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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I said, I loss nandas Plase. Hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Ross and welcome to Ghosted by us Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, one of my dear friends, Bob the

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Speaker 1: drag Queen, is on the pod today, who, of course

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Speaker 1: you know from winning RuPaul's Drag Race, the TV show

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Speaker 1: We're Here Traders. And she's got a new book coming out.

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Speaker 1: Very excit for Bob. And how's a good story she's got.

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Speaker 1: She's got a good one. You're gonna enjoy this episode,

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Speaker 1: I think. Of course, I wanted to tell you that

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Speaker 1: I'm going on tour doing stand up in primarily gay bars,

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Speaker 1: all over America. I'm coming near where you live, most likely,

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Speaker 1: so go to Rozhernandez tour dot com. I've got dates

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Speaker 1: in May. I even have Oh my gosh, I added

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Speaker 1: Portland in June. I'm sure I've added more, all of July,

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Speaker 1: all of August. I'm all over the place, so come

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Speaker 1: see me. I won't be talking about ghosts a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I'll be you know, talking about things. We'll be laughing,

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Speaker 1: We'll be having fun. Let's hear a ghost story. Here's

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Speaker 1: a ghost story from a listener named Will. Sort of

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Speaker 1: a long one, but you know it's a good one,

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Speaker 1: so stay with me. Well, writes Hey, raz. I love

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Speaker 1: the show and it's a weekly highlight for me. I

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Speaker 1: thought i'd write in to share some of the haunted

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Speaker 1: home over the years. I grew up in a cottage

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Speaker 1: nine and members of my family have lived in it

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Speaker 1: for roughly one hundred and fifty years. The first spirit

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Speaker 1: my mom and my gran my dad's mom. They both

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Speaker 1: they had seen the same thing. As my mom describes it,

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Speaker 1: She said the old lady smiled at her and then

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Speaker 1: Will Will really gave it to us with the typing

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years. So we're gonna get We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear about the other spirit in this house next week,

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Speaker 1: so tune in for that, thank you will. Let's get

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Speaker 1: it on over to my conversation with Bob the Drag Queen.

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Speaker 1: On with this show, Bob the Drag Queen. Everybody, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hey Mary, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Is Mary right? It's ro.

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Speaker 1: It's it. But I'm a big fan of Hamburger Mary's.

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Speaker 2: Did you have you worked at Hamburger Mary's?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been trying to get Roz to get back

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Speaker 2: into drag, but she just kind of won't do it.

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Speaker 2: But she also low Ki wants to be a miscontinental,

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Speaker 1: Like afraid to do it. No, what you do?

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Speaker 2: You want to be a miscontinental more than you want

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Speaker 1: I could never compete with Miss Continental now. That attitude, Well,

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Speaker 2: Well you could, you could, you could pretend to be

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Speaker 2: think you could do for this podcast Has a Ghost

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Speaker 2: Has a Ghost Hunter? Ever? Won Miscontinental? You need to

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll be my talent in

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Speaker 1: the Miscontinental pageant. I will go on stage.

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Speaker 2: The ghost of former miscontinentals.

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Speaker 1: I'll see if I can conjure up the ghost that

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Speaker 1: famously called me slurs, and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever find the name of the ghost?

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Speaker 1: Bob?

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Speaker 2: It was you? That was That was just me walking

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Speaker 2: by your bunk on the on the bus, just whispering, faggot.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Bob and I did well. We weirdly

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Speaker 2: Road, and you're kind enough to accept.

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Speaker 1: And we then we randomly went on a cruise together

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Speaker 1: when we were on the tour, we went to you know,

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Speaker 1: every time I perform in a big theater, I ask

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Speaker 1: if it's haunted, and they were pretty much all haunted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all theaters are haunted. That's what they say.

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Speaker 1: That's what they said.

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Speaker 2: But people aren't dying in the theaters, are they? As

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Speaker 2: do ghosts just love live theater.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I'm most like are ghosts?

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Speaker 2: Like, no, I actually died at a said go around the corner.

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Speaker 2: But I just love life theater.

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Speaker 1: When i'm there, people, someone's dying on stage.

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Speaker 2: I don't know there were ghosts, but were you went?

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Speaker 2: They kept hearing boo, Wow.

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Speaker 1: That was just me from the wings though, Yeah, exactly, no. People,

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Speaker 1: there's every single old theater somebody died. They were reckless

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Speaker 1: eighteen hundred's turn of the century. These people were out

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Speaker 2: Every production with Spider Man turn Off the Dark.

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Speaker 1: It literally was. But like they're special effects. I've heard

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Speaker 1: so many stories of these old theaters where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: How'd you go about dying on stage?

