WEBVTT - Mile High Spirits 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.280 Boom. He thought more minutes a week was enough. I 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.920 think again. He's the last remnants of the old republic, 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.400 a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.360 ghetto gutter the same as the rich pill poppers in 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.600 the penthouse. The clearing House of Hot takes break free 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.680 for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.040 right now. It's never a dull moment on the Fifth 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.800 Hour with Ben Maller. But Ben is not in the 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.120 house today. I will be your solo host, David Gascon. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.520 So that's right. If you did tune in for Big 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.320 Ben Mallory, he will be here shortly, but not right now, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.440 in place of him. As a former offensive lignment of 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.080 the National Football he actually played ball at Notre Dame 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.280 that got his way to the Denver Broncos, played on 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.320 the great Super Bowl fifty championship team that one of 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.200 the best defenses in all the land. Ryan Harrison were 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.680 in the house. What's up, man? How you doing? David 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.280 good to join you, my friend. Yeah, it's good to 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.480 have you in here. There's a lot of chatter obviously 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.600 with the NFL off season's It's never a dull moment, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.039 and we're gonna get to some of your background in 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.560 a few moments, but I have to jump into this 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.000 because you're knee deep in all of it. With the 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.800 National Football League. What's the sentiment out there right now 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.440 with with training camps right around the corner. A lot 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.160 of eyeballs on Drew Lock. But of course there's still 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:29.320 those rumblings about one Deshaun Watson in Houston, well DeShawn Watson, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.960 but also Aaron Rodgers. I mean, half of this town 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.160 still believes Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.120 and I'm kind of with them. I mean, I don't 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.880 know how the Packers saga ends, um, with the way 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.480 that everyone's behaved. Now, Aaron's gonna have to fork up 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.520 thirty million if he doesn't play this year, which at 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.560 the end of the day, David, I don't know. I 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.120 don't know what you can do to get me thirty 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.720 million dollars. Manage you, right, So I think eventually something 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.200 will come of it. But yeah, Drew Lock just did 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:00.800 not show progression last season, especially um and in a 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.760 big game for his career, the second game against the 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.880 Chiefs last year, through two interceptions that cost him the game, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.440 and those are the kinds of mistakes that um that 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.680 coaches and fans are tired of seeing. And there's already 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.720 been some of the same. Yeah, it's it's frustrating to 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.320 look at when you have a quarterback in that kind 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.799 of situation. It's not like you're in a spot where 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.200 you have minimal talent around you. This isn't Sam Donald 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.280 in New York with the Jets. This is a guy 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.360 with potential Pro bowlers on the outside and a pretty 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.280 darn good defense, in particular at home. So when you 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.920 look at the situation in Denver right now, Ryan, and 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.440 you're calling the shots there, I mean, obviously you love 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.520 to have a guy like Aaron Rodgers. But if this 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.560 all plays out, and let's just say for argument's sake, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.680 nothing serious happens to Deshaun Watson, would you more look 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.240 closer towards Aaron Rodgers or would you look immediate and 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.280 down the road with a guy like Deshaun Watson. What 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:01.160 would you rather have? Well, the Shawn Watson's fascinating from 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:06.359 a longevity perspective, right even with Aaron Rodgers, you're thinking, listen, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.240 Tom Brady at forty three says hello, but you're thinking 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.840 maybe two to three more years for Aaron Rodgers, But 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.919 with Deshaun Watson, you've got ten to fifteen years, right, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.320 And that's a different element if you're a team looking 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.640 at it. I don't believe anybody's gonna touch DeShawn Watson 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.120 with what's currently going on. Um and And but at 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.799 the same time, you still have an opportunity next year 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.400 for both quarterbacks. I mean, after this season, the guaranteed 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.360 money for Aaron Rodgers goes away. Um and and next 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.880 year you'll still have an opportunity to play for Deshaun Watson, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.840 who doesn't want to be a part of the Texans 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.200 this year or next. So, um, those whether you could 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.160 take your shot now is one question depends on you know, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.120 how do you and your fan base field. I don't 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.120 think any fan base is willing to accept the player 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.240 who has the kind of allegations that the shan has 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.400 at this time. Um and Aaron Rodgers, how does that end? 