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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence betteran.

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Speaker 1: This is Human Events with your host, Jack Persoviet christ

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Speaker 1: Is King.

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Speaker 2: Russia is making rapid advances in eastern Ukraine in a

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Speaker 2: fresh offensive push. Russian forces have captured multiple villages Indonia's

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Speaker 2: can delete Pro region. Ukraine has confirmed Russia's offensive onslaught.

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Speaker 2: According to Ukraine's General staff, sixty nine combat engagements took

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Speaker 2: dozens of Russian attacks were repelled, but Russian forces were

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Speaker 3: The victory wasn't stolen from him in twenty twenty maybe

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Speaker 3: the Ukrainian crisis that arose in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Ever, Pierre, I'm not so interested in talking anymore.

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Speaker 5: He's he talks.

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Speaker 4: We have such a nice conversation, such respectful and nice conversations, and.

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Speaker 5: Then people die. The following night, Herder he said that

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Speaker 5: you were going to change the line from any day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to make a new deadline of about ten,

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Speaker 4: ten or twelve days from today. There's no reason in waiting.

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Speaker 4: There's no reason in waiting. It's fifty days. I want

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Speaker 4: to be generous, but we just don't see any progress

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Speaker 2: Last administration lost track of three hundred thousand.

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Speaker 6: So President Trump committed, we're going to find every one

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Speaker 6: of these children. We've already found thirteen thousand these kids.

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Speaker 6: Over thirteen thousand these kids.

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Speaker 3: New details about what Team Trump wanted to know. Over

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Speaker 3: these past two days of talks with Maxwell, she was

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Speaker 3: asked maybe about one hundred different people. She answered questions

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Speaker 3: about everybody, and she didn't hold anything back. One hundred

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Speaker 7: And by the way, I never went to the island,

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Speaker 6: Twenty eight times.

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Speaker 7: I never went to the island. But Larry Summers, I

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Speaker 7: many other people that are very big people. Nobody ever

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Speaker 4: There was a group of people who attacked a couple folks.

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Speaker 6: On the street in Cincinnati. What I saw is a

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Speaker 6: mob of lawless thugs beating up on an innocent person.

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Speaker 5: And it's disgusting.

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Speaker 6: And I have every single one of those people who

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily Here Alive, Washington, DC. Today is July twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty five, Anno Domini. Over the weekend, there

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Speaker 1: was this massive, obviously racially incited mob violence in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: And people want to go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: They say, oh, well, you know, someone said something and

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Speaker 1: it's very clear that what started out as a situation.

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Speaker 1: And this is me just watching the videos, and as

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Speaker 1: and you hear a mob of people cheering, cheering, applauding, clapping.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to live like this. We shouldn't live

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Speaker 1: The only question apparently is that people have is whether

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Speaker 1: We have no idea what started this, But what you're

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Speaker 1: This is what happens when civilizations break down. This is

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Speaker 1: in peace and harmony. No, No, what do you get.

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Speaker 1: It's my tribe versus your tribe, and my tribe has

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Speaker 1: So this is what we've got, Tribe on tribe violence

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Speaker 1: on the streets of Cincinnati. And be right back, Jack

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Speaker 1: A former Department of Defense official Dan Caldwell joins us.

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Speaker 3: Dan, how are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, So how to get you on and

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Speaker 1: President Trump made some comments earlier today there in Scotland

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Speaker 3: These peace talks, which really.

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Speaker 1: Do seem I'm just going to say it, they seem

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Speaker 1: like they've installed out the battlefront is what it is

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks Jack, And this is a very important question.

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Speaker 8: So I would just say to President Trump the administration,

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Speaker 8: I understand where you're coming from. There's some short term

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Speaker 5: Likely what they do now.

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Speaker 3: And this really is the threat.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's the people of Ukraine who

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Speaker 3: And I remember traveling.

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Speaker 1: There during the war, to some of these areas that

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Speaker 3: And these are good people.

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Speaker 1: They don't deserve any of this, right back, Jack Psova,

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily, Real America's.