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Speaker 1: I have?

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Speaker 2: Are we basically the same age? I'm a little older

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Speaker 1: You're older than me a little not much. No, you're

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Speaker 1: you're quite older than me.

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Speaker 2: I can google your age. You're famous enough for me

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Speaker 2: to be able to google your age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can google my net worth too, And

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Speaker 1: I don't recommend you take either of those.

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Speaker 2: This truth Roserlandez. It says that you were. It says

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Speaker 2: you'r the comedian and semi retired drag queen.

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Speaker 1: It's a semi retired, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Semi retired drag performer shares the spooky origins of her

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Speaker 1: Podcast semi sized drag queen.

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Speaker 2: Your age is actually hard to find than I thought

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Speaker 2: it would be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not famous, That's why, Bob. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a queak out winner. Yet you look like I.

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Speaker 2: Did a Mitel in this picture they have of you

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Speaker 2: on IMDb. Bob, let it go, you do. I'm not

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Speaker 2: the first one I tell you like I did a Mizelle.

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Speaker 2: There's no way. I'm the first person to ever say

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Speaker 2: a Mistel. There's no way.

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Speaker 1: I usually here, Leah Michelle, I hear.

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Speaker 2: But they look alike though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, Bob, listen, we are here to

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Speaker 1: talk about ghosts. That's the reason that I invited you here.

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Speaker 2: So the last thing here are biographies are us. It

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Speaker 2: says you are twenty eight to thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Old work, so it is right, So it is accurate.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eight to thirty is, so.

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Speaker 1: It's accurate.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed, but that is no way that's true. But

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Speaker 2: I am obsessed with twenty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 1: That is, say how much money I have?

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Speaker 2: I can google that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do rouse Hernada's networks, because talk about this is paranormal.

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Speaker 2: Here, your net worth is three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's less than the real number?

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Speaker 2: Ganggang, Can I borrow some money please?

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Speaker 1: Now? Not true, But what is true always is people's

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Speaker 1: Where are you at on any of that stuff? Do

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Speaker 2: Well, I have had paranormal occurrences in my life and

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Speaker 1: Like everything not everything happens for a reason, but.

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Speaker 1: I know that that's where all of that can get difficult,

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Speaker 1: because then you go, Okay, why did this? Why get

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Speaker 2: That the other kids can see how great life is. Well,

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Speaker 1: Cancer exactly exactly, So I get that for sure. Do

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Speaker 1: you does that have anything to do with like coincidences?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think that there's any truth to

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Speaker 2: because the Sun and the do you get what I'm.

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Speaker 2: No other planet where the Moon goes between the Earth

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Speaker 2: Well, I thinkbout the fact that if I was born

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack wi b us, she is still alive, and

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Speaker 2: It's the you know what she says in Gypsy, I

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Speaker 1: Them, you know, Okay, Like, how about this to make

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Speaker 2: Like? Wow, I feel lucky that I had, Like I

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Speaker 2: But also all the talents queens who moved to New

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Speaker 1: You know, right, tell me a ghost story.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a ghost story, but when, uh,

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Speaker 2: So I would call it a paranormal activity more than

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 1: If there's anyone in this world that could tell you

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Speaker 2: So when I was eight years old, I was living

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Speaker 2: it was a white man's feet. He came to He

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Speaker 2: And he said, don't go to Mississippi this summer. Your

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Speaker 2: My mom was like, don't be ridiculous. I said no.

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Speaker 2: An angel came down. He told me that we can't

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Speaker 2: Liz is gonna die. And we did go that summer,

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Speaker 2: That's a true story.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: The reason why I think it was sleep paralysis and

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Speaker 2: But he looked like the real life version of that.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe it was him. Listen, you can't just make

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Speaker 2: You never know. And also I was a kid who

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Speaker 1: Too, what, Bob, you are a psychic?

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Speaker 2: Like on three or four occasions, I remember telling my

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Speaker 2: three the three ball. Oh you got to play these numbers,

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Speaker 1: See there, you'll hear from some psychics that will be like,

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Speaker 2: So do you go see the future of these ghost

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know who knows that one whatever you

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Speaker 1: encountered clearly saw the future. But what that is like,

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Speaker 1: my mind is blown. This is a good one, Bob.

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Speaker 2: And what makes it really interesting that my grandmother was

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Speaker 2: So it was it was.

