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Speaker 2: college realignment. I thought of Vince Lombardi, the famous Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers coach, most notably when he said this, that's

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Speaker 2: college realignment right now. As the PAC twelve is reduced

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Speaker 2: to four schools that are left after five of them

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Speaker 2: bolted on a news dump Friday, This is unbelievable how

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Speaker 2: quickly it came together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, in California we talk a lot about

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Speaker 3: wildfires because I mean, there's a whole wildfire season now

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Speaker 3: and it's considered devastating, right, you know, it's the you know,

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Speaker 3: the fires burn and people are moved out of their houses,

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Speaker 3: and you know, some people lose their lives. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's awful. But the truth is it's only awful because

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Speaker 3: we live in these forests or we live near these forests,

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Speaker 3: like it's just the natural thing that happens. Don't get

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Speaker 3: me wrong. Some of these wildfires start because somebody rolls

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Speaker 3: down their window and flicks a cigarette into some brush,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, you have one hundred

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Speaker 3: acres of blaze. But if there was no cigarette, there

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Speaker 3: would be a lightning strike and it would happen anyways,

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Speaker 3: because it's the natural order of things, like things burned

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Speaker 3: down for regrowth to happen. And right now we're in

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Speaker 3: the wildfire stage of college football, Like it's all burning

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Speaker 3: to the ground, and there's gonna be people who you know,

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Speaker 3: or athletic departments, I should say, who are harmed by

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Speaker 3: all this, and it's gonna be ugly for a little while.

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Speaker 3: But on the other side of all this, there's regrowth

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Speaker 3: and there's rebirth, and sometimes it's more lush and beautiful

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Speaker 3: than it was prior to. But it's gonna be messy,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be dirty, and people are gonna be

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Speaker 3: coughing through the smoke, and it's gonna take a while,

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Speaker 3: and I have no idea how it's gonna shake out.

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Speaker 3: But assuming you know, over the next ten to fifteen years,

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Speaker 3: while we're in this phase, if it lasts that long,

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Speaker 3: which I think it might, that college football is still

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Speaker 3: as relevant. On the other side that it is now,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have something that may make more sense as

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Speaker 3: a result of all this confusion and craziness, because right

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Speaker 3: now college football makes close to zero sense. Like if

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Speaker 3: you really think about the structure, if somebody came in

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Speaker 3: and pitched college football to you the way it currently exists,

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Speaker 3: you would be like, you're an idiot, get the hell

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Speaker 3: out of my face. But if on the other side

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Speaker 3: of all of this, we see two mega conferences emerge

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Speaker 3: and there is a real playoff structure and there's a

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Speaker 3: real way to determine who's the champion of college football.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we get to an end that

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Speaker 3: justifies the means. And the problem is we're just in

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Speaker 3: We're just in the middle of it right now. For

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Speaker 3: the PAC twelve, I don't know if there's enough of

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Speaker 3: the pack to really call a conference anymore. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the Pac twelve died yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like if we were going to do

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Speaker 4: the tombstone, I think yesterday would be the date of death.

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Speaker 1: I love the forest fire analogy.

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Speaker 4: I agree, and I'm all about the spiritual nature of

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Speaker 4: things in the order, and life brings death, and death

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Speaker 4: brings life in the circle of all of it, and

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Speaker 4: it all makes sense to me weeks ago, and I've

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Speaker 4: pitched this a bunch of times. I've given this take

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Speaker 4: on this show a bunch of shows. I've always convinced.

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Speaker 4: I've always been convinced that one conference was enough, and

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Speaker 4: that we can add or subtract to that conference, like

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Speaker 4: relegation in European football, as we see fit and as

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Speaker 4: the rankings change and et cetera. But now that I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of seeing the way that it's terrorforming here, I

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Speaker 4: think two conferences make sense.

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Speaker 1: It works for the NFL, we have a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It's worked for sixty to fifty years now going on

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Speaker 4: sixty years, and I think it's going to continue to work.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we're gonna have a, you know, a

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Speaker 4: and I think it makes sense too conferences based on

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Speaker 4: see the big twelve now becoming its own little entity,

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Speaker 4: and we'll see how that shapes out. I think that's

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Speaker 4: the biggest step for me, because I think the Big

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Speaker 4: And the Big twelve is kind of that third conference

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Speaker 4: So it is kind of terrorforming and it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a while, but right now it does feel like we

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Speaker 4: of a step towards a positive direction, because yesterday I

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Speaker 2: You know, I love you guys. Let nothing that I

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Speaker 2: say deter from that fow boy over here, all right,

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Speaker 2: And I want to start off with my Christian values

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Speaker 2: in mind. But I could not disagree with you jack asses.

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Speaker 2: College football is not the NFL okay, like I get it,

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Speaker 2: where there are sixteen teams in each conference in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's not what we're doing with here in college football

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Speaker 2: at the highest level, We've got one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: three teams like, we're not moving toward just the SEC

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Speaker 2: and just the Big Ten. I know a lot of

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Speaker 2: people think that, but look at the Big twelve right now.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna sound ridiculous with all the movement we've

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Speaker 2: just seen. I'm not telling you the Big twelve is

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Speaker 2: set in stone, but what I am telling you is,

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Speaker 2: outside of the SEC and outside of the Big Ten,

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Speaker 2: there are still a lot of schools that could very

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Speaker 2: easily form that next big time conference where you have

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Speaker 2: three Power three conferences or what have you. I just

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Speaker 2: don't see a situation where there are two conferences and

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Speaker 2: if you are not in those two conferences, you're just

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Speaker 2: on the outside looking in. I just don't see that.

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Speaker 2: With the Playoff being expanded to twelve teams, maybe that

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Speaker 2: expands a little bit later down the road, but as

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Speaker 2: it stands right now, I just don't see how many

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Speaker 2: maybe sixty teams. Do you realize how that's over half

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Speaker 2: of the teams would be on the outside looking in.

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Speaker 2: That's not what we have in the NFL. It's not

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Speaker 2: like there were thirty there were I don't know sixty

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Speaker 2: NFL teams and they said, you know what, let's cut

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Speaker 2: this bad boy down to thirty two. That's not what happened.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever see that happening in college football.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean we're careening towards that now, don't

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Speaker 3: get me wrong. I mean it's it's possible that a

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Speaker 3: legitimize an attempt for them to stave off being absorbed

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Speaker 3: by a different conference, and maybe it turns into a

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Speaker 3: three conference thing. But I don't see it just being

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Speaker 3: like two conferences of fifty teams. I see it potentially

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Speaker 3: being two conferences that possess like fifty teams, maybe fifty plus,

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Speaker 3: where a lot of these teams that were originally Division

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Speaker 3: one football programs, basketball programs, they're going to be absorbed

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Speaker 3: by conferences or one of the two conferences, and they're

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Speaker 3: just gonna have subdivisions of those conferences, whether it's three

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Speaker 3: subdivisions where it's either based on geography, so that logistically

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Speaker 3: it makes sense for these teams to be in the

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Speaker 3: be more organized that way, and that's what I think

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Speaker 3: the networks probably have wanted and desired for a long time,

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Speaker 3: because then it makes more sense to people. It's easier

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Speaker 3: time to understand it. You could take on the European

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Speaker 3: soccer thought process, you could do relegation, or since we

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Speaker 3: have a exausting model in the NFL that works and

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Speaker 3: that makes sense to American sports fans. That's the reason

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Speaker 3: why I think it's gonna head towards that. Now they're

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Speaker 3: going to be sacrifices. Like I'm sure if you talk

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Speaker 3: But there's gonna be certain sports fans who if you

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Speaker 3: ask them what they think of conference realignment, they're gonna say, yeah, like,

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Speaker 3: college football makes zero sense to me. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 3: on the other side of this, it makes more sense

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Speaker 3: to me, and that may be the end result here

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's We're just gonna wake up

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Speaker 4: one day and we're gonna have an AFC in an

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not now.

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Speaker 4: I'm using maybe the ten, fifteen, twenty year you know, view,

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Speaker 1: I mean just last year. Imagine we go back to

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Speaker 4: When we start doing this show and we start saying, yeah, Arizona's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be in the Big twelve, like what Like

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't believe you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I would believe you, But I think

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Speaker 4: it's pretty it makes sense now if you just kind

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Speaker 4: of think about the direction of everything that's happened in

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Speaker 4: the last two days. In the last two days, that

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Speaker 4: making any sense to reality. So it just I think

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Speaker 4: I have some guesses on what they want it to

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Speaker 4: don't care about anyone else because, let's be honest, I

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Speaker 4: love Appalachian State, and I love the fact that UCF

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Speaker 4: and when it happens, we glorify it and we watch

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Speaker 4: it's Michigan and you know Texas and Oklahoma, and that

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Speaker 4: is college football. That is the brand of what the

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Speaker 4: future of college football is because those are the teams

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Speaker 4: and right now we are trying to build a product

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Speaker 4: around those teams. Unfortunately, the rich get richer and the

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Speaker 4: poor get poor. That's just the way the world works.

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Speaker 4: And sadly, those conferences, you know, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: I think three FBS teams, it's really only twenty to

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Speaker 4: give those teams the best chance to succeed while putting

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Speaker 4: money to spotlight those games. Unfortunately, Georgia Southern against Marshall

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why we're going away from the

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Speaker 2: Well, the crazy thing to me is how quickly everything

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Speaker 2: So fellas Alvin Kamara, Saints running backs suspended for three

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how much it's gonna have an

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Speaker 3: the top one hundred receivers by yards per catch last

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Speaker 3: last season, all of them are over ten yards per catch,

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Speaker 3: the top one hundred receivers in the NFL. Now, if

435
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Speaker 3: we expand the aperture to include quarterbacks, if you look

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Speaker 3: at the top fifty in terms of rushers in the

437
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Speaker 3: NFL last year, and we talked about yards per rush,

438
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Speaker 3: the best was justin fields at seven point one, and

439
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Speaker 3: the majority of the running backs, the ones that obviously

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Speaker 3: really can cook, are in the fives, and then it

441
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Speaker 3: drops to the four quickly, and before you're outside the

442
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Speaker 3: top fifty, we're getting into the threes. Now, when I

443
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Speaker 3: was preparing for a team that you know, on our schedule,

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Speaker 3: when you had a running back that could hurt you

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Speaker 3: on two downs, you were worried about that running back, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, Derrick Henry, Like you mentioned a Nick Chubb,

447
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Speaker 3: you know, and you would you would definitely, you would

448
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Speaker 3: definitely worry about those guys. But if they were on

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Speaker 3: a team where they also had two pass catchers who

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Speaker 3: were as explosive as the top one hundred receivers I

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Speaker 3: just mentioned, you worried about those guys more because they

452
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Speaker 3: can just hurt you more all at once. And those

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Speaker 3: those plays where a guy is catching for ten yards

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Speaker 3: at a clip, or twelve yards or fifteen, or an

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Speaker 3: explosive play for fifty down the sideline screaming over the

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Speaker 3: top because the safety got out of position. Those are

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Speaker 3: plays that are momentum changes. Those are plays that can

458
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Speaker 3: you know, obviously crack a game wide open, whether we're

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Speaker 3: talking about the pro game or the college game. And

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Speaker 3: so that's the reason why wide receivers and you know,

461
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Speaker 3: and quarterbacks and pass rushers and corners and and offensive

462
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Speaker 3: tackles are now being valued more even than a running

463
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Speaker 3: back is because those are people who are involved in

464
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Speaker 3: the part of the game that can either help you

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Speaker 3: the most or hurt you the most, all at once.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that running backs don't have value, or

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Speaker 3: that Alvin Kamara doesn't have value. He does, but just

468
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Speaker 3: comparatively not as much as some of the other positions

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Speaker 3: in the NFL these days, because they're more associated with

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Speaker 3: the passing game.

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: And I know that, you know, sometimes I sound like

473
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Speaker 4: a snake oil salesman with some of the game stuff

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Speaker 4: that I bring you, guys, but there's a reason that

475
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Speaker 4: it's become so prevalent in today's game, and it's because

476
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Speaker 4: they're much better at predicting this stuff than we are.

477
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Speaker 4: And I know we're very egotistical about how much we

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Speaker 4: know about football, but they have the best data, They

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Speaker 4: have the best models because they pay the league a

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Speaker 4: gajillion dollars, not just the NFL, but every league gajillions

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Speaker 4: of gajillions of dollars every year to get the best information.

