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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: All Right, today's special guests. We've got Tracy Yukchen. She

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Speaker 2: competed on season eight of the Biggest Loser in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and nine. She's on the docu series Fit for TV.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. So let's get her on.

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Speaker 1: Hi. Hi, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? I see you.

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Speaker 3: Nice to meet you too. My name is Jana.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Janna.

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Speaker 2: So I am so excited to talk to you because

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Speaker 2: little known fact about me. I was a huge Biggest

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Speaker 2: Loser fan, Like I mean so huge that I went

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Speaker 2: to a live taping when I was living in Los Angeles. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was something, and I watched every single season.

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Speaker 2: I knew all the contestants. And so when this docu

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Speaker 2: series came out, I mean I was like talking to

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Speaker 2: my husband like, honey, we need to watch this. It's

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Speaker 2: Biggest Loser. He knew like nothing about the show because

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Speaker 2: he was overseas and so yeah, so I obviously remember

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Speaker 2: your story very well.

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Speaker 3: For the listeners that are listening.

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Speaker 2: When you got the call, was there any piece of

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Speaker 2: you that was hesitant to do the docuseriies to have

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Speaker 2: to kind of relive the stuff that you went through,

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Speaker 2: or was it something where you're like grateful for the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to be able to kind of tell the story

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Speaker 2: in your words as opposed to what we saw on TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually I said no a couple of times when

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Speaker 1: it came to doing the documentary when they had reached

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Speaker 1: out to me. A producer reached out to me on

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Speaker 1: I think it was Instagram or Facebook, and I would

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Speaker 1: always get like these little messages from people, and you

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Speaker 1: never knew if it was real or not, and I

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Speaker 1: would like dig a little bit and tind to find

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Speaker 1: out who was that you was this. I immediately had

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Speaker 1: this like outpouring of anxiety, and I did an interview

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Speaker 1: with them on Zoom just have a couple of conversations,

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Speaker 1: and that lasted a couple of times because I was

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Speaker 1: so unsure as to whether or not I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to go back and do and do an interview and

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Speaker 1: even talk about my time when I was there. And

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Speaker 1: I was also nervous because I didn't know what is

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Speaker 1: the edit going to be like because of what happened

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Speaker 1: to me when I was on the show. So no,

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Speaker 1: I said no a couple of times, and it was

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Speaker 1: actually really hard to stay in that space and actually

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Speaker 1: go for the interview. Even when I flew to California

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Speaker 1: to film, I still hadn't signed the contract. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: they still flew me there. No. My husband's like, you

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Speaker 1: did not sign the contractor are you sure we're getting

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Speaker 1: on a plane tomorrow. I'm like, oh, yeah, we're getting

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Speaker 1: on a plane. And I'm like, I just need to

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Speaker 1: I can actually say I can go through it.

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Speaker 3: This And once you were there, then it felt safe

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Speaker 1: I was in hair and makeup getting my hair and

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Speaker 1: makeup done and the producer comes over. He goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have to do this right, and I'm like yeah.

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Speaker 1: He goes, are you ready? Because this like we're committed.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to do this? And I actually went

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Speaker 2: There's so much your story that I because I watched

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Speaker 2: it when I was in my I mean early twenties,

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Speaker 2: I think was when your episode came out, Because how

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Speaker 2: many years ago was it?

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Speaker 1: It's been We'll see two thousand and nine. Was that

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I was in my twenties and I

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Speaker 2: and I at the time, you know, had different life experiences,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't remember pieces of your story. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: relating to a lot of what you were going through

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Speaker 2: during that time, you know, just made me have so

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Speaker 2: much more empathy for you. But I remember obviously your

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Speaker 2: I don't know, want to say character, but your storyline

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Speaker 2: so much because you know, the first challenge, you literally

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Speaker 2: almost died because they had you guys run Was it

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Speaker 2: a mile? It was a mile at that time? Before

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Speaker 2: that mile run? How long do you think you did

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Speaker 2: you work out before at all? Or was there any

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Speaker 2: like how how long have you ever run before that moment?