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Speaker 1: Heart attack, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Or gang violence. I'll let you decide. And okay, it

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Speaker 2: was a heart attack. My grandma was a crip and

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Speaker 2: the bloods were sick of it. No, it was my

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Speaker 2: Wow whah, And it was out of nowhere. If there

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Speaker 1: But let me ask this, if you didn't go, she

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: According to the ghost.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the angel didn't. Angel did not say if you go,

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Speaker 2: He said, don't go. Your grandmother will die.

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Speaker 2: And I actually wasn't there. My brother was there when

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Speaker 2: And then I remember them coming in and being like,

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Speaker 1: That is so crazy and so nothing like this has

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Speaker 2: Again. Well, when I was like twenty or nineteen years old,

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Speaker 2: And have you ever had sleep proalysis before?

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Speaker 1: Never? Not once?

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Speaker 2: I have it constantly.

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Speaker 1: You sleep on your back, huh I should?

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Speaker 2: I try to, but sometimes it happens on my side too.

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Speaker 2: It's actually scarier when it happens on your side than

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Speaker 1: The wall behind you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was lying in bed on my back

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Speaker 2: this time, like always.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of the stories you tell.

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Speaker 2: And the room got really really cold, if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 2: Sleep paralysis is terrifying. Like when you have sleep paralysis,

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Speaker 2: you have this immense sense of fear. You feel so afraid.

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Speaker 2: It feels like something's coming to get you. It's scary

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Speaker 2: I see it as you sure.

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00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing with sleep paralysis. It's one

440
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 1: of one of these things where you can explain it

441
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: away by science. So this happens when whatever. But I

442
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: think it could be also paranormal at the same time,

443
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Like I think that that could be a ghost.

444
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: Do you know that there was There's like stories of

445
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: people who they went to a coma and then they

446
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: they were in the coma for like a week or

447
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: a month or something, and then when they came to

448
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: they were like, oh my god, where's my family? Like

449
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: in the coma they lived an entire life, like died

450
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: at eighty. So the mind is obviously incredibly powerful, right,

451
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: So that's why I think that some people who have

452
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: who have come close to passing away or passed way

453
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: and came back. Your mind creates a reality for you.

454
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: Our time is completely distorted and whatever you think you're seeing,

455
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: And because our brains are essentially made of the exact

456
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: same manner or the same material, that's why when you're

457
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: all high, you're having similar experiences and similar feelings, and

458
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: you see similar waves and lights and stuff. Because our

459
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: brains are made of the same thing, We're all having

460
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: very similar experiences, and that is what we think is

461
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: the religious experience.

462
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: I have talked. Are you saying religion isn't real?

463
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: I am saying that emphatically.

464
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: I have talked to so many millennials, and I've mentioned

465
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: this on the podcast probably multiple times.

466
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: Are you gonna Are you gonna make a judgment on

467
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: my experience? If it was a ghost or if it

468
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: was a demon, you didn't make any judgment.

469
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, a ghost.

470
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 2: Not an angel, not a demon, not a poultry.

471
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: Guist, not a poultr geist. Poultry geist translates to noisy ghost,

472
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: and it usually is not connected to a human like being.

473
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: It's usual, just like someone throwing shit or somehow shit

474
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: gets thrown. An angel sure feels a little religious to me,

475
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: But why not? Or is that just a good ghost

476
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: or like you know, a ghost with special powers.

477
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm not ghost for telling the future. Because this ghost

478
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: told me your grandma got another summer.

479
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: That is avarition, right, Yeah, maybe that is an angel.

480
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Now when you think about something, Wait,

481
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: I have a point that I was about to make though,

482
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: But but also when you think, okay, that's an angel,

483
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: does that make you think, well, then that maybe that

484
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: means Jesus is real or like.

485
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: Because I think Jesus. I feel pretty certain that Jesus

486
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: did exist and walk the earth, and historians are pretty uh,

487
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: they have a general consensus yeah that he wasted.

488
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but what about this the powers.

489
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: Charlatan and a scam artist probably yeah?

490
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Well okay, So what I was gonna say is about

491
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: then I've talked about this before a lot of people

492
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: give or take why I was gonna say our age,

493
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: But according to the Internet, I'm not really in this category.

494
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: But saw the Ring and the Grudge at like a

495
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: preteen kind of age, teen whatever, and it really stuck

496
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: with them. And so many people will tell me sleep

497
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: proless the stories where it's that they see the girl

498
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: with the long hair. Now was this girl was she

499
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: out there trying to do this before those movies came out?

500
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: Or is this just that's what we think of as

501
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: the scariest fucking thing ever because it was so traumatic

502
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: for us to see us at that age in like.

503
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: Two hundred years, are ghosts gonna show up wearing skinny jeans?

