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Speaker 1: First of all, I would say, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You one of my favorite players, men or women, no matter,

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Speaker 2: just that basketball. You one of my favorite players ever.

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Speaker 2: And I'm definitely appreciated, we both definitely appreciate to have

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Speaker 2: you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me west right here.

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Speaker 2: First question we asked us when you first made it

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Speaker 2: to the w n B A, who's the first person

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Speaker 2: to but show at.

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Speaker 5: Oh Dad, You're gonna come at me like that right away,

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Speaker 5: straight away, right away.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know about I don't know.

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Speaker 4: About that, but listen, you forget. I'm a defender around here.

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Speaker 3: I went.

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Speaker 6: So I went four years at Tennessee, and I learned

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Speaker 6: how to play defense underneath Pat. So by the time

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Speaker 6: I got to the Poles, sat out my first year.

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Speaker 6: I tol my ac on my team in college, so

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Speaker 6: I have front row seat my rookie season, really to

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Speaker 6: be around the game and learn it and see the players.

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Speaker 3: But I would say the team.

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Speaker 6: Let me not just say a player, but the team.

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Speaker 6: I would say the dechoice Shock, okay, avoid, you know,

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Speaker 6: led by Bill Lambia, definitely was the team overall that

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Speaker 6: was the hardest for.

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Speaker 2: Me to go Again, they had some hitters too, that's

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Speaker 2: when they win them championship.

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, swim cash.

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Speaker 6: Katie Smith, she was the player that I always said,

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Speaker 6: the hardest one, that the hardest one for me to

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Speaker 6: go up again.

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Speaker 4: Katy Smith was tough. She was a bucket Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 5: We live on location, me and d Miles here in Orlando.

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Speaker 5: But today we got something special. This is Hall of Fames.

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Speaker 5: That is right here, one of the adults to ever

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Speaker 5: do with women or men. We're gonna stay right here

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Speaker 5: this time. This is Indiana Fever's finest. Miss Tamika Catchings

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Speaker 5: appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Brought to you by Di Stock. I remember when I

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Speaker 4: first saw you, well heard about you.

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Speaker 5: It was when you were at Stevenson, you and your

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Speaker 5: sister playing Take me back to that when you got going,

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Speaker 5: and then being at your dad who he was, how

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Speaker 5: was coming up for you?

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Speaker 4: Playing ball? When did you start?

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Speaker 3: So we got started in third grade.

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Speaker 6: But when you fast forward, like, my father played eleven

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Speaker 6: years in the NBA, So we moved around a lot

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Speaker 6: with him. His last year. I was in the second grade,

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Speaker 6: actually first grade. We moved Italy for a year and

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Speaker 6: then we came back to the States and kind of

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Speaker 6: settled in a little bit, but by the time we

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Speaker 6: got to high school. Yeah, just being on the same

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Speaker 6: team with my sister and we're not twin, We're twenty

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Speaker 6: one months apart.

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Speaker 3: She's the oldest.

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Speaker 6: I'm the baby of the three of us, and I

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Speaker 6: just remember being on the court with her. You talk

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Speaker 6: about like the twin they have that sixth.

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Speaker 1: Cent Yeah, yeah, and we had.

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Speaker 3: It, you know, like literally I would get a rebound

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Speaker 2: Already where already know what she do. I'll get it

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Speaker 2: to it in a sweet spot, get it to the layout.

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Speaker 5: I can remember, because you know, I'm in high school

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Speaker 5: coming through the same time, and I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 5: they showing that Stevenson that got the catching sis. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 5: who who is these guys? Then looking at y'all numbers

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Speaker 5: and y'all was both killing. I was like, man, that

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Speaker 4: Like dope, good days, man, those are.

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Speaker 3: The good days.

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Speaker 5: Tell me this was it in high school that you

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Speaker 5: got the like when did you record the quintuplet?

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Speaker 1: The quintuplet?

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Speaker 4: Double?

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Speaker 1: Am I saying it right?

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Speaker 5: Because that's so crazy, like you twenty five points eighteen rebounds,

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Speaker 5: eleven that sais ten steals, ten blocks?

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Speaker 1: Who the hell do that?

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Speaker 4: Like in the game, Like this ain't no video game.

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Speaker 1: You must had that billion dollar bacon after that game.

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Speaker 5: Like for real, that's crazy, Like who who registers those

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Speaker 1: Like was that in high school?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What happened after that game?

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Speaker 6: It's crazy because they told me after the game and

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Speaker 6: even at that point, like okay, like everybody does that.

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Speaker 4: Shut somebody up, right, everybody does that.

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Speaker 6: But that's just the way that you play, you know,

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Speaker 6: the way that I play, And I love the game,

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Speaker 6: and I think for me, I always just wanted to

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Speaker 6: be the best, not compared to anybody else, Like there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of great We talk about the goats of

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Speaker 6: the game, and I.

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Speaker 3: Don't you wanted to go.

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Speaker 1: Everything.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna we gonna let it be non no one

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Speaker 5: of them. You don't see yourself that way. You're viewed

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Speaker 5: that way. You wanted to go, go ahead, proceed.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, guys. I just want to be the best.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I always wanted to be the best.

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Speaker 6: And even even when I was younger, I could just

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Speaker 6: see myself like running all over the place playing defense,

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Speaker 6: trying to help everybody else be great, and uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it just kind of happened.

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Speaker 2: Any other college could have got you or almost got

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Speaker 2: you over Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: So I went on for a visit. I went to

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Speaker 6: USC ten of Tom Sidley schlest Like.

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Speaker 3: I was like, right.

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Speaker 6: I went to Arkansas coach Blair, Gary Blair. I wanted

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Speaker 3: I went to Tennessee and I went to Illinois because

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Speaker 3: Taja was that. But I went and I just kind

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Speaker 6: Ty said, she said, I know where your heart is.

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Speaker 6: I know your heart is at Tennessee. Don't come here

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Speaker 6: just because of me. And when she released me like that,

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Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, find my name on the line

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Speaker 6: going to Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely do.

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Speaker 1: One of the questions I always wanted to ask you.

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Speaker 2: We heard how tough Pat Summit is and I haven't

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Speaker 2: watched your career since long, long time ago, and you

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Speaker 2: was like always the shade girl.

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Speaker 1: And I used to be like, man, like, did that

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Speaker 2: How tough she was on y'all, Like, how was it

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Speaker 2: for Pat Summer to be your coach?

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Speaker 6: I don't think you go to like one of the

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Speaker 6: your head every single day.

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Speaker 3: And that's where Pat was.

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Speaker 6: You know, she demanded excellent from us at every single level,

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Speaker 6: on every single possession.

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Speaker 3: Offensive, Van, I want you to be great, defensive.

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Speaker 6: End, I want you to be great, And I mean

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Speaker 6: you don't go to Tennessee without knowing that and without

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Speaker 6: having those expectations of yourself.

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Speaker 2: And then we use the It was the three weeks,

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Speaker 2: and the three weeks took off, Like everybody knew the

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Speaker 2: three weeks y'all team, y'all squad to win them championships

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Speaker 2: and to play with Shamika when all them like how

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Speaker 4: To build that?

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Speaker 1: Like the world know y'all as the three weeks well.

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Speaker 3: Playing with Shmik with hoes, Claud just period hand down.

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Speaker 6: People ask me all the time, who is the player

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Speaker 6: the hardest to guard? And I mean you always go

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Speaker 6: for a player that's on the other side, But like

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Speaker 6: going up against me every day, I swear like there'd

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Speaker 6: be some times I'm like, I know I got her lockdown.

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Speaker 3: And y'all have seen her play.

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Speaker 6: She turn around, make a move so smooth and just

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Speaker 3: But I love it. I mean I love it.

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Speaker 6: I love the way that she played because she pushed

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Speaker 6: me every day in practice. And then Samika we call

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Speaker 6: her the glove. Talk about lockdown, defend time in the floor.

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Speaker 6: You know, remember one used to do those deep intive

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Speaker 6: drilling do it like that would me? And and just

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Speaker 6: to be in that group, you know, the three of

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Speaker 6: being a three Meek, but right off the batch, Pat would.

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Speaker 3: Say hey meet and we'd all so we had to

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Speaker 3: come up with some new names.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't when you first heard it, though, Like when

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Speaker 2: you first heard the three Meeks, how was that for you?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this dope, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, being affiliated with Shamik Wall Like she was one

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Speaker 6: even being in the same sense, I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: like the three that all good things coming throughs, isn't.

