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Speaker 1: watching or not. Plenty of players to root for in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and credit the league for making them

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Speaker 1: available on microphones. Last night during the All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: how can you not like Fernando Tati's junior, Chris Bryan,

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Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman. They had great sense of humors on display

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Speaker 1: last night. Had an interview with Shohyotani translator. Angels Starr

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Speaker 1: didn't really deliver on the field, even though pitched a

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Speaker 1: scoreless inning, he got to win, but that constant smiled

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Speaker 1: the fact that he was available. He was there for

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Speaker 1: home run Derby. Some of the bright spots for Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball, and baseball has its fair share of critics

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it's fair. Style of play is

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Speaker 1: a night deal. We've seen enough strikeouts for an entire

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Speaker 1: season already at the All Star break, but the Stars

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Speaker 1: go a long way in defining a sport. If you

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Speaker 1: look at the NBA, that almost seems to be the

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Speaker 1: model that Major League Baseball is trying to emulate, and

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Speaker 1: they should. Last night's All Star Game proved that they

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Speaker 1: might be onto something. You have tattoos Junior, vlad Guerrero Junior,

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Speaker 1: you have Otani. You have some names here, at least

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Speaker 1: names that resonate, resonate with younger fans, because that's what

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Speaker 1: this is all about. We were sitting around here earlier

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Speaker 1: today before the show, and we sounded like old men.

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Speaker 1: I remember back at our day, we could name all

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Speaker 1: the All Stars, we could name the guys who were

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Speaker 1: on the bench. Okay, it was really important to you.

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Speaker 1: Back then. You didn't have as many distractions. You didn't

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Speaker 1: didn't know anything about girls at the time. And you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe today's younger fan knows who these players are. All

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Speaker 1: of these players. You know, you're playing video games with them.

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Speaker 1: We used to collect baseball cards, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: easy to go back in our day. Okay, back in

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Speaker 1: our day, but kids today, if you're going to sell

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Speaker 1: the game to them, that's really what's important. What are

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Speaker 1: care about? Do they love bat flips? Do they love

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Speaker 1: the style of Tattoos Junior or Vlad Guerrero Junior? Are

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Speaker 1: they into Showhyotani Like, these are all fascinating personalities for me.

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Speaker 1: But if a younger audience, a younger generations not consuming it,

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Speaker 1: it's not great for the sport. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the target demo, you know of what Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: You know, you're looking at mid fifties. As a baseball fan,

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Speaker 1: you everybody wants the younger audience here. I think this

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Speaker 1: was a really good week for Major League Baseball. You know,

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Speaker 1: they they've survived this spider tack, you know, with doctoring

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Speaker 1: moment for Showhyotani. And you get Vlad Guerrero Junior, who's

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Speaker 1: twenty two years of age. You got Tatis Junior, who's

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Speaker 1: the same age. They grew up together, their dads played

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Speaker 1: in the major leagues. It was fun. You had Pete

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Speaker 1: Alonzo from a big market with the Mets winning home

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Speaker 1: run derby. Again, I think major League Baseball has a

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Speaker 1: lot to build on here. They're going to take away

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Speaker 1: the seven inning, seven inning double headers next year and

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Speaker 1: some of the things that the commissioner has talked about.

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Speaker 1: They did this during the pandemic. I get it. Now

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Speaker 1: we move on. What's the next step from Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 1: And really, I think it's important for the legacy of

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Speaker 1: this commissioner. How are you growing the game? It seems

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Speaker 1: like everybody's still making money. Players is still getting paid

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Speaker 1: great salaries here. I don't know how the All Star

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Speaker 1: ratings were, but if you go back when we were

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Speaker 1: lot of people watching. Well, there weren't as many options

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Speaker 1: to be watching something else. We had three channels. Of

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Speaker 1: to see the overnights. But major League Baseball has some

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Speaker 1: positives here. You got good teams, in big markets. That's

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Speaker 1: major League Baseball has had a pretty good week. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Shoeotani's manager, Joe Madden. He'll join us,

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Speaker 1: coming up here in a little bit next hour. And

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Speaker 1: who else do we have on the show? Russ will say, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Junior the third Because it's been a while

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Speaker 1: the old Russ where he doesn't really say much. He's,

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Speaker 1: you know, very nice during the interviews. Back then, it

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Speaker 1: his chest, and he did exactly that. He got it

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Speaker 1: status within the Seattle Seahawks organization and that sort of

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Speaker 1: it didn't take long for them to go, hey, Russ,

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Speaker 1: the end of that conversation with Pete Carroll or John

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Speaker 1: Schneider said go honks, but he'll join us coming up

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Speaker 1: in the final hour of the show. Age seven seven

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Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. We have Game four,

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Speaker 1: pivotal Game four used to be pivotal Game five. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it's a pivotal Game four because if the

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Speaker 1: Suns win this game, then they're gonna win this series.