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Speaker 9: Voice that you talk about influencers, These are influences and

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Speaker 6: Jack, Jack, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Jock Silaker back live here at Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about all things Ukraine. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: all things that are going down on the battlefield, and

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I've I've heard a lot

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Speaker 1: And then there's Lensky himself, they're already protesting him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what happens if we're in a situation where Zilinsky is

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Speaker 5: Well, I just would.

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Speaker 8: Say that, you know, I think one solution here is

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's we were talking about it. That's that's

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Speaker 8: because again there's a political ramification to it. If this

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Speaker 8: You know, the way the withdrawal happened, the way the

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a European Christian nation and certainly we

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Speaker 8: for our service members, their families and veterans, because the

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Speaker 8: military healthcare system also takes care of military retirees. So

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Speaker 8: the message of the op ed was was this this

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Speaker 8: is a problem that President Trump inherited, just like with Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: But they have resources as a result of the One

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Speaker 8: Big Beautiful Bill. They need to make sure those resources

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Speaker 8: are being used to fix these problems and they're not

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Speaker 8: being moved into some you know, failing acquisition program that

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Speaker 8: just feeds the military industrial complex or or helps you know,

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Speaker 8: some pet pork project in some congressional district. We need

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Speaker 8: to fix these systems because when a military member has

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Speaker 8: to focus on his housing or his healthcare and broad

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Speaker 8: facing his family, that's less focused they have on their

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Speaker 8: ability to do their actual jobs, which is fighting with wars,

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Speaker 8: and unfortunately that often gets overlooked. So that was the

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Speaker 8: key message here is this is a problem the president inherited.

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Speaker 8: He has money to fix it, and hand the Department

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Speaker 8: of Defense should really make sure these problems are fixed

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Speaker 8: because they've also had a lot of success around recruiting.

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Speaker 5: They want to keep.

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Speaker 8: Those people and if these problems aren't fixed and people

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Speaker 8: aren't going to have it incentive to re enlist or

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Speaker 8: re up and spend ten twenty thirty years in the

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Speaker 1: Oh that's exactly right now. I couldn't agree more. Please

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Speaker 1: go check out this op ed. It's very important. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I did run down that statistic. And this

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Speaker 1: is a report from Brown University, the Cost of War

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Speaker 1: Project And okay, so Brown University that's what's put this

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Speaker 1: out and a project from the Watson Institute for International

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Speaker 1: and Public Affairs. Their estimate is thirty thousand suicides among

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Speaker 1: posts nine to eleven veterans and active duty personnel. So

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand, which is just a number that needs to

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Speaker 1: be said over and.

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Speaker 8: Over, and it's it's you know, moral engineery. It's how

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Speaker 8: we deploy these these guys over and over again.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're taking National.

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Speaker 3: Guard putting them on twenty two month deployments to the Zambos.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just infuriates me.

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Speaker 8: And I mean that's a whole other episode, but it's

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Speaker 8: it's a shameful that the people responsible for that.

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Speaker 3: Dan, we'll have you on again. Where can people go

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Speaker 3: to follow you them?

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Speaker 5: Follow me on?

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Speaker 8: Accit at Dandee Caldwell, that's the best place to find

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Speaker 8: my work right.

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, Dan Caldwell, former do O D official,

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Speaker 1: will be right back here.

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Speaker 3: Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is Jack.

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Speaker 5: Where's Jack Morrisy Jack? I want to see you. Great job, Jack,

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Speaker 5: Thank you? What is Jock?

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Speaker 2: You do?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: We have an incredible thinking. We're always talking about the.

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Speaker 7: Fake news, the demand, but we have guys, and these

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Speaker 7: are the guys you're forgetting bullishes.

