1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. It is Draft Eve. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Draft a Eve, go happy the big day. I'll be 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: one hundred percent honest. For much of my life, I 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: had a really hard time sleeping on Draft A much 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: harder than Christmas Eve. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like an eight year old. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: And I even told my wife when I met her, 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: like when we were like serious, I'm like, night before 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: the draft on, just leave me alone. It'd be better 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: for you. You're not gonna want anything near me. And 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: I've matured since then, though, in my way, sort of 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: relatively speaking. Okay, well, so here we go. 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 4: Here we go. 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: Uh, let's just dive right into and we're going to the 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: deep end, right, We're going right into the deep end. 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: Here. 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: You sent me your list of twenty one last night. 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: I sat down and did my list of top twenty 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: one players last night. Previously, we had sat down and 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 2: did our twenty one yeah together, and so I wanted 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: to take a look at this and see where we 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: are the same, where we differ. 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 4: I think it's harder than any other year. 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: It's ridiculously hard. 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: It's really difficult, right. 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of guys I like, but 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: I had to push them super high because there's a 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: lot of guys that just don't fit, you. 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: Know, right, That's that's the thing. And there's some positions 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: that are going to be drafted high in the top 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: eighteen picks. The edge rushers, Abdol Carter's going the edge 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: guy put on here. Yeah, I don't I same here. 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's not they're not bad, good players, 37 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: but do I need a fourth edge? 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: You know? I mean I'm going to play for you, 39 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: you know. 40 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know you got to find a place 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: to for these guys to play at some point. And 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: I'm not talking three years from now, Like it's got 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: to be an opening where okay you can come in 44 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: and play now not. 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't a big board. I mean need 46 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: it matters and fit and scheme, And. 47 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: That's what people need to understand about the twenty one. 48 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: We might need to lay it out. 49 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, there are going to be players who are 50 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: going to be drafted higher than the spot that we 51 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: have them on our list. 52 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: Of We fully recognize that that's that's part of the exercise, right. 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: You know, we both have both tight ends, for example, 54 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: but we both have them lower. 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I expect them to be Steelers, right, don't. You 56 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: don't expect that? 57 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: But if something were to happen and all these players 58 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: ahead of them were gone, then they could be Steelers. 59 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: Right, You at least have to consider it. Yeah, right, 60 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: I mean. 61 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: You're not going to pass on a on a good 62 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: player just because well, we don't don't know what we're 63 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: going to do with them. 64 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: And that's what people often don't understand, and frankly, I 65 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: don't explain it as well as I should. Is the 66 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: twenty first pick in the draft, But there's a really 67 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: good chance you're going to end up with your ninth player. 68 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: You know, we're your fifth player and maybe your fifth 69 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: player in this draft. Most drafts, I don't think you 70 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: get your fifth to one. Probably you wouldn't have last year, 71 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: right because the tackles and quarterble and whatnot. But I 72 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: think this draft matches up well with the Steelers. 73 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: I think they've married their needs to what the draft 74 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: has available exactly exactly. 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: Again, they had a plan. They had a plan. I 76 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 4: don't know what they're don't have a plan. 77 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: There's no plan with the Steelers, they had a plan, 78 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: they didn't they you know, they looked at this defensive 79 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: tackle draft for example, that sample, right, Why would we 80 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: spend twenty million dollars or even thirteen million dollars on 81 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: Larry Logan. 82 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: Jobi right, and we can afford to let him go. 83 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: We can afford to let him go because this is 84 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: a great defensive line draft. We can replace him for 85 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: a much cheaper, younger, more available player, right. 86 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: That maybe has more upside or it could be here 87 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: for ten years, right, who knows? Right, So you're gonna 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: get you just want to dig in. 89 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously we can nitpick over the first couple, 90 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: but they're not going to be steeled. 91 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: We each have the same top three, we just have 92 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: them in different order. 93 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: Okay, none of what are going to be. 94 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: You have Travis Hunter, cam Ward Ashton, genty with the 95 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: first four, Travis Hunter, cam Ward Ashton, Jenny abdul Carter. Yes, 96 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: I have cam Ward, Travis Hunter, abdul Carter. I give 97 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: word the bump because of the quarterback. 98 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: Totally totally get value, totally get it, and he. 99 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Were available, they would take him over any player in 100 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: a draft because he has a potential to be He's 101 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: the best quarterback in this He's the. 102 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: Best quarterback in the draft. 103 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: And if they were picking with the Titans were probably 104 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: he would be the pick. I picked Hunter just because 105 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: I think he's the best prospect, and I think corner 106 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: and wide receivers in need. And if he was an 107 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: edge rusher and guard, I wouldn't be at him first. 108 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: It is quite quite a combination. So whatever, none of 109 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: those guys are going to be Steelers. 110 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: At five, you have Walter Nolan, which. 111 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: Is nuts because he might be there twenty one. He 112 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: might be. Yeah. 113 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: At five, I have Derek Harmon. 