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Speaker 3: That what they said?

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Speaker 5: Tell me this though, after your you know, you get

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Speaker 5: the Tennessee your freshman year, tell me, were you expecting

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Speaker 5: a perfect season? Like y'all had just tell me how

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Speaker 5: that season was to go undefeated and just the world

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Speaker 5: dominate the way y'all did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy because they had the Cinderella season before that.

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Speaker 6: Y'all remember they won before and had the Cinderella and

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Speaker 6: awesome games, and it's kind of like it's supposed to

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Speaker 6: be their year. So when we came in, I definitely

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Speaker 6: wasn't expecting us to go undefeated. But when I tell y'all, like,

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Speaker 6: practices were so hard every single day they were blood.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's just hot. That's how hard we went

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Speaker 6: against each other. Sometimes the practices were.

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Speaker 3: Harder than the game. We got down to the end.

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Speaker 6: We were at Vandy, I think it was maybe Elite

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Speaker 6: eight playing against North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: And we were down.

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Speaker 6: I think we were down like ten or eleven with

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Speaker 3: Tennessee, she came.

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Speaker 6: She swammed the stool down and she was like, we

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Speaker 6: will not lose this game, and like something click, we

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Speaker 6: won the game.

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Speaker 3: And after that I was like, yeah, we were like

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Speaker 3: we're going we're gonna win this year. We're going all

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Speaker 3: the way and we won, and I just after that

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Speaker 3: was like, man, so lookie, the freshman, like if this

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Speaker 3: is the way college.

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Speaker 5: Ashman, you walk in the door and y'all don't lose

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Speaker 5: a game, and you're looking around like, yeah, I can

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Speaker 5: get used to this year.

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Speaker 6: And then sophomore year came and then yeah, my first

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Speaker 6: law in college was to Purdue. Carolyn Pecker was the

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Speaker 6: head coach. Stephitie Whites on that team, Katie Douglas card

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Speaker 6: figs like they came out.

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Speaker 3: The gates just like boom. We didn't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think we ever knew what hit us. And

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Speaker 6: then by the time we looked at me like oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh, like we lost the game.

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Speaker 2: We talked about defensive player. You know, we're a defenders,

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Speaker 2: you know, me and you we played defense, So when.

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Speaker 4: Why why didn't you take you?

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Speaker 2: Why we can talk about you know, real defenders talk.

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Speaker 2: It's the segment for real defenders, so you know us

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Speaker 2: as being defenders. How was it for you? You know, Pat

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Speaker 2: was just on you about playing defense. How was for

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Speaker 3: What a tribute to Pat?

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Speaker 6: I mean I went in my freshman year in college

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Speaker 3: They set the tone for my whole four years at Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: But I literally rolled up and we were doing one

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Speaker 3: The pat always had open gym.

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Speaker 6: We'd have fans shitting in there, like you would almost

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Speaker 6: the five four, Sammie Randall, Kristian h. Clement, Teresa Jetter,

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Speaker 6: defensive drill. Now, I told y'all, like I like defense,

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Speaker 6: but in high school, like I, I was more the

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Speaker 6: we had a thing that we're cool, we're doing this

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Speaker 6: defensive drill. Were lined up on the right side, offensive player,

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Speaker 6: And I got my defensive stance and I just heard

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Speaker 6: this can't be the way we play defense. Because I

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Speaker 6: But there's all these people around. So I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: Up the second time and get back on my defensive

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Speaker 6: Look, she said, get your butt down, in your arm out.

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Speaker 6: I said, okay, butt down, arms out. I got beat

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Speaker 3: Now I'm pit.

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Speaker 6: I was mad before, but now I'm like, boyln and

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Speaker 6: y'all know how you are when you get to that point.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So I go back to the end of line, finally

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Speaker 6: The line, and I'm mad. I'm just like, this is crazy.

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Speaker 6: This is not how you play d In my head,

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Speaker 6: this is not how you play defense. There's no way

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Speaker 3: So I get up the third.

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Speaker 6: Time, patterns like behind the basket. She's over there talking

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Speaker 6: I heard her voice say what and everything just stopped

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Speaker 3: Their mouths were wide open.

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Speaker 6: And I realized and I'm like, did I say that?

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Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my god, get your butt down,

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Speaker 6: get your arm dot And so I get.

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Speaker 3: Down in a stance and I'm like, I can't believe

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Speaker 3: I said that. So then I walked so like after

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Speaker 6: End of the line. She said, come on, come on

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Speaker 6: have to handle you with lace gloves, And that was

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Speaker 3: You're playing like a girl. I'm I gonna have to

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, no, no, She said, am I gonna

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Speaker 6: in that moment, I was like, if I go home,

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Speaker 6: bad for her. And literally, after factors, I went, you know,

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Speaker 6: we got do practice.

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Speaker 3: I went up to the office after practice apologize. I

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Speaker 3: was like, I so sorry. I don't know what got

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Speaker 5: Mister and missus Kesues did a good job raised because

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Speaker 5: anybody like they had them pins like we had. They know,

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Speaker 5: whenever you in that critical situation, you don't think about

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Speaker 5: the police. You don't think about this, you don't think

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Speaker 5: about jail. You think about your mommy and your daddy

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Speaker 5: like they gonna kiss me.

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Speaker 6: So, needless to say, we had a great relationship after

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Speaker 6: the four. If I had to go out to five,

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Speaker 6: I could do that too, And it just kind of

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Speaker 6: translated to the pros. The game got quicker, and y'all know,

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Speaker 6: like it's a make jump, right, So having to learn

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Speaker 1: There you went four of them, like the other thing

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Speaker 1: that you will get you four.

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Speaker 4: In the books, and we sure didn't win those years.

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Speaker 2: One of the thing, the piggyback off of you said,

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 1: Its like, man, should I be here right now?

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Speaker 2: Because every player we had, like like Kansas said it,

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Speaker 2: people said it was like man, everybody was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me second, Should I go and change my mind

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Speaker 1: Going back, We'll let you.

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Speaker 5: Know that she a real one though, because these are

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Speaker 5: her superstars, just like yeah, that she dug into them.

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Speaker 5: And that's what makes legends legend though. That's what be

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Speaker 5: refreshing to hear about it.

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Speaker 1: How you know they ready? You make it out of there?

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Speaker 1: You ready?

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Speaker 3: You gotta be ready. But that's the difference between back

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Speaker 6: I mean, we got to transfer portal and this thing

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Speaker 6: is aren't crazy with player transfern, But it's like you

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Speaker 6: have to learn how to dig.

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Speaker 3: You had to learn how to dig deep.

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Speaker 6: Things don't happen the way you want them to, Like

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Speaker 6: you figure out a way to get over that hump.

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Speaker 3: But that's the difference.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we had to go through that and

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Speaker 6: it made us stronger.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was totally unaware. Like I got one of

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Speaker 5: our best friends coaches in college now and it's like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, what that?

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Speaker 5: What is a transfer portal? You're like, man, it's this

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Speaker 5: new thing, bro. I'm like, and they could play right away, like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we had out a whole We was like, nah, we

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Speaker 5: home and you said your whole program you can't afford that.

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Speaker 5: Like now it's like you could just move around. It's

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Speaker 5: like it's gotta be the wild wild West, Like people's

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Speaker 5: hoving while you were ouse?

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Speaker 4: How do you you know what I'm saying? How you

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Speaker 4: say I'm going here? Is they not recruiting you? Somehow?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 6: But what about loyalty? Remember more than we like you

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Speaker 6: almost thought. I mean, I've been in Indiana my whole

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Speaker 6: and can't imagine being in el Yeah, but like in college,

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Speaker 6: when I went to Tennessee, even after that first interaction

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Speaker 3: I still I thought about leaving, but I was like

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Speaker 3: that I can't see myself anywhere else. Yeah, no, player

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I get it because like even back then,

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Speaker 5: you know, it would be certain situations where it's like,

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Speaker 5: like first thing you gonna go, right, I'm out of here,

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Speaker 5: is like its you gotta have some type of resiliency

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Speaker 5: with it and give it that, you know, give it

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Speaker 4: It's like I can move around.

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Speaker 3: I'm moving well, it's like to get rich quick skill.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like I'm not gonna play here, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: go somewhere else. And then what if you don't play

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Speaker 6: that exactly another school? It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Tell me about when you finally got drafted, Like you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like that's all of us hoopers.

