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Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now,
Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross,
Speaker 1: we're back finally, kinda kinda Yeah, man, your heart's still
Speaker 1: in Mexico. Well, no, we're missing Jesse, that's true. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, my heart stays in Mexico. Did you bring
Speaker 1: back some pacos and stuff like that? You know, I
Speaker 1: spent probably forty dollars the whole time I was there.
Speaker 1: That was just tip money. I didn't I don't think
Speaker 1: I bought one thing really about that? Get to yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I forgot Man. You look, can you put them hats
Speaker 1: up on the h screen? That uh sham put on
Speaker 1: some nice ass. It was just funny, how so close
Speaker 1: to the camera next time? My arms aren't that long.
Speaker 1: You don't look that tan or anything. The weather it
Speaker 1: was overcast the first three days, so we only really
Speaker 1: got good Son the last the very last day, second
Speaker 1: last day. It was it was it was partly so
Speaker 1: did you what you to? You? And your mom? And
Speaker 1: who else went Patty stop? Yeah for real? I sho serious?
Speaker 1: So your mom is Patty? Yeah, Nate, all of them
Speaker 1: trying to are you looking at a minute and a
Speaker 1: half into the show and you already trying to piss
Speaker 1: my mom? Trying to get me in trouble. We ain't
Speaker 1: been on the air and together and three weeks and
Speaker 1: you already and you starting to show off like that.
Speaker 1: We love you, mama, growth having from so long, I
Speaker 1: ain't having heard from it so low. I just hope
Speaker 1: she hasn't gotten loss. We'll get her. We'll get her
Speaker 1: to call in next week. Okay, it's funny. I was
Speaker 1: back here a neutral party in Dallas, doing my normal thing.
Speaker 1: So on our working this guy was truly work text thread.
Speaker 1: We had Shannon with these shots from Mexico. The sun
Speaker 1: of the beach looked beautiful, and then he had Nate
Speaker 1: and Kyle sitting cold, bundled up hard man beanies, look like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you can show some of those shots, if somehow
Speaker 1: some way excuse them. Sorry, that's come on, man, what
Speaker 1: it is that's that's coach Johnson. Uh you know I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get in contact with him and reached down
Speaker 1: up and a few other guys that No, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get in tech us. Y'all know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, though, I'm gonna find the way in
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame. You're going, Oh yeah, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, and I know John it's a very private person.
Speaker 1: So I wanted people to reach out to touch him
Speaker 1: before I did, you know, because because you don't, you
Speaker 1: want to know my number? So and uh, I want
Speaker 1: to make sure my name is on all. I want
Speaker 1: to congratulation coach. Here's my here's my phone, numb an address,
Speaker 1: so you can tell them phone call me so I
Speaker 1: can beat up where to send my ticket? Yeah, yeah, whatnot?
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay for the Hall of Fame. You'll make
Speaker 1: you pay for everything you ain't getting. No weather of free,
Speaker 1: no free ride, no free ride in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: The after party. You get to go to the after
Speaker 1: party for that ain't free to somebody going to pay somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, what do you want to talk about to
Speaker 1: start with Senior Bowl? You want to tart with? No
Speaker 1: about coaching? No, we gotta get your a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes in on what you did where you actually await
Speaker 1: doing all of this in Mexico, so share that with us. First,
Speaker 1: it was kind of laid back this year, really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: wasn't laid back compared to most years. Huh, what is
Speaker 1: laid back compared to most years? I remember, I remember
Speaker 1: all of it, most of it, right. It was good.
Speaker 1: They moved it to a new uh, a new property
Speaker 1: and it's actually one of the properties we scouted for
Speaker 1: one of the Cheerleader calendar shoots were years. So it
Speaker 1: was nice. It was The food was a lot better
Speaker 1: this year than the old property we stayed at, and
Speaker 1: it was the property was a little bit nicer. The
Speaker 1: where they had the pool party was a little more crowded,
Speaker 1: but that was okay. So they had twenty four hour
Speaker 1: room service right right, which, believe it or not, I
Speaker 1: did not take advantage of frame room service twenty four
Speaker 1: hours because it was like an hour and a half
Speaker 1: wait because there were so many people ordering and drunks
Speaker 1: at three in the morning, rocks at three in the morning.
Speaker 1: But it was nice. It was nice. We so pool
Speaker 1: parties during the day and big concerence at night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get up about ten eleven o'clock. If you want to
Speaker 1: eat breakfast, you go do that. If not, you go
Speaker 1: to the pool. And you know, it's all inclusive. So
Speaker 1: all your beverages, alcoholic and non alcoholic were included. Girl, girl,
Speaker 1: you fen which my girlfriend was okay, God, man, that
Speaker 1: what you hate? You know, when I was a young
Speaker 1: buck like you and I was out having fun, you
Speaker 1: take your girl, huh than all these beautiful women I took.
Speaker 1: I took beach to the saying this year. This year,
Speaker 1: I was like, you be looking like That's why I
Speaker 1: was more laid back. I told my buddy, my buddy
Speaker 1: Jim that lives out in San Diego, he's been all
Speaker 1: six years. This was our sixth year, and uh, there's
Speaker 1: probably only there's I think they sell about five thousand
Speaker 1: tickets to this thing, and there's less than a hundred
Speaker 1: of us that have been all six years. Very few
Speaker 1: of us that have been from the beginning and at
Speaker 1: the end. I texted him once he got home, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you left your shoes and one of your shirts. I
Speaker 1: got him, give your address. I'll send him to him.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, man, I you were.
Speaker 1: You were more drunk more days in a row this
Speaker 1: year than I ever remember, or like I've always been
Speaker 1: drunker than you. Justiz how drunk you are Probably a
Speaker 1: little bit of both, probably somewhere in the middle. Ye,
Speaker 1: But it was good. The very last day, um luke
Speaker 1: Brian plays the Thursday, Thursday night and Saturday night and
Speaker 1: Saturday nights usually where they bring all the other people
Speaker 1: out on stages seeing and the last two when the
Speaker 1: Cloud in the Sky and the last two songs it
Speaker 1: poured rain, poured rain, sore, But it was actually really
Speaker 1: cool because he just stayed out and saying out in
Speaker 1: the rain and we stayed there with him. So it
Speaker 1: was good. It was a good trip, man. That's great. Man.
Speaker 1: It was a trip we had. We had a good time,
Speaker 1: so it was a good experience. So I can't wait
Speaker 1: to go back next year. So Kyle, what have you
Speaker 1: done in the last past week while Shannon was in
Speaker 1: uh Mexico. Well, I was actually working and doing some
Speaker 1: draft coverage right right with you. You know, can we
Speaker 1: get some details of what you've been doing? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be modest, I guess, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: of course the Draft show and we went down to
Speaker 1: Mobile hosted the Bark and as he turns the spotlight
Speaker 1: on back in voice, I feel like it's better for
Speaker 1: a listener, see no, no, no, But yeah, just kind
Speaker 1: of just really kind of diving deeper into these guys
Speaker 1: and getting a chance to see who the cowboys could
Speaker 1: be looking at come April, and uh, getting ready for
Speaker 1: the combine now is pretty much the big thing on
Speaker 1: the table. So Nate and I have been working pretty hard,
Speaker 1: and he kept texting me or not texting me, but
Speaker 1: being right beside me, trying to tell me to text
Speaker 1: you guys to make sure that you knew that Nate
Speaker 1: was working as well. He was the one that was
Speaker 1: kind of ye like the whole I knew Kurt was
Speaker 1: back working, but I'm like, hey, man, you didn't text
Speaker 1: this to Shadow. So everybody to know that who's working,
Speaker 1: who's having fun? You know, you know the best part
Speaker 1: of the whole vacation, like the concert was awesome, the
Speaker 1: thing was awesome, that the alcohol was awesome. Was I
Speaker 1: would literally get up because I told everybody something's important,
Speaker 1: text me or call me because I'm not checking email
Speaker 1: while I'm down there. I would literally wake up, rollover,
Speaker 1: grab my phone off the night's day look at it.
