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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Every day's the super Bowl. Welcome to super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Week, Dan and the Dane stan Patrick Show. Glad

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Speaker 1: to have you on board, as we always do every Monday,

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Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend, which you saw that

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Speaker 1: you liked you didn't like. It was a week ago

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Speaker 1: at this time we had Albert Brier on from the

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Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback and we were talking about Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: and he said, I think he's going to get traded

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Speaker 1: before the super Bowl. Well he was right that last

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Speaker 1: week Albert Brier said that, he said, I think that

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Speaker 1: he's going to get traded before the super Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: boy did he ever. Albert will take a victory lap

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Speaker 1: coming up here in a little bit. How many teams

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Speaker 1: were involved in the possibility of acquiring Matthew Stafford? And

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Speaker 1: is it true that Carolina was going to offer the

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Speaker 1: eighth pick? Overall, we'll talk about We always like to

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Speaker 1: decide who won and who lost this deal. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you can say both one. I don't think

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Speaker 1: both lost. But if you're going to say both one,

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Speaker 1: all right, I understand both sides to this. One is

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Speaker 1: for now and one is for the future and in

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Speaker 1: case you're interested in such things for entertainment purposes. Only

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl odds for next season are already out. Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs are your favorite, followed by the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 1: and then your Los Angeles Rams, followed by the Buccaneers, Ravens, Bills, Niners, Saints, Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and the Cleveland Browns. We'll talk to Twoatana Bayoloa, the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins quarterback a little bit later on. We'll check in

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Speaker 1: with the Rams. In Kyler Murray. Oh, the return of

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It was the Atlanta Super Bowl and it

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Speaker 1: didn't go well. Couldn't understand why he was doing the

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Speaker 1: interviews or making the rounds, and he had a day

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Speaker 1: full of interviews for Gatorade. And I'd gotten word on

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Speaker 1: Sunday of Super Bowl week that if he got a

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Speaker 1: top ten grade, he was going to be playing football. Now.

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Speaker 1: He was already a top ten pick in baseball with

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Speaker 1: the Oakland A's, and I thought, okay, we'll have him in.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I realized his dad

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Speaker 1: We got him to sort of begrudgingly throw the football

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Speaker 1: to mclovin and then he sat down and then the

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Speaker 1: meltdown happened where I asked him a couple of questions

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Speaker 1: and he didn't say much. He was noncommittal, like he

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Speaker 1: wasn't even playful, he wasn't even trying, and he could

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Speaker 1: have with better coaching. And I was told after the

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Speaker 1: fact that some people got verbally spanked because Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: was not coached well going into that interview, but Fritzie said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reach out. Do you want to have

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray on? He said, as long as Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: comes in and knows, hey, we got to go back

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Speaker 1: a couple of years here, and then we can work

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Speaker 1: of our way forward here. And from what we were

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Speaker 1: told Kyler Murray, we'll talk about what happened when he

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Speaker 1: came on our set in Atlanta, and then we can

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Speaker 1: move forward. Yes, that was the communication I had suggest

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Speaker 1: He was very well aware of how awkward that works

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Speaker 1: for you and how that came across. And he sounds

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Speaker 1: like he's prepared to be self deprecating and acknowledged that horrible.

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Speaker 1: Are you okay, yeah, oh okay, it sounded yeah. My

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Speaker 1: sexy Monday morning, I don't know if it's that, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: sound a little recipe. Maybe you were working the phones.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you were doing that yesterday, but may just be it.

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Speaker 1: I called Todd twice, Yes you did, Yes, I did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: called him twice, just just checking out and answer. The

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Speaker 1: second time, No you didn't, went right to voicemail. I went, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, yeah, see everything okay with you two. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're buddies. I was throwing out the garbage that we're

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Speaker 1: bring my phone with me down the hill. Yeah, we're friends.

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Speaker 1: Todd taking out the garbage. I throw him the b

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Speaker 1: S flag there I hated. There's all kinds of stuffs.

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Speaker 1: Put the hanging up pictures. Yes, I love it. This

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Speaker 1: is the third time I've heard that he took out

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Speaker 1: the garbage yesterday, which implies that this was a rare occasion.

