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Speaker 2: So I went to the sweat box, which is and

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Speaker 2: It's like the literal movements of bodies. Good luck AI

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Speaker 2: I don't know. A fucking a robot to me will

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Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that Nicole Scherzinger. So for years

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Speaker 2: Yes, now, Simon Cowell, they cut to him. He realized

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Speaker 1: But the thing is like, I think she did work

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Speaker 1: is also one of the only jobs in entertainment where

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Speaker 1: a lot of people can weigh in about, like who's staying,

433
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: who's going, who's getting hired, who's getting fired, why are

434
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: they leaving? And it's really interesting. I think for that

435
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: to be an element of like what you do as

436
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: a job. You know what I'm saying, it's kind of interesting.

437
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: It's I'm not saying it's good or bad. And I've

438
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: participated in speculation like that obviously, Like we have this podcast,

439
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Then suddenly when it's something

440
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: that's knocking on your door, you're like, oh, wow, Like

441
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: it's just interesting, it's a new feeling. Yes, how do

442
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: you feel in that feeling? Wow? Did you see that

443
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: text we just got? Yeah, we gotta be a fun text.

444
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: Someone just confirmed for the Cultural Awards and it's gonna

445
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Someone we don't really know

446
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: that well, I know, but I'm excited. There's lots of

447
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: exciting things happening.

448
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: We are really, really, really committed to making this a

449
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: fun show, and the artist pre sale went out very quickly.

450
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: We're so grateful.

451
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: We're sorry if it was frustrating for anybody in terms

452
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: of procuring them. But the sort of end goal of

453
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: all this is that this can be shared with everyone.

454
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: We've said this in the past, but I think it

455
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: bears repeating that it's gonna be great.

456
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be pleased. It's gonna be the most fun.

457
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: Thank you for selling that the fuck out yet again,

458
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: Like you guys do you guys are the best. It'll

459
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: be the best one yet for sure. You know what.

460
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: I finally got to watch all of which we were in,

461
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: but I didn't get to actually consume as a whole

462
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: was overcom overcomments. Have you watched I am up to

463
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: our episode? Yeah, it's funny because the one thing I

464
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: had been hearing was what year is it? What year

465
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Speaker 1: is it? Can I say one of my favorite things

466
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: about the show is that we don't know what year

467
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Speaker 1: it is. I think it's like one of the most

468
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: fun things about it is like her singing my chemical romance.

469
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it's I like that, it's in that way it's

470
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: this meta comment on like this could be any year,

471
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: you know.

472
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: What, because it can. And I feel like, and I'll

473
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: just openly and honestly about this, because there were some

474
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: people I was talking to that were like, oh, he's

475
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: it's about him coming out of the closet, Like how

476
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: is that gonna play in twenty twenty five? People forget that?

477
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: And it's resonating so much with so many people because yeah,

478
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 1: maybe you the Royal, you feel like you're beyond that

479
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: conversation about like being accepted and you know it being

480
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: a normal thing to be gay, but not everyone is. No,

481
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: Like I feel like our culture like really warp speed

482
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: like traveled through you know what it means too, like

483
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: the love simon y type of gay thing. Right, It's

484
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: like and I remember the discourse at the time was like, oh,

485
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: this is an incredibly like like white gay experience. He

486
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: had like incredibly accepting parents, et cetera. Like it didn't

487
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: seem like it was that hard for him and et cetera.

488
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 1: But I remember at the time being like, right, but

489
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: you do need something like this in order to broach

490
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: the subject on like a commercial way. And all these

491
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: years have gone by and you see like this I

492
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: worry about, Like, you know, this kid, he's in a

493
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: very attractive guy, he's just obviously smart. He goes to Georgetown,

494
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: he still has an incredibly difficult time coming out, and yeah,

495
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: you don't know when it takes place. But I think

496
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: that that's all outside of the fact, which is that

497
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: people want to see stories, whether they're gay and it's

498
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: coming out or whatever about I'm not sure if I'm

499
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: my true self, if people are gonna accept me, and

500
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: that does it. It's less about like it being a

501
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: queer thing or whatever, because it's the question central question

502
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: of the show is are people gonna love me if

503
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: I really show them who I am? Yeah?

504
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: And that is universal and the reason why, I mean, look,

505
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: we've done a lot of press about our products where

506
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, we're just so refreshed that we're involved

507
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: in something that is not like a coming out story,

508
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: Like there are other queer stories to be told, but

509
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: there's the appeal of a coming out story is always

510
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: that it is legibly about an completely internal sort of

511
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: like journey.

512
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what makes over Compensating a compelling show.

513
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like you don't have to see this

514
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: guy be out of the closet just yet there are

515
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: in fact, like the the Owen, Theey like character, Thel

516
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: character is like the perfect sort of like foiled to

517
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: that where it's like where it does make it somewhat

518
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: relevant to now, where it's like in a world that

519
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: seems like it is people have already figured themselves out

520
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: ahead of you, Like, how does that make you feel?

521
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: I feel this.

522
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: Way still as a queer person. I'm like, yeah, wow,

523
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm so stunted in all these different ways. I feel

524
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: completely insecure about all these things, Like that is when

525
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: I've been out of the closet for half my life.

526
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: Now it's like this is an incredibly universal thing. And

527
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: that is probably what they discussed when they were trying

528
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: to figure out the story of the series.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have made it to the end, and

530
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say spoiler alert, like because maybe not

531
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: everyone's at the end. But in the final episode of

532
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: the show, like Benito goes over to Owen, who like Benito,

533
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: I'll say something about both their performances in a second

534
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: after I get through this, which I'm so blown away

535
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: by everybody in the show. But Benito goes up to Owen,

536
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: after he's you know, kind of denied that they're friends

537
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: in front of some straight guys. Some straight guys see

538
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Benito talking to Owen and they go, oh, are you

539
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: guys friends? And Benito says, no, we're not friends, like

540
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: right in front of him and disregards him, and Owen

541
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: just really comfortably and just casually just like denies Benito

542
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: when he tries to, like, you know, pick up like

543
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: they've you know, nothing has happened, et cetera. And you know,

544
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of just this moment where this out gay

545
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: kid who really knows himself is able to just like

546
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: sort of be the person who makes Benito like say,

547
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: I need to change what's going on. I just want

548
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: I guess it's a word salad here, But what I'm

549
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: remembering is when I went to college and I was

550
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: that kid. The thing that hurt me the most was

551
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: when the out gay kids were looking at me like

552
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: we see you and it's pathetic. Oh you know what

553
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean. And that hurt more than any straight guy

554
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: testing me or you know, pushing my buttons because they

555
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: felt like they knew something about me, or any of

556
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: my girlfriends being a little too knowing, you know, Like

557
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: what really got to me was when an out gay

558
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: person who felt realized looked at me and was like no,

559
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: and then the rejection coming from them, Yeah, was like

560
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: the most painful thing. And I do think that is

561
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: the point obviously in the series, where it's not long

562
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: after that that things change.