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Speaker 1: All right, jackizobac Here we are back live Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: So Jeffrey Epstein, Todd Blanche, the Deputy Attorney General going

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Speaker 1: down and meeting with Gallaine Maxwell for two sessions, totaling

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Speaker 1: up to about nine hours. Now, longtime viewers of Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily here on Roll America's Voice will remember, this

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Speaker 1: is something that I've been calling for since her very

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Speaker 1: trial isself all the way back in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: saying look, you know, I remember from my time at

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Speaker 1: GITMO when you've got someone behind bars. Yes, it is punishment,

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Speaker 1: but it is also a source of information, and in

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Speaker 1: fact a source that is in a fixed position and

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Speaker 1: cannot leave. So you think of that as a library,

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Speaker 1: you think of that as an archive. And now finally

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Speaker 1: all the way up at the highest level, thanks to

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Speaker 1: the pressure by the way of people like the Human

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Speaker 1: Events audience, people like the Posse and the Patriots writ large,

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Speaker 1: we're now finally starting to see the wheels turn on

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Speaker 1: this at a very high level. You can't deny that

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Speaker 1: it's a very very high level when the Deputy Attorney

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Speaker 1: General has gone down and top Blane is a very

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Speaker 1: serious guy, work with the President on the impeachment, very

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Speaker 1: very serious. So I wanted to bring on Shane Cashman

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Speaker 1: to h to get into this a little bit, chop

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Speaker 1: it up. Shane, you know him of course from timcast.

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Speaker 1: He joins Human Events Daily once again, Shane, how.

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Speaker 6: Are you hey? Jack's good to be here, Thanks for

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Speaker 6: having me.

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Speaker 3: So what do you make of where the current status

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Speaker 3: of all of this? You know, a lot of people said, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're going to cover it up.

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Speaker 1: It's never uncertainly or have been cover ups, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people thought the government would never go back

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Speaker 1: to it. President Trump has sent his deputy Attorney general

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Speaker 1: there to a prison cell or at least the attorney

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Speaker 1: meeting room with Elaine Maxwell.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's great that we're talking to her. Finally,

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Speaker 6: I want to hear everything she has to say. I

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Speaker 6: think the American people deserve to hear everything. She is

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Speaker 6: a great source of information, although I will be I

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Speaker 6: urge everyone to be skeptical of what she says, just

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Speaker 6: in terms of her past. You know, what she's in

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Speaker 6: jail for is very serious. I you know, very reluctant

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Speaker 6: to want to say she deserves a pardon, but I

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Speaker 6: want to hear everything she says, just because what she's

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Speaker 6: complicit in doing is some of the most evil stuff

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Speaker 6: I can imagine happening on earth when it comes to children.

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Speaker 6: And then, you know, my skepticism is also rooted in

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Speaker 6: her familial ties, her father being Robert Maxwell. You know,

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Speaker 6: he was involved in some very serious, also high issue

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Speaker 6: crimes with the promise scandal in the early nineties, and

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Speaker 6: he himself was a bit of a like a medium ogul,

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Speaker 6: a bit of a Rupert Murdoch. I think they were

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Speaker 6: even COMPETI around the same time in terms of owning

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Speaker 6: presses like a pergam Press and even owning fifty one

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Speaker 6: percent of MTV. But that all said, you know, I

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Speaker 6: think there's there has been a mismanagement of information coming

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Speaker 6: from the administration, and I think a lot of the

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Speaker 6: people around the president seem to be saying things, what

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Speaker 6: maybe multiple things, and I don't think he really knows

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Speaker 6: how to handle it, honestly, in terms of how I

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Speaker 6: hear the messaging, which has been tough for the people

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Speaker 6: to hear. But this is a great step in getting

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Speaker 6: hopefully some more transparency, hopefully we can trust it. I'm

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Speaker 6: very interested to see what she has to say. Who

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Speaker 6: are these one hundred people she's talking about. I think

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Speaker 6: we probably know quite a bit of those names already.

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Speaker 6: And then my skepticism is also rooted in, you know,

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Speaker 6: this this case has gone on so long, and people

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Speaker 6: talk about the files, which is, you know, I think

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Speaker 6: are important, but it's hard to trust those as well

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Speaker 6: because they've been through so many different hands, through so

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Speaker 6: many administrations and people that you know, we don't know

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Speaker 6: what's been done to them, who to trust, and but

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm very, very eager to hear what they've

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Speaker 6: learned from going this time around.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, And I keep.