504
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: I feel like there was a ghost and a pair

505
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: of big, oversized baggy pants and it had a middle

506
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: part and it was really scary. Of course it was

507
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: holding a Stanley cup. I'm so scared. You know.

508
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: What I think about more so is like people that

509
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: are like really into extreme like body modification and stuff.

510
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you see like, ooh, this man, he lives

511
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: his life as a snake or whatever. If that man's

512
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: ghost came back in the middle of the night, that

513
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: would be very startling.

514
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: When you come back as a ghost, how do you

515
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: want to up hear? Do you think that? Is this

516
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: your peak form right now? Is it like a year ago?

517
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: You said that, Really it's with a tone. You said

518
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: that with a tone. I think I would want to

519
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: come back dressed like a Dina Menzell, and I want people.

520
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: Right now so this very moment.

521
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: What first of all, this look is Adele deseame, which

522
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: is different your hipster a. This is Adele disease, not

523
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: quite a Dina Menzell.

524
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Silver like silver like a Dnamozelle is adultaza.

525
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: Wow, Bob, these I'm actually really impressed by your stories.

526
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: Can't I can't believe it's taken seven years to get

527
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: you on this podcast.

528
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the experiences are the I had the experience.

529
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: Did it really happen? I don't know. I think it

530
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: was of my mind. I have a very creative mind.

531
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: It just greats stuff even without my consent. But I

532
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: still don't think I saw a ghost though.

533
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: The fact that there's the prediction element to the one

534
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

535
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes it really weird.

536
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: That's really crazy. And also why did that angel only

537
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: tell you that thing but not other things?

538
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: He just had a message to send me, but I

539
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: didn't listen. Well, i'd listen. My mom didn't listen.

540
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: But still it's like, I don't know, it's weird. It

541
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: seems like there could be so many other things that

542
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: could have warned you about throughout your life.

543
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Or he could have been he could have been like

544
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: something's gonna come. It's gonna be called bitcoin and invest early.

545
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: That would have been great.

546
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's very strange, But you

547
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: know what, that's what's fun about this. We don't know.

548
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: We don't know. If we did, I wouldn't have a podcast.

549
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: This is true.

550
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Bob. One thing that's always very real and accurate.

551
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: We look at haunted dolls on this podcast. Can I

552
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: show you a doll that's currently for sale on eBay

553
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: right now?

554
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Shows me.

555
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living?

556
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to prison. You're going to prison, Bob.

557
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: We like to look at these haunted dolls. I just

558
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: go to eBay dot com. I type and haunted doll.

559
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: This one it's going for fifty five dollars.

560
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: That's not a bad price.

561
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Her name's Maria. Show us Maria Gieha, you got it rise?

562
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: So what's she haunted with?

563
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: She definitely I'm guessing she's like a paper mache doll

564
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: you would get in Mexico. There is a cultural element

565
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: to her.

566
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: Can we click on one of her body please? Yeah? Yeah,

567
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: now I see yeah, yeah, that she's she seemed to

568
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: be wearing like some sort of a traditional Latin American

569
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: garment and she's it's like a big, big, flowy skirt

570
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 2: and it's the color of candy corn with one random

571
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: like I'm colorblind, what's that one strip at the bottom,

572
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: second the bottoms with a green So it's candy corn

573
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: with a green strip at the bottom and she's holding

574
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: the dress up as if she's either walking or performing

575
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: some sort of a dance.

576
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually have a lot. I kind of collect

577
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: these I have, Like every time I got to Mexico,

578
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I usually get like a Dia delis mortos or something

579
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: type paper mache doll like this. She's not yes, I am.

580
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, She's gonna say otherwise, you're just like a culture vulture.

581
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: But you're a Mexican, so we will permiss it.

582
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Thank you you. She's not going strong on the makeup.

583
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: She basically is just doing a lash and a lip.

584
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: But that lower liner is really cut. That lower liner

585
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: is giving down.

586
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Because she's doing the little where it extends underneath in

587
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: the corner.

588
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: And I like that for sure.

589
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: Okay, now here's the thing. So she is haunted. There

590
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: is a spirit inside of her, and the spirit inside

591
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: of her, well, let me just read you because it

592
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: comes with a bio. Maria is larger than life, and

593
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: even death couldn't dim her spotlight. From the moment I

594
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: began working with her, I knew she was fabulous, dramatic

595
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: and absolutely unforgettable. Some spirits whisper, some spirits linger in

596
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: the background, but Maria. Maria struts in, steals the scene

597
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: and demands her standing ovation. She's not shy, not subtle,

598
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: and definitely not for the fame of heart. If you

599
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: welcome Maria into your space, expect sass, expect glamour, and

600
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: expect to feel a little bit more fabulous just by

601
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: being in her presence.