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Speaker 4: Which is why I don't waste time trying to cook

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Speaker 4: up some Kakammi model because I know the sportsbooks models

484
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Speaker 4: are better. I'm trying to find situational edges week to

485
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Speaker 4: week and try to spot the line movement and some

486
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Speaker 4: of the things we talk about on the show.

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Speaker 1: Week to week.

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Speaker 4: But for the most part, the sportsbooks do this better

489
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Speaker 4: than we do. And that's just something you have to

490
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Speaker 4: just understand. All they have way more money than we do,

491
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Speaker 4: and they do it at a much better job, and

492
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Speaker 4: they have people that watch the game that have watched

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Speaker 4: the games for just as long as we have. But

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Speaker 4: the difference is they have the data and we don't.

495
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Speaker 4: And the data says running backs don't matter. Because when

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Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara says he's out for the first three games

497
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Speaker 4: and the game against the Titans in Week one goes

498
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Speaker 4: from three to three, it just tells me it doesn't matter. Now,

499
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Speaker 4: if Derek Carr were to be announced out for that game,

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Speaker 4: the Titans would be favored all of a sudden. And

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Speaker 4: that's the way it is. And I think, as much

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Speaker 4: as I want, my eyes and my heart and I

503
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Speaker 4: played football when I played, the running backs matter in

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Speaker 4: terms of the outcome of the game, the replacement level,

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Speaker 4: the expected points that the replacement running back adds to

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Speaker 4: the table compared to what the starter does.

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Speaker 1: It's not a huge drop off. Even the best guys.

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Speaker 4: It's not a massive drop off to where when you

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Speaker 4: go from Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love, the Packers go

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Speaker 4: from an eleven and a half twelve win total to

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Speaker 4: a seven and a half. If Aaron Jones got removed

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Speaker 4: from the team today, the win total probably wouldn't move

513
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Speaker 4: that much. And I think, and as much as I

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Speaker 4: want Alvin Kamara and all his buddies to matter in

515
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Speaker 4: the running back world, unfortunately we live in an NFL

516
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Speaker 4: society where the quarterback and the receivers, and the defensive

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Speaker 4: backs and the defensive ends matter more.

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Speaker 1: In my eyes, those.

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Speaker 4: Positions all matter more so when you take out a replacement,

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Speaker 4: or you take out a starter and you bring in

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Speaker 4: a replacement like Jamal Williams, and I look at Jamal

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Speaker 4: Williams numbers, I'm like, oh wow, he actually had a

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Speaker 4: pretty PRODUCTI year last year at a hundre yard game

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Speaker 4: week seventeen, Like, I don't see a huge drop off

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Speaker 4: there for three weeks, especially on the short time span.

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Speaker 4: So I don't change the way I view on the

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Speaker 4: Saints season at all. If anything, Camara will be healthier

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Speaker 4: for the stretcher on and I think that might be

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Speaker 4: more important.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: My mood is just deteriorating very quickly. There's one thing up.

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Speaker 1: I'm really good. I'm really good.

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Speaker 2: At Eric and you Bud, Yeah, sou can perk me

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Speaker 2: up over here. He goes by the name of Isaac

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Speaker 2: Low with proud and cheer me up over here.

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Speaker 9: I Low at your service. You're not the commissioner of

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Speaker 9: the PAC twelve, are you?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 11: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Then I can guarantee that I will cheer you up,

541
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Speaker 9: because indeed, Friday was doomsday for the PAC twelve. Is

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Speaker 9: first Oregon and Washington left for the Big ten, and

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Speaker 9: then Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah bolted for the Big twelve.

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Speaker 11: Fellas, get this.

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Speaker 9: I have obtained exclusive audio of PAC twelve executives discussing

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Speaker 9: yesterday's developments.

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Speaker 11: Listen, when can we get on the way?

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Speaker 1: Demis, that's five compartments.

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Speaker 4: She can stay up close for the first four compartments breach,

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Speaker 4: but not five, not to five.

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Speaker 1: There's no stoppings, but these shift cons.

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Speaker 3: I assure you she can and she will.

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Speaker 9: Movie My Heart Will Go On Anyway in the NBA

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Speaker 9: on Friday Lakers start Anthony Davis agreed to a three year,

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Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty six million dollar extension through twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty eight. In Major League Baseball, on Friday night, the

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Speaker 9: Los Angeles Dodgers scored five of the eighth inning to

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Speaker 9: beat the Padres ten to five. Dodgers on a four

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Speaker 9: game wedding streak. Seattle over the Angels in Anaheim nine

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Speaker 9: to seven. The Mariners have won five of six. They

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Speaker 9: were within two and a half games of the final

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Speaker 9: wild card spot in the American League, and overnight the

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Speaker 9: knockout stage began at the Women's World Cup. In the

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Speaker 9: round of sixteen, Spain over Switzerland five to one, Japan

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Speaker 9: a three to one victory over Norway. And that's notable

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Speaker 9: because Japan will play the winner of the round of

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Speaker 9: sixteen match between Team USA and Sweden, which will take

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Speaker 9: place early Sunday. State side Japan four to zero. In

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Speaker 9: the World Cup, they've outscored their opponents fourteen to one,

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Speaker 9: and now they'll either play Team USA or Sweden in

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Speaker 9: what would be the cores. Fellas all yours.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ilo, how man that feels better? Feels better?

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Speaker 2: I heard the Lovely Tones have won Isaac Lowankron, I'm

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Speaker 4: I think you're trouble if the topics are running backs

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Speaker 4: in the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at logic prevailing over here. Okay, so we've gotten

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Speaker 2: into this realm of if Nick Chubb with the Browns

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Speaker 2: was lost for a significant amount of time or the season.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten into this realm of who cares at least

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Speaker 2: it isn't Amari Cooper right, or Deshaun Watson or or

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Speaker 2: or Miles Garrett whatever you want to say. Yeah, fine,

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Speaker 2: not as valuable, but still valuable. Talk about these guys

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Speaker 2: as if there's no value at all. I'm sorry, the

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Speaker 2: season win total or the points spread, it might not

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Speaker 2: change a whole lot for the Titans. If Dereck Henry

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Speaker 2: goes down, guess what Hassan Haskins is not doing? What

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry does, so like, that's all I'm asking. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sitting here saying, you know what, a running back

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Speaker 2: should be paid more than quarterbacks. But we've gotten into

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Speaker 2: this realm of just like whizzing all over the running

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Speaker 2: back position as if it makes zero impact. It's freaking insane.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Austin Eckler with the Chargers over one hundred

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Speaker 2: catches last year. Joshua Kelly's not doing it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about this too. If you look at the Saints,

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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara suspended for three games, if you look at

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Speaker 2: Jamal Williams, what we're hearing from Jared is correct. Jamal

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Speaker 2: Williams had a very good season for the Lions in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, but he doesn't do it the same

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Speaker 2: way as Alvin Kamara does, and that can have an

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Speaker 2: impact on your offense. If you look at Kamara last season,

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Speaker 2: fifty seven catches, you know how many Jamal Williams had twelve?

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Speaker 2: He had twelve catches. So yeah, it's not gonna crumple

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Speaker 2: your season that Kamara isn't there for the first three games.

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Speaker 2: But with Jamal Williams, he doesn't do the same things

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Speaker 2: the same way Kamara does that can impact your offense

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Speaker 2: as well. So I don't want to make this sound

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Speaker 2: like it's earth shattering if any top running back goes down,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes it might not be. But all I'm saying is,

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Speaker 2: don't look at the points bread and say nothing changed,

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Speaker 2: no big deal, nothing to see here, or the season

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Speaker 2: win total and say, oh, the Titans are still at

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Speaker 2: seven and a half or whatever they are with no

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Speaker 2: Dereck Henry. That's just crazy to me that the takeaway

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Speaker 2: could be no impact, no value, nothing changes.

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Speaker 3: All right, So this topic has come up all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, right, you know this like undervaluing of the

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Speaker 3: running back, like this perceived undervaluing of the running back.

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Speaker 3: What has changed in the NFL during the past, say

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Speaker 3: two seasons, maybe three seasons, to the point where I

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Speaker 3: mean every NFL team has changed in this way. You know,

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Speaker 3: you say, well, they become well, they become more pass centric.

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Speaker 3: They've been passing the football more. Why It's because it's

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Speaker 3: more efficient. Well, we may have always knew that, but

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Speaker 3: now we have proof, and now we have proof in

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Speaker 3: analytics that can compare passing to running in a way

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Speaker 3: that is more digestible for owners and front office people.

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Speaker 3: Who may use to look at the running game as

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Speaker 3: equally important to the passing game. But analytics has taken

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Speaker 3: over football. A lot of people talk about it in baseball.

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Speaker 3: It's ruining the sport. It's ruined the sport. You might

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Speaker 3: be one of those guys, Brian, I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: like in the NFL, I promise you that's what's happening

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Speaker 3: here is because when you look at efficiencies, it is

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Speaker 3: more efficient to pass the football and to run the football.

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Speaker 3: And then also if you look at durability and replaceability

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Speaker 3: of running backs historically compared to receivers, that factors into

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Speaker 3: now when you're talking about a less durable position with

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Speaker 3: a higher replacement rate. Man, you start analytically to get

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Speaker 3: a little bit more tight fisted when it comes to

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Speaker 3: paying these guys. And that is the only reason why

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Speaker 3: this is happening. Because these NFL owners are about making

650
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Speaker 3: money or in the case of Ersae, saving whales, and

651
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: that is the goal, right It's to pay the players

652
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Speaker 3: who are going to make you the most money. And

653
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Speaker 3: in today's game, because of the analytics, they believe that's

654
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: wide receivers, that's quarterbacks, and then obviously the people who

655
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Speaker 3: stop the pass like pass rushers in corners. That's the

656
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Speaker 3: only thing that's happening. I can't wait for the season.

657
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: I am going to be such a jerk. You're gonna

658
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Speaker 3: have to mute me on the text, right because anytime

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Speaker 3: any running back does anything of great consequence.

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Speaker 1: But that's not what I'm like saying we should go

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Speaker 1: out argument.

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Speaker 4: I have a couple of other points, especially with Christian

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Speaker 4: mccan The Panthers won more games without Christian McCaffrey last

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Speaker 4: year than with him.

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Speaker 1: That's the final time.

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Speaker 2: Not the Niners do because their offense took off with

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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is there's other ways to win

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Speaker 4: in the NFL than just handing it off to Derek

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Speaker 4: Henry forty times. Like maybe if Derrick Henry goes out,

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Speaker 4: the Titans do something else that maybe is more productive.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's just hard to just take a

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Speaker 4: guy off the field and say, oh that's it, production's over.

675
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Speaker 4: There's other ways to generate production in the NFL, And

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Speaker 4: I think what the numbers are saying is it's more

677
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Speaker 4: efficient when you do it without the running back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got rich oorn Berger running back hater We've

679
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: got Jared Smith running Back Hater. Those are their new titles.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian No Fighting for all Things and the good

681
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: name of running backs that make solid production and contributions

682
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Speaker 2: to winning. It's a working title. We got this coming

683
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: up next. A musical artist will have a big impact

684
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: on the college football season, and I'm guessing our guy

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Speaker 2: Iowa Sam will not be happy about it. Whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: That is on the way.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it is Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. We're

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Speaker 2: coming to you live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Now,

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Speaker 2: I've got some bad news for our guy, Iowa Sam,

691
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: our technical producer extraordinary. He's not gonna be happy about this.

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Speaker 2: He went on an off air anti post Malone rant

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Speaker 2: about a year ago, and he's the first guy I

694
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Speaker 2: thought of. So this is going to be the new

695
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Speaker 2: theme song for ESPN when college football rolls around. It

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Speaker 2: is a post Malone song, singer rapper post Malone with

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Speaker 2: something real. Give this a shot. Now, now close your

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Speaker 2: eyes and think about this. You're watching a college football

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Speaker 2: game and they're throwing it to commercial and you're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear this music heading in. So it's like Alabama up

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Speaker 2: by ten in the second quarter, and then you hear

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Speaker 2: this in the background. Do you like it or not?