114 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: Okay, again, I've said this eight million times and I 115 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: probably have to. Well, I guess I am making a stand. Grant, 116 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: Nolan and Harmon, they're right here to me. Well, anyone 117 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: says Harmon separating himself for you, I think because of 118 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: his length, that's definitely one of he has. 119 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: He has the ideal traits that you're looking for in 120 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: a three four defensive end. Yes, he is the guy 121 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: in this draft who looks the most like Cam heywardree 122 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: with that part. Whereas I like Walter Nolan he's set. Again, 123 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: he's six on my list, but he's got shorter arms 124 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: he doesn't have he's six three in change. He's not 125 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: he's not sick. They look at different, right, Yeah, he's 126 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: not six four plus and you know, three hundred pounds. 127 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: So that was the differing. That was the difference from me. Again, 128 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: I like both players a lot. 129 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're really close to me. 130 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: Where we differ. You have Grant, Kenneth Grant at seven. 131 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: He's kind of distinguished himself as my third of the three, 132 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: but he's still in the same tier to me. 133 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: At seven and eight, I have Omari and Hampton and 134 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Travon Henderson. 135 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: We would differ on these the more. 136 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: I've dug in on Grant, and we've done this throughout 137 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: the process and with our with our mock drafts, he's 138 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: a nose. Yeah, he might be able to play some end. 139 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think he's not just gonna line up over 140 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 3: the center, but he's not going to be Cam Heyward, right, 141 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: you know, right, right. 142 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: So every time that we have done our mock drafts 143 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: and we've taken Kenneth Grant in the first round, we 144 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: get the rounds three and four and more like Oh, 145 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: I wish you if we hadn't taken Grant. There's these 146 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: three there. I just think the value. But if I 147 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: do it this way, if I take Hampton or Henderson, 148 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna like them a lot better than the third 149 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: or fourth round running back. 150 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: As you're saying. As you're saying, I thought, suppose I'm 151 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: not in running backs. Don't matter person, But I just 152 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: think the finances and the scarcity. 153 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: Oh, I understand, it's all about the position they play. 154 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: I understand. But if you get you get a and 155 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: I won't say neither one of these guys are Saquon Barkley, 156 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: right right, But if you get I can see Pro 157 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: Bowls in their free Yeah. 158 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: Right, that's the. 159 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: Thing if I can get, If I get a guy 160 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: who's going to give me fifteen hundred total yards over 161 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: the next five seasons every year. 162 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Yeah, that's a lot of yards, that's a 163 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: lot of touches. And they both contributed the passing game 164 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, you know, which is if they were 165 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: just one dimensional they'd be. 166 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: That's why I've I've moved Henderson way up in my rankings. 167 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: You know, we when we initially did our running back rankings, 168 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: I had him at number two, and then I bumped 169 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 2: him down to three behind Hampton because I'm like, Okay, 170 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: the size is a difference there. Hampton ran better than 171 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: I expected. 172 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: Hampton's athletics stuff, yeah, really strong too. 173 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: But Henderson is the best pass protecting block or back 174 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: in this draft. He could he could be ah in 175 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: every down back at two hundred and eight or two 176 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: hundred and nine pounds. 177 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: No, he's not little. 178 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: He's really Parker sized. 179 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think he even plays bigger in terms 180 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: of every down stuff. 181 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: So and and I really think, you know, they want 182 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: to run more of the outside zone stuff. The guys 183 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: that they're, the guys that they've drafted on the offensive 184 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: line tell us that they want they want to get 185 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: guys out on the edge, and it's what he does 186 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: is great. 187 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm just going to be frankly prejudiced against running backs. 188 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: You know, And I understand that, I understand that. 189 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: Their skills or their fit because I just know I will. 190 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: I will like what's there in the third and fourth round. Oh, 191 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: I'd like it, you know what I mean. 192 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna like the different the nose tackles too, 193 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: exactly exactly and if the nose tackle is going to 194 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: play forty percent of the time for me, but the 195 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: running back is going to play sixty, Yeah, I gotta 196 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: argue with the coaching staff too. The coaching staff is 197 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: going to go, yeah, we like we like Kenneth Grant, 198 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: but we like a bunch of these nose tackle prospects 199 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: as well, exactly. And this running back is going to 200 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: play a lot. 201 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: He is, He's gonna play a lot. 202 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: Maybe he returns kicks. There's there's a lot of different 203 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: things that I can do with this guy as opposed 204 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: to a nose tackle. 205 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: And something I've said over the last ten years too, 206 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: is I'm more apt to use a higher pick on 207 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: a back if I'm either have a rookie type quarterback 208 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: or there might be one on the. 209 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: Way, you know. 210 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: And I think that's a nice safety valve for a 211 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: rookie to have an outlet throw a guy that's good 212 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: in protection. I just feel happy handing him the ball 213 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: and taking a playoff and exhaling, you know, Like this 214 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: is getting to me a little bit. Let's just hand 215 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: it to our Pro Bowl back over and over. Okay, 216 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: now I got my wits about me again, you know. 217 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: But I just don't think there's many human beings like 218 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant work in the art. The that we've talked 219 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: to him up for two months. 