1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to Better halfy Hour. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 3: Now we are here today. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: With the lovely Happy couple, Meg. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Couple, name a couple of names. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Your names are very similar, Melan Peg, Welcome to the podcast. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: Yay. 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 4: We're so happy to have you, guys, Megan and Melan Peg. 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Mel and Peg, Meg or what is it the other 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: way around? Pal? Not as good? 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: Not as good? 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So before you hopped on, we were talking a 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: little bit about Hi Mom. 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 4: Hi James, she's back speaking around. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Before you guys got on, we were talking a little 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: bit about who we picked. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 3: And Peg, you you were part. I picked you. 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I picked you at the beginning, from the beginning. 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: You have a Joe has a really good read. 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: I feel like on the show, like when you're watching, 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: I feel like And this is the first season in 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: a really long time we didn't hear, like any rumblings 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 4: of spoilers, so we were really kind of on our 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: own every week trying to figure out how this this 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 4: all ended. 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: But you know, Joe, you picked it right out of 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: the limo though, because I've been listening to you guys, 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 5: and you picked it right out of the limod hard. 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually, I actually really want we got to 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: get into the limo. But before we do, how are 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: we feeling? You guys are finally out in the open. 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: How does it feel? 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: Feels great? 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels you know, timely. 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 36 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: Has it been a long journey to get here? I 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: mean we've been where you have been, like the waiting 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: to tell people and the secret keeping. 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 2: You must be so ready. 40 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 6: Well I haven't. I haven't told the soul. Really, my friends. 41 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 5: Are upset with me that I have your sons. 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 6: Well, my son's no, because they were on the show 43 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: at the end. Yes, they but you know they were 44 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 6: a little loose with their lips at the beginning, just 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 6: by talking and I straightened them out. And but I 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 6: haven't told a soul. 47 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: Wow, that's so exciting, Peg, did you tell anyone? 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: Okay, No, you're not. 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: They're not gonna lie. 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: You're lying, You're not going to see you. You can 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: blame it on Mel Sun's It's. 52 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's right, that question. Oh and we got 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 5: the commitment ring, which is absolutely beautiful. 54 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: It is gorgeous. Did you have a hard time picking 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: it out? 56 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 6: Mel? No, they're all beautiful, but you know, that I 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 6: think matched PEG's personality. 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: I love it. It's gorgeous. 59 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: So tell me about the commitment ring because you are 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: wearing it and it obviously looks like an engagement ring. 61 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: So are you gonna if you eventually get engaged, Mel, 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: will you repropose? 63 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: Is this like? 64 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Where are we at? 65 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 6: Well, that's to be seen, so we're not going to 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 6: share anything right now moment, but you know, to be 67 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 6: determined and to be seen. 68 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: So a commitment a commitment ring is essentially we are 69 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: committing to getting engaged, and then an engagement ring. 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: Is committing to get married. 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 6: We're committed to each other right now, That's what it means. 72 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: So it'd almost be equivalent to like a promise ring, 73 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: Like you're showing your commitment to Peg through this ring, 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 4: and you're saying like, we are locked in on each 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: other and we're going to see how this goes. 76 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 6: Correct. 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: If you do get engaged, you expect a new ring. 78 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 5: No, I love this ring? Are you kidding me? 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: This is absolutely it's gorgeous. 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: Do you love it? 81 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: I think Mel's gotta get your new ring. I think 82 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I think you should get in. Maybe you know what, Mel, 83 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you gotta get her like a nice necklace or something. 84 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: You gotta get, you gotta, you gotta again. 85 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 6: Actually, we're traveling down this road together and we'll see 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 6: what happens. 87 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh, Peg, When did you realize that it 88 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: was potentially going to be you at the end what 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: part of the season. 90 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 5: I honestly knew as soon as I got out of 91 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 5: the mud bath. 92 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I knew. 