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Speaker 2: Check it out. I think it's a hit. I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be fine and fit in very well with

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Speaker 2: college football. It's upbeat, a little energy right there.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Thumbs up. Yeah, I mean it's got a very gospel vibe.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's what I thought too. I thought I

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Speaker 1: was in church and I don't even go to church.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is something though, very dramatic about football. It's

711
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: like I remember I I there were classical scores. There

712
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: was like Hans Zimmer tracks on my on my pregame

713
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Speaker 3: warm up. You know, I mean like it's it's a

714
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: weird game because it does feel like the stakes are

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Speaker 3: a little bit higher. So you need some drum now,

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Speaker 3: like when when we we don't have like pads clashing

717
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Speaker 3: and great tackles being made. You know, behind that music

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Speaker 3: it sounds a little like a little over the top, frankly,

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Speaker 3: but you sit me down on a Saturday with a

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Speaker 3: plateful of chicken wings now at oh boy, yeah, now

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Speaker 3: we're talking.

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Speaker 1: I'm on board. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I trust I trust the entertainment people that work for

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Speaker 4: all these companies to put something, a product in front

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Speaker 4: of me.

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Speaker 2: We got a winner. We got a win right there.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, a college coach talks hypocrisy. Oh, let's

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Speaker 2: talk some hypocrisy over here amid realignment. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: Colorado head coach Dion Sanders, he had an interesting take

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Speaker 2: on all this realignment within college sports. We saw yesterday

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Speaker 2: five teams from the back twelve say audios, audios to

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Speaker 2: the back twelve. Actually we saw five teams this week,

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Speaker 2: four teams yesterday. If you're scoring at home, so beginning

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Speaker 2: next season, Oregon in Washington, they'll be in the Big ten, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: Arizona State, and Utah they will join the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: And not to make you thoroughly confused, just if you're

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Speaker 2: scoring at home, those are five teams that all happened yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You add Colorado that moved to the Big twelve as

743
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Speaker 2: well that was announced recently, so that all happened. Six

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Speaker 2: of the eight teams that are leaving the Back twelve

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Speaker 2: beginning next year. The six teams that happened this week.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, so let's simplify it. Dion Sanders, he had

747
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: a thought on this Colorado head coach. Interesting what he

748
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Speaker 2: points out in terms of chasing the money. Check this out, man,

749
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Speaker 2: I don't care now about the different teams moving.

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Speaker 12: We're trying to win, man, Okay, what we play, Okay,

751
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Speaker 12: I don't I don't care what conference, who we're playing against.

752
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Speaker 12: We're trying to win. All this is about money. You

753
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 12: know that. It's about a bag. Everybody's chasing a bag.

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Speaker 12: Then you get mad at the players when they chase it.

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Speaker 12: How's that? How did how did the grown ups get

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Speaker 12: mad at the players when they chasing it when the

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Speaker 12: college is chasing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I just know you know it's true.

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Speaker 2: A couple of couple more teams moving today, rumored.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the same teams a talking about us? Right?

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Speaker 3: Oh oh lord, that was good.

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Speaker 2: He makes a legitimate point. I hate how much sense

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Speaker 2: he just made his facts.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, this is what I've been trumpeting this entire

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Speaker 3: time is this is a product that is stilted on

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Speaker 3: the backs of free labor. Now you can you can

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Speaker 3: tell me all about the college tuition, pay for the

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Speaker 3: college tuition pay for all you want. I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: comparatively comparatively when we're talking about over the course of

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Speaker 3: a normal college football or basketball player's career should he play,

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Speaker 3: you know, a four year college career. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: talking about anywhere between seventy and a one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty to two hundred and fifty thousands over the course

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Speaker 3: of four years, whereas the university that that player attends

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Speaker 3: during that same time will make hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's just that there's there is a wild, wild inefficiency there.

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Speaker 3: There's a wild inequality there of who's doing the work

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Speaker 3: and who's being rewarded for the work. Deon Sanders is

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Speaker 3: just shining a light on it, and he's saying, Hey,

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Speaker 3: why are we lying to everybody? This is about money.

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Speaker 3: It's always been about money. Why are we pretending that

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Speaker 3: this is a nobler cause that we're really worried about

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Speaker 3: the education of these quote unquote student in athletes. If

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Speaker 3: they really cared about that. You wouldn't hear the stories

786
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Speaker 3: about guys who play in the NFL and can't read like,

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Speaker 3: that's not what's happening at the college football level. What's

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Speaker 3: happening at the college football level is there's a ton

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Speaker 3: of people making a ton of money. And the reason

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Speaker 3: why is because it's a great product. And part of

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Speaker 3: the reason why the profits have been so high is

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Speaker 3: because you haven't had to pay a certain section of

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Speaker 3: the workforce for a very long time what they're worth.

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Speaker 3: And now that story is changing, and everybody's mad. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: clutching their pearls, like how dare these players ask for more?

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Speaker 3: Or now? How dare these teams leave these conferences. It's like,

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Speaker 3: of course they are, because it's been about money from

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Speaker 3: the jump. It's still about money. It's just everybody's getting

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Speaker 3: more comfortable talking about the money now. And there's still

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Speaker 3: a couple of people who are stuck in the yesteryear

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Speaker 3: mode where they're like, no, no, no, that's not how

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Speaker 3: business is done. No, it is. That's how business is

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Speaker 3: done everywhere else except for college football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're kind of worth what someone's willing to pay,

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Speaker 4: right and now, we're finding out how much people are

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Speaker 4: willing to pay, and some people are pretty surprised at

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Speaker 4: some of the numbers that some of these guys are getting.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's that initial shock value of from

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Speaker 4: zero to now millions, and eventually I think water will

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Speaker 4: find its level with the nil stuff. But Dion makes

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Speaker 4: just a ton of sense. I mean it, it actually is.

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Speaker 4: It's it's wild that someone who can be a little

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Speaker 4: bit more on the boisterous side can make such a

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Speaker 4: valid and lucid point about the same types of people

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Speaker 4: that are upset that Dion's doing something or that Colorado's

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Speaker 4: doing something, and then the next day that hypocrisy kind

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Speaker 4: of comes to a head.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it truly is remarkable college football, and really

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Speaker 1: it's the A.

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Speaker 4: I think the NSA kind of started it, and now

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Speaker 4: we've we've you know, the Muffin is branched out into

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Speaker 4: the Muffin top stage and now we are just in

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Speaker 4: full blown flavor explosion mode with all of these players,

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Speaker 4: and the conference is and everything is up for grabs,

825
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Speaker 4: like all, if you're an old school and trust me,

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 1: I used to be one of those people.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm a little more practical now in this

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Speaker 4: you know, new version of myself that I do a

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Speaker 4: lot of this gambling stuff because I see the world

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Speaker 4: through their lens, and not necessarily the lens that I

832
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Speaker 4: grew up with. But the college football that I grew

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Speaker 4: up watching is gone.

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Speaker 1: It's over.

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Speaker 4: It's done, and for us to eulogize it, well, that's fine.

836
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Speaker 4: But for us to get upset that it's gone, well

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Speaker 4: that doesn't do anyone any good. Let's try to make

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Speaker 4: the best product that we currently have. It is a

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Speaker 4: very strange and a very volatile product that is changing

840
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Speaker 4: every week, every month, every season, and we just have

841
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Speaker 4: to kind of evolve with it because unfortunately, it ain't

842
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Speaker 4: going back to the good old days in the same eies,

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Speaker 4: in the eighties and even the nineties, when these guys

844
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Speaker 4: were all paid the same, which was nothing, and the

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Speaker 4: conferences and the NCAA made all the money, and.

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Speaker 1: It just it's not that world anymore.

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Speaker 2: I just love that the reporter was like, yeah, that

848
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Speaker 2: makes sense to like, I know, I know, it makes

849
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Speaker 2: s makes perfect sense over here. I love that part.

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Speaker 2: And also it made me think of I had this

851
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Speaker 2: job a long time ago moving furniture, which is not

852
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Speaker 2: an easy job. They actually specialized in moving pianos.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, that is like the yeah, the running

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Speaker 4: backs of moving right there.

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Speaker 2: That's the grontwork right there. And I just I bring

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00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: that up because I thought of a guy I don't

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Speaker 2: remember his name, but he wore this hat and the

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Speaker 2: hat said money talks bs walks and held.

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Speaker 1: It out most pianos.

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Speaker 2: And of course it's like one of those mesh shep

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Speaker 2: hads that I'm like, that's an interesting hat to go with.

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Speaker 2: But it just makes me think of the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 2: Think about this, it's the Conference of Champions. Yeah, come on,

864
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about what one hundred and eight years. As

865
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: far as that run, a legendary conference, it crumbled in

866
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: a week because of money, like status, like history, none

867
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: of that matters. If, like Dion says, you're chasing the back,

868
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: You're chasing a payday. And that's what USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Arizona,

869
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: Arizona State, Utah. That's what they've all done is chase

870
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: the cash. The old ACDC song money Talks that that's

871
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: all college sports is turned into right here.

872
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I look, at the end of the day,

873
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: what is most important to all of us. It's obviously

874
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 3: our health because without that you got nothing else. And

875
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: then your family. But how do you provide for your family? Well,

876
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: in this world, in this society, you provide for them

877
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 3: with money. I mean it's we're not in a hunter

878
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: gatherer system where you leave your k your cave, you

879
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: club something over the head, you drag it back into

880
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: you know, your domicile, and you cook it over an

881
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: open fire. Like you have to play the game. The

882
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 3: game is money and make a lot of it if

883
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: you can, because then you can live very happily and

884
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: hopefully happily. But I very least have financial security for

885
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: your kids to grow up maybe better than you did,

886
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: maybe equally to how you did that. But that, at

887
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: very least is the bar right that we're all trying

888
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: to measure up to. Is I want my kids to

889
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: have at least as good of a life as I

890
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: did growing up, if not better. Well, if that is

891
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: the existence that we are going to focus, you know,

892
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: or the lens that we look through when we think

893
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: about this. At the end of the day, everybody is

894
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: just trying to gather as many acorns under the oak

895
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: tree as they can. So how are we going to

896
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: sit here and judge anybody, any entity that is trying

897
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 3: to make money for trying to make money, Like that's

898
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: what this is. It's like walking into Walmart and being like,

899
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: I can't believe you guys built a better thing. How

900
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 3: could you? It's like, I understand it. It's putting out

901
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 3: smaller businesses. It's making life harder for people who have

902
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: worked their whole life saving up to open up you know,

903
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: the mom and pop shop down the street. But in

904
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: this society, people people really value ease and people really

905
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 3: value money, right, Like so to the point where you'll

906
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: walk into the bigger box store and you'll walk away

907
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: with something because it's cheaper than the place down the

908
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: road from you. You'll drive the extra mile so you

909
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: could save five bucks. Like that's that's the point. Like

910
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: this is this is just Colorado and Arizona State and

911
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: Arizona and Oregon in Washington, USC and UCLA going Okay, yes,

912
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: there is value in what we've built over here for

913
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and six years, but guess what, the big

914
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: box store opened down the street. And as much as

915
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: we hate ourselves for saying, hey, this is going to

916
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: affect something that we helped foster and grow and build

917
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: over a century. We got to go to the next

918
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: big thing because we don't want to get left behind.

919
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 3: That's what they did. How could you blame them? I

920
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: don't because, guess what, as much as I love the

921
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: surf shop down the block from my house, I order

922
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: from Amazon some of the things that they sell there

923
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: because it's more convenient and it's cheaper. It's just what

924
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: we do. It's what we do. So why is anybody

925
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: blaming Colorado for leaving for the Big twelve? They left

926
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: the sinking ship.

927
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree. And I've seen a lot of

928
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: takes on social media, a lot of my friends, some

929
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: of them out west, you know, big PAC twelve fans

930
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 4: and PAC twelve after dark and all of the little

931
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: nuances of the conference that will go away because of this,

932
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 4: and they're sad, you know, Oh no, this is bad

933
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 4: for college football and it's sad, and it's a life

934
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: is said. Life is hard, life is not fair. That's

935
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 4: and I hate to boil it down to that, but

936
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: that's just life. Like things happen in life that are unfortunate,

937
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: and one of the things that happens every day is

938
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: that people care more about their bottom line than they

939
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: do a lot of their emotions most days, and people

940
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: will do things to just secure their future. It's evolution.

941
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: It's human evolution. It's how we are programmed. It's in

942
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: our DNA. When we were hunters and gatherers, instead of

943
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: just sitting in the cave and waiting to get eaten

944
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: by some wooly mammoth, we went out and tried to

945
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: fight and survive. And now it's just hundreds of thousands

946
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: of years later, we're doing it on a much different

947
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: scale when it comes to changing college football conferences. So

948
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: it just it is who we are as a human

949
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: race and is always going to be what we are

950
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: to try to evolve and strive for more.

951
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: And this is just the natural evolution of college football.