602
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Is Maria the spirit or is she the doll?

603
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: The spirit inside of the doll?

604
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Is Maria?

605
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: So this is all real. She was a drag queen.

606
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: You feel like she was a drag queen.

607
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: This is what this says. It says she was drag queen,

608
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: a queen of the nightlife and a soul who lived

609
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: for the electric thrill of the stage.

610
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Some assuming she's a doll from PV. It could be.

611
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Yes, She's a Portavarta drag queen, possibly that has found

612
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: her way in here. She passed around her thirties or forties.

613
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: But she does not dwell on sadness. She refuses to

614
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: be remembered in sorrow. She wants to be remembered in glory, power,

615
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: in sequence and rhyme stones.

616
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: There are no sequence or ryanstones anywhere on the all.

617
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: There's got to be a doll in Mexico that has

618
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: sequences of Ryan Stones on it, like it was she

619
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: did she wish she was just like a last minute

620
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: by This is where is there a buyer's remorse?

621
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: This is the closest doll she was able to find,

622
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: because I do think it's like, Okay, I'm a ghost

623
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: and I'm floating around. Where do I go? And then

624
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: like you just have to find what doll you can?

625
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: You can and you jump in.

626
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't possess a doll. I would possess a speaker,

627
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: like a Bluetooth speaker.

628
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, that would be fun.

629
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Electronics turning on by themselves, it's scarier

630
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: than like an an anim an object slightly rotating at

631
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: like one degree. Mm, yeah, you been home? You ever

632
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: been home when the TV turned on byself?

633
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: No? But my home's not haunted. Why does that happen

634
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: in your home?

635
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: Uh? It's maybe happened like once or twice, not my

636
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: current home. But sometimes my boyfriend would do this thing

637
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: where he stands right outside of the home, like outside

638
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: the door, and he will turn on the Google Home

639
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: and have it play Beyonce's Dun Crazy I Love, and

640
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: then he marches to the house, open the door, and

641
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: it stops around the house and whenever I'm not prepared

642
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: for it's very scary.

643
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: That's fun. So back to this doll, I'm kind of

644
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: convinced that this is one of these cases that maybe

645
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: this makes me sound full of myself, but I think

646
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: that they're I'm I am suspicious of people that want

647
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: to have a thing on this podcast because they know

648
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for funny dolls that are haunted for sale.

649
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: This one sounds real spot on. It sounds like girl,

650
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: she's a drag queen, but it says that she is

651
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: good for somebody that is a performer likes to be

652
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: on stage. I mean, it could be fun to have

653
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: her around.

654
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: Do you think these people are targeting you? They listen

655
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: to like, oh roswal By.

656
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: This, Well, they're like, oh, she'll feature this on the podcast.

657
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: She'll love that. She'll get a kick out of this one.

658
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: Do you ever buy any of them?

659
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, although my manager did buy me one and

660
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: and not a damn thing has happened since it's been

661
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: at my home.

662
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: But do you like having it there? No? I do not.

663
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: Is your manager listening?

664
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Probably?

665
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: You can't just tell people you don't want their gifts.

666
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

667
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: No, he knows I didn't want that. Wow, he did. See.

668
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Here's here's a problem that I deal with a lot, Bob,

669
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: is that, first of all, people think that I'm spooky

670
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: and scary, which I'm not. I like to talk about

671
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: spooky as scary things. Okay, I don't.

672
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm not.

673
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: I ain't no goth. Yeah, my hair is black, but

674
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: that's just naturally how it is. I can't.

675
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: It is my hair black? Yes? Do I hit my

676
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: nose black? Yes, I've been wearing black lipstick. Yes. Do

677
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: I wear a colder everycasion? Yes? I do. Am I

678
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: holding a book of Satanic rituals? Yes, I'm not goth.

679
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: You've never seen me do any of those things. Besides

680
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: having black hair, I wear hot pink, I wear razzle, dazzle.

681
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: Y'all. Go to my Twitter right now, I have a

682
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: footage of Rods performing a Satanic ritual addressed in all black. Yeah,

683
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: but that's just because what's your favorite movie? Though?

684
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: First of all, that was one time, and so now

685
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm spooky because one time I did a

686
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Satanic ritual.

687
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: Your favorite movie will tell us if you're gothing that

688
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: what's your favorite movie?

689
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: My favorite movie? Honestly, it's probably Boogie Nights, But I

690
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I love I love the first hour of

691
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: show Girls. But you do like the Craft though, Yeah,

692
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: I like the Craft, and you watch Wicked. I still

693
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: have not seen Wicked.

