WEBVTT - “How The Salad Gets Tossed” (w/ Matt + Bowen)

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<v Speaker 1>Look mare, oh, I see you my own and look

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<v Speaker 1>over there is that culture. Yes, goodness lost culture lost,

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<v Speaker 1>culture calling. They've had a full day, the two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know how hard we are at

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<v Speaker 1>work on the Culture Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>We are busting our ass holes holes. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>crater down there because of Culture Awards in the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Way you know I have been. So I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into it because because one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>talk about sex, I was gonna say, I've been so horny,

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<v Speaker 1>great have you? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually need to talk to my therapist about this

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<v Speaker 2>moment because I get horny through travel and then I

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<v Speaker 2>realize that the wires are all a little bit messed up,

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<v Speaker 2>so full disclosure. When I was in London, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, you know what, back in the day, I

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<v Speaker 2>would frequent a bath house every.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to the sweat box, which is and

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<v Speaker 2>then immediately once I got to the showers downstairs and

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<v Speaker 2>got recognized by some lovely DC gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't do it, And I was like gotta go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's tough. Joel. I think Joel Kim Booster had a

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<v Speaker 1>joke about being too famous for an orgy, right and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh Joel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Joel could now possibly relate to him his sixcabades,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I do final M.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it's it's a good thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it means careers are going great. You know what's

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<v Speaker 1>funny to me, like like when I physically get tired,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually am a lot hornier. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is. I remember back in the day when I

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<v Speaker 1>would like jam this this schedule with like morning activities.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just get home and I would be physically

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<v Speaker 1>very horny. But that's hard to reconcile with being actually

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<v Speaker 1>like totally sapped by the day. But because your body

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<v Speaker 1>is like ugh, I want to like engage in the act,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're like emotionally like, but I can't like call

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<v Speaker 1>someone over because that's a huge part of hooking up

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<v Speaker 1>is actually getting someone over is the movements. M h.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the literal movements of bodies. Good luck AI

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<v Speaker 2>with that. I say, yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing they can't take. Well, I guess they could.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. A fucking a robot to me will

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<v Speaker 2>never have the same just I'm just I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just taking it all the way to like the fullest

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<v Speaker 2>potential of this apparent technology, like a hole.

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<v Speaker 1>As a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like it's just something about it

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<v Speaker 2>being a human connection to me at least that at

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<v Speaker 2>least like I'm still there with sex where I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>it cannot be disconnected from even though I just said

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a bathhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>But even then, I like, it means, well, you hope

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<v Speaker 1>to make a friend. I helped to make a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's got to be a If there's a robot

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<v Speaker 2>in the bath house, I go, well, good luck, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna fritz out in about two seconds with this steam

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<v Speaker 2>in this place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this isn't gonna go well for you, sister, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when was Phoenix noted with Scarlet Johansson though

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<v Speaker 1>in the film her, the seminal film.

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<v Speaker 2>Her, but her voice was so good in that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying Chold's voice. Well, it's it was Scarlet's sexual tambour.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. I just want to say I love

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<v Speaker 2>Scarlet's vocal journey through her career. Like if you go

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<v Speaker 2>back and watch Ghost World end and lost some translation,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it is at a different octave. And I

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<v Speaker 2>do love that it's sort of developed this like depth

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<v Speaker 2>over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to have her on to ask about her

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<v Speaker 1>vocal journey. Yes, I think, and the title of that

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<v Speaker 1>for the Scarlet Johanson episode whenever it happens is already

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<v Speaker 1>vocal vocal journey. But I just want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>your point about the energy, like I am always I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say horny and theory. Then it's it gets.

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<v Speaker 2>To that point in the conversation where let's say you're

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<v Speaker 2>on a nap on a hookah app when discussion opens

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<v Speaker 2>up about movements about who should go to whom. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I'm like, oh, actually, to call back to

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<v Speaker 2>a cold School episode more on Cole in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>we we go emergency with my closest friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I just realized I'm having an emergency with my closest

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<v Speaker 1>friend friend. But that's a date. That was a date

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<v Speaker 1>that was different. That's a date thing. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a sex thing if it's you're sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's sometimes when like, yeah, it just all falls apart,

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<v Speaker 1>when even the second the reality is introduced and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is Ai taking over? Oh my, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you know so speak about Cole here's the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>cole Cola Skull is a Tony Award winner, a most

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<v Speaker 1>deserving award of all time. I mean, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what was so great about it was I obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>saw them hit the red carpet looking stunning, and just

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<v Speaker 1>there was something about seeing them on the carpet and

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to sit back and I really got

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<v Speaker 1>emotional because it actually reminded me about the entire reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I love coal in the first place, why they've

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<v Speaker 1>always been one of my heroes since when we started comedy,

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<v Speaker 1>was because they remind you that there aren't actually fucking rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh uh huh. It's like, there is no fucking

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<v Speaker 1>rule as to what you're supposed to wear, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to create, how you're supposed to do the decorum

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<v Speaker 1>of the award show. It actually reinspired me for the

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<v Speaker 1>Culture Awards. I was like, right, exactly if they ever

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<v Speaker 1>had a big fucking idea, they went for it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there are always checkpoints, like there are for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>about like ooh is this weird? Is this too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Are people going to get this? But screaming the word

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<v Speaker 1>yes to your big idea and what your instinct is

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<v Speaker 1>is what reminded me the other night, like why I

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<v Speaker 1>love coal and why coal is so special and important

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so fucking proud of them. It couldn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>a better person.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is amazing to think about Cole school

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<v Speaker 2>of beating George cluding it was.

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<v Speaker 1>A wonderful little little box moment at the award shows.

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<v Speaker 1>We love George. Love George. At the Oscars for Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oscars for Theater, that's the Tony Awards. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's real culture number fifty that the Oscars for Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Tony Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>But just to place last night's Tony's as another sort

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<v Speaker 2>of coordinate in the plane of award shows, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic program top to bottom, so fucking good, and

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<v Speaker 2>it flew by to me, I was like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>already eleven, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean someone said earlier like the Tony's are the

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<v Speaker 1>best award show and I was like, oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of it, like I'm glad they're excited. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was watching it and I was like, no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the best award show because it's literally built

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<v Speaker 1>around incredible live performance and people that are incredibly capable

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<v Speaker 1>on screen of executing this stuff reliably day in and

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<v Speaker 1>day out. So just to know that just around the

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<v Speaker 1>corner was another sleigh of a performers was, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And to have Cynthia threading the whole thing so poised, elegant, talented,

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<v Speaker 1>The standard of excellence is already so high for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she manages to rise above it and raise the

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<v Speaker 1>bar again and again and again. The humor felt like

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<v Speaker 1>totally in the pocket, just really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten out of ten I think for Cynthia, I think

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<v Speaker 2>for the whole show. God that in Memoriam was a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking punch to the gut. Yeah and everything Canthya getting

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<v Speaker 2>two applause breaks on her jokes while she was in

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<v Speaker 2>the mezzanine. I think both about Jonathan Graff spit like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that is that's delivery, capital D delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was excellent. And also the way to open

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<v Speaker 1>a show is always debated, like we're even debating it

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and you have to be so excellent to

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<v Speaker 1>open a show like that with an original song, because

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<v Speaker 1>you have to make sure that not only is the

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<v Speaker 1>person like incredibly good at you know, executing live television,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a song no one's heard, and to get

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<v Speaker 1>that across. Just the way that she communicates as a singer.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many things to say about how brilliant she

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<v Speaker 1>is as a vocalist. But what I was struck by

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<v Speaker 1>was she's communicating like a new story and a new

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<v Speaker 1>idea to an audience. And at the end, we were

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<v Speaker 1>watching in our friend's house, we were like applauding. We

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yes, yes, this song that we will remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It was truly truly fantastic. I'm just gonna say something,

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<v Speaker 2>even the purely stuff, I was like, I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>go off purely. If any company is gonna like own

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of real estate at the Tony's, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it's an iced tea company, I go, why not?

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<v Speaker 2>There really could be worse things, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and there are. There's so many worse, so long

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<v Speaker 1>than than than purelyfic tea having a lot of real

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<v Speaker 1>estate on the Tony Awards, for example, famine get so

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<v Speaker 1>much worse, so much worse, so much even with in

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<v Speaker 1>in the same conversation, you're joking, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You must be kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guess it's the only real note that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is just in terms of, like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something that they couldn't have possibly forecast in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>vibes and playing everybody off, I think could have just

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<v Speaker 2>been traditional. I appreciate what they were trying to do,

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<v Speaker 2>build it into like Cynthia's monologue, but I think just

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<v Speaker 2>a standard little orchestral even a track could have been

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<v Speaker 2>just fine. But I think it was just a mismanagement

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<v Speaker 2>of like what that would be like, and like the

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<v Speaker 2>vibe of the room, which you can never know until

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<v Speaker 2>the day of, especially at a.

