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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Papa's Perspective, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store and a

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Speaker 1: Mattress partner of the New York Giants. The one hundred

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Speaker 1: season celebration continues, and you know, we're bringing on various broadcasters,

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Speaker 1: and we said, you know, super Bowl forty two, Troy

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Speaker 1: Aikman was behind the mic for Fox, why not bring

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Speaker 1: him on board to talk about it. Troy, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for a couple of minutes. First and foremost,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. Yeah, glad to be on Bob.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, the Giants did their top one hundred countdown,

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Speaker 1: and a guy you know, all too familiar, Lawrence Taylor,

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Speaker 1: finished first in the voting, and it's been a you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a special season for the Giants, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's anything more special than Super Bowl forty two.

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Speaker 1: As you look back on it, Having done the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game and having done the game where the Giants

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Speaker 1: played the Cowboys in the divisional round, did you get

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Speaker 1: a sense going into this that they had more of

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Speaker 1: a shot than most people thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean they Obviously they had a lot of good

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Speaker 3: things going for him, the way that they played through

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Speaker 3: the postseason and into that Super Bowl, you know, but

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Speaker 3: New England that they had a lot going for them

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Speaker 3: as well. You know, But I don't know that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people gave them much of a chance going

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Speaker 3: into that ball ball game. But I think the fact

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Speaker 3: that I had seen them, you know, throughout the regular season,

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Speaker 3: but then also more importantly once they got into the

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Speaker 3: postseason and the role that they got on and the

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Speaker 3: way that they were able to carry.

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Speaker 2: Themselves, I thought they did have a shot.

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Speaker 3: And it was a team they were familiar with based

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Speaker 3: on the way that they finished the regular season as well.

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Speaker 3: So I think there was some familiarity, but a lot

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Speaker 3: of good things had to go their way in that game,

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Speaker 3: and they did.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, they were able to get a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: on Brady, right. I mean, the Patriots are leading seven

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Speaker 1: to three through three quarters, and this is a team

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Speaker 1: that had set every NFL scoring record. What was the

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, the key to their success, So being

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Speaker 1: able to hang with New England and sort of not

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Speaker 1: allowed New England to play the game they were accustomed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the entire key, Bob. I

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Speaker 3: mean the fact that they go into that game New

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Speaker 3: England with this high octane arsenal, and yet the Giants

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Speaker 3: were able to keep the score down and I feel

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Speaker 3: like that was that was the key, and giving them

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to win that game, that there was no

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Speaker 3: way that the Giants wanted to get into the shootout.

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Speaker 3: And the defensive front for the Giants, they dominated the

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. They continually harassed Brady throughout that game

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Speaker 3: and and that's why they were That's why they were

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Speaker 3: where they were late in the game with an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: you know, within scoring distance to win it. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: probably as people look back on that, it's a great

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Speaker 3: point that you make and even bringing it up because

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Speaker 3: people remember a lot of things about that game, But

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that that stands out as much

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Speaker 1: Think about even late in the first half, Brady hits

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Speaker 1: plus forty two or whatever it was, and then you

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Speaker 1: know Brady gets sacked and he fumbles the football away.

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Speaker 1: You know, they were really good at taking away opportunities

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Speaker 1: with the pressure on the quarterback. Tuck had a couple

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Speaker 1: fumble recovery. That team, you know, you played on some

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Speaker 1: great teams, some powerhouse teams loaded with Hall of famers. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at that Giants team, it was

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Speaker 1: really a sum of the parts when you think about

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Speaker 1: the guys that wound up playing roles for them. Obviously

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Speaker 1: everyone remembers Tyree, but whether it's a mad Bradshaw stealing

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Speaker 1: interesting team, the Giants, because it wasn't loaded with a

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean the you talk about straight Han and and

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Speaker 3: I think there there obviously were some really talented players.

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Speaker 3: But I've always felt and I think maybe I think

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Speaker 2: I just feel like they were.

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Speaker 3: They were the consummate team and and and teams are

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Speaker 3: what wins championships, and the Giants proved that. And I

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Speaker 3: think that I think Tom Coughlin's teams, by and large,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure each and every day. And and those Giants players,

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Speaker 3: I feel were very unselfish. I think back to the

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Speaker 3: teams that I was a part of that championships they're

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Speaker 3: unselfish teams. The Giants were unselfish during that year and

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Speaker 3: then put it together and it paid huge dividends for

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Speaker 3: But they represented that and it was reflected I think

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Speaker 3: I look back on that run for them, and I

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Speaker 3: up against anyone's. I just thought it was really magical

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Speaker 3: trying to make history of their own. It was quite

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Speaker 1: You know, it's human nature when we're working an event.

