists anymore, especially CBS

1174
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: I've found their list to be dreadful. CBS is struggling

1175
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: with their lists bad lists. Also. The other thing that's

1176
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: that's troubling that I think it's gonna be really hard

1177
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: is there's gonna be a glood of receivers because everybody

1178
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: throws the ball now, right, So like trying to compare

1179
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: Sterling Sharp to Tory Holt, it's pretty tough now. Sterling Sharp, though,

1180
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: I think has a very interesting case because if I'm

1181
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: not gonna taken, I'm pretty sure it's a short career.

1182
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: But I think I think it might be. Might have

1183
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: been a three time first team All Pro, five Pro Bowls,

1184
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: three times NFL reception leader, two time NFL receiving touchdowns leader.

1185
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Um he was the last person to do the wide

1186
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: receiver triple crown before Cooper Cup did it last year.

1187
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: I want to say it was like seven seasons, three

1188
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: time All Pro, five time Pro bowler his last season.

1189
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: Why they're getting left out in Why is Davis in

1190
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: literally made it his life's work to get Tony Base

1191
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: in the Hall and he won. Then is Priscoe's still

1192
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: partying right now? Yeah? For sure that Patrick Willis is

1193
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: in the Hall of fame as a joke. Sterling Sharp's

1194
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: last season receptions yards, eighteen touchdowns in his last season,

1195
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: his seventh and final season. That's right at a time

1196
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: when the ball was not being thrown around like it isn't. No,

1197
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: he had a hundred and twelve catches and nine hundred

1198
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: and eight and ninety two he was a dude. Yes,

1199
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if he was because he was pretty loud

1200
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: as a commentator owner. If that turns some people off,

1201
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: which is a shame. Patrick Willis doesn't say anything, So

1202
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: where the heck is he at? That? Guys Willis and

1203
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: Zack Thomas should be on the first ballot, So next

1204
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: year it should be half bath us and those two.

1205
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: Somebody saying that nobody in the next year and not

1206
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: one person in the class next year is an automatic.

1207
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: I would ever say that. Someone didn't say that, did they? Not? Me?

1208
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: Nobody with any credibility. The first thing you have to

1209
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: look at on this is it's all pro Are you

1210
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: the best at your position? If you're the best at

1211
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: your position for any amount of time, that matters. That's

1212
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: got to matter more than anything else. Yes, yes, again,

1213
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: it's the Hall of great It's a hall of Fame,

1214
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: not the Hall of Good Alright, Patrick Wills is elite

1215
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: and how dare you argument you have Tory Holt Are

1216
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: you guys aware that? I mean, you guys are, but

1217
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: just for the folks out there, because we've always we've

1218
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: been calling there was a time we've been calling the

1219
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: half the half as long as you and I've been

1220
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: doing this show together. And at one point they were like, well,

1221
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: don't you might not want to call him that because

1222
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: maybe he's not. And first of all, he already was.

1223
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: He was already in the College Football Hall of Time.

1224
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh no, he's first ballot. And it

1225
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: was like, are you aware that he is a ten

1226
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: time All Pro, eight time first team, two time second team.

1227
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, eight time All Pro, six time first team,

1228
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: two times second and six is six is fairly all pro? Man,

1229
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: come on ten Pro Bowls in the consecutive streets, and

1230
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: when he wasn't he was second team All Pro twice twice.

1231
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: He's an eight time All Pro and he was number

1232
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: two in the Offensive Rookie of the Year voting his

1233
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: rookie year. Yes, you have to be All Pro. That's

1234
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: why I mean, honestly, the willis the Willis Zach Thomas stuff.

