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Speaker 1: Please enjoy this classic episode all about the ins and

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Speaker 1: from how Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline. And this episode

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Speaker 1: about fit Spo slash fit Spiration is something that a

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Speaker 1: with some letters. And now back to our letters. I

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Speaker 1: got one here from James and it's in response to

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Speaker 1: our episode from a while ago on c sections. But

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Speaker 1: he had some Caesar related trivia for us, Caroline, and

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Speaker 1: I know you love Caesar related trivia. Um, and this

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Speaker 1: is in reference to us talking about the etymology of

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Speaker 1: C section. Why we call it a Ceserian section? To

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Speaker 1: begin with, he said, Pliny the Elder, the one who

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Speaker 1: died from the eruption of Mount Vesuvia's, composed a short

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Speaker 1: encyclopedia called the natural History, which we have cited before

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. There are all sorts of topics, including monkeys, aphrodisiacs,

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Speaker 1: and circumstances and conditions surrounding births, to name a few.

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Speaker 1: He actually goes the other way, sort of and explaining

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Speaker 1: the etymology of Cesian section. You see the Latin verb

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Speaker 1: side array means you cut, so He tells us that

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Speaker 1: the first member of the Caesar family, way back in

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Speaker 1: the distant past, got his name from his mother's uterus,

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Speaker 1: having been cut a sizo matrix utero in Latin. So

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Speaker 1: in his mind, it's not that we call them Cesareans

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Speaker 1: because that's how Caesar was born, but that the Caesar

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Speaker 1: family got its name from its eponymous member being cut

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Speaker 1: from its mother. Sorry, if that was redundant for an

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Speaker 1: English analog, it might be like having the family name torn.

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Speaker 1: Very interested. I appreciate etymology tidbits like that and family history.

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Speaker 1: You're talking to some nerds right here. Okay, So here's

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Speaker 1: an email from Erica about going to the guy NO

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Speaker 1: and she has a very good tip that I think

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Speaker 1: I might use next time. Ago, she says, even though

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Speaker 1: I'm in my thirties, I still get a little nervous

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Speaker 1: before a GUYO appointment, even though I know it's coming,

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Speaker 1: just because it can be so awkward and uncomfortable. But

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Speaker 1: I have the greatest tip that I learned that I

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Speaker 1: thought you might want to share with your listeners. It

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Speaker 1: has totally helped me not dread this appointment. I learned

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Speaker 1: this tip from a specialist, as I have vole videnia.

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Speaker 1: This condition means that if not handled properly, a visit

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Speaker 1: to the guynacologist could be quite painful to the outside

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Speaker 1: of the vagina. He told me to always ask the

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Speaker 1: guyn of college is to use a small speculum or

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Speaker 1: what they use on teens who knew there was more

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Speaker 1: than one size. I have had several different guinnas over

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Speaker 1: the years and they all respect my requests and it

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Speaker 1: has never been a problem. It is much less painful

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Speaker 1: did something good for my health instead of feeling like

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Speaker 1: violated like I did in the past. Hope that can

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Speaker 1: help someone, Eric. I think you just help to people,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully you'll help some more. So thank you very

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