952
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: And people that are afraid of change are just gonna

953
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: have to deal with it because that's life and that

954
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how. There's a lot of people that

955
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: are upset about this back twelve thing, and I get it,

956
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: but I don't cry or weep for them, because it's

957
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: just the natural selection of the way things work.

958
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: I was just laughing because that initially sounded like a

959
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: me take, you know, where it's like, I know people

960
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: are sad. Guess what life is?

961
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: Sad?

962
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: With it? Like, yeah it is.

963
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: Though it's like, oh no, we're not gonna get packed

964
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 4: well after dark and Arizona's not gonna play Oregon anymore

965
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: at midnight on the East coast.

966
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: Deal with it?

967
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, get over it, you know, I mean, like, and

968
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: trust me, there is something. I sit here and I

969
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: think about how the world has changed. I reminisce and

970
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: I have those moments of nostalgia sure, and I think okay,

971
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: and I think about you know, TGIF on on Friday nights,

972
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: sitting down around the television with my family watching step

973
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: by Step in Full House and family Matters, and thinking

974
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: to myself like like this is good, this is nice

975
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: popping popcorn. But you know what, Now, anytime I want,

976
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: at the drop of a hat, I can lay down

977
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: in bed, bring the kids on board. I don't have

978
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: to wait till Friday. Yeah, And I can queue up

979
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: Netflix and we can sit down and watch family program

980
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 3: together whenever we want. It's up to us. So if

981
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: Friday is in a convenient night, well maybe it's Thursday tonight,

982
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, yes, there is something

983
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: sweet and sorrowful when I look back and reminisce on

984
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 3: all that and think how differently my family did it

985
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: growing up. But guess what, my kids know no different

986
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: and we're still sharing the same type of quality time.

987
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: Whatever it may be. You just move into these next

988
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: iterations with whatever level of discomfort or comfort that. But

989
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: it's not slowing down. It's like now it's Netflix, and

990
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: it's Hulu, and it's and it's Amazon Prime TV and

991
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 3: it's you know, Max and whatever other streaming surfaces. It's

992
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 3: in fifty years, it'll change again. I have no idea

993
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: what it will be, but it'll be different. And maybe

994
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,839
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995
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 3: I'll be like, it was better the way it used

996
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: to be when I could binge the shrage.

997
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,480
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998
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,040
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1023
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Speaker 2: dot Com. So all this talk about realignment, let's take

1032
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Speaker 2: a break here because the NFL is not re aligning.

1033
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: The NFL is sticking with their eight divisions of four

1034
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: teams and you know who's where and on with the season.

1035
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: We can focus on football here. And there was one

1036
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: interesting development on BETMGM the most bet win total in

1037
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: terms of number of bets. They're the most bets placed

1038
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: on the over seven and a half with the New

1039
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: England Patriots huh racing to the betting window to go

1040
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: with Mac Jones and company here. Now, a couple of

1041
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: things you got to keep in mind. New England was

1042
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: eight to nine last season, and that was with the

1043
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: two headed monster of Matt Patricia and Joe Judge calling

1044
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: the offense with defensive backgrounds or special teams in Joe

1045
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: Judge's case. And now they have Bill O'Brien and say

1046
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: what you want about him as a head coach, but

1047
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: he is a significant upgrade in terms of play calling

1048
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: and running the offense. So there's that. They got to

1049
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: eight wins last season. They just got to get to

1050
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 2: eight wins this season. If you're betting the over seven

1051
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: and a half, it's quite possible. I know it's a

1052
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: tough division. I know it's a tough schedule. I know

1053
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: it's a tough conference. But eight wins from the Patriots,

1054
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: but that's not outlandish at all.

1055
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, listen, there's two things occurring at once here. One,

1056
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: if you look at their schedule, you can count up

1057
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: eight wins, Like I just pulled up their schedule and

1058
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna walk through it. I don't want to

1059
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: bore anybody, but there's eight wins in there. And then

1060
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: the other part of it is this is an enormous

1061
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: nationwide fan base. Now, they have been a dynasty for

1062
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: twenty years. They're fading now, but Bill Belichick is still

1063
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: there and so there's still a lot of Patriots fans

1064
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: living all around this country with access in many places

1065
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: to these gambling apps. It shocks me very little when

1066
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: you see, like, you know, some of these teams like

1067
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: the Patriots or the Cowboys generating interest because you know,

1068
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: even if we're talking about betting, because yeah, to a

1069
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: certain extent, everybody wants to make money, but also everybody

1070
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 3: wants to make money off the teams they root for.

1071
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: So this this makes sense because I see value there,

1072
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: and it's an enormous fan base.

1073
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with the fan base part, and that's why.

1074
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: And also another thing too, BETMGM being live in certain

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Speaker 4: states means that they're going to get more handle. For example,

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Speaker 4: one of betmgm's biggest strongholds is in Michigan. So every

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Speaker 4: year some of us are surprised, some of us are

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Speaker 4: not that the Detroit Lions are the most bet team

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Speaker 4: for BETMGM in terms of the win total.

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Speaker 1: And again on paper, you're like, whoa, well, why is that?

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Speaker 4: Well, because most of their customers, they have a massive,

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Speaker 4: massive concentration of Michigan customers, and so as Rich alluded to,

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Speaker 4: people like to bet on the teams that they're going

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Speaker 4: to be watching every week. There's a lot of Lions

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Speaker 4: fans that want to bet on the Lions, and an

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Speaker 4: easy way to bet on them is just to bet

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Speaker 4: their win total. I think it's hard to take last

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Speaker 4: year's Patriots roster and say, oh, they won eight last year,

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Speaker 4: they can win eight this year. They beat the Jets

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Speaker 4: twice and the Dolphins without Tua in Week seventeen, and

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Speaker 4: those are divisional games that are usually back and forth.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to go three and

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Speaker 4: three in the division this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know how that goes.

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Speaker 2: You might not have the same scenario, but the injuries

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Speaker 2: just shift from one to the next. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: and I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know what the scenarios will be for the page, Like

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the big talking point is going

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Speaker 4: to be on the Patriots at the end of this season.

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Speaker 4: I think the Patriots to me, and I did it.

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Speaker 4: I just did it as good time because I just

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Speaker 4: said a whole preview on the afcast. I think the

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Speaker 4: Patriots to me are the most have the most variance

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Speaker 4: of any team in this division. So I think the

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Speaker 4: Bill's floor is pretty set. The Bill's floor is probably

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Speaker 4: nine or ten wins. Like I just I don't see

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Speaker 4: the Bills being on a below five hundred team this year.

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Speaker 4: I think the worst possible scenario, obviously barring a Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen freak injury, is a nine or ten win season

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Speaker 4: for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: That's like the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 4: I think with Miami there's more variants because of two

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Speaker 4: as injury, but let's live in a vacuum and say

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Speaker 4: Twa stays healthy the whole year. I think Miami's floor

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Speaker 4: is probably nine or ten wins. I think the Jets,

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Speaker 4: if Aaron Rodgers plays maybe even slightly to what we

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Speaker 4: expect Aaron Rodgers to play towards, I think the Jets

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Speaker 4: floor is probably nine or ten wins. Like if those

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Speaker 4: three quarterbacks all stay healthy, Allen and Tua and Rogers,

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Speaker 4: I just don't see any of those three teams having

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Speaker 4: like awful seasons like five six wins, like you know,

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Speaker 4: sell the farm. Whereas the Patriots new offensive coordinator, who

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Speaker 4: I think is gonna provide some upside, but I think

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Speaker 4: Mac Jones is like the biggest question mark of the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Like if again taking injury out of it, Rogers and

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Speaker 4: Tua and Josh Allen I think are more known commodities,

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Speaker 4: Mac Jones with a new offensive coordinator, I could see

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Speaker 4: there being a lot of upside there. I could see

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Speaker 4: Mac Jones the light bulb going off, and Bill O'Brien,

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Speaker 4: you know, conducts some kind of scheme that makes him

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Speaker 4: very comfortable. And the Patriots have a ten or eleven

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Speaker 4: win season because, let's be honest, the culture, the defense,

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Speaker 4: all the intangibles are there.

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Speaker 1: With New England.

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Speaker 4: The question mark on the Patriots, which is not a

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Speaker 4: question mark for the other three teams in the division.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what I'm getting from the offense

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Speaker 4: in that quarterback because it is a massive, massive I

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Speaker 4: guess mystery box.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I know that passing is a

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Speaker 2: huge deal in today's NFL, obviously, I know that. But

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Speaker 2: defense also is, and the Patriots play really good defense,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna be in a lot of games, even

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Speaker 2: if it isn't sexy. If it's twenty to seventeen, and

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Speaker 2: you win a couple of those ballgames, like all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, your stacking wins and you're sneakily getting close

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Speaker 2: to your season win total over you know, And that's

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Speaker 2: the funny thing is, you know, we're always about offense, offense, offense,

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Speaker 2: and we still say, hey, if you play good defense comparatively,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna help a lot. But if you run the ball,

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Speaker 2: who cares about running the ball. It's a passing league.

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Speaker 2: What does that matter? But I want to get to

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Speaker 2: the season win total that you're most bullish on around

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Speaker 2: the corner. You can take any of the thirty two

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Speaker 2: teams and you're bullish on the over, you're bullish on

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Speaker 2: the under. We'll have a selection for you each of us. First, though,

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Speaker 2: Isaac loewenkron our Man with the latest, I lo what

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Speaker 2: is going on?

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Speaker 9: Hey guys, we actually have a little bit of fresh

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Speaker 9: NFL news to tell you about this morning, because the

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Speaker 9: Indianapolis Colts have signed free agent running back Kenyan Drake. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 9: on Friday, in college athletics, the Pac twelve went from

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Speaker 9: nine teams down to four. First of all, Oregon and

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Speaker 9: Washington high tailed for the Big Ten. Arizona, Arizona State,

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Speaker 9: and Utah then made it out for the Big twelve.

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Speaker 9: So presently, the only teams remaining as of twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: four cal Stanford, Oregon State, and Washington State. In the NBA,

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Speaker 9: Los Angeles Lakers star Anthony Davis agreed to a three year,

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Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty six million dollar extension through twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty eight. Baseball on Friday night at the Los Angeles,

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Speaker 9: Dodgers scored five of the eighth inning to beat the

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Speaker 9: Padres ten the five to four wins and row for

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Speaker 9: the Dodgers. Mariners beat the Angels in Anaheim nine to seven.

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Speaker 9: Seattle's won five of six and is now within two

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Speaker 9: and a half of the final wildcard spot in the

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Speaker 9: American League. And at the Women's World Cup, the knockout

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Speaker 9: stage began overnights. Spain over Switzerland five to one. Japan

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Speaker 9: defeated Norway three to one. Japan will face the winner

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Speaker 9: of the USA Sweden match in the quarterfinals. Team USA

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Speaker 9: and Sweden will face one another early on Sunday morning in.

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Speaker 11: The United States.

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Speaker 9: Japan waiting in the wings there four and ozer in

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Speaker 9: the World Cup, and they've outscored their opponents now fourteen

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Speaker 9: to one.

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Speaker 11: Fellas back to you, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, I Lowe, great stuff as always, and you're a

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Speaker 2: not gonna give you the season win total for every

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Speaker 2: thirty two of the NFL teams, right that would just

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Speaker 2: sound like, yeah, we could, but that it would just

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Speaker 2: be obnoxious, bad radio. But we all have the list

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Speaker 2: in front of us. Compliments bet MGM. We'll start with you, Jared,

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Speaker 2: mister anti running back, Which team win total are you

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Speaker 2: most bullish on? Whether you're taking the over or the under?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 4: So there's two I had trouble deciding. To be perfectly

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Speaker 4: honest with you, I'll briefly go over the two. So

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Speaker 4: it's ironic that one of them has a great running

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Speaker 4: back room and the other one has a running back

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Speaker 4: room that we talked about at some point today. I

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Speaker 4: like the Packers over seven and a half wins. These

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Speaker 4: are both relatively lower win totals. I like betting lower

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Speaker 4: teams over instead of, you know, the best teams to

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Speaker 4: go over, because I just don't think there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of wigger room there. I like the Packers to go

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Speaker 4: over seven and a half. I think we talked a

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Speaker 4: lot this summer about Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets,

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Speaker 4: maybe overvaluing the Jets. I think if that is true,

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Speaker 4: then the inverse has to be true. Aaron Rodgers leaving

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Speaker 4: green Bay has to open up some value. If we're

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Speaker 4: overvaluing Aaron Rodgers and we move green Bay's number way

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Speaker 4: down and we move the Jets number way up, and

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Speaker 4: we think that number is wrong, well then green Bay

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Speaker 4: has to be undervalued if Aaron Rodgers is in fact

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Speaker 4: that type of quarterback. So I think I'll go over

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Speaker 4: on the Packers. I don't love Jordan Love, but I

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Speaker 4: think it's seven and a half. It's a very fair number.