220 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I just like to play again. I 221 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: have him at nine, so he's still in my top ten. 222 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: After Grant, you have armand Membo. 223 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: I went a little off the board there because I 224 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: love him. I think he's a tremendous player, and my 225 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: thoughts were, he's not gonna make it. It's not it 226 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: doesn't even matter, you know where I really put him, 227 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: but I would stick him at left guard. I don't 228 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: know what'snn happen to Isaac, but I'm just thinking you'd 229 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: have the youngest, maybe most talented, and cheapest O line. 230 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: In the league. You know, I mean that first round 231 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: picks everywhere at. 232 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: Second round picks, and let them grow up together and 233 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: pay them all when their times come, and just have 234 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: an awesome line. 235 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: So you have him at eight. You have Will Johnson, 236 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: the cornerback out of Michigan at nine, and Johnny Barron, 237 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: the cornerback out of Texas, and I struggled with. 238 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: Both of them. 239 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: I put Johnson over Baron just because I think he 240 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: I would rather an outside guy than an inside guy. 241 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: I understand that, but I don't love his tape from 242 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: this past year. I don't think either's going to be 243 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: there at twenty one. Again, I was a little prejudice 244 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: against running backs. I have Hampton right behind them. Yeah, 245 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: you know, where are you at? Like you're six through 246 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: Tennish six is No. 247 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: One, Hampton is seven, Traveon Henderson eight, Kenneth Grant nine. 248 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: At ten, I have Schdoor Sanders. 249 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: I did it. 250 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: I think at some point point if those other options 251 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: are no longer available. 252 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what this whole exercise about. If all 253 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: those are gone, what do you do? What do you do? Yeah? 254 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very unlikely that all nine of those 255 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: guys would be gone. 256 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Very unlikely. 257 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: But you might trade down, though, and all of a 258 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: sudden the wrong guys fall or right, you know, right, 259 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: And that's why you do this, That's why you do this. 260 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: I don't have them that much further on the list. 261 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm thirteen. 262 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: At eleven, you have Amar and Hampton. At twelve and 263 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: thirteen you have Jlen Milroe and then Shadoor Sanders. 264 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: I know, and originally, well, I've said on the air, 265 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: I would take Milroe over Sanders for the Steelers at 266 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: twenty or wherever the pick is, it's one hundred and 267 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: twenty one, two hundred and twenty one, if they're the 268 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: two choices, with the assumption that there's a veteran and 269 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: they're gonna sit all year. I mean part of the 270 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: beauty to Sanders to me is I think he's ready 271 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: to play soon, and I don't want him to play 272 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: soon here, you know, And I'm swinging for the fences. 273 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: I know that's going to be an unpopular take. How 274 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: could you possible Tate mill Row over Sanders? I just 275 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 3: want to swing for the fences at that position. I 276 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: think I've made that clear. 277 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: I have at eleven, twelve and thirteen Will Campbell, arm 278 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: On Membo, then at thirteen and fourteen Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland. 279 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Which I'm about to get to some of those guys too. 280 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of no man's land, like they have to 281 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: be on the list. Yeah, because there's a place you. 282 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: Would take them. But boy, it would be an unbelievably 283 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: unlikely scenario that they're there and your guys aren't. Right. 284 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: I could see one of those tight ends still being 285 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: there at twenty one. Right, But the reality is is 286 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: probably three or four of the guys that we have 287 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: ahead of them on our list are also there. 288 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 289 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have to respect the prospect, right, and 290 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: they are really good prospects, as. 291 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: Are Membo and you know some of these other guys. 292 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: At fourteen, you have Treyvon Henderson. 293 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have. 294 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: Hampton a smidge above them, just based on size. 295 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: Then you have Warren in Colston Loveland, which. 296 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: Won't be Steelers, but I wanted them on the list. 297 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 298 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: At fifteen, I have Matthew Golden after Warren in Loveland. 299 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 4: Okay, I really shied away from the wide receivers. 300 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: I kind of did too. I mean, they're way down 301 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: the list. I have Golden at fifteen, Teed McMillan at sixteen. 302 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: I have them both right next to each other, but 303 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: about five spots lower than that. 304 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 305 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: At seventeen, I then have Johnny Baron and Will Johnson 306 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: the cornerbacks. 307 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like I have them too too high, 308 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: but I don't think corner is not a need. 309 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: I mean I just look at both of those guys, 310 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: and they were both primarily zone players in college. Will 311 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Johnson didn't run I know, you know Baron. 312 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Like, I don't think corner was a huge deed. But 313 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: if it was Derek Stingley, I would have them way high, right, 314 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, they would be hiring the 315 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: board either. That's why Travis Hunter is it two? 316 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and the Steelers will primarily play him at cornerback 317 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: that's what he would do. 318 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and then run some routes or yeah. Right, so 319 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: you have after, you have after after Loveland. I put 320 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: Mason Graham on the list this time, not to make 321 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: our fans happy, but I figured he could do the 322 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: ogunjobie stuff. I mean, I respect his game enough, but 323 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: he's still he would be a part time player. He'd 324 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: be a part time player, right, so he's pretty low. 325 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: I mean he'd not make my list. Okay, I have him, 326 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: and I didn't do it on purpose. I just came 327 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: up with these are twenty one players that I would take. 328 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: I mean, he's my fourth d tackle, yeah, and I 329 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: still think the tackles. Indeed, he would be useful, but 330 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: he would not be a great fit and he would 331 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: not be an every down player. 