563
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, that rejection from an out queer person, let's say,

564
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: just pushes you a little bit further into the closet

565
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: in my opinion, whereas like you talking to a girlfriend

566
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: who might know something, or you kind of like on

567
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: a know, douking it out mentally with like a straight

568
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: guy who's trying to like uncover something that's you, like

569
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: holding the line that's you, like holding the line of

570
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: like who you are, Like I get to control how

571
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: much I reveal. But then someone judging you or someone

572
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: thinking that you are being pathetic in the way that

573
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: you're trying to like negotiate this is I think only

574
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: kind of alienates you. Yeah, and Ali, it's Binito's character.

575
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Probably I have not gotten to that episode yet.

576
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: It's just like there. I remember, like I was watching

577
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: it in the beginning and I was like, oh, is

578
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: he going to stay closeted? Like the whole season, and

579
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: I knew we were in episode six where he was

580
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: still dealing with that, and he was kind of seeing

581
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: our characters in like secret because it was like his

582
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: first grinder hookup. But I mean my truth was and

583
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I think your truth was, and I can speak for

584
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: both of us here as we remained in the closet

585
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: the entirety of our freshman year. Mm hmm. Yeah. I

586
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: was obviously a little bit more complicated for you because

587
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: you had come out trior and it was whatever. But

588
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: I remember the thing that I can and if this

589
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: is like a truthful depiction of what someone like this

590
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: as freshman year is like, is yeah, I mean it

591
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: might not have been and what everyone would have wanted,

592
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: but I stayed in that fucking closet and talked in

593
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: a voice like the one he's using in that show

594
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: for the entirety of freshman Year, to the point where

595
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: it was physically painful, and the fact that he could

596
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: hold that much discomfort in his body and in his

597
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: voice and in his performance, like, I don't know, my

598
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: hat is off to him because it's not a fun

599
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: place to live, and it's not where he naturally lives.

600
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Now knowing him.

601
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: Totally I mean, but he I saw him over the weekend,

602
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: and I was just like, God, there have been so

603
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: many moments where I've like gone back fifteen seconds or

604
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: just paused on frames, like he's a really gifted actor,

605
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: just an incredible actor, and so so amazing what he's done,

606
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: just as this creator and the star. We're just so happy.

607
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: We're just so happy for him. It's just really nice

608
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: to see like the community sort of rallying around this too.

609
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what I was thinking, because because

610
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: I also was pulling that, I was like, Wow, it

611
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of the queer community, a lot

612
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: of gay guys are like out here saying like I

613
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: watched this show, I loved this show. I felt good

614
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: watching the show. I felt seen watching the show in

615
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: a way that made me feel really happy and actually

616
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: reminded me of the reception that we got from Fire Island.

617
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Like I felt like gay guys were not being shy

618
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: about saying that they loved it and that they watched

619
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: it and that they were supporting it. And I just

620
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes it can feel, you know, from project

621
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: to project that the narrative changes a little bit and

622
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: sometimes can air on this side of oh, gay guys

623
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: don't support each other, or like, you know, gay guys

624
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: are the cruelest to each other in media, and I

625
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: do think in some regard that is true. Like certainly,

626
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: if I ever, you know, want to self immolate and

627
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: I want to feel bad about myself, I'll go on.

628
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact that the nasty things

629
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: that are being said about like us or me or

630
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: our projects are from gay guys. But I really do

631
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: just want to shout out the fact that like, lots

632
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: of gay guys support queer projects, like lots of hard

633
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: people are out here doing that, and I don't want

634
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: it to get lost in the discussion of like, oh,

635
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, gay guys can't support other gay guys uns

636
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: they're drag queens or porn stars. Like I don't want

637
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: it to get lost that that's not really true. And

638
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I really, like I feel like if I were Benito,

639
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: or if I'm myself, or if I'm anyone out here

640
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: with a queer project, like I wouldn't want to toss

641
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: like queer people like gay men under the bus that

642
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: are supporting that when I do know for a fact

643
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: that that happens.

644
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know I was going to generalize

645
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: and say, like a lot of that animis comes from

646
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: this insecurity or something or something internalized whatever, But I

647
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: also don't want to like, sometimes the gay guys are

648
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: cruel and critical for good reason, for good reasons of

649
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: maybe obviously those are those are some cases, But you're right,

650
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I mean, I felt it from

651
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: a lot of cis gay guys shout out like I

652
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: don't know, I just couldn't live without.

653
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went to the Betty Who concert and it

654
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: was all all the gay men and we both played

655
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Webster Hall, and I was just thinking about when the

656
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: last time I was at Webster Hall, which was my show,

657
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: my Christmas show, and it was all it was all katies,

658
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: it was all women, and I was like, it's so

659
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: funny because like I'm here at this Betty Who show

660
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: and it's wall to wall gay guys and tank tops,

661
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: being like it's pride and we're at the Betty Who

662
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: show and we know the choreo and we're obsessed and

663
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: by the way, shout out to Betty Who gets better

664
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: and fucking better, Betty Who, You're incredible. And I was

665
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: a gay guy at your show and I was happy

666
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: to be, but then I was just thinking. I was like,

667
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: I wonder what it would feel like for this many

668
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: gay guys and gay guys to show up for me.

669
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, you know what, though

670
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: they did. They did. Maybe they weren't at the front,

671
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: but there were tons of gay guys at my show.

672
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: And I don't want to keep telling myself story that

673
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: like gay guys don't support other gay guys, because it's

674
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: not true.

675
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: No, they're definitely where. I opened grinder that night and

676
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, the is all within two hundred feet.

677
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: You open grinder at my show? I got to delete it.

678
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm on it too much.

679
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: And it's like people, yeah, and seventy five percent of

680
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: my messages this is just a this is not a complaint.

681
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: It's just like my landscape. It's just seventy five percent

682
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: of people being like.

683
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: Is this real? Oh my god, you're brave.

684
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm a horny in theory at all

685
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: times gay guy.

686
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: That is. I think something that I could I could

687
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: ask people to strike from their personal thing is like,

688
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: is this really you? About the people?

689
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 2: What I say is I'd be the most random. Actually,

690
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: I'd be the most random gay person of note of

691
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: recognition to Catfish Eyes.

692
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: That I kind of feel like that too. It's like,

693
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you just pick Matt Boehmer.

694
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: At summer Summer? Is we've really flipped you and I

695
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 2: you're not feeling good. I am not feeling good about

696
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: this summer and that's okay, and it will all blow over.

