Speaker 1: Boom. He thought more minutes a week was enough. I
Speaker 1: think again. He's the last remnants of the old republic,
Speaker 1: a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the
Speaker 1: ghetto gutter the same as the rich pill poppers in
Speaker 1: the penthouse. The clearing House of Hot takes break free
Speaker 1: for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts
Speaker 1: right now. It's never a dull moment on the Fifth
Speaker 1: Hour with Ben Maller. But Ben is not in the
Speaker 1: house today. I will be your solo host, David Gascon.
Speaker 1: So that's right. If you did tune in for Big
Speaker 1: Ben Mallory, he will be here shortly, but not right now,
Speaker 1: in place of him. As a former offensive lignment of
Speaker 1: the National Football he actually played ball at Notre Dame
Speaker 1: that got his way to the Denver Broncos, played on
Speaker 1: the great Super Bowl fifty championship team that one of
Speaker 1: the best defenses in all the land. Ryan Harrison were
Speaker 1: in the house. What's up, man? How you doing? David
Speaker 1: good to join you, my friend. Yeah, it's good to
Speaker 1: have you in here. There's a lot of chatter obviously
Speaker 1: with the NFL off season's It's never a dull moment,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to some of your background in
Speaker 1: a few moments, but I have to jump into this
Speaker 1: because you're knee deep in all of it. With the
Speaker 1: National Football League. What's the sentiment out there right now
Speaker 1: with with training camps right around the corner. A lot
Speaker 1: of eyeballs on Drew Lock. But of course there's still
Speaker 1: those rumblings about one Deshaun Watson in Houston, well DeShawn Watson,
Speaker 1: but also Aaron Rodgers. I mean, half of this town
Speaker 1: still believes Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of with them. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how the Packers saga ends, um, with the way
Speaker 1: that everyone's behaved. Now, Aaron's gonna have to fork up
Speaker 1: thirty million if he doesn't play this year, which at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, David, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you can do to get me thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars. Manage you, right, So I think eventually something
Speaker 1: will come of it. But yeah, Drew Lock just did
Speaker 1: not show progression last season, especially um and in a
Speaker 1: big game for his career, the second game against the
Speaker 1: Chiefs last year, through two interceptions that cost him the game,
Speaker 1: and those are the kinds of mistakes that um that
Speaker 1: coaches and fans are tired of seeing. And there's already
Speaker 1: been some of the same. Yeah, it's it's frustrating to
Speaker 1: look at when you have a quarterback in that kind
Speaker 1: of situation. It's not like you're in a spot where
Speaker 1: you have minimal talent around you. This isn't Sam Donald
Speaker 1: in New York with the Jets. This is a guy
Speaker 1: with potential Pro bowlers on the outside and a pretty
Speaker 1: darn good defense, in particular at home. So when you
Speaker 1: look at the situation in Denver right now, Ryan, and
Speaker 1: you're calling the shots there, I mean, obviously you love
Speaker 1: to have a guy like Aaron Rodgers. But if this
Speaker 1: all plays out, and let's just say for argument's sake,
Speaker 1: nothing serious happens to Deshaun Watson, would you more look
Speaker 1: closer towards Aaron Rodgers or would you look immediate and
Speaker 1: down the road with a guy like Deshaun Watson. What
Speaker 1: would you rather have? Well, the Shawn Watson's fascinating from
Speaker 1: a longevity perspective, right even with Aaron Rodgers, you're thinking, listen,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at forty three says hello, but you're thinking
Speaker 1: maybe two to three more years for Aaron Rodgers, But
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, you've got ten to fifteen years, right,
Speaker 1: And that's a different element if you're a team looking
Speaker 1: at it. I don't believe anybody's gonna touch DeShawn Watson
Speaker 1: with what's currently going on. Um and And but at
Speaker 1: the same time, you still have an opportunity next year
Speaker 1: for both quarterbacks. I mean, after this season, the guaranteed
Speaker 1: money for Aaron Rodgers goes away. Um and and next
Speaker 1: year you'll still have an opportunity to play for Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to be a part of the Texans
Speaker 1: this year or next. So, um, those whether you could
Speaker 1: take your shot now is one question depends on you know,
Speaker 1: how do you and your fan base field. I don't
Speaker 1: think any fan base is willing to accept the player
Speaker 1: who has the kind of allegations that the shan has
Speaker 1: at this time. Um and Aaron Rodgers, how does that end?