332 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: People would be complaining three years from now, Oh he 333 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: doesn't fit the scheme. Maybe right, right, right, Yeah, it 334 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: would be Ziggy Wood all over again. Right, he'd be 335 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: out there on nickel and dime all the time, and 336 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: that's a lot. But that's not worth a fifth pick 337 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: in the draft. 338 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's sure. 339 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: At eighteen you have Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from 340 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Ohio State. Nineteen you have Will Campbell. 341 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: I have a lot of concerns about Campbell. I mean, 342 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: like I would have a really hard time taking him 343 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: at four from the Patriots. I'm not even sure he's 344 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: a great guard, but he's a good football player. 345 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: I think at twenty one he would be a steal, 346 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: but he. 347 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: Completes your line. Yeah, I mean you'd be thrilled to 348 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: have him there. Yeah. 349 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of this is just how can 350 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: I go get these players on the open market? And 351 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: Simmons is a left tackle and they're super valuable at 352 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: some point. 353 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: I would Yeah. 354 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: Then at twenty and twenty one you have Golden and 355 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: Ted McMillan. Yeah, after Baron and Johnson. For me, at 356 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen, I have Gray's Abel, the offensive lineman State. 357 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: I'd play mc guard and I considered him be quite 358 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: happy about it. At twenty I have Trey Amos. 359 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: I actually did thirty, not on purpose. I just wrote 360 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: down all the names that I considered, and he wasn't 361 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: far off. 362 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have him at twenty six. Yeah, Amos does 363 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: play a lot of man, I don't see any holes 364 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: in his game. I don't see any holes either, and 365 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: that's why I have him as close as I do 366 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: to Baron and Will Johnson. I could see them liking 367 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: him more, and they did bring him in for a visit. 368 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. 369 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a good player, and 370 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: they'd be a great number two opposite port or at 371 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: one A or whatever. 372 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: You know. I could see the argument for him at 373 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: twenty one. 374 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: I was torn between a bunch of the other prospects, 375 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: so I put Jackson dart On there they do. I 376 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: don't see any I mean, you're never gonna get to 377 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: twenty one, never gonna get to twenty one. If you 378 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: traded back to thirty one, now, maybe that's in play. 379 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 380 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: I mean even if he took someone at twenty one 381 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: and he's sitting there at forty, I mean, some of 382 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: these names would are going to last well into the 383 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: second round. Mine just missed were Alexander and Tylee because. 384 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: The position they play. 385 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: I love him a lot, but I don't think they're 386 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: premier prospect. Yeah, you know, you don't have They're better at. 387 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: What they do. 388 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: At twenty four you of Vegbuca. At twenty five you 389 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: had Luther Burden, twenty six, tray Amos as we said, 390 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: twenty seven, Chavon Ravel, twenty eight, Shamar Turner. 391 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: He didn't make my list at all. 392 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: I just I've really liked them more and more I've 393 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: studied him. We don't talk about him a lot. Think 394 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: he's a real good fit. 395 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: He's a nasty dude. 396 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: I mean he plays really, really hard. I think he'd 397 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: fit in real well here twenty nine to bring him up, yeah, 398 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: Alfred Collins and then thirty Caleb Johnson. I'm Mike and 399 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: Johnson more more too. As a I think he's faster 400 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: than people think. He's got a track background that I 401 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: didn't recognize. He ran high four fives, but he runs 402 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: away from people. 403 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's our twenty ones. We sit here a 404 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: day before the draft, our final answer. 405 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: Final answer, and it was a much harder list than 406 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: most years. You know, like, I don't really love tep McMillan. 407 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: I have him twenty one, you know, like, no, not 408 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: that the first twenty are going to fall an edge 409 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: rusher will get drafted. 410 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be guys drafted in the forties. 411 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: I might look and go, that guy's pretty much equal player. 412 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: I've said along like Tech McMillan. Is he really that 413 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: much different than Higgins from Iowa State? 414 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: Not that much different, or Higgins might have a better career. 415 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: He's more athletic. 416 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 4: He's more athletic, and he doesn't dog it a lot. 417 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: I mean equally there. I mean their size is almost equal. 418 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 419 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of difference there. 420 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: I don't see a massive difference between four and twenty four, 421 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: you know. I mean if if if Campbell and Mason 422 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: Graham go four and five, I don't think that. 423 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: I don't think Graham goes in the top five anymore. 424 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: I don't either. I mean, but they fall in the 425 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: top ten. I could see why. 426 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see why both those guys. My co 427 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: host said, well, it was interesting, he said, Mason Graham 428 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: and Campbell we're basically the same guy. They're both a 429 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: little undersized for a position. They're probably safe. You won't 430 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: hate taking them, but you're not going to be thrilled. 