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Speaker 4: And the rest of that roster is absolutely stacked, especially

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Speaker 4: the offensive line. All five starters back. You hope back

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Speaker 4: To already has a healthier season. The defense star power.

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Speaker 4: I hope uh Rashaun Garry's back from his ACL But

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Speaker 4: Kenny Clark and Press the Smith up front or elite.

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Speaker 4: Alexander and Douglas in the secondary are elite, and they

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Speaker 4: drafted Luke van Nest So I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: add to the pass rush I like the schedule. Their

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Speaker 4: first four games are against teams outside there shoot shoots

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Speaker 4: to their first five games all against teams outside the

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Speaker 4: top eight in Super Bowl odds, so I'm not facing

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Speaker 4: any tough teams out of the gate for Jordan Love

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Speaker 4: to get his feet wet, and then they have a

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Speaker 4: week six by for him to kind of reassess and

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Speaker 4: then move forward.

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Speaker 1: So I think all of the.

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Speaker 4: Soft runway and maybe undervalued a little bit would be

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Speaker 4: the Packers, and I think the Giants two are gonna

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Speaker 4: have another really solid season. I love Brian Dable and

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Speaker 4: against seven and a half, you're asking them to win

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Speaker 4: eight games is a very fair number considering what they

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Speaker 4: did last year, and they get pretty much everyone back.

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Speaker 1: I love Jalen High.

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Speaker 4: It's looked great in camp and he should be one

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Speaker 4: of those game breaking receivers that hopefully Daniel Jones can

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Speaker 4: rely on. And again, it's really just Dable making Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones into this capable quarterback. And I think the defense

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Speaker 4: needs to improve. I hope it does, but I think

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Speaker 4: those are very fair numbers. Seven and a half. They

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Speaker 4: don't even have to finish five hundred on the year.

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Speaker 4: The Giants and the packers. I think both go over

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Speaker 4: their win totals this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right. I'll give you two teams also,

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Speaker 3: and they both come out of the AFC South. I

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Speaker 3: think the Tennessee Titans and the Jacksonville Jaguars both have

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Speaker 3: a chance to beat the win totals that they're slotted

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Speaker 3: out Tennessee at seven and a half. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: let's face it, If Derek hen He stays healthy and

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Speaker 3: now Ryan Tannehill has a passing target in Tennessee, life's

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Speaker 3: going to be kind of back to business as usual

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Speaker 3: for the Tennessee Titans. And I think Mike Rabel has

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Speaker 3: built a very strong culture there. Albeit this was a

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Speaker 3: very disappointing seven win football team last year and they

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Speaker 3: have some problems on defense. All of a sudden, I

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Speaker 3: sort of feel like there's a good culture in place,

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Speaker 3: and with that offense replenished, it should look very different

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Speaker 3: this year than it does next year, assuming or last year,

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Speaker 3: assuming health. Jacksonville nine and a half feels too low

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Speaker 3: for a team that finished the season as hot as

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Speaker 3: they did. And I'm a big believer in Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: and his talents as a head coach, big believer in

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence from what he did in college and then

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Speaker 3: obviously what he's been able to do recovering from his

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Speaker 3: rookie year with a huge bounce back and now a

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Speaker 3: full off season with Peterson. Yeah, I'm high on the

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars to beat that nine and a half mark

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Speaker 3: this year. So those are my two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in a tough spot here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did we take all of your teams?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to make it. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to make it a total over party, but I also

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Speaker 2: don't want to go head to head with one of

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Speaker 2: the selections here.

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Speaker 1: Want to change up the vibes?

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I got you here here. Let me give

1289
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: you my two real fast. I feel like a good

1290
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: bet is even if it goes wrong, you're not even

1291
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: mad about it, you know what I mean? Like you

1292
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: shrug your shoulders like, man, I just didn't see that coming.

1293
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm not even really mad, right, Like, that's what my

1294
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: reaction would be if the Rams aren't over six and

1295
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 2: a half. Wow, I think it's gone way too far

1296
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: where it's been a knee jerk reaction to last season,

1297
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: where it was a disastrous season. They won the super

1298
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: Bowl seasons ago. Then last season they fall all the

1299
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: way to five and twelve, and right now we're just

1300
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: acting like they're flat out trash. And I look at

1301
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: them and I'm like, they had Matthew Stafford miss half

1302
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: the season, they had Cooper Cup miss half the season,

1303
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: they had Aaron Donald miss a lot of the season.

1304
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: Like that's that's the core of their team. Those are

1305
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: their three most important guys by far, and so blessed

1306
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: with better injury luck. I think that makes up the

1307
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: difference of two wins. They went five and twelve with

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01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: all those injuries last season, and they're in the NFC

1309
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: right like, it's not a gauntlet in the NFC, so

1310
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: I absolutely can see them getting to at least seven

1311
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: and ten. I know they don't have the same team

1312
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: as two seasons ago, that's obvious. They don't have Jalen

1313
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: Ramsey either, a lot of changes, a lot of young guys,

1314
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: but they aren't night and day roster wise now compared

1315
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 2: to two years ago when they won a Super Bowls.

1316
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: I'm taking them over six and a half and the

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,520
Speaker 2: other one I've got the Packers under seven and a half.

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01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jared like and you might be completely right

1319
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 2: about this. You might end up being right. But the

1320
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: way I look at it, I'm looking at Jordan Love

1321
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: with eighty three NFL passing attempts in his career. So

1322
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 2: he's young, he's a first year starter, and he's throwing

1323
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: to either first or second year guys all over him.

1324
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: Like there are two rookie tight ends, there's a rookie slot.

1325
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: There are second year wide receivers, young guys everywhere. So

1326
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: unless their formula is pound the rock defense and sprinkle

1327
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: in the passing game, they're a bit of the Patriots

1328
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: of the NFC, you know what I mean. Like, I

1329
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: don't know how successful that's gonna be. So you go

1330
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: from a a back to back MVP and Rogers whose

1331
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: numbers took a significant step back last season, and I'm

1332
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: expecting Jordan Love to do a lot better. I just

1333
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 2: don't see it. So I've got them going seven and

1334
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,919
Speaker 2: ten or worse this season. I'm under on the Packers.

1335
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: You know, I'll give you an under two.

1336
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 3: The nine and a half mark for the Cleveland Browns

1337
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: is way too high in my mind. Wow, Like I

1338
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: just listen, I have no faith in Deshaun Watson this season.

1339
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 3: And this is one where I could be completely wrong,

1340
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: and maybe you know, emotions are factoring into this. But

1341
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 3: do the Browns feel like a ten win team? I mean, yeah,

1342
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 3: they're They're probably in a good spot in their division,

1343
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: with the Steelers breaking in a new quarterback, you know,

1344
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: pick It entering year two, and the recent you know,

1345
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: depression in Baltimore. But I, I just I don't know,

1346
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 3: there's to me that that six game stretch. It's not

1347
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 3: like he really vastly improved as he was knocking off

1348
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 3: some of the rust. And I just I don't know.

1349
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that nine and a half, Like we're

1350
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: talking about a ten win season. Okay, nine I could see,

1351
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 3: but ten wins I don't know. I So, yeah, the Browns.

1352
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: I'll take the under all day on the Browns.

1353
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1354
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: I think the Browns are a little more of a

1355
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 4: Schrodinger's cut because we just don't know what we're gonna

1356
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 4: see with Watson. All from all things I've heard have

1357
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 4: been very positive. Back to the Rams, I actually did

1358
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: some I did a segment on the Rams earlier this week,

1359
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: and I really dug into their schedule, Brian, and the

1360
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 4: one thing I saw that really scared me was they

1361
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 4: have one of the worst net rest edges in all

1362
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 4: the league. And what I mean by that is they

1363
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: play four games against teams coming off of a bye,

1364
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 4: and they play a game on short rest this year,

1365
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 4: and they only play two games with the rest advantage.

1366
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 4: And I know those things right now might not matter,

1367
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 4: but when we get into the season and it's a long,

1368
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 4: grueling season, the rest advantages matter. And right now all

1369
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 4: we have to go by is kind of the analysis

1370
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: we can offer each schedule.

1371
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: The one thing that's positive I think for them.

1372
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 4: Is they get to face a bunch of rookie head

1373
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 4: coaches this year, two out of the three. And their

1374
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 4: offense of line injury look was.

1375
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: So bad last year.

1376
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 4: I think there's room for improvement with the Rams, but

1377
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 4: I don't know what the depth will look like because

1378
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 4: they just they're they're still ripping that Super Bowl team

1379
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 4: down to the studs. They finally had a season where

1380
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: they drafted fourteen guys, which is the most that they've

1381
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 4: drafted in the McVeagh area, But they spent the least

1382
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: amount of money in free agency, less than seven million

1383
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 4: dollars in free agency, because they're still strapped for cash

1384
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 4: from that Super Bowl year. So weird year for the Rams.

1385
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 4: Talents there, but the depth isn't and I think I

1386
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 4: could see it going over.

1387
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: And they played the Cardinals twice, which will certainly help.

1388
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that absolutely in a last play schedule, So you

1389
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 2: get the Colts, get the Packers. Yeah, get the Sorry

1390
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: a third place schedule, but you get the Colts, the Packers.

1391
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: Saints will be better, but you're just trying to get

1392
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: to seven wins. And and the other thing I hear

1393
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: you on the lack of depth. There's no doubt about that.

1394
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: But what's funny is sometimes we just say, oh, they

1395
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: got so many young guys, that's not good. Well that's

1396
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: not necessarily true. You know, this doesn't happen every year.

1397
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: But think about the Seahawks and how many contributions they

1398
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: had from young guys that were studs last season. Are

1399
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: you talking at like offensive tackle and corner and key spots?

1400
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 2: So hey, maybe the Rams, who I agree they have

1401
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: a lack of depth, but maybe some of the young guys.

1402
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: A couple of them hit the ground running and blessed

1403
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: with better injury luck. I can see the over.

1404
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 1: We got a lot of Packers though, right, maybe that

1405
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: young guys hit the ground running.

1406
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: Nah No, that's just crazy. Not matched with Jordan Love.

1407
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: I like the chances of you know, veterans.

1408
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: I'll do a side bet.

1409
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 4: How about I'll do a side We'll do a side

1410
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 4: bet on the Packers twin total this year.

1411
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: You and me.

1412
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: You know, it's fun. We can do that. And what's

1413
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: funny is I'm filling in sometimes from Milwaukee station. Oh

1414
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: they hate me already. Oh yeah, well yeah, yeah, I

1415
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: wish I had a solid.

1416
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: I just don't.

1417
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: We've got rich oron Berger, Penn State, All American, Jared

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01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No coming up next,

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Speaker 2: and all in Move sucks. All right, shocker. It's Fox

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01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:05,679
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Speaker 2: the Angels have lost four straight. Crazy, I've shocked. Can't

1429
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: believe this scene that was hot right up until the

1430
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: trade deadline is cooled off after going all in.

1431
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 3: Are you suggesting they should have traded one of their.

1432
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: Star Yeah, yeah, a guy who's given you all these

1433
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: indications in Otani that he's gonna walk when it's time

1434
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: to re upt, you gonna runna h tail it out

1435
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: of there. Yeah yeah, I would uh trace back to

1436
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: you should have traded him?

1437
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 3: Why you could?

1438
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: Instead, he's gonna most likely walk and you get nothing.

1439
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: Not good, not a good business plan.

1440
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 3: I look, I understood the entire time what you were saying,

1441
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: and I don't disagree. And I've said this many times.

1442
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: I like, I look, I'm not a big I told

1443
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: you so, Brian no Is, and I told you so guy.

1444
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna be plastered on his I'm still my guy.