Speaker 1: If there were any messages, I would check them. I
Speaker 1: would put my phone in the safe. I would go eat,
Speaker 1: I would go to the pool. We'd come home at
Speaker 1: night before the concert, about five thirty six. I'd put
Speaker 1: my phone out of the safe. I check it again.
Speaker 1: I put it back in the safe. We'd go out
Speaker 1: that night. I wouldn't check it till the next It
Speaker 1: was so went off the grid. It was so great,
Speaker 1: so great. You would have time for how cold was
Speaker 1: it in Mobile? Y'all? That first day? It wasn't that.
Speaker 1: It was so Coco's forty forty forty in the forty Yeah,
Speaker 1: the wind, but the wind, oh damn. I would to
Speaker 1: do something. Man, if people are gonna come to your stadium,
Speaker 1: it's already one hundred and eighty years old, and you
Speaker 1: got sitting on bricks and steel. But anyway they have
Speaker 1: that it's in Mobile? Is it at a high school?
Speaker 1: At the Pebble? What is it? What's the name of
Speaker 1: the stadium? H Pebbles? Glad People's let's wear South Alabama plays? Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's a college. It's just an old college, sting ugly. Hey,
Speaker 1: do we have time to find out what Kurt? We
Speaker 1: got all day, man, Kurt, I was probably my most
Speaker 1: exciting thing I got. I was we were working on
Speaker 1: some of the nineteen sixty stuff, so I got to go.
Speaker 1: We interviewed Daryl Johnson, Tom Jones, Paris, so I got
Speaker 1: to kind of hang out with some of the big alumni.
Speaker 1: It was cool, cool man. That was sweet. Who was?
Speaker 1: Who was? Who's the coolest one you hung out with
Speaker 1: the coolest one or had the best I know, the
Speaker 1: best political one. Well, I'll say all the right things
Speaker 1: all the time. That's Derek Johnson, not the coolest one.
Speaker 1: Maybe will been big ada voice. Um. Probably Randy White
Speaker 1: was pretty because he you've seen the tattoos on his arms. Now,
Speaker 1: he's a big guy and he take the stories. He
Speaker 1: tells the stories that will not make it on cameras
Speaker 1: are those on the No, they're not. They were setting up.
Speaker 1: Me and him were hanging out and talking and did
Speaker 1: he use SB more just s more? Uh you know
Speaker 1: you'll call you a big health if you mean uh
Speaker 1: you some you know I did he like, you know,
Speaker 1: he got some words that just and when he says
Speaker 1: he said it was such emphasis when he because it
Speaker 1: was I'll tell you what, man, Yeah, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to mess with. He's a big How old is he
Speaker 1: probably around sixty and he's no, I'm fifty eight, that's right,
Speaker 1: and so Randy at least ten years old. He told
Speaker 1: me sixty nine. He's almost seventy and he's still jacked up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he works out all the time. And shake
Speaker 1: your hand, trainer, Yeah, he'll shake your hand and oh
Speaker 1: I shook his hand one time and he damned there
Speaker 1: broke back hand. He's funny though, he's a great guy
Speaker 1: and he's, like I said, he's got some good, good stories.
Speaker 1: So what we did, Nate, is we shot all these
Speaker 1: videos for this video put out yesterday and um, if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, go to our social media. It's
Speaker 1: we got two videos. One uh, one's kind of a
Speaker 1: history of the Cowboys with a bunch of plays and stuff,
Speaker 1: and the other ones this video. Um, with all these
Speaker 1: former players you were at the Senior Bowl. We got
Speaker 1: enough stuff out of most of these guys where we're
Speaker 1: gonna do little vignettes, right, so you will you sit
Speaker 1: down with us? Oh yeah, yeah, I'd be glad it's
Speaker 1: sit down with you, man. Yeah, I mean them ten dollars,
Speaker 1: gad up. Now yeah, hey, but so you did all
Speaker 1: of that. So how many players did you meet? Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't do them all, Channon. Actually he met with
Speaker 1: DeMarcus where he left and then one what I like that,
Speaker 1: I did six maybe, Yeah, it sounds right. How long
Speaker 1: did it last on average? Man, Well, we were probably
Speaker 1: there on average about an hour, but a lot of
Speaker 1: that was set up the actual interviewers. Maybe twenty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: de Marcus got long wind and we went probably an hour.
Speaker 1: You know what this this is what you know what
Speaker 1: bothers me on all of this is DeMarcus is a
Speaker 1: bigger cowboy than most people would know. And I just
Speaker 1: wish that we had him, man, Yeah, you know here
Speaker 1: with us, whether on the field in the media, because
Speaker 1: he's a bigger cowboy than you think. I know. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I saw pull the curtain back a little bit.
Speaker 1: We sat down and the original idea was just to
Speaker 1: go in, sit down with these guys for ten or
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, have him read a bunch of words and
Speaker 1: tell us the first thing that came to mind. Well,
Speaker 1: de Marcus he works over in South Lake. He started
Speaker 1: his own like exercise company, and he's got like a
Speaker 1: science behind it, and he's worked, he's trainer certified, and
Speaker 1: he's really into social media and digital media. He's got
Speaker 1: his own cameras, he's got his own camera guy. He
Speaker 1: does his own all this on. So he and I
Speaker 1: started talking, and when we sat him down, he wound
Speaker 1: up talking for like an hour and I would say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is not this is off topic. I just want
Speaker 1: to know this for myself. And I would ask him
Speaker 1: like the Saints game where he hurt his neck and
Speaker 1: he came back and he played, and he told me
Speaker 1: the whole story of how that played out. And then
Speaker 1: I asked him, so about the two thousand. The two
Speaker 1: thousand was at seventh season where they got the first
Speaker 1: round by and had a chance to go to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and asked him about that. But we were
Speaker 1: asking him these words, and I said loyal, And when
Speaker 1: I said it, I saw him start thinking, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I think he's gonna say Jerry Jones. And
Speaker 1: he said Jerry Jones. And he told the story about
Speaker 1: tday they basically cut him yea, and he talked about that.
Speaker 1: He went to Jerry's office and they sat down, they
Speaker 1: talked and he said, he goes, I want to keep you,
Speaker 1: he goes, and I want to ask you to take
Speaker 1: less money. He goes, but I think more of you
Speaker 1: than that, and I wouldn't ask you to do that, So,
Speaker 1: you know, go test or do whatever you need to do.