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<v Speaker 1>Time like now where there is a lot of urgency

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what people might say in these speeches

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<v Speaker 1>and people might want to like leave and end on

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<v Speaker 1>something really poignant. To build into the show that you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to cut people off, even with a joke

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of not really the move, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it work in recent Awards shows, so I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>they tried it here. Finally, we have an end to

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<v Speaker 1>the debate of who's winning Best Actress in a Musical.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Nicole. I applaud this. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>both of their performances. I thought Nicole and Auder's performances

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<v Speaker 1>were the highlights of the evening, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>saw plain as day why they were the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>were being talked about the whole time. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved to have seen Boop a performance from Boop because

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<v Speaker 1>Booth is a lot of fun and Jasmine Amy Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>had she won, it would have been totally justified. The

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<v Speaker 1>girl is so fucking talented and so good in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nicholes, as if we never said goodbye, was truly

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<v Speaker 1>the performance of her career. I mean, and she's performed

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<v Speaker 1>live on television so many times in so many memorable ways,

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<v Speaker 1>in a variety of ways, but that you could tell

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<v Speaker 1>her entire career had led up to that moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy she did that song because she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do the song from this show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give it. And similarly to Audra, I had

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<v Speaker 1>been really wondering which number from Gypsy they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I was nervous that they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>do something like some people and missed the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>really show what McDonald is made of. And when they

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<v Speaker 1>pulled it up the curtain and it was Rose's turn,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, here we go. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she did not disappoint She gave all of herself

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<v Speaker 1>plus half. I mean it was sick. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean so many things about we're recording this on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>so many things about last night felt historic. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like, oh my god, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like different threads of history being braided together, where it

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<v Speaker 2>was like you have someone like Audre, you have someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Nicole who feels like a vet but kind of

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<v Speaker 2>is still just kind of making her mark on theater.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like even like Michael Arden winning, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your rewarding someone who has put years and

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<v Speaker 2>years and years into like executing his vision on Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>so many times. I don't know, just was a cool night.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so brilliant, Michael Arden. Like I saw maybe happy

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<v Speaker 1>ending and congrats to Darren Chris on his super well

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<v Speaker 1>deserved a war as well, Like the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>did Parade and maybe Happy Ending like two years in

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<v Speaker 1>a row is like, Okay, that guy can do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's while saying I would have been just as

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<v Speaker 1>excited for Jamie Lloyd to win for Sunset Bulevar at

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<v Speaker 1>a show that like blew me away and so happy

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<v Speaker 1>that one for best Revival. Yeah, just like so much

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<v Speaker 1>excellence going on. And I read a statistic that you

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<v Speaker 1>can never really take highest grossing to mean anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays because all the prices are so much higher, like

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of like to say that something was

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<v Speaker 1>the highest grossing year on record doesn't really mean anything

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because everything is so you know, prohibitively expensive. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also read that it was the best attended Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>season in a lot of times, so it means that

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<v Speaker 1>there were the most butts in seats, and it does

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a renewed energy around it. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a really good, solid few years for Broadway, which

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously a good thing. And it means that we're

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<v Speaker 1>coming to ruin it and we're coming to Broadway in it.

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<v Speaker 1>The second you think it's gonna be good, we're coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming, We're hitting the stage. You know what we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about last night? Did you remember this? After

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole's performance, I was like, people, forget the number of

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<v Speaker 1>times she has been iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to educate everybody on this because this is

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<v Speaker 2>something I was never familiar with, but I need to

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<v Speaker 2>know now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys remember that Nicole Scherzinger. So for years

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<v Speaker 1>she's had to be a chameleon because she started out

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<v Speaker 1>as a reality show contestant on Pop Star. She got

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<v Speaker 1>in the group Eden's Crush. Cr Oh like Yourself good?

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<v Speaker 1>That song they had like that one hit. There was

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<v Speaker 1>like a period of downtime she was in the Pussycat

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<v Speaker 1>Dolls and I remembered her from Eden's Crush. Even then,

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<v Speaker 1>she's obviously a huge success as the member of the

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<v Speaker 1>pussy Cat Dolls. Then that ends, she tries her solo career.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes ify in everywhere but the UK, where she

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<v Speaker 1>becomes like a thing. So she's a Judd on UK

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<v Speaker 1>x Factor in such a significant way. And Simon likes

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<v Speaker 1>her so much that they tried to do US X

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<v Speaker 1>Factor and she's a judge on that with Paul Abdul,

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<v Speaker 1>l A Reid and Simon Cowell and there's a moment

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<v Speaker 1>this is pre Brittany, right, this is pre Brittany. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the first season of US X Factor and

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<v Speaker 1>it was Nicole. Okay, it was Nicole Scherzinger was a

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<v Speaker 1>judge and she there was a thing at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of US X Factor where the bottom two vote getters.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't revealed who got the lowest voids votes, but

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<v Speaker 1>they would have to have like a sing off, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the judges would decide based on the sing off

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<v Speaker 1>who was going through to the round. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it's this. It was at the time. She was ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name was Rachel Crowe. Her name is Rachel Crowe,

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<v Speaker 1>and she sang I'd rather Go blind by Eda James,

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<v Speaker 1>a ten year old and she gave it. She sang

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<v Speaker 1>it like a fifty year old woman, and she gave

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<v Speaker 1>her entire life. And then the other guy sings whatever

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<v Speaker 1>his name I believe was Marcus, and then they go

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<v Speaker 1>to nikolsher and she's supposed to make this decision between

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them, this ten year old girl who

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<v Speaker 1>had just given everything to this song, and Nicole can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. She's like, I can't. I have to put

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<v Speaker 1>it to the public vote. And they put it to

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<v Speaker 1>the public vote, and the ten year old girl loses.

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<v Speaker 1>She her eyes widened and shot. She hits the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and she's screaming at her mother, you promised me. And

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<v Speaker 1>it cuts back to the judge's table and Nicole Cherzinger

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<v Speaker 1>is in hysteric sobbing in Paula Abdul's arms while Simon

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<v Speaker 1>Cowell looks on and he realizes that the US X

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<v Speaker 1>Factor has failed. They cut to the commercial and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Pepsi logo and that the show ends, and the

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<v Speaker 1>word Pepsi couldn't have been bigger. I said, this was

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<v Speaker 1>the most that was her last iconic moment. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>guess she, you know, did Mass Singer, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>did lots of things on the on the UK West End,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. But I'll never forget that moment in her

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<v Speaker 1>career because in last sitting there, I'm just thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>the totality of Nicole Scherzinger and it is so many things,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is a top five Nicole Scherzinger moment for me,

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<v Speaker 1>a person who has a top five Nicole Scherzinger moments list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now, Simon Cowell, they cut to him. He realized

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<v Speaker 2>he has a gaze that implies that he understands that

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<v Speaker 2>it's all.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they would come back the next season with

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany mm hmm, and fifth Harmony was created. I think

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<v Speaker 1>was that the last season of X Factor. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it only had two seasons, maybe it had three I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually unclear because Demi Levado was on that too, Yes, yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is what it was because it's the second season.

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<v Speaker 1>Aves Factor had Demi Levado and Britney Spears both and

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<v Speaker 1>La Radio. Yes, and that's when Fifth Harmony was created

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<v Speaker 1>because there was a moment where Demi Levado says, only

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<v Speaker 1>one of you was giving, and Chloe Kardashian, who was

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<v Speaker 1>added as a host, this is a fucking mad lib

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Demi Levado, Wait, who did you think was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was giving? And Demi Levado just sits

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<v Speaker 1>there and points to Kamila Cabello and says her wow

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<v Speaker 1>you wow wow, And the rest of the girls in

0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.359
<v Speaker 1>famth Harmony sort of look at Kamila, who's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, we haven't really responded to I have not really

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<v Speaker 2>looked into the details. But thoughts on the reunion besides

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<v Speaker 2>sans Kmilla, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Get why they're doing it, uh huh uh huh. The

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<v Speaker 1>normany of it all continues to completely blow my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know how that didn't work out as

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<v Speaker 1>a solo thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's it's interesting, huh. It's like, in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>what was her name Susan Crow, Rachel Crow, Rachel Crow.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all so many things. I think of Gypsy

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<v Speaker 2>when she screams at her mother you promised. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>also think of this, this idea that like this is why,

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<v Speaker 2>like Cole winning a Tony is so incredible. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing is nothing is promised, especially in show business. But

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<v Speaker 2>just in terms of the normal, I'm connecting all these

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<v Speaker 2>dots very haphazardly. But in terms of Normani and the

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 2>phith Armony reunion, it's like, like, why that did not

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<v Speaker 2>take off the way that we all hoped it would

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<v Speaker 2>and wanted it to in some ways? Is that Harber

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<v Speaker 2>can only get you so far, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is like, I think she did work

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<v Speaker 1>her fucking ass off. I just think she didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>her thing that succeeded right right, because what I had

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<v Speaker 1>heard was motivation popped off and everyone was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Normani is here, like it is about Normani now.