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Speaker 1: Probably in high school when I was like saw ball

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Speaker 1: or you know, ice to twelve aton and you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I think what I'm struggling the most

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Speaker 2: remembering your storyline with it all was I don't understand

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Speaker 2: how you became to be this like villain character or

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Speaker 2: the one that people didn't like, because I'm like, it's

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Speaker 2: not like you gave up on the first challenge. You

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Speaker 2: literally crawled to the finish line, almost died. So I

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Speaker 2: mean you said you were your body was what floating

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Speaker 2: I got? Didn't you get metavacked up into the helicopter? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, and then you came back, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, that's the thing where I'm like, as I'm watching

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Speaker 2: it and I still Tracy, there's a piece of me

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Speaker 2: that's Bill doesn't understand, even in the docu series, why

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand because I'm like, she didn't quit, she

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Speaker 2: came back when the doctor said she probably shouldn't, and

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Speaker 2: she's there and she stayed eight plus week. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't, like, I don't understand why still to this day,

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Speaker 2: they edited they edited.

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Speaker 1: You that way, they edited me so hard.

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Speaker 2: But why though I don't understand, I don't have an.

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Speaker 1: Answer to that. I wanted to go to the after party.

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Speaker 1: Doctor heizinga had an after party at his home and

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Speaker 1: from the show, and I couldn't go because I was

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Speaker 1: moving my daughter into college. But Janna, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: why not. But I wanted to be face to face

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Speaker 1: And I still want to ask that question. And I'm

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Speaker 2: I really don't know, because even in the challenges after

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Speaker 1: So what happened on the show was I I was overheated,

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Speaker 1: it's like you have hypothermia. So I ran one hundred

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Speaker 1: where my brain hurts so bad while I was in

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Speaker 1: the hospital. And your muscles release CPK. So if you

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Speaker 1: do lunges today right now, and you do like twenty,

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Speaker 1: you probably got to be sore tomorrow. If you're not

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Speaker 1: while I was at the hospital because that was the

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Speaker 1: last straw. I mean when I tell you that I

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But I think when you go back to the edit,

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Speaker 1: I think that the edit was I played, I played hard.

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Speaker 1: I played to stay and I told everybody it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a secret. The producers knew, so did the cast members.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I am going to play to stay here.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to lose.

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Speaker 2: Why not, right, so there's nothing that you can go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can own this piece of what I did during

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Speaker 1: Nope, I just played right. And I think that that

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Speaker 1: that's where even Allison Sweeny and the documentary, she's like,

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Speaker 1: Tracy came back with this sassy spark because I did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't cry. I was just and they called me cutthroat,

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Speaker 1: but all I did was just you know, I was nice,

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Speaker 1: I was myself, but I just I played to stay.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what's so hard for even fans

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Speaker 1: to stay. You don't. I went to lose weight, but

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Speaker 1: I took it immediately. I was scared someone else was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess people don't like that because they.

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Speaker 3: Find it as a threat.

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Speaker 1: So lately a threat. Yeah, they were so mad at me,

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Speaker 1: but everyone was so angry with me. They were so.

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Speaker 1: I felt really alone when I was there as well,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if it's because they from again from perspective

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Speaker 2: I just think you. I just aem so happy to

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Speaker 3: But I don't.

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Speaker 2: But you're there because you're trying to change your life. Yes,

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Speaker 2: be selfish, that's the thing, like, that's but.

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Speaker 1: That's not the that's not the person. That's not the

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Speaker 1: and I'm a Southern woman, so you know when you

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Speaker 1: a lot of women, we're portrayed that way, like we

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Speaker 1: should just give you everything we do, just constantly give, give, give, give, give.

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Speaker 1: We have nothing for ourselves. And I knew, like I

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Speaker 1: I know the skinny.

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you still close to anyone from the show.

437
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Speaker 2: I know you said to Hezenga, but like anybody else

438
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Speaker 2: that you're just that you still talk to trainer wise.