1445
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: It'll be his epitaph. What I look at the life

1446
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 3: through this lens, though, Sometimes you have to make the

1447
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 3: wrong decision to be right, and I think that's what

1448
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 3: the Angels had to do. Like I, I mean, there

1449
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: was there was, there was, trust me, all the sense

1450
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: and all the signs pointing to Tradingani, except for one thing,

1451
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 3: and It's the only thing I think that matters to

1452
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: the Angels, to the organization is then you're the team

1453
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 3: that traded Otani and they and they didn't want that

1454
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 3: on their tombstones. So that's the only thing that the

1455
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: only point I was making, the only point that I

1456
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: could possibly agree with at this sting. But yeah, like

1457
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 3: you're right on the other side of the trade deadline.

1458
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: Do we expect fireworks?

1459
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 4: No?

1460
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 3: I mean, Otani's been struggling with little nagging injuries. This

1461
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 3: team does not look like a playoff team. They're still

1462
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: out of the wild card. It's it's it's not looking

1463
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 3: good for the Angels.

1464
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: You know what.

1465
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 4: It reminds me of when you're watching one of those

1466
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 4: like action movies and like the one guy that's like

1467
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 4: a sort of main character, but like not the main character.

1468
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: It's like, no, you go ahead, I'm gonna stay behind

1469
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 4: and hold off all the enemies, and you're like, yeah,

1470
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 4: that guy's that that guy screw he has no chance.

1471
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like what the decision was. Yeah,

1472
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: you were It's it was an admirable decision. I respect it.

1473
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 4: They went for it, they failed and they lost, and

1474
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 4: they're probably they went all in with Jack four.

1475
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: They're morons forever doing it. Coming up next it's going

1476
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: to be one awkward season. It's gonna be one awkward season.

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Speaker 3: That is on the way.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: and think for the Pac twelve, how awkward this season

1485
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 2: is going to be. Where the elephant in the room

1486
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: is eight of the twelve teams leaving next year. So

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01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: think about that when you're watching a Pac twelve game

1488
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: this season and say it's I don't know, USC and Oregon.

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Speaker 2: How can you not be thinking both these teams are

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: gonna be in the Big Ten next season, but you're

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Speaker 2: watching the game, Howard broadcasters not going to allude to

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01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 2: that at some point, And it's just it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of movement, man, it's a lot. I understand this is

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01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: the way it's going. Teams are chasing the money or

1495
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 2: as Dean Sanders said, they're chasing the bag his school included.

1496
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: But it's just too much for me. I just look

1497
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 2: at the NFL. Can you imagine if the equivalent were

1498
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: happening in the NFL where you're just like, oh, are

1499
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys gonna win the NFC East And you're like,

1500
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 2: you didn't hear they're in the AFC South now, Right,

1501
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: It's just like one after another after another. It's just

1502
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: there's just too much going on. And I always think

1503
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: about this, where is this going? This is the ultimate

1504
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: dating question of like, hey, we've hung out for two weeks,

1505
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: where is this going? Right? That's what I wonder with football, right, Yeah,

1506
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: normally were the ones receiving those questions then asking them,

1507
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 2: but the questions exist in dating. That's how I feel

1508
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: with college football. Okay, we got these teams going here

1509
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: and switching conferences in the Pac twelve is pretty much

1510
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: no more. Where is this ultimately headed? And we're just

1511
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: guessing right now where that ultimately is.

1512
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever watch those shows or maybe there's somebody

1513
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: in your life where they're super disorganized and then somebody

1514
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: walks in in the terms of the television show like

1515
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 3: they then over the course of television magic in thirty minutes,

1516
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that office at that business is

1517
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: completely organized, or you know that that garage has been

1518
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: emptied out and a new organizational system has been put

1519
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 3: in its place. And then the person who is disorganized

1520
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 3: defending the disorganization, saying, I know where everything is. My

1521
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 3: brain's like a steel trap, Like, yeah, it may look

1522
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 3: clutter to everybody else, but I know exactly where our

1523
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: taxes from twenty seventeen are. Like no, no, no, no, Hang

1524
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: on a second. You have papers everywhere. There is no

1525
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 3: method to this madness. If you just put it all

1526
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,480
Speaker 3: in binders, or if you put it all into file cabinets,

1527
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna have an easier time finding everything. Like that's

1528
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 3: what college football feels like to me right now. And

1529
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: you have a lot of people who look at it

1530
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: and say, well, this is the way it's always been.

1531
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 3: But from an outside perspective, if you forget everything you

1532
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: know about college football and then you look at college

1533
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 3: football and you say, try to make sense of this,

1534
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: you know, you go, all, right, well you got these conferences,

1535
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 3: five of them, and you're like, yeah, we got five conferences.

1536
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 3: It's like okay, and they all, you know, they all

1537
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 3: have champions, so those champions are selected because they have

1538
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 3: a playoff within those conferences. Like no, no, okay, Well,

1539
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 3: do all the conferences at least have even number of teams?

1540
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 13: Oh?

1541
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely not? Okay, do all these conferences geographically make sense?

1542
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: No?

1543
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: No, I mean, and you just go down the list

1544
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: of like reasons why college football should make sense better sense,

1545
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 3: And it's almost defensible where we're currently at. And so

1546
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 3: again I'm not saying where we're heading in the short

1547
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: term is anything better, because it may be significantly worse,

1548
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm hopeful that where we may be heading

1549
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: is better, like where where potentially all this realignment could

1550
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 3: go is better. At one point, it felt like it

1551
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 3: was hopeless. College football was never going to figure this out.

1552
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: This was always gonna be bizarre. You're always gonna feel

1553
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: like somebody is getting crown a national championship who maybe

1554
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: deserves it, But you kind of think there's maybe one

1555
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 3: or two other teams that have a decent gripe about

1556
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 3: how things were chosen. Maybe we head to something that

1557
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 3: makes sense, because as it turns or as it stands

1558
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 3: right now, it makes zero sense.

1559
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 4: Brian Lend's your birthday November fourth, Remind me I'm gonna

1560
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 4: buy you the book Who Moved My Cheese Cope with

1561
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 4: some of the changes. I don't know if you guys

1562
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 4: ever heard of that book.

1563
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, great book. I've read it before. I read it

1564
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: when I was young, actually, and it again. I'm being

1565
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: a little bit disease here, but the.

1566
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 4: Change is inevitable in sports, the amount of money that

1567
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 4: gets tossed around year to year, it is inevitable that

1568
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 4: people want to chase that money. And the only way

1569
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 4: that you can chase it is to amend the current

1570
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: structures that are currently in place, because you're the glass

1571
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 4: ceiling of how much money you can make, how much

1572
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 4: money you can earn, how much money can get funneled

1573
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 4: into each respective conference, based on whatever TV deal is

1574
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 4: currently set in place. Those TV deals usually get renegotiated

1575
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 4: every few years, and that's when all the movement happens.

1576
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 4: And it just so happens that the accelerant has kind

1577
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 4: of hit us now and we're kind of in that

1578
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 4: transition period. And to answer Rich's question, I don't know

1579
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: where it's going. I have absolutely no idea. I think

1580
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: there's a couple of reasonable solutions. But for us to

1581
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 4: say here on August fifth that we can predict where

1582
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 4: this is going to go, I think is naive on

1583
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 4: our part. So the answer is, we have college football

1584
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 4: happening in a few weeks, very excited about it.

1585
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Nothing will change this year.

1586
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 4: It's going to be a season as normal of a

1587
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 4: season as we could possibly have, and we will take

1588
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 4: each week as it comes, and just like we do

1589
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 4: during the college football season, the landscape changes. This team

1590
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 4: gets hot, this team gets cold, trending up, trending down,

1591
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 4: We move our wagers accordingly, we focus our attention on

1592
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 4: whatever's happening, and then when we zoom out at the

1593
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 4: end of the year and we go macro again, we

1594
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 4: will handle it as the situations arise. I mean, I

1595
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 4: wish that I could really tell everyone where this is going,

1596
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: but I think it's impossible to do that, and we

1597
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 4: just have to just take it as it comes, let

1598
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 4: the universe kind of unfold the way that it does,

1599
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 4: and then we react to it accordingly.

1600
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 2: I can do a better job of telling you where

1601
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: it's not going than where it is going. It reminds

1602
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: me of the NFL. It'd be like trying to come

1603
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: up with who's going to win the Super Bowl. I

1604
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: can do a better job of telling you it's not

1605
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 2: going to be the Texans, It's not going to be

1606
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: the Packers, on and on and on, right, Like, I

1607
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: can't tell you who it's going to be, though, And

1608
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about this whole realignment thing. I

1609
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: can tell you it's not going to be like the NFL,

1610
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: where we have two major conferences and that's it. We

1611
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: just have the big ten in the SEC and then

1612
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: screw everybody else. Like, that's not going to be what

1613
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: it is. But I can't tell you what it is

1614
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 2: going to be at that I don't know. The other

1615
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 2: thing that stands out to me is the missteps of

1616
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve commissioners plural, because you go back to

1617
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: Larry Scott in twenty eleven. Remember this, They had the

1618
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: opportunity to add four schools. They could have added Texas

1619
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma as well as Texas Tech in Oklahoma state,

1620
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: and they decided not to. They could have been ahead

1621
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 2: of all of this.

1622
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

1623
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Even USC Athletic Director Pat Hayden at the time, he's like,

1624
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: we don't need sixteen teams, and now look at him.

1625
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: And then also Dan Patrick explained this an offer that

1626
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve turned down last year. This is the

1627
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: current PAC twelve commissioner, George Khleiovkoff. He was presented with

1628
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: an interesting opportunity that he said nah, and look how

1629
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: it turned out. Here's dp.

1630
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 10: Apparently there was a call last year from the Big

1631
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,520
Speaker 10: twelve to the PAC twelve to say, hey, the commissioners,

1632
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 10: could we talk about maybe a merger here? And then,

1633
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 10: according to Ross Dellinger of Yahoo Sports, the PAC twelve

1634
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 10: commissioner said no, weren't They weren't interested in a merger.

1635
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 10: And then fast forward to this year. Reportedly, the commissioner

1636
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 10: reached out to the Big twelve commissioner Bob Bolsby and went, hey,

1637
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 10: what about that merger? And then the Big twelve went no,

1638
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 10: not interested. M that's crazy.

1639
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: You could have added four teams in twenty eleven you

1640
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 2: said no. You could have merged with the Big twelve

1641
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 2: last year and you said no, And now you have

1642
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: four teams in the PAC twelve. It is unbelievable how

1643
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 2: quickly things have changed.

1644
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And if you rewind the clock

1645
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 3: even further and you go back to the pandemic. When

1646
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 3: you had the alliance that was struck between the Big Ten,

1647
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve, and I'm on the alliance. It was

1648
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: acc because they were worried about the SEC poaching teams

1649
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 3: and the Big ten poaching teams. They were basically saying, hey, look,

1650
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:50,919
Speaker 3: you know, we're aligned to make sure that nobody weakens

1651
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 3: each other's conference here. Well, what ended up happening was

1652
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 3: when they were when they were questioned.

1653
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: At the zoom you want we got this.

1654
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: The sound is so good.

1655
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 3: You got to hear George Kleivkov here answering a question

1656
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 3: about exactly what binds these conferences together.

1657
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go.

1658
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, Hey, guys, I'm curious what kind of document has

1659
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 14: been signed or will be signed to formalize this alliance.

1660
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 14: How will it be legally enforceable? And will it include

1661
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 14: any language that prevents one league in this alliance from

1662
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 14: poaching members of another league.

1663
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 15: We'll go ahead and start with Commissioner Kleabkov for this.

1664
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 16: There's no sign contract. There's an agreement among three gentlemen,

1665
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 16: and there is a commitment from forty one presidents and

1666
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 16: chancellors and forty one athletic directors to do what we

1667
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 16: say we're going to do. If there's any lack of

1668
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 16: specificity in the press release, it's because we want to

1669
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 16: make sure we could deliver one hundred percent of what

1670
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 16: we promised. So we're aligned in how we want to

1671
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 16: approach this. But there's no contract, there's no sign document,

1672
01:30:58,600 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 16: and there doesn't need to be.

1673
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 2: Think about that, guys, where Kevin Warren was the Big

1674
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: ten commissioner at the time, he's on the zoom call.

1675
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: You see all three of these conference commissioners, and he

1676
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 2: has taken USC UCLA, and now the new Big ten

1677
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 2: commissioner has taken Oregon and Washington all back twelve schools.

1678
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: That is unreal, right there, man.

1679
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, And what's amazing about the alliance back then

1680
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 17: is even in that answer, there was a certain feeling

1681
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 17: of the way he's answering that question is because I

1682
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:37,799
Speaker 17: believe that the PAC.