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<v Speaker 1>And she thought it was too pop, or she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was R and B enough, It wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>type of artist that she wanted to be. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even like the video, you know what I mean? All

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<v Speaker 1>the really, you know. Successful elements of that were her

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<v Speaker 1>being like, well, I don't want to be well known

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<v Speaker 1>for these things, Like I don't like what this is,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess you kind of have to respect, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's like, look, I understand that this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the thing, but I yeah, Like I was just

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most random pull ever and it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the gayest transitions of all time. I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with Brenda song Oh Love, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>saying years ago, like, apparently she booked like the lead

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<v Speaker 1>of this huge film franchise, but at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>got offered the like two scene role she had in

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Social Network, and she was like, I want to work

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<v Speaker 1>with David Fincher even though this is a small part.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking the lead of this franchise. That I

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<v Speaker 1>guess her agents had busted their ass to get her,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as a result of her making that decision,

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<v Speaker 1>they dropped her. But now she's a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Social Network, which is one of the most relevant films

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<v Speaker 1>in pop culture at that time, and you know, probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple decades, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So who's to say she didn't make the best decision holistically. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>she made the decision that she was going to stand

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<v Speaker 1>by so with the normany of it all, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she had a huge hit and something that

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<v Speaker 1>looked to everyone else like it made sense. But if

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it didn't make sense to her, then maybe that's the question.

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the answer to the question of like what happened there.

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just she didn't want to be that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are these are these are vital questions for

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<v Speaker 2>anyone to ask themselves, including us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like do we I mean yeah, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it can actually maybe I'll speak to something. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because did you see last week. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if I should be going here, but I'm

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna go here. Go Like last week Andy had on

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<v Speaker 1>Hoda watch and and he was he threw your name

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>out there. He threw my name out there to take

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<v Speaker 1>over for Jenna, I mean, not for Jenna, to take

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<v Speaker 1>over with Jenna, and Hoda was like, yeah, Matt Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>is great, And all of a sudden, I was I

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 1>was sitting there watching it and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they're talking about me to this job.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that it was like it was really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I was like, oh, I thought everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>just being nice by saying, oh, you should do this permanently.

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>You should do because because they say that on like

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to like the Today Show Instagram, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like every time there's a guest job, there's a there's

0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a guest it's like they should be permanent, they should

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<v Speaker 1>be permanent. So much I thought that was just like

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a silly thing that people were saying to be nice

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to me, and I did think it went well. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when they were talking about it up there, I

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, that's so interesting to have people talk

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 1>about something that you should be doing or you're right for,

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.199
<v Speaker 1>or like you know that no one's even asked me

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<v Speaker 1>if I would want to do it totally.

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<v Speaker 2>On the one hand, it's like a compliment. On the

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.159
<v Speaker 2>other hand, it is this like total compliment. But on

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, it's this kind of like quote unquote

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 2>fan casting that like could make you feel a certain way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, And it's like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>like not up to it's not in your control or

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not even up to you, like what the outcome

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<v Speaker 2>is or like what the conversation, what the tone of

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation is does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, it's I think you probably experienced well, I

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>know you experience it. We do not have to get

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<v Speaker 1>into it, and we won't. But I feel like SNL

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<v Speaker 1>is also one of the only jobs in entertainment where

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people can weigh in about, like who's staying,

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>who's going, who's getting hired, who's getting fired, why are

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they leaving? And it's really interesting. I think for that

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<v Speaker 1>to be an element of like what you do as

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<v Speaker 1>a job. You know what I'm saying, it's kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'm not saying it's good or bad. And I've

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 1>participated in speculation like that obviously, Like we have this podcast,

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Then suddenly when it's something

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.679
<v Speaker 1>that's knocking on your door, you're like, oh, wow, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just interesting, it's a new feeling. Yes, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel in that feeling? Wow? Did you see that

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>text we just got? Yeah, we gotta be a fun text.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone just confirmed for the Cultural Awards and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun. Someone we don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>that well, I know, but I'm excited. There's lots of

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 1>exciting things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>We are really, really, really committed to making this a

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<v Speaker 2>fun show, and the artist pre sale went out very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>We're sorry if it was frustrating for anybody in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of procuring them. But the sort of end goal of

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<v Speaker 2>all this is that this can be shared with everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>We've said this in the past, but I think it

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<v Speaker 2>bears repeating that it's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's gonna be pleased. It's gonna be the most fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for selling that the fuck out yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you guys do you guys are the best. It'll

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>be the best one yet for sure. You know what.

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I finally got to watch all of which we were in,

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't get to actually consume as a whole

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was overcom overcomments. Have you watched I am up to

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>our episode? Yeah, it's funny because the one thing I

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>had been hearing was what year is it? What year

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is it? Can I say one of my favorite things

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>about the show is that we don't know what year

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it is. I think it's like one of the most

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>fun things about it is like her singing my chemical romance.

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's I like that, it's in that way it's

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 2>this meta comment on like this could be any year,

0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>What, because it can. And I feel like, and I'll

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>just openly and honestly about this, because there were some

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>people I was talking to that were like, oh, he's

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it's about him coming out of the closet, Like how

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>is that gonna play in twenty twenty five? People forget that?

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's resonating so much with so many people because yeah,

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe you the Royal, you feel like you're beyond that

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>conversation about like being accepted and you know it being

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a normal thing to be gay, but not everyone is. No,

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like our culture like really warp speed

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like traveled through you know what it means too, like

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the love simon y type of gay thing. Right, It's

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like and I remember the discourse at the time was like, oh,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>this is an incredibly like like white gay experience. He

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>had like incredibly accepting parents, et cetera. Like it didn't

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>seem like it was that hard for him and et cetera.

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.479
<v Speaker 1>But I remember at the time being like, right, but

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 1>you do need something like this in order to broach

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the subject on like a commercial way. And all these

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>years have gone by and you see like this I

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 1>worry about, Like, you know, this kid, he's in a

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>very attractive guy, he's just obviously smart. He goes to Georgetown,

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>he still has an incredibly difficult time coming out, and yeah,

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't know when it takes place. But I think

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>that that's all outside of the fact, which is that

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>people want to see stories, whether they're gay and it's

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>coming out or whatever about I'm not sure if I'm

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.120
<v Speaker 1>my true self, if people are gonna accept me, and

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>that does it. It's less about like it being a

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>queer thing or whatever, because it's the question central question

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of the show is are people gonna love me if

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I really show them who I am? Yeah?

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>And that is universal and the reason why, I mean, look,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 2>we've done a lot of press about our products where

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 2>we're like, oh, we're just so refreshed that we're involved

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 2>in something that is not like a coming out story,

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Like there are other queer stories to be told, but

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>there's the appeal of a coming out story is always

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 2>that it is legibly about an completely internal sort of

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>like journey.

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is what makes over Compensating a compelling show.

0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, like you don't have to see this

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 2>guy be out of the closet just yet there are

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>in fact, like the the Owen, Theey like character, Thel

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 2>character is like the perfect sort of like foiled to

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 2>that where it's like where it does make it somewhat

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>relevant to now, where it's like in a world that

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>seems like it is people have already figured themselves out

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 2>ahead of you, Like, how does that make you feel?

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel this.

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Way still as a queer person. I'm like, yeah, wow,

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm so stunted in all these different ways. I feel

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>completely insecure about all these things, Like that is when

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I've been out of the closet for half my life.

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Now it's like this is an incredibly universal thing. And

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 2>that is probably what they discussed when they were trying

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 2>to figure out the story of the series.

