1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Can'st playground. Taking a Walk with bus Night. Well, Hi, 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm buzs Night. I'm the host of the Taking a 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Walk podcast series, our special Boston Gems series. So excited 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: here today you're going to find out how a gentleman 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: who grew up in the mean streets of Wallfam, Massachusetts, 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: graduated to become one of the most significant voices in 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: the Boston sports scene. Tony Maserati is our special guest 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: on this episode of Taking a Walk. Tony is I 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: think one of the busiest guys in show business these days. 10 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: He is part of the successful, the wildly successful Felger 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: and Maz show on the Sports Hub ninety eighty five 12 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: in Boston, and he's also now added a little bit 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: to his repertoire in terms of the Boston Red Sox. 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: I'll let him tell you all about it. But Tony, 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: it's so great to be taking a walk with you 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: here and conquered mass at Veral Farm. Well you too, Buzz. Obviously, 17 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: we originally connected when station became part of the Beasley 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Media group. You and I were both at Beasley. So 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it and flattered that you think 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: of me in those terms. But I appreciate it. Well, 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: it's listen, it's a track record, dude. And how can 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: you help us, first of all, understand the psyche of 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: the Boston sports fan. I know you have a book 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: that is just releasing which kind of gets inside of 25 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: that a little bit. So how can you help us 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: understand the fanaticism of these fans? Well, so, I'll tell 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you this that in this project, part of the logic 28 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: was a part of the challenge, was trying to understand 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: why it is the way it is here as far 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: as sports fans go. And I say that as it's 31 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: as intense a sports market, media market as there is 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: in the country, if not more so, would you already know? 33 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know that there's a right answer, you know. 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I talked to Bob Ryan about it. I talked to 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: Shaughnessy about it, Bill Parcells, and there were some really 36 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: interesting people and I think we all have different theories. 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that a lot of 38 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: these markets have in common, if we can, if there 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: are any that you can lump together, and Boston is 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: really unique. We are you know, we are one of 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: the original. You know, this is where the country began 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: and northeast is where the country began, so actually right 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: in conquered mass well, right, so there you go. So 44 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: the you know, there's a lot of tradition here, there's 45 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot of history here. We have a change of 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: seasons here where they don't have another places, and so 47 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's just everything here is very deep rooted. 48 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think over the years, whether it be because 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: of the change of seasons or the history, or you know, 50 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: or a combination of those factors, people are just really 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: intense about their teams. And the only other market to 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: me that really compares. And again, you know, there are 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: bigger places like New York, but they have multiple teams 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: in multiple sports. We only have one of each. So 55 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Philadelphia to me, is probably the coastest thing. And I 56 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: would say many of the same characteristics apply to Philadelphia 57 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: that apply to Boston. So it's personal here and the 58 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: experience between the fans and the teams is very very personal, 59 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: and that can make it volatile. Well, and I think 60 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: you would agree that the fans can turn very quickly 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: on players, ownership, managers. Oh definitely, yeah. And that's it. 62 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: And that's what I mean by volatile, is that it 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: can it really is all over the map, and the 64 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: emotions run deep, they're genuine, you know, and like anything else, 65 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the older you get, you know, the more mellow or 66 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: even keeled you get. But I think that the teams 67 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: here are just such a big part of who we 68 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: are and and you know, and in a place like this, 69 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: it's noteworthy too because of all the other elements we have. 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's if you were to look up best 71 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: medical cities in America, Boston's on the list. Best cities 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: for education and universities, Boston's on the list, And yet 73 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: most people think of Boston as a really passionate, intense 74 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: sports town. And so it's just that that that the 75 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: fact that that identity exists tells you just how how 76 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: strongly that message comes across to everybody else, and people 77 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: hear it, you know. Felger and I talk about this 78 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: a lot, Mike Felger and I. People here care, They 79 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: just really care about it. And so you know, the 80 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: why is hard to explain, but you know, there's no 81 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: better place to do what we do, that's for sure. 82 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: So the book really taps the vein there. This is 83 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: your fourth book, right, this is actually my fifth fifth book. Wow, yeah, 84 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: this is my fifth and you know, it's really just 85 