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Speaker 4: That's one of those moments of achievement, you know what

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Speaker 5: When we walk across that stage shape the commissioner's hand and.

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Speaker 4: Just tell me how that was. That moment was for you.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, man.

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Speaker 6: I literally have dreamed about going to the NBA. My

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Speaker 6: goal switch to the w NBA my freshman year in college.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, they got four years to get it right,

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Speaker 6: and then I'm gonna be there tearing my a cl

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Speaker 6: and Martin Luther King junior day my senior year season

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Speaker 6: over like it's done. Your drafters three months later, yeah, like,

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Speaker 6: who's gonna draft you?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So they send me up to Jersey.

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Speaker 6: We go up there on my cutchers and all that,

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Speaker 6: and I'm you know, getting dolled up and all that,

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Speaker 3: Was sitting there.

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Speaker 6: First pick goes Lauren Jackson going out to Seattle, second

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Speaker 3: Miller going to Charlotte. Third pick. Indiana's on the clock,

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Speaker 3: and then.

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Speaker 6: You know how you have like an outer body experience,

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Speaker 6: Like I heard my name.

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Speaker 3: I was like, did they call my name? Around? Like

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Speaker 3: looking around like, oh that me?

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Speaker 6: You know? And I cut your down so excited and

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Speaker 6: they asked like they shove the mic, like what do

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Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, they played basketball, who's your state? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: But I mean and I say this all the time,

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Speaker 6: but what a blessing. I mean, if I would have

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Speaker 6: I mean, unfortunately their team didn't last that long and

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Speaker 6: family lives up here, majority of them do, and my

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Speaker 6: brother's close by. So like it just Draft Day was amazing,

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Speaker 6: but just the community overall, the organization, the Simon family,

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Speaker 4: When you were at Tennessee, y'all.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously y'all were sold out, y'all were a

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean you just said it, everything just getting

447
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 6: going and the fever.

448
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: We weren't a team that started from the beginning.

449
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 6: We're definitely an expansion team, and so like most expansion team,

450
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 6: it takes a couple of years to.

451
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 4: Get the ball going.

452
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 6: So you know, when I by the time I got

453
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 6: on the court and coming from Tennessee, I wasn't really

454
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 6: used to like losing like that. And first year we

455
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 6: didn't do too well. I don't even remember what our

456
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 6: record was, but I determined. I was like, okay, like

457
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 6: every year, we just got to get better every year

458
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 6: and the fans will come. And I say, two thousand

459
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 6: and nine was probably one of my proudest moments. We

460
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 6: got all the way to the finals. We lost to Phoenix.

461
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 6: That's not my proud moment. But after that, I was

462
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 6: on my way up north and I stopped at a

463
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 6: gas station and probably about two hours away from Indianapolis,

464
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 6: and I'm at the gas station and I see this

465
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 6: guy walking toward me, and so I'm literally like, Okay,

466
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 6: what will I do if he like get too close.

467
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 6: I'm like scheming in my head, what can happen to

468
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 6: be come Dio closed. I'm gonna have to, like, you know,

469
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 6: no offense. I'm not a violent person, but I'm gonna

470
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 6: have to kick him on out thinking And all of

471
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 6: a sudden he was like, oh my gosh, you're tweaking

472
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 6: catching I'm like yeah, And then he was like, oh

473
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 6: my gosh, I watched Indiana Fever this year and he

474
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 6: was like Everidy Hoffman and Tammy something Brown and beyond

475
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 6: January Jessica Devin.

476
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: For I mean, he named Ottle team.

477
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 6: And up until that point, everybody knew that the Fever

478
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 6: was like a Meeker catching team. But that was the

479
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 6: first time in the beginning, really that people started recognizing us,

480
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 6: like we're not just t Meka, it's not just her,

481
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 6: it's a whole team. And people started like coming in

482
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 6: flocks after that. I mean, we sold out two thousand

483
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 6: and nine. It was awesome. And then after that, like

484
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 6: we just kept rising up. That's what we're trying to get.

485
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 5: Back to take me back to like L A c. L.

486
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 5: And then you had to go to the draft on crushes,

487
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 5: you end up missing your whole rookie year, but then

488
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: you come back and win Rookie of the Year, Like.

489
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: How was that for your confidence?

490
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 5: Because I know, you know, any of us know if

491
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 5: we come in as rookie, you trying, you all excited

492
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 5: about like you just been your dream.

493
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 4: You want to play in the NBA.

494
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 5: Now you switch it to the w NBA and then

495
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 5: you finally get there, but you hurt, but then you

496
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 5: get to come back that next year and really get off,

497
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 5: Like how was that for your confidence in your game.

498
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 6: Well great, I mean that's definitely a confidence builder to

499
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 6: start off your career like that.

500
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: But when I get major.

501
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 6: Pop, I worked out with Carlos Knack and our assistant

502
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 6: coach Julie playing every day.

503
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 3: Every day.

504
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 6: We were in the gym for hours, just get me

505
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 6: back and from the beginning to the end.

506
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 3: And then Q if you laugh at them. I ended

507
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: up playing.

508
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 6: They have the NWBL up in Chicago, so I played

509
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 6: for the Chicago Blade. I would I would literally be

510
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 6: in market Monday through Friday, training every single day, and

511
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 6: then I would drive up to Chicago and play in

512
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 6: the games on the weekend and then come back because

513
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 6: I was on a marketing deal out here, but I determined.

514
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 6: I was like, I got to have a good year

515
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 6: and I don't want to I don't want to get

516
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 6: out there, just totally like so I wanted to play

517
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 6: before we got started and played for the Blade. We

518
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 6: had a good season up there, but came back and

519
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, when we got back, I

520
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 6: was ready to play and our team was.

521
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 3: Our team was getting better. We're our way. We can

522
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: only go up from there.

523
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: This is right in the WNBA for a player to

524
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: play for one team. How proud are you to play

525
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: for one team your whole career and I only played

526
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: for one team. You lead them to a championship before

527
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: you get on up out of it, Like, how proud

528
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: is that for you?

529
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: I mean, superploud, superploud now very And I.

530
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 6: Think it goes back to the loyalty part of it, right,

531
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I first off, we have like a.

532
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: It's called the core where you can't leave.

533
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 6: And then once you get beyond the core, I mean,

534
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 6: you got to have the franchise player. So once you

535
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 6: get beyond that, you know you have the opportunity to

536
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 6: kind of go. And even when I got to that

537
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 6: point of being able to go to another team or

538
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 6: another organization, that really was like Okay, I'm gonna go

539
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 6: somewhere else and do what like started over, we ran

540
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 6: rebuilding me a different Candide went back to Chicago, she

541
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 6: from Shy. You know, it's differently, it's just a different field, right,

542
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 6: It's just different.

543
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Speaking about the championship that've run.

544
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: In the championship, like watching their playoffs and watching y'all play,

545
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: and watching you play, it seemed like you put your

546
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: whell on every single game that y'all played there, it

547
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: was it was a no brainer that y'all was gonna win.

548
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: And you know, that was the underdog in the championship

549
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: for you to pull that off and just to play

550
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: them games and seemed like.

551
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: You every game you left it all the way out there.

552
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: So how was that for you? The championship run and

553
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: holding that trophy up?

554
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like it was straight from the Bible,

555
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 6: David and Goliath, right, Like nobody expected us to win,

556
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 6: and that's what I like, That's what we talked about.

557
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 6: It say, hey, we win games. We just got to

558
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 6: win one game at a time until we get to three.

559
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 6: Don't I want to look at whenning the whole thing?

560
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 6: We did that In two thousand and nine, we were

561
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: up again Phoenix. She was like, oh yeah, we're about

562
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 6: to get there.

563
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: And then Diana Tobasa, Jenny Taylor, don't forget about Cappy

564
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: podduct Sure.

565
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah we came back and what yeah.

566
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 6: So we ain't gonna have that happen again. And we

567
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 6: I mean literally we came out. It was like our

568
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 6: backstor against the wall. But nobody expects us to win.

569
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 6: To just go and put everything out on the court,

570
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 6: every single night, and that's what we did. We came

571
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 6: out at the championship and I remember the media saying

572
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 6: before we went in they have bets like y'all talking

573
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 6: about the over under bet.

574
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: They were like, oh, they get swept, and I was like,

575
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: they don't even give us one day.

576
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: That had to make it, you know, a little bit

577
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: most at the end of the day, like you remember

578
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 4: you're wrong, say it.

579
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: I heard you.