694
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: You're the one one member of the queer community and

695
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: I who haven't seen Wicked yet, and we've been looking

696
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: for this person NonStop and I can't believe I have

697
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: actually found them. This is crazy.

698
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: This sounds like a witch hunt.

699
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: You should just be a witch. You have all the aesthetic.

700
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: Just be a witch already.

701
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think witchcraft is interesting. I've dabbled, for sure,

702
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: But I'm not spooky, and I don't think witchcraft is

703
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: necessarily spooky. I think at the end of the day,

704
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: most of it is like pretty. It's pretty. It's like candles,

705
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: it's oils, it's you burn things, it smells nice. It's

706
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: not necessarily like around a culdron lit. I mean it

707
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: could be.

708
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, have you ever had a spell put

709
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: on you before?

710
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I hope not. Let's not encourage that. But you know,

711
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: Jinx is a huge witch, and she's not spooky either.

712
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: She's advertised a huge.

713
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: Bob I got I guess is a big fat witch.

714
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: I got another thing for you, you some ghost voices.

715
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Of course, it's time for EVP or ev Please. Have

716
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: you ever heard the term EVP?

717
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: No? Okay, I guess electron Let me guess electronic voice projections, not.

718
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: Bad, electronic voice phenomenal?

719
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: Got it? God? Okay?

720
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: So this is basically any time of a voice is

721
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: captured that is not connected to a human body and

722
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: then people go, it's a ghost. Okay, So it could be,

723
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, just somebody filming on their camera on their

724
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: on a recordings advice. And there's thousands of these on YouTube,

725
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: and I have two of them for you. I'm going

726
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: to play you the EVP and I want you to

727
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: tell me what you hear, and then I'm going to

728
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: give you an abc D one of you know, one

729
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: of them is the correct answer of what they believe

730
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: the ghost is saying.

731
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: Got it?

732
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay? So this first one was posted by after Dark

733
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Club Paranormal Adventures. The location unknown. What is this ghost saying?

734
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: Play again?

735
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know if their smoke detector

736
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: is going off.

737
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: I thought this ghost to saying harder. I think this

738
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: is a bottom ghost who's not getting what they need.

739
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: And this goes to saying harder.

740
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: It is kind of like sexy. It's like a harder

741
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: that's not what after Dark Club Paranormal Adventures thought. Did

742
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: they think it was a but.

743
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay? Which goes with what I said, Maybe it's.

744
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: A Lydia butthole? Collins Fan ghosts, got it? Is it

745
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: b what home?

746
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Okay?

747
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: See I want more?

748
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: Two of those go with what I said?

749
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: Or is it d.

750
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: Go off?

751
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Girl?

752
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna say, if it's a ghost, it's

753
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 2: probably saying go home. But I do want to say

754
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: that two of those were perfectly in line with what

755
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 2: I said.

756
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: They actually believe it's a butthole.

757
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: The ghost said butthole.

758
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, now that we know that, let's listen.

759
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with go home. They believe this is

760
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: this something naked ear could hear or is thisthing you

761
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: need like a ghost of ice to hear your ear.

762
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Don't have to be naked, you could just hear like

763
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: any This was captured. It was a recording that they

764
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: listened back to got it and the man filming this

765
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: is like you guys, the ghost said. Butthole, he says

766
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: in the video, He's like, my kids are gonna love

767
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: this one.

768
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: You hear what you want to hear?

769
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: All right, Butthole, here's the next one. This one is

770
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: from Miss Luna Winter and it's in her home. What

771
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: is this ghost saying? Okay, this one's a different sounding one.

772
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: It's it's chatty for sure.

773
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what are options?

774
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: A Bob and money? Those two slay ridiculous. B Obviously,

775
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: it's a game this life. See Bob is my name

776
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: across the gate right over there? Okay, d the ride

777
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: is broken because the gays broke it, all.

778
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Right, played it again so I can decide. Bob is

779
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: my name across the gate over there?

780
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: That is exactly what they thought it said. Wait, let's

781
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: hear it again.

782
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: Well, that just seems the fact that this sounds like

783
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: a service position. And if I died, I'm not still

784
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: doing my job. If I died, I'm not gonna be like, hey,

785
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: buy my name. Please feel free to cross the gate

786
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 2: over there, and we're gonna send you an email about

787
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: our just let us know how you feel about our

788
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: experience today. I'm not continuing the work. If I'm not

789
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: getting paid.

