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Speaker 1: Welcome to Tuesday's edition a Big Blue Kickoff live here

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot com. He's pauled a teena. I'm Lance Metal.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you for the next sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: to zero one five one three, hashtag Giants Chat on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and Big Blue Kickoff Live, as always, is presented

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Speaker 1: by Corps Light. So it is official. Earlier today, the

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Speaker 1: Giants announced that they have added veteran offensive lineman Mike

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Speaker 1: Remers to the roster. He is now becoming acclimated with

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Speaker 1: his new teammates. He's gonna start working out with the

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Speaker 1: new team as well, and we'll get into the nuts

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Speaker 1: and bolts regarding the mic Remers signing, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: to your phone calls at two zero one four five

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Speaker 1: one three. So, Paul, you and I spoke about Remers

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Speaker 1: yesterday in great detail. At that point it was unofficial.

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Speaker 1: Now we can act as if he is a member

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Speaker 1: of the roster. We'd all speculate and he indeed, and

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Speaker 1: this is somebody that is going to compete at the

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Speaker 1: right tackle spot in all likelihood with Chad Wheeler as

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Speaker 1: well as Georgia sapho Aja, their seventh round pick out

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky. And it's also a player that adds some

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Speaker 1: additional versatility to the offensive line, and the reason being

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Speaker 1: he's played every single position with the exception of center.

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Speaker 1: He's been in life guard, he's been at right guard,

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Speaker 1: and he's been at both tackle spots. Now, not that

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Speaker 1: you ever wish an injury to appear, but this is football.

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Speaker 1: It happens, and if need be, knowing that he could

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Speaker 1: be slid into another spot, I think is a benefit

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Speaker 1: to this Giant's offensive line overall, without question lance and

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to remember as people look at

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Speaker 1: don't look at exactly what his stats were coming off

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Speaker 1: of last season because he was a guard for the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: He was out of position. His best position is right tackle. Now,

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Speaker 1: last year, out of necessity, he played right guard and

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Speaker 1: admittedly did not have his best season. So what I

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Speaker 1: decided to do, and we'll get into this and just

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't want to break it down

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Speaker 1: right away because it's a little bit of minutia, but

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Speaker 1: I went back to be fair and I looked at

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Speaker 1: all of of Mike Gremers snaps as a right tackle

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Speaker 1: as opposed to when he played right guard, left tackle

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Speaker 1: And let me just say, from a generic perspective, this

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Speaker 1: guy is a steady quality right tackle in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. He is a scrapper. We're talking about a

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Speaker 1: Richie Sorber kind of guy, but at right tackle. Richie,

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Speaker 1: of course was a left guard when he played for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. It won't always be pretty, it won't always

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Speaker 1: be smooth, but he works. He's a guy who will

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Speaker 1: scrap and fight much like That's why I use Richie

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Speaker 1: as a great example, because it's all about being effective,

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Speaker 1: getting the job done, keeping the guy off of your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so he can't get to the ball carrier on a

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Speaker 1: running play. That's what Ramors does. Six ft five three

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Speaker 1: So he's not a bulldozer like Karie mackenzie. Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: not what he is is a guy who just uses

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Speaker 1: you know what, isn't it anywhere? Any wonder why Dave

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Speaker 1: Getleman had him on the Panthers because that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. Dave Gettlman wants those grinders. He likes that. No.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very fair point. And it's also

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Speaker 1: a player that was undrafted out of Oregon State in

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Speaker 1: rest is history. He became a key starter for that

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Speaker 1: And then he spent a season with Pat Shermer in

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Speaker 1: I brought it up, Paul. I think if anything, it

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Speaker 1: He wasn't considered a top prospect coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, Broncos, Bucks, Chargers, first int, with

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Speaker 1: that's what Brad Benson was. He he was over there.

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Speaker 1: Now here's another thing to take into consideration when you

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Speaker 1: at least from a notebook standpoint, classroom standpoint, the Giants

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Speaker 1: another side note in terms of perhaps what his signing

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Speaker 1: some computations, Paul so why don't you throw out some

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Speaker 1: The last year that he was a full time right

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Speaker 1: tackle was two thousand seventeen. Okay, he played ten games

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Speaker 1: Those three sacks came in the month of September. The

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Speaker 1: a sidetracked by the Saints. Well, they wound up beating

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Speaker 1: Three sacks and ten games, seven consecutive games without one.

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Speaker 1: just in case you're just joining us. The Giants have

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Speaker 1: made it official. They have added veteran offensive lineman Mike Remers,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's edition, we check in first with Dan in Piscataway. Dan,

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Speaker 1: welcome aboard. What do you have for us? How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? How do alright? Very wellson? And I already

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Speaker 1: feel better about the reverend sign and just listening to you.

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Speaker 1: But where I was going is um you know, looking

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Speaker 1: at members Pro Football Focus grades, he's not much better

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're just going to hand him the job? No,

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Speaker 1: because remember Wheeler was an undrafted player as well out

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Speaker 1: bring in more competition, perhaps it can bring out the

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Speaker 1: Memers is just gonna be handed to starting job. He's

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Speaker 1: going to compete, and they're also going to explore what

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Speaker 1: Georgia Sopholaja, their seventh round pick out of Kentucky, brings

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Speaker 1: what do you think the next signing will be? If

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Speaker 1: any so maybe camp, maybe injuries. Yeah, I would agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I think if there's going to be another signing,

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Speaker 1: probably would happen right before training camp because I think

431
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Speaker 1: at this point and the Giants are looking to see

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Speaker 1: what develops in O t a s, give some of

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Speaker 1: the young guys additional reps, and sometimes free agents also

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Speaker 1: who were well established. Keep in mind, they don't really

435
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Speaker 1: want to be here during O t a s. They

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Speaker 1: wait till the beginning of camp. We've seen that very

437
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Speaker 1: often throughout the league. So I mean, I think that

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Speaker 1: maybe the timeline. Obviously, if an injury occurs, I think

439
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: that changes the game as far as you know, the

440
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Speaker 1: best offseason addition. Now I'm assuming you're talking about just

441
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Speaker 1: the new additions ross right, You're not talking about anybody

442
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Speaker 1: that was resigned, Because there's one guy that I think

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Speaker 1: the Giants resigned that I think is extremely valuable and

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Speaker 1: the guy that I'm gonna throw at us. I love

445
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Speaker 1: the Russell Shepherd resigning. I I think Shepherd through fell

446
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Speaker 1: through the radar last season. He's a coverage guy on

447
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Speaker 1: special teams, extremely valuable, and I thought he did a

448
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 1: really nice job filling in when they had injuries at

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver spot. So I would not dismiss that

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Speaker 1: in terms of of the guys that returned. In terms

451
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Speaker 1: of the new faces, I'd probably go with Golden Tate.

