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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to another edition of Fair Territory. We're coming

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Speaker 1: to you live from the General Manager's meetings in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Before we get started, I want to mention Veterans Day

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Speaker 1: and thank all the veterans, of course for their service.

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Speaker 1: I know this is the day we always thank them

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Speaker 1: every day that we should be thanking the veterans their sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: It cannot even be described in words, So Happy Veterans

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Speaker 1: Day to all. Now, as for baseball, it's been quite

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Speaker 1: an interesting week already because of something that happens off

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Speaker 1: the field, and of course I'm talking about the indictments

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Speaker 1: of The Guardian's pitchers, Emmanuel Classe and Luis Ortiz on chargers.

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Speaker 1: They took bribes from sports vetters on to throw specific

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Speaker 1: pitches that would trigger prop bets, basically doing things that

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Speaker 1: were anti integrity, if you want to call it that.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about what this means about the

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Speaker 1: gambling aspect, about all the companies, including ours, including everyone

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Speaker 1: I work for, that is in partnership with gambling companies,

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Speaker 1: Baseball's partnership with gambling companies. We've also learned Monday yesterday

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Speaker 1: bets and to also exclude them from parlays. I've obviously

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Speaker 1: the idea is to kind of prevent this from happening

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Speaker 1: in the future, or at least take a step to

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Speaker 1: help prevent this from happening. What we haven't talked much

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Speaker 1: about is the actual effect on the Guardians themselves as

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Speaker 1: a baseball team. You see there this story from Zach Mazel,

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Speaker 1: all that it came to pass with these two pitchers

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Speaker 1: the Guardians last year, Remember they did not have these

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Speaker 1: after July twenty sixth. They both were placed on nondisciplinary

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Speaker 1: paid leave while the Major League Baseball investigation was going on.

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Speaker 1: What happened, The Guardians did not fall apart without one

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Speaker 1: of their starting pitchers and their premier closer. They went

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Speaker 1: what about this season? What do they do about these guys?

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Speaker 1: I assume, but perhaps I should not assume that they

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Speaker 1: the Guardians, who are a low budget team, and classeas

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Speaker 1: The Guardians certainly can use that money. My understanding is

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Speaker 1: as of right now that money is not available to them,

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Speaker 1: but we should learn more about that in the coming days,

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Speaker 1: so we'll have to see how that all plays out

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Speaker 1: for the Guardians. Clearly they can figure things out either way.

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Speaker 1: But if they got some clarity on what these guys

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Speaker 1: them as they go forward in the off season. Now,

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Speaker 1: to them, my first one of the off season, and

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Speaker 1: I led with the Twins. And the Twins are an

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Speaker 1: the Rockies kind of bereft of talent. They've got talent

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Speaker 1: Byron Buxton, Ryan Lopez, some younger players around on them,

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Speaker 1: If they actually built around these guys, they might be interesting. Now, remember,

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Speaker 1: for one point seven billion. They did not get that price,

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Speaker 1: Can they go further? I don't know that they would

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Speaker 1: He's in decline, he's thirty five. But this is a

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hendricks. Kyle Hendricks announced his retirement yesterday, and he

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Speaker 1: of all, congratulations to Kyle on a tremendous career. He's

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hendricks was not that guy, and yet he had

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hendricks one of the more modest guys you will

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Speaker 1: And you go back to that twenty sixteen World Series, well,

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Speaker 1: To Kyle Hendricks, congratulations on your retirement once more. And

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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, well, time time now for the inside dish,

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Speaker 1: while teams will come at them, and while they will

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Speaker 1: listen their job to listen, their idea is to compete

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Speaker 1: next year and be a really good team around him.

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Speaker 1: They've been a really good team with him, obviously. Now

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Speaker 1: do I agree with that idea. I'm torn because, on

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Speaker 1: one hand, if you trade Schooble, you get something in

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Speaker 1: return that will be greater than the draft pick you

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Speaker 1: might get after making him a qualifying offer next offseason.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, trading a pitcher who likely will

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Speaker 1: be a two time Cy Young winner, and you're kind

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Speaker 1: of ripping the fabric of the team apart at a

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Speaker 1: time when you don't necessarily need to do that, When

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Speaker 1: you have a chance to go back to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: for a third straight year and win with Trek Scuble,

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Speaker 1: that seems to be the Tiger's preference. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: hard they get pushed. You're asking which team would push

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Speaker 1: the hardest. I would expect the Mets would be one,

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Speaker 1: badly need a starting pitcher, and the Dodgers another. But

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Speaker 1: because Google has only one year of club control remaining,

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Speaker 1: who knows what the returns might be the return for

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Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns that the Brewers got two years ago. Was good?

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Speaker 1: Was it awesome? No? So this is a situation that

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Speaker 1: will play out this offseason. But again, as of right now,

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Speaker 1: my expectation is he stays. All right, one more question

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Speaker 1: before we go, Let's see what we got. JJ Delasco again.

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Speaker 1: What do the Pirates need to do to be successful

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Speaker 1: next year? I want to see Skians in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: A lot of us want to see that. And what

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Speaker 1: the Pirates need to do is find some offense. Balance

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Speaker 1: their roster. They are good with pitching. They're really good

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Speaker 1: with starting pitching. They've got depth there. They can trade

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Speaker 1: a starting pitcher, not Skiings, but another starting pitcher, maybe

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Speaker 1: Mitch Keller, maybe someone else to get the bats that

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Speaker 1: they need. They've resisted doing that, and I understand you've

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Speaker 1: built this pitching. You don't want to break it up

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Speaker 1: when it's so fragile. But at the same time, the

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Speaker 1: Pirates obviously need to get more offense. Their general manager

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Speaker 1: Ben Sherrington, Pirates owner Bob Nutting kept him well. Now

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Speaker 1: he's got to do some things to improve this team

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Speaker 1: in a way that like the Tigers with Scooball. You

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Speaker 1: would want to take advantage of having schemes, and you've

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Speaker 1: got them for longer than the Tigers do with Scooball.

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Speaker 1: All right, that is it for today's show. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank everyone for watching, for listening. Foul Territory is

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Speaker 1: coming up. It's Jase Tingler, new Giants coach, Chris Kershcher

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Speaker 1: of the Athletic Ryan Divish from the Seattle Times and

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Speaker 1: you're going to join Scott aj and Eric Kratz. Fair

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Speaker 1: Territory returns Thursday again from the GM Meetings live at

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty Eastern. I'll talk to you then. Thanks everyone,