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Speaker 1: It's the eclipse. It's the Todd Fritz eclipse. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: out the garbage. The late afternoon. We was going to

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Speaker 1: to eighteen hours here and the Northeast is getting getting

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Speaker 1: And NFL offseason filled with quarterback intrigue, got off to

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Speaker 1: a fast start this weekend as the Rams sent Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff to future first round draft picks and a third

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Speaker 1: to Detroit for Matthew Stafford. This sounds like a fantasy

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Speaker 1: draft or a fantasy football trade. Then you know that's

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Speaker 1: the reality of today's NFL Teams know the only way

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Speaker 1: to win is you have to have a very good,

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Speaker 1: slash great quarterback, and they don't have the patients that

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Speaker 1: they once did waiting for a quarterback. Jared Goff had

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Speaker 1: success with the Rams, led them to the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, three trips to the playoffs, but the

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Speaker 1: organization probably saw a glass ceiling here and they decided

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Speaker 1: to pull the trigger. This was not a surprise that

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff was on the trade market. I guess it

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Speaker 1: was surprising that there was a team that was willing

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Speaker 1: to trade for Jared Goff. But Stafford was in the

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Speaker 1: opposite situation. He knew that he could only go so

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Speaker 1: far with the Lions, and the team decided he's turning

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Speaker 1: thirty three, eight's time to start over. And if you

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Speaker 1: love NFL drama, the trade set a pretty high bar.

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Speaker 1: But you get the feeling this will not be the

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Speaker 1: last time we see a star quarterback on the move

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of months, and you start to

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Speaker 1: sort this out. And immediately I got text messages from

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Speaker 1: people with the NFL who said, if this is what

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is worth, then what's Deshaun Watson worth? And

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Speaker 1: the more I looked at it, and I said, They

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with each other other than they

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Speaker 1: are quarterbacks who could be and one was already traded

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Speaker 1: because you wanted to get rid of Jared Goff's salary,

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Speaker 1: his contract. That's why you gave draft picks to the Lions.

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Speaker 1: And then you got Matthew Stafford as well. But this

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Speaker 1: isn't boy if you gave up that. No, you gave

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Speaker 1: salary of Jared Goff. And that's the difference here. The

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Speaker 1: Rams are ready to win now we know that. In

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Speaker 1: fairness to Jared Goff. It always felt like when the

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Speaker 1: Rams played well, it was the genius of Sean mcvagh,

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Speaker 1: and when the Rams played poorly, it was Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: is not a franchise quarterback, especially lately when the head

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Speaker 1: less than flattering for Jared Goff's future with the Rams.

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Speaker 1: But the Rams got a guy who has a higher

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Speaker 1: ceiling there and at age thirty three. I guess the

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Speaker 1: big concern from what I'm told, is just the medicals

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Speaker 1: of the health of Matthew Stafford, because certainly he paid

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Speaker 1: a price with Detroit, and you know, the Rams. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at a couple of things. The Rams got a

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Speaker 1: good offensive line. You know, they give up about a

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Speaker 1: sacks per game. Lions gave up a two point six

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Speaker 1: sacks per game the Rams. You know, that vaunted passing

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Speaker 1: offense was not great eleventh and total offense thirteenth and

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Speaker 1: passing offense. So that makes sense where Matthew Stafford. Stafford

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Speaker 1: isn't concerned about renegoti renegotiating his contract. Also, if you're

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Speaker 1: the Rams, you have to look at the NFC. Brady's

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Speaker 1: forty three, Aaron Rodgers thirty seven, Drew Brees' future in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans is uncertain. All right, let's go for it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have any first round picks for a long

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Speaker 1: long time. But I will say this about the front office.

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Speaker 1: They have made some very good draft selections after the

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Speaker 1: first round. They've done some pretty good job drafting. And

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Speaker 1: that's important to remember here. They don't have first round

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Speaker 1: draft picks. And I thought, if you make a trade

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Speaker 1: with somebody, I thought, if I'm the Lions, I want

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Speaker 1: to make a trade with somebody who's not very good,

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Speaker 1: because now you're going to be taking a draft pick

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Speaker 1: in the first round that could be twenty eight, twenty ninth, thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: I want to make a trade with somebody with a

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Speaker 1: future first round pick who's not going to be very good.