452
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Speaker 1: Golden Tate's a wide receiver that's had over ninety receptions

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Speaker 1: in each of his last few seasons when he's been

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Speaker 1: a member of one team. Because last year he's split

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Speaker 1: between the Lions and the Eagles, I think they're gonn

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Speaker 1: move him around. I think he's a great veteran wide

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Speaker 1: out for Eli Manning to rely on. So I'd probably

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Speaker 1: label Golden Tate because remember, Kevin Zeitler was not a

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Speaker 1: free agent signing, so I don't throw him into that group.

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Speaker 1: He would be my next guy on the list if

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Speaker 1: you want to expand it to trades, slash other transactions,

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Speaker 1: but free agent, pure free agent signing, Golden Tape would

463
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Speaker 1: be the top of my list. Do you have anybody

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Speaker 1: else Paull that I don't from the top of list. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that I think is the best way to describe

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Speaker 1: the situation. Well, let's let's start out to you, Ross,

467
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Speaker 1: who dumps out to you? I mean, you pose the question,

468
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Speaker 1: does what about your opinion? I agree? I definitely agree

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Speaker 1: with Golden Tate. UM not you know, to UH to

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Speaker 1: step in and help the younger receivers UM like Russell

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Speaker 1: Shepherd and Sterling Shepherd. UM. I'm glad that we signed

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Speaker 1: Shepherd to a longer deal. He was the player. He's

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Speaker 1: a fan favorite, I think, UM, and he's definitely a

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Speaker 1: guy you can step it up now that O'Dell has gone. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think having O'Dell when they first traded Adele was

476
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Speaker 1: a little nervous, but I think in the law one

477
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Speaker 1: will be a lot better better off UM moving forward,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a whole of the team. So absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair assessment of the situation. Ross

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Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. I think the way to look

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Speaker 1: at it is the Giants now are going to have

482
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver by committee. On what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if one guy in particular is not

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Speaker 1: capable of going off. But it could be one of

485
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Speaker 1: those receiving situations where Sterling Shepherd goes off one game,

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Speaker 1: Golden Tate goes off another game, Evan Ingram leads the

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Speaker 1: crew the next game. Maybe one of the complimentary wide

488
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Speaker 1: receivers who they have on the roster of Cody Latimer,

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Speaker 1: Benny Fowler, Corey Coleman, they may have their game. I

490
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of those seasons as opposed

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Speaker 1: to consistently one guy in particular Paul Exploding, because when

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Speaker 1: you had Oldell Beckham on the team, were there's some

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Speaker 1: quiet games for him, absolutely, but for the most part,

494
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Speaker 1: Odell more often than not, was the guy that led

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Speaker 1: the team in receptions and receiving yards this season. I

496
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Speaker 1: think it's a little bit more of a guessing game him,

497
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Speaker 1: which you know what, I don't think it's a bad

498
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: thing because it's gonna keep defenses on their toes. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to put the pressure on Golden Tate, Do

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Speaker 1: you want to put it on Sterling? Do you put

501
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Speaker 1: your attention with Evan Ingram. It gives defenses a little

502
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Speaker 1: bit more to think about as opposed to you're going

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Speaker 1: up against giants. You think Odell immediately, and then you're

504
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: saying to yourself, make everybody else beat us. Well, I

505
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: thought you would respond, there's not much, because it's it's

506
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Speaker 1: pretty self evident. I mean, you don't have the ninety

507
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Speaker 1: or a hundred catch guy anymore. Although Golden Tate has

508
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Speaker 1: caught ninety passes and a thousand yards worth of receiving

509
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Speaker 1: Europe three different times. It's not like he can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Although that is a few years ago, and I don't

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Speaker 1: expect him to do that now. I mean, I was

512
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Speaker 1: just looking up the last Giant Super Bowl season in

513
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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, and Cruise caught eighty two balls. Nick's

514
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Speaker 1: caught seventy six. But then you had three other Giants

515
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Speaker 1: in the thirties, Manningham Ballard Bradshaw coming out of the

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Speaker 1: back field. And you know that Sa Kwan is gonna

517
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Speaker 1: catch at least ninety balls this year, you know, so

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of receptions that are gonna go to him.

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00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: I look, I wrote on the last cover of three

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Speaker 1: you guys put out on Giants dot Com that I

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Speaker 1: think Kwan is gonna lead the team of receiver with you.

522
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Speaker 1: We were on the same line on that you know,

523
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Speaker 1: So there's no way Golden Tad's gonna have the most receptions.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Sae Kwan Barckley. It's Blockley's team, so

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Speaker 1: you know he's good for ninety one last year, Why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be good for ninety again this year? But

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Speaker 1: I could see Golden finishing second and Sterling actually being third.

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Speaker 1: If you were to a possibly, I could see that.

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Speaker 1: Possibly wouldn't shock me If Evan ingraman second. Certainly somebody

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Speaker 1: on the Giants besides Barkley is going to catch a

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Speaker 1: minimum sixty balls this year. Barkley is gonna be over ninety,

532
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Speaker 1: someone's going to be in the sixties, someone's gonna be

533
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Speaker 1: in the fifties. And then after that, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a real mixture. That's how I see it. I agree

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Speaker 1: with that breakdown, and I don't think a mixture is

536
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Speaker 1: a bad thing because it's not let the compet titian

537
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: prove who deserves a jersey every weekend. Remember, special team's

538
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: impact is going to decide who that fourth who maybe

539
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Speaker 1: that fifth wide receiver is going to be. So those

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00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: are the things to watch out for. That's why I

541
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Speaker 1: think Russell Shepherd's value gets sometimes overlooked because more of

542
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: it than not. He's gonna get a jersey because they

543
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: know they could throw him out there for special teams.

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Speaker 1: Who else can prove that they can contribute with the

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Speaker 1: coverage teams or maybe as a return guy. Let's head

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Speaker 1: back to the lines. Jeff is in Huntingdon's Cheff. Welcome

547
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: to the program with Gaffs. Thank you, Hi, guys um.

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Speaker 1: Regarding Mike Ramas, you know, the reports prior to him

549
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: signing with the Giants was that if Minnesota wanted him back,

550
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: they were asking for a reduction in his salary. But then,

551
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: on the other hand, and take a look at the

552
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: signing right now, it seems like the Giants didn't did

553
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: not put all their eggs in one basket, because I'm

554
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: not sure what the minimum salary is for veteran of

555
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: his years, but if it is one million, as they say,

556
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: it's it's really uh uh a salary structure that's really

557
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: uh Expecting him to see how he will perform, because

558
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: obviously he's coming back from minor back surgery. When you

559
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: talk about Luke Pedigoo before, I mean I remember Luke

560
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Pedigoo as being a guy who was always out it

561
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: seemed because of his back problems, and I'm hoping that

562
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Speaker 1: history doesn't repeat itself again. But the point being is

563
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: the expectations that we may have on Mike Gramers. I

564
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: think we should temper it a little bit just to

565
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Speaker 1: see what does take place in the competition and how

566
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Speaker 1: he does maintain himself physically through the throughout the season.