Speaker 1: And and so in that case, Deshaun has far more
Speaker 1: upside um. But Aaron Rodgers is the man right now
Speaker 1: who hurt your locker room more. You know, just just
Speaker 1: from the stories that I've heard, Uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers has been operating on a different level
Speaker 1: than his teammates for a long time. And I understand
Speaker 1: two as a champion myself. When when you are a champion,
Speaker 1: you have a different dedication to how you know, to
Speaker 1: the details, and you have a zero patience for people
Speaker 1: who don't pay attention to those details. So I understand
Speaker 1: how those things could be mistrewed. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: always tough to bring an older guy into a locker room.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I was a league dad, and when
Speaker 1: you come into the NFL, you have guys who who say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we uh, you know, we want to go
Speaker 1: spend Friday night, Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night out.
Speaker 1: And as a dad, you're in the NFL saying, well,
Speaker 1: hey man, I want to make sure that you know,
Speaker 1: I get nine hours of sleep and my latte is
Speaker 1: ready in the morning. You know, it's a different life.
Speaker 1: So it's always tough to bring older players into a
Speaker 1: locker room and professional sports well, but being a former
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, if you were in that situation with a
Speaker 1: signal color of either Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson's talents,
Speaker 1: who would you be more inclined to block harder for
Speaker 1: I'm not to say that you're gonna be bailing on
Speaker 1: a play, but I would imagine that there's an extra
Speaker 1: sense of urgency when you're blocking for Peyton Manning as
Speaker 1: opposed to somebody else. Well, the urgency comes from the
Speaker 1: the opportunity, right, It doesn't matter, um what what what
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks doing do? You have an opportunity to win
Speaker 1: a championship. And that's what made us so successful Super
Speaker 1: fifties season. Who was the best team that I've ever
Speaker 1: been a part of. We had guys who were ready
Speaker 1: to play, who showing guys who were goofballs, who were
Speaker 1: showing up at six five in the morning, you know.
Speaker 1: And so at that point, you know, Peyton created a
Speaker 1: lot of urgency at the line of scrimmage with his
Speaker 1: dummy calls and his omas um. But you want to win,
Speaker 1: and if you're with the team that wants to win,
Speaker 1: that urgency comes out no matter who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: So going to that team than ryany He mentions the
Speaker 1: greatest team were played on. Leading up to that season,
Speaker 1: was there any thought that you guys can do what
Speaker 1: you did? There was a hud percent belief that we
Speaker 1: would do what we did. You know, Uh, Shannons Sharpe
Speaker 1: came and spoke to us to start the to start
Speaker 1: the season during training camp and he said, Hey, if
Speaker 1: you're not here to win a championship, get the brief
Speaker 1: out of here. And that was pretty much the tone
Speaker 1: that we had from from day two of being together
Speaker 1: in training camp. We knew it was possible. We knew
Speaker 1: that this was probably Peyton's last year. Um, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the team, you know, I I had come
Speaker 1: from the Chiefs to come come back to Broncos. The Broncos,
Speaker 1: A lot of the team had lost in Super Bowl
Speaker 1: forty eight, which saved a lot of money, right, because
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are like, hey, don't buy everybody
Speaker 1: hotel room because if you lose, you're gonna be looking
Speaker 1: at those people saying I got ten grand hotel rooms
Speaker 1: sitting here looking at me at the face. Right. So, Um,
Speaker 1: you had a lot of benefit and experience and a
Speaker 1: ton of willingness. And that's what made us so successful.