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Speaker 1: If Milwaukee wins that, maybe we're headed to a seven

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Speaker 1: game series. I had people saying it was going to

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Speaker 1: be a sweep after the first two games. A lot

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Speaker 1: of media people Nilukia has no answer for Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: and Devin Booker. Now Phoenix has no answer for the

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Speaker 1: Greek freak. How are they going to stop Jannis? We're

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Speaker 1: so flip floppy, you know, just remember USA basketball. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, they're not gonna win the gold medal as

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Speaker 1: a disaster, and then they win last night. Nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about it. They and they beat a really good

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Speaker 1: Do they have any team unity chemistry? Do they move

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Speaker 1: Look pretty easy for a Team USA. It's still not formed.

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Speaker 1: That's not the that's not the team we're going to

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Speaker 1: see in Tokyo. But we shouldn't we the United States

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Speaker 1: These guys who played together, pretty good team, got some

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Speaker 1: NBA players, and they're not intimidated by Team USA. Intimidation

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Speaker 1: used to play a really large part in Olympic basketball

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Speaker 1: because this was a team that could walk in and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're playing for silver or bronze

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Speaker 1: because Team USA is going to win. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world has seen everybody. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: have better players, but I think that you could probably

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Speaker 1: get a team. If I said to lebron hey, can

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Speaker 1: you kind of drum up some all stars to play

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Speaker 1: with you cant Can you give me an all NBA team?

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Speaker 1: Can you give me Steph Curry? To join you. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see who else would would he get? Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: is going to be on the team. I believe is

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Speaker 1: on the Olympic team. Devin Booker, Yes, McLevin. I thought Paul,

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Speaker 1: did Paul he was on the team, and then he said,

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Speaker 1: All right? But if I said to Lebron, how about

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Speaker 1: you come up with a team here Anthony Davis, assuming

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Speaker 1: he's going to be healthy, Zion, how does Zion not

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Speaker 1: make this team? Or Julius Randall. Julius Randall's fine, but

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Speaker 1: Kevin Love should not be on the Olympic team. Nice

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Speaker 1: guy should not be on the Olympic team. This is

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Speaker 1: where a younger player like Zion or Julius Randall should

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Speaker 1: Kevin Love. He's not. He's not an Olympian. It's not personal,

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Speaker 1: just a fact. He should not be on that team. Now,

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Speaker 1: are they gonna win with him? Yes, they'll win with him.

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Speaker 1: Can they win without him? Yeah? They could win without him.

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Speaker 1: But if you had if I said, okay, Lebron, you

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Speaker 1: get Jimmy Butler, you get Paul George, you get Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry, James Harden, and Anthony Davis. Yeah, McLeman, do

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Speaker 1: you want James Harden. Sorry, I'm just gonna say like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have five all NBA players. I don't want one

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Speaker 1: don't you know what. I've come around a little bit

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Speaker 1: on James Harden. I thought he showed me more with

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Speaker 1: the nets, with his ability to be a distributor and

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Speaker 1: not ball dominant. But he seems to have this Game

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Speaker 1: seven meant well that I just got to keep him

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Speaker 1: out of a Game seven. That's it. We gotta end

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Speaker 1: every series in six games. I can't get him to

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Speaker 1: a seventh game because he usually doesn't go well. Yes, Paul,

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Speaker 1: maybe Lebron can find his own country and just buy

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Speaker 1: it started, you know, have his own team. He's got

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Speaker 1: the island of malt Get a bunch of those guys

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Speaker 1: over in Malta. They'll crush. Here's Chris Paul and how

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Speaker 1: the Sons will respond in tonight's Game four. Everybody on.

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Speaker 1: Our team took the loss hard, as we should. You know,

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Speaker 1: we never go into a game expecting to lose. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you show me somebody who expects to lose, I'll

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Speaker 1: show you a loser. We use yesterday, we'll use today

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the other thing that I found interesting.