580
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: Though I heard you.

581
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 6: I can go find the articles right over here. I

582
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 6: think I might have saved those little motivations.

583
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: You and KG or like my players like y'all to

584
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: remind me so much of each other, versatility, all that stuff.

585
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: Who brought the versatility to your game? Who brought the

586
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: style of I can play any position on the floor

587
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: because every player can't do that with you. You one

588
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: of the first that I seen kind of mastering that

589
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: just forward point. You know, I'm guarding the point guard,

590
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: I got hit the three. I gotta guard at this guard?

591
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: Like how is that for you? And who taught you

592
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: to be versatile all around the court?

593
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: I think it's the street.

594
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 6: I literally, as a youngster was at the basketball court

595
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 6: anytime I could, and definitely through any emotion that I felt.

596
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 6: When I was mad, I was at the court, when

597
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 6: I was happy, I was at the court, when I

598
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 6: was sad. I was at the court. And I would

599
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 6: play with any and everybody.

600
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: But I think as.

601
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 6: Far as like who groomed it, it would be pat

602
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 6: you know, when I got to Tennessee, and you just

603
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 6: get used to playing a lot of different positions. And

604
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 6: I think a lot of the coaches that I like,

605
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 6: my high school coaches, when I look back, they put

606
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 6: me in a lot.

607
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: Of different situation.

608
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 6: But you don't never think about it like I'm the

609
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 6: one or the two or the three that you're kind

610
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 6: of like, oh.

611
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: I got the ball, I got a rebound, like dribble

612
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: the ball up the court. And my dad, you know,

613
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: my dad was part of that.

614
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 6: I mean we'd have Sunday nights, we'd have family night

615
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 6: at the court and he'd.

616
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: Have all the older guys that be in the gym,

617
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: and I remember begging him.

618
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm good enough to play with them, Like

619
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 6: I can't let you get hurt.

620
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: If I take you home hurt, your mother would kill me.

621
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: I would always be sitting on the shide and like

622
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: they won't let me play with the growing up.

623
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 6: But hey, you know, I finally got my chance, and

624
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 6: I would assume that I didn't let my dad down.

625
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: Who was the players?

626
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: Who's the women that you used to see coming up,

627
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: even men or women that you've seen coming up that

628
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: she was like, man, I want to play like her

629
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: or be like him.

630
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 6: The WNBA didn't come until my freshman year in college,

631
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 6: so up until that point, like Eliona Morning was my favorite,

632
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 6: and I just always like, ah, so I just felt

633
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 6: like he was one of those players that could do

634
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 6: anything you ever hit team needed for him.

635
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: He could do it. He could score, he could defend.

636
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 6: Seem like a good leader at that point in time,

637
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 6: and U you know even now like I consider him

638
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: one of my mentors. And then uh I fast forward

639
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 6: to the ninety six Olympic team. I mean honestly, watching

640
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 6: that team win the gold medal and watching Don and

641
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 6: Lisa and Ryl, I was like, man, I want to

642
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 6: be an Olympian, Like that's what I want to do

643
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 6: when I go.

644
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: I want to be an Olympian.

645
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 6: I want to be I wanted to be in the NBA,

646
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 6: be with you guys over there, like I wanted to

647
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 6: be with you guys, and then the w K my

648
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 6: goal switch. But that ninety six Olympic team really helped

649
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 6: me set my next standard of being being Olympic part.

650
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 5: I think people really realize how big that was for

651
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: US kids in the nineties because we've had a few

652
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: of the different you know, Dream Team one and Dream Team.

653
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: Two guys on it, both of them.

654
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: Like ninety two was crazy, but like you saying, ninety six,

655
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: I mean every time it came around, it was like

656
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: you knew it was about to go crazy. You're gonna

657
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: have to McDonald's cups and everything was gonna be USA Olympics.

658
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: Then it was just like this is the time where

659
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: no matter what city you're from, you know, it's not

660
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: about Chicago or the Lakers or this it's about the

661
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: USA and you cheering for all of your favorite players.

662
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 5: So like, like that's crazy to hear how it really

663
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: impacted all of the different people in different ways on

664
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: the men and women's side of it, and you.

665
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: See that now.

666
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 6: I mean, we're gearing up for another Olympics, although it's

667
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 6: on the off yeard, right, but.

668
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: People are excited. I had my USA jacket on the

669
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: other day, and you know, I gotten about just walking

670
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: and people are like, yeah, USA, and that's what it's

671
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: all about.

672
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 6: Like it's not me being part of the Indiana Fever

673
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 6: or any other team. It's really about, Hey, we come

674
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 6: together and it's a gold standard, Like we don't come

675
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 6: back without the goal.

676
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: That's just the standard that we set.

677
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: One thing the Olympics do on the women's side, they

678
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: always get it right because they like every Olympics, it'd

679
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: be a dream team out there. Get us sometime about

680
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love watching the women's play more

681
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: than anything because it's like, man, they played good basketball.

682
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: It looked like y'all having fun and y'all always win.

683
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 5: So I helped my right to tell me how to

684
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 5: feel when you finally got there and you brought home

685
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: the goal for the country.

686
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: How was that feeling like?

687
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 5: From coming back from when you were watching in ninety

688
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 5: six to your first gold medal.

689
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Two thousand and four was crazy?

690
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 6: And so I told you, guys, I tore my hyo

691
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: two thousand and one, came back, made the senior team

692
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 6: two thousand and two for the World Championship, and then

693
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 6: coming off of that coming back and you know, having

694
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 6: the opportunity to play for my first Olympic. But we're

695
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 6: considered the rookie, so it's still like the ones that

696
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 6: are doing all the stuff for older players.

697
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know, we know that. Yeah, and you don't really.

698
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 6: Have a boys because you got all these older players.

699
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I was like, oh, man, I'm playing with

700
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 6: Don and Lisa and sheryln.

701
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna stay in my lane what i need

702
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: to do.

703
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: And the bad thing about it, like y'all know, when

704
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 6: you're the youngest one, you get all the blunt of

705
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 6: all of that, right, So.

706
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: Churel would get beat on defense bad and be like.

707
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: Catch, yeah, why did you get me?

708
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Like I was.

709
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: I was on the bus play like you too, used

710
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: to calling my damn name, man.

711
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: So it was.

712
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 6: It was a rough year, but we came out with

713
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 6: the gold and I'm just like, I'm so grateful for

714
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: that expand I'm so grateful for ban, you know, giving

715
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: me the opportunity of that first Olympic game. My teammates

716
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 6: were amazing, and that was just the beginning. So two

717
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 6: thousand and four, eight, twelve, and sixteen and finish.

718
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: One of the players that used to play with you

719
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: is Ivy. She's from Saint Louis and I always used

720
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: to watch her play and now she's a no the

721
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: Dame doing a coaching thing, and I know she's been

722
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: there a lot of years in Indiana witches, Like, how

723
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: proud of you to see her doing a coaching thing

724
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: and the Dame and you know, got them girls going.

725
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: Man, isn't that awesome.

726
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 6: It's just like you look at like we're all the

727
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 6: same age relatively, so look at the people that we

728
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: played with and you see what they're doing now where

729
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 6: they're gone. You know, people on TV, y'all doing your

730
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 6: thing right here. You know, it's just about impact. And

731
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 6: Neiella has been like watching her and then seeing Jade

732
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 6: and Jayden that her dude killing freshman. She then you know,

733
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 6: came out. I know he's upset about how they performed

734
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 6: in the playoffs and.

735
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: Like, dude, like you got you got three more years.

736
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 6: Maybe he may or may not, right, he might go

737
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 6: pall soon knows, but you know, I think for Neil,

738
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 6: just what she's been able to do. Went to Memphis

739
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 6: coach there for a little bit with the Grizzlies, got

740
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 6: some experience and not like you're the head coach.

741
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: I know, the day behind Muffett mcgrat, Are you kidding me? Awesome?

742
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's big time right there when I say she

743
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: got the job, and I'm definitely was proud of her,

744
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: and just to see where she's at now, it's just

745
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: it's dope to see that, to see.

746
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 6: An African American sisters like women being able to step

747
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: up and be an head coaching role at prestigious colleges.

748
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean like nor To Dame is a college that.

749
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: Everybody knows and you hear about it from the football side,

750
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 6: from the basketball side, But like to have Neil at

751
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 6: a young age in that role, in that position trying

752
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 6: to you know, get back to where they've been in

753
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 6: the previous year, and I know she will like we

754
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 6: all know, we know what you're capable of doing and

755
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 6: should be a great coach.

