1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. Shorties. There's Chuck, 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: there's Jerry. I'm Josh. We're all feeling kind of short. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: So this is short stuff. I'm feeling a tall are 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: you sure? Why not? I always feel like I'm six three? 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: How tall are you? Oh? I used to be five ten. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm like five nine and a half. Oh wait, 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I just realized this is a short stuff. We have 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: no time for this, shure we do so. By the way, 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: everyone these uh, I know that when we started releasing these, 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: they were in the regular stuff you should know feed 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, and then also in a standalone, uh short 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: ease feed, and I think we just weren't quite sure 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: how to handle that. And now we're just gonna stop 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: that other one and just let them live here in 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: the main feed, right where they've been all along. But 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna send our old little standalone friend out to 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: pasture and shoot it right. All of which means to 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: say is, if you are only sub scribed weirdly to 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: that one thing and not the regular feed, just come 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: on over and join us on the regular feed. We're 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: bringing them home, baby, all right. So here's our dirty secret. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: As we we talked about this one time in a 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: single live event that no one listening saw. That's exactly right, 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: and it was such an interesting little piece of internet 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: tidbit lower. Yeah, it's so perfect for this it just 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: cannot be left alone. So yeah, we we decided we 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: were going to talk about the I smell Little I, 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Big smell. That was their slogan. That was so Yeah, 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: it is like a little lie because it was tied 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: into that whole like Apple push of the late nineties 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: early two thousands, when Apple was riding high and untouchable. Yeah, 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: I guess they didn't. You can't trademark something like that, right, 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I guess not because of a little I, because every 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: everyone or not everyone, But it seems like it's been 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: co opted since then. Sure there's like I Home does 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: all their like accessories, and yeah, clearly companies that are 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: not getting any kind of approval from Apple has that 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: whole eye thing going on. Yeah, so the I smell 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: just very simply was a little I guess you would 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: call it a peripheral, a little device that you would 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: put on your desk, plug into your computer via USB, 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: and then when you're browsing the Internet, depending on what 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: kind of website you would come across, it would squirt 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: out a cent that matched what you're looking at. Maybe 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: not I not squirt, maybe more like waft. Oh. It 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: was probably like a like what do you call those 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: the little perfume atomizer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, not like one 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: of those those trick flowers that like they didn't like 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: squirt some oil onto your face that wouldn't come off 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: or any You're like, oh, why did I visit Nappa 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: autoparts dot com? Right right? Glube. So the problem with 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: it was not what it was or what it did, 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: because if you stop and think about it, that's that's 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: pretty awesome, or how it worked. Right, we'll get into 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: like the nuts and bolt of it. But it was 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: a revolutionary device, amazing. It's some people say that it 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: was simply ahead of its time, and then it was 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: still simply ahead of its time. Other people say that 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: just from the get go it was ill like the 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: definition of ill conceived. Yeah, so shall we go back 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: to the es, Yes, that the dot com bubble was 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: riding high grunges in in decline. Yeah, it was. If 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: it's like kind of mid nineties, what was coming out 64 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: at what came after grunge. Eminem. Oh, I don't even 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: know what that is. You know who Eminem is? I 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: have no idea. Okay, well I was, well it's spelled 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: out you see E M, I N E m oh 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Eminem the the guy, the rapper guy. That's right. Yeah. 69 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I thought that was like M and M was some 70 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: sort of style of music that I just didn't know. 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, you know I'm talking like eminem. 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: All right, So the dot coms are in full effect, 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: and if everyone remembers that time, there was just a 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: lot of money being thrown around all over the place 75 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: where any great new Internet related idea for sure. And 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I think these guys a pair of dudes named Joel 77 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: Bellensen and Dexter Smith who went on to form um 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: What was the name of their company. I think it 79 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: was digit Sense, digit Sense, that's right, Okay. They they 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: formed digit Sense with twenty million dollars god in um 81 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: venture capital. And there's this really great everybody go read 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: this article. It's a Wired article from and it it 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: just does a profile of them in their company, and 84 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: they have like this venture capitalist dude who's like the 85 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: prototype for the Silicon Valley VC guy. It was like 86 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: he's the guy, he's the archetype. It's amazing just to 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: see him appear and be like this, this is the 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: first guy. He's like patient zero, the original hoodie where 89 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: exactly amazing. So these guys UM they got together and 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: they formed this company called Digitsance, and apparently it was 91 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: based on a couple of things they had already they 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: were they were pretty well off UM having written some 93 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: software for genetics databases. Yeah, and this is the nineties, right, 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: so these guys were one of the few, if not 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: the first, to do this, so they were set. But 96 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: that experience had also kind of given them a um 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: an awareness of genetics and um digitization, and they realized, 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: like you can you can code something as as organic 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: as DNA. And they had that little little bit in 100 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: their pipe that they were smoking when they were down 101 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: on Miami Beach one day on vacation together and they 102 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: started smelling perfumes everywhere, as the legend goes, Yes, so 103 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: the story goes, they smelled many different perfume e since 104 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: in the air and said, I've got a great idea. 105 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: I know how we can lose twenty million dollars of 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: someone else's money. Digital scenting, which is why they called 107 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: their their company dig Sense. Uh. And like you said, 108 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: because they already had this sort of genetic h digitizing 109 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: things relating to genetics down pat they they I don't think, 110 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: had too hard of a time transferring that to the 111 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: fact that, uh, we talked about this on our own 112 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: on longer stuff you should know is that specific odorant 113 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: molecules fit together perfectly with specific proteins attached to olfactory receptors. 