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I have made it to the end, and

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say spoiler alert, like because maybe not

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>everyone's at the end. But in the final episode of

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the show, like Benito goes over to Owen, who like Benito,

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll say something about both their performances in a second

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>after I get through this, which I'm so blown away

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>by everybody in the show. But Benito goes up to Owen,

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>after he's you know, kind of denied that they're friends

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>in front of some straight guys. Some straight guys see

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Benito talking to Owen and they go, oh, are you

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>guys friends? And Benito says, no, we're not friends, like

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>right in front of him and disregards him, and Owen

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just really comfortably and just casually just like denies Benito

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>when he tries to, like, you know, pick up like

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:32.239
<v Speaker 1>they've you know, nothing has happened, et cetera. And you know,

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of just this moment where this out gay

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>kid who really knows himself is able to just like

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of be the person who makes Benito like say,

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I need to change what's going on. I just want

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a word salad here, But what I'm

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>remembering is when I went to college and I was

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>that kid. The thing that hurt me the most was

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>when the out gay kids were looking at me like

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>we see you and it's pathetic. Oh you know what

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean. And that hurt more than any straight guy

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>testing me or you know, pushing my buttons because they

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>felt like they knew something about me, or any of

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriends being a little too knowing, you know, Like

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>what really got to me was when an out gay

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>person who felt realized looked at me and was like no,

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and then the rejection coming from them, Yeah, was like

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>the most painful thing. And I do think that is

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the point obviously in the series, where it's not long

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>after that that things change.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, that rejection from an out queer person, let's say,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>just pushes you a little bit further into the closet

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, whereas like you talking to a girlfriend

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>who might know something, or you kind of like on

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 2>a know, douking it out mentally with like a straight

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 2>guy who's trying to like uncover something that's you, like

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 2>holding the line that's you, like holding the line of

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like who you are, Like I get to control how

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>much I reveal. But then someone judging you or someone

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>thinking that you are being pathetic in the way that

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to like negotiate this is I think only

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of alienates you. Yeah, and Ali, it's Binito's character.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Probably I have not gotten to that episode yet.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just like there. I remember, like I was watching

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it in the beginning and I was like, oh, is

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he going to stay closeted? Like the whole season, and

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I knew we were in episode six where he was

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>still dealing with that, and he was kind of seeing

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>our characters in like secret because it was like his

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>first grinder hookup. But I mean my truth was and

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I think your truth was, and I can speak for

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>both of us here as we remained in the closet

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the entirety of our freshman year. Mm hmm. Yeah. I

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>was obviously a little bit more complicated for you because

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you had come out trior and it was whatever. But

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember the thing that I can and if this

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>is like a truthful depiction of what someone like this

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>as freshman year is like, is yeah, I mean it

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>might not have been and what everyone would have wanted,

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>but I stayed in that fucking closet and talked in

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a voice like the one he's using in that show

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>for the entirety of freshman Year, to the point where

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it was physically painful, and the fact that he could

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>hold that much discomfort in his body and in his

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>voice and in his performance, like, I don't know, my

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>hat is off to him because it's not a fun

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>place to live, and it's not where he naturally lives.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Now knowing him.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Totally I mean, but he I saw him over the weekend,

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, God, there have been so

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>many moments where I've like gone back fifteen seconds or

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>just paused on frames, like he's a really gifted actor,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>just an incredible actor, and so so amazing what he's done,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>just as this creator and the star. We're just so happy.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>We're just so happy for him. It's just really nice

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to see like the community sort of rallying around this too.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know what I was thinking, because because

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I also was pulling that, I was like, Wow, it

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>seems like a lot of the queer community, a lot

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of gay guys are like out here saying like I

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>watched this show, I loved this show. I felt good

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>watching the show. I felt seen watching the show in

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a way that made me feel really happy and actually

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>reminded me of the reception that we got from Fire Island.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I felt like gay guys were not being shy

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>about saying that they loved it and that they watched

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it and that they were supporting it. And I just

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like sometimes it can feel, you know, from project

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to project that the narrative changes a little bit and

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes can air on this side of oh, gay guys

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>don't support each other, or like, you know, gay guys

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>are the cruelest to each other in media, and I

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>do think in some regard that is true. Like certainly,

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 1>if I ever, you know, want to self immolate and

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to feel bad about myself, I'll go on.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>And I know for a fact that the nasty things

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that are being said about like us or me or

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>our projects are from gay guys. But I really do

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>just want to shout out the fact that like, lots

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of gay guys support queer projects, like lots of hard

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>people are out here doing that, and I don't want

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it to get lost in the discussion of like, oh,

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, gay guys can't support other gay guys uns

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>they're drag queens or porn stars. Like I don't want

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it to get lost that that's not really true. And

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I really, like I feel like if I were Benito,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>or if I'm myself, or if I'm anyone out here

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>with a queer project, like I wouldn't want to toss

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like queer people like gay men under the bus that

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>are supporting that when I do know for a fact

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that that happens.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know I was going to generalize

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>and say, like a lot of that animis comes from

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>this insecurity or something or something internalized whatever, But I

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 2>also don't want to like, sometimes the gay guys are

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>cruel and critical for good reason, for good reasons of

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe obviously those are those are some cases, But you're right,

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. I mean, I felt it from

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of cis gay guys shout out like I

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I just couldn't live without.

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I went to the Betty Who concert and it

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>was all all the gay men and we both played

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Webster Hall, and I was just thinking about when the

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>last time I was at Webster Hall, which was my show,

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>my Christmas show, and it was all it was all katies,

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>it was all women, and I was like, it's so

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>funny because like I'm here at this Betty Who show

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's wall to wall gay guys and tank tops,

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>being like it's pride and we're at the Betty Who

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>show and we know the choreo and we're obsessed and

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>by the way, shout out to Betty Who gets better

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and fucking better, Betty Who, You're incredible. And I was

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a gay guy at your show and I was happy

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to be, but then I was just thinking. I was like,

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what it would feel like for this many

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>gay guys and gay guys to show up for me.

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I thought to myself, you know what, though

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they did. They did. Maybe they weren't at the front,

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>but there were tons of gay guys at my show.

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to keep telling myself story that

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like gay guys don't support other gay guys, because it's

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>not true.

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>No, they're definitely where. I opened grinder that night and

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, whoa, the is all within two hundred feet.

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>You open grinder at my show? I got to delete it.

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm on it too much.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's like people, yeah, and seventy five percent of

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.760
<v Speaker 2>my messages this is just a this is not a complaint.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 2>It's just like my landscape. It's just seventy five percent

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of people being like.

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Is this real? Oh my god, you're brave.

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I'm a horny in theory at all

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>times gay guy.

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That is. I think something that I could I could

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>ask people to strike from their personal thing is like,

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is this really you? About the people?

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>What I say is I'd be the most random. Actually,

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd be the most random gay person of note of

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>recognition to Catfish Eyes.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>That I kind of feel like that too. It's like,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you just pick Matt Boehmer.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>At summer Summer? Is we've really flipped you and I

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.479
<v Speaker 2>you're not feeling good. I am not feeling good about

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>this summer and that's okay, and it will all blow over.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I am like in the gallows. It's something's going on,

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>and I got to talk to my therapist about it.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I am depressed because all I want to

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 2>do is when is just play video games when I

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 2>get up. Thanks to my switch too from NINTENTO, thank

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you for betting my depression.

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo. That's just like a way that you like to

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>spend your time. So you you waking up and like

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>wanting to do that is just like I think what

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you're craving is the time to do that. But like

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's obviously been it's been cuckoo crazy schedule time.

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I I was just kind of going

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>through it bullet point by bullet point with you last night,

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>and I had not actually said the words out loud

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 2>or just like gone through it beat by beat until then,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and it was like, woa, the last seven months have been, yeah,

0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>as eroding as they have been, maybe f like I

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>might be in an even This is not to scare anybody,

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>but like I think I am, I'm just managing it

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 2>better for sure. This is like I'm like, oh god,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 2>this is just I'm reminded of that place that I

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>was at when I needed to take a break from

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the podcast. And I'm not saying that's what's going to happen,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, oh, yeah, ye, I really need to

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 2>just keep crawling and it will be okay because that

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>got better and this will get better. And I'm just

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>being real with my sister and my wonderful, wonderful, wonderful

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 2>community of readers, Katie's publicis and finalists and Kyle's that Yeah,

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm, I'm I'm crisped up. But it's okay. The

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>meat will will tender rize.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Soon, I know. And I want you to know that

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I know you know this, You've noticed, you've clocked it. Well,

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not even about me noticing, It's just about you

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>knowing that I'm here for you and anything. And then

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>if all I ask is that you just don't add

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>anything just don't add anything, and that is in your control.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>That you everyone's Becka to Beca had a fun weekend,

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>do you think, Becka, do you think we would be

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>allowed to go to the Puerto Rican Pride festivities next year? Yes?

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, please? It looks so fun.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Is a of a huge crew of people.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I would love to go, and then we'll show up

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be like, what's their name?