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Speaker 1: Monnie Williams, the head coach of the Sons, didn't want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the free throw disparity in Game three,

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Speaker 1: but he did talk about the free throw disparity while

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Speaker 1: not wanting to talk about the free throw disparity, And

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Speaker 1: then he was questioned about talking about and not talking

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Speaker 1: about the free throw disparity. After last game you said

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Speaker 1: you didn't want to complain about the fouls, but then

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Speaker 1: you do the next sentence, I'm curious the reason for

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Speaker 1: doo like a job or no, no, no, I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: The reason for bringing that up in a press conference

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Speaker 1: is what? Well, somebody asked me the question like how

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Speaker 1: can I help be a So I answered it, and

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Speaker 1: then the free throw dispare is what it is, So

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Speaker 1: that's what I did. They had one player with seventeen

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Speaker 1: free throws we had sixteen. That's not complaining, that's stating facts.

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Speaker 1: Da is DeAndrea Aiden. You know, looking back on Game three,

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee was aggressive. They got shots, you know, near the hoop.

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Speaker 1: And this is what the Greek freak does. He can

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Speaker 1: put you in foul trouble if he gets to the hoop.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised you can say there's a free

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Speaker 1: throw disparity and the Greek freak is your go to guy.

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Speaker 1: Had the ball and he's going inside and he got found.

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Speaker 1: So I don't have any problem with that. And if

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Speaker 1: Monty went this is gamesmanship. Phil Jackson used to do

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Speaker 1: this all the time. I don't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the guys that spoke him about it. And so since

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Speaker 1: then I really haven't spoken Albert. I knew he was

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Speaker 1: upset leaving, and I understand that completely, and I don't

427
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Speaker 1: blame him. However, it's worked out wonderfully for him and

428
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Speaker 1: wonderfully for us. It was the right thing to do

429
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Speaker 1: for everybody involved, and sometimes it takes a little time

430
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Speaker 1: for people to realize or understand that. Wisham I thought

431
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: it was great through that he was able to stay

432
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, didn't have to pick up and leave, family,

433
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Speaker 1: was not uprooted, all those kind of things that you

434
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Speaker 1: would that makes it difficult. So it's a win win,

435
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Speaker 1: absolutely for everybody involved. And we're going to see him again.

436
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: He's going to play well against us. I absolutely believe that,

437
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's great. I think it's great for baseball,

438
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Speaker 1: So win win. The rule changes. The commissioner said we

439
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Speaker 1: were going to take away the seven inning double headers

440
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Speaker 1: and not going to put a runner on second base

441
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Speaker 1: next season. What do you what do you think of

442
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: those decisions. Well, first of all, the renorant second base

443
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: has been a thorn the whole time. I'm not to

444
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: expedite our game just for the sake of expedition. I

445
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: don't understand that. I don't get it. And this is

446
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Speaker 1: one of those things that our game is based in

447
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: their heat and tradition. Why do you want to subtract

448
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to take tradition out of everything anymore either,

449
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: can't you just don't want to microwave everybody wants to

450
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: microwave everything. Let the game be played. Yeah, there's going

451
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: to be some really uncomfortable that stink when you have

452
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: to stay there seventeen innings and lose possibly horrible method,

453
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Speaker 1: horrible moment. But that's how this thing is done. So

454
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: let's let's do that again. And that's part of what's happening.

455
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Speaker 1: The front offices are really freaked out about this stuff

456
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Speaker 1: because then you have to use pitchers more than you

457
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Speaker 1: would like to, or you have to shuttle guys between

458
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Speaker 1: Triple A back to the big leagues to boast of

459
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Speaker 1: yourself for the next day. Those are the problems. That's

460
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Speaker 1: what the real issue is here. It's not about the

461
00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: game itself, and as a kid, I loved extraenings. If

462
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Speaker 1: the game was beging to be played a little bit

463
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: more or longer, I would love that. I'd understand ours school,

464
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Speaker 1: and I understand ours work, I get all that stuff,

465
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: but that's what the game is, so a I'd love

466
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Speaker 1: to see that go away. The seven inning doubleheader is interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm good with going back to nine, but I really

468
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Speaker 1: would hope that they don't go day night. That's the

469
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: part that really is the kicker. I understand, I understand

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Speaker 1: the game. I understand it's probably not going to go away.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to make it palatable to all

472
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Speaker 1: of us play two nine in any games that haven't

473
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Speaker 1: concurrent game over a half hour later game two, that

474
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Speaker 1: would be the bettert way it used to be when

475
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: we were right yeah growing o, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: that's better for everybody. Um, you know, when it when

477
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Speaker 1: it comes to what the game is now and the

478
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Speaker 1: strategy now, can you see somebody being counterintuitive, you know,

479
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Speaker 1: like Whitey Herzog Saint Louis Cardinal team. Could you could

480
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Speaker 1: you build a team on speed defense, putting the ball

481
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Speaker 1: in play and still and having a good pitching staff.