756
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: Straight up, You're a young African American female in a

757
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: prestigious position, you know, with the fever doing what you're doing,

758
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: and you are a person that's you know, being that

759
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: example is showing that we can do this on the

760
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 5: other side of basketball, and you're doing it in the

761
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: front office role. Tell me how you feel about a

762
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: lot of the advancements and the changes that are being

763
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: made to make things better for your women in the BNBA.

764
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: Well, the CBA was a start for the women and

765
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 6: really being able to provide more opportunity, you know. The

766
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: thing that kills you or killed me rather is all

767
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 6: the comparison, you know, the comparison from the w NBA

768
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 6: to the NBA.

769
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: And we're not the NBA.

770
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: Right.

771
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 6: This is our twenty fifth year of the w NBA,

772
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 6: and I know the NBA is like year sixty something

773
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 6: maybe more, I don't.

774
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: Know, you know, oh yeah, Like so to.

775
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: Make a comparison, there's no comparison from a twenty.

776
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 6: Five year old to a seventy I mean, let should

777
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 6: put this in perspective.

778
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: Of dating people and hopefully hopefully will not happen.

779
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 6: I think when you look at that, and you know,

780
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 6: especially for me in my position, I'm grateful because I've

781
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 6: been able to grow up in this organization. I always

782
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: tell people I've been here my whole adult life. This

783
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 6: is what I know Indiana and the opportunity that have

784
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: come from it, being able to you know, continue to

785
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: grow and learn and be, you know, under the stewardship

786
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 6: of the Simon and Rick Fusing and now my boss

787
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 6: now Alison Barber. Every day I feel like I'm in

788
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 6: a position of roll and to be a role model

789
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 6: for the next generation.

790
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: It's really important for me just to be able to

791
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: provide them opportunity.

792
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

793
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: Who are your favorite five women's player? Not your top five,

794
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: but your favorite five women's plauer.

795
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 3: My favorite five? Who are your favorite five?

796
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 7: My favorite favor my favorite Jianna Tassi, Maya Moore, to

797
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 7: make a catchings, Tina Thompson and Lisa les Okay, my.

798
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 6: Favorite Don Staley, Tina Thompson, Candace, Lisa Leslie and I

799
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 6: am gonna throw.

800
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: Cheryl flops Okay, who.

801
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: You got killed? HM, put you on the spot.

802
00:35:52,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Don Staley, Cheryl Miller, Cynthia Cooper kandas park.

803
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: Man Rassic.

804
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: Oh you're going small ball.

805
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: I know he had to go.

806
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 5: Everything like, let me hold up, I gotta go big,

807
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: let me get I'm gonna go Canis at the four.

808
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw your line, the Griffin, the fire that's

809
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 5: called I'm gonna shot like that.

810
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Boy, I like that.

811
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: I like that.

812
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, start bench cut, you gotta start one.

813
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: You gotta bench one. You gotta cut one. Candace Parker,

814
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Lisa Leslie, Tina Thompson.

815
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: Oh, that ain't right.

816
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: That's what you do every time. That's just what came

817
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: up with the question.

818
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: No, man, I'm starting all three of them.

819
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: Cut I definitely feel you on that. But Too said

820
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: the same thing when we hit it with with you

821
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: and Shaq and Alonzo.

822
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: He was like, Nah, you ain't setting me up.

823
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you a definitely not.

824
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 6: Definitely not if somebody gonna releas him all for real,

825
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 6: no dy all y'all on my squad.

826
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: If you have four other players for your former teammates,

827
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: you could pick for your former teammates college w n

828
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: B A who would beat the other four teammates that

829
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: you will play a game with?

830
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: Other four teammates?

831
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Olympic team? What else teammates?

832
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: Okay, well I will have done. I probably would have

833
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: the five that I just named. I definitely have done.

834
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 6: I'd have Let me think of all my teammates now,

835
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 6: because Schmik would need to be a man.

836
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Schmik was my three. My one. My two would

837
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: be I'm gonna go DT, I'm gonna go.

838
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: For Don Diana Shack one you and who is Sada?

839
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: Oh? I gotta I gotta have a five. I'm gonna go.

840
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Lisa. At at the end of the day,

841
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: Lisa got.

842
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: Them bows me.

843
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean with it too. Every time I see she

844
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: just be smiling.

845
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: I see you on the course, she be just meang

846
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: killing her, killing her.

847
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: Get you with the O. Yeah, that's a nice little

848
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: squad right there.

849
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: I love that.

850
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 5: I like that they tell me this is somebody. You

851
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: are a ten time All Star. That's a whole lot

852
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: of All Stars. By the way, I ain't getting hone

853
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: of them, you know what. I'm saying, those salute salutations

854
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 5: to that. But just tell me the difference of having

855
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: ten like your first All Star game your last. Tell

856
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 5: me the difference in between the two.

857
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 6: Every one you're excited about making the All Star Game,

858
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 6: let me just say that the first one is your first, right,

859
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 6: so you're like, oh my god, just my first time,

860
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 6: but your last one is like for me, I knew

861
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 6: it was getting toward the end of my career, and

862
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 6: so it's.

863
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: Kind of like you appreciate it more.

864
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 6: And I remember my last year was probably one of

865
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 6: the first years that we had a many young players

866
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 6: making Y'all Star Game and you're almost counseling the younger

867
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: players more than anything.

868
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you, like, following your career,

869
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: I remember you being in Tennessee and use the shot girl.

870
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: You weren't doing too many interviews and stuff, and being

871
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: as a fan, you know, you always want to see

872
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: the personality and see you. And then as you get

873
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: to the NBA, it's like, man, the growth of you.

874
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: You start to see the smile, the interviews, you talk

875
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: more and all that stuff tell us about that transition

876
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: of being more open to the world to show more

877
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: of yourself.

878
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 6: But I'm growing with a hearing disability, and so early

879
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 6: on I really I think from a comfort standpoint, I

880
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 6: really what uncomfortable because I got made fun of a

881
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 6: lot for the way that I sounded and not going

882
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 6: with the hearing problems, so I had to wear hairing

883
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 6: aide I still do wear hairing age and also had

884
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 6: a speech impediment, so I was always worried about like, oh, man,

885
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 6: if I get on the interview and I sound wrong

886
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 6: or you know, people are going to make fun of

887
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 6: the way that I look, or if I.

888
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: Stutter or say the wrong thing, like people are always going.

889
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: To be talking about you, and so I think for

890
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 6: me early on, it was just kind of like, let

891
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 6: me just be as invisible as I can and speak

892
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 6: through the sports that I played in the sports. And

893
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 6: my sister, I mean here, I don't know if you

894
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 6: remember this, but my sister used to do all my

895
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 6: interviews after the game. Yeah, after the game, the media

896
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 6: would come and want to interview me, and my sister,

897
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: like Taji would come out of nowhere and stand right

898
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 6: next to me.

899
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: All the questions they would ask me, she would answer

900
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: and I would just stand there.

901
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

902
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 6: But when I got to college, you know, like that

903
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 6: started to change pat a little bit over time, getting

904
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 6: more comfortable. I got back in the round my hearing

905
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 6: my freshman year of college, and then when I got

906
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 6: drafted my first year, same things, like I got the

907
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 6: marketing deal. And remember our community relation director, Lloyd Saddlefield.

908
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: She came up to me and she was like, Okay,

909
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: We're going to do a school tour. And I'm like, okay,

910
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: school tour, Like what did that entail? And she was like, well,

911
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: we're going to go.

912
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 6: We'll probably speak to like fifty middle school like speak

913
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 6: and I'm like, speak about what.

914
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: Me or you?

915
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 6: Like, no, we want you to speak, and I was like, no, no,

916
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 6: I don't do that. I don't speak, and she came

917
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 6: back a second time and asked me, and then finally

918
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 6: the third time, she was kind of like, okay, well

919
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 6: here's the deal, like, we signed you to a marketing deal,

920
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 6: so you really.

921
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: Don't have a choice.

922
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 6: And I literally my first speech we talked about the

923
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 6: fever for every victory earned respect, I wrote out of speech.

924
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 6: I stood in front of think about all these kids

925
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 6: sitting in the police. She was looking at you crazy,

926
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 6: and I chat with a piece of a pad of

927
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 6: paper and I read verbatim every single word on the paper,

928
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 6: and then I looked up.