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: I felt it. 94 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 5: I felt it. I felt at a very deep level 95 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: and an intuitive level, I really did. I just right 96 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 5: out of it, and I even told one of the 97 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 5: girls in the house, I said, oh my god, it's 98 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 5: going to be me. And I was kind of actually 99 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 5: taken back by it because I wasn't expecting it, You guys, 100 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: I did not come here expecting it. I came here 101 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: with an open heart, in an open mind, and you know, 102 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 5: I just had to just be myself one hundred percent 103 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 5: be myself. You love me, you hate me. But I 104 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: wasn't expecting it. But as soon as I got out 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 5: of that mud bath, I went back to the mansion 106 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: and just my spirit just really talk to me. And 107 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: actually I wrote it in my journal. I just said, 108 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 5: it's going to be me, and I was just I 109 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 5: was taken back by that. I really was. I was 110 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: taken back because I didn't expect it at all. I 111 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 5: did not expect this at all. 112 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: You guys, what did you actually expect? Because like when 113 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: I went on the show, I went home right away, 114 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: and I kind. 115 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: Of expected that. 116 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: But what did what did you really expect? 117 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: You know, honestly, I expected to have a really good 118 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 5: experience and I expected to get to know him, because 119 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: that's to me, that's how that's how my love evolves. 120 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: A lot of people they jump in with both feet. 121 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 5: My love does not evolve that way. I have to 122 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 5: get to know somebody, I have to spend time with them. 123 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 5: I had to like them before I love them. And 124 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: so that's what I expected, honestly, just to see if 125 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 5: he was datable and see if he was you know, uh, 126 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: if he was a person that would fit into my life. 127 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: Oh cool guy, I mean you guys. Look you guys, 128 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: you guys really do look really great together. Like looking 129 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: at you both, you know you both have this Oh 130 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: I say that it's not a light blue, but it's 131 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: a it's kind of the same color blue. 132 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: And yeah it. 133 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 5: Works, Yeah it does, it does. 134 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 4: When you had that feeling of like I feel in 135 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: my gut that it's going to be me. 136 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: After that point, did doubt ever creep. 137 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: In or worry that, you know, he has these other 138 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: strong connections. You know, I might feel this way for him, 139 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: but what if it doesn't end up being reciprocated. 140 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: There was one time in Tiga, and it was when 141 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: he knocked on my door and I was really sick 142 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 5: for about thirty six hours. I got sick in Antigua 143 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: and I went to sleep for about thirty six hours 144 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: and he came knocking on the door and he said, 145 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: I need to talk to you. And at that moment, 146 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 5: just for a split second, I was like, uh, oh, 147 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: here it is because I know him now and he 148 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 5: has enough respect and enough respect for me and enough 149 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: honesty and enough integrity that he wouldn't have put me 150 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: through that rose ceremony. And I know that about him now, 151 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: So I thought that knock on the door was him 152 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: coming to tell me, hey, look, I have a better 153 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 5: connection with this other person, which I was willing to 154 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: accept because when we're all except this journey, we all 155 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: accept that it's like it might work and it might 156 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: not work. You know, is that connection there or is 157 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 5: that connection not there? So, just for that split second, 158 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: I was like, well, he's got a better connection with 159 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 5: Cindy than he does me. And that's okay. We're grown 160 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: ass adults, and it's not that somebody's better or worse 161 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: or any of that than the other person. It's just 162 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: truly about that connection. Who has that best connection with 163 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: each other? That's all it is. Yeah. 164 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: Well, honestly, watching it when Mel was delivering you the 165 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: news in your room that Cindy was no longer part 166 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: of the journey, when he started, for a second, I. 167 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Was like, is he freaking up with Pey to like 168 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: that was the plan? Was that the plan? You were 169 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: kind of pind of pull one over on her a 170 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: little bit. 171 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. I wanted to make it seem like like, hey, 172 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: I made a decision already, I gotta let you, you know, 173 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 6: let you in on it. So I wanted to make 174 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 6: sure that it came across that way. 175 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: You were messing with her. 176 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 6: I was messing with her. Yeah, for sure, it worked. 177 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: It worked because it like if we as a viewer, 178 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: if we don't know. 179 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 6: Being background into it, everything, I go, you know, I'm 180 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 6: gonna make this act like you know, it's over between us. Right, 181 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 6: of course, I go she left, right, and then she 182 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 6: got the whole face changed, yeah face. 183 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: When he was talking to me, right, I just I 184 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: was very stoic, and I was like, because am I. 185 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: Just feel like you were digesting trying to be like, Okay, 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: where is this going? Let me brace myself, like what's 187 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: he about to say? 188 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: And well, you're dragging it out. You're taking as long 189 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: as possible. 