1235
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy because when you're talking about you're talking

1236
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: about five all five All pros. I mean, they start

1237
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: keeping track. There's a steady list of guys that have

1238
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: six All pros, first Team All Pros, and they're all

1239
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, every one of them. So

1240
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: except for Jim Tyreer. I don't know why he's not,

1241
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: but he's not. So here's what you got. Okay, to

1242
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: your point, only twenty five people have ever ever been

1243
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: more seven or more and they are all in the

1244
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame at six times. You mentioned that Shane

1245
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: Leckler also not in the Hall of Fame. Six times

1246
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: first Team All Pros, a punter. I feel like that

1247
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: should get him in there. You got the haf Jim Tryer,

1248
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: You mentioned Bobby Wagner, who will be in the Hall

1249
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: of Fame, but everybody else is six is in there,

1250
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's a lock of locks. His his

1251
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: qualifications are vastly superior to that of vas. Yes, for sure,

1252
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: Reeves four times four time All Pro sometime Pro bowler

1253
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame All two thousand tens team

1254
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: was the hop dup first bound Patrick Willis. By the way,

1255
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: I wish somebody Patrick Willis should be there too. I

1256
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: wish somebody would do. Wasn't it Bob Kravitz, who does

1257
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: Who presented Peyton Manning? And he all he said was

1258
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning. That's all he said. Done. That's enough.

1259
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: We don't it's Joe Thomas. That's enough. Hey, Stevie, let's

1260
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: play guests the stats. Can you name the two courts?

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: There are two quarterbacks that have been named All Pro

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: seven times? Only two in NFL history. They've been named

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01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: seven times or more. There's two quarterbacks in NFL history

1264
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: been named All Pro seven times. They're both seven. I

1265
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: bet you do. Yeah, there are two of them, two quarterbacks.

1266
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a trick question. I feel

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01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady is not one of them. That would

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01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: be correct. Peyton Manning correct, that's one of them. I'm

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01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: thinking back for a little bit. Got a good radio voice, Stevie.

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: I know that's why I'm here. I like it. That's

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: a good job out of him, A good job. I

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01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: like you more now, Stevie. Wow, I'm trying to think back,

1273
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: even like a little bit further. Yeah, you're in the

1274
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: right keep doing it in the right mindset. Let's kind

1275
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: of look where you need to be. I'm trying to

1276
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: be a little bit more Roger start, stop back, demerit.

1277
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: When z said, look around, look where you are? Ah,

1278
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: that would have made sense. What's a good hint? That's

1279
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: all right, So you will give you the opportunity to

1280
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: answer it though you can still answer it. You can

1281
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: say it, do you have it, Stevie? I do not

1282
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: off toe. Stevie tried to make it seem like he had,

1283
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: but he didn't know it was a good hint for

1284
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: for nothing? Plane did that lamp? Those two those are

1285
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: the sevens. Peyton Manning and Otto Gray are the first?

1286
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: Are the only seven time? Did you hear the only

1287
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of seven times or more? Did you hear that?

1288
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: I would have? Gain Jesus, that's just pure of course

1289
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: I was. There's not even a quarterback with six, So

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: those two have seven. Nobody else has six. My guess

1291
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: is that Joe's huh Montana four. I would think that

1292
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers would have because he's got four m vps,

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: doesn't he So he's got to have four. Joe's gotta

1294
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: have four. Brady's got to have three. Yeah, doesn't even

1295
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: go down there for they only listed the people that

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: the rare fighting those with six yeah, yeah, pretty amazing.

1297
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: There's some amazing tackles on this list, like Jim Parker. Uh,

1298
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 1: Anthony Moone is nine for small pros. My god, that's

1299
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: just pretty crazy. Bruce Matthews with seven. Randal McDaniel was

1300
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: a guard obviously, but I feel like Bulldog Turner was

1301
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: a force. What a name. That's a great name, great name.

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: Roger Craig in her out in in here's why he's

1303
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: a fair in A thousand, a thousand, a thousand, a thousand,

1304
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: a thousand in the eighties, guys, in the eighties. Yes,

1305
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: he only has one first team All Pro. Guess what

1306
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: wasn't even first team All Pro the year he did that,

1307
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: which to me is outrageous. Right time Pro Bowl and

1308
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: one time. I mean it's five thousands rushing nine touchdowns,

1309
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: a thousand sixteen receiving six touchdowns. He was out of

1310
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: the running back position. He had two different two thousand

1311
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage seasons in his career. That's nuts. Back then,

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01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: Marcus Allen and Walter Payton first team All Pro the

1313
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: Heady Company, What the heck did they do? I don't know.