Speaker 1: He goes. But before he's like, I'm kind of hamstrung
Speaker 1: with the salary cap and I can't afford to pay
Speaker 1: you what you deserve to be paid. And he basically said,
Speaker 1: before you accept an offer, let me know where you're going, yes,
Speaker 1: how much the offer is, and I'll do everything I
Speaker 1: can to see what I can do. And he said,
Speaker 1: he said okay, and he was on the plane and
Speaker 1: he called him and he said, I'm going to Denver.
Speaker 1: This is what they're offering me. And he goes, DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. And he was like, I'll do
Speaker 1: anything I can to support your whatever. And he said,
Speaker 1: but I can't do that. And I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: how he worded it, if he didn't have the money
Speaker 1: or if he just said I can't do that and
Speaker 1: he said he goes, but you know, he was honest
Speaker 1: with him above the board, and it was such a
Speaker 1: cool story because you could tell he did not want
Speaker 1: to go he wanted to stay DeMarcus man. And see,
Speaker 1: you know, men d don't talk a lot, but when
Speaker 1: I see him, man, it's certain dudes I know that
Speaker 1: live for the brand, you know. And so when I
Speaker 1: hear him going back to dinner, when I hear this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, he just you know that that grub,
Speaker 1: that scrub, you know what, it'll make you do what
Speaker 1: you do. But you know, you know, cowboys for life.
Speaker 1: Like the guys you interviewed them, they are cowboys. They
Speaker 1: put me to shame because I grew up a cowboy fan.
Speaker 1: But I'll never be the cowboy that they are, the
Speaker 1: cowboys that they are, because I'm telling you, they it
Speaker 1: comes up, I'll be like, nah, now I forget that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But they it's like I
Speaker 1: never know for them, and it ain't gonna never be
Speaker 1: no for them, it ain't gonna never be no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every mind's Randy White told me a story about you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he said that you're you guys are might
Speaker 1: have been training camp in practice and going at it.
Speaker 1: This is like your first year. Yeah. So um, you know,
Speaker 1: Randy's the starter and Nate he's trying to back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going at it and they're getting a fight and
Speaker 1: they're like grabbing helmets and Randy said, he's trying to
Speaker 1: knee him in the junk. Yeah, they're going that everything,
Speaker 1: and so you know they're they're just worn out. When
Speaker 1: it's all done, Nate still trying to spot. He goes back,
Speaker 1: sits down at the bench and you know, waits his
Speaker 1: turn again. Randy's got to stay in there because he's
Speaker 1: the number one guy. That day or something, his backup
Speaker 1: was out, so he had he said it, man about
Speaker 1: died out there, and he said, you went to Nate
Speaker 1: after practice like, nay, we can't fight no more. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't keep up with that anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something good things. You really like him.
Speaker 1: You never know who speaks up for you. You know
Speaker 1: that burnt, don't burn no bridges. Sometimes it best just
Speaker 1: keep your mouth closed because you don't never know what
Speaker 1: people really think about you open your mouth and then
Speaker 1: they do form opinion of you. And I so I
Speaker 1: grew up on these guys. And Jimmy Johnson called him
Speaker 1: in the office and asked, those two guys, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Nate? No he may be big, but
Speaker 1: you need to keep this guy. And so I know
Speaker 1: forgot that, and that's what I said him. Us. So
Speaker 1: what I've been a man enough of cowboy enough or
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to you know, Wow, man, this dude
Speaker 1: you can see their future. And you tell a coach,
Speaker 1: a brand new young coach, hey, you know, keep this guy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be all right. Yeah, Randy said that too.
Speaker 1: He said he told him that, Yeah, I gotta keep nai. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy if you think about it, like,
Speaker 1: you only get and this is not just football, but
Speaker 1: everything in life. You only get a certain amount of opportunities,
Speaker 1: thank you to advance. I guess your station or your
Speaker 1: status or your job or they don't come around all
Speaker 1: the time. And I read a book one time that
Speaker 1: was saying people that really elevate themselves are able to
Speaker 1: recognize when opportunities go by, and when most people don't
Speaker 1: recognize an opportunity, you just recognize it as oh, you
Speaker 1: just cruise through life. But something like that, you you
Speaker 1: had already been a free agent, you were trying to
Speaker 1: make this team. Yes you may this may have been
Speaker 1: your last opportunity. And to know that you were close
Speaker 1: to not making the team, and you had certain people
Speaker 1: speak up for you. And you know, even though you
Speaker 1: had the talent, you had a chance with the Red Skins,
Speaker 1: you had a chance here if you would have gotten cut,
Speaker 1: who who knows what happened? You know, And it's just
Speaker 1: you see, you don't want to go down that role,
Speaker 1: that blind role, right, you know. And I'll give you
Speaker 1: a messed up analogy when the judge say, hey, sir,
Speaker 1: we're gonna offer you five years. But you know what,
Speaker 1: you can take you to a jewelry child and you
Speaker 1: may get off and you may get a hundred. That's
Speaker 1: a blind role. Give me the five ends. Not sure
Speaker 1: what the other one, But what's the reason? What you think?
Speaker 1: Oh that ain't yes, sir, Oh, sir, I thought it
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty hat he's wearing. Yeah, he'll be back.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you one more cool moment from yet?
Speaker 1: You can barely see him down to the bottom right
Speaker 1: of the street. This might have been the coolest moment.
Speaker 1: We're in Roger star backs off, Yes, setting up? Wow,
Speaker 1: who walks in? What? Yeah? So he just his people
Speaker 1: were meeting with Rogers people, probably some investment deal or something.
Speaker 1: So here you had like it was just kind of
Speaker 1: cool to see these are like two of the Mount
Speaker 1: rushmoors of Dallas sports. Yes, yes, and they're just they're
Speaker 1: just hanging out to talk, talking, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and from two different generations and two different sports and
Speaker 1: two different worlds. Yeah, yeah, they were yeah Germany, and
Speaker 1: Roger was in the Navy over here. That's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Navy had to go over there and bombing him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just cool moment to kind of be that
Speaker 1: wall I didn't know to beat Dirk, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's cool he met Dirk. Yeah, I got to shake
Speaker 1: his hand. You've been holding out on me this first
Speaker 1: I've heard about it. He's very friendly. It was. It
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Man. Oh, he's one of the most
Speaker 1: laid back athletes I've ever been around. Ever. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to him anyone. You know. He's even friendlier than Nate. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I can get mood. Yeah. Man, So we will go,
Speaker 1: but thirty minutes because we ain't got jess Man, we
Speaker 1: don't want to get into Let's take a break. Now,
Speaker 1: enough about us, let's get into we gotta hold Roger
Speaker 1: whole workbook of coaches that have been named to this staff.
Speaker 1: I have kind of a funny story about they had
Speaker 1: media day basically with the coaches on Monday. I have
Speaker 1: a kind of a funny story from my point of
Speaker 1: view anyway, and I'll tell that whenever I get back here.
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Speaker 1: So I hope Kyle to fans, they got to see
Speaker 1: those photos you put up. Yeah, so we I showed
Speaker 1: off the Shannon photo as you can see now. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's my new hat, the Shannon photo. Here's the one
Speaker 1: that Nate was talking about. Where it's me Nate and
Speaker 1: then Scott Purcell I look cold that we were very cold,
Speaker 1: miserable that big green about green beany you got on.