697
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: I am like in the gallows. It's something's going on,

698
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: and I got to talk to my therapist about it.

699
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: I think I am depressed because all I want to

700
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: do is when is just play video games when I

701
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: get up. Thanks to my switch too from NINTENTO, thank

702
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: you for betting my depression.

703
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: Nintendo. That's just like a way that you like to

704
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: spend your time. So you you waking up and like

705
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: wanting to do that is just like I think what

706
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: you're craving is the time to do that. But like

707
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's obviously been it's been cuckoo crazy schedule time.

708
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: But you know, I I was just kind of going

709
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: through it bullet point by bullet point with you last night,

710
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: and I had not actually said the words out loud

711
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: or just like gone through it beat by beat until then,

712
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: and it was like, woa, the last seven months have been, yeah,

713
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: as eroding as they have been, maybe f like I

714
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: might be in an even This is not to scare anybody,

715
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: but like I think I am, I'm just managing it

716
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: better for sure. This is like I'm like, oh god,

717
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: this is just I'm reminded of that place that I

718
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: was at when I needed to take a break from

719
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: the podcast. And I'm not saying that's what's going to happen,

720
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: but I'm like, oh, yeah, ye, I really need to

721
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: just keep crawling and it will be okay because that

722
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: got better and this will get better. And I'm just

723
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: being real with my sister and my wonderful, wonderful, wonderful

724
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 2: community of readers, Katie's publicis and finalists and Kyle's that Yeah,

725
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm, I'm I'm crisped up. But it's okay. The

726
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: meat will will tender rize.

727
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: Soon, I know. And I want you to know that

728
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: I know you know this, You've noticed, you've clocked it. Well,

729
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: it's not even about me noticing, It's just about you

730
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: knowing that I'm here for you and anything. And then

731
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: if all I ask is that you just don't add

732
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: anything just don't add anything, and that is in your control.

733
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: That you everyone's Becka to Beca had a fun weekend,

734
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: do you think, Becka, do you think we would be

735
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: allowed to go to the Puerto Rican Pride festivities next year? Yes?

736
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, please? It looks so fun.

737
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: Is a of a huge crew of people.

738
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: I would love to go, and then we'll show up

739
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, what's their name?

740
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: It was a myriad of people across the diaspora, not

741
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: to as let me say that friends that were just

742
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: like this is so dope and I want to be involved.

743
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: I will say the Manhattan Parade is giving corporate stakeholders.

744
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like all, because that is the true party.

745
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: Like if you want to go on the island, you

746
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: go to Bushwick.

747
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

748
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: We came about to Marie Hernana's park. You see all

749
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: the stars souped up. Everyone's playing bad Bunny at different locations.

750
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, oh no Bunny going on at once. I

751
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: don't just mean what I fantasize about erectly.

752
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: I mean there were rumors who's going to show up?

753
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: He didn't.

754
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: It's fine, but.

755
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: He now occupies There's like an iconic, you know on Houston. Uh,

756
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: massive board, like whoever's the one at the time? And

757
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: right now there there is a huge bad bunny.

758
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 3: Has one a picture for pinching it.

759
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Anna you filthy dog. Now that's too much.

760
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: We don't like that filthy humor. Not on Lost Colt,

761
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: not on Coach, not on Lost Coach. Do you think

762
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: that the summer will be improved? We love you, Becca,

763
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: give it for back, everybody, godsend. Do you think the

764
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: summer will be improved by having a legitimate contender for

765
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: Song of the Summer with man Child by Brienna Carpenter,

766
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: Because not a single one of these other songs were

767
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: legitimate contenders until now. No, You're right.

768
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: I am so thrilled that Sabrina is already kind of

769
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: locking in as an artist for as long as it

770
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: makes her happy and fulfilled. Is one of those artists

771
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: who is just not going to really ever take any

772
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: big break until she's ready to do that. I love

773
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: that she's one of those girls who's like, I'm just

774
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: gonna keep releasing tracks year round.

775
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: She's ready for it. I feel like the thing that

776
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: sets Sabrina apart from everyone is she actually had years

777
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: to like train for this show. Oh yeah, like Mama

778
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: is many albums deep, she now knows exactly who she

779
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: is because she had the time to develop. Like she

780
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: wasn't bailed on by the industry. She wasn't like embraced

781
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: by the industry, but no one. It seems like it

782
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: was like the slowest climb until it just snapped in

783
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: and now she is like the bazooka with these hit songs.

784
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: I guess that's the one thing couple of my friends

785
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: were saying was it feels like not a lot of

786
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: a departure. But my thing is like, if you're locked

787
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: and loaded with a bop, just release the bop, you

788
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

789
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: I would say, it's like, to me, it's giving fifteen minutes.

790
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: But with that eighties synth opening, Yeah, very good luck, babe.

791
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: Like I love that blend of like she's she's going

792
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: out on I think banjo lex.

793
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Love.

794
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: It fades out on banjo lex, but then it starts

795
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: with like these like that that that eighties kind of thing,

796
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh love, yeah, that you synthesized something

797
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: kind of newish for us.

798
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: I love it. I love her as like a low

799
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: key country artist, like I love her like super like

800
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: nine to five aesthetic that she's giving. It felt like

801
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: nine to five on the road. It's felt like nine

802
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: to five meets like Thelma and the Wheeze, like woman

803
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: of the eighties early nineties thing. I love the video.

804
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite music videos I've seen in

805
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: a very long time. Just like the amount of setups.

806
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: I was watching it wondering. I was like, I wonder

807
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: if this was storyboarded or they just like set up

808
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: a million locations and then got everything. Either way, it

809
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: is so much fun to watch. It's one that you

810
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: could watch again and again and again and again and

811
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: again and again. She's just fucking got it. Yeah, Star,

812
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Full Star, We're obsessed and Jack anton Off, Amy Allen

813
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: and Sabrina Carpenter. That's a trio that should just keep rocking,

814
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: keep sticking together. Amy. Yeah, she's everything. Gray Grammy winner, right,

815
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: she won the Grammy. Yeah, songwriter up the Yeah, Yep.

816
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: She might be an interesting person to have on the

817
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: podcast because like, that's Amy. That's truly like nuts and bolts.

818
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: How this how the oh sausage gets made? I almost

819
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 1: said how the salad gets tossed? Yeah? Can I say

820
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: it's definitely how the sausage gets made. It's not how

821
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: the salad gets tost If she's got insights on how

822
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the salad gets tossed, I would love to hear that

823
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: as well. I don't need any tips, just kidding, ill, God,

824
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: I hate myself myself. I did get a d M

825
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: from a guy. No, maybe it was grinder message, and

826
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: this is how you know it was getting too crazy

827
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: on that was like, I bet you're incredible at eating

828
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: ass and I was like, I gotta put the phone away.