Speaker 1: Was that More on the offense, though, was it? The
Speaker 1: defense is and the guys on the defensive side brought
Speaker 1: the wood every single week. So when you have a
Speaker 1: guy like DeMarcus where that puts a little bit more
Speaker 1: pressure on other guys around him to actually perform up
Speaker 1: to his level. Well, DeMarcus Ware also showed us the
Speaker 1: way right how to behave I still drink plant based
Speaker 1: protein shakes because De Marcus Ware told me to, so,
Speaker 1: you know. And he would have dinners and events and
Speaker 1: things that gave guys opportunities to get out of the house,
Speaker 1: but also kept you in the nucleus and in the
Speaker 1: in the world of hey, let's be successful, let's not
Speaker 1: be stupid. All right, let's have some fun, but you're
Speaker 1: asked better be in practice tomorrow morning. And having a
Speaker 1: leader like DeMarcus Ware and the influence he had on
Speaker 1: von Miller and then von Miller's performance that entire season,
Speaker 1: not just that year. You know, Malik Jackson, Danny Trevathan,
Speaker 1: Chris Harris, ju and you'r a keep to leave and
Speaker 1: we had some real players, real players, and it was
Speaker 1: a big difference. No flies on the best secondary ever
Speaker 1: played for Oh, no question, no question at all. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's interesting just the way that the game has changed
Speaker 1: so much, not only from the last five to ten years,
Speaker 1: but from the last twenty or twenty five years. Do
Speaker 1: you think we'll ever get that kind of similarity of
Speaker 1: what we had. I mean, you could go back to
Speaker 1: the earlier Bronco Championship teams. Those are play action, run
Speaker 1: balanced teams. Do you think the game will ever morph
Speaker 1: into something like that again, or do you feel like
Speaker 1: it is going to be three and four and five
Speaker 1: wide personnel with a lot of this read option stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. Not everybody can do with Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is doing. Kansas City Chiefs and I covered their
Speaker 1: their Sunday night game against the Broncos, and I talked
Speaker 1: to some of my former coach and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys are running two plays at the same time,
Speaker 1: and they kind of laughed and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: we haven't been called on it yet. You know, so
Speaker 1: as much as everybody thinks they can do the run
Speaker 1: pass option, not a lot of teams are gonna have
Speaker 1: a called run play and a quarterback where you give
Speaker 1: the green light to and say, hey, if you see
Speaker 1: a matchup you like, let that ball rip. You know,
Speaker 1: by the way, that quarterback has to get it down
Speaker 1: field before that lineman gets on his third step. So
Speaker 1: you're always gonna have play action pass. A lot of
Speaker 1: football is you know, human nature when you when you
Speaker 1: show a linebacker football and you give the right shoulder
Speaker 1: read as a quarterback, and that running back comes over
Speaker 1: and quickly the offensive lineman shows to the backer. He
Speaker 1: has to think run and that's how you create plays.
Speaker 1: So we're always gonna see an evolution and evan flow.
Speaker 1: But the play action passed, the downhill run, the third
Speaker 1: and one, the fourth thing goal, those are gonna be
Speaker 1: staples of every championship team for now and forever. What's
Speaker 1: the longevity look like for a guy like Lamar Jackson. Well,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has the decision to make. He has to
Speaker 1: decide whether he's gonna be the best player he can
Speaker 1: be or if he's gonna spend his time trying to
Speaker 1: be a player that he's not. And and I've talked
Speaker 1: to player, I've talked to players and coaches who are
Speaker 1: on on the Ravens and one of the things that
Speaker 1: last year and they're stretched. Uh. You know when the
Speaker 1: coaches told me Lamar wanted Lamar Will wanted to be
Speaker 1: a passer. He just wanted to be a passer, and
Speaker 1: we lost games because of that, and if you look
Speaker 1: at roster's not really build for it. And so Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson has to make that decision and say, hey, I
Speaker 1: am Lamar Jackson. I can be a great passer, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a Peyton Manning. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be a Tom Brady. Same way Tom Brady is not
Speaker 1: trying to be Lamar Jackson, right, And so if he