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: a look at the last twenty years and the extraordinary 86 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: run that Boston has had. And I think there has 87 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: been a real competition that's been built between the teams 88 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: in town for market share really, and you know, for 89 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: the attention of the fan base. There are only so 90 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: many of us, so you know, again, and it's the 91 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: size of the city's a factor too. Again, New York 92 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: is very big, lots of options. Boston when you get 93 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: right down or it is pretty small. So I think 94 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: we're twenty second in population in the United States something 95 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: like that. So places like Indianapolis are bigger based on population. Well, so, 96 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: do you remember the first game you went to? I 97 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: think I do. It was let me see, I would 98 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: say my recollection has head. It was a Patriots a 99 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: game between the Red Sox and Yankees in the early seventies. 100 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I was probably six or seven years old. The Red 101 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: Sox got killed. I remember thinking it was eleven to nothing, 102 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: but I looked up the score recently of that game, 103 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and I think it was more like sixteen to two, 104 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: which tells me that we left when it was eleven 105 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: enough because my father had seen enough so, and I 106 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: don't blame him. It's you know, it's a little discussed. 107 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: I'm thinking probably, and you know, it's a long time 108 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: for anyone to be at a ball game, let alone. 109 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: You know, at the time, I was probably five or six, 110 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: and you were more interested in you know, popcorn and 111 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: peanuts and you know, those terrific hot exactly right. It 112 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: was all about, you know, just the you know, I 113 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: was a baseball fan from the time I was a kid, 114 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: So you know, you go to the ballpark and I 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: remember just very I feel like anybody that age, very 116 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: sort of few images of it. I think we sat 117 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: over by the Yankees dugout or that side. The Yankees 118 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: had a pitcher at the time whose name was Pat 119 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Dobson used to pitch for the Orioles was a twenty 120 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: game winner with Baltimore at one point, and I remember 121 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Dobson pitched that game, which is how I looked how 122 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: I looked it up. So the game definitely existed, and 123 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, I have very clear images of having been there, 124 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure that was the first one. You know, 125 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: back then, it's not like it is now. You show 126 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: up for your first game and they give you a 127 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: photo and a little frame and like everything is this 128 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: big orchestration. Back then, all you have was your memory, right, 129 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, boy, in that first memory of setting foot 130 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: in Fenway, I certainly never forget it. In my instance, 131 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: I also have this indelible memory of the first time 132 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: walking into the old Boston Garden. I'll bet you have 133 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: a memory like that as well. So you know what, honestly, 134 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to the garden, I couldn't tell you 135 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: the first time I was there, huh. And my father 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: did not. I mean, if I were to think about it, 137 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: my father wasn't a big hockey, basketball fan, so I 138 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: think the first time I ever went into the garden 139 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: might have been to see pro wrestling. So my father 140 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: had a friend who was a big wrestling fan. And 141 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: if you remember at the time, my parents were immigrants buzz. 142 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: So my father came over in fifty five and he 143 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: had a friend who was also an immigrant. And if 144 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: you remember back in the seventies, you know the WWF 145 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: champion was a guy named Bruno San Martino. Yeah, so 146 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: my father's friend, whose name was Al, was a big 147 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Bruno Sammartino fan, and he was taking his kids to 148 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: wrestling one night and asked, if you know, myself and 149 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: my cousin wanted to go. So I think that was 150 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: the first time I was ever in the garden. It 151 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: was actually see Bruno wrestle Larry's Abisco if you remember him. 152 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember him. I was going to say, guess 153 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: who Wah who Wahoo McDaniel, but I wasn't a big 154 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: wrestling fan, although I love the names. Who was the 155 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: other one? Killer Kowalson? Oh sure, right, yeah, so I'll 156 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: tell you what the what the relevance of Bruno and 157 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: Zibisco was Larry's Abisco was Bruno's protege who then rebelled 158 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: against him. So it was like theo Epstein and Larry 159 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Lucino or Belichick and Parcels like the You know, this 160 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: a story that is as old as time, but you know, 161 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: and again it's amazing how many times it's played out here. 162 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: But it was that kind of thing. And now, of course, 163 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: to this day, you have our buddy James Stewart tackling 164 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: wrestling in a completely different way. Yeah, Jimmy's a wrestling guy. 165 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: He's completely miniacal about it, and I'm not sure people 166 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: even realize although He's got quite a following on his 167 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: wrestling podcast. It's terrific. But Jimmy, like Jimmy is a 168 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: true WWE insider, like he knows all those guys, they 169 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: all know him, like he's on the inside there. He's 170 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: a savant. Oh he is. Yeah, and again, and he's 171 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: also tapped into that world, I mean in more ways 172 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: than one. Totally. Yeah, they all know Jimmy. So the book, congratulations. 