790
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: Anymore, well what about see? I also wonder if sort

791
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: of like in retirement, when you like start a new

792
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: career or like a new job for fun, you get

793
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: a job at the store or whatever, is that like

794
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: do you think that that predictor angel ghost like do

795
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: you think that that's sort of like it was like

796
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: a hot guy that died and then he was like, Okay,

797
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: well what am I gonna do?

798
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Just be dead? No?

799
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: I want to like, what what kind of roles do

800
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: we have? Can I interview for the job as like

801
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: I want to beat the dead grandma ceiling messenger?

802
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be the one who does with

803
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: their Grandma's gonna die. I would not want I would

804
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: not want that job. I wouldn't want to get bad news.

805
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I want to be like, what is he gonna do?

806
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: Promotions coming their way? Promotion is coming your way.

807
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: I love how he just sort of like went back

808
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: into the ceiling and was have fun with that at

809
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: first beat last, Wait a second, I need to hear

810
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: this this EVP again. I think it says Bob is

811
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: my name and the gays love me.

812
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: I think that these ghosts need to go to speech therapy, Like,

813
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: why do all the ghosts mumble?

814
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, how about when you die and you're a ghost.

815
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: Let's see how easy it is. I have a feeling

816
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: you're going to figure out how to talk.

817
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: I'll be like, hi everyone, There'll be no question, but hi,

818
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: everyone is good to see you all. I'll be still

819
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: hosting a podcast from the afterlot.

820
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing, rapid Fire. What do you think of Bigfoot?

821
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: I think Bigfoot was probably honestly, you want to hear

822
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: my honest truth please? Finally, I think Bigfoot is probably

823
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: an unhoused person covered in like stuff to stay warm

824
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: and walking through the woods. I really do.

825
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: But they and they were fine being there, like they

826
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean want to be left alone.

827
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's walk through the woods covered like trying to

828
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: keep themselves warm. If someone took a picture of them

829
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: without their consent and it's like it's it's a Bigfoot.

830
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: Do you know they're trying to make Bigfoot the official

831
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: state of California? Cryptid really, Yeah, there's been a petition

832
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: for that, and what is it?

833
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: Right now?

834
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: We don't have one. There's not such a thing, because

835
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: there's real issues in this world right now that need

836
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: to be addressed. But what do you think about psychics?

837
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: You've never been to one.

838
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: I've been doing psychic. Yeah, but it was like one time, Oh,

839
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: tell me about it. I got nothing out of it,

840
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: really nothing.

841
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Where what was the situation? Was this like a fancy

842
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: one or.

843
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Was it was a psychic that was used to be

844
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: next to the bar hardware in New York City? And

845
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: I just stopped in because she was always there open

846
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: when the when the bars were clearing out, and I

847
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna go to the the to the

848
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: palm reader slash psychic.

849
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: And she just had nothing to give you.

850
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. She was like, there's gonna be a guy. There's

851
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: always a guy, honeyway, that's that's the easy prediction with me.

852
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a guy. Okay, sure right, Nar wrote

853
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: down Mary, you know what I mean.

854
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: I know the guy never came, by the way, why

855
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: didn't he come?

856
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: Now? Some guys, some guys did come, but the guy

857
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: she described did not. What do you think?

858
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Uh oe gee boards, I've.

859
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: Never used one. I'm open to it. Although, if I'm

860
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: gonna be honest, they scare me a little bit, really, weed,

861
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: you boys do scare me a little bit.

862
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ever go ghost hunting?

863
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be cold?

864
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Possibly?

865
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: No, would you ever go with me again? Is it

866
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna be cold?

867
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you're gonna be.

868
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: If we can go somewhere warm, I'm gonna be. I'd

869
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: probably interested. But if if I have to wear a coat,

870
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: if I have to be cold, I would probably not

871
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: want to do it.

872
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: To be honest, Oh really, I will take that any

873
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: day ever, being hot. Have you seen my faux for

874
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: a collection?

875
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: I would rather be over ninety degrees, oh my god,

876
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: than under forty degrees.

877
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Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's so nice is if these ghosts

878
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: really are cold and really do exist, they should be

879
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: able to take care of that for us and cool

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00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: it off. If it's ninety degrees, I prefer it because

881
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't want no swamp ass. But you want to

882
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: be cold, I would always rather be cold and bundled.

883
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: You know I'm a sweater queen. You know I'm a

884
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: faux for queen.

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00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: Well, when it out, it was fall, so I assumed

886
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: that you were just dressing appropriately with the weather.

887
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm like that in the summer.

888
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I love it.

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00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: Never I don't even own any you have some story dresses. Yes,

890
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: when I'm on stage, it's very different.