482
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Speaker 1: Is somebody going to come along and go, we can't

483
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Speaker 1: compete with big markets and getting sluggers. We're going to

484
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Speaker 1: do this. I think sluggers are going to be part

485
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Speaker 1: of it. I still do. I don't think that's going

486
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Speaker 1: to go away with white he did there. I mean

487
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: that was I'm a big whitey guy. Why do you

488
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Speaker 1: work for the Angels for a bid? And that's where

489
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I got to know him. I thought that was I

490
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: thought he was brilliant. I'd like I've always said I'd

491
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Speaker 1: like to have at all. Why can't you have a

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Speaker 1: couple of sluggers. You know, George Hendrick was on that team,

493
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Speaker 1: my buddy because he was on those particular teams. Jackie

494
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: Clark stepped in there. They had some pop, but they're

495
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Speaker 1: able to really listen when you or you're preparing a

496
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Speaker 1: game and the other dugout, you know that other team

497
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: could fly and they're going to put pressure on you

498
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Speaker 1: on defense all the time. That's an unsettling feeling. That's

499
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Speaker 1: worse to me in a dug out than a team

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Speaker 1: that has two or three guys that may take you deep.

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00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: I think you could mitigate that a lot more easily

502
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: than the team that's constantly putting pressure on you that

503
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: bothers everybody on the field. I love that style and

504
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Speaker 1: I would like the Angels to be that style. My

505
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: theme for this year play It's like play it like

506
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Speaker 1: it's nineteen eighty five. I've got this cool little shirt

507
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: made up about it. And the point would be to

508
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Speaker 1: play the game more completely as opposed to again walk, strikeout, homer, etc.

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Speaker 1: So I think it could all be done, I really do.

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Speaker 1: And I think it comes down to drafting. We just

511
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Speaker 1: went through the draft. I know we took pictures, which

512
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: is absolutely necessary. But I've even talked with you. I've

513
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Speaker 1: seen in a couple years ago and they went to

514
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Speaker 1: forty rounds and I asked them, why wouldn't you take

515
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: the rounds thirty to forty just speed guys, just guys

516
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Speaker 1: that could absolutely fly, and see if you could build

517
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Speaker 1: them from there. And even if you hit on one

518
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: a year, my goodness, after four years, you've got four

519
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: guys that could fly. And it's kind of tent amount

520
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: to what the Kansas City Royals Baseball Academy used to

521
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: be like in the seventies, which I still think was

522
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: a brilliant idea, and that would be something cool to

523
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: come on back too. But you've got you have to

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Speaker 1: draft and build and nurture this kind of pattern if

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Speaker 1: that's what you want to see, and I'd love to

526
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: see that. But you know what that pressure was like

527
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: when Ricky Henderson would get on for a space Willie McGee,

528
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it just it changed the atmosphere of a game.

529
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: It felt like, and I know you can have a

530
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: bomb and somebody can hit a four hundred and fifty

531
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: feet there was something unnerving about somebody on first base

532
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: that was that was that slow water torture and it

533
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: gets into the picture and then the catcher and then

534
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: the manager everybody. I don't know, I missed that element there,

535
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that comes back that you know.

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00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: The stolen base, No, you're right one hundred percent, and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where it went away. It went away

538
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: because of analytics. That's why it went away. And that's

539
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: that's another part of the game we could talk about

540
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: for another hour where I am an advocate, but I'm

541
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Speaker 1: telling you analytics has really kind of squashed the stolen

542
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: base because I would just be quite frank with you

543
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: when when a guy would get thrown out on the

544
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: basis on a steel attempt. I promise you postgame, somebody

545
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: from the front office would come down to talk to

546
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: the manager about what happened there. You know, we don't

547
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: want to make outs on the basis, And then the

548
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: manager has to go talk to the coach, who then

549
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: has to go talk to the player. I mean, and

550
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: this is and so about that. But by the time

551
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: that all gets done, these guys lose their aggressiveness, their certainness,

552
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: and you have to be all of that in order

553
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: to be a great based stealer. So there's a lot

554
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: of stuff that's that's gone away based on a trickle

555
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: down from analytics from the front office down to the field.

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Speaker 1: Give me your favorite minor league managing lifestyle stoy. Wow,

557
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I loved. I love the road.