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Speaker 1: Saying over and over, you know, people say, you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you take the word of someone who's been

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Speaker 1: associated with this, And I point out that that's the

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Speaker 1: same as any source, right any source on any story

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Speaker 1: that you work with, whether you're an investigative journalist, whether

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Speaker 1: you work in intelligence, whether you investigator. Again, you always

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Speaker 1: take it with the grain of cell you always take

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Speaker 1: it as skepticism. You're not doing your job as a

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Speaker 1: reporter or an investigator. If you're not what you have

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Speaker 1: to do. Then next is called corroboration. Okay, so does

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Speaker 1: this match up with flight logs? Do we have another source,

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Speaker 1: maybe a pilot or something like that, someone who worked

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Speaker 1: there that can also corroborate what this person has said.

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Speaker 1: Do we have other And again, you know, when you're

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Speaker 1: the deputy Attorney General, you have the full resources of

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Speaker 1: the federal government at your fingertips. So you've got access

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Speaker 1: to every file that was created from the previous investigations,

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Speaker 1: as well as to data for in terms of cell

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Speaker 1: phone records, all sorts of things that can be sought for.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's really something where you know, and I remember.

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Speaker 1: I used to get that question all the time when

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Speaker 1: we would have congressional delegations or senators down at gwan Thomas.

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Speaker 1: How how can you trust these guys? Well, we don't,

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the obvious answer.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 1: I saw a speaker Johnson got asked the same question. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he was on Faced the Nation this weekend and he

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Speaker 1: got asked that question. He said, well, I hope she's truthful. Well,

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Speaker 1: but it's not just that speaker. It's that you don't

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Speaker 1: trust you you trust, but verify, Trust, but verify. That's

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Speaker 1: the answer. That's what it comes down to. And and

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Speaker 1: really look, you saw even President Trump. Now even President

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Speaker 1: Trump is talking about Harvard University and their connections to Epstein.

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Speaker 6: Point.

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Speaker 1: We know, Harvard University obviously is connected to so many

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Speaker 1: CRT and all of these you know, occupy movements and

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it. So the idea that a

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Speaker 1: place like Harvard would be so tied to Epstein Hoffman

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Speaker 1: people were going down to the island. President Trump before

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Speaker 1: confirming that he did not go to the island using

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Speaker 1: some select language, and I.

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Speaker 6: Said about Harvard really quick, is you know that is

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Speaker 6: extremely important because you know, not only Larry Summers was

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Speaker 6: the president of Harvard from two thousand and one to

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Speaker 6: I think two thousand and six. But then he I,

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Speaker 6: you know, as far as we know, asked for a

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Speaker 6: donation for his wife's like poetry videos from Epstein. I

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Speaker 6: believe that happened after the conviction. That's extremely suspicious. And

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Speaker 6: Trump I believe this morning the President mentioned Summers as

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Speaker 6: well when he was talking about the island. So Harvard

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Speaker 6: is very very interesting to me in terms of Epstein.

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Speaker 6: The other connection would be Eric Weinstein was a student

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Speaker 6: there and he's talked about Jeffrey Epstein's connections to the

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Speaker 6: math department and how he was Jeffrey Epstein was very

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Speaker 6: interested in gravity technology. I don't know what that's all about.

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Speaker 6: I would love to hear more about those connections, and

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Speaker 6: when it comes to that investigation in the corroboration you're

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Speaker 6: talking about, I hope to see a lot of that

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Speaker 6: and how affected at Harvard because our universities have been

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Speaker 6: completely captured and this is just gonna be one example

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Speaker 6: of how they're captured. You know, someone like Epstein is

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Speaker 6: a gatekeeper, a blackmailer, and why he's so interested in

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Speaker 6: these things is quite interesting, especially if I connected to

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Speaker 6: what I said previously about Robert Maxwell, who did pergram

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Speaker 6: on Press with a lot of science textbooks that were

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Speaker 6: in a lot of colleges, you know, so it's very strange,

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Speaker 6: you know, coincidences I'll put in quotes that connect Epstein,

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Speaker 6: Maxwell Glane to things like the science and just the

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Speaker 6: sciences industry in this country.