114 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: In other words, go listen to our episode on smell 115 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: precisely right, So you it wasn't the I guess it 116 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: would have been the smell one. Yeah. It was either 117 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: that or the China's Yes, them probably. So these guys 118 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: knew that going into this, or they went and I 119 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: think did the research, but they're like, oh, we can 120 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: we can work with that. We can take this and 121 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: turn it into a digital representation, a digital model of 122 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: an odorant. And not only can we do it once, 123 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: we can do it thousands of times. So the first 124 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: step these guys took was to create, from what I understand, 125 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: the world's first database of digitized sense. That you could 126 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: go into this database and be like, Okay, here's the 127 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: code for gardenia, and you it's this odorant and that 128 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: odorant and you put it together. And if you can 129 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: basically print out an actual odorant and put them together 130 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: into your brain, you will smell guardenia. Even though this 131 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: is not from Earth or nature. It's totally digitized. And 132 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: that alone, Chuck is like, hats off to these cats 133 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: for doing that. But that was step one towards um 134 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: digit sense. I smell release. That's right, and we're gonna 135 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: take a quick break and come back with the master stroke. 136 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: That was step two right after this. All right, so 137 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: we're back. The brilliant master stroke that I teased really 138 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: was brilliant. And all this was the fact that they 139 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: could do the digitizing of scent alone was great. But 140 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: they sort of learned just like color combinations, uh, in 141 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: order to pump out any smell you wanted to someone 142 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: sitting in their cubicle via the Internet, they didn't have 143 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to come up with millions of different smells. They could 144 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: lean on those one d and twenty eight primary odorans 145 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: and combined him in whatever way they saw fit to 146 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: make specific odorance like billions and billions of different sense 147 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: just from those hundred and twenty eight primary odorance. It 148 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: is really smart. It was, because up to that point, 149 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is a good idea, but how 150 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: can you get billions of different scents into a little 151 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: desktop peripheral You can't. So the ability to break it 152 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: down into just a palette of eight. Now, all of 153 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, the I smell is starting to become an 154 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: actual reality. And from what I remember, they um the 155 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: I smell itself was actually kind of cool looking. If 156 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: you ask me, it looks like an apple um alien 157 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: wind sale or something like that solar sale. But the UM, 158 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: I think it the tray heated up the specific odor 159 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: and then a fan blew across it, and not only 160 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: would it heat up one odorant, it would heat up 161 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, different combinations to different degrees, and the wind 162 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: that or the fan would blow across it, and then 163 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: that's what would waft out of the I smell. That's right. 164 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: So you load a web page with pixels that have 165 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: those scent instructions. You're on a web page for a 166 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: landscaping service, and they decided it's a great idea to 167 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: give you the scent of fresh cut grass as you 168 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: visit their website or if you're at a travel agent site. 169 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Because this is back then when people still use travel agents, 170 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: they would squirt out maybe some coconut and suntan lotion, 171 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: but not squirt waft. And basically the idea was to 172 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: enrich your Internet experience. Uh cost about two bucks. I 173 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: think the cartridges were about fifty but they last months 174 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and months sure, which is you know, that's not a 175 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: terrible price for something, not at all? Uh. And it 176 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: worked great. They tested it. It worked fine. What they 177 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: didn't do was consumer testing, That is, does anyone want 178 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: to smell the Internet? No? That was these guys did 179 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: so much R and D and so much um. They 180 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: were so heads down on the ice all that The 181 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: fatal flaw of the whole thing was they didn't stop 182 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: to ask themselves do people want this? They just presumed, yes, 183 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: this thing is so awesome, it's so revolutionary, and there's 184 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: so much development put into it. Of course, everybody's gonna 185 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: watch the price tags, right, it doesn't slow down your 186 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: web page. The pixels that they created with the sent 187 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: information were so efficient. It took up I think two 188 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: bytes of space, which is like a se of Google's 189 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: tracking pixel. Everything about it it was perfect, but no 190 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: one wanted it. It's it was just as plain as 191 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: day except for me. I've always wanted one of these. Yeah. 192 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: They actually debuted at the two thousand one uh C 193 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: e S Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas, which is where 194 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: all the big products make their splash. Um. Nobody liked it. 195 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Everyone hated it. They never sold a single one, and 196 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in VC funds went down. The scented drain. Yep, 197 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: there was There was at least one prototype, and you 198 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: can see pictures of it on the internet, but as 199 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: far as anyone knows, that was it. They never built one. 200 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: They certainly never sold one. Pretty amazing. And then in 201 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: two thousand six, PC World said this is this can't 202 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: be forgotten, and they released their list of the twenty 203 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: five worse tech products of all time. And believe me, 204 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of worse tech products, but the 205 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: I Smell was included on that list and was honored forever. Amazing. Yep, 206 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: the I Smell. All right, Well that's it. Yeah, if 207 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with us, you can 208 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: go to our website stuff you should Know dot com 209 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: and check out all of our social links. 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