190 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 6: You know, you know, you know how much I like you, 191 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 6: you know how much you know you mean to me, 192 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 6: and how much fun we've had, and you know, I 193 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 6: just want to be transparent with you. And I had 194 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 6: the overnight last night and this like building up to like, but. 195 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 5: I was shocked. 196 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 6: Shocked. 197 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. 198 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: We see we see sometimes on the show the Final 199 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: the Final two, a person will send themselves home, and 200 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: it it always leaves the final person somewhat questioning. Am 201 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: I just? Am I the second choice? Which I don't 202 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: think is the case in this scenario. But do you 203 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: wish peg, do you wish Cindy didn't send herself home? 204 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: No? Because my truth is I think she knew that 205 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 5: there was a better connection between mel and myself. I 206 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 5: think She intuitively knew that and she did not want 207 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: to put herself through that because I do. I saw that, 208 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,479 Speaker 5: I saw that face, and I felt it in her heart, 209 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: and I knew our connection was so strong, and not 210 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: a lot of people saw it in the house. The 211 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 5: women in the house did not see it. Because it developed, 212 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: it grew. I didn't come into the mansion going, oh, 213 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: I want to get married. No, I didn't do that 214 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: because for me, that love it grows. It's about like 215 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: I said, you guys, it's the fireplace, not the fireworks, 216 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: because the fireplace you can continually refuel it. And actually 217 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: Mel feels the same way about it. It's like the 218 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 5: reality is it takes time to fall in love, you guys, 219 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 5: and it takes time to get to know somebody. And 220 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: you know when we both we both have that same 221 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 5: belief system. 222 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 7: Basically that might have been the connection as well, where 223 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 7: you know, it wasn't like, oh, by the way, I'm 224 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 7: in love with you after two weeks, because on the 225 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 7: last week's episode, I say, oh, here is Cindy. 226 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 6: She's in love with me. Oh, and here's Peg She's 227 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 6: not right. The stark difference, you know, it is a 228 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 6: bright line and you know, because Cindy was saying, oh, 229 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 6: I love you, I love you, and Peg was saying, 230 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 6: you know, we're working on this, and that was my 231 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 6: set all along too. I'm not going to fall in 232 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 6: love with somebody, even if I thought I was. I 233 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 6: got to check myself and say, you know, am I 234 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 6: really I s got to give it time to see 235 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 6: if my if my my my brain and my heart 236 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 6: can catch up with my my hormones. Right, like, you 237 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 6: might be in love, but I you got to wait 238 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 6: a little bit here and check it out. 239 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you also don't know if it's it's just 240 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: situational like you are. 241 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: We are in this. 242 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's somewhat of an experiment and you want 243 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that like it's for sure and it's 244 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: just not like, yeah, the situation, but you know. 245 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: What, you guys, love is like, it's different for everybody. 246 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: Everybody has their own idea of love. Everybody has their 247 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: own preconceived idea of what that is and what that 248 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 5: looks like, you know, and everybody has a right to that. 249 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: It just so happens at him and I are on 250 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 5: the exact same page when it comes to building a relationship. 251 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 5: I mean, we're realists. We don't live in fantasy land, 252 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: and we both realize it takes time, it really does, 253 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 5: but we do have that real connection. And I knew it. 254 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: I knew it. I knew it early on. It was 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 5: so weird. I can't even explain it, but I just 256 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: I felt it, and it scared me because I wasn't 257 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 5: expecting it. I was like, holy shit, what is this? 258 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: This is crazy. Especially when we went to oc Fair 259 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: and at the case s in the Sunshine ban, I 260 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 5: just realized. I'm like, oh, I'm in trouble because I 261 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: was not expecting it. I did not go into this 262 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 5: thing with I'm going to be married and I want 263 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: to ring and I'm going to live happily ever after 264 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 5: and this is it. I just came here. It was like, 265 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: you know, let me check this out. Let me see 266 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 5: what kind of a person he is. And I had 267 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: to suspend judgment because we all know that podcast. You know, 268 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 5: it wasn't the greatest podcast out there, but. 269 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 6: If you understand it, if you understood it was, it 270 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 6: was okay. 271 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 5: But you know, but here's the thing. I suspended judgment 272 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: because I knew that I had to get to know 273 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 5: who he was not who what the podcast says, not 274 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 5: what social media says, not what any of it. I 275 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: needed to get to know who he was as a 276 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: human being. 