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Speaker 1: And this is what it's all about, you know, these

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Speaker 1: these ideas of he talked about genetics stuff. At one

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Speaker 1: point he had this ranch where he wanted to get

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Speaker 1: into you know, basically it was reproduction of himself, but

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Speaker 1: on a mass scale. And he had these ideas of

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Speaker 1: sort of like global depopulation, and it's sort of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, a seed bank, but a genetic seed bank.

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Speaker 1: And who knows, perhaps he's got some of those squirreled

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Speaker 1: away some But at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: the people are saying that we want to come with

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Speaker 1: this from a political perspective, and yes, of course it's

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Speaker 1: very easy to make this into an RS versus D thing,

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Speaker 1: but I think to your point, it goes way deeper

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Speaker 1: than that.

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Speaker 6: I think this is part of the spiritual warfare that

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Speaker 6: we are unfortunately trapped with in you know, we're in

659
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Speaker 6: a revolving door of tragedy and trauma that's connected to

660
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 6: you know, in my opinion, satanic pedophiles that are you know,

661
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 6: unfortunately have ingratiated themselves into almost every institution, maybe every

662
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 6: institution in the country, education, the arts. You know, it's

663
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 6: not just Epstein. He's just one part of a much

664
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Speaker 6: bigger thing. And so when I hear Trump campaigning on

665
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 6: Agenda forty seven and obliterating the deep state, something I

666
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 6: care deeply about. This Epstein story is a part of

667
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: that invisible network of you know, evildoers that are running

668
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 6: this country to the ground, that are turning it against us,

669
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 6: that have weaponized the government against the American people. You know,

670
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Speaker 6: that is the Epstein case is so important, not just

671
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 6: because of the children, which we want to protect and

672
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Speaker 6: keep protecting, and you know, they're harming the innocent. And

673
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 6: on top of that, it's also what are they gatekeeping?

674
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Speaker 6: What are they doing to politicians to make them vote

675
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 6: a certain way with our tax dollars. So this is

676
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: like a really important situation. It's really important for people

677
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 6: to not talk about. You know, they say, don't talk

678
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 6: about or move on. You know, I think a lot

679
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: of people are underestimating how important this story is, even

680
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 6: people who don't live online as much as you and

681
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Speaker 6: I might. I spent the weekend talking to a ton

682
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 6: of people just in the real world, family members, friends,

683
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: and strangers and just talking about Epstein and they're like, yeah,

684
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 6: that's insane story. And I'm like, you know, are you

685
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: on Twitter? And they're not as on Twitter as much

686
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 6: as I am. I'm addicted, you know. And people do

687
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 6: care because they see it as this destruction of innocence

688
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: and the attack on children. And also why is it

689
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Speaker 6: so closely related to our government and also governments around

690
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Speaker 6: the world. It's not just hours, So I think this

691
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 6: is incredibly important, and you know, I'm very anxious to

692
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Speaker 6: see what we get out of this. Galame Maxwell questioning.

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Speaker 1: Well and as simple as that, and when it comes

694
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Speaker 1: to the nature of these crimes, when it comes to

695
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Speaker 1: the nature of the by the way, just the crimes

696
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: that we know about, just the crimes that are public,

697
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: the crimes that are actually out there in the public domain,

698
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: that you could see there, that she was convicted for,

699
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Speaker 1: that she's currently serving trial for, excuse me, serving a

700
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Speaker 1: sentence for right now. That all came out at her trial,

701
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Speaker 1: beyond anything else that could be involved, even though we're

702
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: told one hundred names came up during the course of

703
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Speaker 1: this nine hours of question, which is really just an

704
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Speaker 1: opening night out by the way, and a Gemmo nine

705
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: hours is nothing. That's just that's like day day one,

706
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Speaker 1: day two, that is not so.

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Speaker 6: And I also remember like this, it's also about the

708
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Speaker 6: justice system. We know, we all know how it's been

709
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Speaker 6: mutilated over the decades and turning against the courseoal and

710
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Speaker 6: how other people are allowed to somehow walk and we

711
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 6: can't forget that when Epstein went to jail in Florida,

712
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: when he was put away for it was supposed to

713
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Speaker 6: be two years, he only did thirteen months. That was

714
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Speaker 6: a pretty sweet little deal he had.