829
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I got to put the phone away. No.

830
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: One guy recently was like whatever sent me in nudo

831
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: was like great, and then he goes, yeah, you like

832
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: that bagot and I was like, okay, well now I

833
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: do have to I wish I was the kind of

834
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: person who were who was turned on by like full

835
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: I fully full sub. I don't think I'm full sub.

836
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't like being called slurs.

837
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: No, I don't like being called slurs or being told

838
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: what kind of physical pain I'm in. Someone said to

839
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: me recently, I can't wait to choke you and watch

840
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: your beautiful eyes fill with tears. And I was like, well,

841
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: thank you for elements of that sense, you know, what

842
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, it's great that you want to fuck

843
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: me a lot. I'm so happy that you think my

844
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: eyes are beautiful. I liked when you call the beautiy. Yeah,

845
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: thanks for saying I'm beautiful. But then when I thought

846
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: about choking so much, well, first of all, I'm on

847
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: the record that I don't think so you choking, it's

848
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: just for me, it's and then so I was like,

849
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: but don't you love poppers. I was like, yeah, I

850
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: like to pop up. And then they were like, well,

851
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of the same. No, I would

852
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of same like ideas like cutting off circulation, And

853
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about that.

854
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that this is like a this is danger,

855
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm putting my hand around my throat, this is

856
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: like this is a little whatever. Like our brains are

857
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: evolved a certain way to to to register that as

858
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: like a fear.

859
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's giving. Oh no, you know what I mean.

860
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: And that's I just I always need to be able

861
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: to breathe. That's a big rule for me. Yeah, that

862
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: you should be able to breathe, need to breathe, need

863
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: to be able to breathe at least have the opportunity.

864
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to agree.

865
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Write that down right later. Oh, write that sound for later.

866
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: Lust Cult.

867
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Finally, fucks what we could have done on an overcompensating.

868
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Y'all, here's the team? Should we say that? We got

869
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: the original script and we were like, can we pair

870
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: this back in a little bit?

871
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: And the original script had us making out and we

872
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: were like, maybe that's a bridge too far, both like

873
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, just like for us as friends and

874
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: for just I think the scene itself it would have

875
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: been a gag.

876
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: It made me nervous. I was like, I feel like,

877
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: if we ever kissed in film and media, it has

878
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: to be on our terms. It can't begin someone else's project,

879
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: can I say?

880
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: In hindsight, and not just because the show is a

881
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: huge success, that would have been That would have been

882
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: a fine place to be, like, let's just go for it,

883
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

884
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: You know what I wish I had done. I wish

885
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: I had had libbed one thing, which is the last

886
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: thing while I'm while I'm spoiler alert, jacking off on

887
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: the jump other road. Yeah, yeah, I wish I had

888
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: said I am so in love with you. I love that.

889
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: I would have said something along the line's like you're

890
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: my husband. That was so crazy girl. Wait you know

891
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: what Benny said to me.

892
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: He was like and I was like, shut the fuck up,

893
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: because he was being sweet, but it was like a

894
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: compliment that didn't sound like a compliment until later he

895
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Bowen, like, I just have

896
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: to tell you like you like in the script it

897
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: was originally get out of our house, and you added

898
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: to get out of our townhouse.

899
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Like that is so lateral. Shut the fuck up, Like

900
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: what are you saying? No, people are obsessed with that line.

901
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: But then later on I'm like, oh, I guess that

902
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: is like the slightest that is the serrated edge that

903
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: that is. That is the bit of as Emily Oberman

904
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: describes it at Pentagram, the bit of wit, the thing

905
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: that is nicely off. It's like, oh, okay, get out

906
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: of our townhouse just hits a little bit different than

907
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: get out of our house.

908
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: This is so funny. We're complimenting our own performances. But no, no,

909
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: but by the way, but when I got there in

910
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: the show, and I of course had seen this scene

911
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: isolated because they had sent it over, and they were like,

912
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, we love it. We're so excited. So

913
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I watched it. I was like, oh my god, yeah,

914
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: fun presented in the show. I was like, really works

915
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: because it is a panicky situation for him, like when

916
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: you're following him the whole time, and then you find

917
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: us with our two creatures, and the way that it

918
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: starts so kind of like you know, you think he

919
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: might be understood, and then you come in and it's

920
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: a whole other fucking thing. It really worked. Yeah, And

921
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I love that subtly. I am so the bottom and

922
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: you are so the top. Like you totally are the top.

923
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: Like even when you walk in and you go, oh

924
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: like that, you said it like a top, like you

925
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: did the whole thing like the top, And I did

926
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing like a bottom one hundred percent. Because

927
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: you are the top in that relationship. Davis is the top.

928
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: I think you're the top in our relationship. To be

929
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: honest with you, baby, non sexual the top.

930
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: Ye, No, I think you talk a lot with us.

931
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: That's not true. I'm quiet as a mouse girl.

932
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm not topping you in life. I'm not. I'm I'm

933
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: out here. I feel the bottom. I feel you're at

934
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: the bottom with us.

935
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've celebrated that I've forgot on record saying whatever.

936
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: I just I like that about us. How are you

937
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: denoting bottom? Well, gosh, this is something I have to

938
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: examine too.

939
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh I'm denoting bottom as uh as sub because of

940
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: that directionality.

941
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't find you to be sub okay, socially friendship

942
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: wise really no. But I also don't think you're dominant.

943
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: I just think you're the top.

944
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: God, can I just say God, this is gonna sound

945
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: so annoying, but with like the night that I had off,

946
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna go and meet this guy

947
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: for drinks. Sure barely got a word of note adries.

948
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is my biggest pet peel. And you know,

949
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: I was talking to Lily Glad Lily about this during press.

950
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: I was like, we did this like them speed dating thing.

951
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: I don't think they used this part, but they're But

952
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: one of the questions was what's your biggest pet peeve dating?

953
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I think mine is just just not

954
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: saying a peep. I've gotten so many dates lately where

955
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: I just don't say a peep. I don't get asked anything. Yeah,

956
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: and then Lily was like, that's probably because they it's

957
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: people who know it to you, and also they are

958
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: nervous and all these things. I'm like, but like, at

959
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: the end of the day, no matter what the dynamic is,

960
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: if it's a date, it's like, it should be equitable.

961
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: It should be an equitable conversation. That's that's that's my

962
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: radical opinion. Am I am I wrong? No, you're one

963
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: hundred percent right.

964
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: I think I do think Lily is probably right, like

965
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: I would imagine, and that that people obviously come with

966
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: a with an idea of recognition for you, and they're

967
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: therefore baggage about the situation, and so they're probably coming

968
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: to the table thinking, well, I'm going to show that

969
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm valuable as well by sharing a lot. Meanwhile, it's like,

970
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: what you really want to do is be actually understood

971
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: or just on a date. Yeah, just on it, Just

972
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: be on a date.