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Speaker 1: Carolina did they offer the eighth pick overall? Did Washington

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Speaker 1: football team offer their first round? I've read where the

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Speaker 1: Colts did not offer their first round pick. But we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Albert Brear. He'll join us coming up, and

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Speaker 1: we'll try to separate fact from fiction. But if I

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Speaker 1: said who won the trade, I would say the Rams,

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Speaker 1: because this is about winning. Now you upgraded, And as

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Speaker 1: far as the Lions go, the Lions new GM used

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Speaker 1: high grade on Jared Golf and they think that they're

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Speaker 1: getting a quarterback not for just two years and then

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Speaker 1: letting him go. But maybe they found a nchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: who was seven years younger than Matthew Stafford. Maybe. But

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Speaker 1: the Rams did what they needed to do. The Lions

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Speaker 1: did what they needed to do. I was just surprised

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff instead of going after that rookie quarterback and

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Speaker 1: having that rookie contract. That was what my thought was

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Speaker 1: guy bring in a young quarterback. But to make this work,

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Speaker 1: the Rams sweetened the pot here and the Lions decided

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Speaker 1: that yep, let's jump on it. So you have that

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Speaker 1: trade for Matthew Stafford. No update really on Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: I think he's sort of scrubbed his Instagram account with

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Speaker 1: anything that mentions the Texans. I'm still in the minority.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he's going to be traded. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Matthew Stafford's deal has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the Texans. The Texans are saying they're

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Speaker 1: not trading him, but you know, for now, because who

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Speaker 1: But if you get the head coach who's able to

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Speaker 1: sit down, David Culley can talk to Deshaun Watson, maybe

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Speaker 1: you can say, look, trust me, but this isn't a

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Speaker 1: long term solution here with the coach who's sixty five,

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Speaker 1: his first head coaching job and he's sixty five. If

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Speaker 1: I'm Deshaun Watson, I want out. JJ Watson not going

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Speaker 1: to be there next year. You've already seen DeAndre Hopkins leave.

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Speaker 1: We don't have anything. I got a good left tackle,

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Speaker 1: Laramie Tounson. We gave up an awful lot to get him.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I don't have great weapons there. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Deshaun is going to get his

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Speaker 1: wish and if the Texans get their wish and they're

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Speaker 1: able to keep him. I'd hate to be the guy

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Speaker 1: who traded Deshaun Watson. I would hate to be known

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Speaker 1: as the guy who gave him up. Here is the

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Speaker 1: Texans GM. Nick Cassario on the possibility of trading Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson just want to reiterate our commitment to Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: He's had a great impact on this organization, a great

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Speaker 1: impact on a lot of people, a great impact on

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Speaker 1: you know, let's give the kid Stafford, Let's give him

427
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Speaker 1: some some certainty, Let's give the other team that's trading

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Speaker 1: for him some certainty, and let's maximize the value of

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Speaker 1: what we have. And so I think, you know, from

430
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: that standpoint, it was smart to do it because, you know,

431
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: a team like the Rams, other teams involved, Washington, Carolina,

432
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, they they had an opportunity to go after

433
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Speaker 1: a guy who I think most teams view as a

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Speaker 1: top ten quarterback without you know, the without without any

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00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: certainty that that anybody of that level is going to

436
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Speaker 1: be available again during the off season. So yeah, I

437
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 1: think it was just sort of a smart read of

438
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: what might happen the next couple of months by by

439
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: the Lions. But to make this deal happen, the Lions

440
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Speaker 1: had to take Jared Golf If this was Teddy Bridgewater

441
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: and Carolina? Were they going to have to take Teddy Bridgewater?

442
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Was this yeah? Was this the formula by these other

443
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Speaker 1: teams that you're gonna have to take our quarterback if

444
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Speaker 1: we're going to make this happen. Yeah, So I think

445
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: it's sort of a two way thing, Dan, Like I think,

446
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: on one hand, you're right, like the Rams were gonna

447
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: have to offload golf. It wasn't going to work if

448
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: they couldn't offload golf, and it would have been tough

449
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: to move golf if quite honestly, it would have been

450
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: very difficult to move golf, if you know, if if

451
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: they had traded for Stafford had both in the roster.