277 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Was there both of you are saying, you know, we're 278 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: realists and it takes time to know if we're in love. 279 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: Was there a point post. 280 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: Show, after the show for both of you that you 281 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: were like, oh, this we made the right decision. This 282 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: actually is love. 283 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: Well, I knew it earlier on right, That's why when 284 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 6: it came down to it, that was Peg. It wasn't A. 285 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 6: I had a crush on her from the first time 286 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 6: I saw her, right, And it wasn't I didn't really 287 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 6: see her in the bombsuit. Is when they it's like 288 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 6: a little diversion because they were trying to make the 289 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 6: bomb go off, and that you know, they they separated 290 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: her and they got her changed, and I saw her. 291 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 6: I didn't realize it was the same person that was 292 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 6: in a bomb suit. And from that point on I 293 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 6: had a crush on her. So yeah, you know, right 294 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 6: right then I knew. 295 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 5: How about for you, Peg, I think the first time 296 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 5: that I really knew is when we right out of 297 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 5: the lima, when we sat down for a couple of 298 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: minutes that first night at the mansion. I just felt 299 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 5: it when we sat down and we looked at each 300 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: other's eyes. It was just that connection right then and there, 301 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: and it just took me back. But I knew that 302 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: I needed to get to know him. I need to, like, Okay, 303 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 5: great the connections there. I feel it. I know he 304 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: feels it because it was just it' psych electric, it 305 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 5: really was. And now now just to build on that 306 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 5: foundation getting to know who he was and for him 307 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: to get to know who I am. Do we fit 308 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 5: in each other's lives because there's you know, uh, the 309 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 5: word love is great, but you know it takes moretal 310 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 5: It takes more than love to have a successful, sustainable relationship, 311 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: and especially in our sixties, we both know that we've 312 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: been through divorce, we've been through you know, the ups 313 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 5: and downs of life, and realistically, we know that it's 314 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: great to be in love, you guys, but you've got 315 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: to have that firm foundation. 316 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 6: Everybody wants the word love attached to everything they do, 317 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 6: especially on the show, but you can have a great 318 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: relationship without saying it. It's actually how you how you 319 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 6: act towards each other, right, And I knew that the 320 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 6: way she was treating me on the show. I go, 321 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 6: I know she likes me a lot, you know, without 322 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 6: saying like, oh, by the way, I love you, I 323 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 6: love you, I love you. Right. It starts with it 324 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: like because you can let you can love somebody and 325 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 6: not like him. You can have your right your crazy uncle. 326 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 6: You go, I love the guy, but I really don't 327 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 6: like the guy. Right, I love him, but I don't 328 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: want to be around him. Yeah. 329 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well hopefully that doesn't happen with you in peg. 330 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm an example of like and love. 331 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree. 332 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 6: To show that. 333 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: I go. 334 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: It's not a word I used lightly. I don't have 335 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: a lot of different meanings and connotations and expectations. So 336 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 6: it's not something that I just started saying, like, oh, 337 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 6: I've known you for two weeks and like I love you. 338 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 6: It's like, come on, it's unrealistic in my world, it 339 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 6: is anyway. 340 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Right, right, But when you accepted the lead as the bachelor, 341 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: knowing the show a little bit, were you worried that. 342 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: You may fall into that trap? 343 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 6: No, because I followed the show a lot earlier on 344 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 6: like from on two thousand and two or three, I 345 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 6: followed maybe for five six years, and then I had 346 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 6: my kids and then I just fell off and then 347 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 6: I actually didn't pick it up again at all. I 348 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 6: just you know, bits and pieces because you'd see it. 349 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 6: But I didn't know any of the characters, any of 350 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 6: the leads, any of the best arras, none of that. 351 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: And I only saw The Golden Bachelor when the girls 352 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: got out of the limo with Gary, the only part 353 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 6: I ever saw in that one. So I didn't know 354 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 6: about the show. Really I did, and that's you know, 355 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: I learned about it after I was really casted for it. 356 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: You know, I got more in depth. I started looking 357 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 6: at the clips and things, things of that sort to 358 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: get more familiar with it. So no, no, okay, hey. 359 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: How familiar were you with the show before you went on? 360 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: I love Tristan's season. I think the only season I've 361 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: ever watched was Tristan's and Ryan and I loved that season. 