173 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: I'm curious of the process, though, When did you first 174 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: get it in your head that you were going to 175 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: write this fifth book? So I had told the last 176 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: one I did was about a little over ten years ago, 177 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: is Tim Wakefield's book, and which I really enjoyed doing. 178 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: And I told myself at that time I wasn't going 179 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: to do another one unless I really wanted to, And 180 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: so the topic had to be right And just before 181 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: the start of the pandemic or right around then. The 182 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: woman who had been the editor on that project, whose 183 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: name is Susan Cannaban, she lives out here. Susan had 184 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: formerly worked for Houghton Mifflin and then became took a 185 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: job as part of a and you know, an agency 186 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: that handled authors, and she you know, we went out 187 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: to lunch one day in fact, not far from here, 188 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: and she said, hey, look, you know nobody has chronicled 189 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: this run in Boston and how it's all changed. So 190 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: you feel like a good person to do it. Is 191 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: it something that would interest you and maybe, you know, 192 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: let me see if we can sell it. Pandemic was coming, 193 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I sort of thought, well, I'm going 194 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: to be home a lot and and the topic is 195 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: interested to be interested me and still does because there's 196 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: just never been a time like it and really in 197 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: any North American city ever. So that was the impetus 198 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: and I started cranking away and you know, made a 199 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: lot of phone calls, did a lot of research online 200 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: with the help of some databases and archives, and you know, 201 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: it's really the hardest part was whittling it down because 202 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: there's just so much that has happened here in the 203 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: last twenty years. Wow, what a terrific accomplishment, and what 204 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: a great thing to capture and just you know, just 205 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: put the finger on the pulse. And what's so cool 206 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: is it's what you know the Felgrin Mash show talks 207 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: about frequently as well as sort of a basis and 208 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: a backbone towards you know, why you feel a particular 209 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: way right now a team is not performing or something. 210 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: So it sort of sets into your guys overriding theme 211 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: around that show. Yeah, and the nice thing about a 212 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: project like that is that you've lived it, so a 213 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff is already in your head and 214 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: that makes the research easier when you're going back and 215 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: looking for things that you want to include. But I 216 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: would agree, you know, one of the things we really 217 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: try to examine on the show, and Mike is excellent 218 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: at this, is sort of the feeling of things and 219 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: how they you know, what the genesis of those emotions 220 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: is and the conflict that exists, you know, both in 221 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: terms of you know, what's inside any fan or what's 222 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: inside any organization. And you know, he and I were 223 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: both Beat reporters for a really long time, and I 224 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: think what that does is give you just insight into 225 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: how a sports team works and what you know, what 226 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: types of stuff goes on inside the walls, whether it 227 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: be a Gillette Stadium or Faenway Park, because there's a 228 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of politicking and angling and conflict and resolution and 229 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff that goes on that most fans aren't 230 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: privy to and and you know, and we both were, Tony, 231 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: the show operates with such precision, and of course the 232 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: radio station operates with such unbelievable precision. What's the key 233 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: to that? So with regard to the show, I mean, 234 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a secret. You know, Mike is 235 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: very unique. Uh, he's extremely gifted, talented, and he's really 236 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: really smart. And you know, he and I worked together 237 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: for a long time at the Herald when we were younger. 238 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: But I you know, at that age, you're sort of 239 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: in your own world. I don't think we you know, 240 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: we I don't think we really knew each other at all, 241 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: as much as we knew each other. If you know 242 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: what that meant, you know, if you know what or 243 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: of course you know what, you know, you know what 244 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, So you know, there was like anything when 245 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: you're in that kind of relationship. You know, he and 246 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: I are elbow to elbow every day now for thirteen years, 247 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: so you see the other person's best, the worst, and 248 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: everything in between. And he is I mean, he is 249 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: unbelievably perceptive. He's really really bright, He's got an unbelievable memory. 