973
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: You know what I know about you, even though I

974
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: have not witnessed it firsthand. I bet you're a great

975
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: fucking date. And I'm going to say I'm a great

976
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: fucking date. I bet you are. One hundred I try,

977
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: I try. I try to make it so easy for

978
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: the other person. Hence me like nodding along, listening. I'm

979
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: with them every every step of the way as they

980
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: unfurther life towards like towards me, and I retain all

981
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: that information, I really do, so that the next time,

982
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: if there's the next time, I like follow up, I.

983
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Just I wish I could be afforded that. Yeah, I

984
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: think that's well. And now I think, in stating it

985
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: out loud, this is one way to do that. Sure,

986
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: hopefully people someone out there takes the note. I guess

987
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm wondering now to myself because I always feel like

988
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: when you're when we're talking about dating, it's so easy

989
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: to be like other people be like or like I

990
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: hate my totally, and I'm trying to ask myself the

991
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: question of, like, if I could take accountability, what could

992
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: I do better with dating? I know I know already

993
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: what mine is, what's yours.

994
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: It's I'm so bad at the texting back, and that

995
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: is just across the border problem I have. That's just

996
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: across the board, something that I have with you with

997
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: no our friends, like like it's like it's it's just

998
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: something that infects every part of my life.

999
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel left on red by you ever, it's

1000
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: it's great to think that I could get even swifter

1001
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: response you can leverage. I think my thing is I

1002
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: just bring other experiences into That's okay, but it's so

1003
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: hard not to. Yeah, I sometimes have to extra remind

1004
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: myself that, you know, other people I've been, I've dated

1005
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: are not in the room with us when I'm on

1006
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: a new one, and like, I don't like like I'm

1007
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: talking to a new person, not someone I can project

1008
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: something on from all older situations. But that's my thing.

1009
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: And also just knowing what I want to begin with totally,

1010
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: because I think we could. I could personally save a

1011
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: lot of people a lot of time if I were

1012
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: just like, maybe this is not what you want. Yeah,

1013
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: because for me, it's no longer the thing of like

1014
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm performing on a date or I

1015
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: feel the need to stunt on a date, or like

1016
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: win a date, like that's something I'm I'm I'm over.

1017
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: It's other things now, it's like why am I here

1018
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: to begin with? And while I'm here, what am I

1019
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: thinking about? And what am I anticipating?

1020
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: Yes, that gets in the way that that that like

1021
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: that like colors the rest of it within the date.

1022
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: It's unfair to the other person and myself. Yeah, you

1023
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I've had a dating trauma and

1024
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: I feel like, no matter how hard I try. And

1025
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's like it's it's it's much of

1026
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: a problem as it's been. I'm just saying that is

1027
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: my challenge now is like this person isn't gonna hurt

1028
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: you necessarily, Like if you can actually trust what this

1029
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: person says, you know what I mean. Like, it's especially

1030
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: as you get into your mid thirties, it's it kind

1031
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: of feels like less people are likely to bullshit, so

1032
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: give them the opportunity to be gene. Just because you

1033
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: had one bad experience doesn't mean they're all going to

1034
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: be like that.

1035
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: I will say, what was done to you is so unusual.

1036
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: Your dating trauma as it was inflicted upon you was

1037
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: of such a durrain.

1038
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: Nature.

1039
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: I was just saying, I was gonna say nature it was.

1040
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: It was so extreme and like something that I would

1041
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: not wish upon my worst enemy.

1042
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: But this is where the accountability comes in totally.

1043
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: But I just want to I just want to put

1044
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: that out there and like it just I feel for

1045
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: you constantly in this regard because it's like God, it

1046
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: could not have happened to like a more undeserving person

1047
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: whatever deserving means. But you know what I mean, it's

1048
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: like God, like you, you can't fucking like, why would

1049
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: you do that?

1050
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: Don't do it to Matt, don't do it to anyone? Okay,

1051
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: what were you saying? Accountability? I think the accountability part

1052
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: is is also being like, Okay, a shitty thing happened

1053
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: to you in your life. Forget about dating whatever, it's

1054
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: like a relationship, whatever it is, Like where's the accountability

1055
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: Because at a certain point you do have to stop

1056
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: saying like, well it's because this person was this or

1057
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: wrong place, wrong time, or whatever. Like I've been able

1058
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: to make so many positive changes just about like managing

1059
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: my energy and knowing about people's capabilities through certain situations,

1060
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: and also it has made a lot of other things

1061
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: in my life make sense, Like I will never say

1062
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: to anyone now like you have to get over it. It's

1063
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: been a long time, you know what I mean, or

1064
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. I'm grateful for the ups

1065
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: and downs of dating in general, because they fill out

1066
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: a landscape of what that experience is really like In

1067
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: totality so that you can be more sensitive and more

1068
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: generous and more understanding and empathetic with people. That they

1069
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: do say that about like heartbreak and about grief is

1070
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: it is miserable to go through. But then ultimately that

1071
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: is what makes you a three sixty full human. That's

1072
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: what colors in the coloring book that of your emotional

1073
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: life are the hard things. It's just fucking tough while

1074
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: you're going through them. And I do think like accountability

1075
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: is important. Sure, you can give as much as you

1076
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: can get, and like there's one thing being like, oh,

1077
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick this around with my girlfriends and my

1078
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: sisters and my best friends about like how shitty the

1079
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: situation was. But then there's another element of it, which

1080
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: is like, and I could do better too, of course.

1081
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: And the fact that you even have that mechanism to

1082
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: be like, let me examine myself is something that the

1083
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: vast majority of people don't have yet because we're just

1084
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: people in our thirties dating I think for the most part,

1085
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: other people in our thirties and we're all figuring this

1086
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: out together. That's the thing about dating within your age.

1087
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: Everyone on some levels developmentally on the same track. But

1088
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: also there is something appealing about dating for me older,

1089
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: but then that becomes but then you have to like

1090
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: parse out, well is that a flag of any color

1091
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: for them? You know, It's like there's just so many

1092
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: different things that you have.

1093
00:54:50,920 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: To think about. Study is like positive, we both have

1094
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: to date older. She's positive. She says it all the time.

1095
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: She's like, well, you both need someone who's going to

1096
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: take control in her like way of saying that, and

1097
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like, see, I wonder though, I wonder, all right,

1098
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: dating older quote unquote is different saying that at thirty five,

1099
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: saying that at twenty five, You know what I mean?

1100
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: Like when I was twenty five, dating older like a

1101
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: guy in his thirties. Now dating older at thirty five

1102
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know what guy in his fifties,

1103
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's that's someone that's looking for something

1104
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: totally different. Probably, It's like it's so it's I certainly

1105
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Daddy Ploorn and I'll tell you that,

1106
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: I tell you that.