431 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: And they're not going to be a plug and play 432 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: left tackle or dominant three technique forever. You know, like 433 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: they're okay, but most years they go twelve if that. 434 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: If that, yeah, I mean, I don't know what they'd go. Yeah, 435 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: that's just what this draft is. But let's get to 436 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. 437 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 438 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: Matt now will be back with more right after this. 439 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: At least. 440 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 441 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 442 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 443 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: And we are back. 444 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt. 445 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: We're seeing a lot of people's final mock drafts coming 446 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: out here. 447 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 4: Big boards and all that. You know, you get your 448 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: final answers to the test, final answers to the test. 449 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: And well, Charles Davis has put his out on NFL 450 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: dot Com and I don't know what to believe. And 451 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm starting to get a better idea. I think some 452 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: things are starting to settle in. 453 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost past lying season when you start to 454 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: kind of get some truths down. 455 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Let's go through this and see as we go through 456 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: this if that would be our pick, or if we 457 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: think somebody else is going in that spot. Okay, So 458 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: one he is cam Ward, that's that's boring. Yeah, at 459 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: two he has Travis Hunter to the Browns. I think 460 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: the Browns might trade out of that spot. 461 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: Did you hear the Jerry Jones stuff? So you remember 462 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: yesterday was basically media day across the league. Well, unlike 463 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: most teams, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys also spoke. 464 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: Owner slash GM slash Grand Pooba and. 465 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: No one's gonna tell him no, right, he can do 466 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: whatever the heck he wants. And he was he wasn't 467 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: even asked, but he said, we're working on two substantial 468 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: trades right now, like unprovoked, and now all the speculation 469 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: is they're trying to get to two to get the 470 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: UN's buddy Hunter. That's probably all smoke. 471 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 4: I thought. 472 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: He said current players. 473 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: That was another thing that maybe they're after Tyreek Hill 474 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: or you know what I mean, Like that's but everyone's 475 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 3: what's Jerry mean? Who are they trading for you know, 476 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 3: it's weird you'd say you're in the middle of making trades. 477 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: If you read, if you believe everything you read out there, 478 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: there's about ten teams in this draft looking to move up. Now, 479 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: if you're looking to move up, you're looking to move 480 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: up for a certain player. What you're not going to 481 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: do at this point right until you know how that 482 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: top goes. 483 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: But you think the Browns have a chance to straight 484 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: out of there. 485 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: I think they do. 486 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: I think it would be wise. I would get as 487 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: many picks as possible, and maybe it takes Sanders. 488 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: If we've talked a lot about Hunter, and in theory, 489 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: Hunter sounds great. We're going to get a great wide 490 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: receiver and a great cornerback. 491 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: Yep. 492 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: But we've talked about the issues that that that runs 493 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: you into. 494 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: And if you're said that on the air today too, if. 495 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: You're taking him and saying, Okay, we're gonna play him, 496 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: we're gonna play for the Browns. 497 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: He'd be a wide receiver, right. 498 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: If we're going to take him and play him exclusively 499 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: at wide receiver and then mix in some cornerback stuff, 500 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: is he going to be happy that we're doing it enough? 501 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: Or is he going to push to play full time 502 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: both ways and we don't have a cornerback need. 503 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my exact words on the air today, 504 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 3: where Hunter is my number one player in this draft, 505 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 3: he was my number one guy in our twenty one 506 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But if I get a boatload to 507 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: get out of two and I need all kinds of. 508 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: Line, I haven't had, I have quarterback yet, I haven't 509 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: had a Day two pick. I haven't had a Day 510 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: one pick in a couple of years, and I haven't 511 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: a Round two, Day two pick in like three years, 512 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: like an early Day two pick exactly. I can use 513 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: more of those. 514 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: As many as I can get, because I would love 515 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: to add Hunter to a team that has a pretty 516 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: good line and at least a somewhat of a quarterback, 517 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: like let's walk before. 518 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: We can run. If you're the Browns, you know, And. 519 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Browns, it would just be more of 520 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: what they have. Okay, we got these stars and nothing 521 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: in between. 522 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: We need some meat potatoes and a long term quarterback. 523 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: And it's a problem everyone would love to have. But 524 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: then I also get out from the problem of how 525 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: do I manage my time with this guy and get him. 526 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: On the field too. Let's someone else deal with it 527 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: and give me a bunch of first round picks. 528 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: At three, the Giants take Abdul Carter. 529 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: I think those three are almost setting. 530 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: Ideally, they would be a good fit for Travis Hunter. 531 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: They would probably much prefer Hunt, I would think. 532 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: So, yeah, uh, would you offer something smaller to the 533 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: Browns just to swap because Carter would be found for 534 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: the Browns too. Yeah, Carter would make Carter makes more 535 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 2: sense for the Browns given what they're what they have 536 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: team wise, I'd think about it. 537 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: I think Hunter's a better problem is. 538 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: Is they draft too close together the who way through 539 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: the draft, right next to each other, the Whoy three. 