439
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Speaker 1: Or I do not have a relationship with Bob or

440
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Speaker 1: Jillian because I didn't have a relationship when I was

441
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Speaker 1: there on the show with them. I mean, if I

442
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Speaker 1: saw one of them, I'm sure I would say hello,

443
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Speaker 1: But but I don't have like that trainer person relationship

444
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 1: with them. And yeah, I mean I'm friends with everyone

445
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Speaker 1: from the show. We have a group chat, we chat

446
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: when we wish each other happy birthday. I'm super close

447
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: with Danny. I'm very close with Liz. You know, we text,

448
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: we make phone calls. A couple of them have reached

449
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Speaker 1: out to me after the documentary and really, you know,

450
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Speaker 1: thanks for sharing your story. I'm close with Amanda. If

451
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Speaker 1: you asked me, yes, I'm pretty much close with most

452
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Speaker 1: of them.

453
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Speaker 2: What do you think you would have wanted to the

454
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Speaker 2: trainers to do differently for you that would have made

455
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Speaker 2: it to be friends today?

456
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Speaker 1: Nothing, I don't. I mean they I feel like I

457
00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: know so much now when it comes to an exercise

458
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 1: and and what I've learned over the years that I mean,

459
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: they were hired to do a job, and they worked

460
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Speaker 1: for the biggest loser. They were there once a week,

461
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Speaker 1: maybe twice a week, depending on, you know, when the

462
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: last chants work out, when the other workouts were happening.

463
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Speaker 1: But I mean, they were hired to do a job.

464
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Speaker 1: And I don't really know if I could even answer

465
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Speaker 1: that question.

466
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Speaker 2: Janel, Right, Yeah, what why do you think? Obviously we

467
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Speaker 2: saw Danny and a few of the contestants and the

468
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: weight comes back on why why do you think that

469
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: fluctuation happens? Is it still the unhealed stuff or is

470
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Speaker 2: it truly the metabolic stuff that they spoke about.

471
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Speaker 1: So there is a book coming out called Food Intelligence.

472
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Speaker 1: It's going to be out September twenty third, and that

473
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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot it's going to be

474
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Speaker 1: covered in that with doctor Hall. So when we when

475
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Speaker 1: I became a contestant on the show, we started this

476
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Speaker 1: study and it's about metabolic adaptation and how our bodies

477
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: respond to food and exercise. And I believe the study.

478
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Speaker 1: Doctor Heizing and I have gotten into many conversations about

479
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Speaker 1: this because he has a different feel about how he

480
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Speaker 1: feels about the study. I believe the study. I have struggled.

481
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: I have done this over the years. I've gained weight,

482
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Speaker 1: I've lost weight. I'm not you know what I weighed

483
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: in at finale. You know I'm not a one hundred

484
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: and twenty seven pounds, hundred and thirty two pounds. I'm

485
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: not that weight. I've tried to get back to that weight.

486
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Speaker 1: I've tried to stay there, and I can't stay there.

487
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Speaker 1: I've tried. My body wants to be somewhere else. I

488
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Speaker 1: do believe that as if you suffer from obesity and

489
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Speaker 1: then you get down to a smaller size, your body

490
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: is constantly fighting you to get back to where it was.

491
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Speaker 1: I've experienced that for myself, and it's taken me. I'm

492
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: still evolving, I'm still transforming. I feel like it's taken

493
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Speaker 1: me sixteen years to figure it out. I'm more happy

494
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: now in my life life than I've ever been happy,

495
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: and you know, emotionally in my relationship with my husband.

496
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Speaker 1: So I'm so happy in my mind. It's like, and

497
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: then I want my body to be happy. Do I

498
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: love my body? No? I want changes all the time.

499
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: Went to the gym this morning. I was beating myself

500
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: up when my trainer was having me do stuff. But

501
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: I feel good, I'm very healthy, I take care of myself.

502
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: But do I want to be back at that way? Yes,

503
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll ever be again, and I'm

504
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Speaker 1: constantly doing more to get there.

505
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Speaker 2: So I've wondered if it's because I remember when I was,

506
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, trying to get back to baby wait stuff,

507
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: it was actually about the foods as opposed to I

508
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: would run every day, beat myself up with running, and

509
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see real change until I change my food yep.