567
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he will be there, but the Giants didn't really

568
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: give him what I thought was going to be something

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Speaker 1: more than what they actually did. Just what do you

570
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: have to think about that? Yeah, I think that's a

571
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: very fair take. I mean, that's what Paul and I

572
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: pretty much have been echoing since yesterday's show, and there

573
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Speaker 1: was a lot of speculation. I don't think anybody should

574
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Speaker 1: just assume that Mike Remors is being handed the starting

575
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Speaker 1: job and that's it. I think they want to test

576
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Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler, they want to see the competition. They also

577
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: want to see what George A. Sapho ad Ja could

578
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Speaker 1: bring to the table. So I mean, if you want

579
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Speaker 1: to analyze it from a financial standpoint, that's fine. I

580
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: know a lot of people they always look at the

581
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Speaker 1: contract and they say to themselves depending on the guaranteed money. Well,

582
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: this guy is absolutely going to start, because there's no

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Speaker 1: way that they would throw that type of money and

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Speaker 1: a guy and not have him be the starter. I

585
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: don't think you could look at the Remer situation and

586
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: have that immediate takeaway, which is pretty much what you

587
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: just laid out, Jeff. So, I mean, I think it's

588
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: a fair way that you're looking at it. And I

589
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: don't think anybody should jump to the conclusion that just

590
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Speaker 1: because they're bringing in a proven veteran that he's gonna

591
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: walk away with things. They're gonna see how things developed, though.

592
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to say, hey, he's got

593
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot more experience than the other two guys on

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Speaker 1: the roster right now, and he should be the favorite

595
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: to win the job. But being the favorite is completely

596
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: different than actually winning the job. It is. Yeah, and

597
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: and and to that point, uh, it's still leaves open

598
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: the door or that possibly if there are good right

599
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: tackles available in the draft next next year. That it's

600
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: it keeps the door open for the Giants to look

601
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Speaker 1: at that possibility if things just don't work the way

602
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: they expected to work. Yeah. Well, I mean I don't

603
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: think anybody is operating under the assumption that Mike Remers

604
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: is going to be, you know, a five year solution

605
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: at this position. I think right now they're thinking about

606
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, because if you look at his contract,

607
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: it's not as if they signed the guy to a

608
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Speaker 1: tend year deal. Let him compete, Let's see what happens

609
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: this year, and then of course they can play out

610
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: there other options in future drafts and future free agency periods. Yeah,

611
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Speaker 1: I don't think you should look at it long term

612
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: in terms of designing. This is one of the moves

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Speaker 1: that the Giants have made for two thousand nineteen. Okay, Well,

614
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: like when they drafted the quarterback at number six, that's

615
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: a move for the future. Okay, that guy is not

616
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: supposed to play in two thousand nineteen. This was a

617
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Speaker 1: move to help two thousand nineteens one lost record. That's

618
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Speaker 1: what this was about, understood, and from Mike Remmer this

619
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: point of view. Possibly since I don't know what his

620
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: mind is when you're talking about all his familiarity with

621
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: the coaches, uh from his past experiences, I think that

622
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: that was obviously the biggest thing why he decided to

623
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: go with the Giants. Yeah, I mean I think that

624
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: that's something that clearly jumps off the page, and I

625
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: think there's some substance behind that, Jeff, and appreciate the

626
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 1: phone call. If you have a choice to sign with

627
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: multiple teams, they're all pretty much giving you the chance

628
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: to compete and win a starting job. What's the difference

629
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Speaker 1: make you're gonna be? The difference maker is probably gonna

630
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: be Paul Geography. You know, if you have a family,

631
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: the kids, the wife, the better half, whatever it may be,

632
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: where they're happy to live. And then the second factor

633
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: to me is who do you know? You know, where

634
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: do you feel most comfortable? You know, it wouldn't surprise

635
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: me if one of the factors, and I'm sure it

636
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: was a small one, but I still think it may

637
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: have been a factor. Members comes in here saying, well,

638
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: if I would the right tackle job, which I think

639
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I will, I'm gonna be playing next to Zeitbler. And

640
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Speaker 1: Zeitler is widely regarded around the league as the best

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Speaker 1: pass blocking right guard in football, and he's also, by

642
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Speaker 1: the way, a tough s ob, a scrapper, a blue

643
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Speaker 1: collar guy who will bleed for you and punch you

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Speaker 1: in the nose. I mean, think about that. That means

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Speaker 1: those two guys on the right side are both similar

646
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Speaker 1: kind of players, very nasty, and they they have they

647
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Speaker 1: have they have. You know that that that fighters mentality

648
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Speaker 1: on that side of the line. I mean, you know,

649
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Speaker 1: he's a good fit, is what I'm saying. I think

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00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: those two guys are gonna get along marvelously well, great

651
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: compliments to one another, And I think that that could

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Speaker 1: have been part of the thought process for Mike Remer's

653
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Speaker 1: I just my feeling is, I don't know if you

654
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Speaker 1: can ever really go into a season, especially an offensive

655
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: linemans you know this better than anybody, Paul, and just

656
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Speaker 1: assume that you're absolutely gonna be playing next to the

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Speaker 1: same guy the entire season, because you know the way injuries,

658
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Speaker 1: position changes occur. I just don't know if you get

659
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Speaker 1: every bank on it, he's gonna be next to me

660
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: for all sixteen games. Do you think there are any

661
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen out there who were itching to play next

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Speaker 1: to Eric Flowers. I'm just making a point. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where you're going with that. We know. The point is,

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Speaker 1: I do think it makes a difference. I do think

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Speaker 1: that a player says, look, that's the guy I'm gonna

666
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Speaker 1: be playing next to. I'd like to know about his demeanor,

667
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Speaker 1: his quality of play, his reliability. Because if the guy

668
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Speaker 1: next to me isn't getting the job done and isn't

669
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: the kind of scrapper and hard worker that I want

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Speaker 1: him to be, guess what he's playing next to me.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a problem for me. Of course. Yeah, oh,

672
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Speaker 1: I absolutely think that that Zeittler did have a small

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00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: factor in this decision. Well, and Remors is somebody who's

674
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: moved around probably understands that better than most that the

675
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Speaker 1: guy you play next to perform. You disagree with you

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Speaker 1: hammered point, No, I think I did say that it

677
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Speaker 1: wasn't on the radar. I just said if I were

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Speaker 1: to list the priorities for Remors in terms of where

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00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: it would it be the first two or three. And

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00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. I'll tell you that. Well,

681
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: on a show where we're breaking down just one free

682
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: agent signing, gets fair to certainly bring up seventeen different

683
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: characteristics that may have gone through his mind prior to

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Speaker 1: deciding to join the Giants. Let's reopen up the phone

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Speaker 1: lines here. On Tuesday's edition, A Big Blue kickoff live

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Speaker 1: and let's go to Mike in tentifly. Mike, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. How are you you? Holy, I'm the guy

688
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: you see shopping every once in a while and that

689
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: famous store. That good to talk to you. How's it going? Man?