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 3>It was a myriad of people across the diaspora, not

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>to as let me say that friends that were just

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 3>like this is so dope and I want to be involved.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I will say the Manhattan Parade is giving corporate stakeholders.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like all, because that is the true party.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Like if you want to go on the island, you

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 3>go to Bushwick.

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 3>We came about to Marie Hernana's park. You see all

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.280
<v Speaker 3>the stars souped up. Everyone's playing bad Bunny at different locations.

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, oh no Bunny going on at once. I

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>don't just mean what I fantasize about erectly.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean there were rumors who's going to show up?

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>He didn't.

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 3>It's fine, but.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>He now occupies There's like an iconic, you know on Houston. Uh,

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>massive board, like whoever's the one at the time? And

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>right now there there is a huge bad bunny.

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.959
<v Speaker 3>Has one a picture for pinching it.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Anna you filthy dog. Now that's too much.

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We don't like that filthy humor. Not on Lost Colt,

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>not on Coach, not on Lost Coach. Do you think

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that the summer will be improved? We love you, Becca,

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>give it for back, everybody, godsend. Do you think the

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>summer will be improved by having a legitimate contender for

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Song of the Summer with man Child by Brienna Carpenter,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Because not a single one of these other songs were

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>legitimate contenders until now. No, You're right.

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I am so thrilled that Sabrina is already kind of

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 2>locking in as an artist for as long as it

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>makes her happy and fulfilled. Is one of those artists

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>who is just not going to really ever take any

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>big break until she's ready to do that. I love

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>that she's one of those girls who's like, I'm just

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep releasing tracks year round.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>She's ready for it. I feel like the thing that

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 1>sets Sabrina apart from everyone is she actually had years

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to like train for this show. Oh yeah, like Mama

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>is many albums deep, she now knows exactly who she

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>is because she had the time to develop. Like she

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bailed on by the industry. She wasn't like embraced

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>by the industry, but no one. It seems like it

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 1>was like the slowest climb until it just snapped in

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and now she is like the bazooka with these hit songs.

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the one thing couple of my friends

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>were saying was it feels like not a lot of

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a departure. But my thing is like, if you're locked

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and loaded with a bop, just release the bop, you

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I would say, it's like, to me, it's giving fifteen minutes.

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 2>But with that eighties synth opening, Yeah, very good luck, babe.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I love that blend of like she's she's going

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>out on I think banjo lex.

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Love.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>It fades out on banjo lex, but then it starts

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>with like these like that that that eighties kind of thing,

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh love, yeah, that you synthesized something

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of newish for us.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love her as like a low

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>key country artist, like I love her like super like

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>nine to five aesthetic that she's giving. It felt like

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>nine to five on the road. It's felt like nine

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to five meets like Thelma and the Wheeze, like woman

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:55.399
<v Speaker 1>of the eighties early nineties thing. I love the video.

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite music videos I've seen in

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a very long time. Just like the amount of setups.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I was watching it wondering. I was like, I wonder

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>if this was storyboarded or they just like set up

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a million locations and then got everything. Either way, it

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is so much fun to watch. It's one that you

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>could watch again and again and again and again and

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>again and again. She's just fucking got it. Yeah, Star,

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Full Star, We're obsessed and Jack anton Off, Amy Allen

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and Sabrina Carpenter. That's a trio that should just keep rocking,

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>keep sticking together. Amy. Yeah, she's everything. Gray Grammy winner, right,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 1>she won the Grammy. Yeah, songwriter up the Yeah, Yep.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>She might be an interesting person to have on the

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast because like, that's Amy. That's truly like nuts and bolts.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>How this how the oh sausage gets made? I almost

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.479
<v Speaker 1>said how the salad gets tossed? Yeah? Can I say

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely how the sausage gets made. It's not how

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the salad gets tost If she's got insights on how

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the salad gets tossed, I would love to hear that

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:58.280
<v Speaker 1>as well. I don't need any tips, just kidding, ill, God,

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I hate myself myself. I did get a d M

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>from a guy. No, maybe it was grinder message, and

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>this is how you know it was getting too crazy

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 1>on that was like, I bet you're incredible at eating

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>ass and I was like, I gotta put the phone away.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to put the phone away. No.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 2>One guy recently was like whatever sent me in nudo

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 2>was like great, and then he goes, yeah, you like

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 2>that bagot and I was like, okay, well now I

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>do have to I wish I was the kind of

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>person who were who was turned on by like full

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I fully full sub. I don't think I'm full sub.

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't like being called slurs.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't like being called slurs or being told

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what kind of physical pain I'm in. Someone said to

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>me recently, I can't wait to choke you and watch

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>your beautiful eyes fill with tears. And I was like, well,

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you for elements of that sense, you know, what

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, it's great that you want to fuck

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>me a lot. I'm so happy that you think my

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 1>eyes are beautiful. I liked when you call the beautiy. Yeah,

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.879
<v Speaker 1>thanks for saying I'm beautiful. But then when I thought

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>about choking so much, well, first of all, I'm on

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the record that I don't think so you choking, it's

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>just for me, it's and then so I was like,

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>but don't you love poppers. I was like, yeah, I

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like to pop up. And then they were like, well,

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of the same. No, I would

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of same like ideas like cutting off circulation, And

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know about that.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that this is like a this is danger,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm putting my hand around my throat, this is

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>like this is a little whatever. Like our brains are

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 2>evolved a certain way to to to register that as

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like a fear.

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's giving. Oh no, you know what I mean.

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's I just I always need to be able

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to breathe. That's a big rule for me. Yeah, that

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.479
<v Speaker 1>you should be able to breathe, need to breathe, need

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to breathe at least have the opportunity.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to agree.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Write that down right later. Oh, write that sound for later.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Lust Cult.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Finally, fucks what we could have done on an overcompensating.

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Y'all, here's the team? Should we say that? We got

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the original script and we were like, can we pair

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>this back in a little bit?

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 2>And the original script had us making out and we

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 2>were like, maybe that's a bridge too far, both like

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just like for us as friends and

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 2>for just I think the scene itself it would have

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 2>been a gag.

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>It made me nervous. I was like, I feel like,

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>if we ever kissed in film and media, it has

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to be on our terms. It can't begin someone else's project,

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 1>can I say?

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>In hindsight, and not just because the show is a

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 2>huge success, that would have been That would have been

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 2>a fine place to be, like, let's just go for it,

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>You know what I wish I had done. I wish

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I had had libbed one thing, which is the last

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>thing while I'm while I'm spoiler alert, jacking off on

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the jump other road. Yeah, yeah, I wish I had

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>said I am so in love with you. I love that.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I would have said something along the line's like you're

0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>my husband. That was so crazy girl. Wait you know

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>what Benny said to me.

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 2>He was like and I was like, shut the fuck up,

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 2>because he was being sweet, but it was like a

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>compliment that didn't sound like a compliment until later he

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, Bowen, like, I just have

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>to tell you like you like in the script it

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 2>was originally get out of our house, and you added

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to get out of our townhouse.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that is so lateral. Shut the fuck up, Like

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what are you saying? No, people are obsessed with that line.

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But then later on I'm like, oh, I guess that

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>is like the slightest that is the serrated edge that

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 2>that is. That is the bit of as Emily Oberman

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 2>describes it at Pentagram, the bit of wit, the thing

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>that is nicely off. It's like, oh, okay, get out

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 2>of our townhouse just hits a little bit different than

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 2>get out of our house.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>This is so funny. We're complimenting our own performances. But no, no,

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>but by the way, but when I got there in

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the show, and I of course had seen this scene

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>isolated because they had sent it over, and they were like,

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we love it. We're so excited. So

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I watched it. I was like, oh my god, yeah,

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 1>fun presented in the show. I was like, really works

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:04.919
<v Speaker 1>because it is a panicky situation for him, like when

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you're following him the whole time, and then you find

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>us with our two creatures, and the way that it

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>starts so kind of like you know, you think he

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>might be understood, and then you come in and it's

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.919
<v Speaker 1>a whole other fucking thing. It really worked. Yeah, And

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that subtly. I am so the bottom and

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you are so the top. Like you totally are the top.

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Like even when you walk in and you go, oh

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like that, you said it like a top, like you

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>did the whole thing like the top, And I did

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing like a bottom one hundred percent. Because

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you are the top in that relationship. Davis is the top.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you're the top in our relationship. To be

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, baby, non sexual the top.

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Ye, No, I think you talk a lot with us.

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 2>That's not true. I'm quiet as a mouse girl.

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not topping you in life. I'm not. I'm I'm

0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 1>out here. I feel the bottom. I feel you're at

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the bottom with us.

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I've celebrated that I've forgot on record saying whatever.