Speaker 1: Yeah that second day, Man, to get something, I just
Speaker 1: regrab something. It was green. I'm like, it ain't one
Speaker 1: hard to miss me man. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is about Mexico when I go, I have to
Speaker 1: buy stupid hats. Look good, man, look good at me.
Speaker 1: It's fun fun, all right. Something else that was fun
Speaker 1: this week Monday. They I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: the official announcement or if it was just to get
Speaker 1: to know the guys, but I think it's the first
Speaker 1: time they've officially said here's our here's our guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brought in all the all of Mike McCarthy and his
Speaker 1: staff and it was kind of funny. It worked out
Speaker 1: really well, but it was kind of funny the way
Speaker 1: they did it. They brought them in kind of in shifts.
Speaker 1: Were you down there? No, I went, we were doing
Speaker 1: a thing that wasn't No, that wasn't there. Um. They
Speaker 1: did them in shifts, and they printed out on pieces
Speaker 1: of paper the guy's name and then under his name
Speaker 1: the position that he was coaching, and they stuck him.
Speaker 1: They taped him on the wall all the way down
Speaker 1: by the locker room. So you have four or five,
Speaker 1: maybe six guys talking at one time with the tape
Speaker 1: with their on the wall, and they had him all
Speaker 1: the way around the corner, and it was like freshman
Speaker 1: orientation because all the media guys would swarm in. Well,
Speaker 1: I'd been in Mexico and I hadn't caught up on
Speaker 1: that they had named the whole staff. So I'm just
Speaker 1: walking along the wall reading the name because I had
Speaker 1: no idea reading the names, reading the position coaches, um.
Speaker 1: So it was kind of cool the way that they
Speaker 1: did it. And we got a couple of former or
Speaker 1: several former players on the on the coaching staff. Kirt
Speaker 1: go through, did anybody surprise you guys that they brought
Speaker 1: back or that they they hired that they brought in
Speaker 1: that did any names pout at you like, WHOA, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a big name, or that's a guy that
Speaker 1: I didn't see being on the staff. I would say no,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Skip Pete. I think Skip Pete's great.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's back. I guess I didn't. It surprised
Speaker 1: me a little bit, like when they first hired coach maccarthur,
Speaker 1: the first name I heard was Skip Pete. But then
Speaker 1: when they said it was going at a kid at Texas.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, what happened to skilp, you know what? Saying?
Speaker 1: Skill pop back on the scene. So that was a
Speaker 1: good hire. Bringing back leon Let I think was a
Speaker 1: good high rehire. What do you know about Joe Filman?
Speaker 1: Much about coach? I don't know much about any of
Speaker 1: these guys, except I do know that the best hire
Speaker 1: on this um whole sheet was John Fossil. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the best hire they could have done. That's
Speaker 1: a special team, yeah, because that was the worst special
Speaker 1: teams and probably a cowboy history that showed up on
Speaker 1: the field last year. And he came from the Rams, right, yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we had some good things to say Monday talking
Speaker 1: about you know, these telling building these guys up, and
Speaker 1: you know they're not starters, a lot of them, but
Speaker 1: there this is their chance to shine and kind of
Speaker 1: building up that chemistry and everything. So yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know that that bothered me last year because your your job,
Speaker 1: and you can ask Jesse, your only job in most
Speaker 1: cases is if I got to kick off, I got
Speaker 1: a straight line in an area. Outside of that straight line,
Speaker 1: if that ball go ten yards to the right, I
Speaker 1: moved ten yards to the right while I run, and
Speaker 1: that same area as mine and that responsibility I have
Speaker 1: to be a cognizant of the possible blocking schemes and
Speaker 1: who can come get me. But other than that, I
Speaker 1: got to just go get the ball to tackle it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but sixty five percent of the time, eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the time this ball going in the end zone. So
Speaker 1: that means the other thirty percent of the time that
Speaker 1: this ball came out of the end zone, you let
Speaker 1: them gut average almost thirty yards. That's sad. That's sad. Man.
Speaker 1: So even if coach just come in here and get
Speaker 1: us to to twentieth to twentieth in the league, that
Speaker 1: mean will be twelve spots from thirty two. Okay. One
Speaker 1: thing I noticed with all these they've got a good
Speaker 1: mixture of of older season coaches, a lot of younger guys.
Speaker 1: The one thing I noticed walking around listening and talking
Speaker 1: to some of the coaches was the energy and the
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because they're all like super
Speaker 1: polite and happy to be here until the season starts
Speaker 1: and then all the media starts criticizing them and then
Speaker 1: then they get grumpy and crotching, or if it's just
Speaker 1: the way this staff is. But I mean, everybody was
Speaker 1: super friendly, everybody was in a good mood. Everybody there
Speaker 1: was just a lot of energy. And I guess that
Speaker 1: probably should be expected with a new coaching staff because
Speaker 1: they're not they're not settled in, they're not just used
Speaker 1: to this is how we do it. We've been doing
Speaker 1: it this way for the last eight or nine years.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, hey, let's go, We're ready to work.
Speaker 1: One thing that that Mike Nolan, the defensive coordinator, said,
Speaker 1: they were asking I can't remember if it was he
Speaker 1: said it, and then I think Tom Seueller, the defensive
Speaker 1: line coach, both said it. They were asking, are you
Speaker 1: going to play a four to three and a three four?
Speaker 1: And they basically both said, really, in today's NFL, the
Speaker 1: only difference is if a guy puts his hand in
Speaker 1: the dirt or if a guy stands up. We just
Speaker 1: want to get the best players on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we're not worried about what the scheme is or
Speaker 1: what the personnel is. We just want the best players
Speaker 1: on the field. And I heard the dB or a
Speaker 1: secondary coach say the same thing. You know, what kind
Speaker 1: of guys do you like? Do you like big guys,
Speaker 1: he said, I don't care if as long as they
Speaker 1: can play, it doesn't matter. We want the best guys
Speaker 1: on the field. See I think that this got lost
Speaker 1: somewhere over the last four or five years. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want a certain player, and I use the left tackle
Speaker 1: as an example. You want a guy that can bend
Speaker 1: his knees that's number one, got good help flex that's
Speaker 1: number two, and got long arms. You want him to
Speaker 1: have the longest arms in the world so he can
Speaker 1: use all that athletic skill and don't let that guy
Speaker 1: get into his body. So you got those certain guys,
Speaker 1: So you don't want to get a team full of stumps,
Speaker 1: because that how to get your beat, no matter great
Speaker 1: how great athlete. But when you do find an exceptional playmaker,
Speaker 1: you have to have him. You don't want for one
Speaker 1: or two of those guys that may be funny built,
Speaker 1: but if they supersede everything that's put it for you,
Speaker 1: you have to take that guy. It never should be
Speaker 1: we don't value a position. It never should that. I
Speaker 1: don't know where that comes from in this organization who
Speaker 1: said it, but it doesn't sound right because you eliminate playmakers.