Speaker 1: can just work within his skill set and maximize his potential,
Speaker 1: the nuances on play action passes when he decides to run,
Speaker 1: getting out of bounds, I mean, these are things that
Speaker 1: are really going to allow him to win a championship
Speaker 1: if he can commit to being different, and that's what
Speaker 1: every champion is. Be sure to catch live editions of
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Speaker 1: If you had a quarterback for the next five years,
Speaker 1: would you rather have Russell Wilson or Justin Herbert? Russell Wilson, Uh,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's got an unbelievable, arm I mean, where sweatpants
Speaker 1: when he throws the deep ball. It's unbelievable. But Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has won, and so he knows that, you know,
Speaker 1: a seemingly insignificant game in week seven is the difference
Speaker 1: between home field advantage and not. Right. He also knows
Speaker 1: what matters and what doesn't matter when you're going to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, David, I had over two
Speaker 1: ticket requests the week that we the week before we
Speaker 1: went left for the Super Bowl. None of those people
Speaker 1: were my friends, right, And so you have to do
Speaker 1: a lot of success, as you know, is understanding, recognizing distractions,
Speaker 1: and having total belief in yourself. And that's something that
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has perfected over his career. Can you take
Speaker 1: me through that then? To Ryan? I mean, because you
Speaker 1: played ball at the collegiate level in Notre Dame and
Speaker 1: then you go to Denver and you bounce around the league.
Speaker 1: What has that been like for you when when you
Speaker 1: went from high school to college and started receiving a
Speaker 1: ton of accolades and then you have the spotlight on
Speaker 1: you and then you get to the show, you get
Speaker 1: to the National Football League, how did you actually process that,
Speaker 1: and did you have anyone help you along the way,
Speaker 1: like hold your hand and say, hey, Ryan, this is
Speaker 1: how you act like a professional? Eat, drink, sleep, the
Speaker 1: whole smash. Well, a lot of it started with I
Speaker 1: never played football for you, right. I played football because
Speaker 1: it gave me an opportunity to maximize my skill set.
Speaker 1: I mean, David, I've been taking people's lunch money since
Speaker 1: high school. Has come faster than that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let's go um. And so the big
Speaker 1: thing for me is I never did it for anybody else,
Speaker 1: and it never did it for external validation. But to
Speaker 1: your point, there were dozens of veterans who who showed
Speaker 1: me the ropes. You know. Um, I think about Wade Smith.
Speaker 1: When I went to the Texas, they used to call
Speaker 1: me the wandering because I didn't know where I was going,
Speaker 1: and he literally showed me with the bathroom of the
Speaker 1: meetings rooms where you know, you need people like that.
Speaker 1: I also had a mental performance coach all ten years
Speaker 1: I was in the NFL, and to really understand, um,
Speaker 1: the process behind success. You know, you make the game
Speaker 1: winning catch, the game winning block, the game winning kick
Speaker 1: the same way you make any block, kick or pass
Speaker 1: or cats right, if you're catching the ball, you look
Speaker 1: the ball into your hands and you squeeze it when
Speaker 1: it hits your fingers. I mean, when you focus on
Speaker 1: the process, you reduce anxiety over So I add people
Speaker 1: that would talk to me in that athletic realm, people
Speaker 1: that you know taught me that not every coach is
Speaker 1: a good coach. And the year we won Super A fifty,
Speaker 1: we had a mental performance coach on on our staff
Speaker 1: that really helped, you know, helped us identify external versus
Speaker 1: internal validation. Am I playing football to make David happy?
Speaker 1: Am I playing football because I want to have fun?
Speaker 1: To rip someone's face off? Because now it really doesn't
Speaker 1: matter whether David wants tickets or if David wants to
Speaker 1: come to the after party. Those are things that will
Speaker 1: figure themselves out. That's not why I'm here. And that's
Speaker 1: a very different player to play against. And so I
Speaker 1: absolutely needed great coaches that the great coaches that I
Speaker 1: did have, the veterans I have, And I also needed
Speaker 1: to make sure that I remembered why I love the
Speaker 1: football and had nothing to do with other people's opinions.