929
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: That was my speech. And gradually, by you know.

930
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 6: About the tenth school, I kind of winging it a

931
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 6: little bit by the fifteen twentieth, and then finally I

932
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 6: got comfortable enough to be able to speak without having

933
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 6: that pad. But that's what it took. It took me

934
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 6: going through that. I'm like, I never thought I would

935
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: be thinking her for making me go and speak to

936
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 6: all these school But if I wouldn't have done that,

937
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: I would have never I don't think it would have

938
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 6: taken me a lot longer to get comfortable with hearing

939
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 6: my voice and to get comfortable with talking in front

940
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 6: of people.

941
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 5: I know that had to be like one of the

942
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 5: scariest things ever because I'm like, what you probably like

943
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 5: twenty two or something, right, Yeah, So the first time

944
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: I really stood up and, like you said, speaking in

945
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: front of an Auditorium'm like, I'm retired now, I'm retiring

946
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: from the NBA, and I that was the first go time.

947
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 5: Now I stepped into the auditorium, I'm like, like you said,

948
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 5: I don't have a piece of paper or nothing. It

949
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 5: was literally like you about to wing it, boy, And

950
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: it was like it was like six seven hundred people

951
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: or something of these these was college kids.

952
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't like little kids.

953
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there like in that moment, it was like, okay,

954
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: shit just got real. You got to tighten up, but

955
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: you gotta.

956
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 5: And it was like, like you said, I would slow

957
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: out the blocks, but like I can. That was probably

958
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 5: one of the scariest times getting up that that I've

959
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 5: had in my life.

960
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: Like, man, I'm kind of spoofed right now.

961
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 5: It was intimidating when you haven't done it before, Like

962
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 5: when I'm telling me you do.

963
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: It, I'm like cool. I talked all the time, I'm cool.

964
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: But then when I stepped I was like, oh, I'm like, okay,

965
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 5: don't get right.

966
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: You don't have a camera, you don't have something high,

967
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: you can't turn off.

968
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 5: The myself looking at you, you standing up by your

969
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 5: damn sulf, I was like, yeah, it's real.

970
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: Right now, what did you talk about?

971
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 5: Just talked about my story, my life, everything that I've

972
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 5: been through, and you know how I felt like, you know,

973
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 5: I just wanted to share my story to let people

974
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 5: know that like even in some of your down this

975
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 5: most darkest times, that you know that you can and

976
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: get through got persevering and just you know, having determination

977
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 5: and good people around you and trying to do the

978
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 5: right things. But even you know, sometimes we all fall,

979
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: we all make mistakes, all do bad things.

980
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm an example and this is the

981
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: example of imperfection that can still work out. At the

982
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 4: end of the day. You could be okay and now

983
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: look at you.

984
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what, you know we're up here trying

985
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: to do it do Yeah.

986
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: I was just happy for you, just in general, just

987
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: watching you you come up and just seeing your personality,

988
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: see you smile, see you talk more and how your

989
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: career ended, and just seeing you on camera just to

990
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: see where you're at now, just being a fan from

991
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: Yay High, Like it's dope to see you where you're

992
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: at now.

993
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you, guys. It's been a blessing,

994
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: you know.

995
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 6: And I think we can all attest to this as

996
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 6: far as like the village, the people that have been

997
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 6: around us, to the higher and the lows. I mean,

998
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 6: you go through injury, then you don't think like, hey,

999
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 6: you don't think you're ever going to get hurt, right,

1000
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 6: and then when it happened, you are facts like what

1001
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 6: am I gonna do?

1002
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1003
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: And fighting back and not just being a hundred but

1004
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: being better.

1005
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: Than you were. Yeah, tell me this.

1006
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: You have a different type of insight on Kobe than

1007
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 5: a lot of people. You knew Kobe as a as

1008
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: a young kid, when you know your dad and his.

1009
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 4: Played together in Italy.

1010
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: Just talk about a young Kobe, somebody that you know,

1011
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 5: people never really knew about how he was as a

1012
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 5: young kid.

1013
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: What's crazy because as a kid, we were just kids.

1014
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't.

1015
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 6: Think about like, you don't think about the future, and

1016
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 6: even at that age, I mean, shoot.

1017
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: We were what I was in first grade, he was

1018
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: in second grade.

1019
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: And then of course like my brother and my sister

1020
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 6: and his sisters being in Italy, it were different.

1021
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: Both of our dad played together in Philly and then dad.

1022
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 6: Got traded to UH to Milwaukee and then went to

1023
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 6: la for the Clippers for a bit, and Jellyban went

1024
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 6: over to Italy, and so like by the time we

1025
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 6: got there, it was more there's not a lot of

1026
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 6: African American.

1027
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: Family going around in Italy. We need to make sure

1028
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: that we get the family together.

1029
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 6: And they played on different teams, but we would get together,

1030
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 6: you know, often just to go see the site. Sometimes

1031
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 6: it was just a matter of like, let's should get together.

1032
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 6: And for me, like my motivation and my just like determination,

1033
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 6: what anything the boys could do, I could do too,

1034
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 6: And don't eliminate me just because I'm a girl, Like

1035
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: I'm a conboy to the floor.

1036
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: No cares in the world, no future, Like.

1037
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 6: Now we're talking, we're not talking about NBA, definitely not

1038
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 6: talking about w n B A.

1039
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 3: And UH and just living a dream.

1040
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's crazy.

1041
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, but is how did y'all keep it any type

1042
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 5: of touch or did he just the next time you

1043
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 5: really got to see him as when he became this

1044
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 5: high school feenw that everybody knew about.

1045
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: We moved back, they stayed in Italy, and next thing you.

1046
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 6: Know, Kobe Bryant and getting drafting.

1047
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: This is the kid that we would just.

1048
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 5: Saying exactly that's the part. So that's the next time

1049
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 5: you've seen him. It's like, yeah, he's this mega high

1050
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: school felie going to the NBA.

1051
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 4: That's crazy. That's crazy, right, And then so then.

1052
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 6: I mean, think about it, so he goes straight to

1053
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 6: the pros, I go four years to college and then

1054
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 6: by the time we come out, like even at that point,

1055
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 6: the time that we.

1056
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 4: Would talk is like All Star weekend.

1057
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 6: When we're crossing in the hall and it's like, oh no, like, hey,

1058
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 6: check in real quick, how'd your family, how'd everybody?

1059
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: Like go through the rundown? Everybody good?

1060
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: You good?

1061
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 3: Cool?

1062
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: All right?

1063
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: I see you next time. And you never and like

1064
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 6: this is the thing that killed me. You never imagine,

1065
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 6: you never think that. You just see people at being invincible.

1066
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 6: And we're young, right.

1067
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: We're young.

1068
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 6: So it's like the last time I saw a cold,

1069
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 6: like we were at All Star Weekend, in Vegas w

1070
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 6: NBA All Star Weekend.

1071
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: And we brought like the w.

1072
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 6: Brought a whole bunch of the legends back when I

1073
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 6: went on behalf of the Fever, you know, and you

1074
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: know there, you know she wanted the m v P

1075
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 6: that game Candidates was there, that was with Ruthie Bolton

1076
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: up at the top, Ruthie bon Holyfield well up at

1077
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 6: the top.

1078
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: And she's like, oh man, there's Kobe down there. She's like,

1079
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 3: you want to go down there with me to go

1080
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: stay hi. I'm like, no, I'll catch them next time.

1081
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1082
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: Because you just assume that they're gonna be a next time.

1083
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be it forever.

1084
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: It's gonna be it forever. And it's just like, man like,

1085
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 6: don't take don't take this for granted. And anytime you

1086
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 6: have an opportunity, make sure you take advantage of the

1087
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 6: opportunity that you have to let.

1088
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: People know that you love them, and yeah, to.

1089
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 6: Go out of your way sometimes because I was just like, man,

1090
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 6: I just came.

1091
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: From down there. I don't want to go all the

1092
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 3: way back.

1093
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: Traveling. Yeah.

1094
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: You sometimes you don't realize how much you like, we

1095
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: want the best of friends. But You don't really realize

1096
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: how much you care and love somebody until they they're

1097
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: actually gone and they're not here to run past sometimes,

1098
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: you know.

1099
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, So tell me about when you finally get to

1100
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 5: the point where you're going to retire and stuff like that,

1101
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 5: and then you transition into being a director of player development.

1102
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: That's what I did. I did that job real quick

1103
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: for a couple of.