Speaker 1: If a guy it's six foot four, three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds, and he can stop the run. And
Speaker 1: that's all you bringing him in here to do, because
Speaker 1: that's what you need. What is the issue, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: not a great pass rushing, Well you just went out
Speaker 1: and page be stoy that us. All he gotta do
Speaker 1: is continue to maintain his run gap and just runs
Speaker 1: straight ahead. That's what most teams do, not they get
Speaker 1: a big six foot five guy three hundred fifty pounds
Speaker 1: and say, man, on pass downs, if you get caught
Speaker 1: in their path, just go straight ahead. Because if you
Speaker 1: go straight ahead and push this guy back, then my
Speaker 1: boys on the outside and take care of business. You've
Speaker 1: been screaming for that ever since we started this podcast. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and and you know we may not get to this today.
Speaker 1: What do you call him? A big fact swim? Come on, man,
Speaker 1: every team has that guy, and if they don't have
Speaker 1: that guy, they have exceptional I mean exceptional guy. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's athletic. You know. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: forty nine has got that guy, but they three technique
Speaker 1: is so dominant to that guy that does play the nose.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I say three, they player three four,
Speaker 1: But they slide down to reduce. Look where they bring
Speaker 1: the tackle down, where the tackle down to the over
Speaker 1: the guard, and then they bring that linebacker boser and
Speaker 1: you know what that's about it. So, man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: it'll be a shame for this draft to come and
Speaker 1: we do not go out and get us a run
Speaker 1: stopping guy. Every team has a guy. Hey man, you
Speaker 1: got thirty five players and all of the sistem first down,
Speaker 1: second and short, thirty short, red zone, goal line. That's
Speaker 1: your thirty plays. Thirty five plays. You're not giving any
Speaker 1: hope to Tristan Hill figuring it out last year. I
Speaker 1: pray that he does. But if this team is poised,
Speaker 1: and this is the question, how do you visualize this
Speaker 1: team or do you truly look at them as Okay,
Speaker 1: they should be in the NFC championship game. But if
Speaker 1: you're saying they're still building, okay, you want to waste
Speaker 1: your time do that. But if you deem yourself, hey,
Speaker 1: it's time to go sometime, I can only go by
Speaker 1: when I play. Coach Johnson would have distanced this kid
Speaker 1: so far from the team, so he probably would have
Speaker 1: walked away. Yeah, you know you you you only get
Speaker 1: on a team that's built to win. You only get
Speaker 1: some many opportunities because we don't have time to waste
Speaker 1: reps on you to develop you. Yeah, now if we
Speaker 1: if you expect to be eight and eight, Oh, come on, Christian,
Speaker 1: we'll pat him on the butt. O bad day's son.
Speaker 1: Let's change a diaper. Yeah. Yeah, well that's a good question.
Speaker 1: So guys that are under contract, so free agents, they'll
Speaker 1: just if they're not bringing them back, they'll kind of
Speaker 1: ride off onto the sunset. Yes, if you're if you
Speaker 1: got some guys that are under contract that this coaching
Speaker 1: staff decides it's in the right kind of guy. Well
Speaker 1: that happened before training camp. Well that happened during many
Speaker 1: camps and OTAs. Will they get them in camp and
Speaker 1: then decide, like what they think they have to bring
Speaker 1: these guys to camp. Yeah, you have to give every
Speaker 1: guy and hey, this is new, this is a new
Speaker 1: coaching staff. You're playing show us. Yeah, the year show us.
Speaker 1: Christian's had a year in our yeah, weight development, you know,
Speaker 1: so they see what he does. They won't do that
Speaker 1: based off of film. They'll they'll give these guys a
Speaker 1: shot and then make their decisions signing some of these
Speaker 1: guys to be based off of film, right, but the
Speaker 1: free agent. But the guy, like I said, the guys
Speaker 1: on the contract, they're telling them new coaching staff, new
Speaker 1: era or new way of doing things. Show it's who
Speaker 1: you are. See, nobody on this team has the stars
Speaker 1: and stripes that coach McCarthy has. You haven't played in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game and won. You haven't been to
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and one, so you you we don't
Speaker 1: need players running around trying to get players to the
Speaker 1: next level who ain't never been to the next level.
Speaker 1: You have a guy that's the face, and I think
Speaker 1: he's strong enough, you know, and entrenched in the right
Speaker 1: ways to get these guys to understand this is how
Speaker 1: you do it, you know, knowing his history and how
Speaker 1: he and he knows how to do it. Are you
Speaker 1: surprised that he's not going to be calling the plays?
Speaker 1: Oh very much, so very much so. And and see
Speaker 1: one thing, ainybody, I've never tried to play no games
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, and I don't do enough
Speaker 1: radio to even think about it. Series recorded everything that
Speaker 1: you're saying, bless a Herd That yeah, BI man, I
Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing wrong. This is what bothers me, man is.
Speaker 1: I thought we were getting the coach to get a
Speaker 1: little bit of his system and put it into our system.
Speaker 1: But evidently this was kind of discussed with the higher
Speaker 1: ups and him that this is what how they wanted
Speaker 1: to handle it, and he and he agreed to it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to run around with a conspiracy. Oh
Speaker 1: what do you you think? You know? I don't care
Speaker 1: at this point. It is all brand new, and you
Speaker 1: he's not gonna let this team fail, Jason be it
Speaker 1: from a higher authority, from by his own free will,
Speaker 1: let this kid drown in three or four games. Carson's
Speaker 1: not gonna let him drown, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: Keller Moore know he's not gonna let him drown. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna be more recepted to how they do things.
Speaker 1: You'll see probably both guys, but headsets on trying to
Speaker 1: make things right and making adjustments doing the game. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it because I know see
Speaker 1: I remember the McCarthy before him, and him and his
Speaker 1: main man got on wrong on the wrong foot and
Speaker 1: they was in the playoffs. Now, granted you had the
Speaker 1: greatest man on the planet doing it for you and
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But he was there and he was doing
Speaker 1: this thing. So I love the fact that we have
Speaker 1: him offensively. All I need is two questions answer and
Speaker 1: you answer one of them. John Fows straight up gonna
Speaker 1: get it right for us. Then our defensive guys, and
Speaker 1: y'all say, y'all have talked to them, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: run a lot of packages three four and four three.
Speaker 1: So here we go. Let's see. Yeah, a couple of
Speaker 1: a couple of notes on a couple of guys. UH
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coach Marcus Paul he was actually Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was here under coach war six Um, so he
Speaker 1: actually took over for Voi sick. I guess, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess Voix retiring. Yeah. Sure, I haven't heard where he's going.
Speaker 1: But Marcus got twenty one years experience in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Another name, UH coaching assistant Scott Tolzine. Is that name
Speaker 1: sound familiar? He I believe won a game in at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. Is a third stream quarterback for the
Speaker 1: Green Bay package. He went on to UH. He was
Speaker 1: basically kind of a career backup guy, went to Indie,
Speaker 1: played in Indie, but he played for McCarthy uh in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, So I think he's going to be in
Speaker 1: some kind of analyst role or some kind of assistant coach.
Speaker 1: Al Harris that is that is a major higher that him.
Speaker 1: Another guy uh next to him, Um, that Maurice Linguist.