Speaker 1: On that note, because you had that kind of help
Speaker 1: and you had that kind of support, did other players
Speaker 1: seek you out for that kind of inspiration, that kind
Speaker 1: of comfort, and that kind of I guess advice along
Speaker 1: the way, of course, you know. I mean one of
Speaker 1: the things you know that I wrote about in my
Speaker 1: in my book Mindset for Mastery, is that when you
Speaker 1: choose your mindset, when you decide that you're there for
Speaker 1: yourself and not other people, you're going to scare the
Speaker 1: crap out of people. Right, There's a lot of players
Speaker 1: in the NFL are getting paid to lose. They didn't
Speaker 1: win a championship, they didn't go to the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: they still got paid. What do you do? And so
Speaker 1: you start to notice the people who don't get affected. Hey,
Speaker 1: if a coach is ripping my ass, Hey if I
Speaker 1: did something wrong, great, But I'm not always I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna take everything that coach is saying as as improvement. Right,
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some personal attacks. There might be some
Speaker 1: some attacks on you know, your physical capabilities. That has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the fact that I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out here the next play correct my mistake and help
Speaker 1: us win a game. And when you start being around
Speaker 1: people who are not thrown off by someone's anger or
Speaker 1: by someone's angs. Do you gravitate towards those people. You
Speaker 1: gravitate towards people who move when things go wrong. And so,
Speaker 1: whether it was in the game that we were losing,
Speaker 1: after a loss, making sure you still are having fun
Speaker 1: and appreciating the ride, I was very lucky to be
Speaker 1: a leader in the in the last three offensive line
Speaker 1: rooms that I was in. It's the old thing, right,
Speaker 1: showing me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser,
Speaker 1: exactly right, you know. But but you also have to
Speaker 1: you also have to understand. When I was at the
Speaker 1: Steelers that we won the Super Bowl, I believe we
Speaker 1: lost four straight games at one point, and everybody's head
Speaker 1: was down, like, hey, listen, you're gonna lose some games.
Speaker 1: That cannot stop you from believing that you're gonna win
Speaker 1: a championship. And you gotta have fun, you gotta smile,
Speaker 1: you gotta stay loose and UH and those things make
Speaker 1: a difference. You. You brought the book, and I want
Speaker 1: to talk about that at at some decent length real quick.
Speaker 1: What inspired you to you to actually write it? Mindset
Speaker 1: for Mastery UH to available on Amazon and you know,
Speaker 1: when I look at my tenure NFL career, the difference
Speaker 1: between people who are successful and who are not are
Speaker 1: people who choose their mindset. And when you win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, everything you believe about yourself comes true for
Speaker 1: other people, but you have to believe that first. So
Speaker 1: from getting knocked out of my cleats in college to
Speaker 1: you know, learning the lessons that I learned in the NFL,
Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with people because, David, we
Speaker 1: talk about failure less than we talk about sex, and
Speaker 1: I want to tell you the failure is the most
Speaker 1: common thread to every success story. Here's how I failed,
Speaker 1: Here's how I built my way out of it. Each
Speaker 1: of us choose our mindset every day, choose yours with
Speaker 1: the words I am, I can, I will. When you've
Speaker 1: had those situations of doubt, what do you do? I
Speaker 1: mean best practices? Because the rounity is we've you know,
Speaker 1: in the sports talk world, and you are like you
Speaker 1: were in the show with us. You know, for last
Speaker 1: year year and a half, we've been through the coronavirus
Speaker 1: as pandemic. There's no sports going on. People are losing jobs,
Speaker 1: they're losing loved ones, they're isolated, um, take me through
Speaker 1: that for you, not only as a professional in the
Speaker 1: media world, but even just as as an individual that
Speaker 1: has an impact on the local community. What have you
Speaker 1: done during that time? Well, you know, one, I am alive, right, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, to have an opinion means you're alive. Good
Speaker 1: for you, right, and for a lot of us, for
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand of us, that that's not the case, right,
Speaker 1: So I would say I would literally say things like,
Speaker 1: I am alive. I'm grateful, I have a job, I
Speaker 1: am employed. You know, I am responsible for myself and
Speaker 1: my family. I'm gonna make choices that are what's best
Speaker 1: for them, not what anybody else thinks about. I can,
Speaker 1: you know, I can attack every day with opportunity. I
Speaker 1: can read, I can learn, I can you know, mitigate
Speaker 1: my risk to to get COVID. I can tell stories,
Speaker 1: um that are similar to what you'll see in in
Speaker 1: the last dance, or I can relate, you know, a
Speaker 1: sports topic to something people are talking about in their
Speaker 1: real life. I will have fun doing it. I will
Speaker 1: make sure I make people laugh doing it. So that's
Speaker 1: how I choose my mindset, That's how I walk into
Speaker 1: any everything from parenting to living, to being a professional.