891
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: I have great legs. A we are you covering them up?

892
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: You know what?

893
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: Because it's your body can do everyone with Yeah.

894
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I can do exactly whatever I want to do with

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00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: my transgender body.

896
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe women.

897
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: I believe you and your stories that you have shared

898
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: with us today. I would say most people won't.

899
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: But I do you think I'm lying? No?

900
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Note at all. No, And I'm telling you this the

901
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: stuff we talk about on this podcast, it gets outragelus.

902
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to call you a lot. Hey, Bob, tell

903
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: people where to find you. Oh my god, tell them

904
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: about your book. You know, we got some history buffs here.

905
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: I wrote a book called Harrod Tubman Live in Concert

906
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: as a historical fiction piece about Herotubman coming back to

907
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: life and writing a hip hop album. It takes place

908
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: right now in current day. You can get a copy

909
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: of it at readth drag Queen dot com. If you

910
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: want to sign copy, you can go to Bob signed

911
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: book dot com. And the audiobook has two original songs

912
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: in it that I'm really proud of.

913
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: Who recorded the songs?

914
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: You?

915
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: Is it your voice?

916
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: It's my voice. My voice is the audiobook. The songs

917
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: are also mean Yes.

918
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so fun. Bob. Congratulations the singers

919
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: and voices.

920
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: There's singers whose voices are on there as well, but

921
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm the one. I'm the main star.

922
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: Congratulations Bob, thank you Oz, thank you Major and your podcast.

923
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: And you're you know, you're always doing stuff.

924
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: So you have the speech impediment that makes everything you

925
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: say sound sarcastic.

926
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: No, I do, Wait, how do you sound now I'm

927
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: trying to sound sarcastic. Oh, yeah, I do.

928
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: There's this thing on kids in the Hall back the

929
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: nute where he goes, sorry, I have this speech epedimid.

930
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: Everything I say sounds sarcastic, so it goes really he

931
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: goes yeah really.

932
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: And I think you have that m Yeah, I've been

933
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: accused of that before.

934
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: So would you like to give me a genuine compliment

935
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: before we end the podcast?

936
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Yes, Bob, I think that you are genuinely one of

937
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: the most.

938
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 2: You're you are fighting demons to give me this compliment.

939
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: I think that you are one of the most. I

940
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: feel like I have to finish this sentence. Dynamic performers

941
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: that I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing in person.

942
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take I'm gonna find the compliment in there.

943
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Is that not a compliment? You were a dynamic performer.

944
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: Dynamic dynamic I mean one week you're really good, at

945
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: one week really bad.

946
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Is that what that means?

947
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: Dynamic like dynamics, like when things are like quite uh disparate. Right,

948
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: the dynamics of this are up and down, left and right.

949
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: But it also could mean like you seeing you dance,

950
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: you act, you're powerful. Dynamic has a lot of difference.

951
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about like you can write a book. Oh,

952
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: you can record music, you can be on multiple reality

953
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: TV shows, and you could do stand up.

954
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to accept all those compliments. Thank you, Thank you, Ross.

955
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: And can I give you a company? Now?

956
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I should think so.

957
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: Ross. I think you are effortlessly funny. You have such

958
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: an infectious personality, and when you're around, despite your best efforts,

959
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: you're very, very charming. Even though you try to act

960
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: like you're not sweet and lovey w you're actually really

961
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: sweet and kind.

962
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh Bob, I'm so sad that I don't see you more.

963
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Well, you literally are you cold? You're going to pass

964
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: my studio on the way home.

965
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: You are literally one of the craziest thing listeners. Bob

966
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: is less than one mile away from us right now,

967
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: and he refused, that's not true. I'd be in the

968
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: same building as me.

969
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: I offered to come. Ros said, I look like shit today,

970
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: but will you stop by my studio the way on

971
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: the way home? Please? Fine?

972
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: I will, all right, bye, but my name is Bob.

973
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Please stay clear the closing doors.

974
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Bob. Go buy her book,

975
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: ah Lover. I will be making Bob come back on

976
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: the show because she is somebody that can make anything entertaining,

977
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we could have a lot of fun

978
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, a famous documented case or something

979
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: like that. All right, my DearS, go to roz Hernandez

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00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: tour dot com to get your tickets to come see

981
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: me live. Tell everyone you know about this podcast. I

982
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

983
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came on.

984
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

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00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

986
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Speaker 1: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email me

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Speaker 1: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez, and

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Speaker 1: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 1: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 1: by the Eerie en Joy. My guest booker is the

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Speaker 1: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine

996
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Speaker 1: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac,

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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