715
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Speaker 7: He was.

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Speaker 1: Do you even have to stay there every night? We

717
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Speaker 1: write back Shane Cashman, jackalsobe Human Events.

718
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Speaker 6: Jack is a great guy.

719
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Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about it.

720
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Speaker 5: Don't get it from the beginning, and we're going around.

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Speaker 1: Man all right, Jack cviick back live here Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: This is a story the Shane Cashman over a teamcast

724
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: has been working on and he wanted to share it

725
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: with us because it's it's very interesting and perhaps goes

726
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: deeper than uh than we originally thought. And it's called

727
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna as shame, I'm just gonna shay Shaane.

728
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Speaker 1: What is the Gothic fire at Area fifty.

729
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: One So the official story is that lightning struck in

730
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Speaker 6: the area around here fifty one on July fourth and

731
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Speaker 6: started what became forty thousand acres on fire surrounding Area

732
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Speaker 6: fifty one. It's been I think contained. Last I checked,

733
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 6: it was down to half that, but you know, it's

734
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 6: been worse than the people. You know, there's all different

735
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 6: theories about it. You know, oh my goodness, are trying

736
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 6: to get rid of evidence, They're you know, trying to

737
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Speaker 6: get rid of technology that they don't want to be found.

738
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Speaker 6: Or it's just you know, a natural disaster and a

739
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Speaker 6: fire happening near a super top secret area. But the

740
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Speaker 6: thing that's interesting to me is that fires and Area

741
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Speaker 6: fifty one have a long history of infecting people, making

742
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: people sick who work there. You can go back to

743
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: the early two thousands and find articles in sf gait

744
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 6: where former staffers at Area fifty one say they were

745
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Speaker 6: in charge of burn pits that gave them cancer and

746
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Speaker 6: they were burning chemicals. You know, this is Air fifty one.

747
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Speaker 6: Of those that don't know is where like skunk Works,

748
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Speaker 6: there's a lot of building of high technology, like you know,

749
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Speaker 6: the stealth bombers, which I'll get into in a second,

750
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Speaker 6: and they were.

751
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just just you know, sorry, let me just

752
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Speaker 3: zoom out for a second. So guys, the vote.

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Speaker 1: Anyone doesn't know this by now, er Ififthy wanted one

754
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Speaker 1: hundred percent reel vitual place. It is part of the

755
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Speaker 1: Nevada Test and Training Range in southern Nevada. It's right

756
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Speaker 1: next to Groom Lake, so it has been a place

757
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Speaker 1: where the Air Force has used for many, many years

758
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Speaker 1: for these tests and experimental aircraft as well as perhaps

759
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Speaker 1: other things.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, a ton of theories out there. People

761
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Speaker 6: believe there's actra trustrial life there. People tried invading Area

762
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Speaker 6: fifty one a few years ago. But there's definitely Lockie

763
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Speaker 6: Martin and others out there working on future technology that

764
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Speaker 6: we can't even imagine yet. So, like I said in SFGate,

765
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Speaker 6: in early two thousands, there's articles from staffers at Area

766
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Speaker 6: fifty one saying they were sickened by these burn pits,

767
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Speaker 6: probably from chemicals used, maybe from paints or who knows what,

768
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Speaker 6: from things they were building. But the reason this is

769
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Speaker 6: so interesting now with the Gothic fires in the news

770
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Speaker 6: is that at the same time there's a new group

771
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Speaker 6: of Air Force vets who were also staffers, hand picked

772
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Speaker 6: staffers at Area fifty one working on multiple top secret projects,

773
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Speaker 6: one of which they're allowed to tell us was working

774
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Speaker 6: on the stealth bomber. And they had a barbecue a

775
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Speaker 6: few years ago. This guy, David Crete, had this barbecue

776
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Speaker 6: together and this was first reported in Newsmax. I want

777
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 6: to shout out them for just breaking this crazy story.

778
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 6: They all realized that this barbecue, they had all been

779
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: suffering from terrible cancers, and not just like your normal cancer.