510
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: And that's where I always wondered if that was the piece,

511
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Speaker 2: because like, I have a few friends that are that

512
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: have done the shots, that are doing the shots, and

513
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: once they're seeing results, now they're wanting to eat healthier,

514
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: but they still have the habit of having a higher

515
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: carbohydride whatever more like still you know foods that are

516
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Speaker 2: not very healthy. So it's like when you stop the

517
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Speaker 2: that then the shot, then you know the weight will

518
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: probably come back on because the choices of what they're

519
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: picking aren't the the healthiest options for a daily you know,

520
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: when you break down on the thing on the the food.

521
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Speaker 2: So I'm just curious if that is is that's also

522
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Speaker 2: a piece of what the book talks about.

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna it's definitely going to talk about about

524
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: JLP one. And I was in the study before JLP

525
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: one even came out on the market, and I had

526
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: a placebo for a while and didn't even know. And

527
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching all these people around me, and I'm going,

528
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: I was still the biggest loser. You should have never

529
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: given me a plassy boat. That's what I'm thinking. Inside.

530
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: I'm like, I really want to try this. This might

531
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: be a game changer for me. I'm still doing a

532
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: GLP one. But here's the kicker. I have to be

533
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: super thankful for the winds that I've had, but the

534
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: winds have not been with weight loss for me. And

535
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: I have an ow BCD doctor I see at Harvard.

536
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: I have a nutritionist there. I meet with them every month.

537
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: I've been going through this process for a while. It

538
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: does cut the food noise, which has been a great

539
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: thing for me. But you know, I have a lipandema.

540
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: It healed that didn't heal it. I still have lipadema,

541
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: but it cut down the inflammation. It healed some gut

542
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: issues that I had, So those were wins for me.

543
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: But as far as weight loss goes, I didn't have

544
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Speaker 1: like this drastic number and weight loss that I wanted

545
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: or that maybe some of my friends have. I mean,

546
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Speaker 1: there's some biggest losers that I have lost one hundred

547
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: pounds on JLP one and it's such a win for them.

548
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, why didn't that happen? Even

549
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: Doctor High and I have gone over this over and

550
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: over and over again. He's like, Tracy, you're one of

551
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: those anonymaly a not how do you say that word?

552
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: Anominally anomaly cases. He goes, you had rabbdo when you

553
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: were on the show. He's like all these little medical

554
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: things that go on. He goes, you are like a

555
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: test case for it. He's like, but I want you

556
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: to stay on it, and so I am.

557
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

558
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: Do you think though, it has a lot to do

559
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: about the types of foods or.

560
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: The weight loss goes if you're on a JLP one

561
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: or not.

562
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: No, not on a JLP one.

563
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I have to pay attention to my food.

564
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: I absolutely you have to. I definitely. I think your

565
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: environment is a lot as well. What kinds of stress

566
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: factors are you, you know, having on a daily basis

567
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: I think that is a huge deal. You know, my

568
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: kids are kind of everywhere. Something's going on with one

569
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: of my adult children, and I feel it. I'm an EmPATH.

570
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Then I hold things really, you know, I hold things

571
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Speaker 1: like that. So for me, Diane, exercise is such a

572
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: big deal. I know, I come from that diet culture.

573
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Speaker 1: I mean I went to weight Watchers when I was ten.

574
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Speaker 2: I would go with my mom when she was in

575
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: the weight Watchers and I'm like, okay, She's like counting

576
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: her eminem's and I'm like I thought, what, yeah, yeah that.

577
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: I hate to use the word diet, so I don't.

578
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: I eat all foods and I pay attention to what

579
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I eat, and I'm meal prep. I mean I'm meal

580
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: prep like you wouldn't believe. I love a good meal.

581
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Problem So well, I don't learn how to do that.

582
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: There's so many tools online now that you can just

583
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: watch a video and learn how to do it. But

584
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: the food is such a big deal for me, and

585
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: so is the exercise. They coincide together. I feel better

586
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: when I'm exercising, feel better when i'm eating. Well. I'm

587
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: also not a benge eater anymore. When I was on

588
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: the show, I just did ben eat Yeah all the time.

589
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean I did it when I was on the show.

590
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: We had almond butter there, and I thought, oh my gosh,

591
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: I was eating with my fingers like this.