1107
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, uh, in terms of taking control, I

1108
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: don't know about that either. All I want this is

1109
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: all I want. I want someone to know what restaurants

1110
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: to go to. Mm hmm, that's all I actually want.

1111
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: And when you say that, do you mean like you

1112
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: want someone that's going to take care of the decisions

1113
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: of the law of the life. Yeah. Yeah, I made

1114
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: a reservation for us here. Meet me here. The cleaning

1115
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: person is coming on Thursday. Like not a nurser of me,

1116
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: but just someone someone that has that on their mind,

1117
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: take care of you.

1118
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: I have my like dashboard of life all kind of

1119
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: laid out the way that I wanted to accept in

1120
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: some few deficiencies, and it would be so nice. And

1121
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: this is not a requirement obviously, and we're just talking,

1122
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: we're just shooting from the hep here. But it's like,

1123
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 2: would be so cool if like there was a puzzle

1124
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: piece like like completing that, you know.

1125
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so funny.

1126
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: It's so fun to fantasize about these things.

1127
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: I know, because and I'll tell you what, it's a

1128
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: lot more fun then going on the actual dates talking

1129
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: about how many and shit totally because like again, like

1130
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: it's like we're talking about earlier about like you know,

1131
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: gay guys not supporting other gay guys. It's like, yeah,

1132
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: but wouldn't it be fun to think about one that

1133
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: does you know what I mean, and they do exist.

1134
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Not to say that every time a song like Manchild

1135
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: by Sabrina Carpenter comes out that I'm not absolutely down

1136
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: to ride load the shotgun, let's go into town, you

1137
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I am down to talk

1138
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: about how many and shit like it went in little

1139
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: tiny fun flairs. But in terms of a life ideology,

1140
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: I had to, and you know, I think we all

1141
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: have to at a certain point, like clock the stories

1142
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: that we've been telling ourselves and being like, maybe I'm

1143
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: not helping myself by consistently telling myself the same story.

1144
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: Because not everyone is the person that love bombed you.

1145
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: Not everyone is the person that cheated on you. Not

1146
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: everyone is the person that you know stole your money.

1147
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know why that was the third thing?

1148
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Have you been pilfered by a man? No body know

1149
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: people that have yikes. Someone that we know was dating

1150
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: someone it was found out was only dating them so

1151
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: that they could finance projects of theirs, and then they bailed.

1152
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: Like people are sick.

1153
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: Well, there's one fucking person out there who has never

1154
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: dated me, but he owes me money. You got to

1155
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: tell me after I gotta tell you, no, I follow

1156
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: it up after years and you know who it is.

1157
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I do know who it is? And can I

1158
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: tear something? That's crazy?

1159
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: I emailed again. I was like, Hey, where's my money?

1160
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: And if I see him out in these streets.

1161
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: Say it, say it. It's on site site. Man, why

1162
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: are you not paying me four hundred dollars?

1163
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not confrontational at all in moments like this,

1164
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: I have no problem bring it up. And this person's

1165
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: avoided me out in the public, and I'm like, dude, well,

1166
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: of course, how much money is it? Like a seven

1167
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: hundred dollars? Yeah, see, that's not a small amount at all.

1168
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: I want seven hundred dollars please.

1169
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1170
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: That is owed to me in the form of services

1171
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: and lodging that I was providing to you, and that

1172
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: was agreed upon God whatever.

1173
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: You know. You know what's a crazy thing about me?

1174
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: I have the I had the instinct. For three quarters

1175
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: of a second. I was like, I'll just send him

1176
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: the money. Then I was like, no, it's not about that. No,

1177
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: it's the principle of it is the principle of pleasure.

1178
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: One of the great songs I feel like people are

1179
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: gonna be furious if we don't address, and just like that, okay, address,

1180
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: and just like that we have to address, and just

1181
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: like that one thing, I'll say I loved the choice

1182
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: for the virgin nun played by Rosie o'donald to say

1183
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: I've never been to New York before in a New

1184
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: York accent. Ah, that's how I knew we were still cooking,

1185
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean for ros o'donald to just

1186
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: launch I've never been to New York before, like in

1187
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: that accent as a virgin nun, lesbian nun who focks Miranda.

1188
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Like more of that, like if I'm behind the wheel,

1189
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: my foot is on the gas for more of that.

1190
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: Right, I am really disoriented by the aid and stuff.

1191
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: Gotta say, so, this five year thing is loose and

1192
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: then he shows up for a random thing because he

1193
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: was just in town unannounced, comes to the house like

1194
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: a lot of things need some sort of realist texture there,

1195
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: and it just there's it's just a slippery fantasy, which

1196
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: is I guess what Sex and the City always kind

1197
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: of was. But then at the same time, there were

1198
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: moments of that show that were truly for lack of

1199
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: a better word like gritty.

1200
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: They've got Carrie in a long distance relationship dealing with rats.

1201
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: I said, I don't see this from my girl. It's

1202
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: hard when you have a character that you know always

1203
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: smarter than this, and we're watching her go through this,

1204
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, look, I understand, like I have. I've

1205
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: been there with really trying to make it work with

1206
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: the guy that you believe is the one, but at

1207
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: a certain point, like she's too old for this shit.

1208
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: And I wonder if it's like, Okay, we're building up

1209
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: to like her losing patience with this kind of domesticity

1210
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: and then this breaks off of Aiden and then she

1211
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: goes out into the dating world again. But I don't

1212
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: know that two episodes in a row of home maintenance

1213
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: is this thing that is Yeah, I.

1214
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: Think, but I think we are because this guy that's

1215
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: coming in to do her backyard had they had a

1216
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: lot of sexual attention, and I was just like, oh,

1217
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: what they've done is they're they're essentially putting in an

1218
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: Aiden who's actually available, because didn't you feel he gave Aiden?

1219
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean l o el at that hair

1220
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: and then the just the belt being loose off of

1221
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: it off of a loop like I'm like, okay, this

1222
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: is so telegraphed.

1223
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, he's aiden. Aiden has come in

1224
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: and suddenly there's an Aiden there that can be available

1225
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: to her, and I'm hoping she jumps his bones quick,

1226
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: like right quick. I just I need Carrie to be

1227
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: doing more sex in the city. That's that's what I

1228
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: want from it. That's what that's what we all want.

1229
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: And you know what, I love the the Miranda plot

1230
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: line of she fucks the virgin None. I was like, yes,

1231
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: miss like that. This feels like it Okay. Any feelings, thoughts,

1232
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: things you want to say about The Wicked for a

1233
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: good trailer, she hit the web hard.

1234
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to say that the Wicked trailer is

1235
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: but a glimpse.