1683
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 3: Twelve, the commissioner, the the committee that that you know

1684
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: that that is that surrounds the commissioner. They believe they

1685
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 3: were in a powerful seat. They believed that they were

1686
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 3: going to have sway that they potentially were going to

1687
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 3: be able to lure other teams to their conference. And

1688
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 3: that was part of the reason why he answered that

1689
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 3: question that way was because a contract would only get

1690
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 3: in the way of being able to execute what they

1691
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 3: wanted to and then all of a sudden, I mean,

1692
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 3: it just got turned around on them. And that's again,

1693
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 3: you know, going back to something that Jared said earlier,

1694
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 3: and that's life. You know. Sometimes you are at the

1695
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 3: tippy top of the mountain and sometimes you're tumbling down,

1696
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 3: and sometimes you're somebody climbing aiming to get to the top,

1697
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,839
Speaker 3: watching others tumbling down. And right now, the PAC twelve

1698
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 3: is unfortunately just snowballing into the abyss, and come next week,

1699
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 3: we may not have a PAC twelve in twenty twenty four,

1700
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 3: it may be completely scrapped or rebranded, or completely absorbed

1701
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 3: by other conferences. I mean, this is this is heading

1702
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 3: somewhere really treacherous, really quickly.

1703
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 4: So I didn't know that sound existed until this morning

1704
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 4: when you guys played it for me or it was

1705
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 4: sent to the group. I think Rich you were the

1706
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 4: one that brought it to our attention. Yeah, that is

1707
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 4: my new favorite clip of any clip, because you see

1708
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 4: Kevin Warrens and there's a there's a there's a video,

1709
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 4: you know, aspect to it.

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01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: You see his face when when so.

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01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 4: Back twelve commissioners, Yeah, we don't need no stinked contract,

1712
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 4: like we're good.

1713
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: This is a gentleman's agreement.

1714
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: And Kevin Warren's like, oh man, like you could almost

1715
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 4: like feel the awkwardness happening. Yeah, this is this is

1716
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 4: a really this is one of the more ironic situations

1717
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 4: I think in sports, and all you can do is

1718
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 4: kind of laugh. It is kind of funny, but also

1719
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 4: it's sad in a way. It's it's sad in a

1720
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 4: in a humorous way that it did play out this

1721
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 4: way because it's false bravado.

1722
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: It was all false bravado from the PAC twelve.

1723
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 4: They felt that they had a very powerful hand, and

1724
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 4: I don't think they we're reading the room properly. It's

1725
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: like if you're if you can't spot the sucker at

1726
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 4: the poker table, it's probably you And unfortunately it's.

1727
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve that's stuck with the check here.

1728
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 2: That's totally what it is. It's like a Djenga tower. Yea,

1729
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 2: and the PAC twelve thought we haven't even removed one block.

1730
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: We're good, and USC and UCLA that was like removing

1731
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 2: the block on the bottom. It just weakened everything. Yeah,

1732
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: you're like, we're the Conference of Champions. We've been around

1733
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 2: for over one hundred years. You kidding me? And it's done.

1734
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 2: Our trusted producer Bo Benson has something for us.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, given the timeline of everything that's happened, do you

1736
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 15: guys think that Kevin Warren, like immediately after that video call,

1737
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 15: hung up and called USC and UCLA and was like hey,

1738
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 15: uh you.

1739
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: Could see it in his face.

1740
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like, you're screwed.

1741
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 15: I think everybody said at that moment in time, when

1742
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 15: there was like, yeah, there's no binding agreement, we were

1743
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 15: just all like, oh, okay, so this is not going

1744
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 15: to go the way anybody thought it's gonna go general agreement.

1745
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: Like, come on, I get out of here with that.

1746
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's no honor amongst thieves. It's the oldest,

1747
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 3: it's the oldest cliche in the book. And the reality

1748
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 3: is I'm not calling these commissioners thieves necessarily, but they

1749
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 3: are stealing teams from other conferences. I mean they're taking

1750
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 3: what isn't necessarily rightfully there for their own gain and

1751
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,919
Speaker 3: for a better TV network package, for monetary value and whatever.

1752
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 3: Respectable handshake agreement. If that were even possible during the pandemic.

1753
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure you're allowed to shake hands during

1754
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 3: the pandemic, Like, I mean, whatever that was, Yeah, the

1755
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 3: virtual handshake. There might have been a button for that

1756
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 3: on the zoom call.

1757
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1758
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 3: But there was nothing in writing, there was nothing. There

1759
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 3: was no money attached to this agreement. So there was

1760
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 3: no honor in this agreement. Because that's what these people are, literally,

1761
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 3: that's what their roles are. It's like, Okay, if you're

1762
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 3: gonna be our commissioner, how can you make us the

1763
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 3: most money possible? And Kevin Warren and the Big ten

1764
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 3: and all of the chancellors and university presidents and the

1765
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 3: governors and athletic directors win. Oh, this is quite easy.

1766
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 3: This is poaching the two best teams, or the two

1767
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 3: biggest teams from this this specific conference, and whether or

1768
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 3: not it leads to their ruin is of no consequence

1769
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 3: to us. So let's do it. And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: This story involving Iowa and Iowa State. So there are

1815
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 2: seven college athletes that caught betting on their own games,

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01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 2: and they could face a lifetime ban. That's according to

1817
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 2: NCAA regulations. Now, Rich, let me state emphatically, I love you. Okay,

1818
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 2: nothing I say deter from that fact. But there is

1819
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:29,719
Speaker 2: no way it will ever ever happen where a college

1820
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: athletes or NFL players will be allowed to bet on

1821
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:37,919
Speaker 2: their own team. You've got these college athletes. They're facing

1822
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 2: a lifetime ban for betting on their own teams. It

1823
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Speaker 2: will never happen.

1824
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I.

1825
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: Can't wait to hear this.

1826
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: Reggie Bush got his Heisman trophy taken away, and at

1827
01:39:56,720 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 3: the time, there was a chorus of from people who thought, yeah, well,

1828
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 3: you know, look, you break the rules, and them's the breaks.

1829
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 3: Everybody feels differently about that. Now, maybe not everybody, because

1830
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 3: there's some people saying, well, yeah, look those who are

1831
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 3: the rules in place at the time, and he, you know,

1832
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 3: broke rules or his family broke rules, and so you know,

1833
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 3: life is tough and rules change, and you know we're

1834
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 3: not going to you know, free everybody of the responsibility

1835
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 3: to follow the rules even though the rules have changed. Okay,

1836
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 3: but most people feel very differently about college athletes receiving

1837
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 3: goods or profiting from the sport that they play in

1838
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 3: now because things have changed real quickly recently, and we

1839
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 3: look back on the anachronism of that punishment levied by

1840
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 3: the NCAA and we say, oh, that's weird. It's weird

1841
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 3: that Reggie Bush doesn't have his heisman, you know. So

1842
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at with this whole gambling thing. I

1843
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: think that the rules are fairly complicated in the NFL.

1844
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 3: They're a little simpler in college sports, but they're still

1845
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 3: complicated in that there are times when you can gamble

1846
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 3: on other sports, but you're just not allowed to do

1847
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 3: it in certain you know, geographical locations. You're not allowed

1848
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 3: to do it at certain times of the year or

1849
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 3: on certain sports. Like there's these boundaries that have been

1850
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 3: put in plate. My thought process is, just make this

1851
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 3: all simpler. Just give like maybe two rules, like you're

1852
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 3: not allowed to bet against your own team, you're not

1853
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 3: allowed to bet on player propositions, and let's just move

1854
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 3: on because then it's easier to police too. Then it's

1855
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 3: very clear. It's like holy cow, like, yeah, you know,

1856
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 3: this player bet on other players' props because he knew

1857
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 3: that they had two injured wide receiver going into the game,

1858
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 3: and so he just made a boatload of cash using

1859
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 3: insider information or obviously, betting against the team you play

1860
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 3: on creates an open door for point shaving and things

1861
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 3: of that nature. So I just think, I just think

1862
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:21,839
Speaker 3: it's all too confusing. I know you're against this thought process.

1863
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 3: I know you think that we'll say never for now,

1864
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 3: and it feels good to say that. But in ten

1865
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 3: years I could very easily see players being allowed to

1866
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 3: bet on at very least their own games, if not more.

1867
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:41,440
Speaker 4: I really like the Reggie Bush comparison because I agree.

1868
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: I do think a lot of people have softened their

1869
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 4: stance on what Reggie was I would say punished pretty

1870
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 4: severely for and that landscape has changed dramatically. Just like

1871
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 4: ten years ago, we couldn't make a legal bet in

1872
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 4: this country on a football game outside.

1873
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: Of the state of Nevada right now, that is very different.

1874
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 4: Also, less than ten years ago, the NFL, who would

1875
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 4: never even dream of having a franchise in Las Vegas,

1876
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,480
Speaker 4: they pulled Tony Romo off of a fantasy sports platform

1877
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,799
Speaker 4: once because they wanted to avoid any improprieties between fantasy

1878
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 4: and gambling and the NFL, so yes, the landscape could change,

1879
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 4: things can change. The part where he lost me a

1880
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 4: little bit rich is the player prop thing and what

1881
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 4: people can or can't bet on, because I can make

1882
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 4: an argument that a player that knows the game plan

1883
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 4: like the back of his hand and knows that we

1884
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 4: are going to come out and we are going to

1885
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 4: run the ball because we know this team is not

1886
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 4: only struggles to stop the run, but we need to

1887
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 4: keep their offense on the sidelines. I would argue that

1888
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 4: a first quarter under in that scenario is a highly

1889
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 4: insider trading type bet. We know we're going to get

1890
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 4: the ball and run the ball fifteen times and that

1891
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 4: clock's going to keep moving, and the first quarter total

1892
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 4: is wrong because they think we're gonna come out and

1893
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 4: pass and we're really gonna run. And that's why I

1894
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 4: think making the distinction between oh, well, you can't bet

1895
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 4: a player prop, but you could bet a total doesn't

1896
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 4: really make any sense to me. And I think that's

1897
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 4: where I would amend these rules to obviously be more simplistic,

1898
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 4: because clearly there's some issues with people following them, but

1899
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 4: I don't think the whole oh well, you can't bet

1900
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 4: a player prop, but it's okay to bet a first

1901
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 4: quarter total because to me, again, you could find edges

1902
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 4: if you know the game plan and you know you're

1903
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 4: gonna do something counterintuitive to what the market thinks. And

1904
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 4: that's what most teams try to do every week, is

1905
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 4: try to find some kind of hidden edge or hidden

1906
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 4: angle to beat their opponent. To me, I think that

1907
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 4: is where we get into this very gray area Pandora's

1908
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 4: box that I don't want to go. And I'm not

1909
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,839
Speaker 4: in favor of players betting on their teams or even frankly,

1910
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 4: this sport that they play. I think that should be

1911
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 4: the dividing line for me. If you're a football player,

1912
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 4: college or NFL, don't bet. Don't bet football. Stick to

1913
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 4: the other sport, stick to baseball and golf, and there's

1914
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 4: not going to be any gray area there that you're

1915
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 4: betting a golf tournament and you're a football player, whereas

1916
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 4: college football, you know all the coaches probably that played

1917
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 4: at that college or a coach at that you know,

1918
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 4: so there is a little more gray area with college

1919
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 4: football to the NFL, where I think the rule more

1920
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 4: should be, if you're a football player, you can't bet football, period.

1921
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 2: End of story well, here's the thing. Things can change,

1922
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,839
Speaker 2: but how much are they going to change? That's the question,

1923
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,759
Speaker 2: because if you look at this Reggie Bush and betting

1924
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 2: on your own team side by side comparison, Yeah, some

1925
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 2: of the opinions have changed about Reggie Bush, but his

1926
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 2: heisman still vacated. Those wins aren't going to be restored. Like,

1927
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 2: there's only so much that is changed. There's not anything

1928
01:45:55,920 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 2: that's changed in multiple facets. Just the opinions have softened,

1929
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,839
Speaker 2: And what does that really mean. Nothing doesn't mean nothing's

1930
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 2: really changed. So as far as the players involved in

1931
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 2: college athletics or the NFL betting on their own teams,

1932
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 2: there's no way it's going to change from where it

1933
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 2: is right now, which is you could be facing a

1934
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 2: lifetime ban in college sports if you're busted betting on

1935
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 2: your own team. It's not gonna go from a lifetime

1936
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 2: ban to it's all good, do it. It's fine. Like

1937
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 2: we're not going from Pete Rose being banned from baseball

1938
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 2: for betting on his own team to Justin Verlander putting

1939
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 2: some money on himself in his first start now with

1940
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 2: the Houston Astros that he's been traded, you know what

1941
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean like it's it's not going to go to

1942
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 2: that degree. You're not going to see that much change. Well,

1943
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 2: because at the heart of this, the integrity of the

1944
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 2: game is paramount. You have to know what you're watching

1945
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 2: is legit. It's so important for a college athletics, so

1946
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: important for the NFL. And on top of it, with

1947
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 2: the NFL, they're in bed with these sports books. The

1948
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 2: last thing they're gonna do is mess with the integrity

1949
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 2: of the game and also mess with the business relationship.