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: Back to the offensive lines of Darryl Desk, Jack Stroud,

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Speaker 1: Rogie Brown, and ray Rod Teca, Greg Larson, Ray Wide Techa.

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Speaker 1: By the way, for young ripper snappers like Lance over here,

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Speaker 1: Ray Wide Techa was a phenomenal multiple time All Pro center. Yeah, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: good for you. Who who who was there during the

695
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Speaker 1: late fifties, early sixties, and you're right, Greg Larson and

696
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Speaker 1: then and then over the course of the years, the

697
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Speaker 1: Yates have had some very good centers. And it goes

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Speaker 1: back to mel Hind. But think about this, right, think

699
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: about this, Think about barn Oates, right, think about Shawn O'Hara.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've they've had a pretty good crop of

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Speaker 1: centers over the years. But white Hecker was the guy. Well,

702
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: I guess mel Hind started it. But White Teca in

703
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: the modern era was was the first great giant center.

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Speaker 1: And Jim Clark to Jim, Jim Clark was with the

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Speaker 1: Giants for only a couple of years, but he was

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Speaker 1: with them in the ninety one playoff season when they

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Speaker 1: ended the seventeen year drought. And Bob Highland by the

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Speaker 1: way from White Plains, if you remember Bob, Bob was

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00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: a a center guard. He started out as a guard

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Speaker 1: because Lawson was playing center, and then when Lawson retired,

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Speaker 1: I want to say after the seventy three season, Highland

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Speaker 1: moved into the center spot. Good player though, good player, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good player, yep. P question for you. I think on

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Speaker 1: the draft list during the draft day, this kid Adams

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Speaker 1: they signed. What was your scouting report on him? To

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Speaker 1: pull Adams at the Missouri Yeah, peanut, butter, okay man,

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Speaker 1: you take care. Thanks. Adams to me is really a project.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that. You know, he comes

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Speaker 1: immediately with you know, add add water and ready to

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Speaker 1: go and to challenge for a spot of the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. Um to me, he's got

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Speaker 1: some limitations. But but having said that, the limitations are

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Speaker 1: more in the run game than they are in the

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Speaker 1: past game. His past blocking, which is you probably know

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Speaker 1: what Missouri, that's what they do. I mean, they're just

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Speaker 1: winging it, and so he does have some past blocking

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00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: skills coming from that that set up. Now what he's

728
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Speaker 1: gonna have to learn. He's gonna have to learn how

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00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: to put his his his hand in the dirt because

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Speaker 1: he's a stand up pass blocker, and and he's obviously

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Speaker 1: going to have to get more physical and understand the

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Speaker 1: run game better. I think he's a project. I think

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Speaker 1: he potentially could be a practice squad guy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he's going to challenge for six five three

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Speaker 1: seventeen undrafted rookie out of Missouri. The thing is, we

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Speaker 1: focus on the five guys that are in line to start.

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Speaker 1: They got some depth, they got some options, So I

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Speaker 1: mean Adams is gonna be in the mix to compete.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you and I had this conversation yesterday

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Speaker 1: which relates to the last question. You know how many

741
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Speaker 1: offensive I'm gonna keep? You know, we were talking eight,

742
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: you know nine. I think maybe pushing it because, as

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00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: I've emphasized, if your starters can be moved around, then

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 1: you're not going to keep more guys on the depth

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00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: chart because you can always move a guy like Rembers

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Speaker 1: if need be. Not that it should be your first call.

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00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: You can move a guy like Halapio if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: win the starting job, or even if he does, you

749
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Speaker 1: can maybe even move Pully if you wanted to toy

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Speaker 1: with him at guard. So when you have that versatility

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00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: in the starting group, I don't know if you then

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: need to hold onto four backup offensive lineman, which means

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Speaker 1: eight or making this team. So the guy who loses

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00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: the center gig is probably gonna be one of the backups.

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Speaker 1: Right then you talk about one of the interior offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman that has been here before, like uh, a veteran,

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Speaker 1: or one of the young guys, or a Chad Wheeler

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Speaker 1: for example, if he doesn't beat out Remors, you would

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Speaker 1: think Wheeler would be in line to be one of

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Speaker 1: your backups. Okay, so that means to one more spot.

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Speaker 1: So realistically, this is no shot against Paul Adams. It's

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Speaker 1: just from a numbers standpoint, he would have to impress

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Speaker 1: them so much that he's gonna jump in front of

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00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: the Brian Mahalicks of the world who are on the team.

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Speaker 1: Last year, the Georgia Sapho a Jas of the world

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Speaker 1: who was the seventh round pick. Not to say that

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00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: these guys are locks, to make the rosters. Just these

768
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: guys have a little bit more up in terms of

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00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: what they bring with the resume as opposed to him

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00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: who is coming from a little bit of a smaller

771
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: program and was undrafted. And then you got young guys

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Speaker 1: like Evan Brown who you mentioned yesterday, the backup I

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00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: mentioned Nick Gates guy yesterday, who who's a backup guard? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know, does does Chad Slade even have a shot?

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: The veteran who's been around a couple of teams over

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00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: the years. He's a big guy, you know, but but

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00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: he's bounced around now. He's got experience much more than

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00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: any of those other guys we just talked about. You know,

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00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: does he have a shot to make it as one

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00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: of the interior backups? I don't know. Uh. You know,

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00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: here's the good news. They've got some bodies now and

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: they can tell them fight it out. May the best

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00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: guy win. And that's always a good thing. Is when

784
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: competition determines who makes the depth chart, that's good. Okay,

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00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: when you have to put a guy on the depth

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00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: chart because we don't have anybody else, that's bad. More

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Speaker 1: of a reason why they brought in a guy like

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Speaker 1: Mike members at this point to give him an opportunity

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00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: to get acclimated with the team before you get to

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Speaker 1: O T A s and training camp, have a leg up,

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Speaker 1: perhaps on anybody else that they bring in. Two zero one,

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Speaker 1: five one three is the telephone number you're watching and

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Speaker 1: listening to. Tuesday's a Nation a Biglue kickoff Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Coors Light. We've got Charlie in Portland's Maine. Charlie,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Hey, guys, say Paul Charley, you're a happy man. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's not will beat me the last time I checked?

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00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: How happy is he? I look at it this way.