1236
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what can I say? I can't I love

1237
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: I love Ruler Culture number ninety the trailer trailers, but

1238
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: a glimpse. That's all we can say about that.

1239
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: I want to say that Alphab's hair literally coming down

1240
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: is a sligh to me.

1241
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: I think that. I'm so I'm looking for a big

1242
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: piece of art to put over my new couch, and

1243
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: I think that Albaba with her hair down, I think

1244
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: I would like a let's say eighty by thirty. God,

1245
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: that's a huge piece of state an art for my

1246
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: living room, which is Alphaba with her hair down, having

1247
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: just like fucked it up. I need that.

1248
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: Eighty inches is almost I would say seven feet.

1249
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh it's so big. Seven feet. So right now I'm

1250
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I hired an interior designer and I fucking

1251
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: love her. I'm so excited and we're talking about like,

1252
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: so you have to make a big decision once you

1253
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: put in your couch. It's like when you think about

1254
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: what's going to go above it, is it like a

1255
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: lot of different things? Is it shelving, is it asymmetry

1256
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: or is it one big art?

1257
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: I think you want one big art. I think I

1258
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: want one big art.

1259
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: And I'm joking that it's Alphaba, But am I Can

1260
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: you imagine if I if I if Trade came over

1261
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: here and they're like, hey, so excited we finally connected. Yeah,

1262
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: that was really good meal and drinks as well. I

1263
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the film we saw and when we ice

1264
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: skated on our date, excited to go into your apartment

1265
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: opens the door comes in, Dick a little hard sees

1266
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: Alphaba on the wall.

1267
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: What's the craziest core you've you've you've seen Trade have

1268
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: when they've hosted.

1269
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: This is a good question. I have an answer, so immediate.

1270
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: What is what if Bowen Yang? What is the craziest

1271
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: core you've seen Trade display? Sweet older gentleman in Midtown.

1272
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: I walk in and.

1273
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: There's no inch of wall in this apartment that was

1274
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: not covered in like a plastic I should say, like

1275
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: a little tiny sculptural disney.

1276
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's so rough in a way.

1277
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: In a way because and by the way, I am

1278
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: not unreceptive to that, but it was, you know, you

1279
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: love us. It was a maximalism to a degree that

1280
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: I was like, this is this is a lot? And

1281
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: he was like, I know, it's a lot. I was like,

1282
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: it's a lot.

1283
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: You weren't ready much less horny for it. Oh wow,

1284
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: so you actually were? Okay.

1285
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: I I looked past it, but on the way out,

1286
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: I was like, God, damn, that's a giant moleficent, you know,

1287
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: like it was.

1288
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: It was. It was that kind of thing.

1289
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: I was like, this is the Ryan Murphy's grotesquerie.

1290
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess I have two one none

1291
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: none as specific as that, but one I went over

1292
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: a guy's apartment to hook up, and I was he

1293
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: had so much art hung up and it was kind

1294
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: of beautiful. But everything I asked about, he's like, oh,

1295
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: what's this? He told me that his ex boyfriend had

1296
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: hung it up. Shut up. He's like, oh yeah, my

1297
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend hung that up. You can leave that out.

1298
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my ex boyfriend put that on that wall.

1299
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this this is a picture that my ex

1300
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: boyfriend framed. I was just like, what, what about the

1301
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: contents of the picture. It was always secondary so that

1302
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: and then one time I took it doggy from someone

1303
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: in a room that was a hoarders room. It was

1304
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: I just it's like when you you meet someone in

1305
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: there incredibly put together and you're like, well, there's no

1306
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: way that it's gonna be two feet of clothes on

1307
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: the ground that we have to climb over. If you're

1308
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: even thinking about having someone come over, there has to

1309
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: be a path to the bed. Yeah, oh yeah, you

1310
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, if there's no path to

1311
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: the bed, there's no path forward. That's actually real Coach

1312
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: number forty. If there's no path to the bed, there

1313
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: is no path forward. Some of these girls the bedding

1314
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: is barely on, like the just just the sheets are

1315
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: just like you know, I don't have to have a

1316
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: full bedding set, but sometimes the Mattres protector is like

1317
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: halfway off and I go, oh, well we should figure

1318
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: this out. Also, yes, and what do you feel about

1319
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: pageantry with a towel on the bed? No? No, I'm

1320
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of like, can we not? Like I don't I

1321
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: don't want to fuck on a towel.

1322
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: No. Although I did have the algorithm work, it's work

1323
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 2: on me once and I bought one of those like

1324
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: those like coum throws.

1325
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: Like anal sex throw, like a com throw.

1326
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: I've used it once, but it does kind of break

1327
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: it where I'm like hold on, hold on, and I

1328
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: got to like fish it out of the closet and

1329
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: put it.

1330
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: Out uh huh uh huh.

1331
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: And it's a nice feeling. And it's not a towel,

1332
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: for God's sake.

1333
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: No, I mean, one time I'm getting fucked by a

1334
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: guy and trust me, like I've taken care of this.

1335
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm in the anal sex game now almost

1336
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years, we're we're good at this. So

1337
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like around twenty seven twenty eight, you kind

1338
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: of you kind of learn like, Okay, I'm not the

1339
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: age where I can just like hop on Dix anymore.

1340
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's not always a perfect science.

1341
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: But now I'm at the point where like if I'm

1342
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: going to be bottoming, like, don't worry about it. I've

1343
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: figured it out. And if there if something goes down,

1344
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: like it's not crazy, like we're all adults here whatever.

1345
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: So I was, you know, recently, not recently, about a

1346
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: year ago, like I was like, uh, can I fuck you?

1347
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: And I was like yes, and then he's like we

1348
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: should get a towel. I'm like, it's really okay, and

1349
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: he was like, let's get a towel at my at

1350
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: my house and I'm like no, I'm like, what about

1351
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: looking at me in my beautiful eyes? Says I'm in

1352
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: a ship everywhere. I don't think I was giving that,

1353
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: and I don't think I give that. I'm one of

1354
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: those gay guys that's like I don't farre. Ask Jared,

1355
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't fart. You don't far dated me a year.

1356
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm one of those I don't fart gays, Like I

1357
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: don't like it.

1358
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: Because anytime I far you really get scandalized.

1359
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: I have what I would describe as a full body response.

1360
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: But you're far. Its sound like an angry Egyptian king.

1361
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're pretty bad. I should get that chat yours.

1362
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: Yours are the loudest sounds on on the on the

1363
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: scale of sound, and mine are silent. But I can't

1364
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: believe not saying this, but they're bad. See you too far? No,

1365
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: that was just for you. I really don't fart.

1366
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: The only reason I have a butthole is for sex

1367
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: promise promise entrance only.