558
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: I love the right on the bus weirdly and I

559
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: drive one. Now, Jay, my wife's right here with me

560
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: right now. We have a forty five foot Winnebago grant

561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: to our Grand Tour RV. I love the road. You're

562
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: in the Winnebago now, No, that's parked somewhere here. We're

563
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: in actually in an hotel room. Okay, we're here we're

564
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: in here since I got my kids and my grandkids

565
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: are here. But I you know, as a man of

566
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: you sit in the first seat, right first seat up

567
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: in the front of the bus, right on the right side.

568
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: And as you asked that question, I could see myself

569
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Speaker 1: in the Texas League. Now, the Texas League goes in

570
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: middle of Texas. In your division, you'd have to go

571
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: to El Paso like six and a half seven hours,

572
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: or Beaumont eleven hours, or San Antonio I think was eight,

573
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: or sometimes Jackson, Mississippi, or Little Rock, Arkansas that's ten plus.

574
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: But I'd sit in that front seat, and at that time,

575
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: you had the little cassette player with the fuzzy headphones

576
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: you put on your head, and you'd bring a pill

577
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: in a blank you wrap yourself up, and I'd bring

578
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Speaker 1: a book. I was there, was a voracious reader, and

579
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I loved it. You turn the ac way down and

580
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: your freeze in that front seat, and you'd have to

581
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: sleep and wake up, and you go to some kind

582
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: of truck stop in the middle of the night and

583
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: grab some food and get back on and I promise

584
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: you I'll leave. I left Yankee Stadium a couple of

585
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago, we went a pretty tough game, like one

586
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: or two o'clock in the morning walking out to the bus,

587
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: and I look up and I said, thank you. I

588
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: still have that opportunity to relive those moments that I

589
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: had as a young manager coming up, which if you

590
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: want to romanticize, which I tend to do, that's it.

591
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: And that's the part about the minor leagues that I

592
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: really did enjoy. Weirdly, I was on leagues that has

593
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: tremendously long bus rides. But you didn't have a Durham moment,

594
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: did you? I didn't. I did him before? Yeah, when

595
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: I was in Boulder, Colorado? Would we did that before?

596
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: He did that? What you need in me? Stan Jacobowski

597
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: and Rod Boxburger, who's the dad of Brad Boxburger, were

598
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: in charge of the Colorado University baseball field where the

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00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Boulder Collegians played, and Baldi Muschetti was the owner of

600
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Speaker 1: that team, and Baldi was the guy that got me

601
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: my break. Anyway, we were charge of the field. So

602
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I said, Stanley, he's not giving me any days off.

603
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to play him the catcher and we're

604
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: playing like I'm catching, Like back to back to back doubleheads.

605
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: So I had enough. I said, we're going to flood

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Speaker 1: the field. We did. We went out that day and

607
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I had the night before. You put those things on

608
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: the sprinklers. We have to crank it a little bit

609
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 1: and then them and we left it on all night.

610
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: And we got there the next day and Baldy shows

611
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: up here. What's happened here, Damn Baldi, I don't know.

612
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: The sprinklers got stuck. Well, we got a game tonight,

613
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Speaker 1: I said, I don't think we could get that. Baldi

614
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: brings in a helicopter their funeral foot to get all

615
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: the water off the field, and then me and Stashue

616
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: and Boxy had to go out there, rake the infield,

617
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: go buy sea gaps, then burn it so the infield's

618
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Speaker 1: ready by the end of that. I have to catch

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Speaker 1: that night anyway, So we went through the whole process,

620
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Speaker 1: and I think that's that was nineteen seventy five, so

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Speaker 1: that was pre bull during Man Susan Sarandon wasn't waiting

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Speaker 1: for you, was she? No? No, no, no, she was

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Speaker 1: not Shaw as they said, Joe, great to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you, Thanks for joining us. Good luck. The second

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Speaker 1: half of this season always a pleasure to be with

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Speaker 1: you man. Thank you man. That's Joe Madden Angels manager,

627
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Speaker 1: Shoe Heyotani's manager, but also a three time Baseball Manager

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Speaker 1: of the Year and two time World Series champ. Well

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Speaker 1: take a break. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: like the NFL? Do you like the NFL draft? Quarterbacks? Coaches? Well,

637
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: I talk about it all on the show. I used

638
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: to work for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I

639
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: give you my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that

640
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: goes on the NFL. And you know we're talking college

641
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: football because of how important the draft is year round.

642
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Listen to the Three and Out Podcast with me John

643
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Middlecop on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you

644
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. I mentioned this earlier in this show. Well,

645
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: I'd been mentioning this for years that I wanted the NFL.