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Speaker 1: You're working the event, you're focused on the event as

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Speaker 1: you're broadcasting it, but you also get caught up in

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Speaker 1: and then Tyree gets the touchdown Cats to start the fourth,

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Speaker 1: kind of sitting there saying heself, they may actually pull

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Speaker 2: No, you're you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the fact that it was close

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Speaker 2: And then and then they were able to. So that

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Speaker 3: Bowls, and uh, that one is the one that certainly

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Speaker 1: And then suddenly New England in the fourth looks like

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Speaker 1: New England. They went down the field Brady wants a

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Speaker 1: it was like the first time all day, that was

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Speaker 1: the offense that we had seen all year, and they

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Speaker 1: And then the tyreplay, I mean, as it's happening in

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're on talkback with the director, like give

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Speaker 1: most insane play.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Oh it was.

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Speaker 3: When when it was unfolding in real time, I was

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Speaker 3: actually shocked that it that it didn't get called, that

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Speaker 2: That Eli was in the grasp.

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Speaker 3: I just thought, okay, you know, and and somehow he

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Speaker 3: And then talking with Joe after the fact, he almost

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Speaker 3: as well by what happened. And then the replay, you know,

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Speaker 3: Eli essentially just gives this guy a chance, you know,

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Speaker 3: for Tyree to be able to make the catch, which

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know where that ranks in the

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Speaker 3: history of plays by the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: It might rank higher in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you start leaking to the plays over

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Speaker 2: Just a just a phenomenal play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine David Tyree and and and him being

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Speaker 3: Certainly a play that I'll never forget was pretty phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Patriots fans haven't forgotten it either.

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Speaker 2: I haven't forgotten it either.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, you know it's interesting because you think

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Speaker 1: you know, everyone forgets about the big Steve Smith catch

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Speaker 1: it going. And then you know the Plaxico play. Eli's

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Speaker 1: talked about it a million times. In Placsico. They knew

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Speaker 1: were gonna sit on that slant and they couldn't wait.

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Speaker 1: As you were looking at it, did you see what

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Speaker 3: You know what as you're talking about that, Bob, right,

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Speaker 3: But I got like goosebumps because I I I remember

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Speaker 3: Joe's call on on that play, and you know Plexico

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Speaker 2: The exact words he used, but it was. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty minimal, but it was such a it

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Speaker 3: was the David and Goliath, you know type situation, and

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Speaker 3: and then to make that call it was it was

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Speaker 3: a great call. Uh yeah, I mean the New England

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Speaker 3: had been aggressive throughout the game.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: To be able to run this lant and go and

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Speaker 2: It was. It was a nice ending to what had

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Speaker 2: been a great game.

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Speaker 1: But Brady still had a couple of bullets left in

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Speaker 1: the beating that he took, and then for him to

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Speaker 1: deliver some of the throws that he delivered under fire

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Speaker 1: Corey Webster, I can't believe he actually admitted this. I

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Speaker 1: asked him on that tip play on the deep go

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Speaker 1: down the left side that Moss nearly caught. He says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was playing for the interception there. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get the pick and I'm like, dude, you realized all

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Speaker 1: you had to do is just knock it down. You

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Speaker 1: almost changed. Yeah, Brady Brady till the end proved his

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Speaker 3: Well, I do think yeah, I mean, uh, in in defeat,

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Speaker 3: I do feel that way. And I think that there's

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Speaker 3: a reason why Tom had the career that he had

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Speaker 3: and he was able to accomplish what he did, so

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Speaker 3: for him to battle the way that because you're right,

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Speaker 3: he took a beating, Uh in that game, I think

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Speaker 3: just illustrated to America, you know why he's the champion

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Speaker 3: that he is. But the other on the other side

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Speaker 3: of that, Bob, you know, with Webster, you never know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, we've all we've all seen enough games

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Speaker 3: and you know, the guy who intercepts the ball and

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Speaker 3: the game's over and they keep running, and then they're.

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Speaker 2: Coaches saying, get down, get down, you know. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's always.

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Speaker 3: There's always those elements that you just never know exactly

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Speaker 3: what players may or may not do. And so, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was fortunate that that didn't get caught.

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Speaker 1: And then Eli obviously goes on and wins another one.

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Speaker 1: Still holds the record for postseason yardage of any quarterback

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Speaker 1: ever for that eleven postseason. And speaking of beatings, even

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Speaker 1: though you didn't do that Super Bowl, you did the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. It must have been reminiscent of your

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Speaker 1: like rookie year in the NFL when you got pounded

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Speaker 1: pounding he took in San Francisco that day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just again going back to what I said

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Speaker 3: those Super Bowl runs that Eli had h I would

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Speaker 3: put those up against any quarterbacks postseason in the history

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Speaker 3: of our game.

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Speaker 2: I just thought he played at a level that it's

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Speaker 2: just hard.

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Speaker 3: To get to, and he's a big reason obviously why

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Speaker 3: they were able to win those world championships.

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Speaker 1: Troy, as the Giants celebrate one hundred seasons of Giants football,

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Speaker 1: obviously your broadcast so many of the games that you did,

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Speaker 1: including Super Bowl forty two, we felt it was apropos

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Speaker 1: to have you on. We appreciate a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's Troy Ig been joining us on. Poppa's Perspective. Brought

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