1950
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 2: Where do you think DraftKings or FANDUO is gonna be like,

1951
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 2: oh yeah, let these players gamble on their own teams.

1952
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: They have insider information. They might be able to make

1953
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: a killing with some of the things that they know

1954
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 2: that the general public doesn't know. It's never gonna happen. Ever, ever, ever, ever, I.

1955
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 3: Just don't buy it because I think that money is

1956
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:37,839
Speaker 3: valued over integrity in almost every single aspect of business.

1957
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just we're just talking about conference re alignment.

1958
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 3: Integrity has taken a not only a back seat, it's

1959
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 3: in the trunk and guess what, the latch just came unhinged.

1960
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 3: Money is everything in college sports. So I see an

1961
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 3: avenue I'm not saying it's in the near future, but

1962
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 3: I see an avenue where we're going to be having

1963
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 3: this conversation in ten years, in twenty years, and we're

1964
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about how you know, Like the example

1965
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 3: I made a couple of weeks ago about how you know,

1966
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott took a future's bet on the Dallas Cowboys

1967
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl and he put one hundred

1968
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 3: thousand dollars down on it. And guess what, half of

1969
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 3: the winnings or maybe the full winnings are gonna go

1970
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 3: to his charity, DA's Pack, you know what I mean.

1971
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 3: And everybody's gonna it's gonna be a feel good story

1972
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 3: for DraftKings, it's gonna be a feel good story for

1973
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 3: bet MGM, and they're gonna be like, yeah, we were

1974
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 3: affiliated with that, and we're so happy for Dak and

1975
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 3: he's gonna get that payout and it's gonna help a

1976
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 3: lot of the underprivileged kids in the Dallas Fort Worth area.

1977
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you, I can see the commercial like

1978
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 3: it I'm telling so I just feel like it maybe

1979
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 3: it's not going to take affect in the way that

1980
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 3: we think it will, Like where it's gonna be this unfettered.

1981
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 3: Everybody's betting on whatever they want outside of a couple of,

1982
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, stay away types of bets. But I could

1983
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 3: almost see like a separate betting app being made for

1984
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:17,799
Speaker 3: athletes to bet on sports.

1985
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the Farmers only dot Com dating app for

1986
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 4: athlete athlete totally athletes.

1987
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 2: Totally Christian mingle and athletes on.

1988
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 4: So I you know me, guys, I like to make predictions.

1989
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 4: I like to be right, just like we all like

1990
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 4: to be right, some more than others. Right, Brian, But

1991
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 4: but but we like we like to be able to

1992
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 4: It's comforting. It's comforting for us as human beings to

1993
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,759
Speaker 4: be able to close our eyes and predict the future

1994
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 4: and know what's going to happen. I have when it

1995
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 4: comes to betting, and when it comes to sports, I

1996
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 4: have a friend that has a I can't use it

1997
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 4: on the air because it has some fruity length and

1998
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 4: flavorful language, but it's nobody knows squat basically, and the

1999
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 4: way that I view sports betting, especially week to week

2000
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 4: with these games, the ball bounces in funny ways.

2001
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 1: It we have no idea where this is going. Again.

2002
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 1: Five years ago in this country.

2003
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 4: We could not place a legal bet on a game

2004
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 4: outside of a small jurisdiction, a small little desert here

2005
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 4: in the American Southwest. If you weren't in that little radius,

2006
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 4: you couldn't even consider making a wager, and the NFL

2007
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't even consider betting as a viable business option. And

2008
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 4: later it's completely changed.

2009
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 2: It's not happening, man.

2010
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying I agree with Rich's take that

2011
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 4: that is the world that we're going to live in

2012
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 4: down the road. But what I'm saying is there are

2013
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 4: so many different ways that this could go. Maybe it's

2014
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 4: not the exact way that Rich pointed out, but it

2015
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 4: could be in a similar way to where athletes are

2016
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 4: involved in the business structure of gambling in some capacity.

2017
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 4: They kind of are now indirectly through the leagues and

2018
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 4: they make money from the sportsbooks through the leagues. But

2019
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 4: maybe there's an alternate reality where they get in bed

2020
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,759
Speaker 4: with the sportsbooks personally and it's not just through the leagues.

2021
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 4: It's another business entity. No that pops up.

2022
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2023
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's retired.

2024
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 2: If they're retired, yes, if they're active, no, And for

2025
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: the record, I like being right. I love when bad

2026
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 2: logic has proven wrong. There's a huge difference. That's what's

2027
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 2: fueling this yere. Well, what's fueling us right now is

2028
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Isaac lowin kron We are way late. I low with

2029
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 2: the latest. Let's do it.

2030
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 9: We've actually got an international incident to tell you guys

2031
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 9: about that's coming up shortly, but first a national incident,

2032
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 9: because on Friday, the Pac twelve went from nine teams

2033
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 9: down to four teams, Oregon and Washington departing for the

2034
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 9: Big Ten, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah bolting for the

2035
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 9: Big twelve. No word yet on if this means that

2036
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 9: the Rose Bowl Game will now be known as the

2037
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 9: step Granddaddy of the Mall.

2038
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 11: Anyway, in machere baseball.

2039
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 9: The worst joke you've said, That's what I was going for.

2040
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,799
Speaker 9: In Major League Baseball, on Friday night, the Los Angeles

2041
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 9: Dodgers scored five at the top of the eighth wint

2042
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 9: at San Diego ten to five, Dodgers on a four

2043
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 9: game witning streak, Seattle over the Angels in Anaheim nine

2044
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 9: to seven. The Mariners have won five of six there now,

2045
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 9: within two and a half of the final Wild Card

2046
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 9: spot in the American League. Today in the NFL, the

2047
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 9: Indianapolis Colts signed free agent running back Kenyan Drake. The

2048
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 9: knockout round of the Women's World Cup kicked off overnight.

2049
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 9: Spain pummeled Switzerland five to one. Japan a three to

2050
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 9: one victory over Norway. Japan will face either Team USA

2051
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 9: or Sweden in the quarterfinals. The USA Sweden match kicks

2052
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 9: off at five am Eastern Time on Sunday in Melbourne,

2053
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 9: and Team USA has actually found itself in somewhat of

2054
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 9: a surprise and controversy when it referred to Melbourne in

2055
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 9: a social media post as Melby. Apparently, people in Melbourne

2056
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 9: have found this offensive, including Dorothy, who tweeted and I quote, no,

2057
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 9: our wonderful city has never ever been called Melby. Many

2058
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 9: neutral supporters may well now jump on Sweden's bandwagon as

2059
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:38,879
Speaker 9: a result, and you only have yourself to blame unquote.

2060
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 9: And Team USA star Alex Morgan was actually asked about

2061
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 9: all this during a news conference today.

2062
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 13: I didn't know there was a stir caused from shortening

2063
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 13: in a city's name. I mean, they say Brecky, so

2064
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 13: I thought Melby was just the next continuation of that.

2065
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 9: So I didn't know that either, So there Melves is

2066
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 9: acceptable but not Melby.

2067
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 11: Apparently, back to you guys.

2068
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 2: The world, you know I need the drop eye low

2069
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 2: of you going no that I can just play when

2070
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 2: Rich is talking about athletes betting on their own.

2071
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 9: Oh, you can do that, you can do that on demand,

2072
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 9: I'll be standing by.

2073
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 2: No.

2074
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean I've heard it, maybe even from Brian.

2075
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 13: No.

2076
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 3: Maybe I was listening to an earlier broadcast in your

2077
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 3: career where you said players, college football players and basketball

2078
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 3: players will never be paid. Like you can hear all

2079
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 3: those people going no, I guess I was wrong.

2080
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I've never said that. Uh huh,

2081
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:49,919
Speaker 2: definitely never your argument and your position is so bad

2082
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 2: you've been resorting you're left with this is just guestimating

2083
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 2: that I might have been one of those people to

2084
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,600
Speaker 2: potentially get But it's not a.

2085
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 3: Bad argument because there are so many things that everybody

2086
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 3: is up in arms with. It'll never happen, it can't happen,

2087
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 3: it won't happen. And guess what, there's no PAC twelve

2088
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 3: as of the end of this week, and so look

2089
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 3: conference and champions I'm just saying.

2090
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Like, like, what's our bet that's what I want to know.

2091
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 2: What's our bet? May ten years between twenty three? So

2092
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: we got Zill twenty oh, no more Mayo twenty thirty three. Huh,

2093
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 2: twenty thirty three, if players thirty three, If players are

2094
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: not allowed to bet on the teams they play for,

2095
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: I win.

2096
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: Okay, get a little longer.

2097
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 4: But what do you want to put on yourself till

2098
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 4: twenty forty three? Give yourself a clean two decades?

2099
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that might not.

2100
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: Be around that long.

2101
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 3: It will be your bet. I might get Okay, ten

2102
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 3: year bet, you know, I'll take the under. I'm taking

2103
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 3: the under, Okay, literally putting on it.

2104
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 11: That's what I want to What.

2105
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 3: Are we putting on it? Okay? I mean you know,

2106
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 3: let me think about it for a second. It's definitely

2107
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 3: not involved Mayo because I was absolutely awful last year. Gosh,

2108
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars thirty twenty dollars.

2109
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 4: What is the irony of players being able to bet

2110
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 4: but exactly bet on riches allowed?

2111
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? The inflation rate by the time ten years, that's

2112
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 3: gonna be where two packets of sugar, I mean twenty

2113
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Goodness, scretches.

2114
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 2: We'll figure out the details come it up. Next, we

2115
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 2: got calories. We got round table gambling talk for you

2116
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 2: with Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR

2117
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 2: betting Analyst. I'm Brian know that is on the way.

2118
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 2: As we close it down in style, It's Fox Sports

2119
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 2: Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

2120
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Speaker 3: No.

2121
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: One of pitches right.

2122
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 18: The O two is a fly ball to right field

2123
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 18: and deep out and Rob Tatis of a home running.

2124
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 18: Now he flecches his muscle and hits one out by himself.

2125
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 18: Fckie James out and his thirteenth home run of the year,

2126
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 18: and the Dodgers take a one to nothing league No.

2127
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:06,520
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2128
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Speaker 2: James Outman with the home run as the Dodgers beat

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Speaker 2: your padres, Rich was looking good. Three two lead in

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Speaker 2: the eighth and then good freaking lord, the bullpen did

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Speaker 2: not actually get it done Dodgers when that game. I

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Speaker 9: your own introduction, Brian for all of your shows. Here

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Speaker 9: is Brian.

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Speaker 2: get terrible idea right, just buy those?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whoever loses the betting bet by twenty third battery

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Speaker 1: Let's win twenty k on our gambling picks today. Huh,

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Speaker 1: all right?

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Speaker 4: Yes, run first in in Colorado St. Louis, Yes run

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Speaker 4: first inning, Kansas City, Philly, no run first inning, Houston,

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Speaker 4: New York, no run first inning, Tampa Bay Detroit, yes

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Speaker 4: run first inning.

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Speaker 1: Mets Orioles.

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Speaker 4: No analysis needed, just buckle up, baby, Yes and no

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Speaker 4: run first inning on a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm getting in on the nerfy's. I like I

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Speaker 3: like these nerfy's because I tried a yurfie and it

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Speaker 3: did I from y r f I to yelp. It

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Speaker 3: was not good. How about a nerfey in this Dodgers

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Speaker 3: San Diego Padres matchup tonight in San Diego. Padres are

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Speaker 3: basically allergic to hitting at home. They've been over the

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Speaker 3: course of the season if you look at their track

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Speaker 3: record there and Snell he's been on a tear this year.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going nurfy first inning.

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Speaker 2: Give me a Justin Verlander in the first five innings

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Speaker 2: and his debut for the Astros against the Yanks.

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Speaker 11: Boom no