452
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: So the cleanest thing for them to do was to

453
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Speaker 1: offload Golf as part of the deal. That said, I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: I can tell you this, like Dan Campbell had communicated

455
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: to people in that front office that he didn't want

456
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: to be up a creek at quarterback, Like he wanted

457
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: a guy who he could at least at least compete

458
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: with for the next few years. And so, you know,

459
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I think from that standpoint, golf was sort of attractive

460
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Speaker 1: to him and that they had, you know, he has,

461
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Speaker 1: you know, almost five years of starting experience. You know,

462
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: started half of his rookie year and there's been a

463
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: starter since then. He started in a Super Bowl, and um, yeah,

464
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean I think that because of that, like, there

465
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: was a level of interest in golf, and that at

466
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Speaker 1: the very least, you know, he can be a competent

467
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Speaker 1: and starting quarterback for you for the next two or

468
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: three years and buy you time to find whoever your

469
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: long term answer is, I think from the same you

470
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Speaker 1: know by, you know by in the same sort of way.

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Speaker 1: If you're trading with Carolina, obviously Teddy Bridgewater would be

472
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Speaker 1: a guy that you'd mentioned. If you're trading with Denver,

473
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Speaker 1: Drew Locke would be a guy that would come up.

474
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Speaker 1: So I think with you know, a number of these teams,

475
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Speaker 1: a quarterback could have come and play if those teams

476
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Speaker 1: have been able to get to the sort of draft

477
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: pick comp that the Rams are willing to give up,

478
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: which the down sign for both of these teams. So

479
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: the downside for the Lions is that the Rams could

480
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: be really good over the next couple of years and

481
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: those picks might not be all that valuable. Um. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: I think if you if you look at what the

483
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Speaker 1: what was in front of the Lions, they had an

484
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to get the eighth pick in the draft um

485
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Speaker 1: as part of a pick swap. I think they probably

486
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: could have wound up with a ninth pick two with Denver.

487
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: Now they would have had to send a pick back,

488
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: which devalues it a little bit. They could have had

489
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Speaker 1: the nineteenth pick Washington's pick, and so part of the

490
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: risk for the Lions here is you don't know what's

491
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: going to happen to the picks in twenty twenty two

492
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty three, and if the Rams are really good,

493
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: you know, then those might be to facto second round picks.

494
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: So that's the risk for the Lions in doing this

495
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: deal this way. The risk for the Rams is that,

496
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, they've become very very top heavy in their

497
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: salary structure, and there's questions about whether or not you

498
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: can put the right sort of support system around Matthew Stafford.

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00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, obviously they're a little bit you know, they've

500
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: they've they've had their issues in the offensive line the

501
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: last couple of years. How does Andrew Whitworth hang on,

502
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: hold up at left tackle? You know what happens if

503
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: one of their big salary guys has an injury. So

504
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: because of the way they're structured now, it leaves them

505
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: in a position where they're going to have to hit

506
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: on a lot of you know, third, fourth, fifth round

507
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: picks in order to make up the difference and build

508
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: depth in case they do lose some of the big

509
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: name guys they have And they've been pretty good though that, yeah,

510
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: they have. You know, they've they've done well from the

511
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Speaker 1: second round on. So we're talking to Albert Brear, the

512
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: senior NFL reporter lead content strategist for the MMQB. Is

513
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: the hall that the Lions got in any way related

514
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: to what it's going to cost to get to Shaun Watson, No,

515
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: because well, I think part of the hall the Lions

516
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: were able to get was taking on Golf's contract, right, like,

517
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: so there was a little bit of and again like

518
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: the Lions wanted Golf, like, the Lions like the idea

519
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: of having Golf as their starting quarterback, at least as

520
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: a placeholder. But there was an NBA element to this,

521
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: right like that, you know they had to the Rams

522
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: had to give a little bit more to get the

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00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Lions to take on Goff's contract. So that definitely exists. Shoot,

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Speaker 1: I lost my trans thought there, Dan, What was the

525
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: question the Texans and what it's Texans? Yeah, I don't,

526
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Speaker 1: I do not think. I don't think it affects that much.

527
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson's a twenty five year old superstar quarterback.

528
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: Like I think you start with three first round picks

529
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: probably if you're talking about dealing for Deshaun Watson, and again,

530
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's going to be available. I mean,

531
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: right now, I can tell you where it stands. Deshaun

532
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Watson isn't returning the Texans calls, and like the Texans

533
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: are basically stonewalling anybody who comes to them inquiring about Watson.

534
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, right now we're sort of in this

535
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: giant staring contest and nobody really knows what the conclusion is.