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00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: Rumors is definitely the starting right tackle unless helpwise you

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00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: can't tack it for some reason, the back surgery didn't work. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a competition between Wheeler

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Speaker 1: and what was that guy's named Mahleck because he queen

802
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: tackle last year. I think it's going to between those

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00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: two who ends up being our swing tackle unless they

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00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: bring a veteran in which they probably won't. So to

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Speaker 1: me is like I I see Wheeler not even beyond

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Speaker 1: being on his team if he has not improved this year,

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00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: because if he is the same guy he was last year.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think he will be on the team.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. I would die. I

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Speaker 1: would disagree with you, Charlie, to be honest, because Wheeler

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Speaker 1: was the starter over Maholic last year. So what makes

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00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: you think that they just don't bump down one. How's

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00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: Mahalad gonna beat out Wheeler this year if he couldn't

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00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: beat him out last year? Well, I just think that

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Speaker 1: the reason why Wheeler was the starters because like you

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: just said, we didn't have anybody, there was no real

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00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: competition but Maholk that was his first year. So no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Mahak mahal was with the Eagles prior to that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's not with us, but not with us. It was

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00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: first year with the Giants. Yeah, so he's got to

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Speaker 1: have He's going to have another year under his belt,

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Speaker 1: and maybe this guy is going to improve more and

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00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: have more of an upside than Wheeler. Hat. I think

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Speaker 1: Wheeler is where he's at. You know, this is the

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00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: best you're going to get out of this guy. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if he bulks up or whoever he does.

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Speaker 1: It's just like flowers and heart and you know, they

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Speaker 1: were in the you know, the room, and they were

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Speaker 1: there all year round, and they were going to get

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Speaker 1: so much. I understand this, though, Hold on a second, Charlie,

831
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: understand this. Okay, Chad Wheeler where he's at. Let's assume

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Speaker 1: for a second he does not improve. And I think

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00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: that's really all poor some going to make because he's

834
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: still a young player and he does work his butt off.

835
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Speaker 1: The thing about him that you're gonna like is that

836
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: he does try his rear. Randolph. Remember a scrapper, Okay,

837
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: a scrapper who may not have as much talent as

838
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Speaker 1: the next guy. Because he's a scrapper, he's going to

839
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Speaker 1: have a fighting chance. And I think that this coaching

840
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: staff and this front office likes scrappers. Okay, so do

841
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: not sell him short as being the third tackle. I

842
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: just think you're making a mistake if you do. Charlie

843
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: has never made a mistake though, when it comes to

844
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Speaker 1: projections for the rosters. So I mean, think about who

845
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: we're talking to right now. Anyway, go ahead, Charlie. I'm sorry, Yeah, well,

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00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: I just want to know how was penalty? Uh situation?

847
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: Who's reamers? By the way, Wait, wait, hold on, before

848
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: we gotta work this out, Charlie, Who's who's Mike Reamers.

849
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Speaker 1: I'm not aware of him. Who's Reamers? But is he

850
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: a good Do you think Reamers could play left tackle?

851
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: I haven't had a scouting report him. What do you think?

852
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Or is he maybe a better fit at right guard?

853
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: Your thoughts either one? Okay, just want the clarification go ahead.

854
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt. Back in two thousand seventeen when

855
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: he was when he was a right jackle he got

856
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: called for one full star at three holes in a

857
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: face mask, which that's five penalties total. Yeah, that's that's

858
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: that's I'm not gonna doesn't meet Charlie standards. I'm you know,

859
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if if that doesn't mean your standards, but

860
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna cry about that. That's in

861
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: the first five minutes of the game, so we know

862
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: we don't need to talk about him anymore. And by

863
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: the way, Mike Grammers, Charlie, I hate to disappoint you,

864
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: but Mike Rammers has worned seventy four throughout his career,

865
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: and it would be logical to assume he'll take seventy

866
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: four year as well, just just as an f y,

867
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I you'll improve that number, don't you think so? Don't

868
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: give him more material? What are you doing? Geez? All right, Charlie,

869
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: we appreciate the phone. All always good from hearing Charlie

870
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: in Portland, Maine. All right, let's move along here on

871
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: the program. Scott in New Mexico has huge shoes to

872
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: fill following that phone call, Scott, Welcome the Big Blue

873
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Kickoff Live. What's happening, Hi, guys. I hope I'll be

874
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: able to fill those shoes. I hope so too. I

875
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: had a question for you in regards to the remor signing.

876
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: UM Minnesota released him under what they call a failed

877
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: physical designation, which obviously had to do with his back

878
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: surgery and so forth. Yeah. Uh. When I was looking

879
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: at films with him early on, he impressed me more

880
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: as a past blocker than a run block or Am

881
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: I wrong in that kind of assumption? No, No, not

882
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: at all. He again he is. He is not the biggest, strongest, thickest,

883
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: most ferocious bulldozer. He's not a Karee Mackenzie. I tried

884
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: to explain before I tried to give you guys characteristics

885
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: as to how he plays. There is no question He's

886
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: a guy who's never gonna make it look pretty. It's

887
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna be ugly a lot of times, but he's going

888
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: to keep the guy off your quarterback more often than

889
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: he's not. And the reason being that that's what stands

890
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: out about his game is remember Carolina, they had Michael

891
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: or as their starting left tackle. He got hurt. As

892
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: opposed to just bringing in somebody knew, they moved the

893
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Ramors to left tackle because of what Paul just said.

894
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: They believe he could keep it clean for the quarterback.

895
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: So you know, most guys they even play left tackle,

896
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: they are known as pass protectors, not necessarily roadrunners at

897
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: the run blocking situation. Right, So, if you had to

898
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: quantify the offensive line as it's a symbol now and

899
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Remors will be the starter, but say

900
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: for arguments for this particular scenario, he is, Uh. You know,

901
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: both of you know that you win NFL football games

902
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: on offense when you can run the football. So as

903
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: the line is assembled right now, I know that was

904
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: very good at that But as you look at the

905
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: rest of the people that are designated to do, are

906
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: they more more defined as as protecting eli or do

907
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: they have the ability to go pass blocking as well,

908
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: and where are My main concern is when the Giants

909
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: get down to say the four or three yard line,

910
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: obviously the opposing UH team's three or four yard line,

911
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 1: do they have that ability to obviously open up polls

912
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: no matter who the back is. And I was just

913
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: curious what your opinion was as the line is assembled

914
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: right now? All right, Scott will leave you on that note,

915
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: but we will answer your question and appreciate the phone call. Zeitler,

916
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, look at what Cleveland did last year, and

917
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: remember he was part of the team where Nick Chubb

918
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: had a very productive rookie year. Duke Johnson was more

919
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: of a receiver, not necessarily a runner. But Cleveland I

920
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: thought had a respectable running game. And even if you

921
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: look at some of the guys that were there before

922
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. So I mean, Zeitler to me is a

923
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: guy that I think is going to help in both elements.

924
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: Paul I wouldn't necessarily classify him, you know. I mean,

925
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm not one that subscribes to all of this grading,

926
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: but I look at him as a well rounded offensive lineman.

927
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna help in terms of the running

928
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: game and I also think he's a reliable option to

929
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: help on the right side and improve that side for

930
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. Well, the upgrades between Jaman Brown and Zeisler,

931
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: the upgrade there is in past protection. The upgrade between

932
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: Wheeler and Remers is also in past protection. So you've

933
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: upgraded two spots on the right side of your line

934
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: in past protection. Um run blocking, Zeisler's good. No one's

935
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna say he's not good. He's good. Uh, and Jamal

936
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Brown was good that that could be a wash. Just

937
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: in the run blocking, that could be a wash. But

938
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: but in terms of terms of Wheeler versus Rammers, you

939
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: know what I tell yeah to me, to me, it's

940
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: it's the huge upside in the past protection. That's why

941
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: he that's why he's here now. To the caller's point,

942
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Soldiers a better pass blocker than he is a run blocker.