362 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 5: And it's so funny because we all thought she was 363 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,359 Speaker 5: going to choose the other person, and she chose the firefighter. 364 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: So shout out. 365 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: To Tristan and Ryan Man. You know, it's the same thing. 366 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: You know, here's the thing. It's like we both were 367 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: looking for that connection. Now what we do with that 368 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: connection moving forward is up to us how we want 369 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 5: to you know, how we want to go about it, 370 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: what we want to call it. But we were both 371 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 5: looking for that connection, and then what we decided moving 372 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: forward to do with it, it's what we're going to 373 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 5: decide together. You know. It's really cool, you guys, meeting 374 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 5: in your sixties is really cool because you get to 375 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 5: do what you want to do when you want to 376 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 5: do it, and you get to write your own story. 377 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: We get to write our own love story, and that's fun. 378 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 5: It's not going to be like anybody else's love story. 379 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: It's going to be our love story and we get 380 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 5: to write it. Yeah, along, it can be a lot 381 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: of fun. 382 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: It is, Okay, So let's let's take it back to 383 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: the final episode. 384 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: PEG. What was it like to finally meet Mel's family. 385 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh, I like, adore his boys. They are hilarious, 386 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 5: they're they're great. I adore his boys are They're handsome, 387 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: and they're smart, and they're charismatic, and I just it 388 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: was really fun to meet them because I was really 389 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: I'm really comfortable with the guys, you know, working in 390 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 5: the fire department, you guys for twenty five years. With 391 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 5: all the guys, it's just like, yes, you know, I'm 392 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: with my people, you know, yeah, you know, little smart asses, 393 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 5: and I just I love them. They're so cool. And 394 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 5: then Diane, of course, his best one of his very 395 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: good friends. I just loved her to death, you know. 396 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 5: So it was great. 397 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: We saw you did the word association game with his boys. 398 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: Tell us how that went. 399 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 5: It was good because you know what I knew, you guys, 400 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: I knew by doing that little word association game with them, 401 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 5: I was going to learn more about him because they 402 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 5: have to think on their feet, you know, and then 403 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: write whatever came to their mind. Right away. Was telling 404 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: me a little bit more about how they view their father, 405 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 5: you know, what's their perception of their dad. And I 406 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 5: got a lot of good information out of them. Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky. 407 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fine. 408 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone do something of that sort out 409 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: a family visit or a hometown. 410 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 6: I didn't see it, so my boys told me about it, 411 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 6: but they couldn't articulate exactly what it was, so I'm 412 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 6: curious to see it as well. 413 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: They were great. My brother and I would have been 414 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: we would have went after our dad. 415 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: It just came to me, you know, and then you know, 416 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: it's just it was really good because I knew I 417 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: needed to get some information out of them, but you know, 418 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: they're there eighteen and twenty years old, so I just like, Okay, 419 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 5: how can we make this fun and how can I 420 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: get the information I need out of them without knowing 421 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 5: that that's what I'm doing. 422 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: What did you learn from the game? 423 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 5: Oh my god, that he's a great guy, Because how 424 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 5: I learned it's their relationship with their dad, and that's 425 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 5: what I needed to see. How is your relationship with 426 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: your dad? And they gave it, gave me the answers 427 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 5: that I was looking for. You know, they love their dad, 428 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 5: They respect their dad, they look up to their dad, 429 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: and he's been a great father to the boys. I mean, 430 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 5: just a really good father. No, you really have you know, 431 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: I mean, and. 432 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: You can see that just in that interaction, the way 433 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: they were speaking about bal through the game event and the. 434 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: Words they were using to describe him. It was a 435 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: really sweet moment. 436 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: Nol. 437 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: What was it like seeing Peg with your family? 