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.240 And and so in that case, Deshaun has far more 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.640 upside um. But Aaron Rodgers is the man right now 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.680 who hurt your locker room more. You know, just just 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.920 from the stories that I've heard, Uh, you know, uh, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.400 it's Aaron Rodgers has been operating on a different level 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.480 than his teammates for a long time. And I understand 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.640 two as a champion myself. When when you are a champion, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.159 you have a different dedication to how you know, to 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.000 the details, and you have a zero patience for people 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.000 who don't pay attention to those details. So I understand 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.920 how those things could be mistrewed. But you know, it's 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.279 always tough to bring an older guy into a locker room. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.200 I mean, hey, I was a league dad, and when 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.400 you come into the NFL, you have guys who who say, hey, 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.120 you know, we uh, you know, we want to go 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.240 spend Friday night, Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night out. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.000 And as a dad, you're in the NFL saying, well, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.039 hey man, I want to make sure that you know, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.600 I get nine hours of sleep and my latte is 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.599 ready in the morning. You know, it's a different life. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.279 So it's always tough to bring older players into a 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.640 locker room and professional sports well, but being a former 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.440 offensive lineman, if you were in that situation with a 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.680 signal color of either Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson's talents, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.680 who would you be more inclined to block harder for 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.320 I'm not to say that you're gonna be bailing on 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.560 a play, but I would imagine that there's an extra 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.160 sense of urgency when you're blocking for Peyton Manning as 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.200 opposed to somebody else. Well, the urgency comes from the 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.520 the opportunity, right, It doesn't matter, um what what what 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.360 the quarterbacks doing do? You have an opportunity to win 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.840 a championship. And that's what made us so successful Super 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.600 fifties season. Who was the best team that I've ever 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.960 been a part of. We had guys who were ready 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.400 to play, who showing guys who were goofballs, who were 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.960 showing up at six five in the morning, you know. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.919 And so at that point, you know, Peyton created a 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.880 lot of urgency at the line of scrimmage with his 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.360 dummy calls and his omas um. But you want to win, 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.159 and if you're with the team that wants to win, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.000 that urgency comes out no matter who the quarterback is. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.440 So going to that team than ryany He mentions the 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.839 greatest team were played on. Leading up to that season, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.080 was there any thought that you guys can do what 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.200 you did? There was a hud percent belief that we 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.680 would do what we did. You know, Uh, Shannons Sharpe 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.200 came and spoke to us to start the to start 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.160 the season during training camp and he said, Hey, if 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.279 you're not here to win a championship, get the brief 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.799 out of here. And that was pretty much the tone 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.279 that we had from from day two of being together 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.440 in training camp. We knew it was possible. We knew 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.240 that this was probably Peyton's last year. Um, and a 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.320 lot of the team, you know, I I had come 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.440 from the Chiefs to come come back to Broncos. The Broncos, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.320 A lot of the team had lost in Super Bowl 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.640 forty eight, which saved a lot of money, right, because 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.159 a lot of guys are like, hey, don't buy everybody 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.080 hotel room because if you lose, you're gonna be looking 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.240 at those people saying I got ten grand hotel rooms 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.680 sitting here looking at me at the face. Right. So, Um, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.279 you had a lot of benefit and experience and a 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.160 ton of willingness. And that's what made us so successful. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.200 Was that More on the offense, though, was it? The 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.520 defense is and the guys on the defensive side brought 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.520 the wood every single week. So when you have a 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.600 guy like DeMarcus where that puts a little bit more 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.520 pressure on other guys around him to actually perform up 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.800 to his level. Well, DeMarcus Ware also showed us the 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.040 way right how to behave I still drink plant based 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:21.760 protein shakes because De Marcus Ware told me to, so, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.240 you know. And he would have dinners and events and 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.239 things that gave guys opportunities to get out of the house, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.120 but also kept you in the nucleus and in the 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.720 in the world of hey, let's be successful, let's not 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.360 be stupid. All right, let's have some fun, but you're 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.560 asked better be in practice tomorrow morning. And having a 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.920 leader like DeMarcus Ware and the influence he had on 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.080 von Miller and then von Miller's performance that entire season, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.520 not just that year. You know, Malik Jackson, Danny Trevathan, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.760 Chris Harris, ju and you'r a keep to leave and 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.000 we had some real players, real players, and it was 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.160 a big difference. No flies on the best secondary ever 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:02.400 played for Oh, no question, no question at all. It's uh, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.320 it's interesting just the