250 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's really really smart and don't let anybody 251 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: tell you otherwise. You know, It's like no, I completely agree, 252 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: and I just think, you know, obviously you have that 253 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: as a starting point, and then you have obviously the 254 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: cast of characters you know, you know you and then 255 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: of course Big Jim Murray. I mean, it's just it's 256 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: an amazing chemistry collaboration, you know, like I said, a 257 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: machine like brilliance, and the results show, you know, I 258 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: mean yeah, and look at buzz. It always takes a 259 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: lot of people for something like that to work. And 260 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, but you need your principles too, and there's 261 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: no question Mike's one of our principles, you know. And 262 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: but then on top of it, like I will, I'll 263 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: say that I think we've had good leadership over the years, 264 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: both at CBS and now at Beasley, which matters because 265 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: it all speaks to culture and you know, how the 266 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: whole thing works and what is valued, and that's important, 267 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: and we've had a good staff of people. I'm really 268 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: all over the building. I mean, I'm including sales and 269 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: marketing and promotions and you know, uh, producers, all of it. 270 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: So you know, they're just the one thing I can 271 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: say like that. I would say one of the things 272 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: I think we're we should all be most proud of 273 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: is there's not a lot of you know, backbiting or 274 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: jealousy between the shows. Is we really haven't had any 275 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: of that. I mean, there have been times where people 276 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: get on each other's nerves and whatnot, but I characterize 277 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: all of that as sort of the human element, Like 278 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: you're never going to get rid of that stuff, because 279 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: it's at the end of the day, people have stresses 280 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: in their lives, and the more time they spend around 281 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: one another, the more they're going to see each other's flaws. So, 282 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: but there's a reason why it's lasted as long as 283 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: it has well. And so yeah, and I think that's 284 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: a credit to the people involved that, you know, we've 285 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: all kept it in perspective and just try to show 286 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: up and do what we're supposed to do and accept 287 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: the good and the bad that comes with it. You know, 288 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: what was the most in your mind, pivotal moment that 289 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: really put the station on the map and the show 290 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: really on the map. I think I know the answer, 291 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: but well, what's your answer. Well, I certainly remember this 292 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: little incident that occurred with the Red Sox ownership, which 293 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: to me was one of those remarkable moments. I remember. 294 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: I was I had landed at Logan from I think 295 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: Philadelphia actually when I was you know, doing you know, 296 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: corporate programming work, and I heard it all unfolding in 297 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: my you know, hour and a half drive and I 298 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: was my jaw drop, that's what I remember. What do 299 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: you think I mean, that's what I would have picked. Yeah, 300 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: And I think that again, it's one of those that 301 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: you know, you just can't plan for something like pat 302 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: And so, you know, Mike and I were talking about 303 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: the Red Sox and they were at a really, you know, 304 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: sort of unstable time in their history where Terry Frankcone 305 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: had just been fired. His departure was ugly. There was 306 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: a smear campaign that felt like in the globe, you know. 307 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: So Mike and I were talking about that, and Rick Radzach, 308 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: are assistant program direct at the time, stuck his head 309 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: in the door and says, hey, John, Henry's in the lobby, 310 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: and Felger's like, yeah, okay, right, and Rick's like, no, 311 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: he's upstairs. He wants to come on the air. So 312 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: we sort of looked at each other like bring him down, 313 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: so it completely you know, it sounded like he can 314 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: plan for that sort of thing, but it was you know, 315 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: I suppose if you're listening in the car like you were, 316 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: it was real drama unfolding in real time, and you 317 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: know he was you know, Henry was pretty calm the 318 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: whole time, but he clearly wanted to be heard. And 319 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, we always joked, We've told this story on 320 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: the air a million times that you know, we had 321 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: to take a I think we went something like forty 322 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: five minutes without a commercial break, maybe an hour, and 323 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: then we finally took one. We said we have to 324 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: take a commercial break, and he said he was going 325 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: to stay. And during the commercial he said something like, 326 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, I used to like you. And we kind 327 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: of chuckled about it, but you know, it was you know, 328 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: it was kind of a you know, it was a 329 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: significant day for us, there's no question. Well it's funny 330 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned being ready for the moment, and that's something 331 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: I think about a lot with brands that are working 332 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: their way, you