438 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 6: Great? Because I know how Peg is and she's cool 439 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 6: with kids, right and she's the only person on the 440 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 6: show that asked me about my boys, like really, only one, Like, hey, 441 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 6: that's actually she said that. You know, that's another reason why, 442 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 6: just more validation of how much that you know, I 443 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 6: was making the right decision, but she was asking me, 444 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 6: how are you? How are your boys? You know, what 445 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 6: are their names? Or how old are they? What do 446 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 6: they do? You know, I want to meet him, I 447 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 6: you know, I want to do stuff with them. So 448 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 6: and that was it was honest, because you know what, 449 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 6: she kept on asking me more and more questions about it, 450 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 6: so I knew that when she met them and vice versa, 451 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 6: they're going to have a good time. And she still 452 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 6: asked me about even this morning. Hey, how you boys doing. 453 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 6: What are they doing? You know, how school? How's the girlfriends? 454 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: You know, that kind of stuff. So that meant a 455 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: lot to me, especially not so much in my decision, 456 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 6: but it just validated my decision even more. 457 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Peg. 458 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: This is a little off topic of the Hometown Day, 459 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: but I'm just so interested in this because you mentioned, 460 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: you know, you worked in the fire department, you worked 461 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: on the bonds, while you worked in a very male 462 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: dominated fee field for most of your life. What was 463 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: it like kind of being one of the few women 464 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: in your career for so long and then going into 465 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: a house with all women kind of like the complete 466 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: opposite experience. 467 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 5: It was hard. Yeah, I vet so hard, you guys. 468 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 5: And I love these women. They're smart, they're intelligent, they're beautiful, 469 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: they're articulate. There I really I really love them. But 470 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: it was hard for me. It was really really hard because, 471 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: uh just I mean, can you guys imagine and you 472 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 5: guys saw in hometown's twenty five guys or to thirty 473 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 5: guys at a firehouse for twenty five years working with them, 474 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: and then I'm thrust it into a house of all 475 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: these women, just the opposite. You know, women can be catty, 476 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: women can be jealous, women can be you know, they 477 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: could be a lot of different things. And I wasn't 478 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: used to that. I'm not and I'm very protective. And 479 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: when you know, I really love somebody or I let's 480 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 5: somebody into my life, I become very very protective. And 481 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 5: I became very protective of the women in the house 482 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: and they don't even know it. I was advocating for 483 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 5: them as a whole, and they didn't even know it. 484 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 5: And that's okay. But I became very I was like 485 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: very protective over them because you know, I love them 486 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: all dearly. You know, we're all there, and so it 487 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 5: was different. It was really really different, and I had 488 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 5: I learned a lot. I really did. I learned a lot. 489 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: So, yeah, that must be wild, Like for however many 490 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: years you're adapting to this world and then thrown into 491 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: the complete opposite of what you're used to and having 492 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: to adapt to that. 493 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 5: It was crazy for me. It was really it was 494 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 5: a difficult situation. It really was, because I'm like, all right, 495 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: I don't even know how to I honestly, I don't. 496 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: I didn't even know how to navigate through it, you know. 497 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 5: And I got a couple of little, you know, tips 498 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 5: with some of the girls, and it's just because I 499 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 5: don't have a lot of experience, you know, dealing with that, 500 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 5: you know. Cindy at one time told me I needed 501 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 5: to have more feathers, and I looked at her and 502 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, what does that mean. I don't even know 503 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: what that means. Cindy, Please help me here, because I'm 504 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: very direct and I'm very honest, and people either, you know, 505 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: they'll celebrate that or they'll stay away from that. You know, Terry, 506 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 5: I we connected right away, and she's more like me. 507 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: We have that kind of like tough exterior and we 508 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 5: say what we mean, and we mean what we say, 509 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 5: you know, and some people like it and some people don't. 510 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: So what does that mean though? 511 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: The feathers? I don't know. 512 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: I don't know either. Softer soff okay, I see, I see. 513 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: And you know what into into her? You know into 514 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 5: her statement? She raised girls right, Yes, she's Cindy's very soft. 515 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: She really is. I'm a pickly little porn or not porn, 516 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 5: but right. And I raised my daughter that way, as 517 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: you guys could tell at hometowns. We're very direct, we're 518 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: very honest. You know, it was my daughter and myself. 