1314
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: Roger Craig, Gerald Riggs and Freeman McNeil were second team.

1315
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: Gerald Riggs could run eighty five Bears, would have got

1316
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: that love on the eighty five Bears fifteen fifty one

1317
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: for Peyton nine touchdowns, that's pretty big at that time.

1318
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Craig's got two thousand total yards? What did ds?

1319
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: And then who was the other one? Marcus Marcus Allen

1320
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: that was peak of his powers. Ran for seventeen fifty

1321
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: nine and eleven. He had sixty seven catches for five

1322
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: fifty five as well, led the league with foty seven

1323
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: touches two thousand, fourteen yards from She was also the

1324
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: m v P the Offensive Player of the Year and

1325
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: first team by the way, the Raiders had him and

1326
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: then said, yeah, we'll take Bo Jackson too. Yeah, it's

1327
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: super tuck Mo Wilson, thank you. Yes, it did. Yes. Honestly,

1328
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: I think the only guys on this list that should

1329
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: be like in next year with Joe and Reeves are

1330
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: Zach Thomas, Patrick Willis, and then I think you could

1331
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: make an interesting conversation about Sterling Sharp if you wanted to.

1332
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: Everyone else can hang out for a little bit. All right,

1333
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: Well that's interrupt right, made an attempt. We got through it.

1334
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: You had a good job. You had a good job.

1335
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: You're slander of Patrick will still will not be forgotten

1336
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: anytime soon. No, I wasn't slandering Patrick Willis. You told

1337
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: me it was a buffoon. Dumb. I think you said

1338
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: the dum dumb. Yeah clean, I'll call you something else,

1339
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: but stop being dumb. Yeah it was. That was exactly

1340
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: what it was. We will go around the NFL. Coming

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01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: up next was to cleve the Brown's Daily on ESPN

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Speaker 1: go around the boy, I'll tell you what I was

1357
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: telling cheek to kill. Harry got hurt at Bears camp

1358
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: over the weekend, severe high ankle spray. Not that he

1359
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: was gonna be some savior. I'm almost I almost wonder

1360
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: there's no way that they can improve that team with

1361
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: Justin Fields on it because they gave up so much

1362
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: to get him that it just feels like he's going

1363
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: to be completely tasted and lost. There's just no way

1364
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: I can see him overcoming it. It's very sad, there's

1365
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Yeah, tough tough spot there. How's

1366
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: Trey Lance doing out in San Francisco? You heard for Pedro?

1367
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: I have not. What I was told was last time

1368
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: was that he uh. They are very excited about his

1369
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: raw talent, that it is his team. There's obviously some

1370
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: concerns about how quickly he can come along, but they're

1371
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: excited about what he brings in terms of his athleticism,

1372
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: He's got a cannon. Steve White was telling me he

1373
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: just has an absolute can't like the way that he

1374
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: throws the balls, just whips it. Do you think um uh,

1375
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: do you think it would be it'll be tricky at

1376
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: all given that the last time, the last times that

1377
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: they've been healthy with Garoppolo, they've been to the NFC

1378
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: championship game in the Super Bowl, that some on that

1379
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: team will look around and go, are we sure we

1380
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: got this? That's interesting thing about about Jimmy g is

1381
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think of what other quarterback in

1382
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: the league could say that in my last other than Mahomes. Right,

1383
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: Mahomes could say that, But what was the last time

1384
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: he went to the sup Was he in the Super

1385
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago? He's in the Super Bowl two

1386
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: years ago. In his last two full seasons, he's gone

1387
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl in a championship game, lost both.