1368
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: Anyways, But I was so much I was like, shut up,

1369
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you it's fine.

1370
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: No, that's that's disgusting. Now get out. You're not fucking me.

1371
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, okay, let me get up and

1372
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: get it. Like I'm like, I'm telling you it's fine.

1373
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: Oh so if we're in my house and I say

1374
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, totally. Oh I don't like that,

1375
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: And just like that we've arrived at I don't think so, honey,

1376
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: it's time. Yeah, this is our segment where we take

1377
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:43,879
Speaker 1: one minute to really take the piss out of something

1378
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: in culture. And I have something? Do you have something?

1379
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: I do have something. Okay, this is great. This is

1380
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: Matt Rodgers's I don't think so honey, as time starts now, I.

1381
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: Don't think so honey that the actress Jen Lyon is

1382
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: not a household name. So I watched The English Teacher

1383
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,879
Speaker 1: again and so enjoyed it. And she does the best

1384
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: guest acting in a comedy performance I have ever seen.

1385
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: Literally start the conversation right now. That needs to be

1386
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: an Emmy nomination for gen Lyon in English Teacher. This

1387
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: performance is funny, It was layered, it was everything, and

1388
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: I was like, where have I seen her before? The

1389
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: answer everywhere. She was on the show Clause, which was

1390
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: an underrated show with Nisi Nash. It was a Nissi

1391
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: Nash vehicle that also had a really great performance from

1392
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: Kruci Tran. By the way, like this show was gold

1393
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: and then you'll peel back the layers and you realize

1394
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: gen Lyon slays it in so many things. This is

1395
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: one of the funniest, most like complex, like I am

1396
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: s depths giving actresses that's out there and I need

1397
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: her to be known and I need her to be

1398
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: cast in all things. I don't think so honey that

1399
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: she's not.

1400
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: And that's one minute thank you, but also she is

1401
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,480
Speaker 2: but also she is, so it's like it's yeah, she's

1402
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: this is what we call, you know, a rising star.

1403
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to serve on the jury of

1404
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: the Gotham TV Awards and I did Supporting Performance in

1405
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: a Comedy Series and that was one of the reasons

1406
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 1: why I was rewatching English Teacher because Sean Patton was nominated.

1407
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,480
Speaker 1: He's excellent. We ultimately gave the award to Pirna Jaganathan

1408
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: from Deli Boys, a show that study wrote for, and

1409
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: she's also great on. But I feel like people aren't

1410
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: talking about and it's a really great show. So basically

1411
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: I come here to say, watch those shows that you've

1412
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: been meeting to watch that people have been telling you about,

1413
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: because they've got stuff like this gen Lion performance which

1414
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,520
Speaker 1: just affected me in such a way and I was laughing,

1415
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: I laugh out loud at that show, like the kids

1416
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: in it are It's the best like kid acting I've

1417
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: seen in a really long time. Mmmmm, oh that's so fun. No,

1418
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: just to have like authentic teens like saying these lines

1419
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: that are really really well written comedy, but the way

1420
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: that say it is so dropped in like it feels real.

1421
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like kids are acting, which is so hard.

1422
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Shout out if a lot of plays.

1423
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 2: We were pointing out to Tony's oh yeah, and shows

1424
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: taking place at schools in the classroom. A shout out

1425
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: to anyone who runs a production or does has to

1426
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: corral children.

1427
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: Of any kind. You deserve a billion dollars. Okay, when

1428
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: are you seeing John Proferter as the Villain?

1429
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. I'm seeing it on the fourteenth, right

1430
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 2: before we go to France. I can't wait for you

1431
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: to see it and talk to you about it. I'm

1432
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: so excited.

1433
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: Okay, So Bowen Yang you had and I don't think

1434
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: so honey to do mm hmm. And I'm excited about

1435
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: that to hear it. Great, this is Bowe Yang's. I

1436
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't

1437
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: think so honey.

1438
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: Having a matinee on Tony Sunday, I think was making

1439
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: these poor people. Some of them love to do it

1440
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: and shout out, but I say, you give them a

1441
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: day to pamper themselves up to really, you know, get

1442
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: the micro current machine going on the face or get

1443
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: the little whax that they might have not had time

1444
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: during the rest of the week when they have seven

1445
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: other shows, maybe six other shows. Let's say, fine, they

1446
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: don't have a Sunday night show. I just think these

1447
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: people deserve a day off, a third and dated day

1448
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: off on Tony Sunday.

1449
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, you know what I was thinking.

1450
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: Last night, my girl Audra changes into the Mama Rose

1451
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: get up, then has to We know Broadway loves a

1452
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 2: quick change. These actors love a quick change. That has

1453
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: to quick change back into her gorgeous gown. I say,

1454
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: take the stress out. I used to love a quick change,

1455
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: but now I go, don't touch, let me just sit

1456
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: because you want to just these people deserve to just sit.

1457
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: I know they're working with a lot of you know,

1458
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 2: inertia and momentum, and they have to keep moving, but

1459
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: just I give them a moment to just be still.

1460
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I couldn't believe that that was

1461
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: the second time Audre had done that that day, in

1462
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: that day, giving one hundred and ten percent, like you

1463
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: were saying, I was so shook by the end of

1464
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: that PHO. Now, I think if you haven't seen it,

1465
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: you if you listen back to when I first saw it,

1466
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: which was in previews, you kind of get what I

1467
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: mean when I say, we're gonna go on Wednesday. By

1468
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: the way, we're taking Sudie. I can't wait. I'm so

1469
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: excited for you to see it. It's great. But you

1470
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: get what I mean when I say that I believe

1471
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: that this angle on Rose was talking more about her

1472
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: as someone who was like mentally ill, Like you're not

1473
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: frightened of Rose in Roses Turn, You're frightened for her, Yes,

1474
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: And by the end I was like, I was like, yeah,

1475
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: I felt her anguish in a way where I was

1476
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: just like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, like in such

1477
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: a crazy way. And also, she does eight shows a week.

1478
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: She doesn't have an understudy going on, not one day,

1479
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of the other people can't say that

1480
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: she does eight. She does eight. That is Odra Mick duh,

1481
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: fucking legend, fucking legend, fucking legend for all time.

1482
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: And I thought just the right amount of addressing it

1483
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 2: at the show last night with Oprah saying a lot

1484
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:07,440
Speaker 2: of people talking.

1485
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was absolutely lovely to get to know you better,

1486
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 1: I really got to know you and your sexual experiences.

1487
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: Taking a dog in a messy room with with with

1488
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: not without a clear path to the bed. That's that's hiking.

1489
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: That's a hike. Doggy in a messy room without a

1490
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: clear path to the bed, Sabrina Carpenter lyric, Uh huh.

1491
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, we end every episode with a song

1492
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: mansal why around a right.

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