943
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: Same with Ramers, same with Zeisler, although it's not to

944
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: say he's a bad run blocker, but he's better in

945
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: pass pro. Pully I think is better in pass pro

946
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: although he's he's very athletic and he certainly gets out

947
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: to the second level on the run. And Hernandez is

948
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: a better run blocker. So I guess if he's asking,

949
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: is this a better run blocking or pass blocking offensive line?

950
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: Which I think is the bottom line to it is

951
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: a better pass blocking offensive line. Right now, I would

952
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: not deny that. However, if you're gonna run and you

953
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: gotta pound it, you gotta go to your formuted offense, well,

954
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: then you add your extra beef, you go to a

955
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: jumbo package, or you make sure that Ellison is in

956
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: the game because Ellison's gonna help blocking, or maybe you

957
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: keep a fullback on the roster and Elijah Penny's gonna

958
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: help out blocking there too. So I get the question.

959
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: It's a valid question, but you can deal with that,

960
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: you can work with that, and let's let's not kid ourselves. Okay,

961
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: the Giants understand that their defense is not going to

962
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: be locked down. They're not gonna hold people to seventeen

963
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: points a game this year. Okay, They're not suddenly gonna

964
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: be a top five defense in the league. They're gonna

965
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: win games by also knowing they're going to have to

966
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: outscore some people on occasion, they'll need to put up points. Well.

967
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: To do that, they're gonna have to throw it. And

968
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: guess what your thirty eight year old quarterback now has

969
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: a chance to stand up, find the target and unleash

970
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: a completion. And that's good news. Well, I think the

971
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: other thing that shouldn't be overlooked. You know, we're focusing

972
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, where the improvement is if the

973
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: last caller is also asking about the running game, look

974
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: at what s Kwan Barkley did with some issues on

975
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and look at what he's capable of doing.

976
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: The reason I'm bringing that up, Paul, you give Barkley

977
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: an opening he's more than capable of than finishing the

978
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: rest himself because he'll make people miss. So the goal is,

979
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: are you looking for parting of the red Z? Yes,

980
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: you love that. Of course, You're just looking to make

981
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: sure that Barkley can get to that second level. Because

982
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: once Barkley gets to the second level, I think you

983
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: feel confident if you're the science. You know what, Let

984
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: him take a linebacker one on one, let him take

985
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: a safety one on one. Good luck trying to bring

986
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: him down. But you just don't want to see the

987
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: penetration into the backfield, which is going to hurt any

988
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: running back, regardless of how talent that they are. So

989
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: can they clean those types of things up, meaning you're

990
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: not seeing as much penetration where Barkley's now the minute

991
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: he gets the handoff, all it's gotta immediately make somebody miss.

992
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: If you clean that up, then I think you're helping

993
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: the run game, no matter what type of stride one

994
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: offensive line miss makes to another. That I think is

995
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: an important part of the conversation because of the talent

996
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: that you have out of the backfield, which most teams

997
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that luxure. And then again, there's always

998
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: that philosophy that on occasion, in some weeks and some matchups,

999
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: you'll actually want to use the past to set up

1000
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: the run. And if the Giant can help in that department, sure,

1001
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: And if the Giants can show that they're adequate in

1002
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: their past protection, which we now believe they're going to be, well,

1003
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: now you do that, you loosen up the defense and

1004
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: now guess what, run blocking isn't as difficult anymore because

1005
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: teams got to play back a little bit because they're

1006
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: worried about the past too much. They can't stack the box.

1007
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Choose your one five, one three. That is a telephone

1008
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: number here, Lance Metal Paul the Tito with you on

1009
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: Tuesday's issue, A Big Blue Koff Live. Let's head back

1010
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: to the lines. We got Patrick in California. Patrick, welcome

1011
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: to the program. What's on your mind? Good morning, Lands.

1012
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. You can actually stole my thunder a little

1013
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: bit in the last couple of minutes talking about the

1014
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: offensive line. But that's why I love listening to your

1015
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: still knowledgeable Well, thanks you tuning in. We appreciate that. Yeah,

1016
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: and Paul, I love your knowledge as well. UM and

1017
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: your old school mentality. Um, it's extremely enjoyable listening to it.

1018
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. But having said that, I get the impression

1019
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: that gentleman is an old school guy. UM. And watching

1020
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: just his signings in the last couple of years, and

1021
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: with this recent signing with Fremers, um he's addressing the

1022
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: offensive line, he's addressing the defensive line in secondary. Um.

1023
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: And just I want your comments and and uh what

1024
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: you feel because my feelings are that I just recently

1025
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: read article with Dan Graziano and ESPN and how his

1026
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: feelings are that, uh, the Giant have declined. One of

1027
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: the teams that have declined the most this year in

1028
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: this offseason has been the Giants because of letting go

1029
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: of Collins and O'Dell Beckham Jr. But being a long

1030
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: time a lifetime Giants fan out here in the West

1031
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: Coast and watching the last four Super Bowls they've won,

1032
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: we've had a good template on and a good sample

1033
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: size on what it takes to win super Bowls. And

1034
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: if you if you see it, they've had a stout

1035
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, a stout defense to an elite defense, and

1036
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: a running game and a quarterback who is smart and

1037
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: who had that in factor, who knew how to perform

1038
00:52:54,719 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: under pressure. And Garraziano's argument with the quarterback nineing with

1039
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Daniel is that completion percentage in the SEC and you

1040
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: can't use statistics for quarterbacks. Of course you can't, and

1041
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: so I don't think that argument holds any water. Look,

1042
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing that you have to remember football. And

1043
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: you sound like a young fellow, but obviously you know

1044
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: something about the game because you realize that it all

1045
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: starts in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Okay,

1046
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: that's where it starts. You can't build a house on

1047
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: quicksand okay, can't be done. The Giants have improved their trenches.