1388
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: So is Jimmy Garoppolo. Those are the only two people

1389
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: that can say that, Yeah, because this year Mahomes has

1390
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: gone Brady and win it, win it, lose it a

1391
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: f C championship game. Last three years with the last

1392
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: two healthies for Garoppolo. That's what he's done. I just wondered, like,

1393
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: if you're a veteran on the fort, if you look

1394
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: around and go every time lance lets one fly and

1395
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: let's lose, You're like, boy, I don't know, do we

1396
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. This guy seemed to be pretty close

1397
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: with this guy. What they would say is we feel

1398
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: like we can get close with him and we need

1399
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: to get over the hump, and then we feel that

1400
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: this guy's got the skills to get us over the hump. Look,

1401
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: the good news for the Niners is that they play

1402
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: in the NFC, And it's kind of why open, Oh

1403
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: you're on? What sir? Do you have something? I was

1404
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: just gonna add you around the league commentary when you

1405
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: were ready. Uh, this just coming off of the call.

1406
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: I was just on. The NFL has asked officials to

1407
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: pay particular attention to illegal contact fouls in big drop

1408
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: in one classified as a point of clarification formerly known

1409
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: as point of emphasis look for a potential spike in flags.

1410
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: We also spent a lot of time on the call

1411
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: talking about hunting. Oh god, no, no, the good news

1412
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: is what's going to draw the flag from and and

1413
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: this I'm paraphrasing here. What is going to draw the

1414
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: flag is if someone takes a step towards the player

1415
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: and tries to get in that person's face. They're they're

1416
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: being told a lot to back off here. Good. The

1417
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: illegal contact thing is tough because they've already disadvantaged the

1418
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: defense significantly in the NFL, and now you're going to

1419
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 1: call a lot more legal contact, which is a penalty

1420
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: on the defense. And what are these dbs supposed to do.

1421
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: You can't touch the receivers anymore, you can't lost the quarterbacks.

1422
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: What do you want him to do? What do you

1423
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: want him to do? Um? Illegal contact? Any contact that

1424
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: occurs more than five yards down the field. Right by

1425
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: the way, speaking of your taunting thing, you see what

1426
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: ruled it over the weekend to Baker in Hollywood. I

1427
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: did so Hollywood reached the ball over the end zone,

1428
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: he scored, and he did the red carpet thing in

1429
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: a script. Then he gave the ball to a fan

1430
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: in the stands whatever, And so you know, everybody celebrates

1431
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: and rule blows the whistle on it and says we're

1432
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: not doing that. Offense runs and it's something about the

1433
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 1: tough guy, chill out a little bit, right, it's a scrimmage.

1434
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: It worked out really well for Joe Judge last year

1435
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: the Giants. I'm telling you, if you're going to take

1436
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: that stance, you better be Belichick Saban like you gotta have.

1437
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: You gotta be somebody like that if you're gonna take

1438
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: that staff. I feel like there are a lot of

1439
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: these guys that think Bill Belichick wins because he's mean

1440
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: and because he's nasty and demanding, when in reality, probably

1441
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: wins in spite of that because he's just so darned good. Correct,

1442
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: and he had the best quarterback of all time for

1443
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: twenty years. That's right, because before and after it hasn't

1444
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: been that great useful. That seemed to be important. They

1445
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: did go eleven and five with Matt Castle, which is

1446
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: pretty impressive to me. They did, they did, and I

1447
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: believe Matt Castle got paid as a result. Somewhere the

1448
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: previous previous other than that one's anomaly season wasn't it

1449
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: was Randa still on that team, Random Moss I believe

1450
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: he was. I believe Random Moss was on that team

1451
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: with Matt Castle. I believe he was because that was

1452
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: right after Brady through for the fifty touchdowns, wasn't it

1453
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: When they lost the perfect season the next year, Bernard

1454
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: Pollard got him. Yeah. Uh something to watch in New Orleans. Uh,

1455
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston rolling his ankle today undergoing further evaluation, Andy

1456
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: Dalton QB one from them. Then I put I push

1457
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: all in, I push all in. I go Taysom Hill

1458
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: for the year. I go two in fifto good and

1459
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: they and Thomas and if he's done, I'd bring Jimmy

1460
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: G in. And you can absolutely can do that too. Division.