Speaker 1: And once you set a framework, I mean, there's study
Speaker 1: after study that shows our brain believes in the words
Speaker 1: we say out loud, right, and when you envision and
Speaker 1: visualize your success, it usually happens. So I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer in Hey, you know you could when you
Speaker 1: go against von Miller, David, because you're no doubt gonna
Speaker 1: put on the pads this year now that coronavirus as
Speaker 1: you football ready, when you when you're facing von Miller
Speaker 1: on third and nine, you better believe you're gonna block
Speaker 1: his ass, right, what's your choice? And and so I
Speaker 1: just take that to my life often of Hey, I
Speaker 1: could choose to be upset, I could choose to wallow
Speaker 1: and anger or frustration, but that's not productive. What can
Speaker 1: I do? How can I move forward? What way will
Speaker 1: I decide? Here we go? You brought up the last Dad,
Speaker 1: So that was something I think most of the sports
Speaker 1: world watched during the summer of last year. If there's
Speaker 1: a guy on that championship team with the Broncos in
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty, that you could say, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say exactly, but you can kind of put in
Speaker 1: that same picture as a Dennis Robins saying, hey, he'll
Speaker 1: probably leave for a series, go to Vegas, party his
Speaker 1: ass off with some strippers, and then come back and
Speaker 1: do his thing. Who would that have been on that
Speaker 1: Bronco team. Thankfully we didn't have a guy like that.
Speaker 1: I will tell you after we won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean I was in Vegas when Darth Vader came
Speaker 1: from the club at the at the win and had
Speaker 1: a fifteen thousand dollar bottle of champagne and afro Jack
Speaker 1: started playing on the DJ boot and that was crazy, right, Um,
Speaker 1: But we didn't have guys like that. And I mean
Speaker 1: we had guys that got it in, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but it was time to play. It was time to play.
Speaker 1: And and also you know, um yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: part of the interesting thing about the Last Dance and
Speaker 1: that senior you're talking about. You know, Coach Jackson was
Speaker 1: talking to Michael and robmin Of like, hey, Robin needs
Speaker 1: a break. Coach Kobayak was not gonna do that. You know,
Speaker 1: Coach Kobyak is not gonna go to Peyton and say, hey, Peyton,
Speaker 1: you know Ryan Harris needs a break. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: to Vegas for a couple of days of practice, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see him soon. Like that's not happening
Speaker 1: on that team that we were on. But I mean
Speaker 1: there's a Dennis Rodman on every team and every family,
Speaker 1: isn't there. Yeah, no doubt about it. Ryan, It's been
Speaker 1: a lot of fun having you on UM. Since you
Speaker 1: are in the media scope right now, what do you
Speaker 1: actually do? I mean you're on radio, but do you
Speaker 1: do public speaking or you're outside of that. Are you
Speaker 1: on anything else with the with the Broncos or what
Speaker 1: do you do? What? Yeah, I got a sports talk
Speaker 1: show weekdays here in Denver, and uh I do all
Speaker 1: the Nor Dame football radio broadcast. I do some West
Speaker 1: with One radio broadcasts, and uh I might do some
Speaker 1: might do some TV work for Telemundo this year on
Speaker 1: their NFL package because uh I speak into Spanish. So
Speaker 1: it's all fun, man, and more than anything, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a husband, I'm a father, and uh and being
Speaker 1: financially literate and doing the right things with my money
Speaker 1: really set me up to do the things I enjoy
Speaker 1: now in retirement. Speaking of retirement, and many people might
Speaker 1: not know this, but I had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a hint on it. I don't know what your playing
Speaker 1: weight was exactly. I don't know if your weight is now.