1048
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: They have improved their front seven on defense, and I

1049
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: call at the front seven because so much has happened

1050
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: now with the games and the sub packages and the

1051
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: defensive multiple looks up front, you have to call at

1052
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: the front seven. They've improved their front seven and they've

1053
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: improved their offensive line, so they've actually made their foundation

1054
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball better. Hence, the team

1055
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: is going to be better and anybody who says otherwise

1056
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: does not understand the game. Well. In respect to the

1057
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: point about Daniel Jones's completion percentage, Patrick, keep in mind,

1058
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: you know you could look at that number and it's

1059
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: a fact, but you also need to take into consideration

1060
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: the Duke offensive line receivers dropping balls. I don't know

1061
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: if that number is adjusted based on drops, nor do

1062
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: I really care at the end of the day, because

1063
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: we gotta wait and see what Daniel Jones on the

1064
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: NFL level, what he does there. But those numbers don't

1065
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: tell the whole story about the personnel he was working with,

1066
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: I guess, is my point. So that would not be

1067
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: the first statistic I would throw out to criticize Daniel Jones. Well,

1068
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: he didn't have a high completion percentage in the A

1069
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: C C. All right, well, what was he working with,

1070
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, what was the talent around him, and how

1071
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: did he fare with respect to that? How did that

1072
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: impact his numbers? That's important part of the conversation. In

1073
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: addition to that statistic on an island. Absolutely, And if

1074
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: you look at the previous um quarterbacks the Giants had

1075
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: won super Bowls with, they had that factor. They weren't

1076
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: the most talented in the league, but they had an

1077
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: offensive line, and that offensive line line gave them an

1078
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to work within the system. And you look at

1079
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, these amazing talented quarterbacks one super Bowl. Well,

1080
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Dan Marino, who is the most talented quarterback ever? Zero

1081
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: super bowls. Let's let's let's just say this. Phil Simms

1082
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: was not the most talented quarterback of his day, but

1083
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find coaches of his era

1084
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: that would not have wanted him on their team. And

1085
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: obviously had the best Super Bowl in NFL history. By

1086
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: the way, I I've said this before on the show,

1087
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give you the numbers, Drew Brees. Of

1088
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: the star quarterbacks in the game, he is the one

1089
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: that proves you can in fact improve your accuracy from

1090
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: the time you come out of school to the time

1091
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL. Drew Brees his lifetime completion percentages

1092
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: over sixty eight percent in the National Football League. When

1093
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: he was in college, his career college completion percentage was

1094
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: sixty So from sixty one he went up to over

1095
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: sixty seven. And don't tell me it's a small sample

1096
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: size because Drew Brees has been playing this game forever

1097
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: with different so so absolutely so, I don't want to

1098
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: hear that. Oh, based on his college completion percentage, automatically,

1099
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: he has a limited ceiling in the NFL. That is

1100
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: such garbage. Anyway, Patrick, appreciate the phone call. Thanks so

1101
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: much for tuning in and weighing in as well. What

1102
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: the last caller laid out by going down the road

1103
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: of the Aaron Rodgers the Dan Marinos, and it's something

1104
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot. You need assistance, you need help.

1105
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: The quarterback is not on an island where he's gonna

1106
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: win and lose games all by himself. People can throw

1107
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: out that narrative, that's fine, But Aaron Rodgers, if you're

1108
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: gonna tell me that he only won one Super Bowl,

1109
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: then that means that he needs a defense, and needs

1110
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: a running game and needs an offensive line. Now when fanners,

1111
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: the Packers have made the playoffs a lot more often

1112
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: than the Giants had, so they've been a consistent franchise

1113
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: to that degree, but they haven't necessarily been able to

1114
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: make deep postseason runs consistently. And why because once you

1115
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: get to the postseason, in order to separate the men

1116
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: from the boys, you need to have the defensive front.

1117
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: You need to have the offensive line. There's a reason

1118
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: why the Rams played the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

1119
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: They had the least amount of question marks and issues

1120
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: in the trenches. New England also had a really good

1121
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: secondary to make up for a pass or suddenly accounted

1122
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: for thirty sacks like the Giants, but it started on

1123
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: the interior. Let's head back to the phone lines. We

1124
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: got Jimmy in New York. Jimmy, welcome to Big Blue

1125
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: Kickoff Live. What do you have for us? Hey, guys? Yeah,

1126
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: all right. I want to make a point. Basically, camp

1127
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer with the right team around him.

1128
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: He had the least left in him. Um so that

1129
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 1: when Daniel I kind of had my heart said on

1130
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: a Russia and it did take a few days for

1131
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: to set in that we did take Dannie Jones and

1132
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: just comparing him to Dwayne Haskins. I know that there

1133
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: are a lot of novice UH football watchers out there

1134
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: that look at the stack just what you guys have

1135
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: been speaking about. They see fifty touchdowns to eight UH interceptions,

1136
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: and they compare his stats to Daniel Jones are right

1137
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: away you know they're screaming, bloody murder. They got the

1138
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: wrong guy. Just to give an example to that novice watcher,

1139
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: I went to a high school football game this year.

1140
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: Whether there were two spread offense, two spread offenses on

1141
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I saw two seventeen year

1142
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: old kids the world for eight touchdowns, over eight hundred,

1143
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards in passing entertainment. But the bottom oilers.

1144
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: I think this is the kicker that that everybody has

1145
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: to think about. One quarterback was committed to an FCS school,

1146
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: was going on Monmus Collins through tool for four touchdowns.

1147
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: The ever quarterback it was not even going to play

1148
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: college football on the next level. He was going to

1149
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: play re course at Harvard University. So the point I'm

1150
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: trying to make is it's so hard to scout, somebody's

1151
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: from a spread offense, especially with only one year of experience,

1152
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: and if you're looking at it from a from a

1153
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: simple point of view, at a scouting perspective, if you're

1154
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback in the first round, uh,

1155
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: on a QUARTP complot, you're gonna take Daniel Jones And

1156
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: not saying Dwayne Haskins is not gonna have a great career,

1157
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: but the bottom line is you can't take a quarterback. Uh,

1158
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: We're to spread offense face soon on this That especially

1159
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: what I've seen at the high school level this year alone.

1160
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: That's where I want to have to say, I appreciate

1161
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: the Uh, you guys, give me a little bit of time. Uh.

1162
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: You guys did a wonderful job with the draft and

1163
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: I do love the show. Have a great day, right, Jimmy,

1164
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you very much, Thanks so much. The other thing

1165
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: that you have to add to this conversation, and he

1166
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: was talking about spread offenses, they're also making these decisions

1167
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: about which quarterback to take because of things off the field,

1168
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: the conversations they have which nobody is privy to know

1169
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: what exactly goes on in those conversations, The classroom work,

1170
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: that they run them through some schemes. Hey, how do

1171
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: you react on the board based on what you see?

1172
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: All of those things are also a part of the

1173
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: evaluation process. So that's why anybody who just looks at

1174
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins stats and Daniel Jones stats and says, well,

1175
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins is ten times a better quarterback. That's fine.

1176
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: You're entitled to your opinion. But also know the Giants

1177
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: are not just making a decision based on numbers on

1178
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: a page and also what they see on the field.