1461
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: You're fighting to win the division and you go second. Yeah,

1462
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: that's a perfect chimera. You got some receivers who worked

1463
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the field well and Thomas and Jarvis,

1464
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: which is where he likes to throw the ball, and

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Speaker 1: you've got that's a really good receiving corps. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go get Jimmy g. They should have done that anyway.

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: Jamis is good. Come on, you can't turn you know.

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Speaker 1: I was big Jamis guy until last year though, Dude,

1469
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: last year when I watched him play, it was a debacle. Debacle.

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Speaker 1: Let me, it's just in his defense, just to be

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Speaker 1: kind to him. He was five and two in those

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Speaker 1: seven games. Fourteen touchdowns, three picks. It wasn't That doesn't

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01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: do the story. Brother, I'm telling you, feels pretty good

1474
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: quarterback riding a hundred and three. I mean, it wasn't pretty.

1475
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't like they was. He was throwing the ball

1476
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: all around the yard. But you know it's far cry

1477
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: from the ear through for five thousand touchdowns. But if

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: you told me that Jamis Winson would go from a

1479
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: season in which he threw thirty three touchdowns and thirty

1480
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: picks and then throw fourteen with three, that's probably when

1481
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: five and two, I'll admit that's better than I thought

1482
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: than in my mind's eye it was. And it might

1483
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: have been just I watched him play one game and

1484
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: it was a disaster. Yeah, I can't remember what game

1485
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: it was, but I just remember coming in here on

1486
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: a Monday. It was in the afternoon window and you

1487
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: that's a window that's tough for you. And I'm like, buddy,

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it ain't it. Five and two, two touchdowns,

1489
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: the game not bad? Not bad. J K. Dobbins off

1490
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: the publist. He's taking a victory lab today and you're

1491
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: getting to fight with the reporter about was it with

1492
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: Rappaport he was fighting with and then is that about.

1493
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 1: That's when he said that Dobbins wouldn't be ready, and

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01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: Dobbins came back and said, right back to rap seat,

1495
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: I would And then McAfee was talking about how Dobbin's

1496
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: dunked all over wrap up. Yea, yeah, that's a that's

1497
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna they're gonna be. You're gonna have to deal

1498
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: with them in the regular season to say that. They

1499
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: did say that they do not believe that um Gus

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: Edwards will be ready week one. Okay, okay, right, A

1501
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: couple of anomalies. We have Derrick Henry breaking a helmet

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01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: with a stiff arm at yesterday's practice. What does that mean?

1503
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: You just hit? I don't know, and I don't know

1504
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: what that means either. We all have those padded things

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01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: now on on our helmets. Now, well, if you would

1506
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: have to have been on a dB because they wouldn't

1507
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: have been wearing that. And then you know the Guardian

1508
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: Caps Guardian Caps. Yeah those are good. Yeah, I like

1509
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: those things. This also from Chief safety Justin red He

1510
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: nailed a sixty five yard field goal yesterday's practice. Yeah, incredible.

1511
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: He's got a big leg You don't say, I do.

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. When he's done playing safety, maybe in

1513
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: kick us him a kickoff specialist. I thought, wasn't there

1514
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: when he was in Houston, right, yeah, he was, wasn't there?

1515
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: He was trying There was a game where their kicker,

1516
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: like Firebaron, got hurt and he wanted to kick and

1517
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: I think he did kickoffs, but they maybe they wouldn't

1518
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: try a field goal with him, huh. I mean, if

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01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: you make from sixty five to me, that would be

1520
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: a pretty good indicator that you could go that he's

1521
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: got some skills. Sure, sure, for sure, all right, um,

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Speaker 1: all right, ESPN dot Com NFL's best players at every

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Speaker 1: dot Com. NFL's Best Players ever at every defensive position?

1537
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: Is the question on this all time best defense and

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: why it's it's yes, but they're only picking one at

1539
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: each spot, which I don't get. Why don't we do

1540
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: the like detail? Yeah, it's not just one. So first

1541
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: of all, like right away, we got to decide what

1542
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: we're doing with Lawrence Taylor, who's in a three or

1543
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: four outside linebacker edge, but he's you know, it's a

1544
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: different position than the position. He plays it very differently

1545
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: than say Reggie White played it. Reggie White was a

1546
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 1: defensive end too, but was so kind of a defense

1547
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: kind of defensive and inside a little bit like J. J. Watt.