646
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: NFL films to go back and tabulate all the sacks

647
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Speaker 1: from the players who played prior to nineteen eighty two,

648
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: when sacks became an official stat. Well, Pro Football Reference

649
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: did that, and from nineteen sixty four to nineteen sixty nine,

650
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Speaker 1: Deacon Jones led the NFL in sacks five times, a

651
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: total of one hundred and fifteen and a half sacks

652
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: in that time period. And I wanted to know how

653
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Speaker 1: many times did quarterbacks drop back and pass? So the

654
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: ratio of sacks two drop backs, it's got to be

655
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: completely different than what you have now. You're dropping back

656
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: thirty forty times a game, Deacon Jones averaged one sack

657
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: every twenty three times the opposing quarterback drop back to pass.

658
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: By comparison, Michael Strahan's record season in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: where he had twenty two and a half sacks, he

660
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: averaged one sack every twenty five times quarterbacks drop back

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00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: to pass. So unofficially, Deacon jones six season run was

662
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: better than the best official single season sack record of

663
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: all time. Another comparison, T J. Watt led the NFL

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Speaker 1: with fifteen sacks last year, one sack every thirty eight

665
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: times at quarterback drop back to pass. Now these are

666
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Speaker 1: un official stats, but at least they have tabulated some

667
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: of these got him up to date with Tacon Joe Owns,

668
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Jack young Blood. There are a lot of great Alan Page,

669
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: a lot of great pass rushers, and I think that

670
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: they were kind of held you a different standard, or

671
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: we forgot about them and you had You had the

672
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to go back and tabulate these sactotals,

673
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: and they should be up to date, because you can't

674
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: say nineteen eighty two is when it officially started. It

675
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't be, all right. Russell Wilson Junior, the third we

676
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: talked to him yesterday after the show and he joined

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Speaker 1: us courtesy of Bows. And here's how we started the interview. Okay,

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00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: February ninth, you join us after the Super Bowl. I'm

679
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: watching the Super Bowl and I thought you looked miserable,

680
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: and then I realized you're probably going, wait a minute,

681
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: why am I not playing in a super Bowl. Then

682
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: we had the interview a couple of days later, February ninth.

683
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: When you hung up the phone with me that day,

684
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Speaker 1: what was the rest of the day like the reaction

685
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: to what you said. Well, the rest of the day,

686
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, started off with it. I had all the

687
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: Man in the Year interviews to do, so that's really

688
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: while we had, you know, the interview with you and

689
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: dan if. I had set that up and all that,

690
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: and and then the rest of the day got interested.

691
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: I would say, the next the next day I got

692
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: interesting or something else. But anyways, you listen, I think

693
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: that anytime you're not playing, you want to be playing

694
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: in that game. You know. This is why I've been

695
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: fortunate to play it twice when one of them and uh,

696
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: and you want to get back and do everything you

697
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: can to get back. And that's what our team is

698
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: trying to do here. And we're excited about the team

699
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: that we have and where we're headed. So we got

700
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: a chance. Okay, wait a minute, let's go back though that.

701
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Do you hear from man, how long does it take

702
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: before the Seahawks call you after the interview with me? Um?

703
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: It was? I don't know, I don't know, maybe a

704
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: couple of hours probably, Okay. I just so you know,

705
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: I didn't plan on bringing this up. I sort of

706
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: stumbled onto it because I just wanted to know why

707
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: you didn't look like you were having a good time

708
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: and then it felt like you you wanted or welcome

709
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get this off your chest. Is that fair? No,

710
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: I know I think that more any thing else. You know,

711
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, we had all the and hear stuff

712
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: that we had to do, and uh, I think more

713
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: anything else. You know, we just had a dialogue conversation,

714
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: and I think it's definitely belout a proportion in terms

715
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: of the moment and what became. Um, you know, it

716
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: was a little unfortunate. But I think one thing else,

717
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I care about. I care

718
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: about winning. You know, That's what I want to do.

719
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: So I just put my clips on every day and

720
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: and that's always been my focus. That's always been my goal,

721
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's to is to win it all and

722
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: and to continue to do that and try to do

723
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: everything we can so um, you know. So anyways, it's

724
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: a it's been it's been a great off season. My

725
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: teammates and I we've a lot of great time getting

726
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: to work in, spending time together and I were excited

727
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: about getting back the ball and playing, you know, and

728
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: your relationship different with the Seahawks, I would say it's stronger.

729
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: I think me and Pete have gotten reven closer. And

730
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: we've always been super close. So, you know, Pete and

731
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I we've always uh, we've always had a great bond.