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I just I like that about us. How are you

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>denoting bottom? Well, gosh, this is something I have to

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>examine too.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm denoting bottom as uh as sub because of

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 2>that directionality.

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't find you to be sub okay, socially friendship

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>wise really no. But I also don't think you're dominant.

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I just think you're the top.

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 2>God, can I just say God, this is gonna sound

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 2>so annoying, but with like the night that I had off,

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm gonna go and meet this guy

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 2>for drinks. Sure barely got a word of note adries.

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is my biggest pet peel. And you know,

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to Lily Glad Lily about this during press.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, we did this like them speed dating thing.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they used this part, but they're But

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>one of the questions was what's your biggest pet peeve dating?

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think mine is just just not

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>saying a peep. I've gotten so many dates lately where

0:47:57.080 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I just don't say a peep. I don't get asked anything. Yeah,

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and then Lily was like, that's probably because they it's

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 2>people who know it to you, and also they are

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 2>nervous and all these things. I'm like, but like, at

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, no matter what the dynamic is,

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 2>if it's a date, it's like, it should be equitable.

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It should be an equitable conversation. That's that's that's my

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>radical opinion. Am I am I wrong? No, you're one

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent right.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I do think Lily is probably right, like

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, and that that people obviously come with

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a with an idea of recognition for you, and they're

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:33.720
<v Speaker 1>therefore baggage about the situation, and so they're probably coming

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to the table thinking, well, I'm going to show that

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm valuable as well by sharing a lot. Meanwhile, it's like,

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>what you really want to do is be actually understood

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>or just on a date. Yeah, just on it, Just

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>be on a date.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 2>You know what I know about you, even though I

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>have not witnessed it firsthand. I bet you're a great

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>fucking date. And I'm going to say I'm a great

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking date. I bet you are. One hundred I try,

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I try. I try to make it so easy for

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>the other person. Hence me like nodding along, listening. I'm

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 2>with them every every step of the way as they

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 2>unfurther life towards like towards me, and I retain all

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 2>that information, I really do, so that the next time,

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.760
<v Speaker 2>if there's the next time, I like follow up, I.

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Just I wish I could be afforded that. Yeah, I

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's well. And now I think, in stating it

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>out loud, this is one way to do that. Sure,

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>hopefully people someone out there takes the note. I guess

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering now to myself because I always feel like

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're when we're talking about dating, it's so easy

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to be like other people be like or like I

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>hate my totally, and I'm trying to ask myself the

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>question of, like, if I could take accountability, what could

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I do better with dating? I know I know already

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>what mine is, what's yours.

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm so bad at the texting back, and that

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 2>is just across the border problem I have. That's just

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>across the board, something that I have with you with

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>no our friends, like like it's like it's it's just

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 2>something that infects every part of my life.

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel left on red by you ever, it's

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's great to think that I could get even swifter

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>response you can leverage. I think my thing is I

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>just bring other experiences into That's okay, but it's so

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 1>hard not to. Yeah, I sometimes have to extra remind

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>myself that, you know, other people I've been, I've dated

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>are not in the room with us when I'm on

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a new one, and like, I don't like like I'm

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to a new person, not someone I can project

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 1>something on from all older situations. But that's my thing.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And also just knowing what I want to begin with totally,

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>because I think we could. I could personally save a

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of people a lot of time if I were

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, maybe this is not what you want. Yeah,

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>because for me, it's no longer the thing of like

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm performing on a date or I

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 1>feel the need to stunt on a date, or like

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>win a date, like that's something I'm I'm I'm over.

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>It's other things now, it's like why am I here

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to begin with? And while I'm here, what am I

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>thinking about? And what am I anticipating?

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that gets in the way that that that like

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 2>that like colors the rest of it within the date.

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>It's unfair to the other person and myself. Yeah, you

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I've had a dating trauma and

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, no matter how hard I try. And

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's like it's it's it's much of

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a problem as it's been. I'm just saying that is

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>my challenge now is like this person isn't gonna hurt

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you necessarily, Like if you can actually trust what this

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.800
<v Speaker 1>person says, you know what I mean. Like, it's especially

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>as you get into your mid thirties, it's it kind

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>of feels like less people are likely to bullshit, so

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>give them the opportunity to be gene. Just because you

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>had one bad experience doesn't mean they're all going to

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>be like that.

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I will say, what was done to you is so unusual.

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Your dating trauma as it was inflicted upon you was

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 2>of such a durrain.

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Nature.

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I was just saying, I was gonna say nature it was.

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 2>It was so extreme and like something that I would

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 2>not wish upon my worst enemy.

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But this is where the accountability comes in totally.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>But I just want to I just want to put

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 2>that out there and like it just I feel for

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 2>you constantly in this regard because it's like God, it

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 2>could not have happened to like a more undeserving person

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 2>whatever deserving means. But you know what I mean, it's

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 2>like God, like you, you can't fucking like, why would

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you do that?

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it to Matt, don't do it to anyone? Okay,

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 1>what were you saying? Accountability? I think the accountability part

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is is also being like, Okay, a shitty thing happened

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 1>to you in your life. Forget about dating whatever, it's

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like a relationship, whatever it is, Like where's the accountability

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Because at a certain point you do have to stop

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>saying like, well it's because this person was this or

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>wrong place, wrong time, or whatever. Like I've been able

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to make so many positive changes just about like managing

0:52:56.360 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 1>my energy and knowing about people's capabilities through certain situations,

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and also it has made a lot of other things

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.879
<v Speaker 1>in my life make sense, Like I will never say

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to anyone now like you have to get over it. It's

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 1>been a long time, you know what I mean, or

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what it's like. I'm grateful for the ups

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and downs of dating in general, because they fill out

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a landscape of what that experience is really like In

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>totality so that you can be more sensitive and more

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 1>generous and more understanding and empathetic with people. That they

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 1>do say that about like heartbreak and about grief is

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 1>it is miserable to go through. But then ultimately that

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 1>is what makes you a three sixty full human. That's

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>what colors in the coloring book that of your emotional

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.919
<v Speaker 1>life are the hard things. It's just fucking tough while

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you're going through them. And I do think like accountability

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>is important. Sure, you can give as much as you

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 1>can get, and like there's one thing being like, oh,

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kick this around with my girlfriends and my

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>sisters and my best friends about like how shitty the

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>situation was. But then there's another element of it, which

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 1>is like, and I could do better too, of course.

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that you even have that mechanism to

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>be like, let me examine myself is something that the

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 2>vast majority of people don't have yet because we're just

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 2>people in our thirties dating I think for the most part,

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 2>other people in our thirties and we're all figuring this

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 2>out together. That's the thing about dating within your age.

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Everyone on some levels developmentally on the same track. But

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 2>also there is something appealing about dating for me older,

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>but then that becomes but then you have to like

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 2>parse out, well is that a flag of any color

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 2>for them? You know, It's like there's just so many

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 2>different things that you have.

0:54:50.920 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 1>To think about. Study is like positive, we both have

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.839
<v Speaker 1>to date older. She's positive. She says it all the time.

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, you both need someone who's going to

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.319
<v Speaker 1>take control in her like way of saying that, and

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, see, I wonder though, I wonder, all right,

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>dating older quote unquote is different saying that at thirty five,

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.399
<v Speaker 1>saying that at twenty five, You know what I mean?

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Like when I was twenty five, dating older like a

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.919
<v Speaker 1>guy in his thirties. Now dating older at thirty five

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>is like, I don't know what guy in his fifties,

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that's that's someone that's looking for something

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>totally different. Probably, It's like it's so it's I certainly

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>watch a lot of Daddy Ploorn and I'll tell you that,

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I tell you that.

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying, uh, in terms of taking control, I

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know about that either. All I want this is

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:47.680
<v Speaker 2>all I want. I want someone to know what restaurants

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 2>to go to. Mm hmm, that's all I actually want.

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And when you say that, do you mean like you

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 1>want someone that's going to take care of the decisions

0:55:56.760 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of the law of the life. Yeah. Yeah, I made

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a reservation for us here. Meet me here. The cleaning

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>person is coming on Thursday. Like not a nurser of me,

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>but just someone someone that has that on their mind,

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>take care of you.

0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I have my like dashboard of life all kind of

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 2>laid out the way that I wanted to accept in

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 2>some few deficiencies, and it would be so nice. And

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>this is not a requirement obviously, and we're just talking,

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 2>we're just shooting from the hep here. But it's like,

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.760
<v Speaker 2>would be so cool if like there was a puzzle

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>piece like like completing that, you know.

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just so funny.

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so fun to fantasize about these things.