1548
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: So that's the tricky thing there. I think any time

1549
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: I've seen an All NFL team, Lawrence Taylor's listed as

1550
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker, right but that's edges encompassing right now,

1551
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm just saying, like, when you call

1552
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: him an edge. You're taking out all the other defensive

1553
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: ends that are traditional defensive end. Bruce Smith might be

1554
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: the best can in the ground sometimes not all the times,

1555
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: but stand up on the line defensive solf um, Lawrence

1556
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Taylor is is the best defensive player I've ever seen.

1557
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: He's dominant. I mean, Reggie White twelve double digit sex

1558
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: seasons in fifteen years, Lawrence Taylor at seven and thirteen years.

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01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: You could argue that Taylor flash the Brice, but White

1560
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: was a relentless, unstoppable force for the better part of

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01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: two decades. White unbelievable pay, Our defensive Player of the

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01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: Year's thirteen All Pros and a Super Bowl ring that's

1563
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: obviously not first team only. Reggie White, though, is eight

1564
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: First Team All Pros. Guess who else has eight? Somebody

1565
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: else you mentioned Bruce Smith as All Pros. Lawrence Taylor

1566
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: has eight First Team All Pros. Bruce Smith was really

1567
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: really good. Yes he was Yes, yes he was um.

1568
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna see ce to to me like

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01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, Reggie White feel very different to me as

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01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: a player than Lawrence Taylor. Yes, I would, in fact

1571
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: wanna in my mind, I wanted I'd have Bruce Smith

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01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: on one outside, Lawrence Taylor on the other outside, and

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01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: then i'd have inside Reggie White at D and Aaron Donald,

1574
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: and I think we'd be pretty and we're leaving Joe

1575
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: Green off. I think we'd be pretty good. We are

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01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: leaving Joe Green off. Which you know, Aaron Donald has

1577
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: more All Pros. He's seven First Team All Pros. Now

1578
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: for Aaron Donald seven, eight, seven and eight seasons for

1579
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: the three Defensive Player of the Year awards. Yeah, yeah, Joe,

1580
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: don't see Joe Green. It doesn't look like Joe Green

1581
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: has six. All Right, he's there. You go. You got

1582
01:23:52,960 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: you got Donald, Donald, White, Smith, Taylor. Yep. Well, good

1583
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: with that. Linebackers, So they have Ray Lewis is the

1584
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: number one linebacker. He was really really good. I'm sure.

1585
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think Mike Singletary right away, Mike

1586
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Singletary has seven First Team All Pros. That's the first

1587
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: linebacker I thought of. Ray has seven Team seven first

1588
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 1: he's got seven to Yep. Yeah, they both have seven.

1589
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're both very good. Yeah, they are. Is

1590
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: there anybody we're missing that is that's in that both

1591
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: of those Steelers guys have six. Hammond at some point,

1592
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: Bob Wagner has got to be He's six right now,

1593
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: but he does even get a vote. He's not even

1594
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: considered anything. Yeah, ray Lewis, huh, two time Defensive Player

1595
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: of the Year. Only player in NFL history have forty

1596
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: six and thirty interceptions in a career. That's pretty good. Yeah,

1597
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: that is that is very very good alright, corner and

1598
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not fifty out of fifty to

1599
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: me stunning. Who else is in that in the corner spot?

1600
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: Who's the opposite corner to Dion Chucky Wood? Rod Woodson?

1601
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: Rod Woodson is probably more accomplished than Chucky. People forget

1602
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: how good Rod would? I think grab Rod Woodson has

1603
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: got six first Team All pros. I just Chucky would.

1604
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: Some of the Rod Woodsons could have been at safety,

1605
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: but some of the Chucky woods could have been at

1606
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: safety too, So they probably Chucky wood three time first

1607
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: Team All Pro, nine time Pro bowler. Yeah, so Rod

1608
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: would win that battle. He would as that in my head.