536
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, because we don't know whether or not Deshaun

537
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Watson's going to acquiesced and eventually talk to the Texans people,

538
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: and we don't know if the Texans are going to

539
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: get to a point down the line where they say,

540
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what, we got a first year coach, a

541
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Speaker 1: first year GM. We can't start a program with this

542
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: hanging over our head for the next six months. Yeah,

543
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting. I know that the Nick Cassero

544
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: said they're not, you know, trading him or whatever, no intentions,

545
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: But if I was in the press conference, so I

546
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: would have followed up by asking are you taking phone calls? Though? Yeah,

547
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: because that's what I want to know. I mean, you can,

548
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: of course you're going to say we have no interest

549
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: in trading him and then see if somebody really wants

550
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson what they're going to give up. Did

551
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: the Rams think that Aaron Rodgers was really in play? Well,

552
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams so, like I think the Rams

553
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: explored the idea Watson too. Like, I think the Rams

554
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: were sort of looking at all of their options as Okay,

555
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: how do we upgrade at the position? And I think

556
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: part of it was that they felt like there was

557
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of a ceiling there with Jared Goff

558
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: and you know, they feel like they're in a championship window,

559
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: number one defense in the NFL, and you know, a

560
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: bunch of star players who are right in the heart

561
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: of their prime guys like Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Donald

562
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: and so you know, this is sort of their time

563
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: to go and maximize what they have. So I don't

564
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: think that they felt like Aaron Rodgers was available, but

565
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is a team that sort of investigates everything,

566
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Dan like, so you know,

567
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: they didn't want to be kicking themselves on the other

568
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: end of the Stafford deal, you know, and they find

569
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: out a month later that Rogers was available or that

570
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: Watson was available, So they definitely kicked tires on those

571
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: sorts of things to make sure. Okay, like you know,

572
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: we know the landscape now we're going to go forward

573
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford as our target. I was told last

574
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: night by a source that the Lions said to Matthew Stafford,

575
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: pick a soft landing, you know that that that we

576
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: we don't want to disgruntled former Detroit Lion because we

577
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: have enough of those our star players who haven't always

578
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 1: been happy that that San Francisco was really in play.

579
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: But then I didn't know what was going to happen

580
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolo was that a similar situation that Garoppolo

581
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: was going to go to Detroit. So, like my understanding is,

582
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: and this was the understanding a bunch of teams that

583
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: were involved had, was that the top three for Stafford

584
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: number one, LA number two San Francisco, number three Indianapolis,

585
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: and of those three, Los Angeles showed by far the

586
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: most interest. You know that the Niners. My understanding is,

587
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: they talked to they talked to the Lions at the

588
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and things escalated fast, and like, I don't

589
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: think that the Niners were ever going to offer the

590
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: twelfth pick. Now, they were willing to put together an offer,

591
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think they were ever going to offer

592
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: the twelfth pick. And really, you know, I think that

593
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: their idea was, okay, like let's regroup over the weekend

594
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll put something in front of the

595
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: Lions on Monday. And then when the Lions came back

596
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: to them after things had escalated a little bit on Saturday,

597
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it was like, you know

598
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: what the return was going to be for Stafford. They

599
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: were like whoa, you know, like that's a little bit

600
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: further than we were willing to go. So I think

601
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: it was sort of a combination with the Niners of

602
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: how quickly things escalated in the negotiation Friday and Saturday,

603
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: and then also just you know the fact that like

604
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: they're okay with where they're at with Jimmy Garoppolo and

605
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: it the quarterbacks switched there wasn't worth the twelfth overall

606
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: pick to them. What do you expect to happen this week?

607
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: If anything? Hearing as far as more trades, anything anything, Um, Now,

608
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think we're gonna have actor.

609
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have as much action this week. Um.