know, up the ladder in a market 333 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: of any format. Frankly, that there are moments in time 334 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: that you'll never know that it's going to happen, and 335 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: then suddenly you're presented with, you know, a decision and 336 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: a situation and you need to just execute at your 337 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: highest level. And I think that, you know, was the 338 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: beginning of this rocket ship that you know, you're certainly 339 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: part of and is such an amazing team and award 340 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: winning and tremendo this rating. So I couldn't be happier 341 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: for you and the whole crew. That was for me, 342 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, with Beasley purchasing that station, you know, a 343 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: real highlight to you know, be part of meet you 344 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: guys and be a fanboy. Well look, you know, and 345 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: again we try to you know, I think we all 346 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: make a concerted effort to keep our feet on the ground. 347 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: So you know, again, Felger and I have talked about 348 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: this a million times, along with everybody else at the 349 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: station and around the show. And I you know, obviously 350 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I keep mentioning Mike because we just we've had a 351 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: lot of interaction in the last thirteen years. But you know, 352 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: Boston had not won a championship in a long time 353 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: before the Patriots won and oh one, and so you know, 354 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: Mike was on the Patriots beat at the right time, 355 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: and then the Red Sox won and I was on 356 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the Red Sox beat at the right time. So there 357 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: is a certain amount of timing in these things that 358 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: nobody could ever control, right. And you know, as much 359 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: as we you know, we like to think we do 360 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: a good show, we're proud of it or all of that, 361 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: people have to care. And the caring comes from the 362 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: fan base and also from the winning because when they win, 363 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: the fan base grows. So you know, the timing was 364 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: a huge part of it for us. And you know, again, 365 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: we've had a run of championships here like nothing anyone 366 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: has ever seen over twenty years. It's twelve championships and 367 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: nineteen trips to the finals, so I think Boston's twelve 368 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: and seven and those nineteen that includes just the recent 369 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: loss by the Celtics. But it feels like every year 370 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: someone's been vying for a championship and people like to 371 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: talk about good teams. Oh, you know, we kind of 372 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: hit the terms of the timing. We hit the bullseye 373 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: on it, which is, you know, that's a blindfolded dart 374 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: that you're throwing and hope you hit something. Do you 375 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: pinch yourself and go I can't believe where this is 376 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: all going and can exist right now in terms of 377 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: your career. I mean, I think there are times where 378 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, where you were aware of it, you're like, 379 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. Like the Celtics run last year is 380 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: a good example. It looked like that team was going 381 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: nowhere and then overnight, it's like they flip this switch 382 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they were vying for 383 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: the title and they started playing at a level that 384 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: I think was apparent to all of us that while 385 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: they're really good now, it just happened overnight. And so 386 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, there are times where we'll go to commercial 387 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: breaks and you know, and I can't tell you how often, 388 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: but every once in a while, there'll be a story 389 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: where we stop and go, this is unbelievable. This is incredible. 390 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: This has happened. And we've said that a lot. And 391 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't even include the scandals like Spygate and the 392 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: flight Gate and you know, Belichick versus Parcels and theo 393 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: versus Larry and theater. It's all theater. It really is, Yeah, 394 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: it really is. It's amazing and it's been you know, 395 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: in a town like this, it's compelling theater. It's great 396 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: theater and and you know, people just can't get enough 397 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: of it. Neither can we. So again, there's a lot 398 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of good fortune in there for sure. 399 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: Well it's an amazing it's an amazing ride, no doubt. 400 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: So well, let's see a couple of shout outs. First 401 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: of all, Discover Conquered did a nice little feature on 402 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: taking a walk, so I want to thank them. I 403 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: can't be remiss in my appreciation. Also to Bob Malatesta, 404 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: who I was mentioning to you, Tony, who does our pduction. 405 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: So shout out to him, and to the great folks 406 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: at Point to Point Marketing who are helping out taking 407 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: a walk. So, Tony, in closing here, who's your favorite 408 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: coach or manager of all time in Boston? Oh? Wow, 409 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: good question. A coach or manager I would have to say. 410 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I think i'd probably lean Bill Parcells. Just 411 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: the magnitude of the persona. He was larger than life, 412 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, And there was a symbolism there too. Right, 413 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: the day Parcells became coach of the Patriots is the 414 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: day the Patriots were validated as a franchise. It just 415 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: totally changed the whole, you know, mindset of the Patriots 416 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: fan and put the Patriots on the map. So to me, 417 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: that's sort of a landmark event. He didn't win a championship, 418 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: but football here has never been the same since Parcells 419 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: got here, and so I would lean there. I don't know. 420 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: I had a favorite Celtics coach for Red Sox manager 421 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: Joe Morgan, and Walpole's a good one. You know. He 422 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: was great, just a local guy, as genuine as it gets. 423 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: I'd say, probably as far as Bruin's coaches Don Cherry. 