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I know, because and I'll tell you what, it's a

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 1>lot more fun then going on the actual dates talking

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>about how many and shit totally because like again, like

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like we're talking about earlier about like you know,

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.799
<v Speaker 1>gay guys not supporting other gay guys. It's like, yeah,

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>but wouldn't it be fun to think about one that

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 1>does you know what I mean, and they do exist.

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Not to say that every time a song like Manchild

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>by Sabrina Carpenter comes out that I'm not absolutely down

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to ride load the shotgun, let's go into town, you

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like I am down to talk

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 1>about how many and shit like it went in little

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>tiny fun flairs. But in terms of a life ideology,

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I had to, and you know, I think we all

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 1>have to at a certain point, like clock the stories

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that we've been telling ourselves and being like, maybe I'm

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>not helping myself by consistently telling myself the same story.

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Because not everyone is the person that love bombed you.

0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Not everyone is the person that cheated on you. Not

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone is the person that you know stole your money.

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't know why that was the third thing?

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Have you been pilfered by a man? No body know

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>people that have yikes. Someone that we know was dating

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>someone it was found out was only dating them so

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that they could finance projects of theirs, and then they bailed.

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Like people are sick.

0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's one fucking person out there who has never

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>dated me, but he owes me money. You got to

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>tell me after I gotta tell you, no, I follow

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it up after years and you know who it is.

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I do know who it is? And can I

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>tear something? That's crazy?

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I emailed again. I was like, Hey, where's my money?

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 2>And if I see him out in these streets.

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Say it, say it. It's on site site. Man, why

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 1>are you not paying me four hundred dollars?

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not confrontational at all in moments like this,

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I have no problem bring it up. And this person's

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 2>avoided me out in the public, and I'm like, dude, well,

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of course, how much money is it? Like a seven

0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars? Yeah, see, that's not a small amount at all.

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I want seven hundred dollars please.

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 2>That is owed to me in the form of services

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and lodging that I was providing to you, and that

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 2>was agreed upon God whatever.

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>You know. You know what's a crazy thing about me?

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I have the I had the instinct. For three quarters

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of a second. I was like, I'll just send him

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the money. Then I was like, no, it's not about that. No,

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it's the principle of it is the principle of pleasure.

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 1>One of the great songs I feel like people are

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna be furious if we don't address, and just like that, okay, address,

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and just like that we have to address, and just

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like that one thing, I'll say I loved the choice

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>for the virgin nun played by Rosie o'donald to say

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I've never been to New York before in a New

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 1>York accent. Ah, that's how I knew we were still cooking,

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean for ros o'donald to just

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>launch I've never been to New York before, like in

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that accent as a virgin nun, lesbian nun who focks Miranda.

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Like more of that, like if I'm behind the wheel,

0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my foot is on the gas for more of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I am really disoriented by the aid and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta say, so, this five year thing is loose and

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:10.800
<v Speaker 2>then he shows up for a random thing because he

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:14.480
<v Speaker 2>was just in town unannounced, comes to the house like

1:00:15.080 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things need some sort of realist texture there,

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 2>and it just there's it's just a slippery fantasy, which

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 2>is I guess what Sex and the City always kind

1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 2>of was. But then at the same time, there were

1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:31.440
<v Speaker 2>moments of that show that were truly for lack of

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a better word like gritty.

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 1>They've got Carrie in a long distance relationship dealing with rats.

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't see this from my girl. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard when you have a character that you know always

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:46.360
<v Speaker 1>smarter than this, and we're watching her go through this,

1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, look, I understand, like I have. I've

1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>been there with really trying to make it work with

1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy that you believe is the one, but at

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a certain point, like she's too old for this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if it's like, Okay, we're building up

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to like her losing patience with this kind of domesticity

1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:07.640
<v Speaker 2>and then this breaks off of Aiden and then she

1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:10.240
<v Speaker 2>goes out into the dating world again. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that two episodes in a row of home maintenance

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<v Speaker 2>is this thing that is Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, but I think we are because this guy that's

1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:21.320
<v Speaker 1>coming in to do her backyard had they had a

1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:24.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of sexual attention, and I was just like, oh,

1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:28.800
<v Speaker 1>what they've done is they're they're essentially putting in an

1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Aiden who's actually available, because didn't you feel he gave Aiden?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I mean l o el at that hair

1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and then the just the belt being loose off of

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<v Speaker 2>it off of a loop like I'm like, okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so telegraphed.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, he's aiden. Aiden has come in

1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and suddenly there's an Aiden there that can be available

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<v Speaker 1>to her, and I'm hoping she jumps his bones quick,

1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like right quick. I just I need Carrie to be

1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>doing more sex in the city. That's that's what I

1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:02.840
<v Speaker 1>want from it. That's what that's what we all want.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I love the the Miranda plot

1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.280
<v Speaker 1>line of she fucks the virgin None. I was like, yes,

1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:15.720
<v Speaker 1>miss like that. This feels like it Okay. Any feelings, thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>things you want to say about The Wicked for a

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<v Speaker 1>good trailer, she hit the web hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I want to say that the Wicked trailer is

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<v Speaker 2>but a glimpse.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what can I say? I can't I love

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<v Speaker 1>I love Ruler Culture number ninety the trailer trailers, but

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<v Speaker 1>a glimpse. That's all we can say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say that Alphab's hair literally coming down

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<v Speaker 2>is a sligh to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that. I'm so I'm looking for a big

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<v Speaker 1>piece of art to put over my new couch, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Albaba with her hair down, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would like a let's say eighty by thirty. God,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge piece of state an art for my

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<v Speaker 1>living room, which is Alphaba with her hair down, having

1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:07.360
<v Speaker 1>just like fucked it up. I need that.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty inches is almost I would say seven feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so big. Seven feet. So right now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I hired an interior designer and I fucking

1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:21.760
<v Speaker 1>love her. I'm so excited and we're talking about like,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to make a big decision once you

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<v Speaker 1>put in your couch. It's like when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to go above it, is it like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different things? Is it shelving, is it asymmetry

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<v Speaker 1>or is it one big art?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you want one big art. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>want one big art.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm joking that it's Alphaba, But am I Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine if I if I if Trade came over

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<v Speaker 1>here and they're like, hey, so excited we finally connected. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was really good meal and drinks as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed the film we saw and when we ice

1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:53.280
<v Speaker 1>skated on our date, excited to go into your apartment

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<v Speaker 1>opens the door comes in, Dick a little hard sees

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<v Speaker 1>Alphaba on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the craziest core you've you've you've seen Trade have

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<v Speaker 2>when they've hosted.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a good question. I have an answer, so immediate.

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<v Speaker 1>What is what if Bowen Yang? What is the craziest

1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:15.200
<v Speaker 1>core you've seen Trade display? Sweet older gentleman in Midtown.

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<v Speaker 1>I walk in and.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no inch of wall in this apartment that was

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<v Speaker 2>not covered in like a plastic I should say, like

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<v Speaker 2>a little tiny sculptural disney.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, it's so rough in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way because and by the way, I am

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<v Speaker 2>not unreceptive to that, but it was, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>love us. It was a maximalism to a degree that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is this is a lot? And

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, I know, it's a lot. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't ready much less horny for it. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so you actually were? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I I looked past it, but on the way out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, God, damn, that's a giant moleficent, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is the Ryan Murphy's grotesquerie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I guess I have two one none

1:05:11.640 --> 1:05:14.120
<v Speaker 1>none as specific as that, but one I went over

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<v Speaker 1>a guy's apartment to hook up, and I was he

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<v Speaker 1>had so much art hung up and it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of beautiful. But everything I asked about, he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's this? He told me that his ex boyfriend had

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<v Speaker 1>hung it up. Shut up. He's like, oh yeah, my

1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:28.680
<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend hung that up. You can leave that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my ex boyfriend put that on that wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this this is a picture that my ex

1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:37.120
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend framed. I was just like, what, what about the

1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:41.480
<v Speaker 1>contents of the picture. It was always secondary so that

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<v Speaker 1>and then one time I took it doggy from someone

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<v Speaker 1>in a room that was a hoarders room. It was

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's like when you you meet someone in

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<v Speaker 1>there incredibly put together and you're like, well, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that it's gonna be two feet of clothes on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground that we have to climb over. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>even thinking about having someone come over, there has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a path to the bed. Yeah, oh yeah, you

1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:08.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like, if there's no path to

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<v Speaker 1>the bed, there's no path forward. That's actually real Coach

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<v Speaker 1>number forty. If there's no path to the bed, there

1:06:15.520 --> 1:06:19.800
<v Speaker 1>is no path forward. Some of these girls the bedding

1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:23.160
<v Speaker 1>is barely on, like the just just the sheets are

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, I don't have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>full bedding set, but sometimes the Mattres protector is like

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<v Speaker 1>halfway off and I go, oh, well we should figure

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<v Speaker 1>this out. Also, yes, and what do you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>pageantry with a towel on the bed? No? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, can we not? Like I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to fuck on a towel.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Although I did have the algorithm work, it's work

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<v Speaker 2>on me once and I bought one of those like

1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:57.480
<v Speaker 2>those like coum throws.