1104
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 5: Years, you know what I'm saying, So I know a

1105
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 5: little bit about that world.

1106
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, but how was that?

1107
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 5: How was that, you know, first decision with retiring, coming

1108
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 5: to terms with that, then making the transition.

1109
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting because our definition of play development up

1110
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: probably totally different.

1111
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: Like you were on the.

1112
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: Court, right, No, well yes, saying though, but I was

1113
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: more off the court than on the court, and you

1114
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: probably think I was like the guy that was out

1115
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: there training guys.

1116
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: Not necessarily. I only did that here and there with

1117
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: a couple guys.

1118
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was more like the paperwork to make

1119
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: sure they get to the MVPA meets and make sure

1120
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: this is happening, and make sure they straight in their

1121
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 5: personal life and doing check in, going over, taking the

1122
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 5: dinner and stuff like that, making sure the team get

1123
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: together on the road, taking guys out there, that type

1124
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 5: of stuff.

1125
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: Seeing with the young guys. Need make sure they being

1126
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: you know, intended to.

1127
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, so my thing before I finished, and I sat

1128
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 6: down with our gem at the time and uh and

1129
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 6: refusing by president and he was like, okay, like what

1130
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 6: are you looking at?

1131
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, I really want to help guys focus.

1132
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 6: On what his life looked like beyond basketball and really

1133
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 6: being able to take advantage of the opportunity while we're playing, because.

1134
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: Once you're ya mean, y'all know, once you get done playing,

1135
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: you make those phone calls, people are like.

1136
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 4: Uh, well, yeah, let me call you back.

1137
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: We call you back, and they don't call that man back.

1138
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 6: They won't even answer the phone, like I don't even

1139
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 6: know who you are, Like the leaded your numbers from what.

1140
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: So I wanted to make sure. I'm like, that was

1141
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: a passion of mine that moment.

1142
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 6: And I mean I worked with the Fever the first year,

1143
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 6: then I went to the Pacer, came back to the Fever,

1144
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 6: went to the Julie, so I went to the Madden

1145
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 6: and then I came back so literally like two years

1146
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 6: right there doing the player development.

1147
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: And for real that's it's a great it is coming

1148
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 5: from being who you are as a player, is doing that.

1149
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: Every I'm telling you everything is a ground first thing.

1150
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 5: You know, you signed up, You're like, cool, they gonna

1151
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: pay you what you're gonna play.

1152
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: And then when you.

1153
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: Start getting paid, you start like damn, Like hold up, man,

1154
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm kind of around here more than I was as

1155
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: a player, and I ain't getting a fraction.

1156
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: Of what I was getting as a player.

1157
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 6: And you become a servant leader exactly like these guys.

1158
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: Now don't want to do what you telling me to do,

1159
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: and you're.

1160
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: Like, man, are you kidding me? That was the thing

1161
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 6: that killed me. Is kind of like, okay, this will

1162
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 6: be over. Let's just be clear. And the WNBA are

1163
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 6: average length of time average playing careers three and a

1164
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 6: half years. You got three and a half solid years. Yeah,

1165
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 6: you see, you are like the players that have.

1166
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: Been here for ten, twelve, fifteen years, But not.

1167
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 4: Everybody, for everybody. All you need to.

1168
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 6: Start doing what you need to do now to prepare

1169
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: yourself for life beyond that.

1170
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: That was something that was really important.

1171
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: That's the child.

1172
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people ask me what do I miss

1173
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: from the game, and I always telling them I missed it,

1174
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: and drilling like they're drilling from the crowd or a

1175
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: big game.

1176
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: What do you miss from the game since you've been retired.

1177
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: I missed the bus slide.

1178
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 6: I missed sitting in the locker room after practice joanan

1179
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 6: on somebody.

1180
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: Just yeah you got cost Oh.

1181
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: We have one the other day.

1182
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 6: In practice outright, I missed like I missed that. And

1183
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: even in my role now, like being the gym, I

1184
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 6: still get to.

1185
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: Feel a little bit of it.

1186
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, going to practice and being around, but like coming

1187
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 6: out when I finished, I had like a list of

1188
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 6: things that I didn't want to do, and I didn't

1189
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 6: want to I didn't want to work nine to five.

1190
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 6: I didn't want to have to go to practice. There's

1191
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 6: a lot of things I didn't want to do. And

1192
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 6: now like having the time away, it's like, gosh, Like

1193
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 6: I missed the bus slides.

1194
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: I missed being at the airport just waiting on the plane.

1195
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 6: We just sitting around talking, you know, having those like yeah,

1196
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 6: but you know that's what you got good from.

1197
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, But being in that position that you in, that's

1198
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 5: a testament. You know that you did everything the right

1199
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 5: way because all of us in here, know as ex

1200
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 5: players and stuff like that. Everybody don't get that opportunity

1201
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: from the team, from whatever organization to say, hey, come

1202
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: work for us, and like, you know, really be giving

1203
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 5: an opportunity like you've been to be able to go here,

1204
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 5: go there, grow.

1205
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: And continue to grow.

1206
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: And like you say, you feel like every day you

1207
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 5: in a position to grow. Like that's an unbelievable, great

1208
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 5: feeling and great situation because it's not really what it

1209
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: is for everybody that's going around and some people that

1210
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 5: get in this situation, they get boxed in and out

1211
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: in the position to grow. To see you be able

1212
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 5: to be fever, you know, then to the patients, then

1213
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: back to the field, to the G league, then you

1214
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: moving up, Like that's all. Big salute to the organization

1215
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 5: for really, you know what I'm saying, putting you in

1216
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 5: play and believing in you and giving you that opportunity.

1217
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: And then a bigger such salute to you for.

1218
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: Really you know, cashing in and making the most of

1219
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 5: it because you've given the ability for the organization to

1220
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: put that trust in the next player that come through

1221
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 5: and handle their business to right way. You empowered them

1222
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 5: to say, look at how cash did it she handled

1223
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 5: a business instead of somebody to get in there, and

1224
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: you know, sully it up and say they coming here

1225
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: being like and that may make it tougher for the

1226
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 5: next person coming through. So salute to you for doing

1227
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 5: it the right way.

1228
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1229
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 6: But I think too if you said it okay, I

1230
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 6: was making this as a player and now you're on

1231
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: the other side, right, But it's a growth. You got

1232
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 6: to grow go to that and the unfortunates is something

1233
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 6: I was talking about. The unfortunate part is we've all

1234
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 6: been playing basketball for so long and for the most part,

1235
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 6: you don't make the NBA or the WNBA unless you're

1236
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 6: one of the top players. So like you have been

1237
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 6: in a sense catered to to be able to help

1238
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 6: get you to that level. And so and then you

1239
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 6: go pro depending on how long you're playing. I played

1240
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 6: sixteen years. We all played for a long time. You

1241
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 6: don't have an opportunity to do internship and going to

1242
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 6: sort of like the people that came straight out of

1243
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 6: college and went in the.

1244
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: Internship, they're like, they're way further than we.

1245
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 6: Are by the time we finish our career and now

1246
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 6: we're just starting.

1247
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: So like it was really important.

1248
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 6: I think, you know, from that standpoint, starting the foundation

1249
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 6: early on as a player really helped me. And being

1250
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 6: able to know how to do a marketing plan and

1251
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 6: know how to speak to people and know how to

1252
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 6: get in fun and know how to ask people for money.

1253
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 6: You know, just knowing how to do a lot of

1254
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 6: different things right. And then you know, you keep going

1255
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 6: on that to be able to have skill sets. And

1256
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 6: that's what I want for our players. We started a

1257
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 6: program earlier this year called Athlete to Advocate for our

1258
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 6: players and hopefully it's.

1259
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 3: The first time it's ever been done.

1260
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 6: Teamed up with Anthem Anthem founder Anthem and then I

1261
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 6: used School of Philanthropy and we went through a five

1262
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 6: week course teaching players how to be advocate.

1263
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: And we all have a voice, we have a platform.

1264
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 6: Obviously you saw that last season and the w and

1265
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 6: the NBA and being able to fight for social like

1266
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 6: fight for justice. We are fighting. We all want to

1267
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 6: fight for something. So knowing how to fight and doing

1268
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 6: it the right way, knowing how to speak about it,

1269
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 6: knowing what you're passionate about, like that's so important. And

1270
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 6: I'm thankful, as I mean, I know I've said I'm

1271
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 6: blessed and thankful to be in an organization that has

1272
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 6: allowed me to grow and continue to allow our players

1273
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 6: to find their voices. I want to hire more players

1274
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 6: like that is my goal down the road. I don't

1275
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 6: want to get you know how some people hord position.