1609
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: Darryl Green was incredible. That didn't but I don't see

1610
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: him on here at all. And maybe that's just maybe

1611
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: just that was the longevity of it all. Reevus. I

1612
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: mean Revus in his prime might be the other guy.

1613
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: It might be Dion and Reevus in his primes is

1614
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: four time first team yep, four time for him. And

1615
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: what did you say Woodson was I'll can look up

1616
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: and see which ones were where Rod Woodson? And then

1617
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: I think the safety one is really tough. I know

1618
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: of the two safeties would be so first team. He

1619
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: has won at free safety as a member of the Raiders,

1620
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: the first team. All the others were so he has

1621
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: five at corner with the Steelers. He was first team

1622
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 1: All Pro five out of six years as a cornerback.

1623
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: Pretty good, so that that's probably it. Then it's probably

1624
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: him and him and Dion are the starting corners. Ronnie

1625
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Lotts the strong and I would just put Ed Reid

1626
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: as the free and I'm done, done, f Fien. That's it. Yep, yep, Yeah,

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: that's that's the way that I do that. I don't

1628
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to go beyond that.

1629
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody I'm missing at safety,

1630
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: it's out there was great, But Ronnie Lotten, right, I

1631
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: could cover like a corner because he also played some

1632
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 1: corner Um, yeah, those seem like the two guys to me.

1633
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Um then a Tierry is kicker boy, old boy in

1634
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: Baltimore would be tough to beat. He so he beat

1635
01:26:53,880 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: him by one vote. I think I I I mean Venny' Terry.

1636
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 1: He's got the clutch postseason stuff. But to me, just

1637
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: in terms of just watching them kick five five time

1638
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: All Pro for Tucker one percent of his field goals

1639
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: best in NFL history. He's made fifty eight straight field

1640
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: goals in the fourth quarter in overtime, including that sixty

1641
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: six yard or last year. He's the best. If you

1642
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: said my life was on the line and I needed

1643
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: one person on this planet to make a field goal

1644
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: to save me in their prime, absolutely peak of their powers.

1645
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking, without question, justin Tucker. I have no problem

1646
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: with that. I have no problems with no question. Yeah,

1647
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: I'd probably go the same way. And they have Devin

1648
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: Hester as the kick returner. No problem with that either, none.

1649
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: He should have been a first ballot he's not in yet.

1650
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: Where was he on that list he should be? He

1651
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: was nowhere. How is he not a first ballot? He's

1652
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: the best returner ever. Insane? Yeah, silly, very very silly.

1653
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: All right, so much more to come. Hes to cle

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Speaker 1: Uh So we'll be back out there tomorrow, Coach to

1661
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: Fansky around one thirty. Yeah, which will be the last

1662
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: time he speaks before Jackson will. So you wonder if

1663
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: he'll give any uh insight into his plans for that

1664
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: particular contest, or he'll keep it close to the best.

1665
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: And can I give you what I think Option B.

1666
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: I think that's more likely, knowing I think it's gonna

1667
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: be option as we know him that there there, there's

1668
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be a lot. I think the people will try,

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01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: you'll try to get to the bottom of things, but

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Speaker 1: you know, from his perspective, there's no gain in it.

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Speaker 1: So I get he will say, we haven't, we haven't

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Speaker 1: even we're just trying to have a great practice today,

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Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to that. We'll get that exactly the

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow. Yes, sorry that we won't be speaking at

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Speaker 1: that point, even though a yes, this has been I

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Speaker 1: bet this is, this has been laid out contingency upon contingent,

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Speaker 1: contingency before. It's one of the three P. Yeah, full us.

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Speaker 1: We don't the piece. Of course, we've done the work

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Speaker 1: on the pieces. You've got a plan and a process

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Speaker 1: to implement the plan. Plan shows up in two of

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Speaker 1: the three piece. Absolutely. Yeah, that's the way that it works.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty straightforward. All right. We are back tomorrow. The

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Speaker 1: next level is coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody.

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