592
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: It's me and peanut butter, just throwing.

593
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: It down my throat while I was on the show.

594
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god. Yeah, I have a problem.

595
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: A lot of people in the documentary were talking about

596
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: how Biggest Loser could not be on TV today. But

597
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: if if it was to make a comeback, I mean,

598
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: do you think it would work and what would have

599
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: to really change to make it be acceptable in today's society.

600
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to always go back to what doctor Heisinga

601
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: said on you know, on the documentary, you can't have

602
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: a show about weight loss and have it safe, especially

603
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: if you're going to put a prize on it and

604
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: do these strenuous exercises. We were working out like we

605
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: were professional athletes. Seriously, we were. If you listen to him,

606
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: he was talking about I didn't even know this until

607
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: the documentary. I didn't even realize that it was derived

608
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: from what he did, you know, as a doctor for

609
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: the football team, and they we really did work out

610
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: that way. I don't know. That's been the question of

611
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: the hour. You know, are these producers in the back

612
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: of their heads going, oh, we're going to do this again,

613
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and we're going to make.

614
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: It this way.

615
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: I kind of felt like that.

616
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Speaker 1: I hope they called me to host it.

617
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Speaker 3: You should, I'm your girl.

618
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean, because it's like you still got to have

619
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: the competition aspect. I mean, look at I mean I

620
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: look at these shows like Special Forces and like they

621
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: are pushing limits on what they're you know, what these

622
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: people are doing. So but I know this is a

623
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: little bit you know different. I would like to see

624
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: more of like a therapeutic aspect of it as well,

625
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: along with you know, proper you know, calorie stuff.

626
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Speaker 3: But because but again, at the end of the day,

627
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: it's a competition, right, and so people are going to do.

628
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Speaker 1: It is a competition. It just happens to be about

629
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Speaker 1: weight loss. It's a TV show, it's a game show.

630
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: It's no different than any other game show. It just

631
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: this would just happen to be about weight loss. And

632
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: you go there with that mindset of I'm going to go,

633
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this. I went when I made

634
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: it there, I'm like, I'm going to play the game.

635
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: I need to stay here.

636
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Well, Tracy, I I loved you so and I just

637
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: think you're great, and it was so I'm so happy

638
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: that your journey has really just come full circle and

639
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: you're healthy and you know, you're happy, and so that's

640
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: that's the win at the end of the day. So

641
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: I've always believed that it's never about because I used

642
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: to weigh myself all the time when my husband was cheating,

643
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: because I stayed with him for you know, six years

644
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: during the affairs to try to work through it. But

645
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: I would weigh myself and became this only thing I

646
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: could control was my weight, ye, and I became obsessive

647
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: about it, where now it's like, I'm I do have

648
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: a scale, but I mean I rarely go on it

649
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: because it's just you dip right back into that obsessive,

650
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: compulsive of Okay, I can't control what he's doing out there,

651
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Speaker 2: but I can control my weight, and it becomes you

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Speaker 2: become crazy with it, you know.

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Speaker 3: And so because you.

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Speaker 1: Get that I'm not good enough feeling, it just comes

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Speaker 1: all over you again. Yeah, I feel that way even

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Speaker 1: now when I get on the scale. I get on

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Speaker 1: the scale and I'm like you almost still defeated because

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Speaker 1: you know what work you've been doing. But I just

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Speaker 1: I walk away and I go, I am so happy

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Speaker 1: with myself. I have done so well. I am alive

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Speaker 1: and I just have to like constantly tell myself that.

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Speaker 1: And so I self talk in a different way than

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Speaker 1: with the way I used to self talk. And it's

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Speaker 1: hard because you look in the mirror. Even at the

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Speaker 1: gym today, I told you I was there and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking in the mirror, and my training room has said

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Speaker 1: to me, he's like, I know you're talking to yourself

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Speaker 1: in your brain right now. He goes pick it up

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Speaker 1: and let's go. Thank you for being here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for that accountability because I needed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know, keeping that positive because again,

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Speaker 2: when you just look at a number on a scale,

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Speaker 2: it just it'll ruin your day if it's like one

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Speaker 2: pound more or this. And it's like to remember to

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Speaker 2: go to the thank you for giving me a body

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Speaker 2: to move and that is healthy, and like that is

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Speaker 2: the that's I mean, that's even what I say on

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Speaker 2: my walks, like you know, just thank you for giving

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Speaker 2: me a body that moves that is healthy. That I'm

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Speaker 2: a lot like I'm able to move and walk and

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Speaker 2: you know, do all the things.