540 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 3: You just want to both need a quarterback, and they're 541 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: both going to be kind of paddling in the same waters, 542 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: you know. 543 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Patriots at four take Will Campbell. 544 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: I really dislike it, but I understand it. 545 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: So I think they're a trade back. 546 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: I know who wants to come up. 547 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you a couple of teams here. I 548 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: think the Raiders would like to get the four, okay, 549 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: and take Ashton Genty. 550 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: Okay, So I wanted to go down this road because 551 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: not that I'm smarter or anything, but I was. I 552 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: put genty in my market five two months ago, and 553 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: I had never seen it anywhere else. It's not like, oh, 554 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: Williams and so it's more so it's been in my 555 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: mind for a while. But I was on a Dynasty 556 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 3: podcast today and my co host said, isn't it odd 557 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: that genty all of a sudden's being linked to the Jags? 558 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: Who could be leaking that? 559 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: And I immediately thought the Patriots are the Jags, because 560 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: I really think sitting at four and five is terrible. 561 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: And if you think gent might go five, I want 562 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: someone to get to four. I mean, if the Patriots 563 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: leaked the genty stuff, great because I can take Campbell 564 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: at eight, or I mean maybe I can get the 565 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: Bears that come to four. 566 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: Maybe I get the Bears that come to five, or 567 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: Dallas genty. 568 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: They're in the same boat. They need they need more 569 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: of everything. 570 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so everyone's mocking Campbell to four, Graham to five, 571 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: which I'm not believing as much anymore. And my co 572 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: hosts like, yeah, it's like a leadoff double, that's fine. 573 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's like getting hit by a pitch. 574 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: It's not fun walking down to first. But yeah, you're 575 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: on first with no out, but your ears are ringing 576 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: or your ankle hurts or something. Because they're not premier 577 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: prospect for the fourth and fifth pick in the drug. 578 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: That's not what you want to get. 579 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: No h. 580 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: At five, he has astrion Gent to the Jaguars. 581 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: Which I do think is potentially real. I mean it 582 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: comes from the box. Look what he got out of 583 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: Irving last year. They want to run the football job. 584 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: Number one when he was hired is get Lawrence right. 585 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: Genty would help. 586 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 587 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: At six, he then has Jaylen Walker to the Raiders. 588 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: I could see that. So one thing I wanted to 589 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: say is I just mentioned it before. I really like Membo. 590 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: If I was four, I would take Membo. If I 591 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: was five, I would take Membo if I was six. 592 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: I can't take Membo over Campbell just because he's He's 593 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: played right tackle and I'm not taking the right tackle 594 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: in the in the I can't take a right tackle 595 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: only unless he looks like. 596 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's similar to Tristan Wirfs. And 597 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: then just because I have Morgan Moses, he's. 598 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: All left tack. 599 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, Membo can't. I mean, he's never done it. 600 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: I didn't think Latham would switch the left either. I 601 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: didn't think at least the lengths to do it right, Like, 602 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the lengths to go to left tackle 603 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: and be I think he's so much better of a 604 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: prospect than Campbell. So I would take Membo. 605 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 3: If I was at four, five, six or seven the Jets, 606 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: mostly because it's no man's land. I mean, I think 607 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: he's going to be a really good offensive tackle. 608 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: At seventy Has the Jets taking Tyler Warren? 609 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: Fine, I understand it. It sounds like it's down to Membo 610 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: or Warren. Everyone's talking about the Raiders or down the 611 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: gentier Membo. Here's my issue with Warren. I'm not saying 612 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: he's a bad player, but they manufactured so many touches 613 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 3: for him, whether it's a direct snap or a handoff, 614 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: or route concepts or get the ball in his hands, 615 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: and it made them win football games. 616 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 4: Are the Jets gonna or whoever going to restructure their 617 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: offense around this guy? They might. 618 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: The Raiders kind of did it with Brock Bauers. 619 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: I say, Bowers, I think you get fource feet a 620 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: tight end. 621 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: If Warren goes at seven or even in the top ten, 622 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: he should buy brock Bauers a Rolex and because I 623 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: don't think he's as good a prospect, but the drafts. 624 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: Line is good either, you know. And yeah, not many 625 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: top ten tight ends have made it. At eight, then 626 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 2: he has a Carolina Panthers taking Mason Graham. That's nice, 627 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: that makes that makes sense for them. 628 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're if you're like eight through twelve, then 629 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 3: you get Graham. 630 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: Cool. 631 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could put him next to Derek Brown. Derek 632 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: Brown is going to be your massive They're so different, right, yeah, great, Yeah, fantastic. 633 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: The Saints then at nine take arm On Membo. 634 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 4: Okay, I get it. 635 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: At ten, the Bears take Mikel Williams. 636 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna go high. I think he's going 637 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: top ten. 638 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 639 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: At eleven, the forty nine Ers take Shamar Stewart. 640 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: I can see that too. They're looking for traits. They 641 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: want big people. They're a pure four man front. They 642 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: don't want Walker yea, you know, they don't want to 643 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: two and forty pound guy. 644 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: At twelve, the Cowboys take Tetoroa McMillan. 645 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: That's becoming a little Chalky too. I would take Golden there, 646 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: but I could understand both cases. 