1179
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: They're also considering how they interacted with the quarterbacks, the

1180
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: research they do about their upbringing, their family members, this,

1181
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: and that. There are so many factors that go into

1182
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: the homework that if you don't know all of those factors,

1183
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: you don't know what their takeaways were. So therefore it's

1184
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: very hard to understand, well, why would they take one

1185
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: quarterback over the other? If you had all the information,

1186
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: I think you'd be a little bit clearer. Let's add

1187
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: back to the phone lines. Lenn Is in Columbia, Maryland, Len,

1188
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: what's happening, Hey, guys, how you doing? Hey? Lat's first off,

1189
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: thanks for getting the answer to that quarterback question. That

1190
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: I posed yesterday. You got that pretty quickly. I appreciate it. Yeah,

1191
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 1: no problem. I think it was a great question. Yeah,

1192
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: Paul Greg Larson. In his first three years in the league,

1193
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: he started at tackle, moved to guard, then moved to center,

1194
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: played all three positions. He was a terrific ballplayer while

1195
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: he was on the tittle teams that went to the

1196
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: NFL championship games. Absolutely, actually that that that that really

1197
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: says it all pretty good. Hey, listen, um, I'm glad

1198
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: we signed Remmers. You know, we've got a veteran tackle,

1199
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: uh you know, right tackle. Good competition out there now, Um,

1200
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: and we'll see who, you know, who wins this thing.

1201
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna be Remers, but well, you know,

1202
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: we'll see as the year. As as as we moved

1203
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: towards Game one. You know, the one thing we haven't

1204
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: really had a chance to talk about, not just you

1205
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: and I, but as the off season has moved along,

1206
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: what what do you think about Barkley's need for better

1207
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: blocking at the tight end position. And now I'm not

1208
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: talking about down the field, I'm talking about that in line.

1209
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: Tight end it always seems to me is such an

1210
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: important position in the run game. What I mean, you

1211
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: guys have any feeling about where we where we stand

1212
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: with our tight end run blocking. And again I'm talking

1213
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: about in line tight end. What is your I mean,

1214
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: do you think we're I mean, hasn't been good enough

1215
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: for a guy named Bart, you know, for a guy

1216
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: like Barkley. I think better blocking at that at the

1217
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: tight end position. Again, inline um would make a huge

1218
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: difference an extension of that offensive line. And I think

1219
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: Red Allison, who initially under coach McAdoo, in my opinion,

1220
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: wasn't used to his full extent of of potential. I

1221
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: thought he played well last year. And to be honest

1222
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: with you, I have no problem with Redd Ellison as

1223
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: the inline blocking tight end. I think he is certainly

1224
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: an above average UH player to do that, and I

1225
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: don't see the complaint, okay, And are you comfortable with

1226
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: Simonson as well in in that that blocking scheme. I

1227
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: mean there were times where we were are at the

1228
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: end of the last season where we were using Wheeler

1229
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: almost as the third tight end, and I don't have

1230
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: a problem without either, to be perfectly honest, you know me,

1231
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: Come on now, Lennon, how long you've been listening to

1232
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: the show. I never want to hesitate. Yeah, and I

1233
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: never want to hesitate jumbo package. You know me. I

1234
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: have no trouble at all bringing in the sixth offensive lineman.

1235
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: If you've got a smash mouth that down the field,

1236
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: bring in that six lineman. They did that years ago

1237
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: with Cybered before he got a starting job. They did

1238
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: that with Jason Wittles. I mean, you know that, but forever, Okay,

1239
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: I you know, I hope you guys are right. I'm

1240
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a big expert on that. I just feel

1241
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: like we needed a little better blocking from that tight end.

1242
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: The one thing I like about Ellison. When Ellison catches

1243
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: the ball, Paul, he turns those shoulders north south quicker

1244
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: than anybody that I remember. I mean, he just turns

1245
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: and runs down upfield or downfield. But man, he gets

1246
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: some square real quick. I like that about Ellison. Um,

1247
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: I just think we can do a little better with

1248
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: our blocking tight end. Hey, listen, thanks for taking my car.

1249
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You gotta appreciate the phone call. Thanks

1250
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I think Ellison is somewhat of an

1251
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: underrated receiver. That's why I was gonna go where Lane

1252
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: left off in terms of what he brought to the

1253
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: table at times when he could catch the football. I

1254
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: know this is not necessarily an in line tight end.

1255
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: I also think it's relevant to bring up Elijah Penny

1256
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: and with him now perhaps having a full off season

1257
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: with the team, what he can eight at the fullback

1258
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: position to also help the running game. Let's not lose

1259
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: track of that as well. I know coach Shermer has

1260
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: said he prefers a fullback and that his fullback has

1261
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: to be able to catch the ball. Look, you're never

1262
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna see me Disci fullback. They had Hedgecock in two

1263
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: thousand seven, they had Hinoski in two thousand eleven, So

1264
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: you're never gonna see me Disci fullback. But I can

1265
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: understand if in today's game, as it has evolved, if

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Speaker 1: they decide they're better off saving that roster spot and

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Speaker 1: not using it on a fullback, and they want to

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Speaker 1: use it for somebody else, and they decide that they're

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Speaker 1: tight end blocking scheme and their jumbo blocking scheme is

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Speaker 1: good enough to get it done. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be a fullback, but

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Speaker 1: if they can make it work for sure, why not

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Speaker 1: Penny also has the ability catch the ball out of

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Speaker 1: the back field, which is a must if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a full back on this team. Sherman said that

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Speaker 1: over and over again, and I think that's the other

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Speaker 1: part of the appeal of perhaps using a spot on someone.

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Speaker 1: Like the final comment I want to make before we

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Speaker 1: sign off, the The one year that Remors was actually

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Speaker 1: able to play a full season as a starting right

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Speaker 1: tackle was two thousand fifteen when he was with the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, because in seventeen, again only ten games cut

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Speaker 1: short by injury. But in two thousand fifteen he did

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Speaker 1: play the full sixteen games as the starting right tackle.

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Speaker 1: I had him charged for four and a half sacks

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Speaker 1: that season. Then in the three postseason games he had

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Speaker 1: two sacklist games, and then in the Super Bowl von

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Speaker 1: Miller got him twice off for those forced fumbles. But

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Speaker 1: but in the regular season I had him only allowing

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Speaker 1: four and a half sacks in the full sixteen games

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Speaker 1: for the Panthers as their starting right tackle. In two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, Bass got him off the edge of Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Atlanta's Babineau got him off the edge on a stunt.

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Speaker 1: Beasley got him off the edge against Atlanta in their rematch,

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Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay's carter got him inside the delayed blitz.

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Speaker 1: Davis also got him on an inside move the bass

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Speaker 1: sack against Tennessee. I only charged him with half a sack.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't seeing it as a full responsibility

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Speaker 1: on him. That's why it came out to four and

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Speaker 1: a half in sixteen games. I think you'd signed up

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Speaker 1: for four and a half and sixteen games out of

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Speaker 1: him this year. Plus he also has a lot more

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Speaker 1: experience under his belt at this point in his career

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Speaker 1: to come short to where he was when he was

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Speaker 1: helping the Panthers get to the Super Bowl, So that's

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Speaker 1: important to note as well. That is gonna wrap up

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's disition a big Blue kick off live presented by

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Speaker 1: cores Light. Appreciate all the phone calls, will try to

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Speaker 1: address them tweets off the air for Paul Detina. I'm

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Speaker 1: Lance Man. Don't enjoy the rest of your Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: always stay locked to Giants dot com. Have a going