424 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: You know, that goes back to when I was a kid. 425 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: And again he was just really blunt, vocal, borderline crazy. 426 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: Who's great. But I gotta go Parcels. He was just 427 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: to me, he was kind of a titan. He certainly 428 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: his press conferences were not boring. No, And you know what, 429 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: I never really got to I mean I went to 430 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: some of his pressers. I never covered him one on 431 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: one per se or you know, Tom Coughlin's a favorite 432 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: of mine too. I did get to know him a 433 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: little bit and I really liked him. But I did 434 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: speak with Parcels for this book project that I was 435 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: telling you about, and he was fabulous, And you know, 436 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: he's much older now, but the time we spoke, you know, 437 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: he couldn't have been more gracious. And he was, you know, 438 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: he was exactly who he is. Like even said to 439 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: me at one point, like, how'd you get my number? 440 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: And then I explained to him what I was, because 441 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: I think he thought I was like digging for Belichick 442 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: dirt and he go. He even said to me at 443 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: one point, I could tell you this, even said to me, 444 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: you know, Seth Wickersham recently wrote a book about the 445 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Patriots internal struggles there at the end, you know, it's 446 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: better to be feared, I think was Wickersham's book, and 447 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: what I called parcels. Wickersham was in the process of 448 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: working on it, and he said to me, are you 449 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: working with Seth Wickersham? And I said, no, it's got 450 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, you know. So he was awesome, 451 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was awesome, Tony. We can't 452 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: forget about your newest edition. I'm sorry your work on 453 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: the Red Sox and your color. Tell me about that 454 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: before I let you go. You know, I won't bore 455 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: you with too much of it, other than to say 456 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: it kind of came out of nowhere, buzz like I 457 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: was surprised. I did not see it coming. And you know, 458 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: we were talking about the day John Henry came into 459 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: the studio. Was you know, my relationship with the Red 460 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: Sox over the years has been as you would expect, 461 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: hot and cold, and so, you know, I along the 462 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: way there were times where the relationships are tense and 463 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: still are so when there's you know, obviously they own netson, 464 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: they have a saying who does their games. So I was, 465 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, both floored and impressed. Like I give them 466 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for being willing to entertain it. 467 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it. It's been a fun year. You know, 468 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do about you know all it'll be about 469 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: forty games, you know where it's leading. I have no idea. 470 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: You know, obviously they can ask me back or not 471 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: at any time. Oh man, what fun. But it's been cool. Yeah, 472 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. You know. I've enjoyed 473 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: being at the ballpark again, which is somewhere I hadn't 474 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: been in a long time. And the work on your 475 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Baseball Hour is amazing too. It's just that's such a 476 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I know it's a labor of love, but I know 477 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work involved in it. So congratulate 478 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: on that, Appreciate it on everything on the book. Give 479 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: the book a plug one more time. So the book 480 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: is This is Our City, which again was the editor, 481 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: I say the editor, former editor susan Canadian who came 482 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: up with the idea. You know, she wanted to play 483 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: off the RT speech and she was right. So this 484 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: is Our City and just really recounts the twenty years 485 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: in Boston here and the winning and the you know, 486 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: some of the scandal and controversy you all built around sports. 487 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun to do and it'll 488 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: be out in October. It's then go get it, order it, 489 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: pre order it, buy it for Christmas. All the above, 490 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot us well, congratulations on everything. Thanks for 491 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: taking a walk. This has really been a ton of fun, 492 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: and thanks for you know, not only the enjoyment you 493 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: give to the masses, but my personal enjoyment for which 494 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: the station does and for your show does with you 495 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: and Mike, because I'm a big fan. Well, thanks a lot, 496 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: and really I'm plattered that you would even ask. I 497 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thanks for taking a walk here in Concord, 498 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: taking a walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 499 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.