647 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: At thirteen, Will Johnson goes to Miami. 648 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with Will Johnson. I 649 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 4: don't know what to do with Miami. 650 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: Well, Miami should know a lot about him. 651 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 4: What's their connection? The owner is, oh, Michigan, huge doner. Yeah, yeah, 652 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: that makes sense. 653 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: At fourteen the Colts, this makes way more sense. Take 654 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: Nick Amuari, now you're talking. 655 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. 656 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: Everybody and everybody in the world mocks them a tight end, 657 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: and I think it's. 658 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: Just because Walkers want to get them in the top 659 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever. I don't know that these tight ends 660 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: are well. I won't say that because I was to 661 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: say they aren't worth the high picks. I like both 662 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: players a lot, and there isn't a lot else to 663 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: pick from him, but the Colts should not go tight end. 664 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: At fifteen, he has the Falcons taking Derek Harmon. 665 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: Wow, there's more buzz about him and Nolan going pre 666 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: twenty one. 667 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: Nolan is still there. At sixteen, the Cardinals take Jihad Campbell, 668 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: linebacker from Alabama. 669 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: He's a perfect example of someone that didn't sniff our 670 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: top twenty one that has a very good chance to 671 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: be off the board. 672 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he will go somewhere in that range. At seventeen, 673 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean, worry didn't make my top twenty many either. Seventeen, 674 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: the Bengals take Malachi Starks, the safety out of Georgia. 675 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: I'd love two safeties to fall, yeah, and Jamar Stewart, 676 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: you know. 677 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would make a lot of sense for the 678 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: bat Like they've been searching for that since they let 679 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: Jesse Bates walk out the door. 680 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 681 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they wouldn't make that pick, but I 682 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: bet there's no chance Watts gets past their second round. 683 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: They just hired Notre Dame defensive coordinator. He's smartest could 684 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: be Jesse Bates, you know, Like, I think they'll take 685 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: a safety high. 686 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Seahawks take jode A Barron. 687 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: Okay, anyone could take him, and I wouldn't bad n 688 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: eye not an I Yeah. 689 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: At nineteen, Tampa Bay takes Donovan Azareku the address pretty early. 690 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: But I get it, I wouldn't. 691 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: He's a high character, right, No, there are no I 692 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: love Mike Green. I think Mike Green is a better 693 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: on the field player. Yeah, but there's some off the field, 694 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: stuff that I'd really have to know a lot about. 695 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm a Mike Green fan. On the field played at Marshall. 696 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: He's got short arms, and there is stuff off the field. 697 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: You know. 698 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: He got kicked out of Virginia for an alleged sexual 699 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: assault and then had another sexual assault charge filed against him, 700 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: right right. There are no convictions on any of this stuff, 701 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: but it's there. 702 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: Oh he went to the podium and brought it up, 703 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, or ezri. 704 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: Quez recus like right, a choir boy. 705 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: Andy's long and he's productive and right. 706 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: At twenty the Denver Broncos take Omarion Hampton. 707 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: I could absolutely see that. Or Henderson, I could see 708 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: him taking them back there. 709 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 710 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: Twenty one, the Pittsburgh Steelers then take Kenneth Grant. Okay, 711 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: in this scenario, I could understand Grant or Henderson. 712 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: For me, I would take it. 713 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: Nolan, Well, Nolan the Yeah, I forgot Nolan was there, 714 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: So Nolan would be my highest rated guy that on 715 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: my board. 716 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, now I get it. I mean, you'd love though 717 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: all three of those options were sitting there. 718 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: Twenty two, the Chargers then take Colston Loveland, the tight 719 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 2: end for Michigan. 720 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: They would love that. That still adds m Yeah. Yeah. 721 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: Green Bay at twenty three takes Walter Nolan. 722 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: Okay, there's so many teams that could take him. I 723 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: don't know who will, but I could see the Niners 724 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: doing it. 725 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: At eleven, at twenty four of the Vikings take Gray's Abel, 726 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: the offensive lineman from North Dakota State. 727 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: I think he's going pretty high. 728 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Texans take Matthew Golden. 729 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: It's just almost as big as need as o. 730 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: Linon Banks is still there, though. 731 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: There's a lot of buzz that he's gonna go hide 732 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: just because he's safe, and I think the world's come 733 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: around that he's a left tackle. 734 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 735 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Rams take of Mecca Agbuka. 736 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I guess Adams is older. 737 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: Twenty seven, the Ravens take Josh Simmons. 738 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: Wow, they don't need a higher left tackle. But yeah, 739 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: too good to pass up, I guess. 740 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the Lions take Tyler Booker. 741 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: I like that. 742 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: At twenty nine, Kelvin Banks goes to the Commanders. See, 743 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't see all these offensive tackles falling this far. 744 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: It's straight for Tunsel too. Yeah. I think the o 745 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: Linemen are going to go higher. I bet Banks has gone. 746 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: When the Steelers pick at thirty, the Bills take Maxwell Hairston, 747 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: the Kentucky quarterback. 748 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 4: Okay, they prefer bigger guys. 749 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: But Kansas City takes Mike Green. He had drusher out 750 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: of Marshall. 751 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 4: That could work out real well. 752 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: They don't care about right, they don't care, and he 753 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: may have a dozen sacks for him. And at thirty two, 754 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles take Mason Taylor, tight end out of Valashua. 