519 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 5: I raised her by myself after my divorce. You know, 520 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 5: he stepped out on the marriage. You know, he found 521 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 5: somebody else and it was just her and I and 522 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 5: we I became very protective over her. So it was 523 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 5: her and I just together, you know, navigating through life. 524 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: And you guys know life's difficult. Life is not easy, man. 525 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: So I always had to have my armor up, not 526 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: only to protect myself, but to protect her as well. 527 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's also very protective of you. That conversation that 528 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: she did have with you, mel what what was your 529 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: take on it? 530 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 6: But you know, talking to my friend an attorney, because 531 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 6: now you've been an attorney more longer than you've been 532 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 6: a football player. Right, So I've done a million depositions. 533 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 6: I've been deposed, I've asked questions, I've been you know, 534 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 6: I've had had clients, so I'm used to the adversarial role. Right. 535 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 6: The main thing you gotta do is listen and answer 536 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 6: the question. Posed, don't add anything, right, So if they're 537 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: coming on to you tough, okay, I'm okay with it. 538 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: But you just answer the question this post, you don't 539 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 6: add anything else. So it might have been looked difficult. 540 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 6: But it really wasn't that difficult because I've been in 541 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 6: those situations all the time. But you know, she was 542 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 6: direct and I appreciated it. She was protective of her mom, 543 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 6: and she wanted no questions I haven't answered, and somebody's 544 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 6: you know, I was just being truthful with her. I go, I, 545 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 6: you know, I'm not in love with your mother. Right, 546 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 6: We're like a month into it, So, I mean it 547 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 6: might have looked tough, and coming off tough. But those 548 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 6: are the honest answers. And all I could do be 549 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 6: is honest with everybody on the show and not mislead 550 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 6: them or you know, give them head fakes, misdirectum and 551 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 6: give them false hopes. I just never did that, So 552 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: I was honest with myself and honest with them. 553 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 554 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 4: I liked that conversation because I thought it really showcased 555 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: the love and protectiveness that your daughter feels for you, Peg, 556 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: and I respected that she wasn't afraid to make the 557 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 4: most of the time she had with Melan, ask direct 558 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: questions and continue asking kind of every question she felt 559 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: she needed to get her answers. What did you learn 560 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: about Peg or PEG's daughter during that conversation, mal Well. 561 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 6: Peg Y told me that you know, she was direct 562 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 6: and you know, full of life, just like her mom. Right, 563 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 6: So I was thinking I was talking to her mom. 564 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: Like like they said, with the word association game, you 565 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: get a lot out of the kids of the mom. 566 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 6: So I'm looking, I go this nothing was rehearsed, right, 567 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 6: We didn't have We didn't have any time to go 568 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 6: in there and go by the way you're going to 569 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: meet him, And this is what he's like, and here's 570 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 6: the questions. He was like, take him, sit him down, 571 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 6: take him, sit him down. Talk. So it was it 572 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 6: was basically all extemporaneous, all you know, ad lib questions. 573 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 6: So whatever you came to your mind, you asked. So 574 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 6: my thing was to be direct and be honest, and 575 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 6: so in the exactly way the way her mom was 576 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 6: honest and direct. That's what I got from it. I go, 577 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 6: they're they're the same, like they're twins, right, and we. 578 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: Go ahead, No, do one thing about Dakota that I 579 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 5: and I admire this about my daughter. She's fearless and 580 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 5: I'm proud to be that mom that raised her that 581 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: way because she nobody intimidates her, nobody on this planet. 582 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: She just you know, and she's fearless and she's uh. 583 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 5: I know one thing as a mom, because as you know, 584 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: as mothers and fathers, we just want to know that 585 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 5: our children are always going to be okay, especially when 586 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 5: we leave this planet. And I know one thing about her, 587 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 5: she's always going to be. 588 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 6: And I like the direct questions, but answer them honestly. 589 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 6: So when you when you walk away and you look 590 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 6: at it, go because that guy's honest, be guys, you 591 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 6: know you don't live with your mom. No, no, I'm not. 592 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 6: I'm not there yet, right, that's an honest answer, because 593 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 6: I wasn't. You know, some people goes, well, yeah I am. Yeah, 594 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 6: It's like, no, I wasn't. I wasn't going to, you know, 595 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 6: bullshit her, right. I was gonna tell her that the 596 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 6: truth and how I felt, and she and she deserved 597 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 6: that answer, and I gave it to her. And so 598 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 6: I yea, it's like her mom, just straightforward and direct. 599 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So I think this is a perfect place the 600 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: end the first part. Make sure you guys tune in 601 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: for Part two with Peg and Mel. 602 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: We will have new and exclusive interviews every single week. 603 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: We are so excited to share part two of our interview. 604 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: With you guys. 605 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. Bye