1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Ruthie's Table for presented by Sky. If your grandmother was 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: coming for tea or for dinner, what would you make well. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: I've got memories of my nan in Pakistan using a 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: mortar and pestile, you know, to break down the ginger 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: and the onions and the spices. Use a hardcoreed, proper cooked, 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: proper cook. So I'd be worried about her criticizing me. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: So I have to make a curry, okay, but I 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: have to do it properly. I'd have to use tomatoes, 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: not the tin type. I have to use original spices. 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: I have to get proper garlic and peela and the 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: onions and stuff, and I'd do it properly. Yeah, I 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: want to be I want to enjoy it. 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: If you know there was an apocalypse, if you knew 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: that you'd never be able to this might be your 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: last meal, and you had like a date to go 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: and get stuff, what would you get. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: For just me? So my wife teases me, So do 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: my girls, because I am actually quite simple. So if 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: it's if it's English food, I love fish and chips. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: It's got to be battered cod and chips with lots 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: of vinegar, pickled onion. That is my go to. I 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: must have catch up. If it's Pakistani food, it's again 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: very simple. It's what we call dog charl So it's 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: lentils and rice and a bit of I like a 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: bit of chicken on the side, bobeless chicken on the 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: side as well, it's called gried chicken with spices. That'd 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: be my goat is a And actually, if you're speaking 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: to a Pakistani chef, I said, that's very simple thing 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: to do. It's like panarabriata or you know, it's like 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: a fish and Chip's very simple. So I'm a simple guy. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: Okay, if your wife was really down and he wanted 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: to make her feel happy, what would you call? 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: She loves pasta? So yeah, pasta. She loves pasta and 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: so and again it's I mean, I can you know 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: passages is quite easy for me. I do you want 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: a tomato sauce? But she loves pasta and she likes 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: it when it's still hots u straight out of the pan. 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: Do you all kind of talk to each other? Do 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: you know the mayor of Paris or do you know 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: the mayor of Minneapolis? Do you talk to each other? 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: So there's there's the joy of technology. What it is 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: now is you can communicate, you know, I just thank you. 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: You can communicate virtually, or you can communicate your team 44 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: zooms and so forth. But also there is a network 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: of mayors and so in indition to being the Mayor 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: of London, I'm chair of what's called C forty. They're 47 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: the sort of one hundred biggest cities from Freetown to 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles to New York to Paris. And there's a 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: network of us and we meet regularly. We have conferences. 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: We discussed issues. Also we learn from each other. So 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, what what what what I've done that worked, 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: You may want to you may want to do what 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: I've done that didn't work, You may want not avoid. 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: And there's all fraternity. It doesn't matter whether you're of 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: the left or the right, the Republican or Democrat with 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: your labor or conservative. So you know, the mayor of 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: Paris and Hidalgo, I've sought lots of advice about the environment, 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: all all the mayors of New York, from Mike Bloomberg 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: to build a blacio to Erica Adamson now zoron Uh. 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: You know, I get on and talk to whether it's 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: the mayor of l A, Karen Basil before Eric Garcetti. 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited about what the new Maro of San Francisco 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: is doing in terms of you know, inheritance wasn't great, 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: that some of the challenges weren't great, and you can learn. 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: And the big period of time where we really worked 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: close together was during the pandemic. Because we know, this 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: awful pandemic began in Seoul, South Korea. That part, in 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: terms of our experience, went to Milan, came to us. So, 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, Guseppe Salah, the mayor of Milan, you know, 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: I was on the on the you know, almost speaking 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: to him daily about how he was doing with the pandemic, 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: what we could to avoid, what we're going to do, 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: but also things like how to remember. The vaccine came out, yes, 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: and certain communities were hesitant about the vaccine. So if 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: you come from a country originally where pharmaceuticals have taken 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: advantage of you, not unreasonably you're nervous about this vaccine. Yeah, 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: And so we were learning from each other. What I've 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: noticed is, you know, primetisism presidents are less collaborative with 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: other prominences and presidents, whereas mayors, we are more collaborative, 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: we work together. 81 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: And you have power. 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're faster, we're more nimble, nimble on 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: your so I think we're more in touch. Without this 84 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: sounds terribly anti prominiss and presidents. Let's just be clunky 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: and skill and more disconnected from the communities. Will we're close. 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: We use the tube, we use the bus, we're cycling around. 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: We are meeting on a daily basis. A chef for cleaner, porter, 88 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: chief executive, a multinational venture capitalist, and so it means 89 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: that we are ensued and we can change and adapt 90 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: as a consequence, which is really important. 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: But you're talking about fine dignities. 92 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: When you host people, do you find food something that 93 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: you want to also show them what it's like to eat, you. 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: Know, do you often often you see what happens, You 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: get you get people asking for recommendations, and you're really 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: really nervous about given recommendation because you know, I always 97 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: with a cafe of course, always experience right, because it's 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: on you and you don't own it. So you do 99 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: to give them a choice. And but I also I'm 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: very competitive and a bit of a show off. B 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: So if you saw this. But recently trip Advisor said 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: London is the best place in the role for food. 103 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: It's the best place to each house. I've been teasing 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: the living dad that's a fellow may saying, by the way, 105 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: trip Advisor, the world is London. Any place is fine. Yeah, 106 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: Paris is so eighty something there what do they know about? 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: But it is And I think one of the reasons 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: why London is number one is there is something for everyone, 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: no matter what your palette, no matter what your wallet, 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: no matter where in London you are. That's another great thing. 111 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: And you are very brave coming to here because for 112 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: those that don't don't listen, don't know London, the geography 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: of the of a cafe, you're you're not And I 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: say this, I love this part of London. You're in 115 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: the beaten heart of our city in terms of the ecosystem. 116 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: So if you're starting a business where you rely upon 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: people coming into your business, you need footfall, and you know, 118 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: you can understand why a restauranteur would have a restaurant 119 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: in the center of the city. 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: You would. 121 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: And you're incredibly brave for reasons you know that were 122 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: rehearsed here quite. But aside from people employed in the 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: architects firm. 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: In those days, we went had an American woman who 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: came and she wanted us to kill her a taxi 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: and we said, sure, we'll call you one. 127 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: Where are you going and she said London, there you. 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: Go and so but but I mean people will know, 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: people will now travel to come here because of a 130 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: certain reputation. 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: There have been times when I've gone to restaurants in 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: the center that are less full. You know, we are 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: also because we have the garden. But now it is true. 134 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: And so and so so wherever you're staying in London 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: and something it's something good to eat wherever you wherever 136 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: you want. It is saying good to eat whatever. If 137 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: you like spicy, if you like less spicy, if you 138 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: like certain types of wine, you're saying for everyone. 139 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: Ruthie's Table four is proud to support Leukemia UK. 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