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<v Speaker 1>Like anal sex throw, like a com throw.

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<v Speaker 2>I've used it once, but it does kind of break

1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:05.120
<v Speaker 2>it where I'm like hold on, hold on, and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to like fish it out of the closet and

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<v Speaker 2>put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out uh huh uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a nice feeling. And it's not a towel,

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<v Speaker 2>for God's sake.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, one time I'm getting fucked by a

1:07:13.640 --> 1:07:16.800
<v Speaker 1>guy and trust me, like I've taken care of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm in the anal sex game now almost

1:07:19.360 --> 1:07:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteen years, we're we're good at this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking like around twenty seven twenty eight, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you kind of learn like, Okay, I'm not the

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<v Speaker 1>age where I can just like hop on Dix anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's it's not always a perfect science.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm at the point where like if I'm

1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:38.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be bottoming, like, don't worry about it. I've

1:07:38.560 --> 1:07:40.880
<v Speaker 1>figured it out. And if there if something goes down,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not crazy, like we're all adults here whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was, you know, recently, not recently, about a

1:07:49.120 --> 1:07:51.880
<v Speaker 1>year ago, like I was like, uh, can I fuck you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like yes, and then he's like we

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<v Speaker 1>should get a towel. I'm like, it's really okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, let's get a towel at my at

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<v Speaker 1>my house and I'm like no, I'm like, what about

1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:09.600
<v Speaker 1>looking at me in my beautiful eyes? Says I'm in

1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a ship everywhere. I don't think I was giving that,

1:08:12.400 --> 1:08:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think I give that. I'm one of

1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:17.880
<v Speaker 1>those gay guys that's like I don't farre. Ask Jared,

1:08:18.000 --> 1:08:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't fart. You don't far dated me a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those I don't fart gays, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because anytime I far you really get scandalized.

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<v Speaker 1>I have what I would describe as a full body response.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're far. Its sound like an angry Egyptian king.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're they're pretty bad. I should get that chat yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yours are the loudest sounds on on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>scale of sound, and mine are silent. But I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe not saying this, but they're bad. See you too far? No,

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<v Speaker 1>that was just for you. I really don't fart.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason I have a butthole is for sex

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<v Speaker 2>promise promise entrance only.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, But I was so much I was like, shut up,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm telling you it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's that's disgusting. Now get out. You're not fucking me.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm like, okay, let me get up and

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Like I'm like, I'm telling you it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so if we're in my house and I say

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, it's fine, totally. Oh I don't like that,

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<v Speaker 1>And just like that we've arrived at I don't think so, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time. Yeah, this is our segment where we take

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<v Speaker 1>one minute to really take the piss out of something

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<v Speaker 1>in culture. And I have something? Do you have something?

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<v Speaker 2>I do have something. Okay, this is great. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Rodgers's I don't think so honey, as time starts now, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think so honey that the actress Jen Lyon is

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<v Speaker 1>not a household name. So I watched The English Teacher

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<v Speaker 1>again and so enjoyed it. And she does the best

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<v Speaker 1>guest acting in a comedy performance I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally start the conversation right now. That needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>an Emmy nomination for gen Lyon in English Teacher. This

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<v Speaker 1>performance is funny, It was layered, it was everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, where have I seen her before? The

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<v Speaker 1>answer everywhere. She was on the show Clause, which was

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<v Speaker 1>an underrated show with Nisi Nash. It was a Nissi

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<v Speaker 1>Nash vehicle that also had a really great performance from

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<v Speaker 1>Kruci Tran. By the way, like this show was gold

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'll peel back the layers and you realize

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<v Speaker 1>gen Lyon slays it in so many things. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the funniest, most like complex, like I am

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<v Speaker 1>s depths giving actresses that's out there and I need

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<v Speaker 1>her to be known and I need her to be

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<v Speaker 1>cast in all things. I don't think so honey that

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<v Speaker 1>she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one minute thank you, but also she is

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<v Speaker 2>but also she is, so it's like it's yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we call, you know, a rising star.

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<v Speaker 1>I was lucky enough to serve on the jury of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gotham TV Awards and I did Supporting Performance in

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<v Speaker 1>a Comedy Series and that was one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why I was rewatching English Teacher because Sean Patton was nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>He's excellent. We ultimately gave the award to Pirna Jaganathan

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<v Speaker 1>from Deli Boys, a show that study wrote for, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's also great on. But I feel like people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>talking about and it's a really great show. So basically

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<v Speaker 1>I come here to say, watch those shows that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been meeting to watch that people have been telling you about,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've got stuff like this gen Lion performance which

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<v Speaker 1>just affected me in such a way and I was laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>I laugh out loud at that show, like the kids

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<v Speaker 1>in it are It's the best like kid acting I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in a really long time. Mmmmm, oh that's so fun. No,

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<v Speaker 1>just to have like authentic teens like saying these lines

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<v Speaker 1>that are really really well written comedy, but the way

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<v Speaker 1>that say it is so dropped in like it feels real.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel like kids are acting, which is so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. Shout out if a lot of plays.

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<v Speaker 2>We were pointing out to Tony's oh yeah, and shows

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<v Speaker 2>taking place at schools in the classroom. A shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to anyone who runs a production or does has to

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<v Speaker 2>corral children.

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<v Speaker 1>Of any kind. You deserve a billion dollars. Okay, when

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<v Speaker 1>are you seeing John Proferter as the Villain?

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait. I'm seeing it on the fourteenth, right

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<v Speaker 2>before we go to France. I can't wait for you

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<v Speaker 2>to see it and talk to you about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Bowen Yang you had and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so honey to do mm hmm. And I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 1>that to hear it. Great, this is Bowe Yang's. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Having a matinee on Tony Sunday, I think was making

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<v Speaker 2>these poor people. Some of them love to do it

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<v Speaker 2>and shout out, but I say, you give them a

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<v Speaker 2>day to pamper themselves up to really, you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>the micro current machine going on the face or get

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<v Speaker 2>the little whax that they might have not had time

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<v Speaker 2>during the rest of the week when they have seven

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<v Speaker 2>other shows, maybe six other shows. Let's say, fine, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a Sunday night show. I just think these

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<v Speaker 2>people deserve a day off, a third and dated day

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<v Speaker 2>off on Tony Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was thinking, you know what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, my girl Audra changes into the Mama Rose

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<v Speaker 2>get up, then has to We know Broadway loves a

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<v Speaker 2>quick change. These actors love a quick change. That has

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<v Speaker 2>to quick change back into her gorgeous gown. I say,

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<v Speaker 2>take the stress out. I used to love a quick change,

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<v Speaker 2>but now I go, don't touch, let me just sit

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<v Speaker 2>because you want to just these people deserve to just sit.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they're working with a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>inertia and momentum, and they have to keep moving, but

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<v Speaker 2>just I give them a moment to just be still.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one minute. I couldn't believe that that was

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<v Speaker 1>the second time Audre had done that that day, in

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<v Speaker 1>that day, giving one hundred and ten percent, like you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, I was so shook by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>that PHO. Now, I think if you haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>you if you listen back to when I first saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in previews, you kind of get what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when I say, we're gonna go on Wednesday. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we're taking Sudie. I can't wait. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited for you to see it. It's great. But you

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<v Speaker 1>get what I mean when I say that I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that this angle on Rose was talking more about her

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who was like mentally ill, Like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>frightened of Rose in Roses Turn, You're frightened for her, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And by the end I was like, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt her anguish in a way where I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, like in such

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy way. And also, she does eight shows a week.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have an understudy going on, not one day,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the other people can't say that

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<v Speaker 1>she does eight. She does eight. That is Odra Mick duh,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking legend, fucking legend, fucking legend for all time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought just the right amount of addressing it

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<v Speaker 2>at the show last night with Oprah saying a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was absolutely lovely to get to know you better,

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<v Speaker 1>I really got to know you and your sexual experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking a dog in a messy room with with with

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<v Speaker 1>not without a clear path to the bed. That's that's hiking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hike. Doggy in a messy room without a

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<v Speaker 1>clear path to the bed, Sabrina Carpenter lyric, Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, we end every episode with a song

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