610
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, although I do think you know you you

611
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: you look at some of the like pieces of this trade,

612
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: and I think you get a window into what could

613
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: happen over the next couple of months. And so I

614
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: do think you'll start to see some of those Explorer

615
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Tory phone calls. But teams are going to continue calling DeShawn,

616
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: calling the Texans on Deshaun Watson until Deshaun Watson shows

617
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: up and puts on a Texans element and wears the

618
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Texas jersey again. So do you think that's Jackson Bill

619
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: entertained phone calls for the number one overall pick. No, okay, no,

620
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: but I'll give you I'll give you one though, like,

621
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: like you know, I think the number two overall picks

622
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: suddenly becomes really fascinating. I mean, I can tell you

623
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: one of the teams that checked in on Stafford was

624
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and I don't think that they

625
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: were gonna go where the Rams went. But you know

626
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: what that is, Dan, I mean a couple other teams

627
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: like that was sort of a smoke signal to them. Like, okay, Like,

628
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: if you're making a call on Matthew Stafford, does by

629
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, deductive reasoning here? Does that mean you're moving

630
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: on from Sam Darnold? And if you're moving on something

631
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: from if you could be moving on from Sam Darnold.

632
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: Now do I put together an offer, you know what

633
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean? Or do I see what maybe you're willing

634
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: to do with him? So you know, I think that

635
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: there are certain parts of the Stafford deal that could

636
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: lead to other things. And again, the Texans are naturally

637
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: going to get calls on Watson. But now that some team,

638
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: other teams that need quarterbacks and may want a young quarterback,

639
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Speaker 1: see the Jets picked up the phone and call alliance.

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Speaker 1: If you're one of those teams, do you pick up

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Speaker 1: up the phone and call the Jets about Darnold. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's fascinating, and that of course plays into

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Speaker 1: the second overall pick now or the Jets looking at

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson or justin fields there. That's where all of

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Speaker 1: the moving parts with this are going to be so

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Speaker 1: interesting over the next couple of months. Oh. Always great

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Speaker 1: to talk to. Thank you again and congrats on your victory.

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Speaker 1: Lamp there, Albert, and have a great week. Awesome, thanks Dan,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate That's Albert Brier, the NFL Insider MMQB senior

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Speaker 1: NFL reporter. Oh, and I talked to so many people

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Speaker 1: yesterday just I was trying to get some clarity here

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Speaker 1: and what's going to happen and do you make a trade?

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Speaker 1: Who makes the trade? What pick? I was told Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson is going to be the second quarterback off the board.

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Speaker 1: I was told that yesterday. I don't know what that

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Speaker 1: means because I even said to the person my source,

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, but it's it's jan you know, we're

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Speaker 1: just dipping our toes into February. A lot can happen,

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Speaker 1: and he said yes, but I'm telling you right now,

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Speaker 1: if you did a survey, you would get that Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson from b YU would be the second quarterback off

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Speaker 1: the board. And I said, okay, I'll check back with

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Speaker 1: you on this because we'll see what happens with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But if the Jets were going to trade Sam Darnald

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Speaker 1: and to get Matthew staff Like, if I'm the Jets,

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Speaker 1: I don't want Matthew Stafford. If anything, I want to

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Speaker 1: trade Sam Darnold, I would keep Sam Darnald. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to try to get a quarterback and once

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Speaker 1: again you get that rookie contract, you're not winning anything now.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, some of the Rams are trying. They

671
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Speaker 1: need to win now. They have to win now. Yeah, pull,

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Speaker 1: that's why you've brought up something this morning about the

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Speaker 1: Lions side of this trade. The Lions are not built

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Speaker 1: to win now, but they have a quarterback who's entering

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Speaker 1: his prime in Jared Goff. If you believe so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you kind of like the idea of them drafting more so. Yes,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Lions, I want to start with understand

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Speaker 1: that what I was told when before Tuah got drafted

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Speaker 1: I was told the Lions if that coaching staff had

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Speaker 1: more security, they were strongly considering too a tongue of ioloa,

681
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Speaker 1: and they took Jeff Okuda, but they were looking at Tua.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have any confidence because they knew if they

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Speaker 1: that's why they did not take two a Tonga bilo

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Speaker 1: or at least explored a little deeper. All right, Play

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford the past four seasons. Have that for you

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Speaker 1: the way, Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford and their significant

703
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Speaker 1: others were in Cabo and they were celebrating the deal

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Also Sean mcveagh's friends with the Bills

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Speaker 1: receivers coach Chad Hall, who was Matthew Stafford's wife's brother.