780
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Speaker 6: It's like they all had grapefruit sized tumors. They all

781
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Speaker 6: had multiple cancers. David Crete believes, and this is a

782
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Speaker 6: coin to his doctors that this they call it the

783
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 6: invisible Enemy. From these chemicals in Area fifty one actually

784
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Speaker 6: altered his DNA so much so that it gave his

785
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 6: son a brain tumor when he was born. So these

786
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 6: guys started talking and being like, wow, there's a ton

787
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 6: of us that actually four hundred and ninety one people

788
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 6: have died as a part of this program over the years.

789
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Speaker 6: You know, they were out of touch for a while.

790
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 6: They got back together for this barbecue and realized, oh

791
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 6: my goodness, that's a lot of people from one department

792
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Speaker 6: out there four hundred ninety one is actually a wreath

793
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 6: now in DC for these four hundred ninety one who

794
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 6: were dead, and they're trying to pass some legislation to

795
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Speaker 6: get help because on top of all these issues that

796
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 6: you know they can't talk about and their their illnesses,

797
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: all of their information is data mask because it was

798
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Speaker 6: all classified information. So the VA can't help them because

799
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Speaker 6: they have no way to prove they were around anything

800
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Speaker 6: dangerous while they're out there working. So now there's this

801
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Speaker 6: push and I hope it happens for them to get help,

802
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 6: to get these things unmasked so these guys can find

803
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 6: I mean, some of these guys have just lost their tongues.

804
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 6: They can't walk, Like I said, the ultra DNA, it's

805
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: affecting children. That might remind some people who are listening

806
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Speaker 6: of things such as Agent Orange made by Monsanto during

807
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Speaker 6: the Vietnam War, and they said we're going to spray

808
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Speaker 6: our enemies of agent Orange, not really thinking maybe they

809
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 6: did know who knows how it affected our soldiers, and

810
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Speaker 6: it affected our soldiers in horrible ways. I have people

811
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Speaker 6: calling into my show who are family members of people

812
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Speaker 6: who had died from Agent Orange, and it's tragic, and

813
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Speaker 6: you know that also affected their children. So this is

814
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Speaker 6: another one of those stories actually that I just find egregious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, growing up, I had a EEA buddy whose dad

816
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: was a marine in Vietnam that he ended up being

817
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Speaker 1: part of it, getting some of the settlement.

818
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Speaker 3: I remember the whole thing from a young age when

819
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Speaker 3: that happened.

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Speaker 1: And I would also add that this something else this

821
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Speaker 1: reminds me of is you know, take the military potentially

822
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Speaker 1: aspect out of it. East Palestine, so East Policy. I

823
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Speaker 1: know you've done a ton of reporting there. Our network

824
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Speaker 1: of Corse Real, Marcus Voice and the great Ben Berkwam

825
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Speaker 1: was one of the first on the scene, has gone

826
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Speaker 1: back multiple times and again what we're all getting around.

827
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I know veterans who have had

828
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Speaker 1: all sorts of horrible experiences with burn pits, people whose

829
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Speaker 1: toenails and fingernails are falling off, all sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: So these these are all chemical symptoms.

831
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Speaker 1: What we're all talking about and talking around are clearly

832
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Speaker 1: related to chemical the specifics of which, to your point,

833
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: are very hard to pin down sometime, but the symptoms

834
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Speaker 1: don't lie, do they No?

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Speaker 6: And you know East Palestine is a huge disaster. You know,

836
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Speaker 6: our government was semi involved with the quote unquote cleanup,

837
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Speaker 6: and I just kind of shout out Ben for being there.

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Speaker 3: He was there, I was there.

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Speaker 6: Ben was there, and Steve Bannon were there in those

840
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Speaker 6: weeks afterwards when those people were completely abandoned. You know,

841
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Speaker 6: Boddajets showed up as like a pr stunt, total ridiculous.