Speaker 1: That is a major hire because of the fact that
Speaker 1: was the weakest component on our on our on our
Speaker 1: team was our cornerbacks and not that they wasn't uh
Speaker 1: they don't have great uh. After that, the skill, you
Speaker 1: just could see the confidence running out of these guys.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I'll played in Green Bay for several years,
Speaker 1: right he was on this was he on the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl team? I think he was, but I think he
Speaker 1: went in some overtime game and some some guys said,
Speaker 1: we got the ball first and because we want to score,
Speaker 1: and Al Harris came on the intercepting the ball and
Speaker 1: wasn't he game for greed? But that ain't think of
Speaker 1: what game it was because he I kept looking at
Speaker 1: him as like that guy looks really familiar because now
Speaker 1: he has he cut his he cut his dreads off,
Speaker 1: and he's got a little uh, he's got a little goat.
Speaker 1: I was like man, that dude looks really familiar. And
Speaker 1: that's he used to play in green Band. The mark
Speaker 1: they got him, he wasn't he wasn't him many years
Speaker 1: he played for Green Bay, uh seven seven? And then
Speaker 1: Maurice the guy, that guy the other DB's coach, he
Speaker 1: was at A and m Right played most recently. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so is it weird for them for teams to have
Speaker 1: two defensive back coaches? No got safeties and you got corners?
Speaker 1: And now another question you gotta ask it is coach
Speaker 1: Nolan gonna be the guy that connects it back into
Speaker 1: the front end? Is Al Harrison and Maurice gonna be
Speaker 1: these guys? But anyway, that that right there? You like
Speaker 1: that that we got? I want to know, And people
Speaker 1: look at me strange when I say this, Is it
Speaker 1: truly on the players or was it the technique that
Speaker 1: the players were playing? Yeah? You know, uh, I would
Speaker 1: hate for some of these guys to go from to
Speaker 1: another place. Now, I would hate it, but I really
Speaker 1: don't care. I really don't care. Let me you you
Speaker 1: she loved me. You know what bothers me is. Can't
Speaker 1: you honestly look at a Woozia and say, man, that guy.
Speaker 1: Just sorry. Then they drafted and so can you look?
Speaker 1: I know that my little man, he's a he's a
Speaker 1: slot corner. Uh, he's a slot corner. He's trying to
Speaker 1: play him anywhere else you put him in danger. That's
Speaker 1: just the bottom line. Uh. The other kid, Jones, when
Speaker 1: does it When? When does it become And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be funny here, but when does it come
Speaker 1: that we that we really need to sign our own guys?
Speaker 1: You know, Wilson outa here? Secondly the tackle for Kansas City. Uh,
Speaker 1: the other kid went before him at Kansas City. Now
Speaker 1: he did leading tackle. I'm saying to myself, Okay, when
Speaker 1: does when do we really keep some of these guys?
Speaker 1: You know? So Jones gone, Robert Quinn gone, Athley Brown
Speaker 1: could be gone, and I would just like to see
Speaker 1: and we'll get to see Ocac. We we we really
Speaker 1: gonna have to be cognisant. Is that the word cognity
Speaker 1: or whatever? Of OTAs and all of these things that's
Speaker 1: coming up because it's new. How do these players respond?
Speaker 1: Who do who do they start releasing as the season
Speaker 1: get close and close? Like whoa, maybe he wasn't maybe
Speaker 1: you know, because one coach is staff. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like you maybe to go to another chunty Staffs. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go ahead. Oh that's go ahead. Well one
Speaker 1: of my questions and maybe you're bringing up um Doug
Speaker 1: nust Meyer's quarterback coach. Now, how does that? I mean?
Speaker 1: This is he was up dad, he was a better
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, yeah than he was coach. But I guess.
Speaker 1: But Dak is going into his fifth season, he'll now
Speaker 1: have four quarterback coaches and he said one a different
Speaker 1: one in the last three years. I mean, is that
Speaker 1: are you playing with his mind? And here is that? No,
Speaker 1: it's still the same. His partner still his partness the other. See,
Speaker 1: you can't hurt that with a new quarterback coach. Now,
Speaker 1: I feel because he has his regiment, he knows what
Speaker 1: he likes. Now that the coach can put in some
Speaker 1: few little dudes and that you know on the field,
Speaker 1: you know hate stuff like this dude. But he has
Speaker 1: a regiment and a routine that allows him to be good.
Speaker 1: Now they're keeping the same offense basically with coach McCarthy
Speaker 1: just adding a few of his things in that they're
Speaker 1: keeping the same language. So it's surprobably your kidding. It
Speaker 1: wasn't brought back because because Dad didn't make a pretty
Speaker 1: good jump this year. Well, the thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: because I wanted kidding the Leon and I thought Colombo
Speaker 1: would be back, but we got a veteran enough of
Speaker 1: his line that coach, the coach, philbun he's a veteran guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He and a guy that's looking to go out the door.
Speaker 1: Like the guy that had the first he was looking
Speaker 1: to go out the door. So, uh, these guys will respond,
Speaker 1: They're gonna play a physical brand of football, I think,
Speaker 1: you know. So, Uh, these guys will respond, Yeah, they respond, Man,
Speaker 1: you brought a couple other guys, Leon, you just mentioned, Uh,
Speaker 1: Doug Nusts Myra moved from tight ends quarterbacks coach. Get
Speaker 1: Pete used to be here. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: And then Kelly Moore obviously is back. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, tell me something, timing, and it's amazing how
Speaker 1: you go from tight end coach to quarterback coach. And
Speaker 1: it's just how coaches think. You know. That was the
Speaker 1: craziest move out of all these moves. That was what,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, And and and then as soon as
Speaker 1: this is what I got was as soon as they
Speaker 1: moved him to quarterback coach, it was like such a positive.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, hold on man from tight ends
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's like, nah, he can coach quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was kind of out of his element. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you said it so well as much as we like Kitting, Well,
Speaker 1: why didn't they bring in Kitting when they just see him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And nuts Meyer's sons a big recruit in college. Didn't
Speaker 1: he in the quarterback? He's a quarterback too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he know. And so I'm not saying that what coach
Speaker 1: Garrett did was wrong, No, no, no no, because coach
Speaker 1: Garrett rolled up with Kyle m Kyle one, Coach Garrett
Speaker 1: riding with y'all on the plane. Yeah, he was on
Speaker 1: the same flight. Yeah, so he's gonna never get away
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. Yeah, Kyle, I heard. I heard that
Speaker 1: y'all had some some interesting uh CO passengers going and
Speaker 1: coming back. Yeah, tell us some of the people I
Speaker 1: had on the plane. So Jason was on one side
Speaker 1: of the plane on the way two mobile and there
Speaker 1: were a couple of guys scattered throughout, But on the
Speaker 1: way back it was Jason will McClay. Damn or you know.
Speaker 1: And then for those of you who know about uh,
Speaker 1: like those inspirational speakers, Gary Vee was also wrong. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what Mike Tomlin on a flight too. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was on our flight. I didn't see him anyway.
Speaker 1: I think he was on somebody else that works here's flight.