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Speaker 1: The connection led to a friendly relationship between the Staffords

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Speaker 1: and McVeigh in recent years. Upon the trade completion, the

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Speaker 1: two couples joined in Cabo to celebrate this. According to

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Speaker 1: Here's some numbers with Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff. This

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Speaker 1: is the last four years Jared Goff seventeen thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: one hundred two touchdowns, forty eight picks, ninety four point

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Speaker 1: one rating, Stafford fourteen thousand yards, just under fifteen thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: ninety five touchdowns, thirty six picks, a quarterback rating of

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Speaker 1: ninety six point eight. Goff very good during the regular

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Speaker 1: season forty two and twenty Matthew Stafford twenty three, thirty

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Speaker 1: two and one. Different supporting casts there. But is there

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Speaker 1: that much of an upgrade with Jared Goff with Matthew Stafford?

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Speaker 1: And it sounds like the Lions are doing what they

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Speaker 1: want to do, which is if you're able to do

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Speaker 1: what you want to do as opposed to being forced

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Speaker 1: to do what somebody else wants you to do, you

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Speaker 1: know that there's a big difference there. If the Lions

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Speaker 1: won Jared Goff, they had a good grade on him

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Speaker 1: coming out of Cow. They like him, The new GM

731
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Speaker 1: likes him coming over from the Rams. All right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if that's I wouldn't have done it that way because

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Speaker 1: I don't want my quarterback who right now is still

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Speaker 1: a little unproven, and you're going to pay him that

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Speaker 1: kind of money and there's a lot of money that's

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Speaker 1: guaranteed here, I wouldn't do it. But if you're the

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Speaker 1: Lions and you want to just have somebody who can

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Speaker 1: go out there and make you competitive, then okay, I

739
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Speaker 1: understand that I would still want to get my quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If I'm taking over a team, chances are they're not

741
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Speaker 1: very good. I want to get my quarterback now. If

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Speaker 1: I take over the Texans, I want to keep my

743
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Speaker 1: quarterback there. But if I'm taking over a team, I

744
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Speaker 1: want to get my guy. And if the Lions feel

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Speaker 1: like Jared Goff's there a guy, then good, maybe they

746
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: got a bargain here. Yeah, pobaby, I guess if if

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Speaker 1: I were a Lions fan today, I'm thinking myself, I've

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Speaker 1: seen all Matthew Stafford's work and it's gotten us nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, you have seen him on TV in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl before. If you're a Lions fan, that's that's

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And you still have that he has that

752
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: tinge around him. He's younger, he's also. Fans love first

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Speaker 1: round draft picks. They love acquiring them. There's nothing worse

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Speaker 1: than going into draft day and watching nothing on your TV,

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Speaker 1: your team getting nobody. Lions fans now could say, oh

756
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: we got two and twenty two and two and twenty three.

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00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: It feels good like they won January in their minds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I would rather be trading with somebody who is

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Speaker 1: not going to be good. When I get that first

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Speaker 1: round pick, I don't have to wait four hours for

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Speaker 1: us to make the selection. It's nice to have something

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Speaker 1: to do on draft night there. But how about we

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Speaker 1: get a top ten pick and if you could have

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Speaker 1: gotten Carolina's pick at eight? I don't know. It sounds

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Speaker 1: pretty intriguing to me, and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a true offer, but you know, it sounds like I

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Speaker 1: didn't think the Colts were willing to pony up like

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Speaker 1: the other teams were. Right, let me see Chris and Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Hey Chris, what do you have for me today? Hey?

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Speaker 1: But but uh six, thank you very much. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: trade is intriguing. On the surface, it looks it seemed

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Speaker 1: pretty even to me. But man, I don't worry about

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Speaker 1: golf getting injured over there. Um, you guys share some

774
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: of those numbers that the uh the sack totals. I

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00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: think Stafford had thirty eight or something for last season,

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Speaker 1: But worry about that. And also I know that it

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Speaker 1: didn't seem like Watson We're gonna be up for trade.

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00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: But that is a intriguing trade to go to Jacksonville

779
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Speaker 1: for the number one pick. Yeah, man, that's not happened.

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Speaker 1: That that's not happened. If I'm Urban Meyer, as much

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Speaker 1: as I love to Shaun Watson, I've would want to start.

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Speaker 1: I just Trevor Lawrence with the salary stuff. I get

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00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: that contract. It's I know Deshaun Watson's a proven talent,

784
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to be passing on Trevor Lawrence.

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00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's happening. Fact that the Rams

786
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: at least gave a call to the packers about Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers certainly interesting. Coming up next hour two a Tonga

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