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Speaker 1: So it's such a win to do that. I do

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Speaker 1: that for myself as well. I absolutely and I have to.

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Speaker 1: I have exercise. I have exercise anxiety. So before I exercise,

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Speaker 1: I have really got anxiety. I've been dealing with that

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Speaker 1: for sixteen years.

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Speaker 3: Now I get I know.

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen. I know when I'm going to

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Speaker 1: the gym, I just and I know it's going to

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Speaker 1: be gone in ten minutes. But I have just self

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Speaker 1: talk myself. I'm actually talking to myself when I'm walking

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Speaker 1: in the gym. I'm like, I got this. This anxiety

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Speaker 1: is going to go away in ten minutes. I'm not

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Speaker 1: getting nothing bad is going to happen. You're just gonna

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Speaker 1: make it happen. And thank you for this body that

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Speaker 1: allows me to move, and thank you for giving me

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Speaker 1: the tools to do that. And when I say thank you,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually saying thank you to myself. I'm like, thank

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Speaker 1: you for doing the work, Tracy, like you did this girl,

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Speaker 1: you got it. Yes.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: And that's so empowering for everyone who's listening and hopefully

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Speaker 2: on their walk and saying the same thing. So this

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Speaker 2: is great Tracy. Anything that we can look out for

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Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 1: So the book is coming out. I know I'm in

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Speaker 1: the book. I just don't know everything. I'm waiting for

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Speaker 1: my copy to get here. But we I interviewed for

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Speaker 1: this book probably two years ago with doctor Hall. So

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Speaker 1: that's going to be on on food intelligence and on

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Speaker 1: our metabolic reset. So to say, Danny and I are

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Speaker 1: talking about doing a podcast, so I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's going to come together, but we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And I am hopefully going to go back on a

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Speaker 1: speaking tour.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. So I'm kind of getting

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Speaker 1: my media kid stuff together. I did that for a

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Speaker 1: little bit after I was on the show, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that I was gonna be blessed to be

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Speaker 1: able to do that, and I loved it. I loved

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Speaker 1: meeting women. I love talking to women, not just women

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Speaker 1: just like everybody, but women. Like I told you, I'm

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Speaker 1: a girl's girl. So if you're a company out there

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Speaker 1: and you need someone to come talk, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: your girl. I want to talk about help, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the show, I want to talk about wellness,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to like motivate so many people

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Speaker 1: out there to actually cheer for themselves, Like you should

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Speaker 1: cheer for yourself. I meant what I said when I

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Speaker 1: was only when I was on the documentary. It's like

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Speaker 1: I stood in that room, no one clapped for me,

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Speaker 1: and I learned right then, I'm like, that's okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: a clap for myself. I don't need anybody clap for me.

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Speaker 1: I can do this myself.

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Speaker 2: That's your book, Tracy. Clap for yourself, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like, we got it, we got it. We

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Speaker 2: have to ex the end of the day, it's it's us.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yes we have our family and our husbands and our

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Speaker 2: kids and our friends, but we are the ones that

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Speaker 2: move our body. We are the ones that are in

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Speaker 2: control of our body and our mind and our and everything.

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Speaker 3: So I got it. Clap for yourself.

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Speaker 2: You have to cheer for yourself because there's so much

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Speaker 2: negative noise out there, and so you need we have

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Speaker 2: to be the ones that empower ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I do hope to write a book. Doctor Heisinger

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Speaker 1: has been talking to me about this for years. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I will help you. I think we're going to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm little forward by Robert. That'd be great. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Tracy Well, you are a joy. So thank you for

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Speaker 2: coming on. I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me. Thank you so much, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for all your listeners to listen. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Back girl,