way that the game has changed 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.240 so much, not only from the last five to ten years, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.880 but from the last twenty or twenty five years. Do 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.440 you think we'll ever get that kind of similarity of 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.800 what we had. I mean, you could go back to 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:20.720 the earlier Bronco Championship teams. Those are play action, run 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.280 balanced teams. Do you think the game will ever morph 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.280 into something like that again, or do you feel like 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.040 it is going to be three and four and five 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.320 wide personnel with a lot of this read option stuff. Well, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.160 you know, it's interesting. Not everybody can do with Patrick 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.960 Mahomes is doing. Kansas City Chiefs and I covered their 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.360 their Sunday night game against the Broncos, and I talked 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.360 to some of my former coach and I said, hey, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.760 you guys are running two plays at the same time, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.320 and they kind of laughed and they were like, well, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.360 we haven't been called on it yet. You know, so 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.280 as much as everybody thinks they can do the run 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.640 pass option, not a lot of teams are gonna have 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.439 a called run play and a quarterback where you give 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.240 the green light to and say, hey, if you see 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.679 a matchup you like, let that ball rip. You know, 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.000 by the way, that quarterback has to get it down 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.720 field before that lineman gets on his third step. So 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.080 you're always gonna have play action pass. A lot of 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.520 football is you know, human nature when you when you 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.640 show a linebacker football and you give the right shoulder 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.640 read as a quarterback, and that running back comes over 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.400 and quickly the offensive lineman shows to the backer. He 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.520 has to think run and that's how you create plays. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.800 So we're always gonna see an evolution and evan flow. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.880 But the play action passed, the downhill run, the third 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.640 and one, the fourth thing goal, those are gonna be 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.040 staples of every championship team for now and forever. What's 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.920 the longevity look like for a guy like Lamar Jackson. Well, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.240 Lamar Jackson has the decision to make. He has to 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.640 decide whether he's gonna be the best player he can 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.360 be or if he's gonna spend his time trying to 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.560 be a player that he's not. And and I've talked 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.560 to player, I've talked to players and coaches who are 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.839 on on the Ravens and one of the things that 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.480 last year and they're stretched. Uh. You know when the 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.600 coaches told me Lamar wanted Lamar Will wanted to be 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.480 a passer. He just wanted to be a passer, and 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.040 we lost games because of that, and if you look 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.520 at roster's not really build for it. And so Lamar 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.960 Jackson has to make that decision and say, hey, I 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.000 am Lamar Jackson. I can be a great passer, but 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.000 I'm not gonna be a Peyton Manning. I'm not gonna 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.320 be a Tom Brady. Same way Tom Brady is not 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.679 trying to be Lamar Jackson, right, And so if he 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:27.160 can just work within his skill set and maximize his potential, 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.480 the nuances on play action passes when he decides to run, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.800 getting out of bounds, I mean, these are things that 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.000 are really going to allow him to win a championship 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.360 if he can commit to being different, and that's what 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.360 every champion is. Be sure to catch live editions of 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.400 The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.120 pm Pacific. Be sure to catch live editions of The 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.319 Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.280 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.600 If you had a quarterback for the next five years, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.360 would you rather have Russell Wilson or Justin Herbert? Russell Wilson, Uh, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.720 Justin Herbert's got an unbelievable, arm I mean, where sweatpants 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.960 when he throws the deep ball. It's unbelievable. But Russell 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.920 Wilson has won, and so he knows that, you know, 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:16.920 a seemingly insignificant game in week seven is the difference 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.319 between home field advantage and not. Right. He also knows 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.680 what matters and what doesn't matter when you're going to 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.640 the Super Bowl. I mean, David, I had over two 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.080 ticket requests the week that we the week before we 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.559 went left for the Super Bowl. None of those people 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.760 were my friends, right, And so you have to do 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.600 a lot of success, as you know, is understanding, recognizing distractions, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.360 and having total belief in yourself. And that's something that 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.200 Russell Wilson has perfected over his career. Can you take 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.160 me through that then? To Ryan? I mean, because you 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.440 played ball at the collegiate level in Notre Dame and 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.560 then you go to Denver and you bounce around the league. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.840 What has that been like for you when when you 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.079 went from high school to college and started receiving a 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.080 ton of accolades and then you have the spotlight on 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.520 you and then you get to the show, you get 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.640 to the National Football League, how did you actually process that, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.319 and did you have anyone help you along the way, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.120 like hold your hand and say, hey, Ryan, this is 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.719 how you act like a professional? Eat, drink, sleep, the 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.599 whole smash. Well, a lot of it started with I 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.840 never played football for you, right. I played football because 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.160 it gave me an opportunity to maximize my skill set. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.520 I mean, David, I've been taking people's lunch money since 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.280 high school. Has come faster than that, you know what 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.880 I'm saying, Like, let's go um. And so the big 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.720 thing for me is I never did it for anybody else, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.960 and it never did it for external validation. But to 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.600 your point, there were dozens of veterans who who showed 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.920 me the ropes. You know. Um, I think about Wade Smith. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.400 When I went to the Texas, they used to call 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.240 me the wandering because I didn't know where I was going, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.280 and he literally showed me with the bathroom of the 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.720 meetings rooms where you know, you need people like that. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.280 I also had a mental performance coach all ten years 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.920 I was in the NFL, and to really understand, um, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.960 the process behind success. You know, you make the game 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.480 winning catch, the game winning block, the game winning kick 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.680 the same way you make any block, kick or pass 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.240 or cats right, if you're catching the ball, you look 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.800 the ball into your hands and you squeeze it when 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.600 it hits your fingers. I mean, when you focus on 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.760 the process, you reduce anxiety over So I add people 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.240 that would talk to me in that athletic realm, people 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.839 that you know taught me that not every coach is 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.280 a good coach. And the year we won Super A fifty, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.800 we had a mental performance coach on on our staff 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.000 that really helped, you know, helped us identify external versus 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.679 internal validation. Am I playing football to make David happy? 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.200 Am I playing football because I want to have fun? 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.560 To rip someone's face off? Because now it really doesn't 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.280 matter whether David wants tickets or if David wants to 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.880 come to the after party. Those are things that will 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.719 figure themselves out. That's not why I'm here. And that's 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.679 a very different player to play against. And so I 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.720 absolutely needed great coaches that the great coaches that I 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.800 did have, the veterans I have, And I also needed 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.920 to make sure that I remembered why I love the 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.480 football and had nothing to do with other people's opinions. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.760 On that note, because you had that kind of help 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.720 and you had that kind of support, did other players 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.839 seek you out for that kind of inspiration, that kind 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.319 of comfort, and that kind of I guess advice along 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.480 the way, of course, you know. I mean one of 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.480 the things you know that I wrote about in my 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.440 in my book Mindset for Mastery, is that when you 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.320 choose your mindset, when you decide that you're there for 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.080 yourself and not other people, you're going to scare the 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.200 crap out of people. Right, There's a lot of players 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.440 in the NFL are getting paid to lose. They didn't 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.400 win a championship, they didn't go to the playoffs, and 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.360 they still got paid. What do you do? And so 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.000 you start to notice the people who don't get affected. Hey, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.400 if a coach is ripping my ass, Hey if I 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.560 did something wrong, great, But I'm not always I'm not 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.560 gonna take everything that coach is saying as as improvement. Right, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.440 There's gonna be some personal attacks. There might be some 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.800 some attacks on you know, your physical capabilities. That has 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.280 nothing to do with the fact that I'm gonna go 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.840 out here the next play correct my mistake and help 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.360 us win a game. And when you start being around 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:07.440 people who are not thrown off by someone's anger or 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.200 by someone's angs. Do you gravitate towards those people. You 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:14.600 gravitate towards people who move when things go wrong. And so, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.760 whether it was in the game that we were losing, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.920 after a loss, making sure you still are having fun 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.880 and appreciating the ride, I was very lucky to be 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.320 a leader in the in the last three offensive line 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.440 rooms that I was in. It's the old thing, right, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.120 showing me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser, 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.600 exactly right, you know. But but you also have to 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.600 you also have to understand. When I was at the 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.840 Steelers that we won the Super Bowl, I believe we 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.520 lost four straight games at one point, and everybody's head 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.800 was down, like, hey, listen, you're gonna lose some games. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.760 That cannot stop you from believing that you're gonna win 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.760 a championship. And you gotta have fun, you gotta smile, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.640 you gotta stay loose and UH and those things make 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.000 a difference. You. You brought the book, and I want 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.560 to talk about that at at some decent length real quick. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.760 What inspired you to you to actually write it? Mindset 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.960 for Mastery UH to available on Amazon and you know, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.680 when I look at my tenure NFL career, the difference 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.280 between people who are successful and who are not are 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.760 people who choose their mindset. And when you win the 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.320 Super Bowl, everything you believe about yourself comes true for 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.760 other people, but you have to believe that first. So 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.760 from getting knocked out of my cleats in college to 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.720 you know, learning the lessons that I learned in the NFL, 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.720 I wanted to share that with people because, David, we 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.440 talk about failure less than we talk about sex, and 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.240 I want to tell you the failure is the most 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.560 common thread to every success story. Here's how I failed, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.840 Here's how I built my way out of it. Each 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.400 of us choose our mindset every day, choose yours with 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.040 the words I am, I can, I will. When you've 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.200 had those situations of doubt, what do you do? I 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.640 mean best practices? Because the rounity is we've you know, 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.160 in the sports talk world, and you are like you 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.920 were in the show with us. You know, for last 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.000 year year and a half, we've been through the coronavirus 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.920 as pandemic. There's no sports going on. People are losing jobs, 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:08.320 they're losing loved ones, they're isolated, um, take me through 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.119 that for you, not only as a professional in the 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.480 media world, but even just as as an individual that 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.000 has an impact on the local community. What have you 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:23.200 done during that time? Well, you know, one, I am alive, right, Like, hey, 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.280 you know, to have an opinion means you're alive. Good 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.320 for you, right, and for a lot of us, for 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.000 six hundred thousand of us, that that's not the case, right, 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.760 So I would say I would literally say things like, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.679 I am alive. I'm grateful, I have a job, I 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.280 am employed. You know, I am responsible for myself and 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.240 my family. I'm gonna make choices that are what's best 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.520 for them, not what anybody else thinks about. I can, 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.359 you know, I can attack every day with opportunity. I 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.800 can read, I can learn, I can you know, mitigate 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.639 my risk to to get COVID. I can tell stories, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.080 um that are similar to what you'll see in in 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.679 the last dance, or I can relate, you know, a 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.360 sports topic to something people are talking about in their 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.880 real life. I will have fun doing it. I will 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.400 make sure I make people laugh doing it. So that's 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.560 how I choose my mindset, That's how I walk into 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.120 any everything from parenting to living, to being a professional. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.240 And once you set a framework, I mean, there's study 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.679 after study that shows our brain believes in the words 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.879 we say out loud, right, and when you envision and 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.560 visualize your success, it usually happens. So I'm I'm a 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.399 big believer in Hey, you know you could when you 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.920 go against von Miller, David, because you're no doubt gonna 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.040 put on the pads this year now that coronavirus as 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.960 you football ready, when you when you're facing von Miller 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.440 on third and nine, you better believe you're gonna block 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.199 his ass, right, what's your choice? And and so I 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.840 just take that to my life often of Hey, I 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.840 could choose to be upset, I could choose to wallow 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.760 and anger or frustration, but that's not productive. What can 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.200 I do? How can I move forward? What way will 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.280 I decide? Here we go? You brought up the last Dad, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.320 So that was something I think most of the sports 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.359 world watched during the summer of last year. If there's 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.119 a guy on that championship team with the Broncos in 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.919 Super Bowl fifty, that you could say, I don't want 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:13.879 to say exactly, but you can kind of put in 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.480 that same picture as a Dennis Robins saying, hey, he'll 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.800 probably leave for a series, go to Vegas, party his 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.040 ass off with some strippers, and then come back and 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.159 do his thing. Who would that have been on that 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:29.240 Bronco team. Thankfully we didn't have a guy like that. 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.000 I will tell you after we won the Super Bowl. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.680 I mean I was in Vegas when Darth Vader came 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.479 from the club at the at the win and had 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.480 a fifteen thousand dollar bottle of champagne and afro Jack 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.240