842
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Speaker 6: And these people, for those who forget they Norfolk Southern

843
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 6: had the train wreck, they decided to blow up the

844
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Speaker 6: car that had this crazy spacing on the chemical they

845
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 6: had with vinyl chloride, and they literally what they call

846
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Speaker 6: it is they inverted the atmosphere above East Palaceine, trapping

847
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Speaker 6: everything all the chemicals. Major die offs. People with aparies

848
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: lost all their bees. They were told they can't use

849
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Speaker 6: their cattle anymore. Their agriculture just was done. They couldn't

850
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Speaker 6: use their water, and that was horrible and they got like,

851
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Speaker 6: I think two hundred bucks from Norfolk Southern. Later come

852
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 6: to find out they didn't have to blow anything up.

853
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Speaker 6: But this is a problem that affects so many places

854
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Speaker 6: across the country. You know, you talk about stuff like

855
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 6: dioxin or dioxide in Times Beach, Missouri, they just had

856
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 6: to close down the entire city and the government took it.

857
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 6: It's a brown site with eminent domain because you couldn't

858
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: live anymore. It's completely it would just it was. It

859
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: would make you sick, it would give you cancer. So

860
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 6: you know, East Palestine is still suffering. And I think

861
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 6: that those people all the time, because they just decimated

862
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Speaker 6: that entire town.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean one, uh got it. We're got

864
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Speaker 1: to add, by the way, to two other people who

865
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Speaker 1: were there. By the way, of course, then Senator JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance and as he was running for President Donald J. Trump,

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Speaker 1: they went at a time when to your point, nobody

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Speaker 1: is I've always, by the way, referred to East Palestine

869
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: as a real turning point for that was the turning

870
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Speaker 1: point in the story of Trump after the after jan six,

871
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Speaker 1: in a way that even the marl Lago raid wasn't

872
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: necessarily a touring turning point. I really think East Palestine

873
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: gets overlooked as just how important it was, and I.

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Speaker 6: Think it was a political thing in terms of I mean,

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Speaker 6: I don't think it was political that they blew it up,

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Speaker 6: but it was political that they were forgotten and abandoned

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Speaker 6: the Black administration because it's.

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Speaker 3: Like go there.

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Speaker 6: It's Trump, It's Trump territory.

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Speaker 3: These downtown's Trump Africa.

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Speaker 6: That so you know that showed out to Hollywood, don't

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Speaker 6: here about Trump clearly cared and it was great to see.

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Speaker 6: But you know, those people are still out there suffering.

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Speaker 6: They had and they had illnesses like that, little kids

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Speaker 6: with rashes that week. So and I just hope that

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Speaker 6: they're getting the help that they're that they need. But

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Speaker 6: you know, those people will tell you they grew up,

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Speaker 6: you know, say an hour or two north in Ohio

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Speaker 6: and there's a lake that just sometimes lights on fire

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Speaker 6: because the chemicals that are in it. So you know,

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Speaker 6: these things are unfortunately everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Right, and I'll never forget you know, the upa administrator

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Speaker 1: going down and people walking up.

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Speaker 3: Would you want some of the water? Drink some of

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Speaker 3: the water? Go ahead, it's all it's all safe. Here

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Speaker 3: you go, here's a cup, go for it. Will you

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Speaker 3: drink some?

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, people are tired

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Speaker 1: of the lies, whether it be East Palestine Area fifty

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Speaker 1: one Jeffrey Epstein. We're going to be doing a whole

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Speaker 1: piece on Oklahoma City next. People just want the truth.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they want the truth and let

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Speaker 1: the chips fall where they may, let the chips fall,

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Speaker 1: where they may give us the truth.

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Speaker 3: We can handle it. Shane Cashman, where can people go

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Speaker 3: to follow you and get your show?

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Speaker 6: Man, Jack, thank you so much for having me back on.

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Speaker 6: It's always a pleasure to talk you. Guys can find

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Speaker 6: me online at Shane Cashman on x and Instagram, and

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Speaker 6: the show is Inverted World Live. We go live every

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Speaker 6: Monday through Thursday at ten pm Eastern. We're a call

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Speaker 6: in show, so if you guys have weird stories, strange encounters,

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Speaker 6: something you just can't explain, you can give us a call.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Inverted World.

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Speaker 1: As a former longtime listener of the great Art Bell

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Speaker 1: even visited his compound once. Oh yeah, say that story

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Speaker 1: another time. Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my permission,

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Speaker 1: elih Sure,