732
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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, we had to have a

733
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: great heart to heart. You know, he's got goals. I

734
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: have goals. You know, we want to do great things,

735
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, so to to actually you know, really dive

736
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: into those and really talk about you know, you know,

737
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: those those missions of those goals because it was fun.

738
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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, and so I think I think,

739
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, me and me and Coach Carroll's relationship is

740
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: stronger than ever. And I think that's that's the best

741
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: part about it. And and uh and also my teammates,

742
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're pumped about the season and getting

743
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: back to the playing ball and snapping the ball and

744
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns and winning games. Did you ever think you

745
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: were going to be traded in the offseason? And I

746
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: think that anytime it sports, there is a potential of

747
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: being traded, you know, I think there's always a real

748
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to that. But um, you know, I think that

749
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've always wanted to be in Seattle. I've

750
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: always loved being there and it's a place that I've

751
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: always wanted to play, So it's been great. And how

752
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: glad were you that the Aaron Rodgers topic then took

753
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: over and kind of put you on the back burner?

754
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: How what No, when Aaron Rodgers all that talk came up,

755
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, they stopped talking about you and what was

756
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: going on in Seattle is like everybody was, you know,

757
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: then curious about what was going on with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

758
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what's going on there.

759
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: It's not really any of my business. But you know,

760
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: you're not following what's going on with it. How can

761
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: you possibly not follow what's going on with Aaron Rodgers.

762
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you don't you known watch it? Obviously

763
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's you know, interesting in the situation up there,

764
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: but you know it's I don't I don't have any

765
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: inte on that, you know what I mean? With Aaron

766
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think that you know, obviously, he's a

767
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: great player, one of the best ever played the game

768
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: at that position, you know, you know, in disposition, So

769
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, anytime that that's going on, it's it's always

770
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: kind of hectic. And confusing and and uh, you know,

771
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: it makes it difficult for everyone. But I think that uh,

772
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: poblously he's been such a tremendous quarterback his whole career.

773
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, the Seahawks quarterback, joining us on the show.

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Speaker 1: Any benefit upside to seventeen game regular season, Uh, you know,

775
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of awkward. It's kind of

776
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: weird because now you got now you have eight home

777
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: games and and mine away games. Um, so it's kind

778
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: of interesting. You know, I think that, you know, the

779
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing is that, you know, the NFL will obviously

780
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: be able to broadcast a whole other game. You know,

781
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: I would to The biggest you know, kind of interesting

782
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: thing is is that with the playoffs, you know, you

783
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: don't have that that extra week if you're a first

784
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: seed or a second seed or whatever it is. Um,

785
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: I think that's right. So, you know, I think that

786
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of a new, new interesting thing. So, you know,

787
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: put school pressure on the body. The physically, the game

788
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: is such a physical game, you know, but uh, I

789
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: love playing, you know, Sony. Any time we get to

790
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: strap up the cleets and play, that's my favorite thing.

791
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: So I don't mind the seventeen thing, but I think

792
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: it is definitely an interesting dynamic quits playoffs, and that's

793
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: that's more of a challenge for sure. I wonder about

794
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: load management ross for certain players. Do you think we'll

795
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: have that in the NFL? Um No, I don't think so.

796
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll have that in NFL. I mean,

797
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: I think you you kind of have that with certain

798
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: guys who get injured or dinged dub. But for for

799
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I think you're you're your guys who are healthy, and

800
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: you know your premier players. You know, you're I'm assuming

801
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about like the NBA out You've got the

802
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: whole guys out for this and the Yeah, so you know, like,

803
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen in in the NFL,

804
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: at least at this stage, because you know, every game

805
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL it matters so much, account so much

806
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: against the record and playoffs. You know, standings and this

807
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: and that. Right, so you know, mabyn play so many games,

808
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: you know that it is a little bit less of

809
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: a Factor's kind of like Major League Baseball, right you

810
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: play one hundred and sixty two games in one hundred

811
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: eight bus days or whatever it is, you know, so

812
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: guys can catch a break for a second and come

813
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: back and be stronger the next day. Well football, you

814
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: know I'm playing, I'm playing dinged up, I'm playing beat up. You.