Speaker 1: And then there was another coach and everybody's like, why
Speaker 1: are these guys on our And apparently there's only like
Speaker 1: I think Dallas, Atlanta and somewhere else connects directly flies
Speaker 1: directly into Mobile, so they had to connect. I think
Speaker 1: everybody had to basically go through Dallas or Atlanta to
Speaker 1: get there. So pretty interesting, all right, nobody was on
Speaker 1: my flight? No use I drive. You don't fly, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're scared to fly. Andre the Giant would fly
Speaker 1: and you won't even fly. But Andre the Giant had
Speaker 1: to use the restaurant as soon as he got off
Speaker 1: the plane. Imagine those overseas flights. That's that's such a
Speaker 1: good documentary, so good, excuse me, due to the restaurant
Speaker 1: as he sits down the plane. So there was there
Speaker 1: was one player, and I'm sure there were plenty of more.
Speaker 1: But as the coaches were being interviewed. There was one
Speaker 1: player that was hanging out and waiting on the coaches
Speaker 1: to get done interviewing so he could go talk to
Speaker 1: the coach. And I will tell you who that was
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Speaker 1: talk about it. We'll wait till till Jesse gets back.
Speaker 1: So find out where he's been. He just flies all
Speaker 1: over the place. He is a jet setter, all right.
Speaker 1: So as Monday, as we are talking to coaches, there
Speaker 1: was one defensive player that was kind of just lingering around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: defensive player lingering around. He kind of showed up about
Speaker 1: the time the defensive coaches started talking to the media
Speaker 1: and he kind of walked out from I don't even
Speaker 1: know where he came from, but he was over. He
Speaker 1: wasn't hiding. He was walking around talking to all the
Speaker 1: media and he had just had a baby. His baby
Speaker 1: was like probably a week old, and he was just
Speaker 1: hanging out, and I didn't put two and two together.
Speaker 1: I thought he was just at the facility working out
Speaker 1: or going to get something out of his locker. And
Speaker 1: then I've talked to him for probably five or ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys walked up, and then when
Speaker 1: all the coaches kind of broke up, he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's like good seeing you know, I gotta go, I
Speaker 1: gotta go. I need to go talk to coach Nolan.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis actually came up here in person. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's plenty of guys that have come up
Speaker 1: to the facility to talk to their position coaches and everything.
Speaker 1: He was just the one. And we see guys we're
Speaker 1: in the training table eating. We see especially the guys
Speaker 1: that are rehabbing that have injuries. You see Xaviers Suaphilo
Speaker 1: going through here with his little card. Tyrone's been up
Speaker 1: here all offseason seeing you know, Cavan Frasier coming through.
Speaker 1: We talk about health. You saw a healthy guy. Yeah, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if that's a if that's any
Speaker 1: kind of sign or whatever. Like I said, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other guys that have been up here.
Speaker 1: But I saw it, and I just I thought that
Speaker 1: was really cool for him to come up here and
Speaker 1: come meet with the coaching staff. You know, basically the
Speaker 1: first day they were all in the office together. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was coincidence that that's the day
Speaker 1: that he showed up, but you know, I thought that
Speaker 1: was I thought that was pretty neat. He's got to
Speaker 1: be hungry, hungry for a job because he didn't always
Speaker 1: get a good chance under the last couple of years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to and what is this last year
Speaker 1: in this contract. You don't want to be just hunting
Speaker 1: out to dry your last year. You know, everybody want
Speaker 1: to play, want to show what they value or what
Speaker 1: they worth is you know, can they be an impact
Speaker 1: on this team where they have opportunity that That's the
Speaker 1: one thing about a new coach. You know. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: say that's use linebackers for example. Okay, you see what
Speaker 1: type of linebackers you get. You got, but the coach
Speaker 1: may say, hey, hey, on on certain places, we don't
Speaker 1: need you to stand in there, you know, not not
Speaker 1: you know, all our linebackers fly everywhere. Well, sometimes these
Speaker 1: guys may ask you to come up and bud heads
Speaker 1: with a big, big offensive linement to fill your gap.
Speaker 1: Because when you when you run a three four defense
Speaker 1: like these guys have your linebacker make a lot of
Speaker 1: the plays. But the linebacker are playmakers. And what I
Speaker 1: mean by that they had the ability to go through people,
Speaker 1: around people, and over people to make those plays in
Speaker 1: a three four defense. So norm you have a more
Speaker 1: stout of a guy or more uh rock solid of
Speaker 1: a guy, whereas in the uh four three you just
Speaker 1: got a lot of running got a lot of running linebackers.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys it's running free. You
Speaker 1: don't want you want them to be clean, especially that
Speaker 1: wheel linebacker the week side. You want him always running free,
Speaker 1: you know, making a lot of tackers. But in his
Speaker 1: other scheme to three four, your linebackers have to make
Speaker 1: some of their plays like what Boza does. And I
Speaker 1: think they running three four, dude, Luke SAMs is running
Speaker 1: three four or four three. I think they're three four.
Speaker 1: And then like don't don't they run three four up
Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh w play Yeah, yeah, yeah, and seek
Speaker 1: of the same kind of guy, right yeah. And see
Speaker 1: the thing about it is you can't have three four
Speaker 1: guys in a four three built like JJ is that
Speaker 1: TJ TJ wasatch. You can't have three or four those guys,
Speaker 1: but you can have one. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can have one, right, How Kurt, how do you
Speaker 1: feel overall about the coaching staff in kind of the direction?
Speaker 1: I know what's really early, but I think you've seen
Speaker 1: I think it's exciting. It's it's like what you said earlier.
Speaker 1: You've got a great mix of experienced guys, guys who
Speaker 1: have been head coaches, who have been through the trenches
Speaker 1: and done all that, and you've got some of this
Speaker 1: young talent that seems like they're really you know, exciting
Speaker 1: on the ball, hungry, ready to go. I think it's
Speaker 1: a great mix of guys, and it's I mean, we
Speaker 1: know this team has talent, and I think this coaching
Speaker 1: staff might be better suited to bring it out. Bring
Speaker 1: it out, you know, because like we talked about um
Speaker 1: Calm last year, maybe there were some times he was
Speaker 1: in over his head or yeah, they wanted Jason to
Speaker 1: be able to kind of fill in the gas. Yeah
Speaker 1: of him and some other guys, Well, that's not going
Speaker 1: to be as big a problem this year, I don't
Speaker 1: think because you've got guys that are experienced experience, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about him as a group? I
Speaker 1: like it for the same reason that you guys are.
Speaker 1: And what coach said was and it maybe the same
Speaker 1: with Coach Garrett too, But what coach said out loud
Speaker 1: during this press conference is I'm hiring guys who you
Speaker 1: see on the first day gonna be like that on
Speaker 1: the last day. Their attitudes and and and what they're
Speaker 1: bringing to the table is gonna be consistent. And so
Speaker 1: if you got a happy coach today, because just because
Speaker 1: he got a little cold, lamar, you can't get the
Speaker 1: grumpy coach, you know, like my wife does when I'm
Speaker 1: getting listen, you know. So I just love it, man
Speaker 1: that Okay, it's new blood, it's fresh blood. Okay, old
Speaker 1: with the young with the new We got old school,
Speaker 1: new school. Now is the guy that's over at Coach mccarthur.
Speaker 1: Can he bringing all together in a short period of time.