755 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: I guess they said that three weeks ago. 756 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I could see him going to Kansas City too. Yeah. 757 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: I think on those two picks is a. 758 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: Possibility for sure, especially if Goddri gets traded. Yeah, which 759 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: sounds like it's possible. 760 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: So that is Charles Davis's latest mock draft, his final 761 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: mock draft on NFL dot Com. We're gonna get to 762 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: another break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. This 763 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: is the drive on the Steelers Audio network. Matt, Now, 764 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: I'll be back with more right after this least. 765 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 766 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven, Home of the Black and 767 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 768 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the 769 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt we do have some league news 770 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: happening right now. 771 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 4: Oh really, yes we do. 772 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five Pro Football Hall of Fame Game will 773 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 2: be played between the Los Angeles Chargers and the Detroit Lions. 774 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 4: Okay, are there Chargers or Lions going in this year? 775 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 4: There usually is. I don't think there's a Lion. Gates 776 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: is in. Yeah, okay, Lions, I don't know. 777 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: I can't think of any Lions they're going. It's it's 778 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: probably been a while since the Lions have played in 779 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: that game. It's an easy drive. They do like to 780 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: do that too, Like, yeah, we can get a bunch 781 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: of the Lions fans are all fired up about their team. 782 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: They'll actually drive from Detroit down. 783 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 4: That is pretty close. Yeah, it was two three hours. 784 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: And they'll fill up that stadium along with the Chargers 785 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: fans who. 786 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: Have a guy going in, have a guy going in. 787 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Okay, that adds up then, yeah. 788 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Gates is actually kind of a local guy 789 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: because he played. 790 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: True Kent State. Yeah too, so so maybe a weekend. 791 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's why they chose the Chargers. There 792 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: were some other players. 793 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that has sense. 794 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: I was in here wondering originally and I didn't think 795 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: of Gates. But yeah, that that absolutely makes sense. It's 796 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: kind of a paying the butt for teams. But you 797 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: also get to the open camping week earlier. You get 798 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: one more sixty minutes extravaganza for your rookies. 799 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 2: You know, So the game is set to be played 800 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: July thirty first. Typically, just doing this out of my 801 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: memory here, they'll good, as you mentioned, to camp earlier 802 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: than everybody else. But typically we're in camp for about 803 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: four or five days. Oh, you're trying to do the 804 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: math back, Like everybody asked me, hey when Steeler training camp? Well, 805 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: first clue has been dropped. The first clue has been dropped. Yes, 806 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: I probably guess that the Steelers opening of training camp 807 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: will happen four or five days before July thirty first. 808 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that makes sense then, right, so their camp 809 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: will be a week before that. Yeah, okay, so somewhere 810 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: around twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty sixth, somewhere in there, 811 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: maybe even the twenty seventh. 812 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 4: All right, cool. So there you go. Make your plans. 813 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 4: Make your plans now, yep. Start getting hotels booked. 814 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: And somebody's going to book a hotel for like the 815 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 2: twenty fourth, and they're going to go to camp on 816 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: the twenty seventh, and they're going to be cursing us. 817 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm stuck in Latrobe for four days and there's no 818 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: Steeler training camp or Mattondale. 819 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 4: What have you done? Go to the golf course, go 820 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 4: to Sharkys warm up. 821 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: Actually, the way the the way the rules are set 822 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: up now to CBA. The first week of training camp, 823 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: it's a little it's kind of a carryover of OTAs 824 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: in mini camp. Yeah, there's no they're not in pads. 825 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: So they actually make your plans to come to training 826 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: camp after July thirty first, I say June first, August first, 827 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, going back somewhere in that reason. 828 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: In fact, July, the Hall of Fame game earned Shriman 829 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: is August third, which I believe should be like a 830 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: Sunday something like that. The game's Thursday night. Okay, yeah, 831 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: so that Saturday or Sunday is probably the Steelers first 832 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: day in impats. 833 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 4: That would make sense. So maybe that's fine for that. 834 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 4: That's what you're there. 835 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: You go, that's what you want to do. 836 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: The NFL is so great at pumping up all their events, 837 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: but like the Hall of Fame game, everyone gets so 838 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: excited about that's fun for about fifteen minutes if that. 839 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, one fun for Sean, sweeze them. I can tell 840 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 4: you that. 841 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 3: Training camp is awesome, but the first practice or two 842 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 3: is not real exciting. 843 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes a while. 844 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: The players aren't really excited to jam themselves into those little, 845 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: tiny locker rooms. I don't know if they've refurbished those things, 846 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: but the last time I was there, they can't. You're 847 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: talking about the locker room was about as big as 848 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: this room. Yeah right, small, small, and the rosters gianted. Now, 849 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 2: Tom Benson has spent a bunch of money to refurbish 850 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: that stadium, the owner of the oh, the Saints, the 851 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: former owner of the Saints. I think he's gone now, 852 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, I think he dropped a couple million dollars 853 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: into No, I didn't know, upgrading that stadium. Still, that's 854 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: why it's Tom Benson Stadium though. 855 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 4: Good good for him. 856 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. Excuse me, that's gonna do 857 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: it for our number one here on the drive. We'll 858 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: be back with our number two and the Dean of 859 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 2: Doom nice, the Lord of living in his years, Bob 860 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: Labriola will join us next right after this