815
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: You gotta do what you gotta do, you know. And ultimately,

816
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: you want to be on the field. You want to

817
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: be available. And the guys that can be consistent and available,

818
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: be professional, be ready to play, dominate the game every

819
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: every moment that step on the field, be a be

820
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: a true factor. I think that those are the guys

821
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: who who are are game changers and true true factors

822
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: of the game and making a difference. And so you

823
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: need all those guys, you know. And I got a

824
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: guy like Dwayne Brown is even one of the best

825
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: left tackles in the game. You know, he makes a

826
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: difference when he's in there for me. So I love

827
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: it when he's about out they're blocking for me, you know,

828
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, so you know you always you always want

829
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: to have those those guys. You know, you got the

830
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: guy like a DK Metcalf or Tyle Lockett. You know

831
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: those guys aren't gonna you know, sit out because another game,

832
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, how would you have done

833
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: in the home run Derby. I wouldn't have done what

834
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: uh what what DK didn't All Star game? You know,

835
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Speaker 1: But uh, I think it has been fun. I know,

836
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: the watching trade Man CD hit those run last night

837
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: was amazing. You know, Alonso obviously too. But just thinking

838
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: about Trey Mancini, you know, having cancer, you know, a

839
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: year and a couple of months ago, and now being

840
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, once again an All Star and being the

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00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: player that he is, and and then being at home

842
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: on Derby coming in second. I mean that's the story.

843
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: You know, that was amazing and uh, you know, I

844
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: don't know if the sports world's you know, honoring that

845
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: enough of what Trey Mancini has been able to do.

846
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Speaker 1: But imagine if every five games you have to play

847
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: defensive back and play quarterback the rest of the time,

848
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: like Otani pitches every fifth game, but he's playing every day.

849
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Do you think you could you could do double duty

850
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: like Otani he's doing. Oh, man, I don't know. These

851
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: receivers are pretty talented out there, man. I used to play.

852
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: I used to play cornerback in the day in high school.

853
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: I was I was. I was a good car in

854
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: high school. But I don't these guys out here running

855
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: these routes, they're pretty spectacular. But uh, you know what

856
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: what a TI's doing is. It's crazy to see, you know,

857
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: because he's not just doing it at you know, the

858
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: pro level or you know, anything else. He's doing it

859
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: at the highest highest level possible. And he's doing it

860
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: better than everybody else too. He's one hundred miles an hour,

861
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: you know, eight miles an hour consistently were every's throwing

862
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: and has all the pitches and everything else, striking everybody out.

863
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: But he also got this, I mean, the power that

864
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: he's hitting the ball with and and the poise that

865
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: he hits it with. I mean, he's what's amazing. He's

866
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: watching his stance and how poised he is, you know,

867
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: and how you know when that ball comes, you know,

868
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: going the balls pitched, you know, he's you feel like

869
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: every swing is going to be the right swing, you know,

870
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: feel like he's going to crush it. So it's been

871
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: amazing watching his success. And another story that needs to

872
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: be talked about and told more. What are you doing

873
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: with both? Yeah? Super pumped obviously to be with Bose.

874
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I've been with both pretty much the whole career. It's

875
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: been amazing, you know, just my relationship with them because

876
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, Dan, the music is in

877
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: my family, you know, obviously with Pierra, and we're always

878
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: jamming out, always listening to music. So it's just an organic,

879
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, saying for our family and our kids, constantly

880
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: moving around and all all the things we do. So

881
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm actually right now, I'm in I'm in

882
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Texas right now, Dallas. I'm here for a for our

883
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: bow shoot commercial. And it's been cool because you know, Um,

884
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: we have these new Quiet Comfort earbuds and U I'm

885
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: constant I'm gonna go as you know, so you know,

886
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm actually using them right now, so I'm talking to you.

887
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: So it's always good to, um, you know, have those

888
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: in my ear as I'm working out training. I've been

889
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: training like crazy, you know. I have a new training

890
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: Kim Grover, who you know I'm and so we're constantly

891
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: moving and shaking and shaking them and so it's it's

892
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: one of those things that it's perfect for me and

893
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: I can take any call. I can train and I'm

894
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: I can I love hopping on the peloton late in

895
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: the afternoon to at night, you know, so you know,

896
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: it's just if I have a call, you know, I

897
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: throw those throw the you know, the earbuds in my ear.

898
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: So it's been a great relationship. So we're shooting a

899
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: commercial to day. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be

900
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: a blast. I'm excited for it. At some high school

901
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: right now and about to shoot this things. I'm going

902
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: back to my high school days. And you know, you

903
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: made no headlines today, so you're good. You're not going

904
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: to hear from management. You're not going to make Sports

905
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Center today. So the old Russ is back, the old

906
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's back. No trouble, nothing to see here. Just

907
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: move on right, Yeah, man, some man says, no, I

908
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: know it's good. I got it. The old Russ is back.

909
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: There's no more controversy there. Great to talk to you

910
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: is always safe travels and thanks for joining us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll see you later down I thought you soon.