Speaker 1: But being six five and amongst all those other things,
Speaker 1: you're also a surfer. So what the hell is it
Speaker 1: like you getting out a board right now? Especially when
Speaker 1: you come down to southern California. Oh? Man, I love it.
Speaker 1: I was just in Huntington Beach. Man. Uh, I need
Speaker 1: a nine foot board first of all. Okay, so be
Speaker 1: honest here, I need one of those storm breakers or
Speaker 1: whatever they're called. Um, but I love it, man. I
Speaker 1: love getting out in the water. I love hitting the wave,
Speaker 1: and if anybody serves, they know it's. Uh it's a
Speaker 1: feeling unlike any other, and it's something that I think
Speaker 1: about every day. I was gonna say, were you watching
Speaker 1: some old school point break, like looking at some Johnny
Speaker 1: Utah instructional videos to get up on the board or what?
Speaker 1: I still remember watched point Break? I don't think I
Speaker 1: wanted kidding movie. Yeah, but you know, one of the
Speaker 1: off seasons in the NFL, I went to Maui and uh,
Speaker 1: I got on, I got surfed my first wave, and
Speaker 1: it just felt like God's hand was throwing me towards
Speaker 1: the shore and saying have fun. It was just an
Speaker 1: incredible feeling. And then later on dropping into my first wave,
Speaker 1: it was just such a such an awesome experience, and
Speaker 1: uh something, I just I literally, David, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was in l a surfing and I surfed through
Speaker 1: lunch down in uh down in um uh southern California,
Speaker 1: Orange County over there. So I just I'm crazy about it.
Speaker 1: I love it, and I love the and I love
Speaker 1: the looks too. And people see one a black surfer,
Speaker 1: a huge black surfer. You know, you get some of
Speaker 1: those what the hell is this guy doing here? But uh,
Speaker 1: I love the looks, but I love the waves even better.
Speaker 1: So does that mean that you have the bug that
Speaker 1: you'll start traveling, maybe to Australia or New Zealand or
Speaker 1: somewhere in Europe to try to catch some waves one day?
Speaker 1: The minute, the minute these kids are at college. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here, David. Let's go man, let's let's
Speaker 1: serve the world. Brother, Why the hell not? Well, listen,
Speaker 1: if if you do do that, and when you do
Speaker 1: do that, I need you at least promised me this,
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's it's culture. When you when you
Speaker 1: grew up in the nineties. Is that you just need
Speaker 1: to pop in or find an old school VHS tape
Speaker 1: and just look Patrick Swayzy Kiano reeves Gary Busey point Break,
Speaker 1: not the remixed version of it, the original version of
Speaker 1: point Break. I can promise you ride you won't be disappointed,
Speaker 1: and you might be feeling on nostalgic too, because uh,
Speaker 1: this is back of the day when Gary Busey was.
Speaker 1: It was actually pretty decent, and of course Patrick Swayzy
Speaker 1: was was alive and well yeah before you started ripping
Speaker 1: out and yourkin systems and stuff like that. Why you
Speaker 1: gotta threatened me with a good time, David. I'll check
Speaker 1: it out for sure. And uh hey, and anybody who's
Speaker 1: listening who has a surf yet get yourself a lesson.
Speaker 1: Check it out, no doubt about it. Ryan, One last
Speaker 1: time before we let you go, a mindset of Mastery
Speaker 1: ore again. Can everyone find that for you? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can check it out on Amazon dot com Mindset for Mastery,
Speaker 1: or visit my website Ryan here at sixty dot com.
Speaker 1: And and if I can be of service or resource,
Speaker 1: please reach out for sure. For sure, Ryan appreciate the
Speaker 1: time today. Have a good weekend, man, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll catch up against some time before the NFL regular
Speaker 1: season gets underway. Thanks David serves up. Be sure to
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