Speaker 1: He don't have the window that that the Carolina Pounthers
Speaker 1: gay with their head coach. He don't have that winder,
Speaker 1: the window that maybe the New York Giants have to
Speaker 1: give their head coach is now he's not on the
Speaker 1: coach Garrett plan. Yeah right, yeah, he's gonna win now. Man,
Speaker 1: I think the most encouraging thing to me. And it
Speaker 1: just looks like, from the outside looking in, that he
Speaker 1: was able to make the moves that he wanted to make.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like here's who you've got to keep,
Speaker 1: here's who you know, we're on the fence. It looks like,
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, like go build your staff,
Speaker 1: you know, because the one that I was kind of
Speaker 1: worried about was Kellen. But he said in this press conference, Hey,
Speaker 1: Kellen was a guy that I was looking at. No
Speaker 1: matter where I wound up going, I was keeping tabs
Speaker 1: on what he was doing and where he was going. So,
Speaker 1: you know, unless that was just a charade to kind
Speaker 1: of hide that, you know, you were told that you
Speaker 1: had to keep Kellen, it sounds like all of these
Speaker 1: guys or guys you know that he wanted to bring in.
Speaker 1: But you know what, as I was saying last year,
Speaker 1: brother Shannon, is when they when they said Keller Moore
Speaker 1: was to play caller, I was so against it. Remember,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, why you know this is coaches
Speaker 1: last year, give him my proportune to let him call
Speaker 1: his own offenses. Well, even if they said we want
Speaker 1: you to keep caller Moore, he probably said, but I
Speaker 1: got control of this right, and he probably in the
Speaker 1: owner's right. Yes, sir, so he's not gonna let the
Speaker 1: kid fall. If I need to take something over, I
Speaker 1: get to yeah, let me. They probably say like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can run it, because mister Jones, you know, even
Speaker 1: though they may not care, they still don't want people saying, wow,
Speaker 1: here we go again. You know, I'm being honest. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're a true fan like most of us are,
Speaker 1: you don't want to you know, one thing you don't
Speaker 1: want us Here we go again. Yeah? Right, then the
Speaker 1: press conference come yeah, well Kella Morris to play caller? Really,
Speaker 1: you the head coach, You get what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: don't want that because it won't be fourteen or fifteen
Speaker 1: games before the stadium empty, to be about like six
Speaker 1: or seven in the stadium would be empty, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I think when that was mentioned that
Speaker 1: he was okay with it. I think that coach McCarthy
Speaker 1: was okay with it. He said, all right, let's do
Speaker 1: this I'm running it. Let's do this, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because you cannot. This would be the filth of six
Speaker 1: year for Dak and Zeke and our office. The line
Speaker 1: have been together for over six years and they ain't
Speaker 1: getting no younger. So now this window it's going, I'm
Speaker 1: telling it is moving fast, you know. And just looking
Speaker 1: through this sheet like, I think these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. I saw at some point every one of
Speaker 1: these coaches smile. I did well. The smiles. The smiles
Speaker 1: will leave as the rigors of the season lay out right.
Speaker 1: The smiles me. But I think by what he said
Speaker 1: is I want consistent guys. So if these guys talk
Speaker 1: to you, I think they'll talk to you down the
Speaker 1: role when lows the draw. I think they've been battle
Speaker 1: tested enough. Our player tested enough. Because you've got a
Speaker 1: few players to know that. Okay, I gotta face the media.
Speaker 1: You do what you do. You know I won't be
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised though, because I have most staffs
Speaker 1: are starting to do this. Is they everybody's starting to
Speaker 1: get tight when the season started. They they don't share
Speaker 1: as much when the season started. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I will tell you this the coaches have not figured
Speaker 1: out the pecking order in the lunch room because coach
Speaker 1: Philbin was behind me Monday and there were about four
Speaker 1: people in front of us. And protocol in the lunch
Speaker 1: room is if a player coach gets in line, they
Speaker 1: go straight to the front, yeah, because usually they're getting
Speaker 1: food to go and they're gone back up to their office.
Speaker 1: Coach Philbin was standing behind us, and I was like, coach,
Speaker 1: you go ahead, and he's like, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I's like no, no, no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was like, you got more stuff to do than me, Coach, No,
Speaker 1: no man, show show. That's why I tried. And he
Speaker 1: was like he was hell bent on not letting me go.
Speaker 1: And finally I had to fake like I was going
Speaker 1: to talk to someone else to trick him into getting
Speaker 1: that'll change once they figure this out, but it's just
Speaker 1: refreshing to see them they don't know. Use the old regime,
Speaker 1: the coaches and players sat on this side of the
Speaker 1: lunch room and everybody else sat over here. It's just
Speaker 1: funny to see coach McCarthy PLoP down right in the
Speaker 1: middle of all the employees because he doesn't know, like
Speaker 1: we don't normally eat over here. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: It's awesome, and I hope and I hope we as
Speaker 1: employees allowed him to do that. I do too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because fans can run you off, and I hope.
Speaker 1: But you know what, these people that work up in here,
Speaker 1: they so injured themselves. These millennials are on their phone. Man,
Speaker 1: no one. I ain't gonna say that about them, because
Speaker 1: I see more conversations going on our people. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's refreshing kind of to see our guys
Speaker 1: and girls that work in this facility be at the
Speaker 1: table actually facing each other in talking. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this before we go. Um, is it Rob Davis? Is
Speaker 1: that his assistants He supposedly is his guy that came
Speaker 1: with us from from Green Bay. Like he's taking care
Speaker 1: of everything. He's his that's what you need him. That's
Speaker 1: the guy. He came through the first week that he
Speaker 1: was here, and I was gone part of that because
Speaker 1: I was in Mexico. But he came in and for
Speaker 1: during breakfast and would walk around the tables and introduce
Speaker 1: himself and shake people's hands and say hey, and like
Speaker 1: didn't know anything. You could have been the janitor. You
Speaker 1: could have been an executive. Whatever he was. He I've
Speaker 1: seen him still do it here um this week. So
Speaker 1: it's cool. Man. He until we started, until we start
Speaker 1: talking bad about him on the show. But he but
Speaker 1: he's out. I'm coach, I'm coach right hand man. So
Speaker 1: he told you. Yeah, he see, if you need some
Speaker 1: come talk to me and we'll see what we can
Speaker 1: do at least the doors open. Yeah, yep, I agree.
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm gonna hunt him down because he still
Speaker 1: ain't text me his phone numb and all that, because
Speaker 1: I will, let you know, if to talk about like
Speaker 1: a dog, Well, Kurt start having the guys back to
Speaker 1: I wish Jesse man. Wow, we'll get him back next week. Kyle,
Speaker 1: thanks for being on the show, man keeping us going.
Speaker 1: Thanks Kyle, all right, you're welcome. Thanks like to committed there. Yes,
Speaker 1: usually you don't. I don't have to respond. Wow, you
Speaker 1: know you know what. I'm gonna quit giving Caden props
Speaker 1: on this show. It's a new season. It's a new season,
Speaker 1: so he would Yeah, with the new Jesse will get
Speaker 1: you back next week. Nate, thanks for bringing man. It's
Speaker 1: good seeing you again. You look good, all right, Kyle,
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