1276
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 6: I don't need a horder position. I want more players

1277
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 6: to be able to be in this position because I

1278
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 6: feel like we know the game.

1279
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: We know how to select talent.

1280
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 6: Now it's just a matter of like, hey, let's learn

1281
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 6: the business side so that we can get more players.

1282
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 3: In this league.

1283
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: So y'all just hear that. That's beautiful to hear this

1284
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 5: is she's not a hoarder. She is somebody who has

1285
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 5: got put in play that wants to put other people on.

1286
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 4: This is a beautiful thing, ladies and gentlemen.

1287
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the Catch Foundation. What

1288
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: made you start the Catch Foundation?

1289
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1290
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 6: Catch a start is like we started my sister and

1291
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 6: I in two thousand and four. But the first year

1292
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 6: that we got here, I did an appearance at one

1293
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 6: of the like the local club, and the guy puked.

1294
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 6: Director of Ted van Wiper. He was like, man, have

1295
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 6: you ever thought about having your own camp? Like you

1296
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 6: just were you're so good with kids. Well, he became

1297
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 6: our best praying really fast. We started our camp that year.

1298
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 6: This year will be a twentieth year for the Catcher

1299
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 6: Stars Holiday Camp. It's crazy, and then thought it was great.

1300
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 6: After that. The next year two thousand and one, two

1301
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 6: thousand and two, we added a clinic fitness clinic basketball camp.

1302
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: Next year we added a mentoring program Fitnanck Clinic Basketball Camp.

1303
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 6: And then after that it was like, okay, we can't

1304
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 6: keep ating stuff and not have like an umbrella to

1305
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 6: put it underneath. And we came up with Catcher Stars

1306
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 6: and I've been rolling, so we just gave out we're

1307
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 6: giving out one hundred thousand dollars in scholarship money this year.

1308
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 6: The awards show is actually coming up, so like we're

1309
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 6: obviously everything is virtual and my goal, my dream one

1310
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 6: day is to be able to provide full scholarship to college.

1311
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 6: So we started I think at one thousand dollars given

1312
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 6: out one like one thousand dollars scholarship.

1313
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: Now we're at twenty thousand dollars renewable and yeah.

1314
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: So that's what it's all about.

1315
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: That's impactful. What do you do to scratch your competitive

1316
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: is I have a business.

1317
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: I used to tell people all the time, like when

1318
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: you play on the court, it's like you can't go

1319
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: to jail. I can be mad, I can be mean,

1320
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: I can file somebody hard. I can be happy. I

1321
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: can't get in trouble on this court. I can get

1322
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Speaker 2: as a tech. So that competitive is to play in

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: each other. And now you're not playing no more because

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find me and Q went golfing the

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: other day and it didn't go too well, but I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna try it again.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we bowld.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to find something to keep that competitive is.

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00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: We're throwing paper in the trash can. We'd be like,

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: I bet I can do it better than you.

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: After the business give you that competitive it I just

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Speaker 2: fulfil it well.

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Speaker 6: I mean every day we're competing with other businesses. You know,

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 6: it's a t shop, so we don't have liquor, we

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00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 6: don't have any of that. I'm an avid tea drinker

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 6: and yeah.

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00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: I had to send you some tea.

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00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like, so how do you how do you compete

1340
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 8: with the bigger company, and you know, especially Indie, India

1341
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 8: is a smaller market, so we're being like, we're getting

1342
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 8: to the top point now where people know what tees

1343
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 8: me cafe is, especially when you open up the second location.

1344
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: So that gives me like I just wanted once again,

1345
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: wanted to be the best. I want our business to

1346
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 3: continue to grow.

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00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 6: I want people to know like I want us to

1348
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 6: be the Starbucks fatigue one day.

1349
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 4: Straight up, I know, I know what I want to know.

1350
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 5: Like you one of the players, it's kind of changing now,

1351
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 5: but most of your career you played overseas during the

1352
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 5: all season, right, How was that for you? After being

1353
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 5: like y'all would go straight over there. It was a

1354
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 5: quick turnaround, right? How was that type of grind going

1355
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 5: playing overseas and then doing a WNBA as well?

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01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 6: I told my agent, I was like, look, I can't

1357
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 6: go the way that I play. I wouldn't have been

1358
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 6: able to play for as long if I would have

1359
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 6: went immediately overseas. So I played four years in South Korea,

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 6: half a year in Russia, one year in Poland and

1361
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 6: then your Poland, two years in Istanbul, Turkey.

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: And then I finished in China.

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01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 6: So every experience what different? Somebody life better than others.

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01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 6: But you know what, when you love the game the

1365
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 6: way you love it. You don't mind the grind, and

1366
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 6: you know that it's short lived, but you know, you

1367
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 6: know you're not going to be playing ball.

1368
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: For the rest of your life.

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01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 6: And so you know, some of it is you make

1370
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 6: more money playing overseas than you did, especially at that time.

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Speaker 3: Than you did in the W.

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 6: But because you played in the W, it allowed you

1373
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 6: more opportunities oversea, and it really was just about taking

1374
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 6: advantage of opportunity.

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: Kind of hand in hand yep.

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01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 5: What was it like being inducted to the Hall of Fame?

1377
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 5: Look you in the Hall of Fame.

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01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 4: That's like all.

1379
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: The fame catch right there, all the cats.

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: You don't dream about that, Like you don't.

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 6: You can't yet, you can't even say, like, oh man,

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 6: I dreamed about being like I didn't dream about me

1383
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame. I dreamed about being a

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01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 6: best that I could be and not compared to anybody else.

1385
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: And so like even just envisioning it, it's crazy.

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 6: It's just like working out of my speech and all

1387
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 6: of that and all the people that I need to.

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01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: Think and you know, it's it's not just.

1389
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 6: Me, you know, like it's all the people that have

1390
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 6: helped me get to this point.

1391
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: My teammates, my coaching teacher.

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01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 6: You know, family, fans, others that have helped me get

1393
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 6: to this point.

1394
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: Everything rusts back all the way from the start you

1395
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: pick up there, every coach, everywhere.

1396
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: Trouble just all just came into form all over again.

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 5: Even know on being the best, how was it to be?

1398
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 5: You was the top twenty at twenty like you wanted

1399
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 5: to like look she smiling, that's like that go right

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01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 5: in line with saying being the best, like she wanted

1401
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 5: the twenty best ever ever? To me, I feel like

1402
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 5: that's a little bit more status than just the Hall

1403
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 5: of Fame.

1404
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I won't say that.

1405
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean prestiege, but I mean I'm just

1406
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 5: talking about this from like the level because it's more

1407
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 5: than twenty people in the Hall of Fame.

1408
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: Though.

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01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, saying you top twenty period.

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01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 6: Yeah about that that's crazy and it was crazy. Is

1411
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 6: that we're gonna keep getting older and that the younger

1412
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 6: players are going to keep coming in and so eventually

1413
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 6: you're gonna get pushed out.

1414
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they could take all the nineteenth, but I

1415
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: believe my spot in that look that happened.

1416
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: That's all good. It happened.

1417
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: But like I was there though, like I was there.

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 6: I'd say, I mean to be one of the best.

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01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 6: And the one thing I remember, and I don't remember

1420
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 6: what year this was, but one of the games that

1421
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 6: might have been top fifteen, yeah, top fifteen or top ten,

1422
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 6: and they were calling all the player and I'm like,

1423
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: so and so has one x amount of championship player.

1424
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 6: And I remember staying there and the like and to

1425
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 6: me catching, and I came down and I was.

1426
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: Like, need a chip.

1427
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: I was.

1428
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 6: I was like, man, all of them have all these

1429
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 6: championship and I can't even get one.

1430
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: I can't get one.

1431
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 6: And then when we won in twenty twelve, I was like, okay,

1432
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 6: the Lord.

1433
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: The resume looking real good. Now just addition all me

1434
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: right there too.

1435
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: We'll take it.

1436
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 4: All right.

1437
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 5: That's a wrap, man, It's been too real. We appreciate you,

1438
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: super salute to you. You know how we feel about

1439
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 5: you in your game. Thank you for coming on with

1440
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 5: a SMIs Tamika catching.

1441
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you guys for having me.

1442
01:03:59,080 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,480
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